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Are these smaller LED lights a meme for still photography or are they actually beginning to have some usable value?

I know Jason Lanier can make shots with them but he's got endless time, money, locations and models to make it a little easier to show off this stuff.
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I think they're too weak for 'normal' photography shutter speeds
but I use rotolight anovas and neos for video all the time, that's what they're really good at
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>>3360546
If the lights are cheap they will give cheap results. No exceptions.
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>>3360810

That's why natural light is so expensive
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>>3360691

So the concept at least, though I'm not totally sold yet it does kinda make sense is;

With modern sensors there's no reason to obsess over staying at 100, 200 ISO.

Modern sensors can go to 3200 easily, many to 6400, without showing any noticeable noise. For social media or web use you can even stretch to 12800 in some cases.

So these lower powered LED lights are fine if you're willing to raise the ISO.

This seems to be the trick Lanier uses in his videos to sell these things and it may very well be a valid technique. He shows 3200, 6400 on a lot of his pics with these lights and it works.
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>>3361226
of course it works, but you have to know about the limitations
if you expect the pop and sharpness of an actual 400ws-ish strobe that enables you to stop down to f8 at iso100 if you want to then you're going to be disappointed, since a godox or so strobe costs about the same as a roto

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EOS 3000D Canon: Hey guys just got my NuCamera, any advise on the setting and what gear I should get?
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that's great anon, I hope you have a wonderful time with your new camera and take great photos. post in the gear thread though, and do read the sticky.
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>>3361205
Ahh my apologies anon thanks for letting me know theres a gear thread
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>>3361202
A nice, solid, all-around camera. No fancy gimmicks but it'll do the trick in just about any situation.

Nice buy, OP. Go take some pictures.

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>smaller than both a7 and z bodies
>focusing no problem at -6.0 EV
>Fully articulating screen
>New compact 35/1.8 lens
>New 28-70mm f/2 zoom lens

Sony, and now Nikon mirrorless users, on suicide watch

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>>3360189
You want me to bend my knees... to get a higher angle shot?

Do you understand how human knees work?

>>3360187
>To flip it up you just pull it from the bottom, one motion.
Yeah, it's just a little harder because the fulcrum is in a different spot, so when you pull on the bottom it's also pushing the top against the back of the camera. It's not a big thing, obviously, but my subjective experience is that it's more of an issue than rotating the screen when pulling it out from the back on a Canon-style articulated screen.

I.e., to be clear, my point is not "This makes it unusable" or anything silly like that, or even "This makes it difficult to use" per se, just "This is just as much of an issue in practice as having to rotate the screen after pulling it out". They're both basically invisible after you've used the camera for more than a few minutes but, to the extent that either one is an issue, they're both about equally an issue.

I'm assuming most people in this thread (except for >>3350660 who agrees with me and has the same cameras as me and... okay, that might actually have been me who made that post although it doesn't quite sound like me and I don't remember making that post, but it's eerily similar to my thoughts on the matter) haven't used both types extensively. As someone who has, I prefer the Canon way. I use my X-T1 and A6000 more than my 70D, but when using the Sony or Fuji, I wish it had a screen like my Canon. And I use a 5D3 more than any of them, and I *really* wish it had a tilty screen of any sort.
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>>3360226
>how do I jump
>what are drones
seriously imagine writing all of those words out to try and convey a point about a fucking tilty flippy screen on an asian paper folding forum. the absolute state of gearfaggotry
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>>3360229
Imagine having such a sad life that your main source of entertainment is trolling /p/.
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>>3360226
>Yeah, it's just a little harder because the fulcrum is in a different spot, so when you pull on the bottom it's also pushing the top against the back of the camera
Not an issue on my NEX-3, RX100 IV, or A7. When you lift it from the bottom the top of the display simply slides down the rear of the camera. No need to pull it out first and then tilt it up.

>I'm assuming most people in this thread haven't used both types extensively
I can't speak for others but I started out on a Canon G5 with a full articulated screen. I only ever really needed to tilt it upwards (except for the very occasional selfie) but rarely did because I had to first flip it out and then rotate it, most of the time I'd just crouch down instead.

Then I got a 20D with a fixed screen but no live view, then a NEX-3 which I often used at waist level for street or other inconspicuous shooting. Got a 40D to replace the 20D and use beside the NEX-3 and I did miss the tilting screen with that. Now I have the RX100 and A7 and often use the tilt on both, my only complaint would be that the A7's screen can't face forward (because the viewfinder sticks out) so it'd be nice if a future version flipped 180 degrees down for me to eventually upgrade to.
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>>3349336
lol this is going to be a piece of shit

yawnnn

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>>3360381
>what went RIGHT
I mean, it doesn't literally fire a poison-tipped dart into your hand when you press the shutter button. That's one thing that went right.
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>>3359972
they made a massive bet on hardware right before most everything was about to go the way of software.
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>>3359972
If it actually came close to replacing a big body with a bunch of lenses and threw in post-focus it would have been revolutionary.
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>>3359972
this
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clearly not enough hype or social media spamming. to think we've gone a whole 10 minutes without hearing about more vaporware

https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=1225&Camera=1221&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=0&LensComp=403&CameraComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0
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>>3360878
>zero difference from 1.4 to 5.6

