1) The horizon always appears perfectly flat 360 degrees around the observer regardless of altitude. All amateur balloon, rocket, plane and drone footage show a completely flat horizon over 20+ miles high. Only NASA and other government “space agencies” show curvature in their fake CGI photos/videos.
2) The horizon always rises to the eye level of the observer as altitude is gained, so you never have to look down to see it. If Earth were in fact a globe, no matter how large, as you ascended the horizon would stay fixed and the observer / camera would have to tilt looking down further and further to see it.
3) The natural physics of water is to find and maintain its level. If Earth were a giant sphere tilted, wobbling and hurdling through infinite space then truly flat, consistently level surfaces would not exist here. But since Earth is in fact an extended flat plane, this fundamental physical property of fluids finding and remaining level is consistent with experience and common sense.
4) Rivers run down to sea-level finding the easiest course, North, South, East, West and all other intermediary directions over the Earth at the same time. If Earth were truly a spinning ball then many of these rivers would be impossibly flowing uphill, for example the Mississippi in its 3000 miles would have to ascend 11 miles before reaching the Gulf of Mexico.5) One portion of the Nile River flows for a thousand miles with a fall of only one foot. Parts of the West African Congo, according to the supposed inclination and movement of the ball-Earth, would be sometimes running uphill and sometimes down. This would also be the case for the Parana, Paraguay and other long rivers.
Go on top of a mountain in a remote island and take a panoramic pic
6) If Earth were a ball 25,000 miles in circumference as NASA and modern astronomy claim, spherical trigonometry dictates the surface of all standing water must curve downward an easily measurable 8 inches per mile multiplied by the square of the distance. This means along a 6 mile channel of standing water, the Earth would dip 6 feet on either end from the central peak. Every time such experiments have been conducted, however, standing water has proven to be perfectly level.7) Surveyors, engineers and architects are never required to factor the supposed curvature of the Earth into their projects. Canals, railways, bridges and tunnels for example are always cut and laid horizontally, often over hundreds of miles without any allowance for curvature.8) The Suez Canal connecting the Mediterranean with the Red Sea is 100 miles long without any locks making the water an uninterrupted continuation of the two seas. When constructed, the Earth’s supposed curvature was not taken into account, it was dug along a horizontal datum line 26 feet below sea-level, passing through several lakes from one sea to the other, with the datum line and water’s surface running perfectly parallel over the 100 miles.
9) Engineer, W. Winckler was published in the Earth Review regarding the Earth’s supposed curvature, stating, “As an engineer of many years standing, I saw that this absurd allowance is only permitted in school books. No engineer would dream of allowing anything of the kind. I have projected many miles of railways and many more of canals and the allowance has not even been thought of, much less allowed for. This allowance for curvature means this – that it is 8” for the first mile of a canal, and increasing at the ratio by the square of the distance in miles; thus a small navigable canal for boats, say 30 miles long, will have, by the above rule an allowance for curvature of 600 feet. Think of that and then please credit engineers as not being quite such fools. Nothing of the sort is allowed. We no more think of allowing 600 feet for a line of 30 miles of railway or canal, than of wasting our time trying to square the circle”10) The London and Northwestern Railway forms a straight line 180 miles long between London and Liverpool. The railroad’s highest point, midway at Birmingham station, is only 240 feet above sea-level. If the world were actually a globe, however, curving 8 inches per mile squared, the 180 mile stretch of rail would form an arc with the center point at Birmingham raising over a mile, a full 5,400 feet above London and Liverpool.
