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Started Judo about a month ago and I've been really struggling desu, more so than I feel I should. I'm not out of shape either, I have some of the best cardio in the whole class. It's just that the level of athleticism required for judo is much higher than I anticipated, and I feel I seriously lack the coordination and flexibility to properly execute many of the throws (I've yet to get one legitimately clean throw yet desu). Would BJJ be better for a guy like me? I've only done ne waza like twice but the times I have done it I felt it came much more naturally to me than the other aspects of judo.
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>>261550
A month is nothing, keep training at least for 6 months then decide if you want to switch.
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>>261550
>one month
>already quitting
It doesn't matter if it's BJJ, Judo or painting, if you are already finding issues, you are not going to last
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>>261550
You're probably very stiff, unbalanced and exerting mad amounts of energy like every white belt. You'll notice higher belts are relaxed until the moment they have to throw and then they explode.
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>>261550
Im a skinny fuck and a yellow belt and have landed some throws. Being skinny doesnt help at all but my technique is getting better. This shit takes time man but you'll eventually get the hang of it. Good luck landing osoto gari tho. That throw is impossible to land if youre a newbie cause its so easy to counter
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>>261627
It's easy to counter because it doesn't work without kizushi
But all throws don't work without kizushi
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>>261550
Bruh you are one month in? I do both judo and bjj and bjj is far easier on the body and in general. It's really an old mans martial art desu.
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>>261550
If you can't handle a month of judo then you won't be able to handle a month of BJJ, or any combat sport, or probably any sport in general. You're probably not executing any throws clean because you're training twice a week, probably learning breakfalls and multiple throws at the same time, and going against people with more experience than you.

If you want to feel good, maybe bring a friend (you do have friends, don't you?) so that you're not the worst person in the class any more, and see how you go against them.
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>>261550
>It's just that the level of athleticism required for judo is much higher than I anticipated, and I feel I seriously lack the coordination and flexibility to properly execute many of the throws (I've yet to get one legitimately clean throw yet desu).
That's what practice is for. BJJ is pretty physical too, there's no ez mode and learning curves for a complete beginner are pretty steep. I'd keep at it unless you don't like it or if there's something wrong with you physically/you're at risk of injury
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Judo throws are extremely difficult because you are trying to score for ippon. It's a very specific criteria. If you want to learn how to crudely drag someone to the floor and submit them or escape from bottom then BJJ is better


There's a reason every MMA fighter does bjj over judo
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jUDO IS fucking HARD I squat 600lbs and in 5 months i've only done 11 Throws
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>>265977
>There's a reason every MMA fighter does bjj over judo
Because most MMA fighters are American or Brazilian. When you look at MMA fighters coming from other regions, you see way more guys doing things like judo, sambo, and catch wrestling for their base groundwork because that's what's more common over there.
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So I'm wanna train to learn how too defend myself and get fitter I wrestled a year in High-school and really enjoyed it but had to stop to work on grades and I was better at other sports but I wanna go back and do some other forms of grappling so where do I start how do I start and which to start bjj or judo which is better to start and what are the pros and cons and both
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Hijacking OPs thread
What level of fitness should I aim to be at before I try joining a Judo class?
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>>261550
If you are thinking that bjj would be easier because you aren't athletic then yeah pretty much but bjj requires even more flexibility than judo.

do weighted plyometrics and lift heavy but move the weight as fast as possible, that will make you athletic as fuck and if you need extra flexibility then just do stretches and flex the muscles you are stretching, this will put you on a deeper stretch.
You can do a gym session 2 times per week and do 2-3 exercises per session and do 2-3 sets saving 2 reps in the tank, this will minimize fatigue but still get you the benefits from it, strength gains will be slow but consistent.
Also do more uchi komi, that's unironically the best way to get better coordination for throws.
Its possible you are struggling because you are doing something wrong.
First kumi kata, for grips you can't just grab them and try to throw, you have to get into a good position but first you have to know when you are in a bad position, if he has his hands on you and is able to move you then that's a bad position, if both of you can move eachother that's 50/50 and if you can move him that's a good position.
They will try to pin your arm down and push or pull your lapel as well as moving your head so your spine is bent, so try to do the opposite and get them into those positions.

Then kuzushi, subtly pull them or push them, they will move back to their initial position so in that moment you can do kuzushi in the opposite direction you initially moved them, during kuzushi, think of doing face pull (look it up) with their arms, get their body as close as possible to yours, the more contact the better and push their bodies with yours, get your hips lower than their and pull their sleeve and lapel hard.

You can cross train with bjj for flexibility and coordination gains but you should still do weighted plyos and explosive lifts to gain athletism and power.
Instead of thinking what would be easier its better to think how to fix your problem.
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>>267053
speak English faggot
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>>267055
Para que un indio negro con el culo partido como tu deje de chillar, chinga tu puta madre perra estupida, no me hables con ese tono de piel.
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Is there anyone in here who could stand a chance against Jonah?
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>>267125
The quotes were so stupid that I thought they might be fake. So I looked them up to see if he even actually said that ridiculous shit and turns out he did. Having said that, the level of insecurity completely checks out for BJJ.



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