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I would like a small, retro style camera for hobbyist / snap shitting type photography. Image quality is important to me, but not the end all, be all. I do not want a full frame type camera such as the ZF. I already have a D850, and actually owned a ZF for several months, before getting rid of it as the lack of grip and overall hugeness made it very unfun to walk around and shoot with. Between the OM-5 and some Fuji cam, which is the best choice?
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>>4488729
>>4488680
He's alive he posted on /k/ a while ago. He has a Z7 and keeps shilling H&K.

>>4488731
Better cameras are also fun, spastic ESL bro, not just the em5iii re-re-release. Nice buyers remorse doe.
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>>4488729
Accusing better photographers of being zoophiles is rude. Poor 8x10 eggGod gets the same treatment. Is it all you?
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>>4488669
I don't think his tests were scientific enough.
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>>4488737
I member
>dog didnt move
>indoors
>t-the lighting changed
Larger pixels having better shadow recovery and more sensitivity was already known to real niggas anyways
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>>4488745
>shadow recovery
either you're too retarded to get a proper exposure in camera or you're retarded to think that shadows need any recovery
it's a sign of the autistic mind to try to show everything in a picture

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I was the anon thay said i fucked up my first roll of film like 2 months ago. Well, I got the roll of film back, and the light had only ruined like 8 photos so, 16 were pretty ok, besides looking like shit because I'm new to this. I especially liked this photo, but it looks kinda retarded.
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>>4488685
Prove it.
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>>4488687
im giving you more education than your parents ever did here. say "thank you for the advice, anon" first.
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>>4488688
Woah no need to be so sassy. Thank you for the advice, now show me some of your work
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>>4488688
Stating the obvious is not advice, snapshitter.
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>>4488689
This

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If you had a time machine, what historical event would you shoot?
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>>4485966
Well soon more people will start paying attention to the fact that everyone who knows anything about anything has been increasingly pointing out that it's overvalued to fucking bejeezus and back, & then you'll get your chance.
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>>4484962
The yearly Rothschild sacrifice parties in Antarctica
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>>4484967

fpbp

If I had a time machine, I would have gone back and shot more portraits of my brother before glioblastoma took him.

forever 30
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>>4488402
mofo was ugly like a sin lmao
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>>4488402
Sorry for your loss. Hope you still have a few of him.
Death is just another stage in life.
Stay strong Shuggie

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Random photos you took at night
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>>4487466
>Focus stacking and lower exposure in post?
Not a bad idea if you shoot static scenes.

A strong diffusion filter will soften up the sun stars, but the end result is messy and probably not what you're looking for.
Finding an optimal lens for the task is another option. Like the anon above me suggested a lens that has rounded aperture blades (dedicated portrait lenses often use those to prioritize shape of bokeh balls) might be of use here. I'd just add that increasing the number of blades creates a similar effect. Lenses that have a high number of blades are better at keeping the round aperture shape as you stop them down.
Some kind of a slow, wide kit zoom will also have decent depth of field wide open, though might not be up to standard in optical quality .
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>>4487466
>Focus stacking
Only good for anything that doesn't move. Can still produce some weird artefacts. Try it but be prepared for either some fucky nonsense you hope isn't obvious or to put in some work in post to make things look better
>Lower exposure
In theory yes, because you'd reduce the brilliant points of light to regularly-exposed light. Doing this is going to make your scene very, very dark without HDR bracketing which causes its own headaches similar to focus stacking (and you'll still need to edit out the sunstars on the brighter frames for the stack).

I vote you look for a slow aperture lens with rounded blades. I used the RF-S 18-45mm for a short while and while it was optically meh, it has these features and is a decent example of what you'd want. Since it's a whopping f/6.3 @ 45mm, you could theoretically get your whole scene in focus if you were far enough away. HOWEVER, there are better lenses suited for this task, this is just what I have some relevant experience with. Lots of modern lenses have rounded blades wide open for better bokeh, but sharpen intentionally stopped down to get sunstars on purpose.

