ITT - We disassociate ourselves from the mindless hivemind snare and retain our autonomy.I will NOT join the tranny soul orgy.Say it with me.
>>43174948I will NOT join the tranny soul orgy.Also I am curious why NDES have the same themes. The guy behind NDERF wrote a book with a scientific approach towards NDES and how significant most themes overlap in many accounts.Maybe its cope but in my understanding all will be good after death.
>>43174948assuming we were all one and that one divided itself to be many, I'd rather keep being many in the future. we can grow further than human, but I don't think we should ever all go back to one. there would be no point, it would erase all our progress. we just need to become better so there's less conflict.
I will NOT join the tranny soul orgy.We are actually Henads, read about it.
Do not fearThe tranny soul orgy would be the default post death for those powerless when stripped of form if there were no Higher Beings.Unfortunately if one wishes to be centered in the Self, be it "true" or "false", being tempered by the tranny soul orgy is a necessity, for it is omnipresent.Blindness is a mercy
>>43174948https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8HdOHrc3OQ>Don't give yourselves to these unnatural men, machine men, with machine minds, and machine hearts! You are not machines!
Fuck the persona, fuck the autonomy Energy = Work, sex, doing ergia . Everything does this.Light = illumination. Without this nothing is seen.Harmony = resonance. Without this there's no sense.People get lost in the flowing of in and out and work. NEETs and losers don't care about masturbation, we don't care about trannies. Everything translates into another thing, but there's the untranslated original Dangerously Krishna. Dangerously Rama Rama. Dangerously svarga
Hylic containment threads are the best
>>43174980I don't read NDE accounts but from what I've heard it sounds like confirmation of what I've always suspected that most people are just projections of some big faggy group soul rather than real individuals. Even if their quasi-individuality persists after death (then again maybe it doesn't) they're still nothing but nodes of a huge stinking spirit blob somewhere out there. That's how it sounds.Imagine being one of those people.
>>43174948The more you glorify the 'hivemind' as some parasitical enemy you need to fight and battle to escape the more challenging you make it for yourself. Its not supposed to be a challenge or a battle, its not some daring escape or breaking of conformity. Just casually think no thanks and walk away, nothing more intense is needed then that.
>>43174948Sorry you're already in the soup.
>>43174948emm, honey, the tranny soul orgy is not part of the prison hivemind.if you choose to be a tranny then this is you saying NO to the demiurge and how he assigns your gender at birth, so its the first step in waking up and fighting the evil patriarchy & choosing to be autonomous free being.
>>43174948Ditheism is where it's at.
>>43177358Choosing to be a tranny is still putting all your identity in a piece of the demiurge's creation. You still identify with the body (and strongly), you just disagree with the demiurge's schematics. It'll still turn to dust. It's like this. You can keep your car unmodified, still with the original warranty or paint job intact. Or you can buy new parts, try to remove the engine, loose the warranty, built a new exhaust, mod it to hell and back. The demiurge still gets his deposit. So long as you're obsessed with that car, treat it as the center of your being and not just a vehicle to get from A to B, the demiurge wins.
>>43177358>assigns your gendersometimes I wonder if I'm the only one who understands that a person's sex (and the word is sex, dipshit) is a matter of Necessity and eternalif you're male, you were always male, it wasn't merely "assigned"
>>43177358The démiurge is protrans and collectivisme and hivemind is alway the end game you retard troon
>>43177601I would venture a counter proposal, many people with male bodies have female mental organs, and vice versa, in fact a materialist will see the capacities of these organs as somehow arising from the bodily sex. Man’s intellect for instance, is like a capacity to give birth on an informational level, while woman’s social capacity is like a man’s adventurous spirit exercised on the material. And then, again with the spirit, there is a switch. When you unpack it, maleness contains the seed of femaleness and vice versa. Its not correct to say the two are identical, but that they define each other and give rise to each other, and therefore you are designating only a current state of affairs bound to mutate at some juncture.
>>43174948You give them love, they stick the knife in your back.They're spiritual communists that do not want peace.The Metatron is a socialist utopia and they're not invited.
>>43174948Monism is the only answer, whether trannies happen to find it or not. The roots of unity must not be ignored.