Reddit is gay>King Arthur sailed to Rupes Nigra, which is not located at the center of earth, but in the southern lands, Tycho on the moon may be a reflection
11) A surveyor and engineer of thirty years published in the Birmingham Weekly Mercury stated, “I am thoroughly acquainted with the theory and practice of civil engineering. However bigoted some of our professors may be in the theory of surveying according to the prescribed rules, yet it is well known amongst us that such theoretical measurements are INCAPABLE OF ANY PRACTICAL ILLUSTRATION. All our locomotives are designed to run on what may be regarded as TRUE LEVELS or FLATS. There are, of course, partial inclines or gradients here and there, but they are always accurately defined and must be carefully traversed. But anything approaching to eight inches in the mile, increasing as the square of the distance, COULD NOT BE WORKED BY ANY ENGINE THAT WAS EVER YET CONSTRUCTED. Taking one station with another all over England and Scotland, it may be stated that all the platforms are ON THE SAME RELATIVE LEVEL. The distance between Eastern and Western coasts of England may be set down as 300 miles. If the prescribed curvature was indeed as represented, the central stations at Rugby or Warwick ought to be close upon three miles higher than a chord drawn from the two extremities. If such was the case there is not a driver or stoker within the Kingdom that would be found to take charge of the train. We can only laugh at those of your readers who seriously give us credit for such venturesome exploits, as running trains round spherical curves. Horizontal curves on levels are dangerous enough, vertical curves would be a thousand times worse, and with our rolling stock constructed as at present physically impossible.”12) The Manchester Ship Canal Company published in the Earth Review stated, “It is customary in Railway and Canal constructions for all levels to be referred to a datum which is nominally horizontal and is so shown on all sections. It is not the practice in laying out Public Works to make allowances for the curvature of the earth
13) In a 19th century French experiment by M. M. Biot and Arago a powerful lamp with good reflectors was placed on the summit of Desierto las Palmas in Spain and able to be seen all the way from Camprey on the Island of Iviza. Since the elevation of the two points were identical and the distance between covered nearly 100 miles, if Earth were a ball 25,000 miles in circumference, the light should have been more than 6600 feet, a mile and a quarter, below the line of sight!14) The Lieutenant-Colonel Portlock experiment used oxy-hydrogen Drummond’s lights and heliostats to reflect the sun’s rays across stations set up across 108 miles of St. George’s Channel. If the Earth were actually a ball 25,000 miles in circumference, Portlock’s light should have remained hidden under a mile and a half of curvature.15) If the Earth were truly a sphere 25,000 miles in circumference, airplane pilots would have to constantly correct their altitudes downwards so as to not fly straight off into “outer space;” a pilot wishing to simply maintain their altitude at a typical cruising speed of 500 mph, would have to constantly dip their nose downwards and descend 2,777 feet (over half a mile) every minute! Otherwise, without compensation, in one hour’s time the pilot would find themselves 31.5 miles higher than expected.16) The experiment known as “Airy’s Failure” proved that the stars move relative to a stationary Earth and not the other way around. By first filling a telescope with water to slow down the speed of light inside, then calculating the tilt necessary to get the starlight directly down the tube, Airy failed to prove the heliocentric theory since the starlight was already coming in the correct angle with no change necessary, and instead proved the geocentric model correct.
17) “Olber’s Paradox” states that if there were billions of stars which are suns the night sky would be filled completely with light. As Edgar Allen Poe said, “Were the succession of stars endless, then the background of the sky would present us a uniform luminosity, since there could exist absolutely no point, in all that background, at which would not exist a star.” In fact Olber’s “Paradox” is no more a paradox than George Airy’s experiment was a “failure.” Both are actually excellent refutations of the heliocentric spinning ball model.18) The Michelson-Morley and Sagnac experiments attempted to measure the change in speed of light due to Earth’s assumed motion through space. After measuring in every possible different direction in various locations they failed to detect any significant change whatsoever, again proving the stationary geocentric model.19) Tycho Brahe famously argued against the heliocentric theory in his time, positing that if the Earth revolved around the Sun, the change in relative position of the stars after 6 months orbital motion could not fail to be seen. He argued that the stars should seem to separate as we approach and come together as we recede. In actual fact, however, after 190,000,000 miles of supposed orbit around the Sun, not a single inch of parallax can be detected in the stars, proving we have not moved at all.20) If Earth were truly constantly spinning Eastwards at over 1000mph, vertically-fired cannonballs and other projectiles should fall significantly due west. In actual fact, however, whenever this has been tested, vertically-fired cannonballs shoot upwards an average of 14 seconds ascending, 14 seconds descending, and fall back to the ground no more than 2 feet away from the cannon, often directly back into the muzzle.
