If NDEs were proven by science to be 100% real experiences of the afterlife, so we knew with 100% certainty that:1. There is an afterlife.2. Everyone goes there unconditionally and immediately after death, even Adolf Hitler, even mass murderers, even serial killers, etc.3. There is no punishment for anything we do here.4. It is quadrillions upon quadrillions of times better than Earth in every way.5. It is eternal, so we can stay there as long as we want, or choose to reincarnate whenever we want, into any kind of life we want.What would be the political and societal implications of this? Would there be a wave of suicides? Would it make people more or less complacent with political structures they disagreed with here on Earth? Would there be more or less protests if no one was afraid of death anymore, and in fact they longed badly for it?Of course not all would accept the proof even if it existed, like religious people etc who still would believe their pointless religious dogma. But what about the rest?
>>43153901>What would be the political and societal implications of this?That liars are telling the truth
>>43153901>awakening to an afterlife makes people suicidal It’s usually the opposite Study near death experience after reactions. They often describe it like an afterglow from psychedelics where they feel so much happier for a while. Not everyone reacts the same though so I imagine there might be some who think along your lines and kill themselves.
thought I was the only one turns out I was everyone
If there were no repercussions for things we do here people would probably start raping each other and doing all kinds of vile hedonistic shit. Mass suicides would pop off too especially women offing themselves and children to avoid the rapening that’s about to happen. Humanity might go extinct.
>>43153901>Would there be a wave of suicides?Why not? There's no punishment and its "quadrillions upon quadrillions of times better than Earth in every way".Just send everyone to the afterlife.
>>43153901>What would be the political and societal implications of this? Would still be used as a manipulation tool by the elites. Continuing to warp the truth to instill fear. Emphasizing the fear of death and the unknown by the masses is what gives them their power.>Would there be a wave of suicides? Suicide has always been a strongly bad thing to do based off NDE experiences, hasn't it? 100% proof of anything by science has never really mattered much though.
>>43153901>What would be the political and societal implications of this?epstein files changed nothing, finding no iraq WMDs changed nothing, "covid" being a hoax changed nothing, and verifying the "afterlife" wouldn't change shit toothe eternal normie never changes
>>43153901>There is no punishment for anything we do here.There doesn't seem to be punishment in the "you're burning in hell" sense, but people note that your options for subsequent reincarnations will be structured to balance out your experience. E.g you were violent in one life, causing you to experience violence in the next.
>>43154546There's also appears to be a "birds of a feather flock together" thing going on, so bad souls of lower vibration will segregate and be among themselves, living in their own "hell".
>>43154546No that's not it at all. You can be Adolf Hitler or a mass murderer or a serial killer a quadrillion lifetimes in a row if you want. With no punishment or ever being forced to be a victim of a mass shooting or any karma bullshit like that.Think of Earth like an immersive GTA game. That's how everyone in heaven views us. They don't care what we do here any more than we care about what our friends do in a GTA playthrough when we sit next to them in a couch.
>>43155997there is no logical reason why souls would choose to incarnate in shit lives instead of luxurious ones. most everyone gets a shit one.
>>43154064Cool post glowbot
Nde fren here x3.1. Drowned in 1991; CPR after pulled from bottom of pool.2. Fell off a barn in 2024; shattered spine, crushed lungs, TBI. Resuscitated and lung cleared of blood manually by EMTs.3. Died in hospital 3 days later from blood loss after multiple emergency surgeries; refilled and restarted.Each time there was nothing. No other realm. No heaven/hell. Just utter and complete vacancy.
>>43153901>Would there be a wave of suicides?No. It is 100% proven by science that being healthy and fit is way better then being morbidly obese, yet there are still obese people. Scientific proof doesn't remove any of the physical obstacles of death at all. Many would still be afraid they'd fuck something up and be stuck here in a worser state or are just simply afraid of the pain. And no matter what the science says how can dying be good if it feels so shit? And even then how could you 'prove' that its better. You still have tards that think grabbing their bootstraps and working for stuff is way better then a free paradise because um it just is okay. What I mean is that you can't prove what 'experience' is better as its all subjective, making it easy to simply delude oneself into thinking that your proven paradise isn't actually better because of some silly made up reason, all done simply as a way of justifying and supplementing the fear of trying and failing.And whatever proof found would 100% be suppressed and smeared above all else. The waters muddied with "it didn't work for me" and "my grandma said she was in hell!" and all sorts of other bad things. Why? Because even IF it was 100% proven, people would want the pain free medical assisted way out, and who would make that medicine? A society would be needed to gather and create all the products needed for the easy way out and no one is going to want to work if they too knew of said way out. So they'd just suppress and deny the whole thing and only a select few would know and the rest would serve them not knowing. Though I'd love some big worldwide suicide party of joy and love and freedom I just doubt such a thing would happen.
>>43153901>even Adolf Hitler????