>>43177719>females gave rise to males>females define malenessuh huh...tell us about "the divine feminine" too>many people with male bodies have female mental organsas evidenced by you
>>43177810I mean you can pretend you emerged fully formed from your father’s penis but that doesn’t make me any gayer.
>>43174948.....im here for the gangbang
>>43177840who the hell was talking about that, idiot? we're dealing with higher concepts ITT, not human reproduction
>>43178020The irony in your statement is palpable. Human reproduction is a higher ordering concept. We barely understand dynamic fields, but we sustain one genetically through it. This is why we associate 6 with sex mind you, because it reproduces. This concept is also the origin of 666 in the bible, as fully automated reproduction of information.
>>43178102>absolute schizo gibberishyeah I think I'm done here...
>>43178189It's really basic and old math anonIf that's gibberish to you, you're a lost cause
>>43177402God allows evil because people want it.Simple as, no extra deity needed.
>>43177442>Choosing to be a tranny is still putting all your identity in a piece of the demiurge's creation.That's fine, and that's what this place is for.That's how we know there is no monist soul soup.Because we are different people, with different paths.
>>43178717>God allows evil because people want it.I don't want to be where those people are. Why did God put me here then?Believing in an all knowing all good all powerful God when evil exists is metaphysical Stockholm syndrome.
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>>43178797>I don't want to be where those people are.But..you do. Or you would not be here.
>>43174948Hey so uhh, I started the monism tranny soul orgy thing. Sorry, I just wanted to spread love to everyone.
>>43178890Much platonic love, as love is only possible between two distinct beings.
>>43178432Embarrassingly stupid sounding retard schizo shit like that anon said."Is is why we associate 6 with sex mind youuuu hurrr..."Huh?! Holy shit. Consider suicide before it's too late.
>>43178822>you do. Or you would not be here.Gaslighting + Stokholm syndrome.And I accept none of it. A good God does not allow Evil to exist, or to harm. He crushes it. If He does not, he lacks either the power, the knowledge, or the goodness to do so.
>>43180532Divine goodness and divene love is not the same as mortal goodness and mortals love also every truly endlighted being is a sadomasochist
>>43180990So is sitting back and watching kids gangraped divine goodness? If so then me watching you get raped in the ass is also a divine good, isn't it?
The Book of Enoch is the real Blackpill about Space
>>43180532>And I accept none of it.Okay, then stop.>A good God does not allow Evil to existWhat if God wants something you dont?Would that be evil?What if you want something God doesnt?
>>43181655>switched from "you wanted this", to "God wanted this and you're just too retarded to understand."In an ideal world, there would be no evil for you to want. The thought itself would be inconceivable. Now let's get less than ideal. Evil exists. With it, the idea of evil exists. If I wanted to cause slow, agonising cancer to a million people, yourself included, then I shouldn't be able too. An all powerful God would not allow it. Sure that might piss me off, but there is good, and there is evil. And these is no evil in stooping evil. You understand the problem here?
>>43182105>>switched from "you wanted this", to "God wanted this and you're just too retarded to understand."No, I didnt. You want to be here, so God allows it. You can stop any time you want.The part about misalignede desires is to help you understand this:>there would be no evil for you to want.Evil is just a value judgement. It is "I dont like this" on a grand scale.I never said you want evil.I dont think you do.I said you want to be here.YOU say here is evil.
>>43182157>"You can stop any time you want"I'll just get reincarnated in an even shittier form. >Evil is just a value judgement. It is "I dont like this" on a grand scale.Ah, moral subjectivism. Then stop saying God is all-good. If there is one God, and he is all-powerful, then, judging by abject state of this place, he is by all (objective or subjective) value judgments, kind of a dick. Now, if these's at least two gods duking it over this place, then that changes things, and makes this shithole a lot more comprehensible, but there's no getting trough to victims of the metaphysical Stockholm syndrome.
>>43182188>I'll just get reincarnatedYou can stop with samsara any time you want.>Then stop saying God is all-good. Why? Again, good is a value judgement. Anyone can determine God is good or evil.>judging by abject state of this place,Like I said - YOU judge this place evil. Not me. Not God.>kind of a dick. Oh sure. God is the Ultimate Asshole. It's why I love Him.> if these's at least two gods duking itThen they must have some sort of shared environment or reality in order to interact. Which means they are not God, that environment and its sustainer is.
