new Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupé6000 lbsall electric200 mi of rangegarish whorehouse lightingthe whole thing is a screenwe heard you love cheap black plastic, since nothing says German luxury like cheap black plastic so enjoy your new Toyota - I mean Mercedes - I mean AMGwhat were they smoking designing this?how many do you think they will sell?probably starts at around 180k is my guess.
>>28869160brown tech workers will fucking love it
>>28870009>black glossthat is ricer trim, the regular plastic is still matt ASA like on all audis since 1980
>>28869160Mercedes interiors are so fucking tacky now. it looks like it has a bunch of shitty mods from pep boys and Amazon installed. There have got to be engineers there that are absolutely seething over these ridiculous riceburner fartcan Civic interiors.
>>28869168Mercedes are heavy as shit to begin with. The TT v8 gas version of this car is 5300 lbs.
What does /o/ think of sub 6' beds?
>>28871993They haul air just as good as six foot beds and make it easier to park at the mall.
>>28871993If you weren't low-T you would buy a station wagon.
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anyone ever do a brake booster delete? sick of nanny state technology bullshit getting between me and the road.
>>28869681ABS can distribute torque in ways your foot cant, which makes it better for anything in the lateral direction> no ABSwith your foot to the floor it will send the same pressure to all 4 wheels> ABSmight send less pressure to the inside wheels while sending more to the outside wheelsmost good ABS systems will activate sooner if steering or yaw is detected to help aid in steerability
>>28871517Race cars should have individual brake controls for all four wheels. You'd probably have to do it with paddles on the wheel or something.
You can outbrake an abs in certain conditions. And of course not all abs units are the same. Where the abs will always win is in the most important place - where you aren't prepared and have to slam the brakes NOW to avoid an accident.
>>28871702It's harder to out brake ABS than people portray it. There's not a simple point on the pedal, the threshold is constantly changing as speed, tire heat, and brake heat change. In one braking event the threshold can vary by a lot.One wheel hits a bump and loses traction? You've locked up that wheel.My car doesn't have ABS, but I wish it did. ABS is great, but when they add stability control to it I'd rather go without both.
>>28869469You can on snow and ice. You have to or you aren't going to remain in control of the vehicle. If you just stand on the brake like a mindless NPC in those conditions you are going to get rekt
perfection
>>28870292Most overrated car in the history of motorsport
>>28870292Sorry, OP here, I meant to post the type 137
>>28870893You can are argue that Audi Quattro wasn't as good as people say .But from overall impact Audi Quattro is one of most important cars ever made . Audi Quattro transformed 4x4 from niche to mainstream changing both motorsport and car industry forever . Audi Quattro stand in same group as Model T, Mustang , Miura and Golf GTI .
>>28870877These 2 cars only share headlights, taillights and the silhouette
>>28870954>snickers in svenska
BMW is truly way ahead of its European competitors. First hydrogen cars, now robots building their new cars. I can't wait for 33% cheaper BMWsBut when exactly did BMW surpass its main competitors Mercedes and VW (Porsche, Audi)? It feels like it was more equal just 15 years ago
>>28862830Fuel card pls
The i3 looks so cool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thGp39PKL8k
Sedan game changer
>>28870949>>28870803looks like an astra
>>28870803>hiding the interiorits the ix3 interior with a hand full of different steering wheels every new bmw will get the panoramic display
Why aren't (you) hoarding chlorinated parts cleaner before it's too late?
>>28871901It's still possible and easy to order online for now, but locally it's hard to come by. All of the major local retail and hardware stores no longer carry it and the one hardware store in town that has it wants almost $20/can.
>>28871895Canada banned this stuff, I can't buy good brake cleaner anywhere. Can't have shit ova here, they even took away my Tamiya spray paints...
>>28871895>paying the goy taxi'd rather just make chloroform with acetone and bleach.
>>28871895Wow I had no idea this was happening. Feels like R12 all over again.
>>28871895I just use gasoline in a sure-shot as my go-to cleaner for nasty greasy slimy stuff. Spray it on, scrub it around with a stiff brush or scotchbrite pad and blast it off with the air compressor. I have acetone in another sure-shot for fancy shit.
Fuck this war
>>28871984>that's why modern gas engines to /o/'s dismay are making eveyrthing have all the torque at low rpmwut. people have been wanting fuckhueg NA engines in passenger cars for a long time like they used to do in the 60s and 70s
>Fuck this warYeah. Religions, militaries, governments, corporations, everything - I hate them all!
>>28871980That hasn't been true for a few years now.
>>28871658>they will get unfathomably angry at these and not come anywhere close to seeing the ironyThe real irony is you guys saying the president doesn't control the gas prices until magically he now does.
>>28871989They do but the great cuckening fuel crisis of the 70s made us go smaller, 4 cylinder engines were just known to have no balls in the sizes of 1.5L to 2L, now they have all can have a fat set of nuts on a 1.5L engine due to turbocharging being really good.
