>>4336112
A Lumix G9 is like $700-1000, that's the price of a new Canon R50/Sony A6400, not sure why you'd get one over those two

>>4335880
No.

You're looking for something with manual exposure controls and raw image capture. This is typically only available in the G line.

I recommend getting a PowerShot G9 or newer, if you can find it for cheap and in good condition. The G12 is pretty good, and you can find one for around $200. These old compact cameras typically had a poor battery life, so you want at least one back-up battery.

However, if you have the budget, consider getting an m43. The Lumix G7 is selling for around $550 and the much newer G100 is only $600. They will serve you much better in the long term, and being able to swap the lenses opens you up to things that are impossible for any phone or compact camera.

>>4336134
Canon R50, the APS-C camera on the mount that Canon abandoned APS-C for? Sure, you can buy full frame lenses, but OP asked for cheap.
They JUST opened up RF to third party to fill in the gap of APS-C but it'll take a while for that to filter into the used market with depreciation.
Also, Canon tiers the fuck out of their cameras. They're cheap because Canon makes a great introductory camera because newbs don't know what they'll eventually need/want or not. Then in a year or two, you realize the camera, despite its great sensor, is really lacking in some important ways for you. Then their non-intro cameras are... not cheap. At all. But you've probably already invested in a set of Canon lenses, so it's either start over, or pony up the money poor boy.
Panasonic is the complete opposite -- they'll even backport features into the firmware of old cameras if the old tech is capable of it.
The G9 is packed with features -- one of the best IBIS of 2017, good video, high-res mode, weather sealing, etc.
And the lens selection is great and cheap. 12-32mm is $130 used. 45-150mm is $120 used. These two lenses will give you a compact daily setup, and at the same time spread a focal length great for your first year or two of photography. Then when you're ready, get the Panny-Leica lenses for pro-quality glass.
That one G9 camera will scale well from newb's first day doing photography, to actual pro.
That R50 will scale well from... vlogging to... vlogging lmfao. Hope OP is ready to shell out another $1500 in 18 months when he eventually needs to upgrade.

>>4336134
And Sony is... Sony lmfao. They're made for tech nerds, not photographers. Their success is owed to the fact that photography just happens to be the art that attracts tech nerds and autists who think spec sheets and milliseconds of AF speed determine whether a photo ends up being good or not, and can't comprehend how "the whole is greater than the sum of its parts" apply to camera design.
I mean, FFS. The a6400 doesn't even have a front dial. Like, if you're going to do the one-dial+rear-wheel thing, at least do a front dial instead of a rear dial. That's a huge ergonomic fuck up. And that kind of shit just permeates Sony design.

Also G9 is on sale on mpb for $700 "like new" right now. They regularly sell on ebay for prices ranging from $500-700.

we need a containment thread for these >what's a cheap camera goobers
ideally the op would even require posters to specify what they intend to use the camera for and a numerical range of 'cheap'

>>4336313
Yes, but by "fit", do you mean athletic or just not overweight?

>>4336317
She does yoga and goes clubbing with her friends every weekend and comes home to shower at like 4 in the morning.

>>4336319
Have any children?

>>4336319
>goes clubbing with her friends every weekend and comes home to shower at like 4 in the morning.
Cool, whats her bull’s name and does he let you clean him off?

>>4336309
Pretty good. Above average for a mom especially. She works out. I'm not exactly my youthful self either desu. I had my wild years, but still married pretty young. I'm rather blessed. Anyways it's never too late for anyone, don't let negative people try to drag you down.

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Here's a colourful one from last month -- sadly with a speck of dust.

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thoughts on the pentax ME?

>>4335986
this fella says they break easily
https://youtu.be/tdWKGI2apuc?t=100

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>>4336295
And with old screw-mount lens

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>Canon
whatever the best EOS one was
>Leica
Leicaflex SL2
>Minolta
CLE
>Nikon
Nikonos
>Olympus
PEN FV
>Pentax
Super A

>>4334549
>not the ti meme version, it means nothing

>>4335459
he is retarded but I'll allow it

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>>4334712
>EOS

>>4334712
>Canon
R5
>Leica
SL2
>Minolta
CLE
>Nikon
FM2
>Olympus
PEN
>Pentax
ME

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> Mathew Brady
>Camera doesn't have eye-detect autofocus
>Doesn't know to turn saturation to +10
>Can't even get his subjects to smile
what a bum

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>uses dslr instead of color film
What a child molester.