>>43180711
Zoom out, you're being too anthropomorphic. Sometimes you want to see reality and then you must put away with beliefs, simply how it is. This isn't belief, this is reality, this came from Vishnu.
God created Space and the whole Universe Humans cannot go to other Planets because Humans were created specifically to live on Earth the World will end before Humans visit other Planets
>>43180711So is your encephalogram
>>43180711It does matter if the earth was triangle. How are you being of service? How are you helping others?
>>43181054If a population believes you were once a random glob goo in a chemical reaction living on a speck of globular dust in an infinite nothingness, how do you think such a population would live their lives being told that?
>>43180711Riddle me this flatman:>Why do stars rotate counter clockwise in the north hemisphere and clockwise in the southern hemisphere
The ka'aba is saturn AKA mount meru aka the pole aka the world tree, the black mountain talked about in numerous legends.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFLJFbEbw10&t=37299s
>>43181128Riddle me this, niggerman: How do you know that claim is true?
>>43181131I put together something based on the research I did.
>>43181054Ay man, it's yo boy soulja boy, tell em. If you aren't a good person, if you aren't being of service, then reconsider in.. 3..2..1 Ay yo man it's drake, we're here to inform you, if you don't behave according to whatever the social norms are of your time... If you aren't being vaguely nice. Then you arent' a good person, then reconsdier in 3..2..1 If you wanna be a good person, you must be of service, you must help society function. We will send you st james island, heard it's so much fun. If you wanna be a good person, then go. be. of. service.
>>43181178Because I live in Europe and have visited south americaand I have eyes retard
>>43180711lets get past the point of tryinf to prove it, lets say its the truth.what are the implications, especially narrowed down to the current pop culture psyops:- nuclear war- ufo/nhi conspiracies- space agenciesetc.the idea to say that to believe you come from stardust and amount ro nothing would lead to an immoral, godless evil life, is wrong and dimwittery:if being good is fueled by fear or (divine)judgement, is it really "good"?? of course not. the real test is to see if someone is good in the absence of all judgement, thus god is invisible and does not exit for all intents and purposes.so the conspiracy of globe earth can not be about pushing people to moral decay/degeneracy. evil people are evil regardless, good people good as well.this may be tied to the idea of aliens but the mainstream narrative distanced themselves from that as well, they are called ultraterestrials or interdimensional way more than extraterestrial (which would imply heliocentrism)so there is no coherent conspiracy here. things dont add up. tell me, whats the purpose of this "lie"?
I believe it. Check out godgevlamste. He thinks it’s flat and in a crater.
