I propose his nen ability is foresight. Tserriednich already has shown us time manipulation us possible with nen.
Hunter x hunter is over.
>>288190143>coloured mangai propose that you are likely a brown phone reader
>>288190368No...
>>288190143>Ging's Nen ability is Shanks' HakiYou're welcome, little bro.
he's too cool to have just one ability. he wants to learn them all
his Hatsu is probably supportive/symbiotic given that all his major endeavours (Greed Island, excavation fund) required certain amount of people to succeedit also fits his asocial character as a restriction
>>288190143I propose the chapters release faster
>>288194509I actually think both Ging and Beyond will have group abilities. One theory I've held is that Beyond's power will be something like a group radio/tracking system so he can connect people together for some kind of telepathic communication. As well as see their current locations and even status. He's an explorer first who has meticulously assembled a team for decades, he wants to keep those assetts alive no matter what.
>>288190143His nen ability was already revealed to be Copy, speedreader-kun
>>288197667
>>288190143I think it would be neat and thematically fitting for Ging to have some incredibly underwhelming/simple Hatsu like being able to speak to animals, and his position in the Association came from pure skill as a Hunter
>>288197722so his ability is just imitating punching abilities?? what a retard, he probably abandoned gon because he was so ashamed
>>288197812It's not his ability at all. He's just talented.
>>288197812It's not an ability. It's just his high level understanding of nen
>>288190143I bet Ging's ability changes based on some outside factor he can't control l, because in his opinion it'd be boring to always have the same power. No evidence for this directly, but Kaito's crazy slots was Ging's idea
>>288197722This is so stupid.
>>288197942>>288197812>so his ability is just imitating punching abilities??Ging just has a really strong grasp of nen fundamentals and punching abilities tend to be Ko and/or emitted punches. Those aren't that complicated.
Gee Hisoka, how come Togashi let's you have TWO abilities
>>288195921They are not gonna have overlapping abilities unless Togashi is preparing for them to split into two factions once they arrive. Which admittedly would be cool.
>>288197954A high understanding about nen shouldn't let you just copy someone's else ability, no matter how simple they are.
>>288190143No way, that'd completely ruin his fun, Ging would hate that.Given his personality, this >>288197788 is more likely to be the case.
>>288197989>A high understanding about nen shouldn't let you just copy someone's else abilityWing in the very beginning said that it's possible to learn any other ability given enough time, talent, and training. Ging was going up against a bunch of soldiers that all have the same ability to shoot nen bullets for instance. But Ging shouldn't be able to copy a power like Hakoware which is a punching ability, because it has a conjuration component that's very complicated. Just projecting aura along a surface is something anyone can learn and shouldn't be hard to replicate. Think of it like how Biscuit was teaching Gon and Killua basic techniques like shaping aura into numbers or blast themselves off the ground. It's something anyone can do if they had the mind to do it.
>>288197989Why wouldn't it? That doesn't mean his ability would be on par, depending on his proficiency in that nen category.It's not like, for example, Gon and Killua were born with Jajanken or transmuting electricity. They just figured out a cool ability to use and started perfecting it.Ging is at such a high level that he can immediately grasp how other people came up with their abilities and imitates them, although this is probably limited to relatively simple abilities.I doubt he could, for example, copy Kurapika's or Chrollo's abilities because they require special conditions.
>>288198110He literally describe as "ANY" punching ability, so who the fuck knows what's the limit for it? Togashi loves his asspulls too, so I wouldn't put my hand on fire to assume it's just simple hatsu.
>>288198193>He literally describe as "ANY" punching ability,The translation posted says "generally" as a qualifier to that "any". It's clear in context that people copying abilities aren't the same as ability theft where the power is taken wholesale. And Leorio's power is still comparably simple and Togashi follows that statement up with having Ging use another aspect of nen he attributes to Leorio which is using aura like an ultrasound to ping his surroundings stealthily. In other words. Ging downloaded Leorio's concept of nen from that warp punch, and emulated it as it operated on simple principles.
>>288198259Well, yeah, and that generally could mean anything. Togashi has an awful history with asspulls, so I will keep skeptical about this "natural talent" until I see it's really something simple or not. Anyway, the concept in itself is upsetting because it kills individuality. Leorio's warping punch is nowhere near as generic as plain transmutation or nen bullets.
>>288197722>>288197667You're the speedreader. We don't know his ability yet. He's saying that he is so talented and skilled with nen that he can copy other people's punches without trying. This isn't his actual ability
>>288198370>and that generally could mean anythingIt can't by it's literal definition and within context. And I'm more than confident that Togashi won't asspull anything egregious with Ging here because as I stated originally; most punching abilities are either Ko or projected aura. The funkier ones easily exceed what Ging would be able to copy without having to commit memory space and more training. What you are doing is saying that emissions allowing the user to send aura through a medium to a target is so hard it makes it a restrictive Hatsu. Meanwhile Leorio who was the member of the main 4 who lagged the most behind the group does it. Ging shows how Leorio can do it for other purposes, and even Halkenburg utilizes this with how his arrow phases through surfaces to hit his desired target. >Anyway, the concept in itself is upsetting because it kills individualityBiscuit already establishes that there are principles of nen everyone should know and can learn. Emitted aura going through matter is probably some level 8 stuff in her curriculum. Since most other Emitters with a projected attack seem to favor damage so damaging the first thing their shots encounter is simpler and more efficient. But what Ging is doing is leveraging the mechanisms of how a power works as evidenced by something as simple as his pip play. He has incredible aura control, dexterity, and knowledge. Like how all those characters emitting a nen construct are using transmutation to give it form and definition. Or how everyone regardless of nen affinity are using enhancement to boost their body and tool's functionality. This was simply a showing of why Ging is regarded a top 5 nen user of his generation.
So what's the limit of strengthening an object with the use of Ten or Shu?I was considering how would picrel fit in HxH since his ability is to enhance any weapon he holds up to an hundredfold.His ace though is a katana that can cut space and time. Normaly it can't go further than a few centimeters and barely an instant back into the past or forward into the future, but with his power Mirror Lion he can send it minutes into the past, meters away from him, to change the outcome of a battle.Would his power be impressive?
>>288198629Kurapika's master talks a little bit about the limits of Conjured objects, I assume it's something similar with Enhancing tools
>>288198717Perhaps, we have seen paper cut people and soda cans, and shovels digging through bedrock like it was made of pudding. But we haven't seen the limites of Ten/Shu, or what distinguish two enhanced items clashing against one another
>>288190143His nen power is to suck dicks.
Seg with Masha
>>288190143dead series.
>>288190998>colored manga is LE BAD
>>288190143He gets physically stronger the further away he is from his offspring.
They have so much sexual tension. Do you think Ging is going to breed him?
>>288202771He'll be a beast on the Dark Continent
>>288202854just like leorio and pika, the new boar and rat members
>>288197989>A high understanding about nen shouldn't let you just copy someone's else abilityI don't see why not.The Enhancement class for example is mostly made up of very simple techniques. There's no reason why someone like Uvo for example would struggle with replicating Jajanken's Rock attack.Ging just takes this to an extreme because he can steal any punching ability, even one that's a little complex like Leorio's.
>>288202962Togashi really is the best, I completely forgot about that.
>>288202557It is.
>>288190143His Nen ability is giving Togashi back pains
>>288202524It will be alive when WSJ releases the chapters
>>288198370Leorio developed his ability for medicine, but it's not that personal to him. Becoming a doctor is personal, yes, but the ability itself is like a tool he came up with, it's not a big reflection of his soul or something.
>>288202557Most of the time they look like shit, just look at the digitally colored JoJo editions, they look horrible.
>>288198030Or maybe that's why he's so bored. He generally knows what will happen. Maybe not every detail.
>>288197905That's an interesting inference, you could also argue that we'd have known Ging understands nen fundamentals really well from how Greed Island is able to function. Although I think crazy slots factored Kite not wanting to kill, because it makes the decision for him. Ging seems like he prefers having a grip on what he's doing, which is why he gets so awkward after Gon's appearance.>>288195921Netero mentioned that the only challenge is survival on the dark continent, so I'd guess Ging would get far because he can improvise when he needs to, while Beyond will also make a lot of progress from meticulous planning. They could later end up serving as some kind of analogy about how to approach life
Is the Yu Yu Hakusho manga worth reading if I've watched the anime already?
>>288190143I always thought gings nen ability would be a group ability uniting ten or more of his friends and making them all super strong. Similar to morena or halkenburg. He unites his friends and boosts the power of their nen. His hatsu is a support ability and his power as a fighter comes from his mastery of nen fundamentals. Thats how he made greed island, its been a theory for a while and i think its on the money. Especially considering his talk with gon. Gings a weird antisocial dude but he is the biggest believer in the power of friendship in the whole manga, he even entrusted gons friends to save him after the chimera ant arc. >>288198030>>288198110>>288194509>>288195921I agree with all your points
>>288205581i read the manga some time after the binging the anime and i enjoyed it quite a bit. Theres quite a bit of stuff in the first and last chunks that the anime leaves out, and togashis art at its best has a certain style and appeal that no anime adaptation can really do justice.
>>288197988>They are not gonna have overlapping abilitiesBoth having some kind of group activated ability doesn't mean they will have overlapping abilities. Just look at the current arc where Morena has a group ability where everyone can individually work towards a mutual goal with her providing oversight and having some measure of oversight as to their activities. And then you have Halkenburg where he individually increases power but the current expression of his tattoos is a symbiotic attack that is the strongest in the series. On top of that Beyond having his cursed brands on his bastards shows that like Ging he also understands and has implemented at least one collaborative power to date (Ging has Greed Island).
Do you think the succession battle will have 13 of the princes die, or will there be an outside factor that ends it in some inconceivable way?
>>288206857Kurapika and chrollo both have the same goal of ending the succession war pre maturely. i think its likely one of them succeeds. I think the war will end with 3 or 4 of the princes alive but the infrastructure of kakin in complete ruin
>>288202854Ging bottoms
>>288206857i think pika is going to die
>>288207157Absolutely not, Ging is the one on the attack in those panels. Pariston however, is a power bottom.
>>288207297o my magic rice
what category's hatsu do you think is the most difficult for togashi to design.
>>288207571Transmutation.
>>288190143he has no nen ability because Enhancers don't need one.
>>288207157
>>288207716uvogin already did that
>>288207937and?he had big bang impact
>>288190143Who cares?We'll never know because this kusomanga will never end
>>288207895This is basically canon
>>288207895lmao
Is Morel's smoke real or transmuted?
>>288207895Correct, except Pariston was the mother.
