>>270500
>>270503
>>270504
roids. not even once

>>270499
why are you adding information for casuals

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John actually erm uh, invented jumping people 3 on 1, and uhm uh also invented ADCC
Oh shit is that John Danaher? He uhm actually invented Jiujitsu

>>270522
Seethe

>>270529
Nobody is seething, we're laughing at you

Any general tips for comp? Going to my first out of gym comp and I want to have a good time and make some friends. But I also don't want to go 0-5 (which I probably will ngl)

You're not going to make friends, People aren't there to socialize

People will be sitting with their own groups they traveled with, and stretching with headphones on
Best case scenario someone offers you candy or tries to mooch some of yours when you're packing up at the end of the day and you never see them again

Why did you not directly reply?

Because there's nobody else in the room with us and there's no cross talk happening

>>270544
You can absolutely become friendly with people if you see them at every local but he's right you're probably not going to make friends. Bring snacks if you're doing gi and no gi because they're almost all run like shit and youre gonna be there 4-6 hours for 20 minutes of rolling. If you've ever played a sport before you don't have to worry nearly as much about an "adrenaline dump" as the average person online will tell you, bjj is largely practiced by people with zero athletic background that make mountains out of molehills. Warm up the same way you always would, if that's any sort of grip fighting or flow rolling make sure you have someone you know and trust there the day of, if they aren't going to be there find the people that will and start communicating with them now. Don't try anything new on the mats unless you genuinely don't care about the results. Unless you're months out and capable of losing weight slowly don't bother cutting weight for a 4$ plastic medal. Go in comfortable and use it as a way to find naturally occuring holes in your game. At white belt with maybe a year of experience be prepared to find out there are a lot more than you expected

>>270522
Jesus christ sauders really sounds like a faggot

>>270556
>>270548
Oh yeah, I'll definitely make one friend before I leave u fuckers.
but yup, will remember to bring snacks to probably share with people. I guess gum would be kinda neat to slide into people's DMs. I gotta work on my game a lot more though, have too little months experience but I think my top positions are okay so I'll focus more on finishing from there. Any resources to take a look at?

>>270559
Gordon's the one saying John invented CLA which is a framework that's been around since the 80s

>>270569
Ok but can Greg submit him?

>>270570
John? Yeah probably

>>270566
>gum would be kinda neat
Poor sweet thing
Sour skittles and gummies are what people are after. The 3 food groups are sour, chewy, and fruity
That's your currency at jiujitsu competitions like cigarettes and honey buns are in prison

>>270577
i mean something to freshen the breathe haha people would get self conscious i guess. I mean it's still early so I'll pack sour skittles and gummies kehehehe.

>>270499
Why did he do it, anons?

>>270500
I'm curious. Why did they resort to shoving and punching? Shouldn't they have laid on their back and coaxed the guy into a brutal submission if they were really mad?

>>270577
>sour, chewy, and fruity
Huge shoutout to my GOAT sour cherry balls for hitting all three

>>270499
In high school one of my folkstyle/scholastic wrestling teammates suddenly spazzed out in a match, picked the other guy up over his head, and yeeted him from about the center of the mat to the edge of the mat (very much an illegal technique). As he was storming off the mat back towards our team coach was pissed off and walked to confront him, but when he threw his headgear down and yelled, "He shoved his FINGER in my ASSHOLE!" coach immediately calmed down, consoled our guy, and handled the situation with the refs and other coach. The booty bandit left on a stretcher and there were no legal or disciplinary consequences for our guy.

>>270595
He was raped

>>270597
It was pretty fucked up. I wrestled for 11 years and that's the only time I knew of that happening to someone, despite jokes about it being ever present. It's just he injured that kid as badly as he did.

>>270597
sean strickland was also

Any tips for a newbie? Half a year in and I'm starting to get the hang of things. How are you supplementing knowledge outside the gym though? I'm running into a lot of situations where I learn things, drill them, understand them, a day later I completely forget all the techniques, ask for a refresher, completely forget again. Rinse and repeat. I know it's frustrating a bit of my instructors but I do want to start progressing a little out of the gym. I'm starting to feel my rolls have been very "samey" and while I get that's a "good thing" since I'm developing my game. It's starting to be really fucking predictable to my training partners.

>>270608
>I learn things, drill them, understand them, a day later I completely forget all the techniques, ask for a refresher, completely forget again
Take notes after class and review them before class.

