>>97351552
Are you winning, dad?

>>97351516
Concerning, let us know if any more information is learned. -Kakophoni
Scarlet I've got free time, let me know when you are available and I'll arrive.
working on a full description of Kakophoni for appearance, will post when finished.

it might be tomorrow as I'm a bit busy today

My choice of punishment for Boy Toy is the simplest, we just take turns slapping his face, how womanly! I can't get enough of how he looks at me when I hit him like a truck.

>>97351516
I know what's that, it's an embraced werewolf!
>>97351883
Come whenever you want, I'm stuck home studying anyway.

>>97336581
>PCs are now infused with Nostalgia, or the lingering effects of intense longing and loss (ie, magic is based on emotion and can soak into things.)
My questions and concerns have been answered, and people are by all means allowed to use this thread to ask their own questions about GMing, but I've been chewing on this particular bit of the scene and I'm trying to figure out a good approach. This would be one of the few "storyfag" scenes in the session where things are mostly expository, but I've got a few different directions I can take this.

>The PCs are hit with the "nostalgia" of the main villain, who yearns to restore the pre-magical world after losing the best years of his life to a pointless conflict
>The PCs very briefly meet the fetal god-child who lives within the magical star (known as Revelation) that is effectively using the planet as a placenta (the main villain is, obviously, looking to poison the god-child with an overflow of negative energies.)
>The PCs get a flash back to their own yearnings, just about to indulge in them before the vision ends
>The PCs are hit with the "nostalgia" of the artifacts around them

The effort here is to get the PCs, and players, aware that something greater than a simple warehouse burglary is going on, and *ideally* establish the PCs as "unique" and thus valuable for people with authority. Yet that raises another question; what exactly did the PCs "get" besides a vision?

This is all the yapping of a GM, you know how these ruminations can get.

>>97336156
the first session's always the hardest because you actually need to build rails for the players to launch off of, afterward it's as simple as asking the players at the end of the session what they'd like to do next (they may require some prompting) and then prepare for them to do that with associated encounters etc.
first session should probably be spent establishing the sides with the players meet-and-greeting with people on their side and throwing hands with their opponents in line with your campaign pitch.

>>97336156
I ask the players what sort of adventures they're interested in. The rest pretty much takes care of itself.

>>97336699
What? Do you exclusively play with mutes and children or something?

>>97351832
glhf anon, post results if you have a good time with it.

>>97352257
yeah it's really pretty pathetic

>>97352307
Its been a while since Ive read the handlers guide, but didn't the destruction of MJ12 fuck their mass surveillance capabilities?

>>97352374
All Flesh Must Be Eaten.
the real answer is just about any horror game you can run with humans that is relatively lethal would work for the mist. I'm just throwing out one that doesn't get as much love. But Call of Cthulhu or Fear Itself or, hell, even baseline WoD would probably work just as well.

>>97353289
I sometimes skim the HG, I remember the ayytech shut off right after the MiGo got scared and fucked off, and most MJ12 tech was based off that, but Observer Effect contradicts that pretty blatantly. If MJ12's mass-surveillance tech was partially in-house and not just them entirely relying on the greys' Report, they may have their own version of PRISM that was running on the same shit as what was in Observer Effect that the Program has themselves now, and March might have a knockoff of
Even if they don't have a greytech PRISM serverfarm running, the KIY part of the setting mentions "subroutines" running on automated USG servers on DG's authority to watch the internet and USG intranets for signs of Yellow, and GT directly states Conradin's network got flagged internally by similar shit in the 00's after DG pushed their own tracking-software into Patriot Act systems

>>97353289
they use 'a program algorithm flagged such-and-such' as part of the hook fairly often from what i recall, they're at the least on par with irl data snooping surveillance capabilities and probably beyond it. suspicious location updates from a random smartwatch is used in one, iirc.

File: Screenshot_20260112-135929.png (388 KB, 1080x2424)

388 KB PNG

Sorry for the double post. But this is what the boxes I have, and the one I want get me.
Just under 300 points, and the zonds not that many points so people would probably let me proxy it as long as someone has something the right size to use, or just skip him over.