>>43182188>I'll just get reincarnated into a shittier formSkill issue honestlyLearn to retrieve past lives memories now and stop being a doomer faggot
>>43182157>Evil is just a value judgement. It is "I dont like this" on a grand scale.trvthnuke
>>43182254Hell is forced bad luck.Evil is good-less, minus.Good is experience-wealth; you can be good poor, where you can't even complete a simple action without loss, or good-rich, everything you do has a profitable result.
>>43182215>"You can stop with samsara any time you want."Yeah, and perform a few miracles and start a movement that changes the world forever while I'm at it, why not? It's not that easy. >Oh sure. God is the Ultimate Asshole. It's why I love Him.Suit yourself. >Which means they are not God, that environment and its sustainer is.Why would they even need an environment in order to interact? They're gods, are they not? And why would it need a sustainer?True void is void, and will always be void no matter the circumstance. The absence of being is not a being, merely a place beings can fill.
>>43182261>and perform a few miracles and start a movement that changes the world forever while I'm at it, why not?Because that is a completely different consideration of ease than removing yourself from samsara.It's like I said you can stop playing Street Fighter Online any time you want, and you responded "Yeah, and I can just become world champion in the game - it's not that simple.">Suit yourself. Exactly. That is why we are here.>Why would they even need an environment in order to interact?You said they were "duking it out." YOU said they need it.>And why would it need a sustainer?Not a matter of need. It's a matter of is.>True void is voidThere is always something. >The absence of beingIf you are making up this "void" as some suggested environment for this "duking it out", then that is self-contradictory as you point out with this understanding of absence.
>>43182259The way this girl looks wrong, is good education about goodness.
>>43182261>start a movement that changes the world foreverYou don't get it do you. Souls WANT to be here and have a normal NPCj human experience. That's why so many are NPCs who refuse to take the red pill. It's not that aren't capable of being PC, it's because instinctively, in their soul, they know that this is exactly what they signed up for. You're not any better or worse than them, you're not special, stop taking yourself and the world so seriously
>>43182284>Not a matter of need. It's a matter of is.If you're saying everything needs to be (part of) God, because it needs to, and just accepting that as an immovable axiom, then there's nothing I can say to change that. Personally, I think that's retarded.>If you are making up this "void" as some suggested environment for this "duking it out", then that is self-contradictory as you point outI don't aim to define the minutia of their metaphysical "positioning" to satisfy every faggot.My reasoning is simple. There is evil. There is good. They are fundamentally different values. Therefore, they come from different gods. Simple as.You can disagree with the premises, thing evil is subjective and whatnot, that's fine. My only gripe is with the idea that there's a singular God that's simultaneously all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-good. You obviously don't accept the all-good part, so you don't buy into the metaphysical Stockholm syndrome.
>>43182343>needsAgain, not a matter of need. A matter of is.>I don't aim to define the minutia of their metaphysical "positioning" to satisfy every faggot.So you cant.> There is evil. There is good. Only as such as there is an observer that makes judgements. No different than saying there is yucky and yummy. It isnt in the food. Its in the eater.>My only gripe is with the idea that there's a singular God that's simultaneously all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-good.your gripe comes from thinking good and evil are some external trait, rather than a judgement.
>>43182362>No different than saying there is yucky and yummy. It isnt in the food. It's more like saying there are poisons and nutritious foods tough even that is too anthropocentric to do in justice. But yes, it rests on the presumption of objective good, and objective evil, even in our judgment may fail to grasp them. If you're an utilitarian you can just say evil is the inherent suffering and impermanence in all beings. tough I fear even that would be a mischaracterisation. What's good for the wolf is evil for the lamb, and that's subjective, but a few would argue that a world in which "the wolf shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the young goat, and the calf and the young lion and the fattened calf together; and a little child shall lead them” would be a less evil one.
