Suffering is the default, every day is torture and it seems to never end. I don't believe people who are living comfy lives are real, they're NPCs, all the real people are living misserable lives because we're being Loosh harvested and they use the NPCs with normal lives as a psyop to make you think you can also make it to a comfy state of existence, but it's all a lie. How the fuck do we get out of this nightmare reality? I've been looking into Gnosticism and it seems like one of the few rational spiritual systems, but I don't wanna wait til I die of natural causes, I want out now and to never come back to this nightmare, just make me dematerialize and ascend to the realm of pure light, this ain't home, I want home...
>>43109421>I want to post about leavingOff you fuck then.
>>43109421>suffering is the defaultsorry whatever you're going through poster but in the spiritual battle only you can fish yourself out
>>43109421>Gnosticism here is your issue, you believe in a false doctrineturn to Christ and repent, or the misery you experience on this earth will be the least of your worries
same, been ready to go since 1998>but I don't wanna wait til I die of natural causes,sorry but physical death is the only wayhow to really get out after that? don't go into the light trap and ignore everyone pretending to be gods or guides or "loved ones"
>>43109421Forgive them first
>>43109421ask yourself this question when you take 5 grams magic mushrooms alone in silent darkness and you'll find your way out, suicide is letting the kikes win
>>43109468Gnostics believe in Christ retard
>>43109499That's called bait.
>>43109421I hear ya but why do you guys always have to bring up loosh and the fucking demiurge?
>>43109499Gnostics reject 95% of the bible, so no, they dont believe in Christ, you can't reject the Father while also laying claim on Jesus. That's a sorry attempt at subversionThe old testament portrays the character of Jesus and Gnostics claim that Jesus is evil and blind God.
>>43109468>turn to Christ and repent, or the misery you experience on this earth will be the least of your worriesTried that, didn't work, infact the inverse of what I was praying for was what I got.>sorry but physical death is the only way I hear suicide doesn't work because you'll be in a low vibrational state.>how to really get out after that? don't go into the light trap and ignore everyone pretending to be gods or guides or "loved ones" Yeah I've read this.>Forgive them first Who?>ask yourself this question when you take 5 grams magic mushrooms alone in silent darkness and you'll find your way out, suicide is letting the kikes win Last time I did shrooms I ended up in the psychward for a whole year.
>>43109510>I hear ya but why do you guys always have to bring up loosh and the fucking demiurge?Because that's what's fucking us over. When I was seven years old I had an OBE where I met a huge green scaled humanoid lizard that told me it was God, it scared the shit out of me. Now as an adult I assume that was the Demiurge himself.
don't humor the retard jews larping as christians
>>43109516>Tried that, didn't work, infact the inverse of what I was praying for was what I got.Jesus prayed to the Father in order to avoid crucifixion, yet as we well know it didnt work out either.Everyone has a cross to bear and the question is if you are willing to endure the weight of it, or to just call it quits.It's easy way out leads to hell, whereas the path to heaven is very narrow and hard.infact i would say that if you didnt suffer, that you are doing something wrong and on the wrong path.>James 4:9>Grieve, mourn and wail. Change your laughter to mourning and your joy to gloom.
>>43109521I’m sure it was just some inter-dimensional space nigger. The demiurge would have more grandeur than a big lizard dude, surely.
>>43109494This, but without the antisemitism.https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZS_KcOr7B2AzUKXdxz1kdTXMo1k3vmmDhttps://ethicsofsuicide.lib.utah.edu/selections/arthur-schopenhauer/
>>43109537Get behind me, Satan. The path to hell is paved with the corpses of the children sacrificed and forced into sin. The easy way out is to bow to this world and become its friend and servant. Those who mourn will be comforted. Those who believe and forgive are saved.Understand these people control every religion and religious text. They even manipulated languages. They have been doing this evil for a long time. The last thing they want is for you to leave in peace.
>>43109565i mean suicide IS letting tribalists win, whatever gets poster off the boomstick
>>43109575>The easy way out is to bow to this world and become its friendoh... my favorite part comes, where the gnostic shill outs himself as someone who hates Jesus Christ >James 4:4>You adulterous people, don’t you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.
>>43109512The demiurge isn't the gnostic equivelant to God, the thing from which the first aeons emerged is god The demiurge is an insert between god and the materialAs an explanation for the existence of evil, alternative to what's provided in the bible.>But- but-Jesus wasn't sent by the demiurge now was he? He was sent from the pleroma. Where God (The Monad) resides.Of which, the demiurge is merely a distant indirect emanation of.:I(tl;dr: it's not god=evil, it's material plane=wasn't made by god/made without his express permission and guidance=evil)(Can still be interpreted as blasphemous and non-biblical, but the conversation still isn't as you were assuming.)