File: 1749035184114527.png (633 KB, 2048x1273)

633 KB PNG

>>97351157
You can use Repeaters to extend the zone of control that your Hacker can hack into.
https://infinitythewiki.com/Hacking_Area
You'll notice the Meteor Zond has an integrated repeater, and a few of your units have Pitchers
https://infinitythewiki.com/Pitcher
to fire deployable Repeaters around the map as if they were underbarrel grenades.

>>97351323
Thanks. Yeah, this game has so many little rules, I feel it's best I sorta hop in trial by fire style with my local group to learn everything. I can read something 5 times and not get it, but see it play out and understand it you know.
I just found in the OP the sheet with all the tokens and stuff, so that will save me on the clear plastic stuff they have for those.
Also got the list down to 7 rather then 7.5 by taking the marksman version of the sin eater.

>>97351363
My best advice is to start with very simple 3 goons vs 3 goons games to understand how AROs and the orders mechanics work, then had an HI, then add an hacker, and so on until you're playing actual games.

Also remember that while Repeaters extend your hacking range, they also mean the enemy can use them in reverse and reach your hacker (maybe with a killer hacker), so be careful where you launch those ;)

>>97351397
Thanks for the advice. Gods I feel like I butchered the kusanagi mini so badly. My primer fucked up, so I stripped it, but couldn't get all of it off, and then reprimed, and painting over it I used several thin af coats and it just feels like the primer washed away the detail. I need some industrial ass primer stripper for her.

>>97343404
both are fine

>>97343404
Depends on the setting, the game, and your group.

>>97346249
>That will result in a commensurate increase in their basal metabolic rate and therefore the amount of calories they require to survive.
Not if they run on arthropodal metabolic rates, though that would entail much greater susceptibility to wounds and inappropriate temperatures.

>Walking on two legs is significantly more efficient than walking on four. I suspect the comparison becomes even more dramatic against eight.
There's differences the joint arrangement makes for that make me think otherwise, at least as a trained marching-gait, as spider-legs are much easier to just barely raise above the ground then shift forward with speed. But it does cost them throwing ability, so they have to wait for slings for ranged parity (...which already don't work with tight formations)

>Good luck forming a shield wall or phalanx. Volley fire with bows or muskets is less effective when you're spread out too.
While depth of rank is compromised, width can be deceptively little if the legs can be pulled in enough and the leg arrangement braces better so depth isn't as necessary to resist a press. Definitely going to need bigger shields with commensurate upper body strength demands.

>Good luck defending your legs against someone to your side or your rear against someone behind you.
The exoskeleton gives a very obvious example for form-fitting full plate armoring of it, which in combination with the better footing means they're going to need more significantly outnumbered than simple area-coverage would imply when richly equipped. And formation fighting still works despite the lower packing efficiency.

In summary, they're almost certainly favorable for logistics at short distances and have a decent chance at longer ones, but take casualties more severely especially in the latter case. On the field, they're likely doing better in uneven terrain and in niches like the block-breaking zweihander units or skirmishing infantry, but need more costly equipment to support it.

>>97343404
Why are you asking us what your preferences should be? Are you retarded?

Entirely dependent on your goals with the race.

Are they meant to be a people, something your characters interact with like people, have relations with, more lighthearted etc? Then make them look more like people.

Are they monsters, enemies, for killing, or just for a more serious setting? Then less human.

>>97353593
>how the fuck is 4chan the only sane place left
It's not really (it's way worse than it was in the 2000s or even the 2010s), it's just that everywhere else has become completely unpalatable to anyone with any sense of mental maturity. I assume it's the slippery slope of creating an "inclusive and welcoming community". It just forces everyone to conform to the lowest common denominator and incentivize neutering anything even remotely "harmful". 4chan is also pretty neutered these days, it's just not nearly as bad as everywhere else.

>>97345925
Make it impossible to cheat in creatures and spells, as a "you can't do this regardless of what the cards say" rule in the same sense as how an opponent's card can't be put in your library.
A rule like "If a spell or creature would come into play without paying a cost listed on the card, it fails to come into play. The cost can be modified, but not circumvented."
Not quite sure how you'd word it though. Like, Dark Depths is a weird example, as while the intended cost to summon the card's mentioned creature is 30 mana paid over installments, you could argue that the cost is to remove 10 tokens.

