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Which one should I get first?
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>torrent and download paid softwares for free
>hey, I'm so cool and smart

>some one shares your photo without your permission
>HEY DUDE IM SUE YOU
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>>3309620
>calling copying a digital file the same as stealing a physical product
ISHYGDDT
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>>3310282
>being a contrarian fagboi and defending SaaS delivery models
Just end it dude
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>>3310211
Kill yourself you fucking cunt.
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>tfw millennials so used to paying for their Netflixes and Spotifies
>letting themselves get rammed in the ass by monthly fee instead of buying things becomes common place

This generation is lost

If I have both a Canon full frame and crop sensor body, what are the benefits of purchasing a 135mm f/2 lens over just using the significantly cheaper 85mm f/1.8 on my crop body to get the same focal length?

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>>3303352
>If I have both a Canon full frame and crop sensor body, what are the benefits of purchasing a 135mm f/2 lens over just using the significantly cheaper 85mm f/1.8 on my crop body to get the same focal length?

The EF 85mm f/1.8 is a nice lens but it lacks the stronger 'punch' that the 135mmL lens has and it's better built. It's also considered to be one of the top 3 Primes Canon have made with lovely color reproduction.

The EF 135mm f/2L USM lens is one of the most respected Portrair Lenses out there. It performs very nicely on both Full Frame and APS-C camera bodies. Even on APS-C you can take handheld shots at night on the street with it.

On APS-C you'll get more of an image crop and I used mine with both and APS-C DSLR and an APS-C mirrorless with superb results. Where you'll run into problems is with indoor shots where you can't back up because the room is too small. But that's about the only limitation (environmental). The focus-limiter switch on the lens ensures you're focus range is always narrow and in the right zone to prevent the camera from hunting through the entire range if it can't lock with the AF. Portraits taken at Weddings and other events are luminous with the 135mmL lens. Bokeh is exceptional. The region in focus is deep enough to keep much of the subject in focus.

On Full Frame this lens has a slightly bolder Bokeh with a more intense element of subject isolation. The images, even of boring subject, are punchy and crisp with a soft and dreamy bokeh. You can use it for wildlife and even insects, with many photographers dropping their 100mmL Macro lens in favor of this one. The bokeh at f/2 with 135mm is much bolder and pronounces compared to 100mm at f/2.8.

Worth the money since this lens has dropped in recent years.
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>>3307510
Those colours look like piss. Lol.
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First, the 135mm field of view is challenging. For portraits, your working distance for all but the tightest shots is a bit far. At f/2, full frame, it isn't easy to get both eyes in focus.

On the other hand, the 135L has that pop factor, really smooth, nice looking transition to the out of focus areas and smooth blurbutter. The 85/1.8 renders more nervous backgrounds. Sigma as well.

The 85L/1.2 v1 is slow, a bit softer, but really pretty for portraits. Maybe $850. An option.
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85mm f/1.8 has some serious color fringing.

It's practically unavoidable once you go outside during any time of day.

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Do you have a favorite focal length? I have been shooting with 50 mm for couple years, and bought a 35 mm half a year ago.
With 50 I find myself all the time wanting a slightly wider lens because something wont fit.
But now once I got 35, while I don't want a wider lens anymore, I find it harder to make an appealing composition!
Is it because I just got used to 50 more or is 35 more difficult to compose with?

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>>3309983
That's kind of intense. I don't think I would have enjoyed that.
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>>3310011
It wouldn't have killed you either. Might as well go out and experience some things while you still can.
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>>3310014
what if you ran and he chased you that could be some cool shots
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>>3310032
He had a pretty firm grip on me and since I didn't have a strap on the camera I had no hands free.
The cops kept him longer than they kept me so I took a snap while walking away just to piss him off. It worked too.
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>>3309911
I have 35,40, and 50 primes. I like the look of 40 the most. It just feels most natural to my eyes. But I only have all the kinds because they're all different mounts.

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Optical or sensor stabilization for stills?
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>>3310183
but i got a d7000 senpai desu is good yes?
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>>3310196
I'm not going to pretend mirrorless is great but the feature gap is painful in spite of all the flaws.
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"VR is bad" is the hottest of photography takes

dude probably shows up in video threads with "4k is softer than 1080p here this blog proves it"
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>>3310209
did you read the thread name? STILLS
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>>3310209

But vr is bad.