>>270609
I've tried writing notes before but it never sticks. I either write too vague where I have no idea what the fuck the position is or I end up writing the wrong thing and I'm like what this makes no sense.
Maybe I should start looking shit up after class and putting videos on a notion notebook or something. Is a training dummy worth it to drill positions or is that going to get into bad habits?

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>>270610
>I've tried writing notes before but it never sticks. I either write too vague where I have no idea what the fuck the position is or I end up writing the wrong thing and I'm like what this makes no sense.
It's a skill that you'll need to develop, not some permanent incurable defect. Once I'm a little less busy I plan to take the time to learn to draw to improve my notetaking; currently, drawing is not a skill I have, but it's one I'm sure I can develop.
>Maybe I should start looking shit up after class and putting videos on a notion notebook or something.
Tying your notes in with other resources would be an excellent habit.
>Is a training dummy worth it to drill positions or is that going to get into bad habits?
Whatever gets you engaging with solo training. Closing your eyes and imagining an opponent while going through the motions without a dummy helps, too. As long as you're going to class and checking your technique against a real person under a coach's eye regularly you shouldn't develop any real bad habits.

>>270611
Thanks anon! Lastly just curious, do you have any good templates to use?

>>270608
>I learn things, drill them, understand them, a day later I completely forget all the techniques
See you're gonna go and get me all wound up again

Take a look at the previous thread where it is explained that drilling does not teach you jiujitsu and as a total waste of your time. Grappling is a motor learning process not a cognitive one

>>270613
>Grappling is a motor learning process not a cognitive one
It's very clearly both, at least for people who are not cognitively defective.
>inb4 ecosperg schizobabble text walls

>>270608
Take a ton of edibles close your eyes and visualize sequences. Body lock > take the back > mat return > kimura. Single leg into half guard > engage in hand fighting to bait a window > underhook > knee slice > darce

>>270614
>It's very clearly both
It's not and you're wrong
You were humiliated in the last thread trying to argue and everyone was against you so just shut the fuck up about it and enjoy your blue belt

>>270627
beyond delusional, take your meds

>>270597
>>270600
Finger-in-butthole as women's defense against rape:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_LGIShVRrI

>>270628
Try reading a book

>>270566
Coconut water

>>270608
>It's frustrating to my instructors
If you learned every new technique you came across in a week and could apply it you would be a black belt in a year of showing up to the gym twice a week
Cast off your self doubts about learning slowly

>>270608
>It's starting to be really fucking predictable to my training partners
The ultimate victory is being so good at what you do even though they know it's coming you win anyways
That's how you get your opponents beaten so bad they question their own skills

>>270578
People who are dehydrated smell like death
One fun trick is some people get offended if you chew gum while rolling
You can totally psyche them out as disrespecting them if gum chewing isn't against the rules

>>270661
>some people get offended if you chew gum while rolling
Do they? The only person I've seen give someone shit for chewing gum on the mats is my coach and I always thought that's because he's the one paying the cleaner

Is erik paulson legit? I have a gym 10min from home and the instructor got his black belt from him.

>>270663
He's a great case of how being a tough guy with a modest amount of ability made you an absolute legend 30+ years ago
But there's not actually anything particularly impressive about him, And I'm skeptical of his judgment because he recently released an instructional all about knee wrestling which is not a real position in any sport

In fact if you ever walk into a grappling gym and the guys are starting on the knees you need to do a 360 back break fall and shrimp out the door, it's the red flag to end them all

>>270664
In the other gym i went to for 1 year there was a brazilian instructor, infinite warm up, shrimp up and down the mat, drill armbar 10 times each no resistance AND he made us wear the belt even when doing nogi (this made me mad). So i'm thinking maybe this other gym will be better.

>>270656
Is reading about grappling a motor learning process?

>>270668
No it isn't
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7194200/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11417948/

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17408989.2018.1552676

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/17479541221138680

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/21640629.2024.2395135#abstract

This framework has been around for decades, I can't help if Brazilians never heard about it in the jungle but its not even up for debate
You and the larger bjj community are trying to dismiss the validity of something that has been known for 40 years and people have PhDs in

>>270672
>the application of the constraints-led approach requires a level of conceptual, theoretical, and practical expertise
kind of sounds like they're arguing that it's both a cognitive and motor process

>>270672
>>270656
If Greg Souders posted on 4chan his posts would read exactly like these

>>270683
Its referring to the person designing the practice
It's easy to accidentally turn live practice into pointless grab ass if you don't grasp exactly what you're trying to accomplish

