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Is it time to accept that Caucasus wrestlers have debunked striking forever?
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All they've done is demonstrate how dumb the octagon is
They literally just push people into the wall, it's a good strategy but it only works because of the weird environment the cage creates
If it was in a normal ring or an open mat the whole thing falls apart like a house of cards

By the way this was always the point of the cage, remember UFC was originally designed to be a gracie jiujitsu commercial, they designed it to aid their fighting style which at that time was the same. Bum rush the legs and pin against the wall. Watch grecie challenge videos and you'll see that's what they do

Then the meta shifted and now that gay boring lay and pray shit is back again
What's old is new again, history doesn't repeat but it rhymes

This will be the death of the UFC though
The brand is already in decline and now you have champions that just rear body lock and run the clock, nobody is gonna watch this shit
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>>240428
Should ufc bring pride rules back?
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>>240455
Would be a big help
That low single from way outside is only viable because he's immune to getting punted in the mouth
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>>240456
They need to being yellow cards back to fuck with their earning and allow knees to the face when they go for mindless takedowns with no way of punish them.
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>>240427
They've also made the sport boring as fuck. The only entertaining Dagestani is Makhachev and he isn't beating Jack.
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Christ will return and they will pay their debts in the end
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>>240427
>debunked striking
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>>240427
Ground game is for when you can afford to be on the ground, and that's not usually the case in the real world where friends and rando's will stomp your head in while you're trying to roll around on the ground. You need to have skill in both stand up and ground fighting.
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>>240682
you can throw people instead of rolling on the ground, you know
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>>240682
In a way. But its for sports because it relies on both parties following the rules.

You cant grapple me if I just crush your balls or gouge your eyes.
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>>240471
>allow knees to the face when they go for mindless takedown
Arent those already allowed?
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>>240427
There's only 3 of them that are champs right now and they've all lost before except Khamzat, who's nearly lost.
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>>240428
>strikerfag copes
>>240625
this nigger gets it
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kumshot was insufferable Saturday. He should not be champion because that wasn’t fucking fighting, ddp smiling like a retard the whole merry way too. and that little dicksuckle arman, god I would love to just kick him square in the balls from behind the arrogant fuck.
Merab and ilia are way more interesting than the dagi fucks. even if merab still has similarities to them, and i get how some people can find him boring, his judo is pure pottery. I like sandhagen but he’s got no chance
Khabib is gay for not fighting Tony but it was interesting seeing a lighter guy do a sort of Cain v style no doubt when I first watched him…. Then it’s like ok dude… the same thing each fight. Islam is a little better but him not fighting ilia goes to show how bullshit ufc is. Fuck umar that quick little faggot I’m glad merab raped his soul into humiliation, if muslims are capable
Ank seems like a chill guy, I hope Alex gives him a seizure with the first punch of the first round tho.

SPIDER IS THE GOAT
I HOPE TOM VORES GANE IN THEIR OCTOBER FIGHT
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They didn't debunk anything, they are simply well-rounded in a promotion where most of the top fighters are pure kickboxers whose grappling skill extends to scrambles to standing, two chokes and desperation armbar attempts
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>>240783
>you can throw people instead of rolling on the ground, you know
Right, my point is that stand up fighting should be trained as should ground work for real world situations, and while ground work is arguably better for competition, it's usually the last resort for non-competition defense.
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>>240427
All they have demonstrated is that people who practice more at a high level will usually win more
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MMA rules but on a basketball court and no gloves or wraps. See what happens.

Maybe a lot more muay thai kicks and elbows and knees?
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>>242706
You should check out King of the Streets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4w4WY2fx7A
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>>242708
That's exactly what happens. It becomes mainly kickboxing


But the nerds here will say KOTS fighters are "untrained thugs" lmfao
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>This is real fighting! We are so fucking tough noone can beat our dudes barehanded
If it's real then have no rules
Finger grabs, eye gouges, soccer kicks, aim for spine and throat, fucking SPITTING, throwing you out the cage. All that
>We need rules because we need to protect or fighters (it'll cost us medical aid money and star promotions. They only have 2 eyes lmao)
Then spitting, grabbing the cage, knees with 3 points down, Speedos, uniforms, stomps, etc. Should be fine. All bare knuckle. We palm strike now.
>Noone wants to see that, that looks savage or taints the looks and brand. Le noble warrior (money bro. We sell gloves and shit)
So it's a sport
>Of course. We aren't street fighters.
>That's why we do rounds, TKO, time limits. It keeps it fast and ends in time. Very entertaining and good for the kids.
>But we want to keep it as close to the real thing we can. While keeping the money I mean the fighters wellbeing in mind
>But keep it fair for grapplers. We are MIXED martial arts.
Then why count control time? Why give points for ground and standing control time if we all know it's got no actual benefits in a real fight (if you tire me and I kill you I win. If my friends come over I win. If you CAN'T submit me or knock me out you DON'T win.) and no benefit in a timed match that turns boring when our fighters just hug for 15 minutes? We can count take downs and slams even if they do little in a match because IRL you break your shit on concrete (Also because it's fun, just like striking). Then we countdown a minute of ground/stand control and then we stand/separate fighters. It's fast, it's active. Maybe the one that takes you down has to stand up quick or it costs him a point after 1:30 minutes. This also simulates my friend kicking him in the head AND makes ground game fun and explosive switching speeds and dominance in a second.
>This isn't the olympics faggot. This is real life!! (BJJ money. We invested in bjj. Also Slav and Arab money.)
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>>242741
what the fuck are you rambling about you schizo
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>>242745
Idk maybe read better bro
That does the trick
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>>240471
grounded knees benefit grapplers
>grounded knees benefit grapplers
grounded knees benefit grapplers
>grounded knees benefit grapplers
grounded knees benefit grapplers
>grounded knees benefit grapplers
grounded knees benefit grapplers
>grounded knees benefit grapplers
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>>242909
And that's a good thing. People liked Khabib even though he's a grappler because he would maul people with ground and pound.

Grounded knees = more finishes for everyone = more viewership.



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