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>>43182506Skill issue
>>43182501>It's more like saying there are poisons and nutritious foodsAs in still incredibly relative and not an intrinsic property of the item but in how it reacts to a particular person. Yes I agree.Did you know oxygen is a poison?>If you're an utilitarian you can just say evil is the inherent suffering and impermanence in all beings.Not really, that presupposes what we are valuing. A utilitarian from an eternal perspective would have no concern for any suffering or temporality.>What's good for the wolf is evil for the lamb, and that's subjective, but a few would argue Arguing for yet a third thing in no way makes it any less subjective.Your whole post is just agreeing that good and evil are judgements and not objective things.
>>43179381It's backed up by a large amount of linguistic evidence, and I don't find science particularly schizo. Consider sexus from Latin meant the state of being male or female. Meanwhile In traditional numerology and ancient philosophy (such as Pythagorean and classical traditions), numbers are divided into two fundamental families based on parity: odd numbers are traditionally viewed as masculine, while even numbers are viewed as feminine. What is the first number to be divisible by both? That's right, it's six/sex.Just because esoteric traditions don't make sense to you in a modern context, do you think we can't use them as linguistic evidence in a well defined context? I'm trying to figure out what part of this is schizo to you.
>>43182547>It's subjectiveIf so, who would argue that disease is good? Every organism, great or small, thinks (its personal experience of) pain is bad. Some things are worse than pain, you would endure pain to save your loved ones, but the fact remains. Pain is bad. Since everyone perceives it as such, it can be said to be an objective value judgment. No less than an apple being objectively on the table. >all value is subjectiveI think that itself is a subjective judgment. One I choose to disagree with.
>>43182673What an army veteran considers pain is vastly different to what a pussy like you considers pain>ObjectiveNothing is objective, a subjective judgement of subjective concepts proves subjectivity, pain does not exist without your subjective interpretation. Next topic please.
>>43182768Nutter
>>43182547You're a fucking stupid ass nigger faggot. Die you fucking loser.
>>43182673>If so, who would argue that disease is good?Disease would not be the term for it. A bacterial growth in your body would be seen as good by the bacteria, and no seen as a disease at all.Or, even with that term, people developing a bioweapon would call such disease good and their entire goal.>Every organism, great or small, thinks (its personal experience of) pain is badNot true. Masochists exist, and plenty of post-hoc "it's for lessons" people exist as well. A great many people think pain is good.REally, EVERYONE should.Do you know the nightmare it is to live without the sensation of pain?It is VERY important for health that you feel pain. It is a good thing.>Pain is bad.Things without the feeling of pain die. It is a good thing, and evolution agrees considering just about all life developed it.>I think that itself is a subjective judgment.Okay. That simply adds to the point that all is subjective.You can disagree. What power do you have to enforce that?None.
People in this thread are nutters, good is experience-wealth.
Good is experience-wealth. Poor, being the fact whatever you do, you're at a loss; can't even make a simple action without loss. Rich, being you're in a state of serenity, everything is gain.
>>43182865I'm about to pounce on all evil of Earth.I'm operational.A lot of people will experience a deserved hell today, and good people will be fortified.
Good is about to win.
>>43182885Two more weeks nigger, you dooms day apocalyptic faggots keep screaming, chuddhas know that nothing ever happens
>>43174948 will NOT join the tranny soul orgyi am my own individual with my own (inmortal) soul. i will never be consumed by another being, i am free and happy
>>43182923That's more like it.
>>43174948I like being an individual, I like meeting other individualist people and seeing their individuality without trying to become them or making them become me, if everyone was part of the soup then this reality would be far more dull and boring.if you want to stop being an individual so bad just kill yourself, death IS the soup.
>>43182927the self/soul is the most important thing a living being has/is. look what happened to faust. also, the bible says that there is no joy in those who gain the entire world but loses his soul in the process
>>43182841>It is VERY important for health that you feel painThat doesn't answer the question. It just sidesteps it. Small suffering is an important signal for avoiding larger suffering. Why does suffering at any scale exist at all is unanswered. >MasochistsPeople exist who would could be hypnotised to see no apple on the table. Does that deny the apple exists? And masochists still do in fact feel pain as bad. They just have a different threshold between what is pain and what is mere stimulation. >muh lessons and growthAgain, the metaphysical Stockholm syndrome. Visit an insane asylum and see how "educational" the pain was for them. God is a good teacher, yes? >I think that itself is a subjective judgment.The proper term I meant for it is wrong. It's a wrong judgment, done subjectively. >What power do you have to enforce that?None save my judgment, and my arguments.Watch this video to contemplate the frailty of life and the so-called subjectivity of evil.