Oh boy
>artistic preference and practical need
Is that supposed to disagree with what I said? I'm explaining why someone would buy a fast lens and not shoot it wide open all the time, if ever. It's like saying you should drive your car as fast as you can possibly go just because its capable of going over 100 mph.
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>>3360883
My bad though, when saying no difference I thought you meant in DoF, not sharpness.
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>there are people on this board who spend thousands more for faster aperture lenses then stop it down to f4-8 because someone on the internet ages ago said all lenses are the sharpest there
>not using aperture for shooting style and DOF
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>>3356494
Noone here needs a lens that sharp, it won't make you take better photos or transform an okay photo to a good one. I wish there were less gearfags on this board
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>>3361173
>no artist needs good paints, just use school acrylics

>no guitarist needs a usa made fender, just use a tanglewood

>no chef needs an expensive knife, just use this butter knife

>no athlete needs adidas kicks, just use these old leather boots

It's literally impossible to use your thought process without looking ignorant af.

Is there a legit left handed DSLR or mirrorless anywhere?

Now it's either carrying a tripod with DSLR or using a compact camera small enough to use upside down or somehow manage to palm it and press the shutter.
Is the solution an external lefty rig like in the picture?

And by left hand I mean for a person who only has a left hand, not the Ned Flanders type.

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>>3357925
My MF is left handed
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>>3357925

One of the rifle mounts for cameras maybe?

Though if you have only one hand it might be a pain to support.
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>>3359532
With a neck strap tightened to give extra support it could work but the OP pic device a little bit more subtle.
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Just use a collapsed monopod with a remote trigger taped to it

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>>3361100

You mean a selfie stick?

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Is it autistic if I enjoy just going out for walks with my camera, not taking any shots? I think I take more pleasure in looking around for things to shoot than actually doing so. It's a more mindful way to be in a place, you know?
>Pic unrelated because I actually took one.

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>>3360457
Congratulations, you've discovered a well known practice from the film age. Film out and take blank shots, works the same with dslr and no batteries, and probably mirrorless without the card as well.
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>>3360457
I do this except I just walk around imagining I have a camera with me and "framing" shots with my eyes since I can't afford one.
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>>3361099
Get a nicer point and shoot or get into film. Both are easier to pay for than DSLR photography.

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So, how does /p/ transfer their photo's details to a spreadsheet, like dimensions, size, date created?
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>>3361117
>>3361118
contd. visit the following sites for help:
https://sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/
https://sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/faq.html
https://sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/filename.html
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>>3361118
I meant using exiftool without typing any command lines.

I did it with the first question by renaming exiftool.exe to ExifTool(-T -FileName -ImageWidth -ImageHeight -w+! %0fDetails.txt --ext exe .).exe

You gave me a short script, I'm thinking maybe I can rename exiftool.exe to exiftool(-d %.2nc.%%e "-filename<filemodifydate" DIR).exe or something. So, I'll just double click exiftool(newname).exe and it will do the job.

But " and < is an illegal file name character in windows. I'm thinking maybe there's a placeholder character for them.
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>>3361120
Ah I got it. Are these characters allowed in a shortcut to exiftool like the exiftool website suggests?
>Hint: Options may also be added to the "Target" property of a Windows shortcut for the executable. Using a shortcut has 3 advantages over adding options in the file name: 1) different shortcuts may be created without requiring multiple copies of the executable, 2) characters which are invalid in file names may be used, and 3) the shortcuts can be given more meaningful (and convenient) file names.
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>>3361124
Okay. created a shortcut, rename exiftool back to exiftool.exe, put exiftool and create a shortcut in the same directory with the files, use your code
F:\javafun\Pics\Date-9-21\ExifTool.exe" -d "%.2nc.%%e" "-filename<filemodifydate" "F:\javafun\Pics\Date-9-21"

Nothing happens.

Also is there a "this directory" command in exiftool, so I'll put exiftool in the same directory and run it, instead of writing the directory in the shortcut everytime?
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>>3361131
It see the files but does nothing.

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I worked somewhat high up in the marketing department at Sony for the past 5-20 years (I don't want to be too specific and out myself among coworkers) and was laid off or quit sometime in the past few months (again, don't want to be too specific).

I appreciate what Sony has managed to do in the photography market, hardware wise. It shouldn't have been as difficult to market such good cameras, but you know what photographers are like and how dug in Canon and Nikon were. We really had to pull out all the stops. It is essentially trench warfare.

Anyway, I just thought the board should know that yes, there are paid "trolls" (they are actually called brand ambassadors) on social media and forums to push Sony marketing. It's been the norm at Sony for some time now. It isn't considered unethical either. It's just part of the viral marketing department. Other companies have adopted the practice too. I can't really speak for other companies (although their marketing campaigns are pretty obvious) but Sony Pictures has one that puts most others to shame. Remember the "The Interview" fiasco? Pure marketing. It wasn't a good movie, and the Paramount execs knew it and threw a fit. The marketing department at parent company SPE (Sony Pictures Entertainment) decided to salvage it by using it as an ad instead. Worked very well, too. The media loves stuff like this, and they were more than willing to run with it. A terrible movie that was going to go ignored and lose money ended up being released for free, and generated tons of good press.

