>>258417
>>258418
These are indeed both terrible exchanges, but neither is the one worth seeing from last year's Black Horns.

>>258434
Timestamp it and I'll make it into a webm

>>258435
I don't have a timestamp but I though it was obvious that I was referring to the retard getting stabbed in the arm in the R&D tournament.

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here are some cursed swords mixes, let me know what you guys think

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>>258439
Oh yeah, I forgot about that.

>>258444
lmao

>>258441

Cursed? I like all of them.

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>>258441
>>258493

I was trying to make the polish saber langlet crossguard work aesthetically into a 2 handed weapon but the more I prototype the more I'm liking the 2 handed szabla look, I wonder if they were used historically

>>258507
>I wonder if they were used historically

Well, there were grossmessers and swiss sabers.

>>258508

Oh yeah certainly, but I mean like a 2 handed polish szabla look specifically

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>>258507

more iterations:

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>>258415
https://archive.org/details/MedievalCombatAFifteenthCenturyIllustratedManualSwordFightingAndCloseQuarterCombatByHansTalhoffer/page/n2/mode/1up

https://www.thearma.org/manuals.htm

>>258510
the hand guard loses its' function once you make the handle that long. the closest thing to what you've come up with is the kriegsmesser, and the people who have made and used them seemed to prioritize protecting the sides rather than the front.

>>258591
do you mean the knucklebow? I think it will serve fine to protect the lead hand at least

If I'm not mistaken I've seen examples of 2handed falchions that have a bit of a knucklebow

Holy shit, a new thread

Y'all still doing jittery German?

Who makes good training swords? I want something sturdy that won't break apart and is about as heavy as a real sword, but isn't dangerous to swing around in my home and I won't be able to cut myself with it

>>259068
>isn't dangerous to swing around in my home
just get an indoor trainer

>>259068
You arent going to cut yourself.

Your ceiling on the other hand....

>>259068

I like Fabri Armorum's longsword. It's heavy because it's built to last.

>>259068
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Pz1VvpHybaTqaWhJzb3XaQcSUTGH0VV2UZMZBBcLm-A/edit?usp=sharing

>>258444
Sadly, that's what happens when you wear a jacket that was made for a gimmick. Officer has no padding in the arms whatsoever so it's heavily susceptible to injury.
Also what did they think would happen letting them use rapiers with such narrow tips without tipping them like that? Puncture resistance does fuck all when you're that negligent.

>>258444
>im swordfighting xD
>nooooo not like that

Pathetic how his first instinct was to collapse to the ground and cry

>>260038
He did get injured nigga.

>>260038
>Pathetic
Your reaction would have been more or less the same if you had been in his place.

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>longsword, casual practice sparring
>wearing Sparring Gloves and jackets and whatnot
>have to fix my grip I think? (Was very fast i cant recall)
>opponent thrust at that exact moment
>blade goes through the TINY 1cm gap between the thumb and index finger and stabs me
>9 stitches
I had a shitty thin underglove and he didn't have a plastic cap or tape on his point (just dull metal)
Tendons and nerves are fine atleast. Any suggestions for an underglove for those clamshells?

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>>260184
Pic of gloves

>>260184
>>260185
Well, my suggestion would be to first replace the elastic strings holding the thumb pieces together with the most durable zip ties you can find. Those strings make the pieces hang a little loose so accidents related to small gaps and openings like that are just waiting to happen. Make sure that the head and tail of the zip ties meet on the side of the glove facing away from your hand to avoid it chafing.

Aside from that, the only way I can imagine such an injury occurring is if you were holding the sword in a hammer grip and pointing it at your opponent. Of course, without knowing how you were holding the sword, I can't provide a detailed solution to your problem. I'd say try to keep the sword in a more loose handshake grip, let the crossguard cover the part in your picrel. It will also make defending against hand shots a lot easier.

As for the underglove, you either have the option of getting running gloves which provide aid in gripping the sword, or thin puncture-resistant work gloves. Anything thicker will be too bulky and make it uncomfortable.