>>288210016There's arguments for both sides. The real smoke side can cite that Peon chimera ants could see the smoke and that it apparently has a smell. The Transmuted smoke side can cite the wording of the later description of the smoke. Another argument for it being real is the claim that a manipulator would not use a 40% affinity for transmutation on top of emissions and manipulation. The counter for this is that transmutation isn't as hard in this context as some basic functions are used by Morel and his smoke is ultimately just a single form he could be granting his aura. We ultimately don't know.
>>288197989He's only copying the technique of the ability, if it has a restriction he probably can't use it, same if the ability is a Hatsu he's really inefficient in, or if the punch is part of a larger ability.
>>288208466>Who cares?>We'll never know because this kusomanga will never end
Is it pronounced like saar-ed-nick?
>>288210079Transmuted purely because we never see Morel ever have to light up his pipe nor is any actually tobacco ever seen in it. Plus he's was able to blow smoke out of it underwater which wouldn't make sense if it was real.
>>288210245I agree it's likely transmuted aura but I'm also not trying to run through the whole list of points in either sides favor.
Will she survive the arc?
>>288210245>>288210294It's conjured, not transmuted. That explains how the peons can see it and how it worked underwater.
Are we going yet, Hunterchads?
I Need Chi
ok but like, when are the new chapters supposed to be released? What the fuck is taking so long?
>>288197722>>288198521To be fair Togashi writing is so bad that it wouldn't matter, Ging could simply have 10 different abilities like Kulopika, because why not, it could also just be that but for some reason only that is enough to time travel somehow since Nen branches are irrelevant now.
>>288212028DQ7 reimagined came out
>>288190143Togashi needs to stop teasing the spiders death and just have hisoka down them.
>>288212243I legitimately don't understand how people play that snorefest of a franchise for hours on end.
>>288212162>since Nen branches are irrelevant now.What makes you think that?
>>288212744Probably thinking specialist is too OP
>>288212299Only patricians appreciate DQ sorry
>>288202995>wouldn’t pick up his calls>now glad he’s thereTsun bitch
>>288194509It's probably something like this and the restriction is that it only works on people that have accepted him out of their own free will without coercion/manipulation.That would also explain why he wanted to be Beyonds #2 so badly.Also Ging being a support type would be the kind of subversion that Togashi loves.
>>288190143And the condition to use that power is to be a bum?
>>288215523The condition to use that power is to take it in the ass from Pariston.
>>288215523The condition is to refuse every single person he ever cared about, hence being a deadbeat dad and a shitty friend to everybody he ever met.
netero hired zeno to help him split the royal guard from the king, right? does this mean that zeno could have fought along side with gon and killua against pitou if komugi wasn't there? would have zeno told gon and killua to fuck off and handle pitou all by himself or team up with them knowing how strong she is?
>>288191557>...
what the fuck is her problem?
>>288217067Wonder how horrified she will be when she listens to tserriednich's heart.
>>288217067You think the sonata of darkness will come up in the dark continent?
So the new conditions for Chrollo's bookmark are to explain all the abilities he will use in the fight? He basically told Hisoka all the abilities he will be using.
>>288217127I'm willing to bet that tserriednich will try to collect her arm when they eventually meet.>>288217208We'll probably find the origins there.
>>288210788probably not
Any guesses for how far we are through the arc? In the last batch anons were speculating that MARTIAL LAW was roughly the halfway point, like Chimera Ant's palace raid, but it seems like to me that there are too many plot threads to get resolved in that time.
>>288218240Halfway seems reasonable. As for plot threads, there aren't that many are there?>Spiders>Succession War>MorenaWith many details in them, sure. I just think that when the climax comes, it's gonna be quick because all characters are in one location, unlike idk ASOIAF.Ok that was my cope take. But I don't think we're less than 1/3rd of the way there.
>>288190143his ability is probably something insanely simple, like the spirit gun, but with even more restrictions
Ging is aiming for dark continent as part of a group and he insist on a commanding position, like his previous endeavours, so his abilities should accommodate thusly. He probably has small aura pool so he need the numbers
>>288216696I think the zoldycks stuck around in some way during palace invasion because Tsubone knew about Killuas light speed technique next arc
togashi should just give up.
>>288204166On reflection, I think Ging's power might be a combination of unknown+ group power >Ging can unite with a group of dedicated people around a single purpose >The more people they are, and the stronger their resolve, the more powerful Ging's ability is>Once they're united, Ging gains a new men power that's helpful towards achieving their shared purpose, and synergizes with some of the other members >However, he doesn't know what the ability will be beforehand That kinda thing would fit him perfectly
>>288220899WSJ should release the next chapters
>>288190143His nen ability is about getting mpreg.
is enhancer the best category?
>>288222965Emitter>Enhancer>Manipulator=Transmuter>Conjurer. Specialists could be anywhere depending on the power
>>288222965a lot of people seem to think soit has the most immediate and practical benefits both in and out of combat
I write character sheets for my original characters in this series. togashi make some content so i don't lose my mind.
>>288203732You're trying too hard.
>>288197788>>288198030Impossible. Hunters are required to be strong as fuck. Unless he's an enhancer his hatsu can't be something trivial or that couldn't be used to deal serious damage in a fight or something broken that can incapacitate an ennemy. Besides, Netero did say that Ging is one of the best when it comes to nen mastery
>>288218443don't forget- Silent Majority- Beyond Netero's children- Kaiser's manipulator(?)
>>288217208It's probably related to Hellbell, since bell is in the name and all.Might be that the original Sonata was created by transcribing the rattle of Hellbell.At least it would neatly tie in that loose end with one of the calamities.
>>288223078Why do so many fans consider conjuration the worst category when we've seen some of the strongest abilities come from that category?
>>288224745Lack of creativity
>>288224607Can't help, but think Beyond's kids are a red herring.
> excitedly tell my friends the manga is returning this earlier this year> already halfway through the year> they’re making fun of meTOGASHI! I CANNOT TAKE ANY MORE OF THIS HUMILIATION!
>>288224745it seems like it takes a lot of training to make something that is strong or useful only situationally, while an enhancer who spends the same amount of time training as a conjurer would get much more benefit from the physical enhancement
>>288224909They definitely won't all be revealed for the succession war arc, I agree. However, I do think we'll get more info from them that will keep them at the top of our mind for the dark continent where they'll most likely play a bigger role.
>>288217217I’m not sure if Chrollo needs to meet conditions to activate bookmark during the fight, or if he had previously met the conditions, presumably by getting a Skill Hunter upgrade through a national heist. Maybe it required both: (1) national heist for the option to upgrade and (2) selecting the upgrade with the appropriate restrictions or conditions.
>>288223078I feel that people overrate enhancers because we mostly see the absolutely broken ones like Gon, Uvogin and Netero.But guys like Gotoh, Gido or Kastro really aren't that impressive.Also enhancement doesn't tend to have any special properties on their hatsu, it's mostly ungabunga, which can be fine but if you're not stronger there's not much you can do.With other nen types it's much more matchup dependent and how you use your ability.
>>288207297Kurapika will die briefly by the judgement chain stabbing his heart but Leorio will save him from death with his nen ability. Kurapika enters a coma and Leorio goes to the DC to get his hands on nitro rice or some other cure.
>>288224745They're not BAD, just the least powerful. You can only summon a single object (or from a set of objects) and it has to be the same object every time, so the potential for growth is more limited compared to other categories. Your Enhancement facility is also poor which doesn't do you any favors. Also that ability you posted is very narrow, Saul Goodman can only make it work while he's on his clients' property. Conjuration works better as a support ability. >>288225177You can get more abstract with enhancement, just look at Dogman's insanely useful sense of smell or Netero enhancing the speed of his prayers. This is in addition to having a rock-solid offense and defense.
>>288197989>A high understanding about nen shouldn't let you just copy someone's else ability, no matter how simple they are.What if the first thing Ging did when he learned nen was to learn to enhance his brain?If he did that first, while continuing to master nen, he would create a feedback loop which would make his nen mastery scale exponentially.This is what most smart people would do.
Is this too broken?The Thread (Manipulation)Milluki establishes a coercive manipulation link with a target by implanting a physical or digital “seed” a crafted object the target willingly accepts, a data packet they open, a file they execute, or a piece of custom hardware they install. Once the seed is accepted, Milluki can issue motor commands to the target’s body from any distance. The target retains full consciousness and awareness, feeling their body move without their consent. They can see what they are doing, think and speak, but cannot resist the physical commands. Milluki can make them walk, speak pre-written phrases, operate equipment, or sit perfectly still for hours.condition: Milluki cannot puppet a target who has never accepted anything from him voluntarily.
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>>288225374>...BUT YOU CAN'T CONJURE SOMETHING OVERLY SUPER-NATURAL.Someone gotta explain that one to me. What counts as “overly supernatural”?Because shit like the granny turning herself into a motorcycle or a plane seems fitting. Or is it like you can’t conjure things that don’t exist without a real life model? Like you can’t summon aliens or a flying saucer if you haven’t seen a real one?
>>288223728Biscuit is incredibly strong, not an enhancer, and her hatsu is a literal joke.
>>288190143He probably has Spirit Gun. He looks like Yusuke, is going to the "other world" to visit his paternal ancestor and when telling Gon a story from his past he holds his hand up making a gun with his finger and looks down it like he's aiming to shoot.>>288197788>>288198030I was actually thinking just yesterday about how Hunter x Hunter is somewhat unique among battle shounen in that its power system is orthogonal to the occupation of the main characters. This is also true of One Piece, but Devil Fruits make sense for pirates, and JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, but that's because it's bizarre. In other series, the characters are some kind of martial artists, so it makes sense for them to have magic kung fu. In Hunter x Hunter, the characters are hunters - rangers, bounty hunters, etc. - but the power system has nothing to do with survival or hunting, it's just magic kung fu (mental remix). While this is strange and is the reason the first arc goes by without a power system, it also allows characters who aren't hunters to be relevant to the plot, such as assassins, thieves and martial artists.For this reason, I think the Dark Continent is Togashi's way of putting the focus back on hunters. This is why it was important to him to have Netero go to the Dark Continent and leave unsatisfied. Netero is a martial artist. He admits that his son is more of a hunter than he is. Martial artists care about self-control and self-improvement, and testing their mettle against other people. In a world of giant monsters, poison swamps and magical man-eating plants, a martial artist just turns around and goes home. But hunters are all about navigating a dangerous world to track down and collect some treasure, or to master their environment in order to protect it from other hunters (as rangers did historically). They're all about being surrounded by beasts and plants and magic rocks - that's what makes the hunt fun!
kurta are nasty savages. the troupe did the world a favor.
>>288225111He had like 5 or 4 conditions he needed to meet to steal an ability. Now he needs new ones to use bookmark. I'm thinking he has to explain the abilities he will be using and what they do.