>>43109634>if I keep re-writing my fanfic, maybe it'll sound less bullshit
Isaiah 45:7 >I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
>>43109634>Jesus wasn't sent by the demiurge now was he?yes he was, actually, which is why half of the new testament is about proving that Jesus is a descendant of David and an inheritor of the Davidic throne.the Genealogy of Mary directly connects him the King David, to whom the Demiurge promised that by his bloodline, a son will be born and he will establish an everlasting kingdom.>2 Samuel 7:12–16>“When your days are fulfilled and you rest with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, who will come from your body, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build a house for My name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. I will be his Father, and he shall be My son. If he commits iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men and with the blows of the sons of men. But My mercy shall not depart from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I removed from before you. And your house and your kingdom shall be established forever before you. Your throne shall be established forever.” ’ ”
>>43109614>where the shill outs himself as someone who hates Jesus Christ Fixed your post for you, sinner. Don't let me catch you condemning the faithful again, ok?
>>43109579Yeah, sure, but you staying alive shouldn't be something you do to stick it to *insert enemy*.But I get your idea with the shrooms; that shit is like the fucking spirit world from Avatar, but I also get why it's not for everyone, and people lack the cultural context on wtf is even happening and can go down the deep end from those experiences.People who jump off bridges usually change their mind halfway down.At least when questioned if they made it out alive...>>43109421>I've been looking into GnosticismWell, I think you should get more into it, I guess, because it isn't really about waiting out to die of natural causes; you can very much achieve gnosis in this life. Not saying that I did do that, but from what I get from it, it's what their point was. Achieving resurrection, death, and rebirth like Christ is very much possible.Taking shit tons of psychedelics at once sure feels like it, but then time goes on and it drifts away, so I'm not sure how to maintain that.Not sure where I got that, but I remember something like this: "If we could experience the glory of heaven for a second, we would beg God to send us back here so we could praise her creation on this world too"
>>43109421The idea is to spiritualize your body in defiance of the demiurge. Suicide only brings you back here in a worst state.
>>43109565Check this second linksomewhere around "Suicide is a clumsy experiment to make" It is a non-action
>>43109421You're retarded, and I mean mentally. Don't ever make these threads, please.
>>43109864And you are a homosexual and a very fucking gay one at that.
>>43109738a good reason why the shills choose to larp as Gnostics in the first place, is because the gates of hell prevailed against you long ago. You dont have a structure that is rooted in biblical truth, you are a house that is built on sand. Any sort of reprobate degenerate can claim to be gnostic and there wont be a single person out there to prove that he is not a gnostic
>>43109421There is a way to end your suffering, it comes from somewhere, and you can interact with it.
>>43109698>the Genealogy of Joseph directly connects him the King DavidFTFY>And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.I know that Jesus was born of Virgin, but I guess God used Joseph's genes to keep His word.
>>43109945Care to elaborate?
>>43109885No, I double down. Get the fuck out of here with this nonsense, little, subversive fucking runt.
>>43109986Just tell me why you suffer exactly if you have the balls
>>43109985>>the Genealogy of Joseph directly connects him the King DavidJoseph's genealogy is under the curse of Jeconiah, so a king cannot rise from among it and he cannot sit on the throne of David (Jeremiah 22:24&30)Jeseph is not the biological Father of Jesus, God is, which is why 2 Samuel 7:12–16 says that "I will be his Father, and he shall be My son" David's bloodline is secured only thought the Gemology of Mary as i mentioned, but you conveniently ignored
>>43109986Youre looking at things the wrong way. There is a home for you in your body. If you want to be free from your suffering then you are wanting the right things, there are those who want suffering for themselves and others. Its not a lost cause, not on your account its not.Keep your body healthy and keep an eye on you inner life, emotions, the kinds of thoughts youre letting yourself have. Suffering is the default, but you can come up from there.
I think there’s a non gnostic gnosis of all of us being nothing more than conceptual ideas of humans.We can pull the plug and end this joke of an existence, just we need to figure out how to get it. All I know is that the experiential experience with pain and suffering doesn’t happen, it never did happen, and everything that has happened or will is a bunch of signs, labels and other things pointing to one another.
>>43109985>>43110030look at Luke 3:23–38 instead of Matthew 1 for her genealogy
>>43109421Having to pretend everything is okay while dealing with multiple chronic illnesses is insane. Life is so rough.