>>260189
Thanks for the advice, pretty sure my grip was bad. Still trying to get better with the grip and gloves. I tend to default into a hammer grip

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>>260185
I like the hourglass but ideally I would like it better like this

>>260688
That's possible if you purchase an hourglass along with a separate long cuff

does anyone here have the fechtbuch fabian pdf?

>>260184
>and he didn't have a plastic cap or tape on his point (just dull metal)
Why do people do this? Just put a fucking tip on it.

i've been dabbling with dussack lately, I've been looking for any good sources on footwork and stance. Every time I use a passing step i feel like i over step and when i adjust i feel like i step to shallow, how the hell does this shit work ? How low should i sit in my stance?

>>261080
https://wiktenauer.com/wiki/Category:Dussack

>>260184
> didn't have a plastic cap or tape on his point
Didn't your papa teach you not to fuck without a condom?

Just getting back into fencing after a long injury, unrelated. The injured part is fine but I'm a fat fuck and get tired way too easily. Feels good to be back, and my club is doing a bit of slow bloss with no gear, which is nice to ease back in with.

Does anybody still make those "Musketeer" doublewide epee blades? Seems like it was associated with that Ukrainian smith that is obviously not doing as much business as before and everyone else is sold out.

Also, is training smallsword gay?

>>261319
>Also, is training smallsword gay?
Not really. If you're doing it exactly like Olympic fencing, then maybe. But if you're doing it in a way that would be closer to HEMA, then it's not gay. Look up smallsword tournament footage on youtube and see what works and what doesn't for you.

I'm looking for a manual on mid 19th century American spadroon. I had it before but lost it when the hard drive died. I remember this particular one called the sword an espadona

>>261080
In Meyer's dussack, there is no overstepping, only cowards. You're probably right about stepping too shallow in the realignments though, the ones done with both feet are hard to learn to correct timing with the sword.

As for sources, try Björn Rüther's channel, e.g.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5V_uB9JNBg

Summer is coming. How do you lot deal with the heat while fencing? My club space has no AC so we can train in a sweaty box or we can go outside and melt in the sun.

>>262136
naked in the sun, like our ancestors intended

>>262136
Just drink more water and open your jacket when not drilling/ sparing

>>262136
My annual process is to die like a pig.

>>261319

You talking about HF Armory? They're still in business as far as I know.

https://hf-armory.com/en/product-category/weapon/

Some other sellers stock them too sometimes.

https://www.woodenswords.com/product_p/hf.r.gdf.htm

>>262358
HF Armory are in business, but they apparently aren't making the musketeer blades at the moment due to war-related circumstances.

how does one practice drills on their own without getting the police called (some crazy guy swinging around a sword in a park)

>>262737
Get someone else to drill with you, dudes moving in unison is clearly people at practice, dude moving on his own looks crazy

Newfag here. Am i stupid if i order one of those 400 dollar starter kits from supfen? (For sidewsword/sabre only)
Im broke

>>262764
>Am i stupid
Yes. Supfen provides knockoffs and they tend to be subpar at best and horrendous at worst. You can easily get better gear from other manufacturers at a slightly higher price. This gear you'll be using for years into the future so I'd say it's worth the extra handful. If you're going to do sidesword and sabre then you can make do with lighter and cheaper stuff, such as the officer jacket and light/medium gloves.

>>262785
That's a shame. Some of their jackets look really cool.

>>262785
You absolutely cannot make do with light gloves for sidesword, the sidesword glove situation is horrendous but just breaking your fingers every bout ain't it chief. I hear rumors that the bongs have invented a new good sidesword glove but otherwise the only real option is the Black Prince AFAIK.

You're right about everything else though.

>>262764
>Im broke
Look into the used market. People sell stuff with lots of life left in it for cheap because they upgraded into something else or because they CONSOOOM'd too hard.