>>288197788he could have something related to restoring/locating ruins.
being one of the “five best Nen users in the world” probably does not mean top 5 strongest characters. i've seen so many people say it's the same thing, but we don't have indication that is true.
>>288207297For Leorio's character, Kurapika can't die for real. It's possible he'll be in critical condition or a coma during the Dark Continent and Leorio will have to find something that can save him.>>288207571Transmutation.Enhancement and Emission are easy for minor characters, just make them punch or aura blast enemies. Conjuration and Manipulation are easy for puzzle box enemies or arc allies, whatever tools or obstacles Togashi wants to have in the current arc, you can create most interesting abilities with these and readers will have trouble figuring out if they're balanced or not. Specialization is obviously easy since anything can be Specialization, even an ability that breaks the rules, but you can't have too many of them so he usually saves them for walking MacGuffins or major antagonists.Transmutation is caught in a weird middle area, but I think it's mostly in Togashi's head. If Nen was real, there'd be a ton of Transmuters with the same abilities. People making their aura sharp or hard or turning themselves into a giant amoeba with tentacle whips and stuff. Transmutation should be just as general as Emission, so there's no reason to come up with some super special unique interesting power for every Transmuter, but Togashi tries anyway and it results in Transmutation being the rarest Hatsu, when it should be third most common.At the very least, I think Vict's Tackle Shield is Transmutation (turn aura into a hard shield with a sharp spike on the front and ram it into your enemy). Longhi's Moonlight Act might be, too - there's no fucking way it's Manipulation.
>>288190143>Nen can not create anything that´s impossible for humans >Time manipulation nen Well, that´s awkward...
>>288229551specialists are snowflakes.
>>288210236This is a Japanese series and Japanese is a phonetic language, anon.>>288212028These charts are confusing, because there's a difference between the background specifications being done and the backgrounds being done. So there isn't a color indicating when the actual backgrounds and dialogue were implemented. Togashi draws the characters, inks them, writes the background specifications, then his assistants do the backgrounds, and then he/they/whoever adds the dialogue (this takes a day at most), and finally he goes over it with his editor so there's a gap in time between adding dialogue and sending it to WSJ.
>>288218240The people who think we're entering the palace raid are the same people who thought the arc would be over by now because they're retards. Manga fans are notoriously horrendous at predicting the trajectory of arcs. I've spent years watching anons fail at this over and over again and I've realized what the problem is: everyone always assumes the least path of resistance, a straight line from now to the conclusion. Anons didn't predict Borksen's subplot or drama breaking up the Troupe and Hinrigh because that's MORE stuff, and they always without question just assume nothing new will be added and we're heading straight for the finish line. I bet if you go back 25 years ago, you'll see most people predicting that the Chimera Ant Arc would be 50 chapters. When the King flew off and Colt surrendered to Morel and Knov, they must've been so fucking confused. What morons.This arc isn't ending before 520. It's a much more complicated arc than the Chimera Ant Arc and its chapter count will reflect that. Togashi has set up a two month long boat ride and multiple groups of people learning Nen, which takes time. There was no point to any of this buildup if shit just hits the fan now. Benjamin is dying here, martial law will be withdrawn and then the plot will continue with fewer participants.
>>288229266Cha-R hands wrote this post.
>>288225374>You can only summon a single object (or from a set of objects)With a single ability. You can have multiple abilities, like Genthru, it's just further burden on your brain. But I don't think you can look at Tsubone's seven vehicles or Kurapika's five chains and go, "Yup, look at that lame-ass SINGLE ability.">it has to be the same object every timeI know what you mean when you say this, but technically you can have a Conjuration ability that makes something new every time, like Biohazard and Gallery Fake, but those don't add special properties.>>288228210I don't have the raws, but my assumption even back in the day was that he meant you can't conjure something SUPERLATIVE. You can create a great sword, but you can't create the GREATEST sword. You can't conjure a sword with the property "cuts through anything" - unless maybe it comes with an equally extreme cost, since we were also told you can't conjure something indestructible, but Potclean has never been harmed.
>>288221828Whatever it is, Togashi will dedicate an entire chapter to explain it.
so, how is togashi going to justify the troupe killing the kurta. you know he is.
>>288229850>I don't have the raws, but my assumption even back in the day was that he meant you can't conjure something SUPERLATIVEIn retrospect, this is the correct way to interpret it after we have seen Kite's ability but there was a decade where that line made conjuration seem trash
>>288229850>With a single ability. You can have multiple abilities, like Genthru, it's just further burden on your brain. But I don't think you can look at Tsubone's seven vehicles or Kurapika's five chains and go, "Yup, look at that lame-ass SINGLE ability."Pika cheats with his specialization, and Gensuru's abilities were designed to take out a large number of shit tier nen users at once(they were probably made specifically with his betrayal of the GI group in mind). With the exception of Kite, all the conjurers we've seen have been support, and even Kite needed an inconvenient restriction. Whereas other categories routinely have users with either valuable support abilities OR useful combat abilities; sometimes both. >>288230032Pariston/Sheila tricked the troupe into thinking the Kurta had killed her. Not that it justifies what the Troupe did.
>>288218240It's hard to say. I still suspect the climax will be a big conflagration, but that itself could take a long time depending on how Togashi decides to handle the action and how he decides to have plot threads intersect.Togashi's built in a bomb with Tserriednich. He can't drag his ass indefinitely without jeopardizing that tension, but as I already said the climax itself could be extensive. Just think about what the Troupe and Hisoka alone would warrant in terms of chapter count. There could easily be another 100 chapters without further complication.
>>288218240I think with the last volume we reached the point where Togashi has stopped adding new plot threads, and is starting to resolve them. I struggle to think of exactly when that occurred during the Chimera ants, but I think the last time a new piece was introduced was Bizeff, in chapter 250. That was approximately the halfway point of the arc but well before the climax of the palace invasion. There are significantly more plot threads this time so if I had to guess, I'd say we're maybe 40% of the way through the succession war arc.
>>288223728>Hunters are required to be strong as fuckThe average hunter is an absolute jobber. Hisoka slaughters them en mass.
Thoughts? it took me almost an hour to write. (Specialization)The Flavor Trace When Pickle eats a dish prepared by someone else, she experiences the strongest emotional memory embedded in that food. The memory is not a video it is a complete sensory snapshot of the moment the cook was thinking about while preparing the dish. She tastes their mood (grief tastes metallic, joy tastes rounded and warm, fear tastes sharp and cold). She does not see the cook's face or hear their words, but she feels exactly what they felt. The more complex the dish, the clearer the memory. A simple boiled egg carries only vague impressions. A seven course tasting menu carries the entire emotional arc of the chef's week.Terroir Recall By tasting a dish, Pickle can isolate the geographic origin of each primary ingredient based on the "soil memory" carried by the food. Soil from different regions has a distinct aura flavor volcanic soil tastes sharp and mineral, river-delta soil tastes dense and green, coastal soil tastes of salt and decay. She can identify the region, and sometimes the specific farm or supplier, of any ingredient that retains enough of its original character.Last Meal Echo By tasting food that was prepared or consumed by a specific person shortly before a significant event (their death, a disappearance, a crime), Pickle experiences a compressed version of that person's final moments not as a narrative, but as a sequence of physical sensations. She feels the temperature of the room they were in, the position of their body, the speed of their breathing. She does not see anything. She feels the shape of the space around them through their own sensory memory. This is her most exhausting and emotionally draining ability.
>>288229520>or turning themselves into a giant amoeba with tentacle whips and stuff.I feel called out. Since an OC I pitched in these threads was a nen user, transmutter/conjurer that could make tentacles out of her. Those tentacles, like an octopus, had also brains in there to increase her intellect and reaction time.
>>288229551>>Time manipulation nenIt's not time manipulation. It's a combination precognitive and illusory ability. Terror Sandwich sees the future and causes people to see the actions he foresaw while he himself is able to move and act as he pleases. There are lots of questions about specific limitations or aspects of the ability since it was only used against a single person in a locked room scenario but it's well within the boundaries of HxH abilities. Basically combining Neon Nostrade's divination with Melody's AOE illusion field.
>>288224915I think this one's on WSJ and not Togashiafaik Togashi handed over the chapters to them like 3 or 4 months ago
>>288229266You could say the same thing about Hisoka casually getting rid of spiders
>>288221828>men powerSTRONG MEN?
>>288190143>we have a bazillion chapters ready! That was almost a year ago, what the fuck is happening?
>>288231905I don't like when Togapi's twitter goes darkThere's a rumor that WSJ is requesting 20 chapters instead of the usual 10 though
>>288217208Do you guys think hxh Satan rly made it?
>>288190143Who is the authors favorite character.
>>288232050Worst case it was made by some entity from the Dark Continent making it an unofficial 6th calamity. Otherwise it's just someones fucked up nen ability.
>>288232073Probably Hisoka
>>288232104>>288232073Or well, I meant it's probably Hisoka if you're specifically talking about HxH - I have no idea who his Favorite Character would be if you're talking about stuff outside of HxH
>>288232073i think he said chrollo
>>288232073Tonpa
>>288232073Zepile.
>>288232723It was a dick move for Gon and Killua not to teach him Nen.
>>288232740And it was even more of a dick move for Killua to ruin the Hunter exam for him. Guy got shafted
>>288229850>I don't have the raws, but my assumption even back in the day was that he meant you can't conjure something SUPERLATIVE. You can create a great sword, but you can't create the GREATEST sword. You can't conjure a sword with the property "cuts through anything" - unless maybe it comes with an equally extreme cost, since we were also told you can't conjure something indestructible, but Potclean has never been harmed.By you're understanding of the ability to conjure something like an extremely light, sharp, and durable sword, but it cannot be a sword that radiates an energy type or that can cut-through-gods or the fabric of reality.
Been re-reading and my dumb ass just realized something. If the chimera ants are a threat known to belong to the dark continent and they operate somewhat like the ants we know that means there are possibly thousands of kings feeding and fighting in a much stronger place. This means that the average food chain includes plenty of creatures capable of killing stronger versions of Meruem.How the fuck did anyone return? Beyond doesnt really look like he would be able to do half of what Netero did. Also how the fuck is Hellbell even a comparable threat lmao.
>>288224915could have sworn it was supposed to start after CSM+Modulo ended
>>288232960the ants that gon's group faced were stronger
>>288223728>>288230435Powerscaling hunters with IRL people is basically impossible. The Hunter Exam had people running for at least 80 km, this doesn't include the stairs portion which could have put it closer to 100 or more. For comparison a marathon is 40 km and the world record is two hours. This suggests that even the most basic hunter exam graduates have physical capacities that far exceed any real world athletes. Hunters like Hisoka and Ging basically monsters among monsters.
>>288190143Is this even worth discussing? This manga will never be finished and we will never know the answers to these things.