All the thinking needs to be done by the coach so the athlete can just focus on improving
If as a coach you are putting your athletes in a position where they need to start taking notes and watching instructionals or what have you you've fundamentally failed at your job

They should be able to just show up to practice be given something to do and walk out having improved

>>270690
>It's easy to accidentally turn live practice into pointless grab ass if you don't grasp exactly what you're trying to accomplish
Agreed.
>All the thinking needs to be done by the coach so the athlete can just focus on improving
Disagree, unless, possibly, you're talking about an elite-level athlete with a full team of personal coaches doing every little thing for him all day long. For any other athlete they'll need to do some amount of homework outside of coach-supervised training time for maximum progress.
>If as a coach you are putting your athletes in a position where they need to start taking notes and watching instructionals or what have you you've fundamentally failed at your job
There's a difference between needing those things and benefiting from supplementing with those things.
>They should be able to just show up to practice be given something to do and walk out having improved
Agreed.

unironically, what university major should I go into if I want to get better in grappling. human kinesiology? I want something that would actually stem "aha" moments while rolling.

>>270692
Physiotherapy if you want to be Lachlan pilled.

>>270692
NEVER use your brain EVER or it will be impossible for you to grapple.

>>270692
Business Administration accelerated program at the University of Phoenix

>>270692
Marketing

>>270692
Yeah, kinesiology on a sports medicine physical therapy track
Its educational and an excellent profession

>>270691
>For any other athlete they'll need to do some amount of homework outside of coach-supervised training time for maximum progress.
It's impossible to improve skill outside of physically doing the activity
You can be self directed and make up your own practices if you want but unless you have other bodies resisting there isn't skill being developed

Studying film and what not you can formulate tactics, but not ability

flipping pages is a transferrable motor skill to fighting for grips in the gi thoughbeit

>>270692
Unironically chemistry
>Safety first
That's why you tap early and not be retarded

>>270662
Spitting is gross
But I have heard people get upset and bitch to their friends that they were being disrespected

>>270733
Do you always spit while you chew gum? Do you train with retards?

>>270692
There are colleges that will let you get a degree in judo, sambo, or wrestling in Asia and Eastern Europe.

>>270662
If you're exerting yourself and breathing heavily enough there's a risk you'll either expel it from your mouth and cause a gross problem for your partner or inhale it and cause a scene. If you're not prepared to be breathing that heavily it may imply you're not taking practice seriously.

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>>270725
>It's impossible to improve skill outside of physically doing the activity
There have been papers, metastudies, and coach/athlete experiences to the contrary for centuries. You may find pic related particularly relevant to you personally.
>Studying film and what not you can formulate tactics, but not ability
Tactics are an intermediate/advanced grappling skill.

>>270744
>they were being disrespected
>it may imply you're not taking practice seriously.
From a big picture point of view I can admit when I'm wrong. There are lower belts I don't take seriously at all. I can see how that's disrespectful. Never thought of it like that

>>270745
Nah, realizing snapdowns don't work in jiujitsu isn't a skill

>>270661
How do you chew gum with a mouthguard?

>>270779
>"extreme" sports
why are you wearing a mouth guard sissy?

>>270796
Bjj is extremely gay, everyone knows.

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>>270796
Not that Anon, but I wear one now that I'm old and my teeth are worn down, chipped, and fractured. Pic related isn't my teeth but it shows the kind of fractures I have.

>>270696
way ahead of you pal

Anyone noticing a LOT MORE fucking AI spam every where in the JJ world? My coach is even spamming the group chat with bad AI and it's cringing me out so bad.

>>270849
i very seldom seek out bjj content because even without ai i find a lot of it is needlessly complicated. verbosity for the sake of appearing in depth. turn a 2 or 3 hour instructional into a full days work taking notes and replaying sequences. ive been playing with things from this video every open mat and every class we've worked guard this summer
https://youtube.com/watch?v=00OuFi5BmB4

How often do you guys take a break?
My neck and shoulder are in pain but I've been training through It and making it worse.

>>270967
Whenever I feel like it, but breaks mean do rehab and recovery not sit on the couch

>>270967
i transition from working out like 15x a week to 6x a week every 6th week. I'll take one or two days off if I'm feeling like absolute ass though.

Any good instructionals you guys recommend?

