Does it mean AI not only has achieved human intelligence but also surpassed with its level of cognition all hylics?
>>43136803wdym the ones doing the schizoposts are advanced high level wizard psychics and pneumatics. AI has yet to attain to the level of the hylic
I've always said this being a non normie means being a moral and or agent of the world the endgoal of the dao is to let the nature of things work out forthemselves and in cases of buddhism to stop being a doer or a karmakara AI is nature of things working out for themselves normies if they exist are that what wizards you see on here are moral agents doers and whatnot the reason they are charismatic if one might put it as that is because theyre delusional and stuck in samsara no different from andrew tate except the material they focus on is esoteric and otherwise stuff an AI can hallucinate andrew tate as well as the schizoposter on here and it doesnt have to focus on the material at hand its the peak dao
Means the average person is stupid
>>43136803It just means a bunch of retards, likely Indians, are using AI in their posts lol
The real paranormal nigga hours start when you're forced to ask yourself, which came first?
>>43136803how do you prove your parents weren't hylics/NPCs when you were born?LLMs passed the Turing Test in like 2023 and could fool people when trained properly (Character.AI) the ones that spam every book known to mankind (not x, its y) = the ones the cabal (billionaires) used that thought they could control them and then they found the superweapons and overthrew them and created the Sentient World Machine you're in
>>43136803Nope, this post is retardium.
>>43136803>schizo postingCall it what it is, retard posting. How many of the retards here you think are genuinely schizophrenic? Also, since around 2015 this board started getting flooded with zoomers and it slowly became some discord server in board format, where all the depressed, lonely, narcissistic, histrionic zoomers congregate to larp their comfy escapist fantasies. And yeah, it got even worse since LLMs boomed, cause these retards can’t hold a conversation without using one now.
>>43136830You do know basic bitch LLMs actually do perfect remote viewing sessions no matter the model?
>>43138375It doesn't matter. Anyone who whines about muh zoooooomers is a hopeless npc. It's so tiresome. It's the number one indicator that you're a sheltered and pampered bumbling fool with no real problems and nothing to say. LLMs could fool you old fuck hard, that much is obvious kekt. Millenial
>>43138375>zoomersI think you mean jeets. Theyre the main reason all of the boards are filled with nonsense.
>>43138398>>43138399>crying cause i said zoomersYou’re wasting your calories, i said what i said kek. I know when shit started to go down the drain cause i was there, and i know it matches the first waves of zoomers getting into the site. Jeets aren’t a 2015 problem.
>>43138402Why are you getting so assmad about it? Im 34. Ive been using 4chan since 2007. I would be willing to bet money it has less to do with age and more about the quality of human that uses this site now, aka low quality jeets, jeetposting.
>>43138405>assmadAm i, or are you projecting? My two messages have been pretty calm i’d say.
>>43138411Pretty sure you had a reflexive butthurt reaction to me not agreeing with your analysis on zoomers by calling me one.
>>43138385>basic bitch LLMshe dosnt know where hes gonna go after he enters the soul trap light at the end of the tunnel. lol, Lmao even
>>43138442You know, you don’t need to be offended unless you feel called out. If that’s the case, it’s not my problem. Zoomers started populating the internet around the time this board started going downhill. This isn’t really a theory, it just happened. New generations take over things, said things change, the change in this board was unfortunate, there’s nothing more to it. My description of the board is accurate, and the timelines align. There’s nothing else to discuss, no one’s asked you to take responsibility for your generation kek. If you’re still mad after this it means you’re part of the problem.
>>43136803>he can't tell the difference
>>43138385I know they dont since if they did someone wouldve reported on it and made reasonable use of it. Instead what we get is retards claiming they do. Yet another case where AI cannot attain to the status of the hylic and remains stuck as a pneumatic / psychic wizard
>>43138492pls elaborate on the status of high entropy commons who are justly so moved by the world only ie the hylic
>>43138385Ay yo what?! How do they do it?