>>288212299japs enjoy seeing number go up and teenager kills god plots, we westoids wouldn't get it
>>288237487luv her
>>288230583very specific but also interesting, clearly useless in the scope of a story which involves fights but I like it a lot.
>>288224745If we're talking about damage output I'd say to date the strongest abilities so far have revolved around emissions, enhancement, and/or transmutation. If conjuration is involved (like with pain packer) it's purely support or highly restrictive like Bonolenov's battle Cantibles. Conjuration is versatile but highly conditional the more powerful you want. And it seems to have the most overall rules tacked onto creating abilities when interacting with other categories. The tradeoff seems to be that conjurers get the greatest access to new abilities and effects purely with conjuration such as>absorbing/exorcising aura>special abilities like dowsing chain>invincibility>enforcing rules in nen spaces>enforcing rules through nen constructs>housing other nen types at maximum potency (countdown explosion vs little flower explosion)>etcSo the ideal conjuration ability is used alongside other nen categories.
>>288207895>>288208674Yes.
What if an enhancer hatsu is to increase (or multiply the modifier) any nen contracts he makes with himself? A bit like how Gojo and Sukuna were doing and changing vows on the fly during their fight?
>>288238113That seems to be the principle behind the Untouchable's curse hatsu. Using strong emotions + time + proximity to enhance the overall strength of their ability when activated. I would assume the same was true for Gon-san; if he had fought Pitou a week after Kite's death it wouldn't have been as strong as having to stew in his emotions for a couple months before unleashing it.
>>288190368This. It doesn't matter. No one gives a shit. Press S to spit on Togashi'a sore back and call him a lazy faggot.
>>288238113>>288198370What if HxH had a fifth heroine (a ganguro) who could manipulate blood and specialized in Emission, while Leorio was a Conjurer?
>>288234623>>288237487>>288237566Old hags....
>>288231992>>288238344He should make Gon x Noko and Killua x Anita canon
is alluka only a specialist because of nanika?
It's so cool how conjurers practice by visualizing an object. Feeling it's weight, pretending it's really there, until it is.Try it irl, it's fun.
Rate my ability(Enhancement-Transmutation)Cock Shaper:When I shove an object into my asshole, my penis takes the form of the object.
>>288238898... are the future>>288240097isn't that how people make tulpas or whatever? seems kinda cool but also a good way to make yourself go insane
Nen Beasts are bootlegs of JJBA Stands and Shaman King Oversouls.
>>288240302Maybe.
>>288190143>Nen Ability: Milk Fetching
>>288240458hxh wouldn't exist without jojo.
>>288237487>>288240302
>>288201297hot spider sex
>>288240260Sounds like an ability a Shadow Beast would have.
>>288240957I wonder what the Chimera Ant arc would be like in 1999 style?
>>288240729jojo wouldn't exist without american music
>>288241089it would be much more kino
>>288229520>Longhi's Moonlight Act might be, too - there's no fucking way it's Manipulation.I agree with everything else you said except this, how the fuck does this ability NOT contain manipulation?
>>288241127>AmericanPillermans did invented them
>Pillermans did invented them
>>288225746I think it needs a few more restrictions. Milluki needs to personally make the seed right? can he use the same one multiple times? How many commands can he give? For how long? Multiple commands at the same time or only one?
>>288241388Picture of you
>>288229850Potclean being invulnerable is kind of understandable, as it is a helpful indicator of the power itself, it needs to be attacked in a different vector, either by fulfilling the conditions to end the ability, or having it exorcised. JIDF makes less sense to me, because, while the conditions that it must be used on the clients property, and while the enemy is warned of trespassing, I'm wondering what would happen if someone else attacked for example, Nobunaga when he was bound and grappled. Would the ability de-activate? thats the only way it would be balanced in my opinion, though I suppose the same could be said about Melody's AOE stun.
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>>288241739...to be victim of Kurapika's bucked (un)broken chain
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What defines a troupe member? How was Hisoka not one? is it because he didn’t have a real tattoo or was it because Hisoka had zero loyalty to the group's cause?
>>288242417Tienbros...
>>288241388>>288242152
>>288242393How long is her pube?
>>288190143>in foresightMight as well be forever-sight with how long Togashi is currently taking.
>>288243198Bisky is 100% the type of girl to stay waxed down there at all times
>>288232078How horrible do they have to be to have the sonata of darkness as a nen ability? Tserreidnich tier?
>>288238349it would be much more kino
>>288243354Does she enhance the hair?
>>288203162'soka is so lucky to have a chi in his life
>>288244789Her feet cover in my bungee gum and coconut milk.
How the movie?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-dXnqa1CMs
>>288192718You mean Minato
I started watching the older of the 2 adaptation of the anime recently. It has it's positives and negatives over the 2011 version. It's interesting.
>>288190368fpbp, togashi took way too long and admitted in his dogshit "chapter 1000 ending" that he doesn't have a back up for when he dies, he'll die, hxh will have no actual end, everyone will shit on it and the obnoxious faggots who like it and then move on, and all of this because togashi is too arrogant, just like his fans, to allow someone else to draw it for him while he writes or sketches it without breaking his back>>288197722>>288197942i concur that it's retarded, but i stopped caring after they revealed that teleporting and pocket dimensions aren't specialist abilities. Also the insane haitus.>>288197954leorio's ability wasn't that simple though iirc, I'd get it if he copied shit like gon's ability which is braindead
>>288246046>but i stopped caring after they revealed that teleporting and pocket dimensions aren't specialist abilitiesSeems like pretty consistent writing since Yorknew with Owl's Fun Fun Cloth as Specialist abilities have never involved spacial manipulation.
>>288242393>>288246294>>288247050>>288247729OMG BISKY HI!
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>>288245479>her feet cover in bungee gumcanon
>>288230084>there was a decade where that line made conjuration seem trashNot really, since Kurapika used Dowsing Chain and Owl used Fun Fun Cloth before Izunavi said that line. I guess you could say "dowsing is real *wink*" and maybe shrinking something with a cloth isn't that crazy to you, but a dozen chapters after Izunavi's line, Chrollo used Indoor Fish. If Indoor Fish isn't "overly supernatural" then what the fuck is?>>288230159>Pika cheats with his specializationIt functions as a weapon, lie detector, tracker, soft heal, aura stealer and complete disabler against Spiders without the use of his eyes.>Gensuru's abilities were designed to take out a large number of shit tier nen users at onceHe still would've beaten Gon in a 1v1 and he also beat Jispa who was the strongest fighter in the group. I think you're underrating his ability to just grab people and blow them up.>all the conjurers we've seen have been supportWould you consider Welfin, Knuckle and Yushohi support? Yeah, they don't just conjure a bomb (although you downplayed the guy who literally does do that) or a shotgun or something, but that's because that'd be lame. You're a spellcaster, it's way more useful to have a bunch of utility spells than just seven flavors of Fireball. You won't be as strong in a direct fight as an Enhancer, but that's the point of Nen types going further down the pentagon, they're more specialized, Izunavi says as much.
>>288248588foreverial gummedup machi, bungee mummified permanently and enjoying it
>>288230360>I think with the last volume we reached the point where Togashi has stopped adding new plot threads, and is starting to resolve themI remember this post. Back in 2018. I'm sure it'll be true now, though.>>288232906>but it cannot be a sword that radiates an energy typeI assume it could. Conjured items are always like magic items from an RPG. Welfin summons a brace of missiles that don't cause concussive force when exploding but instead bury centipedes into the target's head which grow in size if they threaten the user. I mean...
>>288197722Doesn't this also imply his ability involves punching in some way?
>>288235201>there's no point in discussing what will happen in Chapter 500 because Chapter 600 will never be released!Wow. I bet you had a class room all to yourself when you went to school.>>288240729Yes it would, just the main antagonists would be different.
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>>288241314I didn't say it didn't contain Manipulation, or that it does, I find that discussion irrelevant. I'm saying it's not primarily a Manipulation ability, for one simple reason: why the fuck would a Manipulator transmute a pen and paper instead of using real ones? That's the calling card of a Manipulator, you condition your ability on the use of real objects - a focus or implement - especially just one or two you always keep on you and you have sentimental value towards. This is why Morel uses a big ass pipe and Zakuro walks around with a blood bag and Shalnark specifically has two antennae and needs his one specific phone to use Black Voice. This is Manipulation 101. How fucking simple and logical would it be to just tie Moonlight Act to real paper and pens, especially even just one real pen. That totally makes sense. You carry your special pen with you everywhere so you can draft contracts. Yup, that's a Manipulator right there. What fucking Manipulator is transmuting household objects?A Conjurer would just conjure a magic pen and maybe a book of contracts. An Emitter would use Manipulation. A Specialist would think of a dozen different ways of creating the ability before relying on Transmutation. Only an Enhancer or Transmuter would bother transmuting a pen and paper.
Morel transmutes his smokeKnov emits his pocket dimension
>>288246046He like me
>>288246046>leorio's ability wasn't that simple though iirc, I'd get it if he copied shit like gon's ability which is braindeadBetween what ability we know Leorio has (warp punching) and the two other applications of nen Ging attributes to Leorio it's clear that Leorio's "theme" for his hatsu is sending aura through surfaces. The Warp Punch is just emitted aura that transmutes into a fist when ejecting from the ground and Tumor blasts send aura to a specific target to damage it. Nen Ultrasound pulses sends ripples of aura through a surface and provide feedback, similar to how Morel can use his smoke as a bootleg En field. So yeah, it stands to reason that Leorio's ability is simple to copy as it all boils down to a single principle and we know Ging is insanely knowledgeable and trained in aura utilization.
I like to think that Wing is exceptionally sexually active and brings home a different woman each night. There is no evidence for this.
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>>288249035>why the fuck would a Manipulator transmute a pen and paper instead of using real onesNTA but probably because she seems to implant the contract into the target after it's been signed. Furykov notices something different about Kuraipka's aura and it would track with how Kurapika is injecting the students with Bill's aura. >This is why Morel uses a big ass pipeSlight correction here. Morel can control his smoke without his pipe as evidenced when Pouf stole it and Morel still fought Youpi afterwards.
>WAAAAAAAAH, MY FRIEND DIED. NOW YOU HAVE TO FEEL BAD FOR ME EVEN THOUGH i SLAUGHTERED THE KURTA CLAN WAAAAAHHHHH
>>288249988holy cope, everyone knows that Wing molests Zushi's tight little body on a nightly basis.
>>288248629Hisoka is the one being turned into a thread mummy, her face here says it all
>>288250537togashi is going to write a shitty justification for the kurta slaughter
>>288197722>a talent
>>288249988Honestly, sounds real
>>288250725I didn't believe the words as I wrote them, because, deep down, I knew this was the truth.