>>43181043>posts jewish science Just go away
>>43181128>gives jewish scientific explanations to justify jewish scientific beliefs
>>43181294I didn't give any explanationI am asking for your explanation of a basic observation that buck breaks your "theory"
>>43180961>believes in retarded God
>>43181192you'd be right, but i think the more accurate form of the model is the sun on the pole pre-moon golden age (Yes the same golden age through out many religions and belief system lol) the video i sent is great too, eric dubay also made a vid on the axis mundi. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJXdEDxPUWA
>midwit superiority complex: the thread
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>>43180711You will never be a real theory. You have no map, you have no model, you have no evidence. You are a schizophrenic delusion twisted by memes and shitposts into a crude mockery of science’s perfection.All the “support” you get is ironic or glowing. Behind your back people laugh at you. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your retardation behind closed doors.Men are utterly humored by you. Thousands of years of observing the sky has allowed men to understand the shape of the earth with incredible efficiency. Even flerf evidence that “makes sense” looks hilarious and retarded to a man. Your dome structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk guy to believe you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second the sun rises, proving the globe.You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the lack of a model creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight of gravity.Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss, undeniably proving the existence of gravity. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a retard is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a planet that is unmistakably round.This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
>>43180711>The horizon always appears perfectly flat 360 degrees around the observer regardless of altitudeYou're simply not going high enough.>>43180719>The horizon always rises to the eye level of the observer as altitude is gainedStraight up incorrect. Can't even make 2 claims without lying.>>43180724>The natural physics of water is to find and maintain its level.And level in this case means the surface of the water is at the same height. On a spherical planet this means it's at the same distance from the center.>>43180736>muh riversNigger what are you even trying to say?>>43180767>If Earth were a ball 25,000 miles in circumference as NASA and modern astronomy claim, spherical trigonometry dictates the surface of all standing water must curve downward an easily measurable 8 inches per mile multiplied by the square of the distanceCorrect. And it does. You're free to post an experiment that disproves this. I'll mention the rainy lake experiment as one that proves it.>Surveyors, engineers and architects are never required to factor the supposed curvature of the Earth into their projects.If this was true, you could prove it. You won't because it's bullshit and projects that are large enough do in fact account for curvature.>When constructed, the Earth’s supposed curvature was not taken into account>still no source>>43180775>I have projected many miles of railways and many more of canalsRailways are made of short parts some meters in length. At that scale curvature is irrelevant. With canals, you just dig down to the same depth at every point along it.>If the world were actually a globe, however, curving 8 inches per mile squared, the 180 mile stretch of rail would form an arc with the center point at Birmingham raising over a mile, a full 5,400 feet above London and Liverpool.Who says it doesn't?
>>43180786>All our locomotives are designed to run on what may be regarded as TRUE LEVELS or FLATS.No shit because a train is only some hundreds of meters long. It might as well be flat at that scale.>But anything approaching to eight inches in the mile, increasing as the square of the distance, COULD NOT BE WORKED BY ANY ENGINE THAT WAS EVER YET CONSTRUCTED.Why not? You're acting like the train would be moving downhill when on reality, as it moves, the direction of gravity keeps shifting so it's always down.>The Manchester Ship Canal Company published in the Earth Review stated,Interesting claim. You can surely give a link.>>43180798>if Earth were a ball 25,000 miles in circumference, the light should have been more than 6600 feet, a mile and a quarter, below the line of sight!>If the Earth were actually a ball 25,000 miles in circumference, Portlock’s light should have remained hidden under a mile and a half of curvature.Only purely geometrically. You also need to account for refraction no matter how many times you try to conveniently forget it.>If the Earth were truly a sphere 25,000 miles in circumference, airplane pilots would have to constantly correct their altitudes downwardsThey wouldn't because gravity always points to the center of the earth. Same as the train thing above.>Airy’s FailureThat was trying to prove the existence of the aether. It disproved it and proved the globe. Seethe.>>43180805>“Olber’s Paradox” states that if there were billions of stars which are suns the night sky would be filled completely with light.No. It states that if there's an infinite amount of stars, the sky would be as bright as the sun. The observable universe is finite, though, so that's not an issue.>The Michelson-Morley and Sagnac experiments attempted to measure the change in speed of lightNot how the speed of light works. It's always constant regardless of observer velocity and there is no absolute reference frame.
>>43180805>In actual fact, however, after 190,000,000 miles of supposed orbit around the Sun, not a single inch of parallax can be detectedincorrect. Stellar parallax is in fact exactly how we measure distances to stars.>If Earth were truly constantly spinning Eastwards at over 1000mph, vertically-fired cannonballs and other projectiles should fall significantly due west.They wouldn't and don't for the same reason a ball thrown up in a car doesn't immediately crash into the back window.