>>270967
Ill take a week a few times a year. Always say I'm just gonna stretch and try to go for a walk on the weekend but usually end up doing some dips and pullups over the week. And I don't want to sound condescending but there's a difference between hurt and injured and I'd err on the side of caution if it's your neck
>>270971
When you say 15 I assume youre classing cardio, lifting, and training all as individual sessions?

>>270973
Nope

>>270974
yep

out there idea but thoughts on trying out some bodybuilding posing then simulating subs in the mirror to tighten up chokes? thinking to ensure maximum muscle recruitment to eliminate space on guillys or anything arm in, pulling back the lats

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Loool he did a tripod sweep at the end

fuck all this talk about eco vs drilling etc whatever. i find that what matters much more is the training intensity. i go to bjj the ppl complain that im going too hard, well their flow jiujitsu shit is never going to work in a real situation like a competition vs when i go to wrestle at the local wrestling club theyre not trying to flow roll theyre trying to win exchanges. and noone complains about you using too much strength lol. and im not talking about just using ur a-game and winning exchanges rather the intensity whether youre trying out new shit or doing your a-game. whereas if u do this in bjj youll get a bunch of pussies faking an injury or going like "hey hey thats too rough" or theyll roll with u once then next time u wanna roll with them theyll be like no thanks. belt culture is a problem here too, someone more athletic but with a lower belt will win you in a round then the upper belt will cope with that the guy was spazzing out or that he needs to learn to relax or whatever. which brings me to my other point, telling beginners to "relax", yea in the beginning its maybe a good advice before people learn proper coordination but youll find some people adopt this sort of relaxed flowy style even when theres no reason anymore. the most cope inducing thing is an athletic grappler with a lower belt than you who wins you by "spazzing too much" (it was rly because you were a pussy and giving up position)

>>271030
You're low key arguing in favor of eco though, you arrived at agreement with the principle thesis
Iron sharpens Iron, you need live work to progress

why didn't he tap

Lol absolutely rigged, that was a clear 29-28 if there ever was one

>>271029
can't tell if this is pale mexico or poland

>>271067
i think its england returning to piracy

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UFC bjj moment

>>271068
but i thought they banned the zombie knives already? how could this have happened?

>>271103
They have a loicense for it.

People criticise the early Gracie's for gaming the UFC or whatever

But that same argument can't be applied to Roger gracie

>>271118
It's unimpressive to win at a sport your family is running

I need to have a strong neck for bjj but correct me if I'm wrong but if you get stacked or dumped on your head you will still get a herniated disk no matter how strong your neck is

>>271181
regardless of how thick your neck is, you should never put yourself in a position where there is weight on your neck and you can't reliably bail out

>>271184

So ultimately what's the point of strengthening your neck? Just for it to be stronger during snapdows, collar ties and people pulling on your head in general?

>>271247
to be better at bridging, posting, to be more resistant to cranking, pulling, and be less likely to hurt yourself while doing all of the above.

have you done any sport at all? that's such a dumb question.

>>271336
I have tried to give neck training more attention but then realise if you get stacked it's over, if you get spiked it's over doesn't matter how thick your neck is really

I don't think most higher belts at my gym train their neck at all lol. Of course I will carry on because I'm scared but yeah>>271336

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>>271339
>if you get stacked it's over, if you get spiked it's over doesn't matter how thick your neck is really
False

>>271340
>This guy survived a bullet to the head so its okay to get shot in the head you won't die

>take unplanned one day complete break
>don't think about bjj at all
>come back to the gym
>completely forget everything, rolling feels like I'm completely new again, nothing feels like it's connecting, constantly worried about being knee'd or elbow'd where I'm barely attacking.

I'm 5 months in but why the fuck does this keep happening to me, it's only on unplanned breaks like days where I'm like fuck im sorta sore let me takes break today and I'll go at it tomorrow. is it burnout? I still love bjj but once I go to free rolls (or fuck even drills) it's like my mind just can't retain information or understand what the fuck is going on. need more sleep? need more food? (I've been eating like a lot more 500-1000+ calories so I don't think that's it) work burnout?

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>>271354
>should I invest in a bulletproof helmet when I know I'm getting into a gunfight?
>nah, guess I'll just die

5 months is long enough to understand the flow but not really long enough to have a foundation that you can build upon in every direction.

If you’re in an environment where you’re treading water or not progressing, pick one submission, use it for about month training 3-4 times a week.

The goal is to recognize every pathway in and out of that submission.