>>288212162>Bad writing because one of the top 5 nen users in-verse can ape certain low-mid level punching techniques
RUBBER
How often do you think togashi actually does anything for HxH in the last decade? i feel like it's just a passion project now, but there is no way his team of editors have just been sitting around waiting for him.
>>288251893I've been told part of the splotchy releases is also because of all the assistant work that needs to be done on these batches of 10 which can create scheduling issues since HxH isn't a weekly series. I have a hard time imagining editors have had much of a say in what goes on in this arc in the past 10+ years
So let’s work some Transmutation ideas.What kind of properties would you give your nen to make it as useful and diverse as Hisoka’s?
>>288252245Machi will kill Hisoka
>>288252245Properties of a saltwater crocodile's bite force combined with the venom of an inland taipan.
>>288252245I think Biskys nen is probably more useful in general than Hisokas, at least outside of combatDo you want combat abilities or like greed island pills
>>288252245Mine is just useful to fight and restrain bad guys:>The ability to turn my aura into pollen that causes super intense allergies, and it’s also itchy powder. It is very dry and can suck the moisture out of an open mouth, or any liquid, and is inflammable.I use shape manipulation and basics of emission to project it on enemies and to not accidentally target myself.
>>288252245Platinum and octopus tentaclesUse the platinum to hit things really hard and block attacks while grabbing things with the octopus tentacles.
>>288252245I feel like making some sort of miracle elixir would be ideal. Idk if it's more of a conjuration thing thoughLike making the ultimate energy drinkTransmutation is weird cause like Zeno seems to transmute his aura into "dragon" and Feitan seems to transmute "pain" into "planets" so idk what really goes for this category
>>288190143Hunter x Hunter is so based
>>288252245Fire jets to propel my limbs, it would need to lean heavily on Enhancement to keep up with the force and to not get too burned but that's part of the restriction.
>>288190143I know this isn't really abnormal for shonen manga but I find Nen weirdly restrictive from an in-universe pov. Like say you just discovered Nen as a kid like Gon and decide your hatsu is going to be punching things really hard because you're just a dumb kid. Now you're stuck with that power forever and can't change it ever? But then if you're the kind of person like Ging or Kurapika or Chrollo that overthinks the power system and looks for loopholes you can effectively give yourself as many powers as you want by just stacking conditions on top of conditions in a way where it barely affects you.It reads like the player in a tabletop game who tries to give himself the most broken scenario-breaking powers and then tries to justify it to the DM with irrelevant conditions for why he should be broken for "lore" reasons.
>>288252751>Now you're stuck with that power forever and can't change it ever?There's nothing that says someone can't stop using a nen ability, unless I suppose they made a restriction that they have to use that ability for the rest of their life. If an enhancer decides they want to do something other than punch, then they can just stop punching, given there are no other conditions or restrictions. The only issue would be making a totally new ability from scratch.>stacking conditions on top of conditions in a way where it barely affects youThe power boost a condition gives is dependent on how much of a pain in the ass it is. A bunch of minor inconveniences or restrictions that can easily avoided isn't going to get as much power as a single big one, such as staking your life on using the ability correctly.
>>288252471>I feel like making some sort of miracle elixir would be ideal. Idk if it's more of a conjuration thing though>Like making the ultimate energy drinkBisky's hatsu is essentially that, she transmutes her aura into special rejuvenating lotion
>>288252245sharpness + rotation>become blender>other nen user's defenses are less effective because you are cutting through their aura rather than just bashing it brute force like most people to>ignore doors, take the dr doompill and walk through walls>cover an object in your aura to make it a spike trap (bonus points if you use In to make it an ivisible trap)>nen propeller for underwater propulsion>climbing things would be really easy when you can casually sink your fingers into rock and steel>knives are pretty useful
>>288252245I can give my nen the properties of cum
>>288190143People relate it King Crimson but I think tsneedriches ability is morlike a genjutsu from Naruto and likely only works within a certain radius like 40 meters
>>288212299Good vibes and nostalgia. It's not that hard to understand.
>>288252245I think I'd transmute my en to be like moving through a viscous fluid for others and perfectly normal for meThen I would just stab people with a spear or blade
>>288252245Fire that feeds on nen instead of air, it can't be put out with water or by trying to smother it with a blanket.The constrictions for it are that it can hurt myself too and that since it feeds on Nen it can be extinguished by simply using Zetsu for a couple of seconds.To start the fire the target has to be hit in melee, the flame will start spreading from the impact area of the fist, the growth of the fire scales with the aura output, so an enemy with Ren active will be on fire pretty much instantly, where as a target in their normal default state will require up to 10 seconds to be completely engulfed.There is a hidden application too to set myself on fire intentionally, this can be done at any time but comes at the risk of killing myself. However those flames are stronger and will latch onto any enemy that hits me, flames transferred like this will keep burning as long as either I or the target keep using nen, so technically I could suicide myself to make sure the target burns down as well.If an enemy knows how the ability works it's not as good since you can just shift into Zetsu to disable/prevent it, however even then it basically becomes force the enemy into Zetsu after a hit for a few seconds, which is pretty good if you can follow up to it while the target is without aura.It's best used in a surprise attack since the instinct of an enemy will be to use more aura to protect them rather than less which will quicken the growth of the flames.
>>288252245I think I will rate the presented abilitiesFor the sake of it>>288252287A number is not a property, and thusly giving something a certain amount of strength is not within the grasp of transmutation (It's a matter of Strong Nen)But assuming you meant:Crushing bite and venomDestructive power: CVenom is only useful when attacks pierce the skin, and that means your attack must defeat all nen defenses before it starts to workIt's also a little unclear what you mean by nen having the property of crushing but I'm ignoring thatYou are quite similar to that wolf guy from the shadow beasts who instantly diedUtility:E+Neither of these have a clear non combat purpose, but poison can be used in preperation and crushing can be used on objects, so I suppose there's somethingMemory space: A-I don't imagine any of this will be particularly complex to learn or remember>>288252386It isn't clear whether or not this affects currently existing allergies or creates new onesI will assume it can create new ones with some conditionsDestructive power: D+A slow acting airborne poison is an alright idea, but making it itchy immidiately alerts all of the people you are trying to covertly kill that something is happeningOnce they are looking for you it's sort of overUtility:DThe ability to remove water could be useful.Normal aura is inflamable, so I don't see that helpingMemory space: B-Pollen is a sort of elaborate thing to have to visualize>>288252432Using a metal as a standard to visualise is an alright ideaTentacles with sucker things are manipulation+Transmutation. Manipulation should be your weakest categoryBecause of this, I'll assume you just mean having your hands suck thingsDestructive potential: C+It's a more advanced type of enhancement ability really, but those can workUtility: DThe tentacle suckers might be useful for some slight of hand, but nothing would be noticabley superhuman thereMemory space: AThings you can touch
>>288252471An alright non-combat ability if done wellBecause you said energy drink I will assume there are some short term benefitsDestructive potential: E+ (B-)It's B- when working with a team or someone else who can use the boost of the energy drinkOtherwise you're just an energetic guyUtility: A-Healing wounds is very good.Restoring aura is very goodMemory space: C+Medicine is complex>>288252598Ah cool, a restrictionDestructive potential: B+Punch hardSpeed wins battlesUtility: C-It can start fires, but many things can do thatIt could hypothetically help movement as wellMemory space: B+The restriction is easy to remember and burning is something you don't forget>>288252980I am imagining something like the pip play things but with bladesDestructive potential: B+I can see this shredding any unprepared opponent, but it doesn't really defend you (Yes you could transmute everything into blades but that would take up too much focus for you to fight well)Utility: C-Cutting things can be quite useful, but knives are commonMaking traps like that would be emission (60%) but still possibleMemory space: B+Spin requires that many things move at once
>>288253024Destructive potential: EUtility: D-Memory space: S->>288253417This is meSomeone else could do itThe ability doesn't really work without something else to use in conjunction, but it's always useful and occasionally counters combat styles based on movement>>288253602I am assuming you mean instead of fuel, because if it only worked on wood it would be a quite shit abilityDestructive potential: C+Something like this can be very dangerous if used right, but is also fairly situationalYou need to be in melee range against a non-enhancer, and you need to hit them, then you get to set a shorter term and more avoidable harkoware on them that also burnsUtility: EOnly works for burning humans, or nen-creaturesMemory space: DThis isn't a normal fire, and is generally quite elaborate
>>288214294This is basically what I've though as well, particularly with the desire to be second in command even in name only. I have nothing really to base this on other than thematic vibes but I think he's an enhancer like Gon except he enhances others under his command instead of himself. Togashi's gone out of his way to note that it's rare for a man to do this.
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>>288251031Even Ponzu!
One thing I never understood is Pouf's nen ability. What was his medium to manipulate his body?
>>288255723If Anita play it smart, she could have seduce him.
>>288254459>It isn't clear whether or not this affects currently existing allergies or creates new ones>I will assume it can create new ones with some conditionsYeah, it creates an allergic reaction for everyone. It would work similarly to the dryads' pollen in Dungeon Meshi.>Destructive power: D+>A slow acting airborne poison is an alright idea, but making it itchy immidiately alerts all of the people you are trying to covertly kill that something is happening>Once they are looking for you it's sort of overThe main goal is not to kill, but to defeat opponents and more easily restrain them. And since we can create substances vastly superior to what exists in nature, the idea would be that it has an instantaneous effect (like the pollen in Dungeon Meshi) with vastly superior results in discomfortness. The ability has multiple uses to disable opponents.1) With the hay fever you can blind someone, and cut-off their sense of smell.2) With the itchyness you can force your opponents to waste energy and movements into scratching themselves. More importantly, it's a tool for breaking concentration. With the itching way above what you could find in nature, only people with an incredible amount of willpower could keep their cool.3) The dryness can lessen its weakness to being washed away. It can even dry someone's tears away and make the effects of the blindness due to hay fever last longer. More importantly, it is a tool to disable someone's mouth. If they breath the pollen, the lack of moisture will make it very hard to speak. If they breath the pollen, the dryness and itchyness will make them cough constantly. Furthering imparing their concentration, physical capabilities and possibly lead them to cough to the point that they will bleed from the throat.>Utility:D>The ability to remove water could be useful.Normal aura is inflamable, so I don't see that helpingNormal aura is flammable?Also how does your memory space rating work?
One Piece mog HxH, right?
>>288190143His nen ability is endless hiatus.
>>288257774ops art style is bad
>>288258263His power is like Kars; brain stop thinking.
What is Illumi’s real endgame? I definitely feel like he is going to legitimately try and kill hisoka, but what about after?