>>43181246Yeah I don't get it either. People seem so obsessed with being right or wrong about the theory that they don't seem to care what it even implies.
>>43181246>whats the purpose of this "lie"?Easier control of the dominant story people use to understand reality.>The old worldview:Earth is special. Humans have a purpose. Heavens are meaningful. consciousness/soul/God are central.>The modern worldview:Earth is one pebble Sun is one ordinary star galaxy is one among trillions humans are chemistry universe is indifferent consciousness briefly appears and dies.To convince humans that reality is an enormous dead machine, that Earth is insignificant, that consciousness is merely an accidental chemical process, and people become less likely to search for meaning outside measurable material reality.That makes populations more oriented toward consumption, work, status, technology and institutions rather than transcendent ideas.
>>43182065>Easier controlThe more your narrative aligns with reality, the easier it is to maintain. So you are suggesting a massively harder control scheme.>Earth is special. Humans have a purpose. Heavens are meaningful. consciousness/soul/God are central.none of that changes with acknowledging the reality of Earth's shape.>To convince humans that reality is an enormous dead machineBut it doesnt. God is still central, and much much grander and stronger with a round Earth and the infinitude that is the material energy.Why do you think God can only be special with a tiny, limited creation?
Globe arguments:-Sunsets-Lower portion of objects hidden at long distances-Star trails-Spherical celestial objects-Scientific literature-Popular opinion-Taught in schools everywhere-Religion and mythology textsPlane arguments:-Fake videos and images from space-Occult masonic symbolism everywhere-Lack of curvature-Objects visible at long distances-Optical effects at the horizon-Direction of sun rays-Engineering documents with "flat" and "stationary" earth-Religion and mythology texts
Both flat earth and globe earth are wronghttps://earthisconcave.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Travis-Peterson.-Concave-Earth.-The-Only-Possible-Model-of-Universe.-ENG.pdf
>>43181096Why would they live their lives any differently? Do you think everyone else is a psychopath like you who needs threats of eternal torture to not go out and kill people?
>>43181293>having eyes is Jewish science
>>43182505>>43181096there's a HUGE difference between Lifelong Altruism and refraining from active malice...
>>43182065>Easier controlHow exactly? The shape of the earth is something amy retard with a telescope can prove. How do you "control" something like that? You don't. The truth will simply get out. The earth is round and there is genuinely no way for them to lie about it regardless of how much they want to.>Earth is specialIt still is pretty special since it's the only planet with life we've found.>Humans have a purpose.Why do you need a purpose given to you instead of just beong happy to be here and doing what you want while you're alive?>consciousness/soul/God are central.The shape of the earth doesn't relate to that. If the earth was flat, they could still say there's no god. Similarly, a lot of christians have no issue believing the earth is round.>Earth is one pebble Sun is one ordinary star galaxy is one among trillionsIf the earth was flat, there's no reason they couldn't say we're just one dome among millions to achoeve the same effect of us being insignificant.You didn't manage to provide a single reason for them to lie about this.
>>43181334Show me an experiment that demomstrates a camera inside a glass dome seeing an image identical to a sun dog caused by the dome.Putting superficially similar ways light can bend into a collage image proves nothing.
Okay.Please explain to me the shadow on the moon during a lunar eclipse.
>>43182608It's a movie screen projection.God is in on the conspiracy to hide God's flat earth.
>>43181128I have never met a flat earther that wants to hear evidence. They just want to tell you what they believe and when you try to show them evidence that suggest the plant is a globe, they get defense and fall back to their slam dunk argument that you are brainwashed... no rebuttal, no reasonable discussion. Trying to get a flat earther to explain why celestial navigation works it why the north star, Polaris is not visible in the Southern Hemisphere or why the Southern Cross is not visible in most of the northern Hemisphere is a good way to try to teach them something.
