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>>256641>Threadly QuestionWhat is your worst buyer's remorse from an airsoft product?
Buying exclusively realistic shell-ejecting guns is suffering
>>256725This Umarex lever gun has worked pretty well for me, though I'd never take it to a game, I have a revolver that uses shells, I might consider taking that to a game though, since it shoots pretty straight.
>>256641That fucking F2000 is so sexy I need one they are impossible to find
>>256733Looks like DE are going to release a gbbr version in the near future.
>>256738THAT WOULD BE SOO GOOD I WOULD DIE THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD NEWS
Any recommendations for an entry-level M4 solely for LARPslop? I barely play airsoft but I really wanted to kit out an M4 solely for the aesthetics. I already have a higher-end AK for performance, so I'm not worried about having a "pea shooter" considering how extensive (and expensive) the aftermarket is for the M4 platform.
>>256765Anything by Specna
>>256644Pic related, I got it then shortly after LCT announced their HK33, full steel and all that. The Classic Army shoots really well, but holy shit its got the worst plastic furniture I've ever seen, super creaky and flexible, it feels terrible in the hands. I replaced the furniture with LCT stuff so it's better now, but I may get rid and just get the new VFC gbb, can't really justify having an aeg and gbb of the same gun.
>>256765AEG or GBBR? Specna or E&C for the former, VFC for the latter.
>>256768VFC ARs aren't exactly entry level priced. That would be a Double Eagle N4
>>256766>>256768>$125 for the Specna Arms FLEX Gen.2 Series M4this is perfect, thank you anons.
>>256765>>256766Do NOT listen to this anon. For fuck sakes STOP recommending Specna to beginners. The motor is literally held in place by thin plastic tension tabs inside the grip. No solid retention plate. Just springy plastic pushing outward and hoping material fatigue never happens. That plastic is under constant stress, and it loses tension. And when it does, your motor height shifts. The entire drivetrain depends on consistent engagement of teeth. If it so much as shifts a single CM you get noise and eventually stripped gears. If you are new, buy something mechanically sane with nicer metal externals for the same or cheaper. CYMA. E&C. I will concede it may have made sense 6-7 years ago when it was the go to option for a gun that came with a MOSFET pre installed.
>>256770Do you see the clear plastic shrink wrap tubing covering the wires in the stock in the final image of the product posting on evike? If you crumple it they can disconnect.Not sure if that model has the aforementioned issue with cap on bottom of grip being held in by thin plastic tabs, But please FFS Do not buy from Specna.The products they sell are not manufactured in house by them meaning QC is all over the place.
>>256769True, but I heard they're compatible with real AR stuff, so perhaps they have more aftermarket parts.
>>256771Yea buy a cyma where the mosfet kills itself after one day. Brainlet
>>256778Mosfets are for pussies anyway, if you're not rawdogging your trigger contacts with a 14.8 lipo, can you really say that you're truly alive?
>>256778See where the clear tubing where the mosfet connects to the rest of wiring? It is crimped on with shitty non shrink tubing intended to insulate wire from water, not a proper solder contact. It can and will fuck up.
>>256778Picrel
imagine namefagging in a thread that's so slow it lasts 3-4 monthsBuying a specna as we speak
>>256782>3-4 monthsLast thread was alive for over a year, anon.