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Hey guys I went to a show. Critiques welcome~

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Concert photography is a bitch, especially when you're using film. That being said, the biggest problem I see you having here is difficulty nailing focus. Motion blur can be forgiven in a situation like this but focus hurt a few shots that I think would've otherwise been awesome. Not to mention, if you're shooting film on a fast prime at a show then you want to get to the front of the crowd and stay there. Just speaking from personal experience.

>>3308461
Not bad. Though the spooky punk rocker with the freaky eye appears less spooky with the greasy dude in the argyle sweater behind him.

>>3308462
I would've loved this one were it not for the dude blocking your shot. The singer's expression is perfect.

>>3308463
Would've been better if the photo was in focus.

>>3308465
I like this punk kid you found, but I think the second photo you posted of him is better. The people in the background throw this one off.

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>>3308762

Thanks for your feedback. I’m actually shooting digital using a Ricoh gR, but still snapping shit as if it was a disposable.
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>>3308461
1/60 shutter speed is probably as slow as you want to go, 125 would be more normal for the lower bound. Go as fast as as you can given the lighting if you want to freeze action. yours mostly seem to be like 1/40. 1/60 and lower, camera shake becomes a problem, not even considering motion blurs. Motion can be good in an action shot though.

With your camera, considering your subject matter and shooting in b&w, grit and grain looks good some don't be afriad to crank that ISO to get better shutter and aperture settings. Your 3200 pics look good so you could use that or even try a stop or two higher and see how it looks.

If you set your EV compensation to minus 1 or minus 1.3, you can still get a good exposure. A lot of your subjects are blown out so don't be afraid to turn EV down or underexpose in manual.

between cranking your ISO and underexposing a stop or so, that gives you 2-4 stops to work with and throw at your shutter speed/aperture.

I’m doing this. Weird set-up, I know. But the thing that bugs me is the fact that it gives these weird exposure settings, I dont know why. Is this normal with lenses that arent Canon/EOS?

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>>3308846
Yes, you should. Modern cameras can meter in Av without having to know the aperture settings, except Nikon.
There are also chipped M42 adapters for canon where you can program the adapter for your lens.
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>>3308821
How does your film EOS body(s) fair with M42 adapters? I use them all of the time with a 5D with no issues, but when its on a film body it chucks a BC error. It only properly works if I leave the adapter just off of the release.

Does anybody know why the film bodies do this?
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>>3308877
I really dont know. This is a 35mm camera, which is why I asked this here before shooting a whole film and finding out how I fucked up. The weird thing about the adapter is that its a bit short - when I put my Helios on it, I cant screw it all the way in or else the mirror gets stuck on the return, it gets stuck on the Helios mount.
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>>3308914
Helios lenses aren't compatible with 35mm format cameras at infinity focus, it should work at all focus settings bar infinity. Going back to the subject, I have found that some legacy lenses tend to overexpose, which is totally fine if you're shooting negative film.

Here's a list of lenses that do and don't work with the 5D, but it should be universal with film bodies. https://www.panoramaplanet.de/comp/
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>>3308821
totally got one of those lenses for like $20 shipped. It's pretty neat but mine wasn't in great shape so i never use it. focus ring wasn't smooth.

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I'm terrible at photography but i want to be better. What the fuck am i doing wrong even?

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>>3304262
I think you put so much effort into self-pity (which isn't really needed), that there is none left for anything else.

Let me explain. Also sorry if this comes out too harsh, I'll try to explain as best as I can:

Most of your shots are exactly the same. I may be wrong but from what I see your photos don't go further than picking a flower, pointing a camera at it and pressing the shutter.

Try to think more about your subject and what makes it interesting. Litterally ask yourself: "Why am I taking this picture?" If the answer is "because it looks nice" you're not trying hard enough. What makes it nice? What's so captivating about a damn flower that you have to take picture of it? Is it it's vibrant colours that bring something unusual into the place? Is it somewhere interesting, like in a place where it shouldn't be? Or does it directly fall into some sort of greater scheme that you haven't seen unless you took few steps back.
Your shots get way better when you know why you shoot your subject. Once you know, try to think of a way how to tell the story and use proper techniques to make i speak for itself.