Also, no counterspelling without mana (or something on the table). Blue is overpowered for plenty of reasons, and being able to leave no lands untapped yet still secretly be able to cancel a massive spell is one of the stupider ones.

>>97353593
Ridicule is the father of competence.

>>97346142
Well, yeah, it aligns with the actual incentives these people have.

No product is safe under current corporate law. Fiduciary duty must be constitutionally reversed in every developed nation and replaced with a reasonable set of duties to consumers.

File: BUT WHAT ABOUT PORKEMON.jpg (340 KB, 784x1168)

340 KB JPG

>>97352730
Will you shut the fuck up with pokemon tcg?
Do you want me to go on a tangent how that game also suffers from the modern solitaire syndrome because they print absolute fucking cancer exactly meant for the commander type of players who just want to ejaculate all over the table and pretend they're good at card game.

What do you hope to get out of mentioning that shit?
>b.b.b.b.b.but le pokemon tcg has no negates and its bad THEREFORE NEGATES GOOD
fucking kill yourself holy shit
Yeah, i replied to you, bet i am seethingmaldingschizomadmeds and epic trolled right?
Joke's on you, i fucking enjoying getting pissed off at cattle like you so i can say the shit i want.

Know your fucking place, trash.

>>97339407
>>97339420
This is great! I miss this sort of guardfaggery.

File: Screenshot_20260111-115511.png (973 KB, 1060x625)

973 KB PNG

>>97338307
A couple years ago my friends and I put together a Kill Team Campaign all based around Vraks. As the resident Alpha Legion fanboy I took the role of The Faithless, the Alpha warband involved in the conflict.
Although I had to sell them during a move, they hold a really special place in my heart, in part for being what I bet will be the last time I get to use bits from the old Chaos Marines box since they're out of production.
TQs:
>What our /your dudes/ bad at
My guys gained a reputation for having heinous bad luck streaks, notably one where a distraction grot managed to survive an ungodly number of attacks all from the same Legionnaire. This evolved in our shared lore to the Kill Team having a 'blessing' from Tzeentch that was sort of like one of those really awful JoJo stands that just make your life suck or kill you.
>When was the last time they touched a table
That I can confirm? 2023. But I'm hopeful someone is still playing with them out there after I sold them to my LGS.
>What do you plan to do with them in the new year?
Miss them, mostly. But I'm hopeful that I can start hobbying again by the end of the year, in which case maybe I can kitbash up some successors.

bump

>>97338307
Oh, holy shit, it's back! Had been hoping for this to make a return.
>What are /your dudes/ bad at?
They've gotten into some serious shituations with sunk cost fallacy. It's probably the IW geneseed.
>When was the last time /your dudes/ touched a table?
Crucify me, anon, for the answer is 'never'. I rolled them up on the 1d4chan tables in '15, then they sat on the back shelf of my brain until a really good brainstorming session last year in which the majority of their lore was spitballed.
>What do you plan to do with /your dudes/ in the new year?
I plan to finalize their name, give them a color scheme, and flesh out their primary opposing force (it's orks) and the surrounding subsector.
So far I have:
>Adamant Sons (name pending)
>Founded for: Crusade
>During: M35, 14th-20th founding
>Progenitor: Traitor Legion or Unknown
>Gene-seed: Pure
>Demeanor: Purity Above All

Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>97353454
>cont.
Now I figure this is probably because a very minor Eldar craftworld, who I also need to invent, consulted their own future-telling folks, and decided "It's important that we go on this heading to prevent some form of unknown and unnamed disaster." This heading conveniently intercepted the Adamant Sons' (name pending) and they had a grand old firefight amidst a gathering warp storm. Aforementioned Heroic Action snapped the spine of the craftworld, which let out a bunch of souls or something similarly warpy, supercharging the storm and casting all ships involved into the depths of unreality.
Then they got shat out in scattered, slapdash fashion in a doldrums system which just so happened to have a gas giant (what I rolled up for their homeworld) with a gigantic orbital belt of highly advanced DAOT orbital manufactorums (representing the shitload of archaeotech I rolled)... and the orks, who had also been shat out in said doldrums, and were burning hard for the shiny new gubbins.
Now the threat that both divinations had seen became clear. If these orks were permitted to secure the system, it would become the industrial hub of a brand new Ullanor - and nobody wants a second War of the Beast. So the Adamant Sons (name pending) have been fighting said orks for control of the system ever since.

