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Why are people no longer buying sports cars?
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But they are, just not muh JDM. Look at the Ford, Chevy, Dodge lineups. Even the everyday grocery getters and point A to Bs are getting ST and SRT badges. Chevy even sells the SS four door which starts nearly twice the price of a Camaro, only comes in auto and costs nearly as much as a base vette.

tl;dr
People are buying American
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Because sport trim economy cars have gotten really fucking good.
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>>18711018
this
must be sad to need all that space just to drive around your wife's son in
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Biggest most money making generation is aging and owns a family
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>>18708283
They are, it's just always been a niche market.
Your buyers either have to be wealthy or young enough to not give a fuck about the associated costs.
Dealers know that the "sports car" segment of their brand tends to operate at a loss, made up for by the more practical models.

*outlasts your domestic ford/chevy/dodge*
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>>18708292
https://youtu.be/YdXmIT1oa5U documented million mile Chevy and countless million mile diesel engine domestics. that's why you types always cherry pick and say huurr show me a million mile gas engine! obviously, if most people are doing long haul type work with their truck 9 times out of 10 it's with a diesel.
here's a challenge for you yellow fags: show me a sub 1990 Toyota that isn't in a dealer climate LOL since they all seem to disintegrate where it rains
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>>18709368
>made no evidence-based or objective point THE post
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>>18711186
>dealer climate
autocorrect. meant desert
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>>18707530
Is that the new Honda Ridgeline?
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>>18710750
My town in a nutshell

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How does this image make you feel?
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>>18709112
SA had BMW 333i for some reason.
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>>18709105
i actually dont mind this
if you blacked out the lower part it would look pretty cool
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>>18709097

Oh boy here comes the ex golf II driver. I cant wait for him to make a burnout!
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>>18710099
You only come across as a badgewhore if your car is dirty and dented.
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>>18710099
>How can you avoid the stigma associated with owning a BMW?
lol, try owning a Ferrari.

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Toyota General
>Maintenance work edition

>Toyota, Lexus, Scion & Daihatsu questions
>Toyota, Lexus, Scion & Daihatsu blogfagging
>Toyota, Lexus, Scion & Daihatsu memes
>Toyota, Lexus, Scion & Daihatsu pics

>List of Toyota model codes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Toyota_model_codes

Sister Honda thread
>>>/o/hg

Zeemaps

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>>18705973
Pretty cool. Got any interior pics? I bet it's a nice, simple design.
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>>18705973
Could be maf or map sensor
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>>18711051
If I'm thinking of this correctly, carbed cars don't have a maf or map sensor, because the carb is where you mix the air and fuel.
That's probably the right line of thinking tho, and he just need to tinker with the carb, which is easier imo.
Could be as simple as he has the idle set too low.
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>>18711805
Yea you're right. He just needs to rebuild the carb
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>>18641341
mirin those blobs

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>Only roads are arrow straight and flat for miles
>No public dirt roads, just farmland
>despite having a minuscule population, there's cops fucking every street
> only nearby road courses are Mid-ohio and Indianapolis, both of which are $250-400 for a track day and require you to do DE first and can't even use your own car until then
>Used to live in eastern Pennsylvania, hooned in the mountains, and did track days at Pocono speedway's road course for $90

Deliver me from this hell, i'm seriously considering making a 15 hour drive roundtrip next weekend just to go back to the pocono's and hoon.
does anyone know of any actual roads in the midwest where I can have fun that's worth taking a roadtrip for?
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>>18712052
Take 71 south to 75 and get off on 25 w in ky. Bout a 6 hr drive from clev.
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>>18712052
South eastern oh near the border has some good twists.
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>>18712219
im in NW parts of ohio tho so rip
A friend told me about OH route 555 which is super popular with squids, I might check it out and it's not ludicrously far away from me
https://youtu.be/V654_BZ89tI?t=1m37s
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>>18712052
In what universe does Wisconsin border Ohio?
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>>18712721
i just noticed that lmao