Seems like a pretty good value
>>28869507Tesla are a status symbol for people with very large IQ to wealth ratio. If you genuinely like those cars you are no doubt an insufferable hipster techbro.
>>28869662>>28869672>>28869678>.t retards with zero reading comprehensionfuel capacity =/= fuel efficiency The other anon said fuel CAPACITY and yes, after 30 years ANY CAR will have the same CAPACITY it always did. This board is full of illiterate, knuckle dragging troglodytes.
>>28870411The Chinese tested this with a wide array of EVs. Most loss more than 2/3 their range in standard driving conditions in -20C weather. I think Tesla's with the heat pumps made up most of the top 4 and a couple BYD models where they were in the 30-40% range in the cold. Still a huge hit. Imagine picking up your used EV with 80% capacity and then losing 70% of that in the winter. Doesn't make sense in Canada. I'm waiting for semi solid state batteries with >1000km EPA range before I jump in.
>>28869525>>28869580>>28869591samefag
>>28869699What is a "Battery Overhaul", not trolling google is just unhelpful. I thought with EVs you just replace the batteries. Assuming we replace the batteries, that's like a $10k job. Rebuilding an engine is maybe $2k, if you don't machine the block. I'm rebuilding a Porsche engine right now and even with a new block and the Porsche tax and buying chinesium rebuild tools the rebuild is $2.5k. If you were to go to a shop, they would just throw in a new engine, which is <$5k for most cars. Unless you're replacing the batteries on a citroen ami you're not gonna be close to engine rebuild/replace costs.Like EVs clear ICEs in cost to run, but rebuild costs are not really comparable.
What is the final solution to the McPherson struts problem? Could the government truly incentivize manufacturers to wholly discontinue cheap ass struts and add double wishies to even the cheapest poorbox?
>>28868964>you have to drop 250,000+ to get a boned car in 2026New Miatas start at $30k, bones on all 4. BRZs are about the same, bones in the rear.Lots of things are multilink which is somewhat like more complicated wishbones. Though I prefer wishbones, easier to keep aligned.
>>28871917>transmission eats itself after 100k miles
>>28871939The transmission failures of Hondas are way overblown, there's so many of them out there and of course the many shitheads who can't into doing a simple drain and fill every so often have got the most to say about how unreliable the automatic transmission of a Honda is.
>>28871942>The transmission failures of Hondas are way overblownI personally got fucked out of $3000 for the car plus another $1000 by a piece of shit attorney that was gonna "write a letter for $50".
>>28871944oops
Mother is insisting I get a black f150 or forest 4runner in order for me to get a gf so she can selfishly have a grandchild. She read somewhere that these vehicles are highly attractive to women. Im 33 khv were I typically drive 100 miles a day. Is there an alternative to my 15 yr old TDI that will get good mpg but also bpg(baddies per gallon) heh? Also this a good time to brag how you met your gf so I can have hope.
>>28871699I've never been in a financing thread in my life. >>28871686And no, I could not have gotten more women with a F-150. I know this because I borrowed my dad's Lincoln F-150 and, except for one comment from a girl who was throwing herself at me before I drove it that one time, it made no difference. I had a sports car. I had a truck. I had a shitbox. The only one to resonate was the shitbox, and because the shitbox became meaningful to her because it let her take her life back. No car is going to get you a woman. Being a good person is going to get you a woman.
>>28870502the most amount of attention a car I drove received from girls was a 2004 TJ Wrangler with work done on it/o/ calls it a faggot car but make of that what you will
Get a Forester then turn them.
>>28871550milf without the kids? now that's a damn idea
>>28871855this is the sad reality. no car will ever impress a woman unless:>they care about cars>it's a wranglerbut it means you have to drive a jeep so is that really worth it? i used to drive a shitbox honda fit, the greatest car ever made, and the only comment that woman ever had about that car was to ask if it was a "race car" because it was stick.
>>28871864an insecure tradie started it though >>28871766
>>28871931>wah mommy he started it
>>28871890>The tradie gets to enjoy life to the fullest.Disagree. The entire culture is about maxing out your time in and working non stop. I wotked unskilled then structural welding cert. Worked retarded hours. At this job I can tell my boss I don't want to be there Monday on Friday and he'll just tell me to put it in. It's so much nicer and better for my family than being a shitty tradie. Yes I make less. No I don't care. >>28871904So you admit I get paid for nothing and have a better life. Your argument against my easy life is skynet replacing me. Sounds like a fantasy.
>>28871951>Woah dude you're so insecureThe tradie literally cried about no work being done in entire states because they bought more cuvs than trucks and we're the insecure one? I love my do nothing ai job.
>>28871954Dude just stop posting, I'm starting to get embarrassed for you. Sit down later and think about why this is making you so upset.
Welcome to 4chan's Offroad General - where high ground clearance meets low IQ. If it hasn't rolled over yet, you aren't trying hard enough. Post your 4x4 trucks and SUVs. This thread is for the guys who actually leave the pavement and have the broken CV axles to prove it.Previous thread: >>28756649
>>28870974power bottom you stupid cuck
>>28871000How do you not recognize Mel Gibson?