>https://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/dof-calculator.htm
You can use this to rough out your DoF if it's any help in picking what kind of focal length is useful. If you were say 20m away from your focus point and shooting at f/11 with the mentioned lens, you'd end up with a 60m DoF. You'll probably still get some faint, shitty sunstars at f/11 though.
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>>4487466
I assume diffraction spikes dont take much of the image so a simple fix would be take the same composition exact to pixel at a much wider aperture, and then blend the layers in photoshop, it would be a tad hard but nothing impossible,
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>>4488406
Some cropping will also be required if the lens exhibits any focus breathing. Modern software is pretty good at correcting for moderate amounts when stacking, but it needs to be taken into consideration when composing the shot as well.
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Thread theme: https://youtu.be/QR75ti4mN_A?si=N-UtB79FhGkJOuBO
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>>4488365
>only one interior photo in the thread
Are car interior photos just not really a thing?
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>>4488380
Well you see anon, you likely need to *own* the car to do that. (Or have a mate with a nice car, or be at a show that lets you into the cars)
Also, interior shots normally need pretty wide lenses which not everyone has access to.
As opposed to the highly ubiquitous "hey look at that car over there".
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Are bikes allowed...
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>>4488365
Comfy

>>4488418
Sure I don't see why not

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What the actual hell is wrong with my editing and photo something looks very wrong in the photo and I can’t decide on what it is I’m trying to get like a vibe Juno claspo but it doesn’t really fit that vibe
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>>4485288
Your face is so lickable
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>>4484922
>What the actual hell is wrong with my editing and photo something looks very wrong in the photo
Get an OLED screen
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>>4484922
0 dynamic posing, prop use or lighting and you still cant see what's wrong?
Just give up
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This was shot on a Canon 5D 12mp and edited in LR 3.5 on a Pentium 3 1ghz Dell c610 laptop with 2gb of RAM running XP SP3 on an IDE 40gb 4200rpm spinnydisk

Your arguments, all of them in this thread, from all of you, are invalid.
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>>4488401
based blind man

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Should dishonest photography be shunned?
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>>4488290
>I must have missed where you suggested it was something else causing the distortion?
I didn't, what I cared about was dispelling the fiction that the lens was distorting the shadows.
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everybody taking about the moon itt needs to be executed

also what the fuck is dishonest photography? any image at all could be considered dishonest because it is a single view of a single instant of a subject or event, its like how people talk about how much they hate "bias" or "indoctrination/propaganda" when what they really mean is they dont like it when others treat a perspective other than the mainstream perspective on a topic as true
for example:
>teaching kids in school to be liberal capitalists = cool and normal
>teaching kids that liberalism and or capitalism might be bad = evil indoctrination and brainwashing
literally every perspective is biased and its the same with photography literally every image could be considered a lie based on the intentions of the person framing the image
i think the only thing that could actually be considered dishonest is how people use an image to make their audience feel, if i took a photo of a dead Palestinian killed by an israeli JDAM and the zog used the photo to say it was actually hamas who killed the kid or to say it was somehow the kids fault he god the bomb dropped on his head that would be dishonest but the photo would not be
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>>4488318
Capitalism does not exist. It was invented as a strawman to propagandize neo-feudalism aka the unending struggle towards real communism.

And its greatest triumph is convincing americans that its real and business are the equals of the state or else the entire country is logically obligated to go full commie.

You will also find this “jedi” mind trick in other debates. And not just lefty insanity like veganism and population replacement either. It is also used by the right wing. You must adhere to ____ or your world will end if you ever stop being a hypocrite, and anyone can do anything they want and you cant logically complain. Know this trick. Fear it. Hate it.
And remember the more you acknowledge ISM dichotomies the more powerful they become.
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>>4488318
>also what the fuck is dishonest photography?
The Bahbah thread is a great example of it. Photography done with the pretense that it's presenting some deep truth when it's just navel-gazing erotica peppered with some critic bait. The faux rebellious aspect of it is also part of the dishonesty. The photographer is playing it safe while pretending to be some daring maverick. The idea that it's speaking truth to power when it's actually just power talking. It's corrupt to the core, there's no sincerity in it.
Another example, hobotography.
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>>4488206
lol they forgot to shoop in the stars