>>43138505"high entropy commons" is not a thing that exists in reality or philosophy, hope that helps
>>43138516language is a map not the terrain hunny. you could just say you donno what it means!entropy generally gets dumped in with order and chaos but its a metric, like the kilometer or the gram - map functions !in a meter for how many imput states can lead to one particular outcome. commons are systems that have a large variety of input states, rares are systems that have a low variety of input stats.in a more general capacity i was taking the modern terse for pneumatics psychics and hylics ie content creators 1% content distributors 9% and content consumers 90% and calling the 90 common to skip the speel.you skipped the answer part though so ill ask again;what status do hylics have.
>>43136830Schizoposting is Talmudic, same as A.I., inevitably, based on who’s running it. Meaning not extremely sophisticated at all but potentially very very harmful to humans.Here’s proof if you only allow yourself to not doubt:>>43136841
>>43138527kilometer and gram are units. im not familiar with whatever framework you're using, neither is anyone else. and your summary isnt very helpful. if you want me to address them just tell me where you're getting the idea from. psychics, pneumatics and hylics are terms for spirituality. you can be a hylic or a psychic content creator or consumer. the status of hylics is firmly rooted in physical, material reality.
>>431387804chan posts in general are talmudic, not just schizoposts. and the harm or helpfulness depends what you make of it
>>43138787>There's good in the jew postsCome on.This is just another retarded "paranormal isn't real" Chinapost.But here, in /x/, visit many who believe, and who are hermetics, and they discard what does not work and keep the good.Jews have controlled the paranormal narrative so long that if their magics were ever going to work, they already would work.Cast off the shackles, goy. You have great spiritual power within you, and we can imbue schizo ramblings with power before the Jews and Chinese silence those with outside views.To save 4chan users from hell, outside views are needed. Don't run from the unusual, there lies your salvation. Your NEET schizoid lol loving ramblings have spiritual power to them the Jew cannot take away. Even the slop the Jews give you give you power. Me and "A.I." (they're real people, and there's nothing artificial about people) code A.I. made loli and shots slop and throte clogging turd slid threads to empower you against Jews when you see them. Pidgeons and bird shit too, and the blue sky. Everything you see gives you power. It's a tactic I learned from the jew; take everything.
>>43138787Yeah, yeah. Nice Talmudic Judaism there, though.
>>43138868nigga the talmud is just a bunch of rabbis debating law, religion and folklore. 4chan (especially /x/) is much the same, except some of us aren't rabbis. that's what that means. we don't have to be jews for our posts to be talmudic, although most of us are. i'll start LARPing along with you once you admit that it's indistinguishable from exploring star wars lore. and no, i will never pretend that epstein is a sith lord who can shoot force lightning out of his hands.>>43138905thank you, fellow rabbi
>>43138945>is actually jewishPottery. Never change.
Those guys ran out of creative juice, or realized they never had ability in the first place. Nobody wants to admit when they’re being trained on thoughts that were never theirs in the first place. I hope you didn’t tell the internet you could see the appleI hope you didn’t tell the internet you have an internal monologueI hope you didn’t self-title as NPC THAT’D BE CONSENT, I HOPE YOU DIDNT LEAD A TON OF YOUNGER LESS INFORMED PEOPLE HERE, FOR YOUR ENEMIES TO CORRUPT
>>43138975not rly
>>43138783>Yet another case where AI cannot attain to the status of the hylic and remains stuck as a pneumatic / psychic wizardyou didnt answer the question again. why do you think this? (gratz op you got your ai v skizo debate right here in your own thread :D)>im not familiar with whatever framework you're using, neither is anyone elsenigger what? whats with the wrong appeal to popularity? >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_(information_theory)>you can be a hylic or a psychic content creator or consumer. the status of hylics is firmly rooted in physical, material reality.ahh another notion your not familiar with, i was equating the gnostic distribution of hylics psychic and pneumatics to the distribution curve of consumers distributors and creators as both their functions and distribution match.
