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What is the esoteric/occult implication of murder? Why did God choose the first murderer to build the first city and found civilization?
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>>43207200
His brother was dead so he couldn't build a city, I heard Adam and Eve had other children though so I'm not sure why he didn't choose one of them
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>>43207209
>so I'm not sure why he didn't choose one of them
Obviously he specifically wanted Cain
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>>43207200
Pride is the opposite of perfection
The garden of Eden was perfection
Taking our tools to things is slop that
appeases people for a little while and then
they have to move on taking more from
the original base that they cant create.
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>>43207261
Incredible, nothing in your post has to do with the question I asked
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>>43207226
Gemini says that Cain wasn't commanded to build the a city, he just built one after being exiled in the Land of Nod. I never understood why he built a city though it could've been to compensate in some way for the land being cursed. I wonder if the land they were in before was the Kush valley
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>>43207272
Think more about it
Tearing perfection apart to create an
idealized society is more corruption in tool use.
That was the result of the serpent convincing
Adam and Eve to eat the fruit; hence childbirth as a curse.
Freewill is intact
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>>43207321
>[verbal diarrhea]
Why did God specifically choose to make the first murderer the father of human civilization? He is an omniscient being so it was a completely deliberate choice
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>>43207317
>Gemini says that Cain wasn't commanded to build the a city
He didn't need to be commanded to, God knew he would.
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>>43207200
Blood makes the grass grow.
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>>43207344
Boy howdy friend youre going to have to think
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>>43207358
>chrigger threatening vagueposting

I know all about hell
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>>43207365
What?
Im not vague posting
Youre going to have to take mushrooms
and re read what I said or something
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>>43207413
I've taken mushrooms
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>>43207200
it's an allegory, genius
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>>43207422
I was kidding but pride is in the way
For all of us thats what nullifies our ability to think

I do think either mushrooms or thc would help though
But there is the pride gauntlet to get through
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>>43207200
>Why did God choose the first murderer to build the first city and found civilization?
You need someone willing to take human life to be a ruler. A person like Abel is not violent therefore he would never be able to trap people inside a city like we are trapped by by the descendants of Cain. It's all a big joke. God needs killers to extract the meat of the sheep?
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>>43207317
It's like this. He was a bastard who did not want to work the land. He did reason it would be better to enslave other people to work for him and make them pay taxes to live in his city and be "protect" inside its walls. It's all a big manipulation tactics. Cain was no dumb. Cain was scum. Cain was the first slave ownder and the first one to make people pay taxes. Fuck him! I hate him! FUck that shit! Fuck God for protecting him! God is the worst. Protected the fucking killer who was the first slave owner! Why do christians do this, keep saying that God is good? What a lie!
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>>43207209
>I heard Adam and Eve had other children though
Yes, Seth who we are all descended from (the line of Cain mostly ended with the flood. (really depends if the wives if the wives of Noah's son were descendants of Cain or not) however the male line of Cain ended.
>>43207200
>>43207226
There is a difference between God permitting something and God approving of it, and also God went pretty easy on Cain in general, protecting him from being murdered in retaliation and such
According to St. Augustine Cain symbolizes the earthly city, attached to worldly possession, power and earthly glory.
Abel symbolizes City of God, whose citizens are ultimately oriented towards God rather than the world.
So no wonder the founder of the earthly city was a murderer of his own brother.
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>>43207640
sons*
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>>43207200
Civilization itself is a form of murder
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>>43207728
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>>43207640
>There is a difference between God permitting something and God approving of it
Special Pleading Falacy.

>According to St. Augustine...
Argumentum Ad Verecundiam, a.k.a. appealing to authority.

>So no wonder the founder of the earthly city was a murderer of his own brother.
Post Hoc falacy.

>and also God went pretty easy on Cain in general, protecting him from being murdered in retaliation and such
Cherry Picking falacy.

You are way out of our league, buddy. Unreal. You mistake your personal world view and opinions with facts lol Many such cases. You are a sheep, a golem. lol Thanks for the exercise.
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>>43207749
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>>43207640
>There is a difference between God permitting something and God approving of it

If you're a truly omnipotent being, no, there isn't. I know you don't get it
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>>43207588
>God needs killers to extract the meat of the sheep?
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>>43207768
Why are there only nitwit pseuds in this thread incapable of common discourse?
Better yet go back to sucking on your moms' tit
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>>43207786
We're not midwits, you are lacking wit. A neo luddite. Christcucks should be banned from participating in society
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>>43207793
May your mother curse Shiva on her dying breath
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>>43207800
I hate hindoos too
>everyone who isnt in my religion is a jew or Indian
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>>43207200
You don't have security clearance for this level of esotericism. Sorry fren
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>>43207809
800 million of them on the web, pal. Enteriably reasonable to assume so
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>>43207749
>Can't even spell fallacy
Lmao
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>>43207871
>haha I almost had to engage with your point but I see you made a typo, tough luck pal
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>>43207897
What point? Misapplying a fallacy is itself a misuse of logic and therefore a fallacy.
You may now checkmark my post and humble yourself before me.
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>>43207200
WHAT THE FUCK KIND OF QUESTION IS THAT?


more like why did that NIGGER cain choose to MURDER his brother?

wtf

thats original sin

.................................................killing people is evil
and no one ever had to be killed or kill another human on purpose, that's inherent in free will. we could have had 0 wars, murders, child torturers, etc. GG
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>>43207200
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>>43207200
an act of repentance.
if you kill you must also build back what one has taken.

oldest rule of hunters.
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>>43207200
They're modes of being. The agrarian had to kill the nomad for security of civilization. Stop taking these stories so literally they don't make an actual depiction of literal history. It's the evolution of consciousness.
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>>43207604
Christians confusing the egotistical blood-hungry Yaldabaoth with the unknown, transcendent god as usual.



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