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let's see them
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>>4482004
That's a 3d render you fucking retarded liar
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>>4486936
Are you fucking blind? That's clearly AI generated. You can tell by the mist distance effect it pulled from a video game
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>>4486936
>>4487112
Neither of you idiots know how to reverse image lookup? It's built into 4chan. Start with the triangle next to the [Reply] link.
"Tower of Terror", DisneySea Tokyo.
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>>4488202
Yeah, that's obviously the location he used to build training data for his AI model. Glad we're getting somewhere
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/michigan_mister/

Based - this is the future of photography
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>>4488224

The slop wars have begun, the next few years are going to be something else.
I dont think this board will even exist within 2 years time as this very topic will destroy it from the inside out.
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>>4488225

putting your own photography watermark on ai creations is the cherry on top of the slop.
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>>4488224
I dont think you understand what the word photography means.
>photo
Derived from photon, aka light
>graph
From the greek word graphe, meaning painting

Generating an image that was never real is fundementally not photography.
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>>4488233

The images were derived from light they just had some extra math involved to combine many photos into one creation.
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>>4488224
holy sovl

Which do you think is more useful for Architecture photography - a Panoramic tripod head? Or A Tilt Shift lens?
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Noobie photographer here, what is a panoramic tripod head?

Does it have angle locking, because it seems like the thing in the OP does, and I'm considering that for what I say in >>4486909
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>>4488024
Have you ever tried using the search bar on a web browser to find info about unfamiliar things? (I suggest trying duckduckgo before Google cause platform decay slop.)

A $€£ 5 round bubble level might help getting camera pointing straight down with whatever tripod+head you have. (Fancy head will not help if your tripod is a wobbly toy.)

If you need to scan documents / books borrow, rent or buy a document / book scanner. From quick glance to a € 104.40 one on sale at Amazon(de) the bundled software can flatten and split pages and remove background and fingers. (Dunno if that scanner is any good or +1000% tarifed in Murica.)
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>>4488217
I did a lot of searching on this a year or so ago and wasn't able to find much at the time, but since I'm not knowledgeable on photography I figured it was possible I simply wasn't using the right terminology

I'm not just wanting a level, because that still introduces room for my tweaking to be slightly off if by eye I don't notice the level not being actually entirely level. I'm wanting something that actually locks itself to different angle increments so there's no room for error.
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>>4488024
Panoramic tripod heads are so you can shoot panoramas while keeping the nodal point the same
If you pan direction on a normal tripod, differences in nodal point can give you some distortion
It doesn't have much functional benefit outside of panoramas / composite
>>4488232
You can get geared heads which offer precise angle adjustment as the knobs are "geared" rather than "locked/unlocked" like most heads, but they are generally quite expensive.
Any decent tripod will lock at whatever angle you want, and you can usually be fine with relying on the cameras built-in level.
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>>4487884
See A and B of >>4488285
If you don't account for parallax, you can end up with a slightly different perspective

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In order to achieve this kind of black does it got to be underexposed or overexposed? and how many stops?

Point the light meter at the subject or at the empty space?

thanks in advance
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>>4488039
>the degens on 4chin say the moon is made of cheddar so it must be troo
Nice self report schizo.
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>>4488042
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>>4487994
It depends on what you are trying to achieve. That looks like a record sleeve and will therefore have been printed from cmyk inks. Get your lighting right and convert to monochrome in Photoshop The covert back to cmyk and fuck around with curves until you get it how you want
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>>4488007
you seem angry that you're not creative. you're probably good at something else, so maybe do that instead :)
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>>4488007
>if you knew who I am you wouldn't be saying dumb basement shit
Anon pulls the classic nepo 'DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?" boomer-grade rebuttal

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I like the aesthetics of tobbaco, zippos and leather
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>>4485326
Tobacco is thirdie, not manly.
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>>4473779
It has so much aura
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>>4485326
The best is cedar sticks. Using butane is preferable to a zippo type lighter because lighter fluid also has a bad taste to it.
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Not sure what the name of this aesthetic is. I have the same journal but green, I have a matt silver zippo with a cigar lighter insert. I also drink Jaeger but only on holidays. Listen.. we are in a photography forum with a bunch of other performative clowns. Just lean into what you like, but dont go full fedora. Never go full fedora.