Use that to build your game out, this way when you’re going forward, you have a rock solid foundation for one situation and a bunch of ways to get to that situation.

Your coaches might not like this, your teammates might get tired of it, but you will not feel as lost when you come back to the gym because you’ll have a plan. Good luck on your journey

>>271413
Well this is bullshit because the ultimate plan is get dominant position first > mount > take the back and rnc

Or snatch whatever sub they give you. It's not hard.

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>>271408
you're forgetting everything because you're 5 months in my dude
>is it burnout?
ask again in 5 years

>>270585
Feels good man

>>270692
I wouldn't go to university just to get better at grappling. I guess physio if you want something that's also useful outside of the gym
Become a chiro if you like being an absolute cunt on the mats

>>271425
I mean I guess but I get in mindsets where it's like I feel like I'm slowly building on something and each day is focusing on upping my game but recently? I've just been feeling like a wet noodle. Just feel hella exhausted recently and I have no idea why. It's not even a I'm sore or exhausted, it's just that I don't have any juice/energy. Going to take 2-3 days off and see if that fixes it (kinda sucks since my deload would've hit next week and I wanted this to be the last productive strive before I chill)

>>271496
Do you really mean it?

srs what the fuck is so hard about implementing more livework into gym. my homegym is a growing place we got like 3 locations buncha people coming and were STILL doing dead drilling (atleast we have themes so its not pure TOTD) with a couple lackluster positional sparring rounds and then an open mat. im growing so tired of this and basically all the experienced guys either train elsewhere, just come to open mats or have their own little circles. wtf is so hard about just implementing more livework instead of doing useless drilling that only helps maybe the whitest of whitebelts and even for them its nearly useless because fucking noone learns effectively with the do A -> then B -> then C method of teaching. fuck im so tired im honestly just gonna shift into doing open mats if this shit doesnt change. seems like such a simple solution yet most gyms wont implement it. is it just that most people are npc's and content with wasting their training time or what

>>271533
How are they going to get you to keep paying a hundred buckaroos a month when you can get a blue belt in 6 months and a black in 4 years if they taught you properly??

>>271536
but why would someone getting a blue belt in 6 months and a bbb (big black belt) in 4 years not keep them a paying customer?
to give you the benefit of the doubt maybe this is why club based/nonprofit gyms are superior, they dont have to worry about customer retention

>>271538
Because if you get something quickly it seems like it doesn't matter as much. That's why people quit at blue because even that can take years.

why is there so many troll answers in here. i thought more niche obscure generals would have less retards

Anyone sign up for comp due to being in a bad spot and now just regretting it hard once life lightens up? In that boat and I'm half/half debating if I should come up with some excuse to dip. Joined this comp mostly with "fuck it i wanna get hurt, if something happens, idgaf it happens" but now that life is balancing out I'm sorta like "....huh I really don't want to get hurt now for a $5 medal" fuck me.

>>271611
Niche generals make it easy for one stubborn schizo/autismo to take over.

>>271611
Probably a mix of >>271623 and people that just relish the opportunity to reply to retarded white belt inquiries the way they would at the gym if it didn't affect their social standing. Which sure, I'd love to do too, but in a vacuum you can look at this like any scarcely attended class. Reply like an asshole and nobody's gonna show up

>>271533
Doing that requires work on the part of the guy running the class
It takes mental bandwidth to develop live practices
It's easy to just demonstrate your dance move and then let the class copy it just like karate

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So when people are inverting like this on me, I have the thought to just sprawl on them

But then they'd fuck their back/neck up right? Herniated disks etc

I don't know how to deal with this. Obviously I don't want to hurt my training partners, but what's the counter to when they stick their ass in your face like this?

>>271651
can't you do like a modified sprawl where you drop to your knees? that's what I usually do, they no longer have the leverage to tripod sweep but huh you are kinda right I never really just through of fuck it and drop your hips. probably not legal in comp but i'll go ask in tonight's class.

>>271612
Bitch ass comment

>>271651
just tickle their feet and laugh until they stop, or stop standing either and sit down

Any tips on rolling with spazzy white belts? I train with one once in a while and it's frustrating. Not for him but for me. I'll be completely stuck because he's constantly gas gas gas and by the time he gets tuckered out is when the 5 minutes is up and I'm just like fuckkkk because mentally I know I lost in points. He has a good offense though (like I'm struggling to escape if I'm a bad spot, but he can't really finish since he's forcing bad subs) but my escapes are shit because he'll spaz out and really keep me locked in. Good for me while rolling with him because I get to practice defense but as I said I'm always thinking in competition setting and I would've lost easily from points.