>>97333433
Yes, but nobody considers wizards builders of walls or cities.

>>97346294
People thought Roman constructions were the stuff of wizardry. Similar to those advanced Greek devices.

>>97346303
Yeah well they were just stupid okay

>>97348653
>projecting

>>97343604
Is a counter factual a kind of counter spell? Writing was once seen as a kind of magic.

>>97338407
We're rich!

>>97334368
kek

Not even close
True answer (chads only)

>hobbit
>hobbit
>hobbit
>hobbit

>>97334943
This couldn't be more performative.

>>97334359
No. The most kino party is any that sits on the spectrum between full human and full dwarf. Less kino is adding in some mix of gnomes, halflings, giant, or celestial. Then you get closer to the bottom for each furry/edgelord option added.

Wildcards are goblins, kobolds, and RP hardmodes like Kenku or Lizardfolk

File: Eoam19rWEAIVlZG-2252938884.jpg (92 KB, 830x600)

92 KB JPG

>>97336278
>What sci-fi setting has the best Space Rome?
Unironically these dudes.

File: file.png (1.11 MB, 900x545)

1.11 MB PNG

Always loved the roman influence in star trek when it came to the romulans

File: sebestyen.jpg (57 KB, 512x512)

57 KB JPG

>>97340399
Nah the Hegemony are the good guys, I myself almost exclusively play for the Hegemony
**Total Faggot League Death and Total Tri-Cuck Death**

>>97344214
>he bends the knee
Send another inspection fleet, I'm sure they'll survive the trip this time.

File: galactic-senate-8-retina_(...).jpg (304 KB, 2048x1295)

304 KB JPG

>>97336278
>Famed for it's military despite it's numerous military failures and questionable quality of soldiers
>Conquer the Galaxy primarily through trade and bribery rather than outright conflict
>Fought a competing commercial empire in a life and death struggle orchestrated by itself
>Took over effectively the entire known universe then inexplicably stopped rather than deal with the weird sand people
>Retarded Senate is ousted by Charismatic Senator with private military
>Rebellions and Civil Wars are fought but are incapable of actually making anything better than the height of the Empire
>Centuries later people still larp about being the true descendents

none of these screencaps actually disprove the new world order being globalistic neoliberalism

>>97352935
AI grifters also think old art is cringe though, not because it was made by men who believed in God, but because it's more expensive than sloppa.

>>97339250
"Modern liberals" have existed longer than the modern age itself. Mathematics of History details accounts of people arguing over gay marriage and minority/women's rights in as far-flung settings as the Sasanian Empire some 1500 years ago. The real conservative myth is that those people suddenly manifested into existence some time after WWII.

File: Sagrada_Família.jpg (409 KB, 960x1419)

409 KB JPG

>>97352935
On the other hand, the conservatives has been the primary group responsible for the preservation of old architecture, with the Sagrada Senpaiília being half archeology project and half educational tool, and there's been efforts to begin the construction of an additional cathedral in the traditional method in El Salvador following inspiration from Guédelon Castle.
Unless the Catholics get to be considered left wing for being Democrat supporters vaguely more often than they are Republican supporters even though rebelling against them was the prerequisite to the age of Enlightenment and most of their policies regarding societal norms on paper make your WASP look like a hippie.

>>97353605
Neoliberalism advocates for free markets and governments existing only to prop up and support the free market when it makes mistakes. It's directly opposed to taxation, welfare, regulation and any sort of government intervention - except in order to support the free market.

>>97335217
>I remember being 13-14 and having a massive horny crush on Amazon
I feel ya, brother

This existed?

>>97342708
no OP is making it up to fool you. Specifially you.

>>97342714
This, whole thread is just AI and bots. Sorry man, I was just joking, didn't mean to hurt anyone's feelings.