>>256783Was made I July so about 8 months but yea i forgot it was that long
>>256486honestly i could write multiple 2000 char posts about getting into airsoft and all the pitfalls but i think to sum up1) if you're mainly interested in playing tag with BBs then yeah, best thing to do is to show up local fields in gym clothes and use a rental to figure out if you like the hobby. some fields and event runners are just ass so don't be discouraged if you don't like playing airsoft on the first field you try it on. it's worth driving an extra 30 minutes to get to an actually good game field.if you are mainly interested in airsoft for the replica or gear autism, then i would not even bother with the gym clothes + rental stage. in such case, get a gun you really think seems cool and show up to the field with that. or just stay home. if you just enjoy plinking with a gas blowback rifle in your back yard then do that. i honestly think the actual game part of airsoft is often its weak link. for me, i like the guns and dressup but actually playing airsoft is a crapshoot. 50% of the time it's mid, 25% of the time it's bad and 25% of the time it's great.2) don't waste your money on crap. this is a very wide topic that you frankly can't get good information on online. honestly generally i would asking here before making any major purchase. or if you have big boy money to spend on this hobby then you can just throw money at random shit and see how it goes>>256771i've never heard of this before except in an earlier airsoft thread here. don't specnas come in a variety of pistol grips and OEMs too? the ONE series is E&C rebrands afaik. i mean even if this applied to every specna pistol grip somehow, you could still probably swap it out if it becomes an issue, because it is an M4 platform after all.i don't doubt the ones you had your hands on sucked but it would be strange to me if it applied to the brand in general. like funny enough the worst built gun i have (F2000) and the best built gun i have (M14 EBR) are both made by G&G
>>256765>>256768i was looking for M27s earlier and i read the externals for AR style guns goes VFC > E&C > Specna (dytac). however E&C and especially VFC would need tinkering to not be barebones as fuckthat said i've never had my hands on any of these guns so i wouldn't really know
>>256791>if you are mainly interested in airsoft for the replica or gear autism, then i would not even bother with the gym clothes + rental stage. in such case, get a gun you really think seems cool and show up to the field with that.I did exactly this. As soon as I discovered airsoft I knew it was the hobby for me and what gun and kit I wanted so I bought it all before my frist game. Still own the gun 14 years later.The only difference now from when I started is that everyone runs 11.1v mosfets or HPA at the field. I started to feel disadvantaged running my 7.2v batteries.
>>256799Ive never noticed a problem with this (HPA and mosfet vs stock), it might be because i got lucky and got a midas touched gun from CYMA (It was one of their cheapass plastic underfolder 47s) that shot straight to a good 40-60m somehow, and 50/50 odds at 70m (picrel 45m), and now i still get okay shots from their full metal aks74u>>256771agree, beginners should get 1. something they think looks cool af 2. that is full metal (if budget allows) 3. that is cheap to repair, however the guy specifically did say that he just wants something for the looks, so, whatever he wants really, even a springer would probably be fine))))
>>256644That would have to either be the GHK AKM or WE Thompson. I despise GHK since buying that piece of dogshit. Everyone at the time was glazing that gay company and I got baited in. This trash only somewhat worked when I was testing it at home. Whenever I took it outside it instantly kept shitting itself. I am still omega mad because it was really expensive compared to everything else I could've gotten then. With the WE I knew what I was getting myself into but it was still worse than I anticipated. Gun kept literally eating itself from the inside and all five mags I had for the gun started leaking for no reason at all. Performance was subpar also but I could've dealt with that if it wasn't for the gun actively killing itself and the mags.
>>256644TM MWS. Not that it was bad per se but I was disappointed when I opened the box. I had many airsoft replicas before it so I was expecting something special but when I opened the box and first saw it I thought I got sent a Specna Arms or something. It had so few steel externals and felt cheap. Glad I had a lot of external parts for it so I never fielded it stock but ended up selling it 2 years later. It never lived up to the hype for me. I really hated the hop on it. It was like one click was underhopping and the next one was way overhopping. I had to try a lot of different hop nubs and rubbers to make it shoot well. Not the worst replica I had by far but still it pops to my head whenever somebody asks what my biggest buyer's remorse was
>>256802What did you replace it with?
>>256807VFC V3 M16
>>256733the cybergun F2000s (both OEMs) are quite available here in europe at least. getting the handguard is an issue though. i think they're losing 150€ if you even find one. the M-trigger guys make a 3d printed one at least thoughi'd never put an angled foregrip on mine though. they feel super uncomfortable except for c-clamping, which you can't do with the f2000 since it's a chonker
>>256819>i think they're losing 150€ if you even find oneidk why i wrote losing there lol nvm that
is jb weld good enough for repairing a snapped pistol hammer or should I drill a pin in there as well?
>>256883Probably best just to buy a replacement. But if no other option, JB weld and pin it, though I can't imagine it will survive that long.
Why would anyone get an aeg when gbb exist
>>257188Please shut the fuck up.t. GBB user.