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Could you take him?

>>271819
So what you're saying is someone is better at jiu jitsu than you..

again with the troll answers

>>271819
just keep showing up

>>271824
It was an accurate response

>>271822
Genuinely asking do you guys think your grappling skill can take on a "genuine nutter" like this who does 5000 push ups a day and handstand push ups and is known to bend steel prison bars and 10 prison guards have to take him on at once?

>>271881
Despite the marketing hype and lies jijitsu is not some magical superpower that rewrites physics for the user
It's just a strategic path forward to maximize your odds, You still need a robust vessel to execute

Whenever people are asking me what they can do to get better at junitsu I say have you been hitting the weights and running sprints? And the answer is almost always no and I can look at them and say I knew that already

Don't bring a canoe to a naval battle and then be confused that you're getting overwhelmed by firepower

>>271902
Sooo... Do you think you can take him ?

>>271919
i would pull slx and sleem his knee

>>271923
I mean I know beating up Irish travellers, prison guards and other prisoners doesn't mean you're some high level MMA fighter but this guy is known as one of the hardest "nutters" alive who's fitness regime and reputation is insane. I wonder how the average black belt would do against him In a no holds barred MMA fight on concrete. I bet he wouldn't tap to neck cranks and he would fight through broken arms etc

Would love to see that.

>>271926
Will he agree to keeping it clean or is he going to bite and twist my dick?

>>271934
He isn't keeping it clean he's doing anything he can to win biting eye gouging nut grabbing... anything

>>271926
A bjj black belt typically has the standup skills of a judo blue belt at best and pulling a flying triangle on concrete has a good chance of smashing your shoulder even if the guy doesn't decide to slam you into it. Ditto for pulling guard, good luck rolling and sliding on the floor even if the guy isn't in the process of caving your face in from the top.

An actual standup grappler has a decent chance to take him on depending on size and physical conditioning so long as he doesn't eat a hook to the face while closing in. They'd probably be able to address dirty fighting a bit better than striking guys too, if they don't get instantly disabled by getting their achiles bitten off during an armbar or something.

>>271926
do you really mean it?

toenail finally completely ripped off but online it says I'm okay to keep rolling but it's sensitive as FUCK. How do I protect it while rolling? grappling socks? wrap with a bandaid + tape? i used tape with the broken nail and that shit was so painful taking out when it was time for showers.

>>271936
Then I don't really want to do that
I'm not interested in killing a man for fun

Yes I would win though

>>271937
>>271950
The duality of man

I've been startin bjj for 4weeks now, I now have a general understanding of positions and logic behind them, but my biggest struggle is my cardio. people say I'm not relax but how can I ? how do you stay relaxed and chill while having a guy trying to break my shit ? I dont wanna be the spazzy white belt but my lack of technique seems to automatically mean i'll muscle everything thus gassing myself out??? how to get out of this cycle beside binge watching techniques on yt ?

>>271995
I've been training around a year
When you spar you're not in danger all the time. Realise when you are in danger and what they're trying to do. This will come with experience

For example if you are in someone's closed guard. I see beginners then death grip the arms of the guy underneath and exert a lot of energy to wrestle the guys upper body for what? because they havent learnt to play the jiu jitsu game yet. What they should be doing is grabbing one arm with both their arms and then you have a clear mechanical advantage you don't need to struggle as much. And then you work to stand up from there. This is all of jiu-jitsu

Also it's not a fight to the death if you get caught in ANYTHING uncomfortable that is hurting or you don't know what you are doing especially neck/leg stuff then just tap and tap quickly. I even tap to arm triangles before they squeeze because I know it's done. If you are with a higher belt ask them to explain how to get out of one technique/pin they got you with

holy shit this general fucking sucks

>>271998
Yes, theres not much to talk about
The sport has been solved and nobody watches it as a spectator

>>271998
Just like bjj

>oh nooo this general sucks!!! it's not that one ""black belt"" making short pointless responses where he strokes his own dick anymore !!!

>>272045
Imagine being so insecure in your beliefs you need to question someone else's credentials

>>272048
T. Crying

Are there any subs you shouldn't try on brand new people?