>>262824
Well, depends on how intricate the sidesword's guard is. Of course something like a hockey glove would be the bare minimum.
>>262797
Their jackets and pants have an overheating problem. I haven't used them myself but I know people who do and they complain about it all the time. Moreso than the usual SPES AP Standard.
>>262833
Also the outlet tab on Spes' website.

>>262136
>How do you lot deal with the heat while fencing?

Sometimes I ditch the jacket and fence with synthetics.

>>262738
Alternately you might be able to get away with practicing against another sword in a bicycle repair stand.

>>263134
I've been seeing an increase in people doing slow slow sparring with just mask and gloves

>>258415
Anyone here into unarmed HEMA? Ringen, Pugilism, etc.

>>261649
>there is no overstepping, only cowards.
Now that's the kind of HEMA I like

>>263135
>bicycle repair stand.
DUDE you're a GENIUS, unironically. I've been trying to think of how to get something like that set up for months.

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Anyone got good sources for shillelagh?

>>262737
>Shoolyards in the evenings and weekends are better than parks. They are often fenced off and clearly show you are not just rampaging through the public

>Wear the approriate gear. Doesn't have to be full on mask, gloves and jacket, just something that shows you are involved in a sport as opposed to a tacticool/trenchcoat/jeans-wearing maniac rampaging through the public

>Don't be an entitled cunt if the police actually shows up. The fact that you are technically allowed to practice martial arts in public doesn't mean everyone knows what HEMA is, or feders, or sparring sabers that look exactly like real sabers. Just say "It's just sport fencing, but I totally understand" etc to anything the police say

I had an incident last year where 6 officers with weaopons drawn surrounded me after 15 minutes of solo drills
>Go to my regular spot on a schoolyard totally enclosed by fences and buildings
>Rain out of nowhere
>Fuckit, decide to keep practicing under a roof in clear view of the road and passing pedestrians
>After 5 minutes I see some old lady 70 meters away talking on the phone and looking at me very intently
>Oh well, better just keep doing my thing and let the cops see what's going on than to disappear and cause a manhunt for "unknown sword-wielding assailant"
>Sirens and armed police 10 minutes after that

Nothing to it but to calmly put the feder down and answer any question they might have, let them inspect the gear etc. Point out that it was in fact sunday afternoon, the school was closed, no other people in the yard, 20 other people passed by the sidewalk without giving a shit, "no I don't think an informative sign would have helped, officer. But I UNDERSTAND, of course".

They realised I was no threat after about 1 minute, and then one officer with control issues gave me a 10 minute lecture on local laws around knives and other nonsense.

favorite rapier/rapier&dagger treatises?

How come there's no fucking armor vendors in any country that has armor in stock or for sale? What changed in the past five years? Armor for harnesfechten used to be abundant and plentiful. You could get it almost anywhere. Now your choice is Made-in-Pajeetland slop of dubious quality, or paying some obscure polish person $8000 up front and then not hearing from him for 16 months as he ignores all your emails.

Where the fuck are the armor vendors these days?

>>268079
>What changed in the past five years?
All of the decent affordable armourers were in Ukraine. Can you think of something that happened to Ukraine in the past 5 years?

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>>268091
No, not really.
Also, Ukraine makes a shitload of LARP armor and then charges you the same price as a new car for it. There used to be abundant American armorsmiths, British armorsmiths, German armorsmiths, and yes Polish armorsmiths. And in the past five years, they all decided to quit, retire, vanish from the internet. The ones that are still active are so backlogged that if you order a new suit of armor you're waiting two years minimum before they even start on it.

>>268135
>>268136
Nice, solo drills for the lonely longswordsman

>>267314
>After 5 minutes I see some old lady 70 meters away talking on the phone and looking at me very intently
Old ladies are the fucking worst with this shit. Anytime I've had cops called on me, it's been a middle aged or older woman living a vivid fantasy life in her head. They're such morons. Do they not understand that calling cops creates a very real threat of someone dying for no reason if the person doesn't handle the cops with perfect poise?

