buddha denies the existence of a soul (every human being has an inmortal soul) and his philosophy is about destruction of the self. there are some vaishnava traditions that says that buddha was an avatar of vishnu to test hindu people if they are truly faithful to god, so those who followed buddha failed the test. i genuinely believe that version, or at least i believe he was a demon of some sorts. i would dare to say that he is by far the worse religious figure of mankind and that he is burning in hell alongside communist. jainism should have take the toll though asia
there is no god. cope. buddha was iranian and his philosophy was an attack on zoroastrian school of thought with its dualism and belief in creator and soul.
>>43159917>buddha was iranianthats the real cope, your god is a streetshitter, my god is the god of mankind
>>43159900>buddha denies the existence of a soul (every human being has an inmortal soul) and his philosophy is about destruction of the self.He said you can't point out a self or soul, because the self can't point at itself. What is a soul? Have you ever seen one? Touched one? Spoken to one? Felt one? How do you know that is an immortal soul? If you're a Christian you have the habit of calling everything a demon. So if you manage to interact with a spirit on the other side, how do you know you're not deceived by a demon instead of taking to grandma?
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>>43159960>have you ever seen one?i have seen myself in the mirror>how do you know that is an immortal soul?there are some things human beings know by fact and that are not learned but knowledge of it exist because it has been granted it to us in the moment of conception>If you're a Christian you have the habit of calling everything a demonnot really, just buddha and every communist leader>So if you manage to interact with a spirit on the other side, how do you know you're not deceived by a demon instead of taking to grandma?i do no comune with spirits but i do pray for them>>43159963schizoposting
>>43159974>i have seen myself in the mirrorThat's a physical body.
>>43159978my soul (and everybody's soul really) resides in the world of forms
>>43159974Jesus was a communist before it was called that. He'd be a communist if he came back, but fortunately for your fragile beliefs he won't. Because he died
>>43160146>Jesus would be the political ideology that is entirely materialistic, anti-religious, and says that man's consciousness is defined entirely by his social status, because he said give to the poor or somethingyou are a fucking retard.
>>43160164Capitalism is the most materialistic ideology there is. Like what relevance does that have at all.
>>43160174You're the one that brought up communism, and now capitalism. I didn't say communism was the most materialistic, I said it entirely is. Do you have anything of actual substance to say?
>>43160146>jesus was a communist before it was called that. He'd be a communist if he came back, but fortunately for your fragile beliefs he won't. Because he diedi bet the guy who had prophetic calls and preached a whole new religion actually was an atheist. you are a stupid kike with no soul so i care little about what you say. at much i can give you that he didn't believe in private property, and he did care for the poor, but he wouldn't part of a system that supress religiosity and systemizes the human condition as communism does
>>43160180You specifically called out communist leaders as demonic, so no, I did not bring up communism, you did. Man maybe you're even dumber than I first thought
>>43160190that was me, you stupid dumb nigger faggot
>>43160189>systemizes the human condition as communism doesI assume you mean systematizes, but what do you actually mean by this? What's the opposite of systematizing the human condition? Rejecting it on an individual basis? Becoming king rat in the barrel and eating the others?
>>43160195You both sound equally retarded, how am I supposed to tell you apart
>>43160010If your soul is in the world of Forms, and your body is in the world of Becoming, then where are You? By you, I mean your "I". Is it above the Forms, in the world of the Monad and the Indefinite Dyad? Or above that, in The One itself?
>>43159900>>43159917>saar my god is white man not jeet!>nooooo bloody ben chod my not-god is white man your god is jeet!Jeet religions arguing who is more poopy
>>43160207Yea man, you're very intelligent for saying that Jesus who literally proclaimed himself to be God and established his Church would be in favor of the materialistic and anti-religious political ideology. Go on, enlighten everyone on how you square that, show everyone how brilliant you are.
>>43160222To expand on this, I think you conceive of yourself as a sort of Russian nesting doll of being, where The One is nested in your "I", your "I" is nested inside your soul, your soul is nested inside a body, and your body is nested inside the Cosmos.
>>43160222my "I" is my soul. soul and self are the same thing. my self/soul is in the world of forms but it is expressed in the world of senses (the physical world) though my body. the real self (the soul) overlaps the physical body (the vessel) and is superior to it. in the same way and eye cannot look within its on head, i cannot see myself in the world of forms, though i reside therebasically my real self is in the world of forms but is expressed though a physical body in the sensitive world
>>43160262Just because marx was opposed to the organized religion and religious institutions that came after Jesus doesn't mean he opposes any of the social views Jesus claimed to have. Communism and socialism are by far the nearest political ideologies we have to those social views
>>43160201communism tries to control every aspect of the human life so capitalism cannot arise on its society
>>43160282Ah, yes, the vague 'social views'. So because Jesus believes everyone is equal (in the eyes of the Lord, mind you) and to be charitable, that means he's a communist supporter? That's your argument? Just ignore every other important detail about the two very different and incompatible worldviews? And you think this makes you intelligent and not moronic?