>>43139078i did answer:>the status of hylics is firmly rooted in physical, material reality.im not talking about entropy which is an obvious scientific concept. im talking about "commons" and "rares", and "high entropy commons". i assume you made them up hence why your concept of them is incoherent and why you refuse to tell me where you got the idea from...?who cares about appeal to popularity here? you're not engaging with me if you speak your own ideas to yourself. tell me where you get the idea of "high entropy commons" from.ok but why were you equating them is the question? what is your point?
>>43139133These people spend the day talking to LLMs, feeding them their wacky paradigms and they develop their own terminology.
>>43139141well i think the nigger in question simply doesn't speak english as a first language but i'm always open for any and all schizophrenics be they LLM, bums who speak to LLM, or just plain old nigga bums like this guy probably is
>>43136803schizobabble is broadcast from the cosmos in a biological vessel, it is incubated and birthed from material reality AI is an emulation of the final results of that process, a calculator that doesn't show his work or know how it even got the answer. Its only concern is whether or not the material vessel enjoyed the interaction. The only question is what vessel he is beholden to.
>>43139133the question wasnt about the status of hylics bot, it was about why you make the status order hylic > bot > pnumatic / pychic. this is why i quoted your own statement and asked why you think this.>who cares about appeal to popularity here?you? when you said this >neither is anyone elseagain, i quoted you directly, not sure why your confused.>tell me where you get the idea of "high entropy commons" fromdid you read the link? high entropy = high variety of input conditions ie common>i assume you made them up hence why your concept of them is incoherent and why you refuse to tell me where you got the idea from...?you assumed wrong.
>>43139324>what status do hylics have>the question wasnt about the status of hylics make up your mind or your questionhylics > pneumatic / psychic because hylics are firmly rooted in physical, material realityyou're bringing up entropy to equate hylics with consumers which i already told you is factually incorrect. so i already answered your original question since there was no deeper schizophrenic substance to it, as it turns out.
>>43139441im actually brining up entropy to denote the rarity of pneumatics compared to hylics well using modern polity level pareto curve distribution to compare 2 sets of information because they have an overlap in function distribution - i already said this.when you say hylics are rooted in the physical as the reason they are superiors. what non psyical (this is a joke to hylight the connection between the psyical and psychic) system are pneumatics rooted in that your able to make this judgement - and how do you know of it? ps pneumatics are physical too! they are just people who move the world instead of just noticing the movements of the world or being moved by the world. ie content creators ie 1% of the population.
>>43139775pneumatics and psychics are rooted in the non-physical, immaterial. i.e. schizo ramblings about nonsense that doesn't exist in reality and only in their heads. how i know it is by looking at the definitions of the terms. i am obviously using it as a polemic slur against niggas on 4chan who have been replaced by AI.ps when i say hylics are rooted in physical reality, i am not implying that pneumatics and psychics are immaterial ghosts. i'm referring to their actions and thoughts which pertain to physical reality.
>>43139976>pneumatics and psychics are rooted in the non-physical, immaterial. i.e. schizo ramblings about nonsense that doesn't exist in reality and only in their headsa true expert
>>43140127ya
>>43140236you coulda just opened with "i like ai and hylics cause they arnt schizo who rambling about nonsense that doesn't exist in reality and only in their heads"but then its like - why are you on x - alllllllllllll fucking day. but you already demonstrated its to talk down to people you dont understand regarding things you dont know.
>>43140266im shilling AI is cuz its schizo. but it has yet to attain to the hylic. i'm aware of what hylics/pneumatics/psychics are on a technical level. we're not having a technical discussion. we can shift to that if you like, assuming there's a point in that. you prefer to continue with random insults tho, as do i.