>>268495
No joke. I've had cops come up to me rolling their eyes, "yes, sir, we just have to check, yes, we got a call from a lady here in the park who" bla bla. Contemptible fearful hoes who can't tell a longsword from a machete even when both fencers are in full gear.

>>268495
Old people are so isolated and desperate for social interactions they will chat at length with obvious scammers and start public arguments with strangers and call cops on people just to add the barest excitement to their empty lives. The tragedy of it is muted somewhat by the fact this causes problems for other people, and their own life choices resulted in them living this kind of life.

I don't know anything about HEMA but there's a place that opened up near me that and I was thinking about checking it out. They teach in the style of Joachim Meyer (whatever that means) and offer dussak, federschwert and rapier. Is that a fun/good system worth checking out or is it some dweeb shit?

>>268702
>Is that a fun/good system worth checking out
Meyer is one of the most based systems around.

>is it some dweeb shit?
That depends entirely on who's teaching at your school.

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Looking for feder reccs. Any budget. Specifically, I want a feder that is ergonomically as close as possible to an Albion Munich. Length, weight, balance, handle etc - the closer the better.

I bought a Munich a couple years ago and really love it, but recently have been wanting to start actually learning and practicing forms/drills and such. Maybe eventually find a local HEMA club, but for now just something to do in the back yard when the weather is nice. Problem of course is that it's a fucking razor sharp longsword and I don't want to damage it, the surroundings, or myself.

How to do historical fencing and never have to train/interact with neither a fatass nor a troon?

>>268702
>Joachim Meyer (whatever that means)
Very versatile fencing master. Wrote a lot. Covers many different weapons.
>Is that a fun/good system worth checking out or is it some dweeb shit?
Yes. You will meet absolute spergs (and trannies) in every HEMA club.

>>268725
It's impossible. The HEMA pipeline is usually video game nerds finding videos on YouTube and wanting to roleplay a D&D character. Many people in this hobby are out of shape and severely autistic. The physicality acts as a filter somewhat but many persist. They have lgbt tournaments where they-them dudes destroy women and collect gold medals.
You have to accept this or you will be treated as a demon and excommunicated and blacklisted.

>>268702
Mayer is cool but if they say they offer Meyer rapier that increases the probability that they're retards. Meyer has a sword called a "rappier" in German, but in German that word means "sidesword". So if people talk about "Meyer rapier" that implies they're ignorant.

>>268789
>They have lgbt tournaments where they-them dudes destroy women and collect gold medals.
Actually, those are the women's tournaments.

>>268789
>The HEMA pipeline is usually video game nerds finding videos on YouTube and wanting to roleplay a D&D character
truth nuke. it's either 40+ alcoholic theater kids or troons in their 20s. you rarely ever get anything inbetween. but then those who aren't one of the aforementioned tend to have drive and become very good competitive fencers.

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>>268839
>>They have lgbt tournaments where they-them dudes destroy women and collect gold medals.
>Actually, those are the women's tournaments.
It is known.

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>>268886
Let's see if you can identify the two trannies in this pic.

>>268725
>>268789
Damn...I'll never find a chud club...

>>269146
Nah, you can find chud clubs alright, they'll just have fatasses in them.

>>269161
I would take fatasses over trannies any day of the week, any year of a millennium.

>>269173
Yeah obviously but the spec provided in >>268725 was to, quote,
>never have to train/interact with neither a fatass nor a troon.
That's impossible, it's going to be at least one or the other.

>>269442
Papa said not to be ashamed of our self-sparring rickshaws

>>268968
All of them

>>268839
>Actually, those are the women's tournaments.
Actually, those are Under-Represented Gender (URG) tournaments.

>>269161
They all have fatasses in them. If there are any chud clubs out there, they're gonna be on the down low or out of the country.

>>269482
There are only two genders, and trans isn't either one.

>>269442
By the way, is he supposed to be parrying with his weak here?

>>269484
>There are only two genders, and trans isn't either one.
Wrong. There is only one gender. Women are property.

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>>269490