>>288252751>Now you're stuck with that power forever and can't change it ever?Provided you have hit your memory limit then yes, that's your only hatsu for the rest of your life. There's a good reason as far back as Wing the story was saying that rushing into making a hatsu is frowned upon and Kastro was used as an example of someone that didn't truly look inward when developing a hatsu as he was clearly trying to copy Hisoka by having a tricky technique. Wing also warned against following Kurapika's example because self imposed death is not a sane mechanism for hatsu. >ChrolloIf we compare to Leol then Chrollo's conditions seem less stuff he had to add himself as a restriction, and more to be universal traits for ability theft. This is why Zeno could deduce the number of conditions back in York Shin. Both Chrollo and Leol need to see the ability and receive information about it from the target. Both also need to establish some form of contact whether it's physical and/or verbal. Both then store the abilities inside a conjured tool and dispense the powers at their leisure. Leol gets away with lighter conditions because he borrows on an hourly basis while Chrollo has to do all that within an hour because he's stealing it permanently with the later option to return a power. It's currently the post-bookmark Chrollo that is working his way into truly gaming the system since he has added rules and is planning some kind of post-mortem effect to benefit the spiders.
>>288252245The problem with Transmutation is...look at our Transmuters.>Biscuit conjures a servant to give massages>Youpi turns his anger into an explosion>Hanzo...uh...creates an aura doppelganger?>Killua turns his aura into electricity but also for some reason needs to charge up using real electricity and it's never explained whyIf a fan created a Transmutation hatsu that looked like any of these, other fans would reject it. If a fan created Nen Strings, fans would call it a waste, "Why not conjure strings? Or carry real ones with you?" If fans created Bungie Gum, anons would say, "It can't be that strong. Surely people would just cut it. And I don't think you should be able to control it so finely from afar, either."
>>288258805>and it's never explained whyIt's a byproduct of his training since he would shock himself to help form his mental image. Arguably he should be able to remove this with more training and time.
>>288258765He's going to the Dark Continent and he's going to die saving Kalluto, intentionally or not. His JoJo parallel is Tooru and he dies when a magical fruit (re: a DC resource) is used to exchange a crossdressing origami-using boy's (re: Kalluto's) curse (re: a DC calamity) to himself.
Why doesn't he just have his wife do the art for him?
>>288249035Ah I see, I misunderstood. In that case I can't confidently agree either way, I think what you're saying makes sense, and I see the general pattern of Manipulators, but also, Togashi could just say whatever, and then we have to twist ourselves explaining that away. People used to be so confident that Knov was a conjurer, and Knuckle was an emitter, I think Togashi's version makes more sense. However, I still don't understand why Ikalgo is an Enhancer rather than a Manipulator (a better question would be, is his ability mainly Enhancement rather than Manipulation somehow?)Why is Palm an Enhancer, is her ability based solely on principals of Nen like emission, or are we saying Remote Viewing and Clairvoyance are "real" enough skills that you can Enhance them. If so, why is fortune telling Specialization and not Enhancement, is Kurapika's Dowsing Enhancement when his eyes are normal, and Specialization when red?Is Meruem's aura synthesis an example of Emission? or a natural part of his biology.
What are the odds they encounter something new on the Dark Continent that they have to fight? Netero went there but the place is fucking massive. He could easily wander for years and never find an opponent even if they were in the same rough area.
>>288258965what about the conflict between illumi and killua/alluka? i feel like illumi/kalluto are invincible until that happens.
>>288259179>(a better question would be, is his ability mainly Enhancement rather than Manipulation somehow?)Ikalgo's ability doesn't seem to have any enhancement component, at best I could see him trying to preserve the bodies he puppets but Flutter's was still decaying so he didn't include that. Some characters just don't lean into their own type while making hatsu is the simple answer. >or are we saying Remote Viewing and Clairvoyance are "real" enough skills that you can Enhance them. If so, why is fortune telling Specialization and not Enhancement, is Kurapika's Dowsing Enhancement when his eyes are normalI think there are some skills that are related can be achieved through different categories. An enhancer might be able to improve their own eyesight or add some layered sense to it, similar to how Dog man enhances his sense of smell to function like a radar. But remote viewing is emissions and lets senses be shared across distances (Palm, Musse). Fortune telling is specialization because it adds a component of time into the mix. This is why Pakunoda can see into the past of objects (Psychometry) and why Neon/Tserriednich can see into the future (Lovely writer ghost, ephemeral 10 seconds). In those three cases the information is beamed into their heads probably through emissions or some kind of vivid hallucination made through manipulation. Remember that Tserriednich's perspective comes from the beast he summoned which seems to exist behind him at all times. Kurapika's dowing chain seems to be a conjuration effect so it shouldn't change function when he's in emperor time. But if it only can show where someone is in the present than maybe an ET effect would be showing where someone was or will be in the future. Otherwise I don't think it gets a buff or alteration like Steal Chain does.
>>288259447What you said about Ikalgo is probably right, him using a category far from his own also fits in with his self image issues. >Fortune telling is specialization because it adds a component of time into the mixYeah, it's just a little frustrating that good Specialist abilities either have to be Time based, or copying/stealing/borrowing/giving powers based, or you've wasted your potential.>Kurapika's dowing chain seems to be a conjuration effect so it shouldn't change function when he's in emperor time. This is straight up false, see pic related. Kurapika's own explanation makes it sound like Enhancement, rather than just a conjured item effect. Now this could just be Kurapika's personality trying to explain everything in a rational way, but:>I think there are some skills that are related can be achieved through different categories. An enhancer might be able to improve their own eyesight or add some layered sense to it, similar to how Dog man enhances his sense of smell to function like a radar. But remote viewing is emissions and lets senses be shared across distances (Palm, Musse)The story also supports it being Enhancement.
>>288259663>Kurapika's own explanation makes it sound like Enhancement, rather than just a conjured item effeI forgot about his usage of Dowsing chain as a lie detector because I'm a retard apparently. I was thinking about the one time he used it to search a map which should preclude any enhanced perception. So yeah, when he's using it on another person, the sharper his senses, the better his read on them should be so ET does provide a boost. So it is probably enhancement + conjuration for lie-detection.
>>288252245I think a support-based ability related to processing ingredients and/or cooking would be interesting to see. Setting a condition where the quality of the ability is directly proportional to the time and effort put in by the chef could help get around Transmutation’s biggest flaw, its limited effective range. With that concept as a foundation, the sky’s the limit:>Salt-based aura for absurdly long preservation of meats>Airy, enriched aura for bringing out the maximum flavor and nutritional value of fermentation in bread or liquor>Mesh patterned aura that can filter out impuritiesIf it wasn’t clear already, I’m fairly certain that this is close to what the chef in Beyond’s team will do. Something that balances quality flavor, space, and nutritional value would be essential in a place like the Dark Continent.
>>288258805>If a fan created a Transmutation hatsu that looked like any of these, other fans would reject it. If a fan created Nen Strings, fans would call it a waste, "Why not conjure strings? Or carry real ones with you?" If fans created Bungie Gum, anons would say, "It can't be that strong. Surely people would just cut it. And I don't think you should be able to control it so finely from afar, either."That's actually a great point, you see it even with anons responses to the transmutation hatsu creations.
>>288259179>Why is Palm an Enhancer, is her ability based solely on principals of Nen like emission, or are we saying Remote Viewing and Clairvoyance are "real" enough skills that you can Enhance them.The most sensible argument I have seen is that she enhances crystal ball to be able to see people.
>>288252980This is a hatsu I thought about realizing with transmutation as well. Probably my favorite devil fruit ability from OP was Daz Bone's Dice-Dice fruit. And instead of doing funky conjuration stuff I thought shaping aura would be ideal, versatile, and lethal.
>>288210173This utter fool doesn't learn nen or simply use machine guns?
Is foresight an overrated superpower in fiction? Most of the time it’s simply seeing as many probable futures as possible but that’s as good as seeing none unless you know which is the most likely to happen. Plus, seeing the future isn’t great if you can’t change it or dodge what will happen
>>288260257How would a Naruto character master Nen power?
>>288252245transmutation and conjuration are the same fucking thing.
>>288258853>>288258805He could do it without but then the ability would be weaker.It's the restriction he has on it, which is in line with what we know about nen.Same with Gons long wind-up for his Jajanken, he could just punch immediately but then it would just be barely more than a regular attack.
>>288258805Killua just gives his aura the ability to store and conduct electricity, which is why he has to charge it
>>288260252>The most sensible argument I have seen is that she enhances crystal ball to be able to see people.How is that more sensible than remote viewing which is an actual phenomenon that the CIA researched, confirmed it existed, but abandoned because it had no tactical use?
>>288260652>He could do it without but then the ability would be weaker.Killua says on Greed Island that it just takes more time to charge up on his own. I still think this is a byproduct of him being new to nen so he should be able to speed up his latent charging time with training. Otherwise he just shocks himself to get a faster charge rate within seconds. Gon also is fresh at nen since someone like Uvo can launch a more devastating Ko attack without any windup at all. But if we use Phinks as a comparison point, some enhancers are forced to take a windup time for their abilities to maximize damage output so Gon might have shot himself in the foot with Ja-Janken.
>>288259179>>288259447>>288259663>>288259761The thing about the official nen typings is, that even though someone could be a certain type, that doesn't mean their ability is as well.For example Kastro would be put in as an enhancer, but as we know he used multiple non-enhancer types to create his double.The same can be true about other characters, using multiple other types either without their natural type or in combination.So Knovs mansion can still be conjured even though he is an emitter and Neteros Guanyin can be emission and/or manipulation even though he is an enhancer.
>>288259043>>288256784Can imagine that
why the fuck is it translated as blacklist hunter instead of bounty hunter?
>>288252751You can probably just make a new ability and stop using your old one
>>288260542It's because foresight is so strong that it always has to be hampered with "...but its cryptic, or inaccurate" or "you can't change the future" In stories like Dune, the people who can see and guide the future control everything, and the main characters precognition is so much stronger, broader, and more detailed than theirs that he can single-handedly fight a war of conquest against the entire galaxy. In Worm, there is a power which allows its user to see billions of potential futures, and she can group them in chances of a possible future event, rendering the information down into a simple, but fairly robust "Chances that *this event* happens, or Chances that *this happens* if I do *this* The unrestricted version of that power allows the user to see and execute perfectly the series of steps needed to succeed at any given task, even if it has a negligible chance of success, as long as it is possible, the user will absolutely succeed. It's only weaknesses are arbitrary in-built 'Blind Spots', or the physical limitations of the user.