>>257188money, practicality? Most people who play airsoft don't even know how to handle a real gun or care enough about guns in general which is baffling to me. Like what draws people to this hobby if they don't like guns?t. euroid
>>257188Why are gbb users generally so insufferable? Seemingly also have more trannies than speedsofters do
>>257194No, I don't think I will. >>257212You didn't answer the question. >>257210They cost about the same. Mags are just a bit more expensive but that's it.
>>257212HRC is the only place with troons? Think that's a westoid problem
>>257214you can get a decent AEG for 250 jewros and mags cost 10 jewros. A decent GBBR is at least 500 and mags are 50 a pop
why do people cry about headshots? And why is it always britbongs despite having low joule rules
>>257220it makes ouchy :(
>>257188I just don't->Chucks a leaky magazine back into the bag-know why more people->Chucks another leaky magazine back into the bag-aren't buying gbbs.>Chucks another leaky magazine back into the bag
>>257239you're the boomer fudd of the airsoft world
>>257239kek, though aegs are wonky as fuck and prone to eating themselves, so glass houses and all that.
>>257188Price, I can get an entry-level AEG for $200-300CAD and the bare essentials to game it properly for another $50-100CAD while no matter what, getting into GBBRs would take something like $700-800CAD minimum and be a bit more finicky even if they're ultimately cooler and more fun guns to handle
>>257188I like NBB better. They are quiet, use barely any gas, reliable because they are mechanically simple and usually cheaper. Had this ancient Y&P M9 NBB for over a decade and it refuses to die.
>>257417NBBs are definitely niche (especially in NA, where the selection of ones that aren't abysmal dogshit designed to only handle like 500 rounds is extremely slim) but I personally like the Mk23-style ones that let you cock the hammer for a more precise single shot, kinda like a mag-fed DA/SA revolver (also obviously lets you slap a foam-stuffed can on the end for peak silence)
>>257423The MK23 NBBs are beast! I've had the Y&P, TM and Novritsch MK23s and they all had insane range, accuracy and stealth. I kinda want to get another one, however the M9's size is just perfect for me. The MK23 is a bit much for my thin smol hands.
>>257426you could always try a carbine kit for better secret snipping
>>257417>>257423>>257426>>257428where's the fun in that? It's HPA without the hose
>>257432it's very quiet, entirely self-contained and in the case of upgradeable DA/SA models like the Mk23 is capable of some damn fine precision at range with minimal investmentI like GBBs but recognize the appeal of NBBs from a gameplay perspective
>was going to get an MK46 to run as an LMG before realize i just don't have what it takes to maintain and run a proper machinegun>another player also convinces it's just a bad fit for my chaotic playstyle (push early to a good vantage point then snipe the enemy at range, play around objectives and engage in close combat, do wide flanking runs)>usually have to play pick 2 out of 3 depending on which class of gun i run>eureka moment>rules would allow running a lighter, select-fire support gun and stick a bipod and an LPVO on top of it, and stick to rifle energy limits>despite lower muzzle energy, could basically do DMR things with it thanks to full auto bursts at range>could CQC with it because no MED on semithis is just my powergaming instinct at heart but good lord now i want to do this so badly. could run a golden eagle MCR or an M27 for it. funny enough it would match the M27's use case in real life so it doesn't feel too much like cheating to do
I know you guys will probably hate it kek, but I'm pretty satisfied. This isn't for me but for a friend of mine that wanted it. If I didn't already have the WE Apache I'd probably print one for myself.
>>257452Oh Yea ignore the end being tan I had to reprint it because It was baffle striking the threads to pieces before I swapped to a 250mm barrel. And I ran out of paint
>>257453I might have to edit the STL file or just cut an indent so you could lock the charging handle when swapping mags i think that would be pretty cool
>>257451get an M27. That other thing looks like faggot shit
>>257452>>257454get an actual GBBR, dipshit
>>257457I do, multiple in fact.
>>257460proofs?
>>257456you know i had trouble verbalizing my sentiment why i'd prefer the m27 but i think you nailed itthe only reason i was looking at the MCR was because it replicates a real belt fed even if gay looking. i think the krytec trident seems like the better mcr-lookalike gun but afaik it's an OC donut steel and not a real replica
>>257426what holster are you running? only thing I can find for these are 3d printed ones that go on or into the trigger guard.