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do it you cucks
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97' single cab chevy k1500 with a 383 stroker kit and forged pistons, crank, cam and rods pushing about 345whp on 33's, maybe under 15 second quarter mile?
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>>18709774
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Bingo. What did I win other than shittiest shitbox award?
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>>18711991
Post dyno for 200hp proofs

>tfw no money for car things

Tfw no turbo manifold

Pls buy me things reeee
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>>18712746
Fucking welfare queen get a job NIGGER

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what is /o/s oppinion on chiptuning?
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>>18711931
Just get a car that has the amount of power you want in the first place
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>>18712572
http://www.autospeed.com/cms/article.html?&A=112726
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>>18712628
I think OP is referring to the modern kind of chip tuning that you see with fords and shit. the fiesta st can get 14% more power under factory warranty with a tune™
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>>18712645
>>18712445
yeah im talking about chips like those dte ones that do a little more than a resistor. thing is im thinking about waiting if my cars goes through inspections and then bumping the 136hp up to 160hp with a 400€ chip the legal way

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if you just bought a new car, how can you determine what data your car collects and sends to the botnet?

read this today...

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/02/no-one-has-a-clue-whats-happening-with-their-connected-cars-data/

are all the "shared" data disclosed somewhere, like in the contract, before you buy?
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>>18703823
Why should I care if it does?
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>>18708306
>First thing I did on my new car was rip out the microphones.
I have a laptop with a camera and mic, so I put a piece of black tape over the camera lens and microphone hole.
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>>18703823
if you just bought a new car, how can you determine what data your car collects and sends to the botnet?
All of it.

They'll know when you fart.
They'll know when you speed.
They'll know when you go through Mickey D's and order a dozen big macs to stick your dick into after you drive to your favorite spot in the forest where you believe nobody will notice you eating twelve shitty burgers that taste of cardboard and half a cup of thin watery cum while you blame Trump for not having a girlfriend you can try to convince the holocaust is real.
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>>18703823
>if you just bought a new car, how can you determine what data your car collects and sends to the botnet?
As others have pointed out in past /o/ threads about the invasiveness of modern cars, "all" the data is collectible upon command. The various car companies have their own proprietary systems for collecting data and interacting with your car. BMW has been working on more powerful anti-theft features which even have the corporate database server send commands to y our car to disable it in special security lockdown mode. Unlike normal shutoff, devices that have received the security lockdown command are especially disobedient until they receive the special command from the corporate server to exit from security lockdown mode.

I suppose that future cars could be like your cable TV services. You subscribe to features you want in your car as well has have on demand features you can buy. GM OnStar has already had some "on demand" features sold through its OnStar system which I currently use. The cost of premium audio systems is small if ALL cars contained the added hardware of the premium system. If the car owner wanted to upgrade, the code would be sent to allow the stereo system to play with added sound quality and subwoofer. When the subscription fee ran out, the sound quality would drop back down to normal and the subwoofer would stop working. The advantage to the car maker is the potential sales of system upgrades without physically taking the car apart and re-installing new hardware which in some cases is impossible because welded unibody parts might be different. There is cost savings if all parts are the same without restock choices during manufacturing.

Tesla does this already. The owner has purchased the hardware but the features are not available without paying extra subscription fees. For example, battery capacity is limited, but the extra travel range is unlocked if the extra fee and/or subscription is paid.
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>>18703823
>are all the "shared" data disclosed somewhere, like in the contract, before you buy?
Many big brother Homeland Security items need not be disclosed to the general public. So, you paid for big brother features but can't use them directly. The only time you "benefit" from them is being the "victim" of what you paid for. We've been seeing various companies using excuses like that in the past decade. It's unfortunate that the general population and legislators went along with the emotion and allowed such law changes.

Intel processors have a backdoor that allows individual processors to be shut down by the government. It'd be interesting if all future guns evolved to have control chips.