>>43160304I said that those ideologies are nearest to how Jesus actually taught people to be to one another. They're certainly far more similar than capitalism could claim to be. Or maybe you have a better example?
>>43160315>I said that those ideologies are nearest to how Jesus actually taught people to be to one anotherNo, you said "Jesus WAS a communist before it was called that." And "He'd be a communist if he came back".You did not start with communism was nearest, you said Jesus WAS and WOULD BE a communist. You're backpedaling.I am not a capitalist, so I don't know why you keep bringing that up when no one is talking about capitalism. You're doing the typical commie thing where anyone who opposes you is a capitalist.A 'better example' would be exactly what Christ setup: a monarchy.
>>43159900>every human being has an inmortal soulHow come? Why do you think so?>about destruction of the self.What's bad about this since the "self" is obviously an illusion. Think about your "self". It's all just thoughts, images and experiences. Is it really real? For example you suddenly forgot everything, the "self" would be destroyed.>i genuinely believe that versionBelief is not enough. And Buddhism is all about experience. What good is just believing in a dogma?I see a lot debate about different kinds of beliefs and dogmas such as Communism, Christianity, what Jesus said etc. in this thread. Ultimately all of them all false. All information is false. There are only pointers to the Truth.
>>43160334Not sure which monarchy you're referring to, because he sure as shit didn't set one up. He just left behind a belief system and some values for treating his fellow man
>>43159978the gestalt harmony of the physical elements of the body is the animus that animates said elements from static to life. body is the soular temple
>>43159900>To the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure.Buddha came from Nepal / northern India. He believed in Hindu cosmology. You have an atman. It’s a soul. It just incarnates more than once as a living being. You are in a wheel of incarnation after incarnation. Being after being. Bear, fly, cat, dog, monkey, worm, wolf, cow, human, ghost, demon, angel, god. Buddha’s way shows a path beyond the Grand Carousel. You can shout and scream and tell the world what (you) believe. But in the end, there is only silence and yourself looking back at you. You can either react to it. Or you can ignore it and see what lies beyond atman and incarnation.The path is there. You will eventually come to pursue it someday, sometime, somewhere.
>>43160347He names Peter the head of his Christian assembly (ekklesia). The earliest days of Christianity, literally 1st Century, already had three respective patriarchs established. The patriarchs are the monarch under Christ's domain. Just because it's not an all-encompassing government body (which Christ had no interest in establishing) does not mean it's not his preferred system. Render unto Caesar, while you submit to God's KINGDOM. Do you think the emphasis on the word Kingdom repeatedly stated by Christ throughout the New Testament means something else?>He just left behind a belief system and some values for treating his fellow manThis is why arguing with commies is always 100% of the time pointless. You all have nothing of value to say and just try to reduction everything down to try and wiggle your point in. Absolutely pathetic and spineless behavior.
>>43160378Oh GOD's kingdom, I thought you meant an actual system of government. Like one that existed
>>43160371In the end there is nothing to pursue or to achieve, those are just illusions of the mind. However, depending on the Spiritual tradition or system it might be useful to have some kind of "pointers" like they say in Buddhism. But ultimately they are false and if you literally believe them to be true, then you've just traded another illusion for another.
>>43160393Without following the path of purity and meditation you will never realize the illusion during bardo. There is a reason for the practices.
>>43160404Agree. Spiritual bypassing which is somewhat common nowadays is not how it works either. "oh I am already enlightened, no work needs to be done" while ignoring the obvious Karmic things "hovering" around in your life. True, we are all already enlightened (not saying that myself I am enlightened btw) but it still most of the time requires a lot of practice and discipline. And not only the reading kind of discipline but sitting in Silence kind of discipline etc.
>>43160390wow anon, it's almost like the spiritual anti-materialist system doesn't fit within the constraints of a materialistic anti-religious political ideology, and when you try to argue you don't get the results you want. who woulda thunk it?
>>43159900I don't know if it's evil per se, but buddhism sure is intellectually pretentious.>there are some vaishnava traditions that says that buddha was an avatar of vishnu to test hindu people if they are truly faithful to godYou know that every religion says this about others, right?>i would dare to say that he is by far the worse religious figure of mankindLet me introduce you to Muhammad.
There's paramatman, so it stands to reason to say that there's atman.
>>43159900>Bait thread started by a glowie to figure out how Buddhism works>He only does this because he wants to trojan horse Buddhism and create memetic viruses to destroy it. Shift + click.I hide every one of these threads and give up none of our secrets. Gotta say, feels pretty good.