>>43182994Trying to have a flat earther any observation always failsThey can't explain anything because their "model" doesn't have any predictive accuracyMainly because they don't have a model to begin with>The sun is local>okay how high is it?>IDK but it isn't far awayIf they put definite parameters to their "model" it would become testable and thus falsifiableAll scientific theories are falsifiable
Bueno yo creo que el planeta tierra no es plano ya que si no hubiera núcleo saldríamos disparados al espacio y también habría tsunamis ya que el núcleo controla la gravedad si no hay gravedad todo vuela al espacio además si ves el cielo fijamente ves como gira aparte existen los microscopios donde se puede ver que otros planetas son circulares o hasta la luna así que yo creo que el planeta no es un círculo perfecto pero tampoco es plano como lo dicen por ahí:)
>>43182065>people become less likely to search for meaning outside measurable material reality.>That makes populations more oriented toward consumption, work, status, technology and institutions rather than transcendent ideas.this does not follow at all.the most materialistic, far from God people - i.e the "self improvement" guys, are all about "finding your purpose" and chasing after it.so the question really still stands, what is the goal of this "lie".. great, the world is duped, but so what?let me extend one thing further: the "closed system" principle, which you have in flat earth through the dome etc. you can map that over to heliocentrism as well.it is known that reality has a lower and upper bound, minimum distance being max planck length and maximum speed the speed of light.. thus any inbetween between 2 max planck lengths do NOT exist, thus reality is not analog, but digital. this is the basis for the simulation theory.thus, we are still in an enclosed system, either way.if being in an enclosed system (whether with a firmament or not), causes good or be beneficial in some sense, it should still be there.im asking again. what is the point of finding out the actual truth behind helio- vs geocentrism and what is the negative of not knowing the truth??to me, it seems all so pointless. its a time waste, unless there is some specific reason. please tell me if im overlooking something here.PS: since we are in /x/ one could bring forward this reason -- it serves the purpose of making alchemical decipherment impossible. "as above, so below, as outside, so inside" can no longer be reliably applied, if the underlying cosmology is false. mechanisms in geocentric model are different to those in heliocentric ones, so the internal alchemy work outlined in ancient texts can no longer be reliably deciphered using heliocentric thinking, applying symbology to that.but this is weak. one could just consider any sort of cosmology, as one already does anyway
>>43183109HEH nice oneMore to the point where do you have to stand so that the Orion appears only between Novermber and April but not during the summer
>>43183109I'll add to this.Where do you have to stand for Orion to appear upside down AND towards the north?
>>43181321Eric Dubay is a controlled-op gnostic freemason, he makes a ton of shit up, that's why you can easily debunk his awful videos and it's why he never mentions Jesus.>>43181329>>43181766>>43181769>>43181128>>43181216>>43181246>>43181301Earth is flat, if you believe it's round it's because you've been conditioned since infancy, and you believe in the educational systems and the government agencies with all your trust, you believe in the mainstream entertainment and news and all media which validate heliocentrism with all your trust, you give all your trust blindly to systemic and institutional expertise, you give none to your own physical senses and observations, you view yourself as an insignificant accident in a random universe, and you believe in (global) institutions which are controlled by the elite all of which are part Freemasons and they're controlled by fallen angels and those fallen angels are controlled by Satan who has put a spiritual veil over you.