>>43156031>there is no logical reason why souls would choose to incarnate in shit lives instead of luxurious ones.Yes there is, you have to see it from the eternal perspective. You have been in heaven endless googolplexes of eons. You have had all orgies you could ever desire with 10000/10-looking angel supermodels in infinitely luxurious palaces and castles. You think someone who has that as their eternal default cares about luxury in an ultrabrief little incarnation of ~80 years? No, they want a challenge, an adventure, a unique experience.When you sit down to play a video game for 80 minutes, do you only play the King Has An Orgy With Supermodels-simulator, or do you actually want to play Amnesia: The Dark Descent, or GTA 5? Or play as Sauron or Darth Vader? It's a similar thing. Life is an immersive video game to our higher selves, not an extention of our endless heavenly hedonism.>>43156535See my reply here to the other dude and pic related, it's a similar idea.
>>43156644there's no challenge and excitment in being sexless clinically depressed wanting to die every second chud. there's no excitment in feeling nauseating fear that makes your mind go numb. was it fun for unit 731 victims?
>>43156099Maybe you're just a blockhead lol.
It's a wishful thinking. Heavenly realms do exist, but your base state of mind has to be heavenly if you want to be reborn there. You have to be ethical, do not harm anyone in any way whatsoever, help others and most importantly, have goodwill towards EVERYONE, including yourself. alsoIt's not eternal.
>>43156644>see it from the eternal perspectivewhich your non-eternal human dumb ass doesn't have
>>43156721this is the actual reality of things, yes, good post.
>>43156721Hindustani gobbledypoop
>>43156060People are evil and selfish. Reveal that there are zero real consequences and paradise no matter what and people will show their real colors.
>>43153901>What would be the political and societal implications of this?Well it would again mean that God is malevolent.So nothing changes.
>>43156644>No, they want a challenge, an adventure, a unique experience.You are the one that cant properly think of the infinite.There are INFINITE positive experiences, and thus NEVER a need for a negative experience to have "a unique adventure."
Think of reality like a game of Counter Strike. There's no punishment aside from losing. You just wait and then start again, racing as fast you can to kill the enemy and die. This is the karmic loop, an addictive intermittent reinforcement multiplayer first person shooter.
>>43157182>Its a game!There is absolutely zero reason to forget its a game though. In fact most would try harder if they knew it was just a game. And it makes no sense to me that every person on this earth is actually a super intense try hard of said game that wants to play on super hard survival with extra pain and misery mode. If it were a truly just a silly game then you'd know it was as an intrinsic undeniable intuitive truth.
>>43153901Thought experiment: Say or think "I'm never coming back here after I die", post results.
>>43156644If it's true and in the afterlife they just don't care about our suffering down here, then I'll just have to make myself into a virus that will refuse to leave my soul up there, and make sure others get to know.
>>43157279I say or think that literally every day.
>>43155997>>43156644Do you not see how monstrous and dystopian this shit is? Just, for real, take an honest look at these pictures you generated and tell me it isn't disturbing as fuck. Like some sort of "we happy few" shit.Anyway, a mind that conceived and created such a sick "game" is a sick mind to begin with. Definitely not the fluffy snuggly way you're trying to portray it as for some reason.
>>43153901Do you have evidence we go to a better place?
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>>43153901This reeks of reptilian hands. This reads like a positive encouragent to suicide.Where are you getting these NDE reports? There's a reason why most religions consider suicide one of the worst sins. Stop this bait.
>>43153901>If NDEs were proven by science to be 100% real experiencesThey weren't though. So the rest of this post means nothing.
>>43156099this was mine also. the big reveal was literally nothing, utter void.
>>43157033people really need to stop treating positive and negative as synonyms for good and bad, that shit is so illiterate and hard to read>>43158218>There's a reason why most religions consider suicide one of the worst sins.And what reason would that be, retard? It couldn't be because dead people can't pay their tithes and be battle slaves in the holy wars, could it?
>>43158715>What reason would that be retard?It's called basic human suvival instincts. You don't even have to be religious to know that suicide is considered a bad thing because our bodies are willing to go great lengths to survive no matter what, it is also called common sense which you clearly don't have.Fuck off, reptile.
>>43158802Your body is not you. It's a tool.If you unironically equal yourSELF to your meat sack, you are the definition of an npc golem.
>>43158802gibberish..."basics hoomahn survuval instainct" doesn't extend from one person to another though, you don't feel an instinct to stop another person from committing suicide..you may make it a personal rule to not kill yourself but you never think "everyone should share my fear of dying" and make it a law commanding them,it's fucking ridiculous to suggest that's why the church fat cats call suicide a "sin" when they just don't want to lose paying customersgod you're a retard, kill yourself and stop polluting this board with your trash
>>43158218Explain why its a sin
>>43156644Who the fuck would want to be born as a sub 100 IQ Indian.
>>43158610Well ppl do experience the "void," which is essentially a completely empty space, or more like, the absence of space and time altogether. All they perceive is their own awareness.
>>43156721“Bro just be good or whatever haha”
Interesting how the people in this thread glorify suicide but don't do it themselves.Wonder why.
>>43159968Because it'll hurt and I'm a wuss
>>43157830We do it ourselves though. To all the animals that we enslave and slaughter for food. Their suffering doesn't even enter in our consciousness. The angels believe the same for us.
>>43157830>>43156699>how dare my shitty life not be evidence that I am the shittiest most put upon person in the world!I'm starting to think the people most disturbed by this afterlife possibility are the most egocentric.