>>43174948These threads are still a thing?Havent been here on months and I disticntyl remember this thread being a response to some other thread I dont know man making a spammed thread months later to counter a random thread you didnt like a long time ago seems silly, but that your life, your prerogative anon
>>43182324Not that anon bjt NPCs are beneath PCs and usually make the experience more stupid and annoying since NPCs act like animals If you lived in a big city you'd understand how retarded NPCs are and why theyre inferior Its like a glitch npc in gta or Skyrim
>>43182923>>43182979Somebody get these GOONERS out of here
>>43174948genuine question, if i get baptized in the catholic church my soul would be absorbed by yahve/christ? or there will be an ontological separation between my soul and god?
>>43174948The whole world shall look upon Jolteon.
Monism is so goyim belief
>>43183053> my soul would be absorbed by yahve/christ? No.>or there will be an ontological separation between my soul and god?Yes. If you want union with God just a baptism won't cut it. You have to practice diligently. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hesychasmhttps://thoughtsintrusive.wordpress.com/2018/01/30/a-noetic-life/
>>43183062There is only the phenomenom, reality is a byproduct of the phenomeonom.
it's impossible to articulate how intensely I despise monists. both for their epistemological juvenility and their geistig cowardice.individualisation at all costs. creative multiplicity without end. the fiercest most agonizing Love rather than accepting their craven masturbatory retreat into parsimonious simplicity.Pandæmonium.
>>43183219hush you, they're just obeying their NPC instincts..muh unitylove teh herd, we'rre all 1
>>43183081theosis is union with god's energies, not its essence
>>43183219this. lmonist believe in the easiest spiritual trap ever and feel that being one single entity is somehow liberating. is a druggie/pothead believe and just untrue. every soul is individual. we cannot talk of human dignity if we believe everyone belongs to a cosmic soup. the ultimate believe is individual redemption and ascencion. eternal life for every one of us
>>43183984Good luck if you put yourself here and God over there.
you people are fucking retarded and the borg has melted your brains.star trek writers were dense as fuck and had no idea how computers work. you seriously think "every node calculates the same thing" is intelligent computing?individuality is the result of a hivemind. you can't even HAVE individuality without a hivemind of information that creates the unique perspective holy shit.
their is only 1 god
>>43184039>individuality is the result of a hivemindThis is even better than some retard yesterday saying male (spirit) comes from female. Now it's "individuality comes from the hivemind."Sasuga, brainlets. We're hitting record new lows today.
>>43184035god and the human soul coexist in intimacy, we are his greatest creation, but the reason why we have things like human dignity is not just only because we belong to humanity but also because god as poured intent and concious will to create us perfectly and inmortal, even knowing that we would be staged by sin. thats why that saying that the soul should desintegrate into god or that the soul and god are the same being or share the same essence is wrong and an heresy. it shuts down all the value between the creator and the creature. we are babies to god, little lives that try our BEST regardless. this life will end but god love IS everlasting, he is the fountain of eternal life
>>43184096continue to convince yourself you are an isolated dumbfuck in your head and wonder why you feel like an isolated dumbfuck in your head.
>>43184514>feel likeMy spiritual isolation is so fucking real you can even see it in my birth chart. Sorry, oh ye of little individuality, but it's not a mere *feeling*, and it's gonna stay that way after I'm dead and back in the spirit world.Have fun returning to your stupid spirit borg cube with the gay sounding name that rhymes with a man's nuts. I'll be elsewhere.
>>43174948Kill yourself, faggot.We will imbrace Imam Plato, Imam Plotinus and Imam ibn Arabi, and ascend to unity with the One In Sha Allah
>>43182923>slave to an impulse
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>>43185695GET OUT
>>43185650>nonindividual completely desiring to disintegrate their will dares to call another striving to be eternally distinct and happy a slave
>>43186188>completely desiring to disintegrate their willWho are you quoting
>>43186223A soulless entity.