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I'm really lost on how much sensor size matters, because while I read tons of gear stuff here and the most detailed explanations, in reality the photos taken with a small sensor still look good to me because it's about composition, feelings, emotion, subjects and things like that.
So what's the deal with sensor sizes
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>>4486390
agree, you're going to put fake grain on your pic regardless, just reduce the chroma noise leave the luma and voila you saved a step processing
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>>4486385
I don't like this it's bad
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>>4486371
Nice shit post lol
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>>4486368
>>4486367
>>4486363
>>4486385
Cute doggies. May the children of heaven be blessed at heaven's gate when they all pass into the after life.
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>>4486110
this is HYPERKINO

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Rank the Trump Portraits
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>>4475946
>did get my jabs
KWAB
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>>4432114
1 looks cheap, background is real bad
2 is bland but inoffensive
3 has some of the worst lighting choices I have seen in my life
4 is trying way too hard
So I guess
2>1>4>3
None of them are good.
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>>4475946
>wasn't a maskfag, did get my jabs
dumbass
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>>4482684
Getting jabbed is like tattooing, you get addicted to the feel eventually.
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>>4432114
He has let his evil side be photographed.
He knows it doesn't matter anymore.

What makes Japan such an desired place for photography? I'm really trying to understand the hype around it. When I visited of course the size of Tokyo itself opens lots of opportunities but I quickly notice that it gets repetitive rather fast. All muh taxis look the same, the buildings have a pattern that repeats a lot. If you've seen a few shrines/temples.. in the end they all look the same. Even if you visit other prefectures you won't see much of a difference. Whenever I see camera vlogs or flickr uploads in Japan I now tend to skip because it's always the same.

My current number one location would probably be Germany. Still safe enough to bring your camera with you, every state has it's own architectural style. Towns are usually a comfy mix between old medieval houses in the center with grim 60s bauhaus constructions that look really odd. Also home of Leica where this sort of everyday compact photography started.

What do you think? What's your prefered location?
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>>4488092
If you're doing specific work, then using the right tools for the job is what's most important. But you can do whatever when it's not work related.
I'm getting more into the frame of mind where I just pick one focal length for the day and then stick with it. I've been using zoom lenses for the last 15 years and fucking hated carrying that big ass camera and lens around.
I got an x100vi recently with the two conversion lenses and I love how tiny and light it is. I just pick between the 26, 35 and 50 for the day and stick with it. Don't carry anything else with me. It's great. Yeah you're going to miss some shots from not having the versatility of a zoom, but having a camera that's so light around my neck that I don't even notice it massively outweighs the lack of versatility for me. It's a great and powerful little camera.
I'm looking at some Nikon stuff too though that I might buy in February or something. Those 1,8 primes look great, light weight and very affordable. The 26 2,8 pancake looks very promising too. I prefer 26 over 24. It's a subtle difference, but I think 24 juuuuust has a little too much lens distortion where I find the 26 to be a cleaner look that's wide enough to justify it next to also having a 35 which is my sort of primary "scene" focal length.
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>>4487722
based, im spending a week in hokkaido in feb. can't wait
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>>4488047
i was at a park in tokyo and there was a big group of ojisans with GIANT lenses hanging out drinking tea and taking photos of birds. i wish i could have bros like them.
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>>4488154
>hokkaido
is the most fun city name to say. Every time I say it, it comes out my mouth with all this extra pizazz, like a samurai in a 70s exploitation movie, with a big long gravelly Hhhhhhhoooo KAIDOOOOOO. I love it.
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>>4488155
Yeah, it's primarily two groups:
a.) Retired bros with zoom lenses
b.) Scrawny 20yo nerds with bigger zoom lenses taking pictures of trains
Pretty sure you can easily get buddy buddy with the former if you speak the language. In my experience, old guys generally like chit-chatting with foreigners in all manner of situations.


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