>>257432>It's HPA without the hoseyou just described the perfect gun bro
>>257465tried HPA before and didn't like it. It's the same as clicking a mouse. No fun at all
>>257451>no MED on semiThat sounds very AIDS.
>>257464That's the Safariland STX Tactical holster, it stays on the same part of your thigh and is easy to draw from. I kinda regret pawning that MK23 setup off because the holster is discontinued now and fetches 300 to 400 dollars on eBay.>>257428I played against this one dude who had a MK23 carbine paired to a thermal scope and that thing was literally predator vision at night. Just a nifty lil pistol carbine.
>>257469ah, that sucks. I will still have to use 3d printed ones or universal fabric ones like one I have now.
>>257468i didnt explain it right, the way it works is >no MED up to 1.7J at semi>10m MED at 2.0J>15m MED at 2.25J etc.>always 10m MED for any kind of full auto (basically only relevant for LMG role)basically setting a support role gun to fire at 1.7J would mean i could engage at 0 MED with semi and also use full auto at longer ranges. that's kind of the whole "powergaming" thing i was trying to get at
>>257471>no MED up to 1.7J at semiThat is still extremely AIDS because that's way more power than necessary at short ranges and it can actually do some damage if a retard does retarded things.
>>257473i would agree. i ran a different gun at like 1.65J to plink at people at long range, and it felt pretty gnarly to actually use it at like 5-10m range even if it was technically allowed. i ended up using a sidearm with it when i knew i'd be engaging at close range. it's not too bad if you have time to line up a center mass shot, but my field is bad about having tons of blind corners for people to play peekaboo with as you push up, so the options are to either risk hitting someone in the face/optic or get fragged.i'd mainly want the gun to have no MED rule so i could use my own judgment whether i want to use my sidearm or not. if i'm just running around and taking aimed shots at people's gear and then immediately switching over to shoot at other players that are farther away, i'd like to be using just 1 gun for it>retard does retarded things.the last time i played, i forgot something and went back to spawn to get it, and on my way back i had>walking with both arms up, waving>gun slung on my back>wearing my team's armbandsand STILL one of my teammates 3 tapped me in the fucking forehead from like 10m away. god damn lol. kinda my fault for coming from the enemy's direction but that doesn't really explain the 3x headshot part
>>257473>That is still extremely AIDSHaving strict MED rules is actually fucking AIDS. In my country, pretty much every field has some variation of a 0.1J*meter=MED rule (so 1.7J is 17m MED) for everything over 1 Joule and some fields have it for EVERYTHING. It is pure cancer because it severely restricts your ability to play aggressively, makes a pistol practically mandatory, and always leads to arguments because it's also impossible to enforce.>Plan to storm a building.>Draw pistol, because I know the enemy will be in your face, putting myself at a disadvantage. >Surprise the enemy and they shoot me with 2J up close, because they didn't have time to draw a Pistol.>Can't really blame them for that, but if I had my rifle up, I could've probably aimed faster.Or in Woodland during summer, when the vegetation is so dense you're already within MED range by the time you see the enemy, but you still need the extra power and capacity of your rifle to cut through the vegetation. Nobody draws a pistol there, and you're basically forced to break the rules. Sometimes everyone is cool with it, and sometimes some pussy makes a scene. I hate it.A 1.7J no MED limit is a good compromise, because it's still good enough for most outdoor ranges, so you give people an incentive to not max out the field limit, and doesn't hurt that much up close. I took a 2J hit on the nose last game, and while it did draw blood, it only hurt for about a minute and it's already fully healed. I would drop the 10m MED at 2.0J and just leave 15m MED from 1.7J to 2.25J, to make the incentive even bigger.>retard does retarded thingsThey're still going to be retards no matter what. Stricter rules don't stop people who already don't care about them. But looser rules give people who aren't retards some room to breathe and play. With our current rules, I'm basically forced to break them at times, so I just "house rule" myself to play at around 1.4J-1.6J instead of maxing out the 2J field limit.