>>97316123
The affix system is actually pretty good and a lot of fun to use in tabletop. I couldn't care less about the rest, but finding a Serpent's Sword of the Stars is a lot cooler than getting a +2 Sword.

>>97349847
>there was an attempt to make it pozzed as fuck. There was a very strong push-back and that stopped the process. Then the cunts responsible simply left.
>Right now, 1d6 is pretty much 1d4 sans two or three pages
So, why can't the supposedly non-pozzed mods and admin restore those pages now...?
> compared with 2d4, which is abandonware AND the cunt that owns it turned out to be twice as pozzed as the cunts behind 1d6, with no end of censorship until he got bored and site is now spammed to hell by random advertising bots
welp

>>97336974
>>97338237
anon who posted the list here, like 1/5 of the movies on it are probably in the realm of wuxia
but being old movies they aren't as trope dense as modern wuxia content

>>97350230
>restore it
Because those were some obscure memes and nobody has a copy. They simply didn't migrate it from 1d4 when they had a copy
A bunch of other shit that got cut got restored, because people simply had copies on their own.

>>97350230
>>97350589
Consider this:
They cut the entire original approved movies list, just because. Took monumental edit war and eventually a DDoS to make them reconsider.
So considerting the level of damage anticipated and how it ended, I say it's workable.
2d4 meanwhile started out as 1:1 repository, but then the dumb fuck who set it up went with a machete across the pages, slashing whatever he felt like it, and openly saying that fuck keeping old shit, time to update.
Which is why 2d4 is now run by Korean spam bots, I guess

File: fantasy anime update.jpg (2.24 MB, 1700x3499)

2.24 MB JPG

Here's a thing. Or two.
https://files.catbox.moe/s0ua8g.jpg

>>97350205
Contacts!

The most important part of playing a face is lining up proper contacts, it's not just what your character can do, but who your character can call to get things easily. You want weird contacts people wouldn't think of, everyone ha an armorer or a fixer, practically no one has another decker as a contact, an ID broker, an attorney, a news broadcaster, a waitress in a popular nightclub.

If you play a face correctly, you should only have to bust out your own skills when actually on doing the run, or when buying or selling something. Contacts are your lifeline.

It's also better imo to have many smaller contacts, than one 6/6+, especially if your goal is to be the infobroker. Think of people or roles that would have access to lots of names and databases, police, city employees, financial planners, call centers, ect. You're idea is totally sound and how you are supposed to play.

>>97350205
Beyond contacts like previously mentioned you can also go for either a magic focused angle or a tech focused angle. Either way I'd suggest a bit of investment over time into some skills like sneaking, palming, and disguise to help in your information gathering actions and a bit of investment into agility to help with the sneaking and palming. Otherwise for attributes you'll want to focus on charisma, intuition, and logic since you'll be needing them for information gathering and knowledge skills anyway.
For magic you can use detection type spells and also use spirits for information gathering, mind reading, snooping, eavesdropping, lie detecting, and spying. You'd want to go with a charisma focused tradition to better mesh with your role as face and information guy and you will also need to add in magic and willpower to your important attributes which can make it a bit of a heavy investment. Personally I'd suggest magic even with that higher investment since it meshes well with your regular face role and gives you more utility and options, plus you can easily just pick up the computer skill on and off to do basic matrix info gathering and communication while also using non-augmentation tech like all the spy gear to bolster the info gathering otherwise. Though you can also rely on skilled contacts to cover some of the tech skill use and/or spy gear deployment.
But if you're interested in going the tech direction though you also have some alright options. Augmentation can be used to help boost your charisma, logic, and intuition as well as give you some super human level senses that could be helpful for your information gathering. There's also the option of adding in some decker skills so you can get information thru hacking or intercepting communications and the like. You'd still end up using a lot of the spy gear like you would as a magic using type, but honestly good gear use is the sort of thing all Shadowrunners ought to keep up on anyway.