>he only shoots film
>AH HAHAHA HIPSTER FAGGOT

shouldn't have bought a sony then

>>4328588
The best camera is the camera I have with me.
The worst camera is the camera you have with you.

burp

Go on.

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>>4319017
every photo my dog is great because she's great simple as

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>>4335977
She cute :)

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my tiny weiner

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>>4335849
sorry are you >>4335803 or >>4335811

>>4335864
>she doesnt know

the instagram portra colors are achieved in post by fucking with the tone sliders

Overexpose your scenes when you can,
the more light reflects off of something into your the more the colours will pop, you got a latitude of about 3 stops before you start doing damage you can't buff out

1 stop is ideal, but it's nice to be able to use 400 speed at 400, so just use aperture priority and your camera's meter to check that you're slightly overexposing whenever possible
Mesure, lock settings, recompose, and shoot

>>4335799
Expose it on IG.

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>>4336141
>Frans Lanting
yes! Thanks very much anon.

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Expose for the lights and factor reciprocity failure. But also I would use digital for low light.

>>4336081
If you don’t have spot metering just compensate by -2 stops

>>4336081
Expose for the lights, if you get a reading at 125th or above and you've got a lot of dark in your scene, bring it down to 1/30th or 1/60th to get more details there
Speeds are for 50mm

>>4336081
You? You don't my friend. Pros only ; )

>>4336081
I use a small digital camera for metering and then apply the same EV on film.

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>>4335707

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>>4335707
what he said

anyone into cars flying boating or horses laughs at your reasonably priced thrifty hobbies

>>4335694
30-06 isn't bad right now, but 30-30? Holy fuck it's almost 2bucks a round right now where I am.
I just wanna shoot my levergat man
>>4335707
>>4335908
>comparing boats and cars to cameras or guns
You're both retarded.
>muh expensive hobbies
Do tell, what camera body and lens do you guys have, cars, and boats?
Do you even own a house?
I did have a boat, worst financial decision I made, do miss her though.
I'm financially well off to enjoy all my hobbies with wiggle room for buying a 2nd house next year, but using boats/cars as a measure of wealth is retarded. Land is significantly more important.
>>4335897
Based mauser enjoyer, my buddy reloads his 8mm.

>>4335954
land isnt a hobby retardo

you can't be a land enthusiast

>>4335958
Absolutely is when it comes to livestock and smallscale farming, dumbass.
Answer the question, do you own a house? A boat? What cars?

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>>4335581
>>4335584
better

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>>4335255
I have. A lot of people aren't even using their digital gear anymore and accessory hyped film cameras are going up.

>>4331658
Didn’t he have some kind of bingingwithbabish-style mental breakdown for a bit there? He used to be all over the algorithm then just disappeared suddenly.

>>4335861
Mid-life crisis perhaps.

>>4335873
Maybe. The babish guy that was a YouTube darling had a hilarious crisis. Seems like he got hooked on meth with his success, was on a rager and his girlfriend brought him to a psych ward, and then he got buttraped at the psych ward lol. And the guy just freely admits this in his Reddit ask me threads like a true basedboy. Peter McKinnon seems the type.

>>4335709
>Publicly showing your snapshits is cringe af fr.
said the guy proudly wearing a purse

>>4335641
>Thank you for the info
You're welcome, friend.
Unless you need the smaller size of the Rebels, I'd advise that you go for something from the xxD series.
They're better built and they tend to be cheaper for the same specs.

>>4335645
How about I take a film pic and trick everyone into thinking it's digital?

>>4335652
Okay, I would prefer something larger anyway. Just thought only the rebels were the cheap variants. thanks

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>>4335407
Well, it depends of you. I myself use a beaten 2nd hand 100D which I got as temporary when my 600D died. That was rather many years ago. Any DSLR but entriest of entry level not older than 700d or so is likely fine for a hobbyist.
There are plenty: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EOS

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>>4335691
I looked at the photos coming out of even the older ones on Flickr and they all looked pretty fine to me, honestly. I'd be fine with a 10D. If I try to do any small time work for people for social media I won't need high res anyway. Just wanna be able to have a couple photography gigs instead of having it just be a hobby. If I ever get to a point where people actually want me to work for them my end goal would be to switch back to shooting film since that's what I love.

>>4335382
because you can put your own auto thyristor flash of your choice on it now

>>4328906
And her buck.

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>>4335651
from what? schizo

>>4323211
Everything only looks the same to a person who themselves is very nondescript