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>>3358273
...and 5 cents will be added to your account.
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>>3358297
And the most generous marketimg department, apparently.

Did you know if a company advertises to you and doesn't admit to it you can take them to court, there's been settlements of over $500k from private individuals takong companies to court for not admitting to advertising.
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>>3358273
>I think giving legitimate reasons as to why sony are objectively the best system right now is fine.
>t. Sony Marketing

>They have the best lenses,
Canon

>the smallest bodies,
Fuji

>the longest batteries,
DSLRs

>fastest burst,
OK

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>>3351312
i dont care in whick part sony is bad as soon as they killed canon and nikon monopoly and created fullframe mirorrless market. Robin Hood is and sony even aint stole nothing. they did something new. stop crying admit facts
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>>3351356

Can you ask your dad who's gonna be in Smash Bros?

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How can I get away with charging uglier people more for portraits
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>>3361026
>People should be free to breed with whoever they want
You do realise this would lead to Eugenics, right?
See this image>>3357739

People generally wants the most desireable traits for their offspring.
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>>3361030
>Not eugenics
Wrong, it's just Eugenics on a low level.

It's programmed into every animal to seek particular traits in their mates if possible.
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>>3361037
>Wrong, it's just Eugenics on a low level.
If you use the term "Eugenics" to mean that, it basically has no meaning whatsoever. "Eugenics" does not mean "People just sleeping with other people who they find attractive". It's a ridiculous semantic argument and the only possible reason to make that argument is either (a) you're a complete moron or (b) you're legitimately in favor of eugenics in the Nazi murder-and-controlled-nonconsensual-breeding sense of the term and are using this to try to muddy the waters around it.

Either way, you are not arguing in good faith, so there's no reason for me to continue the discussion.
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>>3361030
>In the example of you choosing who you want to marry
How do you classify the American system then?
https://www.economist.com/briefing/2015/10/03/the-model-minority-is-losing-patience

In America they do Eugenics in a more subtle way.
They know college kids will mingle and date&marry each other.
So they selectively filter off a group for elimination, for example Asian men.
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>>3361042
>If you use the term "Eugenics" to mean that, it basically has no meaning whatsoever. "
How do you think Scandinavia became 70% blond haired?
Simply by coincidence and random chance?

No. You have genes in you that selects for particular traits.
Just like the peacock who selects for the mate with the most beautiful feathers and deselect the ones without.

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How do you shoot similar photographs?
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>>3360517
Lens flare and character are more easily seen since the rest of the frame is relatively dark
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>>3360576
Thanks m8
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>>3360284
6x6 portra nc
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>>3360517
>Can anyone explain to me why at very low f stops in low light the subject in a photo has a glow to it?
Most lenses are more susceptible to things like flare and other optical issues that cause light to bounce around a bit when they're used wide open.
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with a paint brush

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I don’t know anything about makeup. Where can I find a crash course on it? I need to instruct a makeup artist in a week and I don’t know what to tell her to do to the model.
Pic somewhat related but not really.

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>>3360974
just show the MUA pics of what you want.
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How would you feel about a make up artist who read up about photography in a week telling you what shutter speed and aperture to use? Just give them an overall theme of the shoot (avant-garde, high fashion, classic, contemporary, glamour) and let them work. Of the two of you present, the make up artist is the only licensed professional.
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>>3360974
if they're a good MUA, show them a picture of the model and ask for suggestions of makeup to fit the theme of the shoot (pics of outfits, and potentially the editing style will help as well)

also, on the day of shoot, allow them an hour and a half MINIMUM to do their work. 2 hours if they're doing hair as well

having a proper MUA will help your shoots dramatically. let them do their thing

Original vs the edit. Digital just makes everything seem so fake.
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>>3360615
Posting raw on 4chan is near impossible unless you want your file to be stored on one of the google affiliated cloud services.
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>>3360973
oh wow lol are you this protective of your picture of a bunch of fucking goats?
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>>3361003
I'm not op, just stating obvious.
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>>3360289
Not every contrast curve needs to be an S shape, OP.
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>>3361007
>squirrel whisperer
*holds up spork*

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Took some pictures last night

don't wanna brag bug I think they're pretty good

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>>3360949
And finally another one of the city lights.

None of these are modified in any way, I don't think they really need it

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>>3360950
lightroom is too hard, I can't figure out the settings
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The composition is pretty good. Keep it up brother.
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0/10 troll attempt. Try harder
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>>3360948
Nice. I love the sperm effect.

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Headed to the Badlands and the Black Hills today.
Will be dropping photos here during my trip.

First pic is of the badlands during a previous trip.

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>>3332128
go back and take this shot in autumn, on a foggy morning.
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>>3356861
gr8 b8 m8.
1/8
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>>3356871
I'm hoping to go back out to Oregon this fall.

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Any cc on this?

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went out today before lunch.
went to a state park I had never been to before.
Found a cabin built by two Norwegian bro's in the 1860's

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