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>>288260751Everyone already understands that, what I'm talking about is what category a given ability belongs to. Everyone knows you need specialist to create any kind of time based ability (fortune telling, psychometry, precognition). But Kurapika's Dowsing, Dogman's nose, and Palm's Clairvoyance are up for debate. Since the latter two are enhancement, I'm wondering if Kurapika's own assessment of how his power works is true. If so, how can Kurapika's Dowsing chain be so powerful even before he turns Emperor Time on. I'm also wondering how much more powerful it could get if it was made by an Enhancer. OR if Kurapika's dowsing chain is only based in Conjuration's special abilities given to objects, and Kurapika's own assesment is completely off the mark, then I'm just confused as to why Conjurer's are recommended not to make things like "A sword" if your dowsing chain, can basically mimic enhancement without having to be proficient in it. Why NOT make a sword that is supernaturally sharp. I'm not saying can cut through anything but why is it even COMPARED to buying a regular sword and Enhancing it?Basically, either Dowsing Chain requires Enhancement, and its bullshit that it can be so strong at 40% efficiency before Emperor Time is involved. Or it doesn't require Enhancement, Conjured objects can just do stuff like that, in which case Conjuring a sword that's as supernaturally sharp as a masterfully Enhanced sword should be on the table.
>>288261338>Since the latter two are enhancementdifferent anon but quoted in that post. I still think Palm's clairvoyance uses emissions through a physical medium (a blood-fed mermaid statue or a gem embedded in her skull which would also receive blood) so I don't think there's a single moment of enhancement for her outside of reinforcing her hair armor post-ant transfiguration. >Basically, either Dowsing Chain requires Enhancement, and its bullshit that it can be so strong at 40% efficiency before Emperor Time is involved.I would assume his ability to track people on a map comes from pure conjuration. But the proficiency he can read people for lie detecting comes from enhancing the conjured effect via his own senses which is enhancement. Nobunaga using some counterfeit sword after his original is broken thanks to post-Telleberum is proof that Enhancers should need a genuine article to demonstrate maximum effect. Kurapika circumvents this since his chain jail leverages his own life to strengthen it against the spiders and Nobunaga isn't that suicidal.
>>288261067yyh art is better than hxh
>>288261466Clairvoyance and tracking seem to be really "cheap" abilities that don't require much nen prowess or investment to use since we've already seen multiple characters with the ability.
>>288190143I don’t read HxH but how the fuck have the powers of the MC’S FATHER not been revealed yet?
>>288261636Better series than HxH
>>288261788This is the same manga series where it's been on hiatus more often than not. It also took like 10 years of chapter releases for Gon to finally meet his dad and they have one short conversation before parting ways.
>>288257301>Also how does your memory space rating work?VibesYour points on the destructive power are very reasonable, I'll mentally move it up to C+ as a debuff ability
>>288261788>>288261852someone pull out the hiatus chart, I can't find it in my files.
>>288261809hxh has no deadline. yyh did. maybe if yyh had a hiatus, i could agree. plus, hxh characters have more flavor to them.
>>288262246> hxh characters have more flavor to them.I respectfully disagree.
>>288260552nuh-uhConjuration creates physical objects while transmutation just changes the property of one's nen. Someone without nen would be able to see and interact with a conjured object, but would have no idea what was happening if they came in contact with transmuted nen. Conjured objects also cannot be "overly supernatural" or physically impossible, while transmuted nen can, such as Bungee Gum which has the contradictory properties of both rubber and gum.
>>288197975God i miss pansy gum and subtle lie
>>288262445>Conjured objects also cannot be "overly supernatural" I hate this fucking line so much. What does it even mean? A Vacuum that has infinite storage space is "not overly supernatural"? Kite Made a Sentient Object, A scythe that cuts from a distance, with an edge so sharp it took out Chimera ants that could tank bullets. Fun Fun Cloth can shrink people AND objects, Indoor fish can leave you alive and aware with most of your brain missing. Kurapika can determine a persons location on a map with nothing but a chain and NO SPECIALIZATION, he can also determine truths from lies from people that are TRAINED TO BEAT LIE DETECTORS."Not overly supernatural" is a misnomer. >>288229850This anon is probably right.
>>288262445Rubber and gum are objects though. Biscuit's also a fucking masseuse, a person. Does her nen have the properties of massages?
the hisoka vs chrollo fight caused irreparable mental damage on this board. it never recovered and never will. the burgeoning gen alpha posters from tiktok are all downstream of the trauma.
>>288262863>Rubber and gum are objects thoughYes, but they are objects with physical *properties*, and Hisoka transmutes his nen to have those properties - i.e, the ability to stick to stuff, and the ability to stretch without breaking - he doesn't literally make it into a rubber-gum mixture. The physical properties of an object are distinct things from an object itself, when something is brittle we might say it's 'like glass' but we don't call every brittle object glass.>Biscuit's also a fucking masseuse, a person. Does her nen have the properties of massages?Cookie is conjured nen beast separate from her transmutation ability, which simply applies her transmuted nen via massage. Her actual transmutation ability turns gives her nen the property of a rejuvenating lotion. This can be seen during the Chimera Ant training arc where Gon and Killua prepare to face off again Knuckle and Shoot.
I think Kurapika is a very cute girl!
>>288263082Can see the resemblance kek
>>288223651colored manga is equivalent to pixel art smoothing filters in emulators. it's no wonder you only see jojo fans post this type of thing.
Colored manga = colored people
>>288262844It's one of those lines that some fans love to focus on. Imagine if some fans were to continue reading past this point where they gave you the "but" that followed up that statement.
>>288252245Hatsu that transmutes nen into sticky balloons/bubbles which the user can control the buoyancy of. The most straightforward application would be for the user to sit on these bubbles to float across water or in the air, but they can also attach the bubbles to other things, where they can make said thing float high into the sky, or give the bubbles negative buoyancy to act as weights and immobilize whatever they are attached to (think like Echos Act 3 in Jojo). They could also do things like drop heavy bubbles from the sky as an attack.Since attaching or dropping bubbles detaches the nen from the body, all those abilities would be affected by emission, of which transmuters only have 60% proficiency in, so the buoyancy and negative buoyancy effect are greatly reduced the further the bubble goes away from the user.The user of this nen would probably "fight dirty" a lot of the times by setting up traps and using their height advantage, and just fly away when things don't go their way, which kinda fits with a transmuter's personality.
>>288262431how so
Pitou sex
>>288261788He's been in like 15 chapters
What if Kurapika killed Neon to prevent Chrollo from using her ability again?Just a crackpot theory I thought about but dismissed.
>>288206857>>288207092Tserriednich is being set up as the penultimate antagonist for the arc and if there is going to be only one prince left I suspect it's going to come up to him or the baby. Although I can see other princes surviving and I suspect the king will die at some point (likely at Tserriednich's hands) which may indirectly allow some of the other princes to survive.
>>288264630Light Nostrade killed her in a rage after the family went bankrupt without her fortunes. She took her own life out of despair, or Hisoka assassinated her to rob Chrollo of the ability, It’s most likely the last one.
>>288261338Conjuring a sharp sword is on the table, Izunavi just called it a waste since you can Enhance a real sword. You can't Enhance a vacuum cleaner to give it selective target or a pocket dimension in its bag. That's what Izunavi meant: make an ability that isn't something you could just buy.>>288261636>>288261809YYH is terribly overrated. It's okay. The only thing about it better than HxH was its art. There was grit to it HxH only maybe had pre-GI.
>>288232545How does that middle aged fatass manage to take the hunter exam every year and get decently far but still remain fat. Is he the Sam Tarly of Hunter x Hunter?
>>288264529>neko>male
>>288264859>Is he the Sam Tarly of Hunter x HunterSo who Stannis the Mannis of HxH?
>>288261636>>288261636YYH has that young mangaka spunk for the first few years but you can see the burnout accruing as the series goes on
>>288263082
>>288264630People have speculated that before. It doesn't really seem like something he would to do me but Kurapika is supposed to be the whole "corrupted by revenge" trope. I find it weird how he was able to become boss of the mob so easily, Neon could've been next in line even if she was a teenage girl, so maybe Pika also killed her to secure his place as boss.
>>288264529I've been looking at Hitoner threads and chapters just to satiate Pitou lust
>>288264917Pitou is a girl. I know this to be true because she has a vagina in that one doujin
>>288265132I'm bummed out that Botan and Shizuru didn't get any power-ups.
>>288265299>bummed out that female characters in a battle shonen manga aren't stronger>a shonen manga>SHONEN....let me guess your a woman...
>>288265769Fujo want man pairing, I want strong waifu.
>>288223651based
>>288224915This
Is Killua the most powerful hunter now? At least within the "known world." He has infinite access to Nanika. Maybe we meet someone similar in Dark Continent, or perhaps Gyro is connected to something like this.
>>288240097>mfw anon starts out doing basic energy work>because of a chinese comic made for childrenThe path to the great work of the magus truly is unfathomable
>>288266087Is Togashi initiated?
>>288253142Kind Crimson already pretty much works like a genjutsu too. Effectually it doesn't actually erase time, it only fucks with people's perception of it (except for the one time it did something completely different).
>>288265946Eh?https://youtu.be/_eM8453z7bM?t=229&si=Wz1WI5z4WxuRs_oa
>>288266123He obviously has a basic superficial curiosity towards esoteric subjects that has fueled his inspiration as an artist, but nothing points towards an initiation to any one tradition. Then again you do not realize when you have already taken a step onto the path which is how self-initiations begin and the archetypical journey trough the steps start taking place, but that would be just schizo occultist speculation. I gather he thinks exoteric symbols look cool and energy would be fricking awesome.
>Sestern fans STILL think Pitou is a manWhy won't this ever die?
>>288266087>>288266123you know your new age slop is stolen from chink mythology right
>>288266339>basic energy training is now new age slop>but its also apparently thousands of years old daoist techniquesYou must feel real knowledgeable right now. I'd assume less in the future.
GGs. That Dural was pretty insane especially the ring out tech. The force explosion to ring out was really funny lol. Good stuff.
>>288265092>Strong sense of justice leading them down a doomed pathKurapika or Halkenburg.
>>288262010Thank you nen master
What the fuck happened with the chapters?
>>288266565
>>288265250Nice Pitou clone, would (indeed) mating press her.
>>288266565WSJ is probably waiting for some other manga to end or go on a long haitus to free up a slot, or maybe they want Togashi give them 20 chapters this time
could a nen ability recover neon's ability? maybe her father paid someone to recover it.
>>288190368FPBP. Series ended on top of the tree
HxH is not over, and Togashi is still green. We have yet to "arrive" at the Dark Continent.
