>Because it respect humanity's freewillThen it would make heaven an enabler of murder, rape and cruelty.>Because it doesn't answer to usThen the divine is indifferent toward our suffering and therefore irrelevant to our salvation.>Because it intentionally created suffering as a featureThen the divine is essentially a malicious demiurge and gnostics are right.You can't have it any other way, the whole heaven concept leave suspicious gaps when you look at how the world actually work.
>>43098450This is why im agnostic, heaven is essentially just another mythology for self-comfort, I think whatever exist beyond death may be outside our frame of reference.
>>43098450this is Heaven, Anon.we are in Heaven, and Heaven run by Blind Snakes.will Humanity help Heaven?
>>43098450Because they are impotents or equally evilThis is truth nuke.
>>43098450You forgot the most plausible option:>because humanity doesn't deserve heaven's compassionStrip you of the victimhood, our species is a tumor with nothing to blame but ourselves
>>43098450>YOU'RE AN ENABLER!!!!>So?Based honestly. You wouldn't stop to help some bum up, why should they?
>DireitoInterferência intersubjetiva.There's a cost to interference. It's not possible for heaven to micromanage humanity. Thus, it is preferable to not miraculously prevent all crimes, but have other humans punish them later. The goal would be a self-regulating system.
>>43098450This, again, seems to suppose some epicurean ideal of pleasure = the only and highest good. What if suffering is a regrettable necessity of character? What if free will to choose evil is the only way to give meaning to choosing good? What are you seeking salvation from, what in heaven will you not view responsibility as suffering and evil? Every heaven you reach will be hell, and so you have been mercifully placed here, where you complain to have been misplaced. Repeat: God is in His Heaven, and all is right with the world.
>>43098450You will burn in hell for denying Christ. Nothing in your OP is profound or interesting. Gnosticism id a fast track to death and hell
>>43098450Same reason you don't feed wild animals. This isn't complicated. You're over thinking it when it's simple.
>>43098839>don't feed wild animalsbut do destroy their habitats and exploit them.fuck that, i feed animals. that they get an easy moment in their lives when everything around them is being coming a parking lot.
>>43098838Actual gnosticism is not denial of christ, retard
>>43099016You will go to Hell and have Satan put a pitchfork in your ass, retard
>>43099418This is precisely why you deserve your suffering and everything bad in this life and next, faggot
Transcend.Trance end.
>>43098450Why won't earth help everyone in hell? Same reason. It's another realm of existence. They barely know we exist and couldn't influence our world much even if they tried.
How is a realm separate from ours supposed to help us? Will you be angry at god because you couldn't steal the better life from another timeline? We are in containment for a reason. People let their demons run their mind. Learn to overcome that and you'll be happy. Until then you are just a repeater for the demiurge.
>>43098450you are looking at god as a personified entity. the bible tells you explicitly to not do that. "allah" derives from "everything"heaven or god is the entirety of reality as a whole, unfiltered by human consciousnessthats why you are not supposed to picture godyou literally cantno amount of conceptualizing and attribuition is ever going to paint an accurate picture of the world we live init simply iswe are experiencing itwe wouldnt be what we are without free willit is up to us to turn this experience into a good oneevery major established religion's purpose is hijacked and designed to turn you into an obedient droneclearest example is the persecution of original christians after the establishment of the roman catholic state churchits all make you keep worshipping money what actually saves you is feeling againi recommend sativa and moonshine
>>43099719I angry at god that i am forced to be part of this meaningless nightmare, i wish i could just kys
>>43098535>conviniently ignoring demons fucking around
>>43098450nerds still finding new word arrangements for "if god real why bad thing happen :( " because their own view and attitude towards life sucks
>>43098450interesting that you choose heaven specifically here anon and not just God.honestly , in part this is why I don't agree with your poin to view and have to asume thier is a problem with the premises.because what exactly can you even do in that situation , is a mindset were anything great is defined and secretly being in part of being evil.how can you even live like that anon , and on a more abstract note , if I think your belive system is evil , I can't accept it , because your belive system would never allow itself to be evil in that way.
>>43100769>Then the divine is essentially a malicious demiurge and gnostics are right.this is just moving the problem one step away , why doesn't the source or the super devine interbween,
We are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively
There is no devine or haven. There is a demiurge. Christ did not exist, it’s a jewish myth to manipulate goy cattle. Hope it helps.
>>43099418Lmao. You are just making a joke but you just made my night. Mr pitchforks knows what I mean.
>>43098450So you want this to happen?
>>43098450I KILLED EVERY GOD AND GODDESS AND LEFT MYSELF AS THE TRUE GODDESS OF THE WORLD AND I LEFT THE WORLD TO BURN IN THE SINS OF YOU AND YOUR PEOPLE I WILL LET THE SINS OF THE WORLD BURY YOU JUST LIKE YOUR GODS AND GODDESSES...AND THE DRAGON SAID WHO IS LIKE THE BEAST AND THE BEAST POINTED AT YOU....ATHENA - YOD HEH VAV HEH
>>43098450Yeah higher beings are kinda useless faggots aren’t they.
>>43100897Ehhh. Christ is king.
>>43098450I don’t know. Maybe heaven isn’t real. But I talk to spirits, and they say go to church. So there.
>>43098450Because the babies will cry about how unfair it is and how we're all equal and we need to be eternal androgynous slaves to some faggy hivemind because they think humans are disgusting.Something like that.I was just thinking maybe God should flush those pieces of shit down and let us be with our wives in peace again.
>>43100826Ehm, yes. What kind of question is this.
>>43100826>>43101234is this really OP?
>>43100813what even is your religion at that point anon though.you kind of sound like some glowie demorsation atempt.
>>43101245My religion is the complete opposite of the New World Order.We all beat the shit out of them and leave them in dungeons and big titty nymphos walk around in paradise and you can just fuck them.There are no rules, there doesn't have to be because men can self-regulate themselves and a Metatron will prevent hackers from interfering with others game. So I can just be alone with my things and the cucks can cry about it.
>>43101234Get in the pod goy
>>43101895Bruh
>>43098450Free will more important.
>>43098488NDE's are real though. I believe being agnostic is also for self-comfort, and unfortunately gnostics are right. Earth is overseen by evil ayys and because of some obscure rule where they can't act directly, the guess-who's are their pawns, they've tasked them with preparing humanity for a more blatant enslavement once it's been decided by said obscure law that they have the rights to Earth. The elite believe that humanity needs a master, and that masters benevolence doesn't matter to them, what matters to them is that someone who's done it first is guiding us. Without all the white lies of "we are foolish humans, we just can't understand our masters divine wishes", there is the powerlessness to stop them, and the wish that they're at least in the top 100 rankings for benevolence. (They're not)
Black and white reasoning wouldn't workHeaven only intervene as divine intervention
Demons (Archons) rule over the Seven Heavens, there is no help in them, the want you trapped here to feed off of your negative energy (Loosh).The only way outta here is through Cosmic Wisdom (Gnosis).
>>43098450>heaven helps out humanity>humanity takes credit>heaven helps out humanity too much>it gets soft and pathetic>humanity then blames god for not getting free shit
>>43103459Retard, retard, retard