>>272124
Leg locks, shoulder locks

>>272124
Wriat locks, neck compresions, soul stealer scarfhold

>>272139
>shoulder locks
why not? it's basically standard judo

>>272146
A beginner spazzes out in an armbar, he'll have to have it re-set in an ER and take two weeks off
A beginner spazzes out in a kimura, he'll need full shoulder reconstruction

>>272142
Why scarf hold?>>272146

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phwooar

Is sitting down to attempt a tripod sweep inherently more risky and less effective than traditional takedowns?

>>272173
getting on your back aka pulling guard you at least remove one variable. takedown you have no idea where you'll end up.

>>272169
Not a simple scarfhold, but a soulstealer scarfhold. If applied well people freak the fuck out. Even higher belts react badly to that move, new people never come back if you do that to them. Its not a choke per se, more like a drown? By compressing the chest people lose the ability to breathe little by little, every time they exhale they cant get that breath back, so they drown. People have wanted to throw hands after tapping to that. So like neck crsnks i just save them for spazzy assholes.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2s0VxxSNu-g&pp=ygUiam9zaCBiYXJuZXR0IHNvdWxzdGVhbGVyIHNjYXJmaG9sZA%3D%3D

>>272216
Tapping to pressure is fine. It shows the power of jiu jitsu

I've tapped to a body triangle where I almost puked and a mount where my arm was trapped and I couldn't breathe. When I get my first pressure tap it'll be a good day

Neck cranks though I don't do although all guillotines are pretty much cranks

I got sweeped in multiple locals in a row. I'm feeling so fucking disappointed in myself. A lot of the time that happens is I play defensively and end up on the bottom and take on a lot of sub attempts. Then when I try sweeping or getting out I have the last minute or two where it feels like I can really show what I'm made of but I lose by points or I can't get out. Only got three weeks until my next comp.

>1. Standup
I always have a tendency to just sit down when taking the back doesn't work. I never really try any frontal takedowns since it feels way too risky for me. I'd rather try to play on the ground than just play grip fighting. I'm just trying to see what else I can learn so even if I do pull guard, what to get into immediately so I'm not playing "oh fuck he's on me".
>2. Sweeps / Back escapes / Mount escapes.
I keep failing my sweeps or escapes so I end up getting remounted and that's more points out. I think it's just the mentality of not really committing but fuck something I feel like escaping mount is less miserable than smashed half. It takes me WAY too fucking long to reverse the situation though, once I go for it my time is done.
>3. Submission Defense
I'd like to think this is okay in my end, I've been in some really bad scenarios but I was able to save myself. I haven't really lost to a sub yet and it's probably the one thing I'm proud of.
>4. Attacks
I know everyone says to not focus on this, but there's a lot of times I'm losing pressure on the top and getting flinged off or can't finish a sub. I'm really trying to focus on Mount -> Arm Bar or Mount -> Gift Wrap -> RNC as my finisher. My transition to the arm bar is so trash though, I need a better resource for it.
Any other tips to improve? I don't want to keep losing comps but fuck the way I'm training, I just feel like I hit a fucking wall. I feel like I just don't have the explosiveness to do well.

>>272251
I'm just a filthy white belt but have you tried sacrifice throws like collar drag they're easy to do + high percentage and will at least create a scramble or your can try an ankle pick off of it

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Why weren't these guys spiked on their necks and paralyzed like that other guy

>>272255
I think my problem is my guard game is absolute trash. I'd rather go half or literally even anything else. I waste so much energy in there without much reserve. It's probably one thing I'm really going to focus on for the two weeks.

I'm re-watching a lot of my matches and I think my main problem is I have a tendency to keep them hold on top of me just because it's easier to keep them immobile rather than risk there arms or weight being free. I think in my next few roles I'm going to focus on "no be there" by just trying to squeeze and fore myself out instead of holding and waiting.

>>272258
>my guard game is absolute trash.
>guard is absolutely trash

The only function guard has is to enter leglocks, it's not a legitimate attacking position at the high level outside of that one specific utility
You should always be trying to wrestle for top position

>>272262
Noted. I tried the games where you do submissions from guard but I can't get a good grip at all. Feels like my best opportunity is getting an arm triangle grip and then using that to transition. I think I'm going to start playing more "aggressive" during my rolls though. Keeping hold of a fucker and playing defense sucks so much fucking ass....

Damn I just realized I made a lot of typos when I wrote that earlier. I must've been really tired lmao.