>>97352650
Another pair of things to mention, in a sperate post rather than all in one due to posting size limit, are knowledge and language skills. Knowledge skills represent having a solid base of knowledge in a topic or set of topics, which can be helpful in that it gives you information you already know and don't have to gather new and can be used socially to help you get closer to potential information sources. Language skills are a subset of knowledge but are obviously helpful in that you need them to know other languages or meanings of slang and jargon, also your face skills start falling apart if you and the guy your talking to cannot understand each other.
One last thing to mention outside of all of that though is to not neglect having at least a bit of a fighting related skill since you never know when you're going to have to defend yourself, personally I'd suggest something like pistols since they're comparatively more concealable so that you can have one hidden on your person as backup while doing information gathering while it isn't obvious enough to put people in the area you're gathering info in on edge. Plus if you get caught in a fight alongside the rest of your team you can then at least fire a few rounds at the opposition to help out and it can help make prevent enemies from deciding that you're a magic user that needs to get geeked first.

File: Screenshot_20260112-154859.png (80 KB, 1079x319)

80 KB PNG

>>97336568
>>97350130
The original west marches post claimed to have a rotating cast of 10-14 players, I don't know where the hell you got 122 from.
https://arsludi.lamemage.com/index.php/78/grand-experiments-west-marches/

>>97351911
I think he's just a shitposting psycho, I don't see where in the original West Marches post it says it was run in a town of 5k people, either.

>>97351862
>lack of player agency in terms of what encounters they come across
Not really. Player agency is SUPER important to me, and I want to take it in consideration as much as possible. Once players encounter something in a hex, I want to make that thing more likely to appear that, to showcase consistency and lead to player decisions (eg: "let's avoid that hex, its full of venomous snakes")

In terms of actively locating something, if they have seen/fought cannibals around somewhere and are now actively looking for a settlement (I assume they have informed me of this), I will treat the cannibal settlement as a rumor. Rumors are not necessarily keyed/tied down to a particular hex, but have their odds increased on the area around the rumor. So for instance, I could maybe make all nearby hexes have a 1/6 chance of actually having a cannibal settlement, and probably I would make most of other types of encounter in that area be related to their goal of finding it, potentially containing clues

>Each new tile is a 1/12 chance of finding the major settlement
It's actually a 1/64 btw. The table goes from 2 to 12 but its a 2d8 roll, anything 12+ means "nothing is found". A cannibal settlement though would probably fall under the "minor settlement" category (3/64 or ~4.7%, but then again that's a chance of randomly walking into one without previous context)

>You might want to add more explicit room for you to modify how the land/encounters gets generated
I mean, I naturally reserve the right to not use the random results, or even not roll at all. Some cases are more expected - for instance, I have a roll for whether a hex contains a river or not, but I also have a rule that if there's a river in a hex, it will expand to an adjacent hex unless it finds a biome where it can ends (a lake, the ocean, etc)

I don't think it has to be 100% true to randomness. Such a robust procedure would be hard to both create & run. So I assume the rolls are more like guidelines

>>97352130
>I don't think it has to be 100% true to randomness. Such a robust procedure would be hard to both create & run. So I assume the rolls are more like guidelines
I agree with that mentality, trying to create a strict procedural system that works would just be burdensome.

Are you planning for all of the terrain and encounter generation to be open systems that the players understand and can see the rolls for, or is it something just to help you behind the screen?

>>97352584
>trying to create a strict procedural system that works would just be burdensome
Yeah. That's why I focused on creating the table that says "what kind of encounter it is", rather than the types of encounters themselves (what mobs, what happens, etc). I feel like its more important to have an overall idea and improvise, than trying to make something that strictly works as rolled every single time

Though note that right now I'm filling a table of ideas for random encounters based on biomes, so I have things to pull from when there's no existing context (if there's an existing context, such as party is looking for something or a place has already shown signs of something living there, then those would get additional odds to show up)

>Are you planning for all of the terrain and encounter generation to be open systems that the players understand and can see the rolls for
Partially

What I will make explicitly clear is how hexes work:
>The official hex map will be fully visible to the players
>I will let them know the movement cost & visibility of each kind of biome
>I will let them know that the more they travel to a hex, it reduces the random encounter chance and might also reduce travel cost

I won't bother explaining the hex procedure to players (though I could, nothing wrong with that). The encounter generation however won't be visible/explained to players, especially because I don't want them to know certain encounters (like, getting ambushed by a jaguar loses the point if they know it is going to happen)