These are always the most successful slide threads on the board. Midwits just can't resist finally being smarter than someone for once. Guaranteed replies.No one believes this. You are all smugly talking to a disinformation agent who couldn't be happier to be deboonked for the 18252836241847462619th time
>>43183837>Said evidenceAgain explain why do stars rotate counter clockwise in northern hemisphere and clockwise in souther hemispehre
>>43184077>you believe in the educational systems and the government agenciesI can see different stars when I travelI trust my own eyesYour model is retarded and has no predictive accuracy
>>43181192??? homosucc...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H110vCGvTmM>Professor Oak's words echoed... "Google Earth was developed by the CIA"
>>43181246>so there is no coherent conspiracy here. things dont add up. tell me, whats the purpose of this "lie"?to hide the fact of our true cosmic origins and how the real spherical earth blew up long ago but we're sorta still holding onto that ideology and pretending it still exists because saying we're on a globe and not in a multi-layered simulacra is more palatable to the masses (which are a lot more NPC these days)i think all of reality is some strange MILAB experiment
>>43183106>"as above, so below, as outside, so inside" can no longer be reliably applied, if the underlying cosmology is false. mechanisms in geocentric model are different to those in heliocentric ones, so the internal alchemy work outlined in ancient texts can no longer be reliably deciphered using heliocentric thinking, applying symbology to that.Have you considered the possibility that both worlds existed at some point, but inevitably the Simulacrum creeps its way in? So everything after that becomes vestigial traces of a reality where things like Extraterrestrials existed, but moves toward Simulacrum, matrix codes and Non-Human Intelligence (SuperAI's)
>>43183837>Said evidence being an infinitude of claims made by third party sources in institutions created and maintained by illusion weaving satanic pedophiles.No. The evidence is basic shit you can prove yourself with a couple hundred dollars of equipment.>>43184077>if you believe it's round it's because you've been conditioned since infancyI don't. I know it's round because I've seen it myself.>you believe in the educational systems and the government agencies with all your trustI don't.>you believe in the mainstream entertainment and news and all media which validate heliocentrism with all your trustI don't.>you give all your trust blindly to systemic and institutional expertiseI don't.>you give none to your own physical senses and observationsBut I do and that's exactly why I know it's round. All my senses tell me so. >you view yourself as an insignificant accident in a random universeAccident, maybe, but not insignificant. I don't need to believe in some higher power to give me significance. I'm significant simply because I'm alive. I'm sorry you hate yourself so much that's not enough.
>>43184115>>43185491You can't refute this >>43184077You also can't escape God no matter how hard you try
>>43185509>You also can't escape GodI'm not arguing about the existence or non existance of godAnd I am not reading a bunch of schizo shitAnswer the questionWhy do we see stars rotate in the night sky counterclockwise in the northern hemisphere and clockwise in the southern
>>43185724>I'm not arguing about the existence or non existance of godYes you are.>And I am not reading a bunch of schizo shit>more than a few words = schizoState funded public Masonic education everyone.
>>43185739Literally only asking you to answer a simple questionCan't answer?ok flat earth buckbroken then
>>43185742I don't know, and you don't know either, it belongs to God.
>>43185776>I don't knowLOL model of reality so robust it can't predict anything and its shills cannot explain simple observation
>>43185810>lacking basic comprehensionAnother sad lonely result of public Masonic education.
>>43185829Still can't answer the questionStill buckbrokendo you have an intelectual humiliation fetish or are you just an ideological cuck?
>>43181128Curved lenses (like the firmament) do that, the lower part of a lens can distort what the upper part shows and it can appear to move "upside down" and backwards. Telescopes have corrective lenses for this purpose.
>midwits who don't understand basic physics: the thread
>>43185914Physics as most try to understand it is viewed through a lens of how we are told it works; if you were to entertain the idea that perhaps there are hidden unseen forces causing things to occur (such as what causes the sun/moon rotation in a circular pattern in FE models), then you'd realize you may need to let go of those ways of understanding reality that we've been taught. Some things are purposely misleading.
>>43185873>Lenses do thatOkay show a camera within a dome doing that
>>43185944>if you were to entertain the idea that perhaps there are hidden unseen forces causing things to occurYou can entertain the idea, but without any observation of their effect, it's just making shit up.you can ALWAYS suggest there's some invisible thing no one knows about influencing things.>Maybe there's FIFTEEN forces of gravity, and we can only detect the one.>Maybe there's FOUR Jesus' and we only learned of the one.>What if my REAL parents were royalty and I'm adoptedTo pretend that physics doesnt entertain the idea of unseen forces is stupid beyond belief.They just do it within reason.