Beep
>>28871932White girls in birkenstocks with socks is my weaknesst. Western Washington University alumni
>>28871959I hate that style so much.
For the competition. Also, reminder that the Black Series is the fastest street legal factory car on the burgerking.The lap record was even done on a wet track lol!
I mean a one that tolerates potholes, has a usable but not necessarily big trunk, is fun to drive at speeds that don't make you lose your driving licence and won't make people take photos of you like Ferrari. Preferably manual and 4 seats.
>>28870542toyota cressida with a manual swap
>>28870542miata :)
WRX and WRX STi. You can find a early '15-'17 <100k mile STi for $14-20k all day long and it has the best steering/shifter feel of any car in that price range; sometimes you can even find them with recently rebuilt engines too. If you pay a little more ($22-30k) it can get you into a '22-'25 WRX which has better mpg and reliability but worse steering and slightly worse handling (no LSDs). Even with the 300hp a STi has its enough on the street; spend the $2-3000 doing the bulletproofing mods (oil pan/pickup/baffle is $800, radiator is $400, IAG AOS is $400, spend the remainder on fixing any other issues like the timing belt/water pump if it wasn't done or steering rack). The short gearing makes them fun.
>Dodge Challenger trunk: 16.2cu.ft>Ford Crown Vic trunk: 20.6cu.ft>Kia Stinger trunk: 23.3cu.ft, 40.9cu.ft with the seats downI've carried 8ft lumber in my Stinger all the time, 10ft boards fit as well but they have to rest up against the dash.Hard to beat a Stinger GT when it comes to daily driver convenience.>22mpg on my commute>365hp is more than enough to get yourself in trouble and overtake on onramps>rear-biased AWD to handle rough conditions, otherwise drives like a RWD sedan>4 doors and 5 seats for driving adults with legs if needed>Comfy leather interior, heated and cooled seats with suede on some trims>every modern tech convenience without being a self-driving botnet>heavy but still less than modern pig fat German boats or ChargersComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>28871928First gen g30 540i is the same weight and has more power and rear legroom plus all the same tech gimmicks, clean ones starting to get into the 20k range
>1.3 liter Isuzu 3-cylinder turbo diesel engine placed in the rear>.163 cD due to flush under tray, sealed front end, cameras instead of side mirrors>GM claimed the airflow through the engine bay and out of the rear apertures actually increased pressure behind the car>2 electric motors; one driving the front wheels and the other a starter motor that balanced the crankshaft and gearbox speeds>80 mpg combined
>>28871563Again, it's predicted on something that isn't actually happening. I never even said EVs weren't better holy shit. How many times do I have to say this? I'm just saying they are not zero emission, most electricity IS from burning fossil fuels, and switching to EVs will increase pollution from electrical power plants.Y'all keep trying to put words in my mouth.I need to see real goddamn proof, and when you guys are speculating on everything being renewable and the same weight I just am not going to believe anything you say.Why don't you ban cruise ships, or tax obesity? Or any number of other things? Because you've been trained to think that gas cars are evil. You aren't engineers, you're just going off what some lib arts journalists said. Reality is that fossil fuel use for electricity, as a total, is growing
>>28871567>it's predicted on something that isn't actually happeningYou mean like EVs increasing coal and natural gas production? >they are not zero emissionthey don't produce emissions themselves, and they can get their energy entirely from renewables, so that makes them pretty zero emissions as far as energy consumption is concerned. >most electricity IS from burning fossil fuelsThis isn't evidence that EVs will directly cause more emissions from these sources. this is an assumption.>I need to see real goddamn proof, where is the proof of the EV fossil fuel increase?>you guys are speculating on everything being renewableYou're speculating on the mere existence of plants at all, and i'm saying EVs don't have to rely on them. so they are zero emissions vehicles, in both the energy they used and from their method of propulsion.>Why don't you ban cruise ships, or tax obesity? Why don't we ban shitposting. why don't we enforce adult bedtimes by law?
>>28871571>You mean like EVs increasing coal and natural gas production?Holy shit. You still think that moving cars from gas to EV wouldn't make electrical plants emit more when clearly most are powered by fossil fuels?Explain that.>hey don't produce emissions themselvesNo shit, they're batteries, they store electricity made elsewhere, that's the whole gimmick. That's exactly what I'm saying. They put the blinders on your eyes to sell you a product, a product that sends everything you do to Palantir.
>>28871575>Explain that.Already did. renewable energy exist. the energy saved from not refining gasoline for passenger cars doesn't vanish.>they store electricity made elsewhereand that electricity doesn't have to come from natural gas or coal. where is the evidence that EVs are directly causing more pollution from these sources? why can't you link a single one?
This car was part of a broader program called the Partnership for a New Generation of Vehicles that involved the major automakers and the National Research Council. It was done in the later years of the Clinton administration.Ford and Chrysler produced workable concepts as well. Chrysler had an interesting idea with large molded plastic body panels, but it doesn't look like it went anywhere.