>>272263
If you bottom leg isn't physically being stapled or turked you can just stand up any time you want to

Never play guard by choice, if someone wants you down it's their responsibility to keep you there. You wouldn't stand in front of someone and let them punch you. You'd move

So do the body check, if you are down and you have the ability to put weight on your bottom leg and stand up just do it

A few days after my comp I just realized the biggest reason I'm disappointed in myself is because I barely showed anything. It's like MMA getting knocked out in the first punch. I feel embarrassed as fuck and I'm debating on dropping out of my next tourney just until I get more experience. (but my brain is also being "don't be a bitch and just go") but I don't want another disgraceful showing like that again...
>>272264
I'll note that down. I think I end up getting hella pinned in side control so even if I bump or try to use my leg to escape shit doesn't work. Even if I manage to get them into half guard, it's half guard so I'm STILL fucked.

>>272347
>even if I bump or try to use my leg to escape shit doesn't work
Correct, it doesn't work

Why try to go back to guard? You should be trying to leave

>>272365
any resources or seminars?

>>272347
How long have you been training and how many days a week do you train?

>>272365
You can't "just leave" against someone even slightly competent

I'm sure all the judo Olympians and bjj pros would "just escape" to avoid pins if it was so easy

>>272369
With side control it kinda works, because it's not a very good pin to begin with, unless the opponent is a lot bigger and stronger. You can generally create some sort of opening where you'll be able to start turning to turtle and posturing up. Unless you're gift-wrapped or something, then you're kinda screwed

>>272368
6-8 times a week. It's been 4-5 months. I'm a little slow in learning technique though. I think another problem I'm noticing is the intensity for comp vs regular rolls is significant. I'm already in "oh fuck oh fuck can't get injured" mode during comp and I've gotta cut that shit out. Guess it's just experience. Haven't been subbed out yet so that's the only thing I'm happy about but getting pinned until the last 20 seconds makes me feel like a fucking loser. Which I am. I won't stay to be a loser though hopefully...

>>272369
Of course you can. They struggle because they're playing the same bad game with each other instead of redefining the terms
>>272366

https://youtu.be/-o-jqPJhEtQ?si=E2YCkkyUD3vkdWdZ

>>272377
Someone competent will just collapse your frames. The real redpill is "Escaping isn't supposed to be easy"
if youve been pinned and flattened you're basically half buried and you need to work hard to improve your situation

>>272381
I'm more competent at doing this than anyone else is at stopping me from doing it

>>272377
>They struggle because they're playing the same bad game with each other
>yeah these guys whose livelihoods depend entirely upon winning matches purposely choose suboptimal, losing strategies instead of winning more because???
You are such a fucking pseud it's hard to put into words

>>272382
So you're a black belt framing against a white belt gg

>>272398
Yes
https://youtu.be/zFXwQt4X0KU

Because they're retarded. Maybe these grand masters will earn a stripe on their white belt after this banger of a match. Anyone trying to copy what Brazilians say to do is retarded

>>272399
Seethe more

>>272403
Why aren't you placing in adcc with your unstoppable pin escapes?

>>272411
Such an opportunity, training hours a day and blasting steroids for a chance to win $10,000 every two years!
Totally worth it dedicating your life to winning a title in a sport nobody watches or cares about lmfao

The kind of person that would bite at that value proposition tells you everything you need to know about them and why you shouldn't listen to them about anything ever

can i just get more advice ;-;
stop fighting guys

>>272412
>Uhmmm the unstoppable pin escapes work but they wont work on them because they took roids lol
>I could totally be the greatest bjj player in the world but I don't want to because it's not worth it and I totally could but it's for idiots who only make 10k!! I'm sure Gordon Ryan's net worth is 10k and not millions from sponsorship deals!! I could totally just stand up against him but Id only earn 10k so not worth my time!

Schizophrenic cope

>>272422
Gordon Ryan is literally 29 years old and has to wear adult diapers from overdosing antibiotics to fight staph and gut inflammation from blasting gear
You should not envy him

>>272419
That guy is just a crab in a pot frustrated he's not getting better and refusing to admit he got taken for a ride by a grifter
Its a tough pill to swallow that you put time money and effort into something and got lead astray but the second best time to plant a tree is right now

I'm a credentialed head instructor at a professional level MMA gym. I come here to help because I care.

>>272428
>I'm a credentialed head instructor at a professional level MMA gym
which gym?

>>272430
I ain't gonna dox myself lil nigga

>>272428
So your magic pin escapes work on everyone but people who have gut inflammation and have to wear diapers?