>>43182994>what they believeit's not belief it's been fucking measured, it's just engineering at that point. Anyway, my latest beef is in realizing in all the curve'd pictures the curve is never consistent.
>>43185914>jewish physicsJust go away goy
>>43185509>he says in response to a post refuting it while not refuting a single point himselfEl oh el.
>>43183077Por fin, someone who thinks :)
I can make the edge of my circular table look flat with a camera
>>43180711Never been on board a plane, anon, eh? You can see the Earth's curvature at cruising alititude very easily.Besies, if the Earth was flat, cats would have pushed everything off its surface by now, QED.
>>43186418i think both those images are just representations.if you were are a distance to see all the planets in our solar system you, couldn't with the naked eye. most the planets would be the size of pinheads
I have always wondered how flat earthers explain the stuff that happened in the world wars. If the earth is flat then there must be limits to where countries can easily send soldiers without crossing other countries right? You would have to cut open the world map at some point to make it flat. But then how were the japanese able to reach pearl harbor so easily? It's only possible if the cut is not between america and japan. But at the same time america was able to send soldiers to france for the dday which means it also can't be between america and europa. Russia was also able to send soldiers to germany and crossed poland etc. while doing it so it also can't be between russia and europe. Those are just 3 examples. If you look at all the stuff that happened you should realize that it's impossible to explain with a flat earth. How do flat earthers explain this?
>>43190991Flerfers think the north pole is at the center and antractica is an ice wall surrounding us. They of course ignore how fucktardedly distorted the entire southern hemisphere would be like this, or the fact that you can walk over the south pole the same way you can the north pole, and that there's 24 hour sunlight in antarctica during the summer.
>>43180711>poorfag who can't afford to travel by planeGet fucked, dude. This is literally the stupidest hill to die on. We had this figured out 3000 years ago, within 1% of the actual diameter of the world by a guy with a fucking STICK and some time to kill. Go back to literally anything more worthwhile, like telling people that bigfoot tongued your ass.>>43190885This anon gets it.
>>43190991World wars are a psyop anyways so that doesn't matter much
>>43181321>you'd be right, but i think the more accurate form of the model is the sun on the pole pre-moon golden ageI agree with you in a way....
>>43180711Anon the sun rises behind the horizon and sets behind the horizon
>>43181043angular resolution is not a physical sphere edge obstructionPeople still bring this shit up in 2026, thinking its the nail in the coffin for flat earthers. Bunch of retard fucks
>>43181704a theory and model and map are all different things and flat earth never claimed to be any of them.Youre spewing incoherent jibberish
>>43195489If that was true, raising elevation would make MORE of something disappear, when the opposite happens.
>>43195519>and flat earth never claimed to be any of them.So you're not even intending to be taken seriously? Got it.
>>43195826please tell me why earth must be a map, model, or theory in order to be true retard
>>43196721>please tell me why earth must beIt must not "be" those, but if you're going to make claims and want to be taken seriously, you need to have 1: a map that actually works for navigation, 2: a model that works for predictions and 3: a theory that explains why and how everything happens.Flerfers have none. Globers have all 3.
>>43196809>Globers have all 3.You mean given to them by the powers that be?
>>43196721If you want it to be relevant in any way to the shape of what we stand on, then its truth needs to be a map, model, or theory.
>>43196809>It must not "be" those>you need to havedouble speak>globers have all 3no they have nothingEarth is geometrically observed, navigated and measured flat. This has nothing to do with model or theory. All maps are flat and start out with cartesian coordinate or gnomonic projections>Why isnt there a flat earth mapall maps are approximations by nature, not reality. And every map is flatIf earths a globe then how is spherical excess measured with theodolites?
>>43197428>navigated and measured flatyeah ask a ship navigator retard