>>257476>>257487I'm surprised wherever you are you don't have rules similar to what we have here. No MED is for everything up to 1.14J, 1.8J is 10 m I believe, 2.32J is 15 m, 2.81J is 20 m and finally anything over 3.93J is 30 m. Now it's not ideal because airniggers despite playing a sport dependent on judging distance can't tell how far away their target is so you will absolutely still get lit up by something way too powerful at too close of a range but I think it's better than having no MED for 1.8J or some retarded complicated formula. Also I ran 1.14J even on outdoor fields without any J restrictions and I still did well so I think that's a much better solution than whacking someone with 1.8J from up close, even if theoretically you're at a disadvantage at range.
>>257490>Also I ran 1.14J even on outdoor fields without any J restrictions and I still did well so I think that's a much better solution than whacking someone with 1.8J from up close, even if theoretically you're at a disadvantage at range.i think higher joule ranges are kinda just needed to make certain aspects of airsoft work well. desu i barely notice a difference when my gun is shooting at 1.3J or 1.7J when skirmishing with a rifle, but... trying to engage in something like a DMR larp when my time-to-target is fucklong due to sheer lack of muzzle energy just sucks. using a big fuckoff gun to chuck heavy BBs at a perfect, slight parabolic arc at 2J< just feels good, and it validates whole DMR thing for me. i do still like the typical 1.7J limit here, because people have less time to dodge away from shots and it makes things feels more real. i'd rather get hit by a BB that i didn't see coming than see a bunch of them fly towards me in slow motion, i guess.
>>257491>time-to-target is fucklong due to sheer lack of muzzle energy just sucksI never had this issue because I always used to run up to people's faces cause I treated this sport as a pretext to run around and get some movement in. In fact I got called a cheater by fat camping blobs on several occasions because I ran so fast to the center of the field they couldn't fathom you could get there fast enough without having like a 20 m head start. Also you're overblowing the issue. Unless you're shooting something like a 0.5 BB out of a 1J gun then the differences in speed aren't that noticeable really. BBs in general just travel real slow and things like brush stopping them isn't helping in the authenticity department either.
>>257492>I never had this issue because I always used to run up to people's faces cause I treated this sport as a pretext to run around and get some movement in.thats my use case for this hobby about most of the time. i get the most kills and do the most objectives when i just focus on running the field with whatever garbage stock gun i brought that day. however sometimes i want to be a secret snipper with my beautiful tuned DMR, and i probably wouldn't bother with that part if said DMR didn't shoot at 2.2J. i've tried an LPVO on a regular rifle shooting at 1.5J or something and it felt silly as shit due to the long time-to-target, and i ended up just wasting tons of .43g ammo not hitting anything. a skill issue perhaps
>>257461if you read my post i said i have a WE apache dummy. The only non gbb i have is that vss, and a SVD not pictured that's not assemembled yet. The two rifs on the left are MWS's one from G&P, and the other is a DE N4, the G36 is the army armament begadi one, everything else is pistols in kits
>After being asked to watch my niece on game day
i was thinking of what gun to bring to a 1 day milsim, and idk what it is but i kinda hate most of my guns. my APC 556 is supposed to be my go-to gun but i just don't really like holding it. it has had some dumb issues that are presumably fixable but that probably can't be all of it. kinda the same with my other guns. really the only gun i really like right now is my EBR, which is the only gun i bought out of love (but i can't bring that one due to lack of DMR slots). sad. it might just be that i only love "big bricks of aluminum that are screwed together" type guns
>>257576just use the EBR as a regular rifle
>>257577i've done it before but ultimately i think it just messes with my autism too much to field it as a regular rifle. its like using an MP5 as a DMR. also the 22 inch barrel and front heft are rather impractical for typical rifleman dutiesanyway i'm a bit curious about other people's experiences regards to which of their guns seem to stand the test of time which end up collecting dust. i've loved the EBR before i even bought it, but it also happens to be the most solidly and most "intelligently" built gun i have, so it could be either or. something about a bad fire selector placement or mag retention system just fucks my shit up and the EBR has none of that.
>>257580My vss is definitely my "stand the test of time gun" always works, shoots lasers, super quiet, and it's just a cool gun to play with.
>>257452Your least offensive monstrosity yet. I almost like it.