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Ok today I was in my fiat 500 abarth. I was trying to reverse out of my parking spot. I checked behind me and I thought nothing was there. I was reversing at half a mph and I hit a car that was ILLEGALLY parked there. The nigger parked right behind my car and I couldn't see it because of muh blind spots. Is insurance gonna fuck me or her?

pic related, the driver looked like this
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>>18712426
See, you cannot look over your shoulder because the b pillar blocks your view
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>>18712392
I have a very microscopic crease dent on my bumper and a scuff mark
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Also how much would it cost to fix a small crease dent and the scratches on my bumper?
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>>18712436
No it doesnt. there is a tiny blind spot from them but an entire fucking car can not hide in it. that's why you have wing mirrors dumbass.
>Source: Learned to drive in a Fiat 500 T
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>>18712629
I was parked tightly next to 2 SUV's with my doggo in the back, I legitimately could not see the car behind me. So far what I can tell is that it would either be my fault, or the fault is split.

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what is /ourguy/ hiding inside his garage /o/?
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>>18700856
Oh fuck /fit/ x /o/ got my sides facilitated
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Need help finding new tires
>Close to $100
>Good performance

Previously running Yokohama YK580
Pic related 540i
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>>18712420
Avus accend yokohama
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>>18712420
Continental ExtremeContact DW/DWS is always the answer for all season tires for that price point

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I've wanted one of these for as long as I can remember. I've been to Subaru 10 times to look at every trim, color, and option combo, finally paid off all student loans so the price doesn't bother me, I don't even care about the meme that they're for 22 year old vapebros (almost 30yo now)...so why haven't I been able to bring myself to do it? I'm falling victim to people calling it "shit cuz it's not an evo" in the comments section of every youtube review but I can't figure out what's equally comparable performance-wise at the same price point that isnt a used M5 that is going to blow up at any given time.
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you looking at the STi or the regular WRX?

the STI seems like a bad deal, it costs around $40k and has an engine that's over a decade old. for that price I would get a Focus RS or a Golf R.

the regular WRX seems like a good deal though, there really aren't any faster 4 door cars under $30k you could get.
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>>18711924
I already have an '09 Legacy that's generally flawless, I just dont want a project car.

>>18711937
No one will let me test drive one because they say people won't buy one if it has more than 3 miles on it haha. Maybe I'll have to wave a check around and say please I'm serious.

>>18711947
Yeah it would be STI. I've driven plenty of WRXs (2015+) but I feel like after several months I would say why didnt I just spend the extra 10 grand to get the sti, even the ej257 is ancient.
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>>18711969
What the fuck. I went to the local Subaru dealership to look at some random used car they had, decided on a whim to try out the WRX and they tripped over themselves getting the keys
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>>18711911
get MY2018 STI like I did. It's absolutely superior to shitty 2015-2017 in every imaginable way. the new DCCD and brakes make a huge difference.

-fellow 30y old guy who just bought a Subbie despite the fact that I've always wanted Evo X...
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>>18712403
You mean to test drive it? They offer me WRXs to test all the time, the only person who ever offered me an STI to try was a younger guy but all the ones they had ended up being sold so I couldnt drive them. Everyone else says no.

>>18712431
Yeah if I do it'll definitely be MY2018. I'm looking at a white limited with the Weathertech mats and short shifter (I can't feel a difference personally when I sit in the car vs stock STI, but whatever). What did yours come with and do you have any big pros/cons so far?

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What's the point of buying a Lexus when you can just buy a loaded Toyota and not have such a gaudy exterior and interior?
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>>18709125
>its only sold as a scion
Even if that were true at all, Toyota sells other RWD pickups and AWD V8 SUVs.
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>>18704650
xse is pretty nice, and way roomier
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>>18709872
And it doesn't look like something it isn't
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>>18709010
> Bimmer and Lexus have intrinsically equal reliability

I like BMW, but you're way off.
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Was driving behind a Tarago with a Lexus badge on the back yesterday.
It’s not a Lexus

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Welcome to Mercury General, wherein we discuss the greatest of all premium luxury brands, Mercury!

Mercs, as the cars are affectionately known, have a well deserved reputation for being seriously cool street cruisers with understated style and luxury.

Plz limit discussion to Mercury, Merkur, Capri or platform stablemates.
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>>18712343
That's what we call freedom son. Once you stick a Mercury badge on a Mazda it becomes American, therefore free. What you glimpsed there was the shining brilliance of Liberty's flame.
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>>18712171
My nigga



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