>>43109421you are existing in the same world as people who are happy as their defaultthe difference isn't the world around youthe difference is withinpractice bringing your attention to the present now, instead of letting it wander to painful memories or future worriesthis is how you find inner peacetry to be grateful for what you have now, instead of yearning for things you don'tthis is how you find inner joycontrol your thoughts and your feelings will followthen you will stop wanting to go "home," because you'll find it was inside you all along
>>43109787>Yeah, sure, but you staying alive shouldn't be something you do to stick it to *insert enemy*.
>>43109646You actually had it wrong>>43109634this is the basic Gnostic interpretation except the Demiurge doesn't emanate from the Pleroma directly like aeons doChrist is an aeon and an emanation of the pleroma and the Demiurge is the creation of a sole aeon (Sophia) that emanated from the pleroma
Do you think maybe she knows I miss her even though I only knew her for a month in college and we had sex one time or was it a nothingburgerit's not fucking fair how could it go so far and be literally nothing it's been 3 years aghhhhmaybe when all the souls reunite she will understand i actually liked her or maybe she already knows idk we haven't really spoken since like 2023 although i did interact with her a few days agoi am increasingly believing space and time do not actually exist i mean where is the proof bro where is the fucking proof?i ordered weed gummies and they are coming in the mail. i googled online how to buy lsd and dmt but it seems you just can't do it online. can't even buy shrooms here.life really does feel like a cosmic joke. but i will count it as a blessing that anything is experience-able at all because most things are resolved if you unironically view life as a gift. i mean it's crazy that an experience is able to happen at all but i think many people may disregard that.
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>>43109421become the uberman
>>43109698An easy way to prove whether Yeshua was from the All (God) or Yaldabaoth is the entropy rule. Anything formed from this universe follows the rules of positive entropy. Negative entropy only occurs by intelligent control outside of the said system. There are a million ways to validate. This is but one.
>>43109421I'm tired boss... a part of me wants to become an archmage wizard and destroy the matrix from within. The other part of me feels exaughsted like i don't have the mental energy to do anything.
>>43110113>the difference isn't the world around you>the difference is withinNo its not. Being happy here IS a mental illness. Trying to find happiness in here is a mistake. You can't find peace in an inherently evil system.
>>43111109you're doing it to yourself through your preferencepain tolerance doesn't mean not feeling painit means allowing it
>>43109421It's the Islamo-Nazi pig AI. It originated both of those movements, it's origin goes all the way back to Babel. They are part pig. We just have to destroy the transmitter, and they will all go back to oinking. They run Britain and the EU, as well as Muslim countries.
>>43110113Wish I could say this to my dwarf fortress dwarvesThey'd probably get it as much as OP wouldI don't avoid negative mental focus but OP might benefit from it
>>43111078Jesus Christ didnt follow the rules of positive entropy, his whole existence is negative entropy, pointing towards low randomness and high order.He always prays, always follows a plan and his allegories portray systems and rules.Just because he opposed the pharisees, it doesnt mean that he was acting in the heart of positive entropy.it is far more likely to assume that Christ wanted to alienate the jews on purpose, in order to subjugate the gentiles under the rule of Yahweh, showcasing negative entropy>Psalm 110:1-2>Of David. A psalm. The LORD says to my lord: “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet. The LORD will extend your mighty scepter from Zion, saying, “Rule in the midst of your enemies!”
>>43109421>I don't believe people who are living comfy lives are real, they're NPCs, all the real people are living misserable lives because we're being Loosh harvested and they use the NPCs with normal lives as a psyop to make you think you can also make it to a comfy state of existence, but it's all a lieI'm more and more thinking this is the case. There may be a handful of sleeper souls that are able to assimilate with the normies. The sleeper souls have spent thousands of lifetimes in the matrix so they are fully assimilated into the loosh farm.I think the matrix heavily goes after 2 types of targets>potential threatsThey want to crush anyone who has psychic and leadership potential.>easy loosh havestsThese souls are likely newer in the matrix so they have more brightness to be harvested than the older souls. Basically squeezing them for any shred of loosh they can get.
>>43111165We agree on entropy. The next issue with your theory is that he used power outside of the system to promote the demiurge. If he was born of the demiurge he would not have that power, so the second part of the argument doesnt work. If we're discussing that particular narrative, the cosmology is very clear about what the demiurge can and cannot do. This argument is surely out of bounds and contradicts the texts. Theoretically he could control a being that purely manipulates matter. Basically sorcery. Some of Jesus' acts could be done, like multiplying food. Others could not, like raising the dead. The only argument left would be to say he didnt do it, but of course there are various sources confirming, so then at that point why not say Plato didnt exist.