For example lets take a pic I took this weekend. I decided to wake up bit earlier and see what interesting I could find in the forest nearby. It's in the mountains so if you go deep enough it's dark, gloomy but also you get morning light shining through. I found this tree branch just sticking into the road. It rained in the night and there were some water drops still on the leaves. I spent a minute looking at it.

1) I wanted to portray just the leaves and water drops (that means foreground), so I needed to make the background less interesting. No one want's to hear about hero's grandma when you're talking about how he's about to slay a dragon. Lower aperture blurred did the trick

2) Boy I wanna make it moody as hell, down goes the exposure time

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>>3308407 Cont.

Alright, I hope I didn't scare you. If you have any questions just ask. I'm not greatest teacher really.


Another problem you have is, that you still don't use your camera to it's fullest ability. All your exifs say that you shoot in aperture priority with ISO 800, plus you shoot in broad daylight but I'll get to that later.

You need to learn about how to set up your camera. If you want to shoot seriously, you should stay away from any kind of automation until you can justify it. learn what is shutter speed, aperture and ISO and how to set them up on your camera. Once you understand how they work and affect each other, use them to help you achieve what I talked about in previous post. Also now that you know this it's good time to learn what apperture priority and shutter speed priority do and when to use them.

Another thing that you need to think about when using your camera is that there's many ways of using it other than simply pointing at the object. For example you can experiment with angles and distance to make objects appear bigger or smaller. Learning photography techniques and knowing when it's good to use them or break the rules is another very fast way to bring your shots to whole new level. Start with rule of thirds and work your way to more complicated stuff. Use your favourite social media to follow photographers you like, study their shots. Keep techniques and themes you like, discard what you hate and most importantly, experiment. Give them your own twist. Once you get a hang of it, try making your own.

The more you shoot, the faster you learn. Important is to always take some time to evaluate your own work and try to think how to improve it. Youtube, books, other people... anything goes. For example I struggled a lot with bigger landscapes until friend recommended I put something in there to give it a scale (human, tree, car, something that people usually know how big it is).

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>>3308413 Cont.

Last thing, plan a bit ahead. Shooting in such sharp light is very tricky. If you want fast results, try shooting either in the morning or evening when light is softer and you get more details. Also digital cameras handle underexposure little bit better than too much light. So when metering, aim for the shadows or underexpose little bit.

Let's try to make your shots jump little bit. Try following:

1) google what is golden hour and and wait for it
2) While waiting learn how to operate your shit.
3) Set your camera to manual, set your aperture as low as you can, underexpose little bit, pick correct ISO.
4) When golden hour comes, find nearest flower and shoot it from every possible angle
5) Review your photos, think about why some shots worked and others did not. Think of situations where settings I recommended would not work. Build upon knowledge you've gained.

You won't get better overnight but there is lot's of fairly simple steps that you can make to give yourself little boost. Just don't spend your time crying "Oooh, I'm so bad.", but actually learn how to make your shit better. You have access to internet and it's filled with lot's of great tutorials

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>>3304262
If flowers are your thing, just be more creative with your settings.

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>>3304278
well first off these cat photos are lacking cats.

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>>3309300
I think they are bland pictures that would work better if i develop a more extensive body maybe, but i think that your idea of a good photo is very basic. At least thats the impression i get of your critique. Its similar to say that a movie is bad because is "slow".
I am not saying that the pictures are not utter shit, but if thats the case, you are just on point by chance.
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>>3309306
"Slow" movies, the good ones, often focus a lot on exactly subject and composition.
These snapshots, I refuse to call them photos, look like you just walked around, saw something you liked, and went "SNAP", as is the style currently. You put no thought at all into how you were shooting these. You did not take a walk around those oranges to find a good angle for a photo; you just pressed the shutter.
It's perfectly fine too, because you're obviously new. Getting out and about and opening your eyes and actually pressing the shutter is all you need to do at first, but if you want something worth submitting for critique you'll have to put some thought into it.
Or get very lucky.
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>>3309311
Actually, I think they might be persimmons rather than oranges. Sorry.
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>>3309311
shut the fuck up you dont know shit
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>>3309982
Nice argument.

nvm me

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hola señor y señorita, como estas
greetings from Santiago
hope my favourite group of anons are having a great day, it's a shame otherwise.