Had a grown ass 40 year old man get butthurt yesterday. I got a flanking position behind his piece of cover and shot him square in the back. He didn't flinch, so I kept shooting him 1-2 shots a second and he just didn't move. Finally a shot hit the back of his neck and he turned around and sprayed full auto (field was locked semi only) in my direction without even managing to hit me. Game ended right that second so I got to go up to him and ask what his problem was. He sheepishly tried to blame people from the front shooting full auto at him (they probably weren't probably speedsofters with super light triggers) and that for some reason meant it was ok to ignore getting hit and the spray full auto at me.
>>257697crazyi guess u can hope that he wasn't malicious and instead was just retarded and had some tunnel vision going. i know a dude who will not respond to anything if he's "focused" on doing something, and then his brain buffers and he realizes it all at once and panics lol
>>257698(I am also an Old) I think older people who aren't regularly active can get overwhelmed by the speed and aggressiveness of younger regular players. He seemed majorly frustrated and flustered. I was going to mention to a ref afterwards, but I noticed the guy packed up after that game and left so the problem solved itself. Just crazy how shitty people can be of all ages.
>>257697>probably speedsofters with super light triggersI got called out for supposedly using full auto in my HPGay M16 several times because I nigger rigged a hair trigger so sensitive it tripped if you slapped a magazine in too hard. I really liked that gun.
>>257700You should be executed
>>257744Seethe poorfag
>>257744airsofters believe that site rules are video game mechanics you are supposed to subvert as much as you can possibly get away with. the refs are like bosses you have to avoid like youre playing metal gear solid
>>257747>field has semi auto rule for cqb>gun is still used in semi only>NOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT HAVE A BETTER GUN THAN ME YOURE BENDING THE RUUUUUUUUUUUULESSSSSSSSSSAre you okay anon?
>>257748>dresses in sheets of plywood>doesn't feel any of your shots so dont have to call them>knives you with my permanent marker to prove i hit youahh sorry bro maybe next time u wont dress so badly
>>257749What are you even babbling about retarded zoomer
>>257748>semi is as fast as full auto because the trigger is fuckednigger kys
>>257757Cope and seethe milfatty
>>257757Way to out yourself you're a shitter who can't pull the trigger fast enough
>>257760His brap gun probably can't do more than a couple shots at a time due to cooldown
>>257762I want to come back to airshit and am considering a GBB but they still have too many strings attached. I had an HPGay gun so I know the system and I know it just werks™. On the other hand I had a few GBBs before and they were mostly just issues. I'm still waiting for some company to make a non-shit Daytona M16.
>>257763You could just get a hpa adapter for a gbbr. The airtac shotshell ones are about as discrete as it gets.Or pay someone like frog Engineering to convert your gbbr to use hpa https://youtu.be/J3r2FFnKV6Y?is=oOlS-9YEJCaJ1Q7G
>>257765>airtac shotshellI did run into those when looking around at what options there are now but they rub me the wrong way due to using shells. I know it's a robust system that works but it would just feel wrong to be swapping out shells instead of magazines, unless I was larping with a Fallout Wattz laser rifle or something like that.>frog EngineeringTo my knowledge he only makes cagslop PMAG styled magazines and I want STANAG magazines, even if they were plastic. Also I've heard those mags are really flimsy and easy to damage so that doesn't inspire confidence either.
>>257766Then there's a Tippmann or a E&L T191.Don't think tippmanns are in production anymore and the other is a meme.It's honestly surprising to me there are no gbb manufacturers that make ootb hpa gbbrs. Considering how many people I see that use them you'd think there was a market for it.
>>257767>E&L T191And it's a massive piece of shit because it's just a rechambered chink police training gun. I was hoping it would be decent so it would hopefully open the door for other manufacturers to step in but that didn't happen.>It's honestly surprising to me there are no gbb manufacturers that make ootb hpa gbbrsI'm surprised too but I think you're overestimating how many people use adapters or Gaytonas. Asian manufacturers mostly care about their home turf and GBBs mostly work fine there because it's generally warm there. Also airniggers are divided into three camps which are AEGs, GBBs and HPGays and each of these tribes is extremely autistic why their chosen propulsion system is best. I imagine no company wants to take the risk to try and appeal to any of these autists because it's just not worth it.