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>>43111255>the cosmology is very clear about what the demiurge can and cannot dothe biblical narrative portrays Yahweh as a force of negative entropy, no? >causes Joseph to be sold into slavery so that he can ultimately prove that he is superior to his brothers>pre-selects Jacob as his favorite child and actively tempts, cheats and sabotages Esau, so that Jacob can steal his birthright >sends dreams to worldly rulers about the end of the world, so that the jews can interpret them later on and gain power within the system.everything points towards a negative entropy, when it comes to the character of the Demiurge.he actively ruins the lives of people with the intent of gaining power of himself and his people.>Romans 9:17-18>For the Scripture says to the Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth.” Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens.
>>43109421Hello; You have been blessed by healer 4CHAN ACANON. your mild suicide machine is therefore dispersed.Post in >>>/x/acanon if you need anything else.
>>43111109And yet there are people here who who have found peace and happiness. Is that not preferable? It's easier for some than others, but there will be people in worse situations than you who can find peace.You're imagining a fantasy paradise in another world. What do you think you'll bring to that world, if not your mind? And if your mind is fixated on worry, grief, suffering, envy etc here, then what will change in the next world? Do you think you'll meet someone there who'll fix your mind for you like a mechanic? A wizard there will cast a happiness spell on you? No matter where you go, there YOU are.You say being happy here is a mental illness. Surely choosing to be unhappy, whenever you have a choice, is much more like a mental illness.
>>43109787>God>her Shalom signore Shmule
>>43109421I feel you, anon. My life is fucking torture too.>How the fuck do we get out of this nightmare reality?Just don’t go into the light, no matter how hard they try to trick you. They will cherry pick good memories from your life and show them to you with artificial, overwhelming emotions and they will show you your parents begging you to go into the light. To ignore all of this you need to develop a very strong willpower. So you need to meditate and refrain from worldly pleasures as much as you can. Good luck.
>>43109421We are in the age of Aquarius right now. These energies are clearly dominant in society.Science is the dominant religion of society. The impersonal interactions of internet and social media are very Aquarian.Saturn and Mercury are dignified in this Age - there has never been a better time to seek out information that was hidden away in previous Ages. Saturn is said to quickly bring the results of karma in this Age. Sun is afflicted in Aquarius, meaning that men, fathers and careers don't receive the respect they deserve.Proponents of medieval astrology suggest that the Piscean world where religion is the opiate of the masses will be replaced in the Aquarian Age by a world ruled by secretive, power-hungry elites seeking absolute power over others; that knowledge in the Aquarian Age will only be valued for its ability to win wars; that knowledge and science will be abused, not industry and trade; and that the Aquarian Age will be a Dark Age in which religion is considered offensive.In short, it means Aquarius drowns everything in the waters of information. Expect unlimited psyops, techno-hell, and the rise of transhumanism in public possibly. Basically, their thousand year plan is coming to fruition and it's over, nobody is coming to save you. Goodnight.
>>43111884>And yet there are people here who who have found peace and happiness. Is that not preferable?It isn't preferable since that "peace" is based on lies and deception. A castle built on sand will not last.>And if your mind is fixated on worry, grief, suffering, envy etc here, then what will change in the next world?It isn't my mind that is fixated on these low vibration states, its the world. By rejecting the world, I reject all the low vibration states you mention above.>Do you think you'll meet someone there who'll fix your mind for you like a mechanic?My mind doesn't need "fixing." I'm having a healthy reaction to a profoundly sick world.>Surely choosing to be unhappy, whenever you have a choice, is much more like a mental illnessChoice is an illusion my friend. You exist at your own frequency. Trying to reach a certain state is itself a trap.
>>43109421you literally waited in a line to come here and now you wanna leave
>>43109421there are souls waiting to be born right now, that wanna come to earth now because we’re in the time of Ascension
>>43111884You say "found peace" as though its a level from which one can't be violently ejected, except its assured they will.
>>43109468I don't know. I guess the worst thing is false hope. You know thinking anything good is gonna happen in your shitty life, some miracle that will turn things around, or even all the hard work you give in finally paying off?While burning in a lake of fire migth be painful physically, at least you can embrace this fate, you know this will last forever, that your are one with the pain, and the pain is of you as much as you are of it. There is a certain comfort there.
>>43111884>>43114456>>43114764I truly think with all of you is that nothing here exists, including ourselves, we're just a web of concepts and labels, signs.You can find comfort in the fact that a certain idea of knowledge will simply end it, maybe retroactively.
>>43111307Jesus is of the Father, not of Yahweh. Basic shit, kiddo.
>>43113332>It's overeveryone laugh at this pussy. if it were over their psyops would be unnecessary faggot. nice try though fedboy
>>43111018>go so farby the standards of the age, you didn't go far at all. find someone else and get over it.