If life is giving you lemons, it probably has a crush on you.

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last for now, probably for the thread, burn after reading

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I'm trying to make photos look creepy from broad daylight in GIMP 2.10 (Latest). I am able to mess around with the saturation, curves, and get a hue going, but it doesn't look all that great. Is there anything you recommend that could help achieve that kind of effect?

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>>3309400
the key is foreground

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>>3309883
kek
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>>3309883
destroyed this one as well, next one....

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>>3309883
was this shot out of your lambo?
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>>3309400
you could have fucked with the white balance of your camera and a flash for a much better looking picture.

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What is the best wide angle (< 35mm) takumar lens?

Also, let's discuss takumar lenses.
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>>3309197
Oh yes I saw somewhere that Helios are good lenses, however always wondered what these 44, 77 mean
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Well, I absolutely love my 45mm f4 on the Pentax 6x7. About 22mm equivalent in 35mm.
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>>3309006
The old carl zeiss jena lenses are very nice, especially the one with a little 1Q logo.
You can also find some schneider kreuznach lenses in m42. They are very sharp.
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>>3309405
Just a model number.
Helios 40-2, despite it's name, have focal length of 85mm.
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>>3309734
Ok thanks, so the 40 stands for the range of the lens and the 2 for the version number, right?

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Finally have a small pile of edited photos from my backpacking trip through SE Asia. Still have dozens of rolls to scan and dozens more to develop.

Posting some photos I'm not certain about, so critique is encouraged. My hope is once everything is developed/scanned I can edit the trip down to 30-40 images and make a zine.

Camera and film info in the EXIF. Some of these scans are potato scans, sry.

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>>3307526
Stop carrying your camera around with you for a month. You'll start seeing shots and wishing you had it.

>>3307699
thx

>>3307792
Thanks Dill, you're rad.
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Found some scans still left on my camera so I'm editing a few.

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These are beautiful, they make me want to be a better photographer. And also shoot more slide film. My portra scans from SEA feel so dull looking at these.
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>>3309732
Thanks anon, that's an awesome thing to hear.

The great thing about Portra is how much you can play with it in Photoshop. No reason keeping you from playing with contrast/saturation in post.

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>>3309732
Hell, here's a Portra 400VC shot converted to BW.

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How does one make money from photography?

I'm not talking like Rockefeller millions here, but can you make beer money off of photography?

What do you do? Start a blog and shill yourself?
Is photojournalist a real career?

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Get gud and make sure people like you. Life is a popularity contest.
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Wedding photography is the easiest way to make money but that certainly doesn't mean it's easy. It's taken me several years to create a successful business and a lot of perserverence.
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>>3307400
>I think there's some money in stock photos but I don't really know how to get into that.
You need friends who won't mind being in boner pill ads and an appreciation for downright corny shots and yuri arcurs. Also really good lighting rigs, insane attention to detail and flawless technical skills. If you ever want to improve massively, try to make a stock photo portfolio that would get you accepted. 11 flawless photos which instantly express different concepts that people will pay for. Somewhere in there was the moment that expensive glass, real models, and paid editing workshops started making sense to me on a personal level.

Just do real estate.

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>>3306746
>How does one make money from photography?
Sell cameras, and equipment.
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I do retouching as my main job. I've done it for several different companies and so I've worked with a lot of people who know I do that and that I can also shoot products. So those people end up sending work my way because they know I'm reliable. I make about $30k/yr shooting on random nights and weekends in addition to my normal salary.

green is bad
red is good
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>>3307931
>film gear thread
>gear
its general my dude.
/fgt/ isn't a film gear circle jerk (well it does happen) we actually post photos in there too and discuss shooting techniques, etc.

>All film related questions and general film discussion is to take place in this thread
>Feel free to post photos, we want to see that beautiful grainy goodness!
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not sure why i even come here anymore
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>>3307951
it would further make my point you idiot, and that’s the opposite of selective jfc you’re retarded
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>green bad
>red good
who the fuck taught you this, the symbolism of those two colors is exactly the opposite even for the most autistic people
seriously how did you end up doing this I want to know

I agree with most of the "green" ones though but now I'm thinking this is some psyops shit to get us to think that gear threads are green and this good to every person's usual understanding of green/red

Do you cross the road when it's red OP?
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>>3309515
ikr



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