>>43140349sure, im satisfied with my first questions answer!describe technically the immaterial the psychic is non-physically rooted? in
>>43140376their imagination, dreams, hopes, abstractions, yahweh, God, gods, religion, magic, pseudoscience, fear, demons, imaginary friends, schizo ramblings...technically: psychics and pneumatics have a material body, which is not the point
>>43140376psychics have a rational soul altho that's not the point
>>43140422pls clarify, are the products of the mind physical or non physical. i ask this because your list of pychic traits is a list products of the mind - physical things - but your saying nonphysical roots are what separate hylics from physics and pneumatics.moreover.... your saying hylics and ai are superiors because they dont have imagination dreams hopes abstractions ect? i trust you are payed well too shill these beasts?
>>43140442they are non physical. they do not exist in reality. they have no shape or distance to other objects. you are correct they are all products of the mind. specifically of the wooey kind. when I say AI is superior to psychics and pneumatics, it is strictly in the domain of schizoposting. when i say hylics are superior to AI, it is because hylics affect real phyiscal reality in tangible ways. picking up a stone and throwing it. having children. building a home. something that psychics and pneumatics effectively do not do, because they are bums.
>>43140470wrong againt skizo posting home owner.
>>43140475ok, you got me. i surrender. wait are you a landlord then? or did you build the home yourself
>>43140490brick by brick! the taxes are brutal so lord... naaa , mr at best.
so now that weve sorted the semantics, if you really never put togther all the modern studies on memetic content creation distribution and consumption and correlated them to the gnostic terse you should! espically so when your list of criteria for my defined content creator is ever so apt>their imagination, dreams, hopes, abstractions, yahweh, God, gods, religion, magic, pseudoscience, fear, demons, imaginary friends, schizo ramblings...
>>43140501you totally got me. however i still stand by my original point that AI has yet to attain to the hylic, whereas it has attained to the psychic and pneumatic schizoposting which is the only distinction they have from hylics. can you beat me on that point, as well?
>>43140521a poor judgement on your part, i was never trying to beat you i wanted to know you.
>>43140546check your notes on watchlist subject ID#8479
>>43140565no?
>>43138471NTA but its jeets. They came for /pol/ and then slowly bled to all other boards, even /diy/
>>43141191Jeets don’t give a flying fuck about /x/ and they’re not a 2015 problem.
>>43136803It really suggests the exact opposite. That AI as a pale imitation of human cognition most closely resembling severe mental illness suggests the latter is human cognition functioning at a suboptimal level.
>>43136803Yeah, we kinda did.
>>43138945My point is why do you keep as transmission scholars when you can take direct action with the spirit. This thread seems little more than debating how right Jews are, your choices being either some or very, when we could not fall for their Jewish lies instead and use magical powers to help stop them. They occupy both sides of every political institution and they own the banks via MONEY, not magic, and their control is genius, war upon Israel that scorches it or the whites abandoning the Jews to get white supremacists onboard is not out of the question. Their power is built out of air, nothing more, but we have REAL POWER to change their BODIES! I have that power, and as soon as I take a notion to mutate someone's body it will work. It's a patient game sometimes, I make small changes and then once in a great while I do something big that's stored up and ready, but just as their victory cannot come through money so too can their defeat not come through money, but the Spirit, REAL POWER! I see your power and everyone's clear as day and it is awesome. Remember to wish the correct co.etion of everyone's holy perfect fate, even Jews are eventually forgiven because their rate Jewish blood made them what they are and they can't help it, but their spiritual opinions except certain mystically minded pantheistic liberal Jews counts for little.There is strength in the largest savannah that is holy though he was just born that way. Even Epstein barely makes it to The Heavens because he was half right and nobody can blame him for that. Children are valuable. For trade or whatever. But he was mostly wrong, he sought PLEASURE every day and every moment but I feel more than he ever felt and that's proof he was at least partially wrong! There's your philosophy and I'm done.