>>257768I'm just going by what I see locally, and with gbbrs a lot of people are using adapters. Especially in the winter months. And considering how big airtacs business is now in just a few years must mean a decent amount of people get them
>>257769I just remembered airtac is supposedly working on an HPA lower for the MWS. I saw it on the HRC trannycord but there hasn't been any new info for a while. Also it's hideous because it isn't a generic AR lower but some IWA/Shot Show tier hype beast bullshit with lightening cuts everywhere which is a shame.
thats it im gonna start talking about airsoft on other boards to get some new blood here
>HPAfags talking about their retarded shit again
>>257775maybe if you werent so busy huffing propane farts you'd also post more
>>257770oh yea i saw that, i doubt the actual production one will look like that. Everything they do now is injection molded so it will probably look more plasticy. Something like that Tapp GHK lower
>>257778>Everything they do now is injection moldedThe one dickcord looked like it was milled but maybe that was just a prototype. Still it looked like those gay l33t operturdator civvie ARs and I'm definitely not a fan.>Tapp GHK lowerI didn't know about this so I looked it up and it looks absolutely vile.
>>257775>how DARE people talk about the topic of a threadI don't know what goes through your faggot minds
>>257779>I didn't know about this so I looked it up and it looks absolutely vile.yea and knowing tapp qc it doesn't last more than a week.
>>257782It's been years now at this point i'm amazed you still get so assblasted about it every time.
>>257454What in the Metal Gear Solid V is this. That being said fuck i want one, man you know what my dick hard. Is tis a kit, what is it made of
>>257879It's 3d printed. Just search firewad on cults3d and it should show up.
>put a suppressor and longer inner barrel on my mp5k and went outdoors airsoft with it>sounds like a really cool sounding tokyo marui p90 that i heard one time 20 years agoi thought i'd never hear this sound againflump flump flump flump flump flump
Anybody else commonly see a really bizarre thumb-over-bore derived stance where the player's handguard holding arm has the elbow bent at like a 90 degree elbow with the point of the elbow pointed up at the sky? It's like people trying to TOB on a gun way too short to properly TOB. TOB in airsoft is already semi-silly, but at least you can practice an be good at snapping to multiple targets, but this windmill armed TOB I keep seeing is like tactical cargo culting after a few generations of cultural inbreeding.
>>258125Not really. What I keep noticing is that faggot shit middle finger pushing the trigger thing
people c-clamping vaguely annoyed me at first (since it's pointless for airshit) but now i figure its just people training for their real gun and real life 1v9 home defense situations. and i do dumb larpy shit too so its all good
>>258360What I'm talking about isn't real C-clamp TOB. It's like "n-clamp" grip where they just keep rotating their hands more and more, causing the elbows to bend on little short guns. It's like final form chicken wing as the bent elbow is up in the air. I'll try and grab pics of it. It's very bizarre; it's neither a proper imitation of real tactical gripping nor is it a stance that looks specifically useful for airsoft. It's really weird.
>>258379yes i got that part of your post that they were butchering the c-clamp though i do not have a good idea of what it looks like, aside from ridiculous
aap users I kneel....
>>258360>but now i figure its just people training for their real gun and real life 1v9 home defense situationsWhich they'll never end up in anyway. Or if they do they'll get whacked anyway. Also C-clamp looks incredibly gay.>>258379Both are are gay because always, without fail the "people" who do these are retarded broperators whose entire personality is being an airshit broperator. Yes, I larp as stupid shit too but I don't make it my entire personality.
>>258470Hey man, somebody has to buy all those XXXL combat tops. Also funny at my most regular field there some guys fully kitted out in AOR1 gear for the full SEAL look. I've heard them bitch about dirt or grime getting on their fancy expensive pouches and clothes. They never go in the actual woods or even go prone. Always straight down the center by way of designated paths, because otherwise their previous LARP gear would get wear on it. I can not imagine having the mindset of wearing gear I'm not willing to get dirty.
>>258478I got accused several times of cheating by starting further in a field and getting to the center too fast.In my full 80s US GI larp gear.Obeasts just can't fathom moving faster than a glacier.