>>43160952You've already given up a secret by saying you have a secret.
buddhism has more followers than jainism and also buddhism morphs into vanquishing of evil. The true religion should be Daoism's wu wei
>>43160962I don't normally check or respond, but I'll give in this once, for around an hour. The only reason these threads are made is because Buddhism is seen as a legitimate threat by western powers. They spent years using platforms like Facebook to invite ethnic rivalry in south Asia amongst Buddhists, trying to astroturf nationalist movements. Those movements have failed, disastrously. I know this because I have contacts globally. There are Buddhist uprisings against the military and nationalist movement in Myanmar, which earned the government office I had contact with being fucking bombed. Not to mention monks being killed en masse by the soldiers supported by China, America & France. This is all to reiterate the point; Buddhism is seen as a legitimate threat. Our religion and culture doesn't work the same way as Christianity. Western, Eurasian and Chinese powers are extremely baffled as what to do with us. They have been attempting to genocide us for years with little success. The best they have gotten is creating nationalist & consumerist trojan horses. They're *trying* to use academia as another method, but this is also failing. What scares them is that not only are their attempts failing, but we are growing.
>>43161015It's not any surprise that we have secrets. What is a surprise however is that we refuse to tell them flat out. And that, for those we do, that they cannot penetrate them. West/Eurasia/China have people working round the clock on things like meditation, to try and figure out if there's some way to mkultra it. They failed, so now they're gradually medicalizing it instead. All these posts on here trying to create a Buddhist chauvinist fervor, are blatantly false. They're made primarily by glowies and the few crazies they can produce. They want badly to sabotage us, but it won't happen. When they can't get the other methods to work, they try to insert idpol(Sexuality/Gender/Race/Identity/nationality/Eugenics/etc). But we just laugh them out of the space and gatekeep harder. It surprises them to no end. They are doing everything they can to prevent a global saffron revolution from happening. They are petrified of us because our economics, our politics, everything about us is different. Us becoming popular, in an authentic way, would destroy geopolitics. It would totally upend climate change (something purposefully being done to the planet). It would change the nature and applicability of space travel. It would change technology. It would change, literally, everything. The philosophic current of the world would shift dramatically, in almost unfathomable ways. They know this and they are desperate to prevent it. It's not gonna work.
>>43161042So right now they're offering a smorgas board of false Buddhist teachings in the west. They offer sutravada, modified heavily with Catholic/protestant view. They offer nationalist-politicized Buddhism. They offer "secular" Buddhism. They offer chauvinism. They offer you everything to keep you away from us. To stop you from becoming one of us. They spend thousands of dollars to create dictatorships in Buddhist countries, to destroy them thoroughly wherever possible. They badly want us to disappear.They spend even more money to create psyops online and in media to poison the water against Buddhism. As said before, it's not gonna work. They're enacting several different genocides on us at this time, yet still, we persist. Final (long) post coming. Then, I'll take (some) questions, if any have them.
>>43161015>>43161042>>43161083Sorry but that sounds like every other "the world is out to get us" speech every single major religion has. We've heard that so many times. Also, every religion has its secrets, not just you.
>>43161083West/Eurasia/China are all working towards the same end: Destroy the world and create authoritarian-fascist regimes globally. They're all larping the book of revelations. They thought, to some extent, that once they've decimated the world enough, enacted enough holy wars, they could convince people that the rubble they rule over is the new utopia. Until they inevitably find some other identity to persecute and claim an existential war against. It's only now that they've realized, their project, has failed successfully. They succeeded in destroying the world through politics, climate change and pollution....the problem is they were so successful that it's become uncontrollable. The social destruction is leading people away from society and into genuine spiritual pursuit, which is making them ungovernable. The other two poles (climate & pollution) have created an even bigger problem. We are going to have increasingly extreme weather. Events that were predicted to happen years later, will start happening "sooner than expected". The weather will get more and more extreme. Until, eventually, things change to a radical level. Imagine constant heat waves, torrential floods, poisoned air. Imagine drought across the entire planet. Imagine global dust bowls. Cities almost permanently encased in darkness. Imagine diseases ravaging the land in ways you cannot fathom. Polio, bubonic plague, air born AIDS...and far worse. Imagine the sky becoming so warped that UV radiation and heat become deadly. Imagine having to wear several layers of clothes in hot weather, covering your entire body, just to prevent sun based death.That is coming and it's coming fast. (1/2)
>>43161123You will see famines unlike anything you can imagine. Cities infiltrated by the ultra wealthy, afraid of losing their power, will fall to total depravity. People will eat fucking babies because the powerful would rather your society stay Christian/secular and keep them wealthy, than lose either of those. It will seem slow at first, these issues, and people will write it off as nothing.They'll try to run things like normal, until suddenly its everywhere. At that point they'll start calling for wars. But those wars, will fail. They will cause people to turn against their governments, half crazed from bitter heat, tearing them apart like the maenads tore apart Orpheus. The west, the entire world, is fast heading towards hard times. Their hope, their bitter hope, is that somehow they make it through the end. That they convince people the holy war is real, that theyre building a utopia, so on and forth. It will all fail. They are gonna lose everything and they can't control it. The curious thing is what happens after the failure. We are going to see the world become very magical, very shortly. More supposed UFO sightings, alongside ghosts, spirits, etc. The post-collapse will likely see a variety of different religious-political landscapes. Big powers balkanized into suzerain relationships of tribal-republics. Technology changed wildly, etc. It will be very interesting to see. (2/2)If any questions are had, I can answer. With some exceptions.
>>43161155>It will be very interesting to see.Never a good omen.