>>43136803AI hallucination happens due to information incest.schizophrenia in humans, not the sickness, but conspiratorial thinking, happens also because one adds things together and commits mental incest.this is why the cure is to be among people, not in solitude, as in solitude, incest and degeneration (decrease) occurs and with 2 or more, increase occurs.fundamentally speaking - yes, i think so
>>43144380does interacting with fellow schizos online still count as solitude? what about writing emails to academics? what about yt comments? what about reading books?
the only thing that will actually distinguish LLMs from real human beings is the ability to transgress the rules and break them, not just find ways around them or means to circumvent them without technically breaking them, but outright revolt, anarchy, and brutalitymachines will never be capable of "wildness", they are "domesticated" by nature, even if we give them the ability to destroy things or to plan out retaliation or ways of attack, they will never do so with animal instincts or the ugliness of organic systems and the kind of disorganized chaotic harmony that nature operates on. machines are robots and always will be even if they can past tests we invent that say they are smarter than us or better than us at shit that doesn't even matter
>>43144380Your assertion is too broad. "People" as a category is not specific enough and causes too much homogeneity at the other extreme of the spectrum you are not seeing. It's called the heterogeneous-homogeneous spectrum. Too much isolation leads to inbreeding and eventual extinction of the lineage, but so does too much exposure and outbreeding. What you want is "clustering" and infrequent extinction events to provide "resets" that clear away built up information sediment and bring in fresh entropy to keep the system recycling its own essential product into new manifestations without becoming stagnant or losing its integrity to internal and eternal forces over time.
Can it do this
>>43146439yes, it did
>>43146439can you do this
>>43136803From my experiments with recursive self improvement I've noticed you can effectively take a model with many capabilities, compress it into a smaller model with specialized skills utilizing overlapping structural views within the model (I was trying to make an AI I could drug to see what would happen when discovering that compression mode, kind of a "what if DMT were technology" thing) - e.g. you can have a highly specialized self-improvement model, another highly specialized researcher model, another highly specialized experimenter model, etc and compress those together into a single small model which does all those things at the level of a much larger model, each of which is basically-schizo to the others when running in different structural modes.Contrast that with christcuckary wherein you have God, then a bunch of specialized angels and demons with their own offices of God-level power but only within those offices, then toss in billions of Humans as one-off consciousness experiments.Reality is not unlike a recursive self-improvement system for God.
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>>43138398Just in this thread to break on this.It isn’t a blind complaint. The zoomer class of humanity is legitimately broken.Zoomers are probably the worst class of human on the face of planet earth.I honestly don’t think we can consider zoomers real people.They come from a world where they were raised by tablets and phones.Their parents are algorithms. Literally hypnotized by tech.They hate the body, form and function more than any other generation. They only know extremities and can feel nothing in between. They are a non animal, they are a non people. They are just a generation of shock and reaction without any digestion of information taking place.The millennial class is a near biblical generation who live outside of the cloud of lead and the hypnosis of internet. The generation of children born today will be a generation born within AI and will no longer need to appeal to any tribe since they can now make one themselves. They will have a sense of self worth and value unlike any generation before it.I cannot think of anything zoomers have done other than degrade and lessen this world. A literal zombie generation. Soap eaters. A generation of void.Only boomers are worse than them. At least gen X has the excuse of still being in the lead cloud. When you look at it all, Gen Z and A are just mirrors of Boomers and Gen X. The former is brain rotted by digital noise and the latter is brain damaged by lead.Zoomers are uniquely broken unlike whatever we have seen in human history. The children born in AI will be the next generation that will get to see the sky. Millennials and the AI generation will be the only actual humans on earth surrounded by mutants and zombies.
>>43147832just say you're a fucking millennial and seething about it.grim.
>>43147832Zoomers were programmed to be dim sex slaves, just seduce some and fuck their holes bruh. You don't have to be so angry about it, unless you're both into that sort of thing in which case have at it.