>>288266599>her
>>288265273If you into kind of stuff
>>288266694Nen can do anything with enough conditions or if the user is special enough
I remember once proposing a hatsu that turns nen into gashttps://desuarchive.org/a/thread/282853695/#q282874070Basically knockout gas, lighter than air and inflammable
>>288223651owned kek
>>288259447Friendly reminder its been 8 years since we got hyped about Theta and Tserriednich yet nothing else has happened with them
>>288265769>Get top 3 in-verse foid at the end of the series>Doesn't really ever get to do anything
Morena
>>288266694I wouldnt be surprised if Chrollos ability left some kind of "trace" or "calling card" on a target. I bet a Nen Exorcist could leverage that to restore her ability.
>>288266880>>288266902Pitou is a girl though
>>288266694No, the ability is transferred to Chrollo's book by the hand of the victim touching the handprint on Skill Hunter. Chrollo would either need to rip out the page, or a Nen exorcist would have to target the book itself.
>>288268170But how exactly can there be an ongoing effect on someone without any nen on them?And how can the book tell when they've died if it doesn't interact with the former user?Nen abilities are skills, they don't operate on video game logic
>>288267761I don't follow anime filler.
>>288252257Likely
>>288197942I dunno, some abilities are pretty basic and probably easy to copy for experts, like Gon's. Minus some potency of course.
>>288262639>Senritsu>Kuroro>Genei Ryodan>Phantom Brigade>Kurapica>Zaoldyeck>Reinforcement>Transformation>Materialization>Yorkshin>Celestial Tower>>288262863>Does her nen have the properties of massages?That's not so outlandish. Hisoka was able to make Bungee Gum by chewing gum. Killua was able to turn his aura into electricity thanks to his assassin training immunizing him to electricity. Their abilities relate to sensations they have an extreme familiarity with. Sadaso's phantom arm probably literally comes from him longing for his missing arm. So Biscuit's Piano Massage might use transmuted aura to replicate the sensation of getting the greatest massage Biscuit's ever been given. Feitan and Youpi's abilities are also fueled by feelings/sensations. I feel like it's a Transmuter thing.
>>288268249The book still uses the original user as medium, shown by the abilities still having the same mental restrictions as the OG users do. The only exception are nen after death, which presumably uses their undead spirit as a medium.
>>288268249The part of their soul that the ability was engraved on is Stolen, it isn't an ongoing effect, it is physically separated and taken thanks to the number of restrictions Chrollo has to follow. When they die, excluding post-mortem Nen, their life force fades from this world, including the portion in the book. Also Nen abilities totally operate on video game logic. Pic related.
>>288269192What level 50, 75, 80, 100, 120?
>>288268249chrollo is a specialist. Specialists abilities are defined by the fact that they break the rules of nen that apply to the users in other categories. How the hell does the 4th prince's ability to change the future activate when he uses zetsu???? all his nen is shut off, thats impossible. How can he use hatsu once he completely shuts off his aura? The answer is that hes a specialist. In the case of chrollo, his specialist ability is that he steals the ability itself. Once he takes it, the nen user is left unable to use it at all, even tho they can still use nen and remember how to do it. The power itself is simply gone. I dont think its something a exorcist can reverse. The only way to get a hatsu back is likely chrollo himself taking it out the book. Maybe by ripping the page like the other anon said. I dont think chrollo would take shalnarks or kortopis power if it was permanent
>>288269422Chrollo probably Kakin bastards that never made into mystery "meat"
clownbros, what is our character’s destiny?
>>288269422maybe someone with a lawyer esque ability that can undo the fact that chrollo coerces the victim into a contract of sorts
why would a girl be named crapika
>>288264859He obviously has a stealth build where he's jacked as hell.
>>288240097>>288266087can someone that browses /x/ translate this for me?
How can Leorio conjure/transmute remote FISTS if he only has 40%/60% affinity with Conjuration/Transmutation? Is it because he MASTURBATES a lot?
>>288269422>How the hell does the 4th prince's ability to change the future activate when he uses zetsu????someone earlier in the thread brought it up earlier in the thread >>288259447 it looks like he has the POV of the beast he summoned.
>>288271733emissionists create a portal that their fists can go through.
>>288271733It's because the conjuring is the easy part
>>288269422>How the hell does the 4th prince's ability to change the future activate when he uses zetsu???? all his nen is shut off, thats impossible. How can he use hatsu once he completely shuts off his aura? The answer is that hes a specialist.You do realize we have multiple examples of abilities that still work if the user is in Zetsu right? Once an ability is activates, depending on the specs, it will persist even if the user is in Zetsu. Emitted and conjured entities fall under this which coincides with Tserriednich having a 2nd nen beast responsible for his future sight as seen >>288259447An earlier example was when Cheetu got tagged with APR and Knuckles used zetsu to hide but the doll persisted. Since Kurapika was able to steal Sayird's ability before he activated emperor time. Exorcism probably works on a similar principle to ability theft since someone's power can be taken without any evidence of aura being left behind. So this isn't even a specialist exclusive trait it's another property nen can have which is not explored or explained as of yet.
>>288271589Nen is quite similar to a number of real life energy manipulation traditions, like Qi Gong or Psi research in the west. Togashi also puts a number of "conspiracies" into his world, (like the world extending past Antarctica into the "Dark Continent") as well as references to astrology, (if you check the main characters natal charts they are actually quite accurate) which is not surprising considering his wife is Naoko Takeuchi. I will admit that reading Hunter x Hunter made me attempt meditation and exercise to see if aura was real, but I was either not dedicated enough/didn't have the talent, or I'm just retarded for thinking anything "overtly supernatural" could exist in this world (which isn't that ironic since I was complaining about the phrase earlier.)
>>288267508still dont know how she got so strong.
>>288271815>like the world extending past Antarctica into the "Dark Continent"Pretty sure Australia-Hungary is the dark continent
>>288271955You underestimate the power of seething
Pitou is a girl (female) and she's top 3 though
>>288271733Teleportation is emission, and is the hard part. Conjuring giant spaces is easy as long as they don't have special properties. See: Knov conjuring a 3-story building despite not being a conjurer.
>>288266123>Project Monarch in YuYu>World is more than what's shown on the map in HxHI always assumed he was, or he really likes conspiracies.
>>288262844Probably just means shit that doesn't exist, since conjurers need to have a bond with the object they're trying to conjure. And then there's his line about how it can't have a perfect function, just a really strong one, because that's more a general rule of nen. >>288225374>Conjuration works better as a support ability.Yeah it's like how Netero used conjuration for his statue, so really it comes down to conjurers sticking more abilities onto what they can form. This can be great for mind games, like Kurapika pretending to use actual chains, and not nen chains. People will instinctively view the object by its function, while a conjurer can make it do unexpected things, like how Kurapika uses his chain to heal himself.
>>288271955royal blood
>>288272547>See: Knov conjuring a 3-story building despite not being a conjurer.he also has like 2 conditions to be able to conjure those spaces.1. it has to be on a surface for him to write with nen2. it's not an instantaneous ability, and it instead takes a couple of seconds to finish the conjuration.
Three Kings in YYH could've been kino if Togashi was allowed to follow through on his vision instead of turning it into another shounen martial arts tournament. Especially since someone as knuckleheaded as Yusuke would have to use his brain for once instead of just punching or spirit gunning whatever was in front of him.The Succession War definitely has a lot more depth than whatever Togashi had planned for the Three Kings arc, but I think it suffers from scale. I just can't find it in me to care about that many characters and the actual succession contest itself is probably the least interesting part of the arc for me.
>>288272875>I just can't find it in me to care about that many charactersI agree with you, however I think he could have done a better job by introducing some of the princes long before the arc ever started as a way to prime the audiences so they wouldn't be hit with information overload. This is something that Oda does really well.
>>288271955Her original nen ability is based around gambling, with any of the 21 players involved being able to usurp the very identity of who morena is as well as all of the rules when they get 100 points in the funny made-up game.
i hope my nigga bill livesdude is a fucking leaf in a storm right now
>>288263260The reason is primarily the lack of competent black and white Jojo scanlations, but this is only really a pre-part 7 problem
>>288272875In respect to Succession, that may be part of the tension, we've got all these characters we still don't know too much about that could do something wild. Like who'd have guessed Welfin would be the one to help Meruem remember Komugi? This also creates a degree of danger for the people we do care about, but I'd guess a lot of the people onboard are also going to be utilized more for dark continent, like Ging and Beyond, they just have supporting roles to play right now. Also WN is that you, I could've swore we talked about Three Kings in this exact way>>288267508Borkson could be her Hiei, although because they've got a yuri thing going on, it'll probably be bittersweet.
When are they going to see them kiss?
hunter x hunter will only be considered better when it has a scene like this.
>>288275230Only if it happens to Bisky.
>>288223651Yeah I dont' know what that retard was talking about, Jojo got great colored manga.
How to deal with the fact that Nen was clearly an afterthought that Togashi only came up with after the Hunter Exam arc, which undermines all the characters and battles that took place before its introduction?
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>>288275230The opportunity for Gon&Killua getting spanked at the Bitch Tickle hotel was there
>>288275596by realizing some kind of power system was always planned since its a new WSJ manga made by the (You)(You)Hockeyshow guy
>>288266087I unironically received information that was explained to me using nen terms, cause that was what I would understand.>>288266123I wouldn't say so, but he has a liking for conspiracies of the sorts as others said, and yes nen basics are similar in a way to energy work basics.
>>288206857So this dude is just going to die from aids without ever using his abilities? Bravo Togashi
>>288276399We'll probably see him launch attacks at terror sandwich and Zhang Lei in the following batch of chapters.
>>288251042what if he wrote they were evil?
>>288251042>>288276463Yomi no tsugai has a plot like this
>>288206857We've been given some ways the whole thing could stop sustaining itself and it seems reasonable something is going to go wrong given all of the unexpected variables in the ship (morena, the spider etc.) unless nasubi is another 2deep4u mastermind and has the whole thing figured out. On the other hand, we know beyond is in on it, and there's no way he's allowing the whole thing to just collapse even from inside his prison cell. It would be awesome to explore both sides but with so little chapters it becomes disheartening, hopefully this batch gives us something to think about
>>288262925kuroro cheated
>>288266123aren't all the aura stuff from buddhist teachings?all eastern religions are built upon summoning demons.
>>288271733didn't he just send a nen punch?
>>288275596Togashi was already making the framework for nen abilities during the Chapter Black of YYH.
>>288272736wasn't the real moerena killed and this one is an imposter?
>>288190143What if he's an enhancer and his ability is to rapidly enhance someone's digestive system, giving them the worst case of explosive diarrhea ever mid battle? That would be pretty OP, how do you even fight while shitting your guts out.
Okay faggots, where the fuck are the chapters? You fucking told me we'd have new chapters starting in April or something
>>288278434soon
>>288253417So similar to the Falling Blossom technique from JJK, but with a wider range proportional to your en radius.
>>288278532>>288279085Cream the Biscuit!
>>288279171don't mind if I do!
sex with little boys.
