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>acute subdermal hematoma
>A subdural hematoma is a type of bleeding near your brain that can happen after a *severe head injury* (Cleveland Clinic)
>death due to acute subdural hematoma (ASDH) can be prevented in near all cases with immediate treatment after the injury (National Institute for Health)

The timeline to Akira Toriyama is very, very odd. He dies March 1st a disease that can only come from being struck with immense strength in the head. No one rushed him to the hospital, no one spoke about it in public, he just vanished.

His death was reported in March 8th, it wasn't even his family who made it public, it was Bird Studio production team. His family kept maximum secrecy before and after his violent death. There were no interviews, no clarifications offered to law enforcement, no vigils of fans allowed, they no clarifications on his last days. Nothing, nada.

It seems quite obvious that Toriyama was in a physical altercation, he got very hurt, they let him die a VERY preventable death, then played it all out like nothing happened. Then the family began avoiding the question and not allowing reporters or police, and we all bought it because Japan is terrible at this.

Toriyama was murdered, and one day we'll realize this. Who struck him in the head? If it was an accident, why didn't the family take him to the hospital? What was going on? What is the timeline? Why is everything so obscure two years after?
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>>288250266
It was the Kenshin Mangaka

He also was behind the death of the YGO mangaka and will eventually murder Oda as well.

Fapping to real lolis was the only thing keeping his murderous split personality in check.
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Shill your social media clickbait elsewhere, "Wardedgg"
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*If* what you said is true and the cause of death really was a subdural hematome or, in simple terms basically, a head injury and its consequences, then yeah, it is's very weird the fact that his death was caused by that and as far as we know he wasn't rushed to the hospital...hmm...it's a suspicious or weird death...again, assuming that what you said is true.
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/a/ killed Toriyama
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Do you guys think he’s in heaven
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>>288250266
Yes
By me
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He could have easily just bumped his head hard or fell down and decided it was no big deal until it was too late. Im sure the force required to trigger it in an elderly person is significantly lower.
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>>288250266
They fucking killed him to take complete control of Dragon Ball.
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>>288250350
When someone wordly famous and rich like this dies in America, the family opens the house, makes public declarations, organizes vigils and grief events so they can lament the tragedy and honor the memory and work of their passed family member.

UNLESS, UNLESS

The person that died was killed by one of them, either on purpose or due to abhorrent neglect.

I have no idea why the japanese public didn't bother to google acute subdural hematoma (ASDH). It is the type of injury you get if you are hit with a hammer in your head, or has your head bashed against a wall, or pummeled with great strength.

https://abc7news.com/post/akira-toriyama-dragon-ball-creator-cause-of-death/14502972/

Above is an example of news, calling Toriyama's cause of death a "brain condition". No, it is not a brain condition, it is a trauma. He was struck in the head.

Who did it? Why? Why no one helped?
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>>288250427
This. Maybe it was too embarrasing for the family to declare it an accident, maybe it was a stupid accident (or perhaps a grave or messy accident) and they decided to let him have some dignity in death while hiding the truth
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>>288250266
As far as I'm aware the medication he was on made it easier for it to happen.
>>288250346
>YGO mangaka
This one however is the actually suspicious one. Experienced diver in full gear at an odd hour dying in shallow waters, no investigation, immediate unverified claims he died saving a guy or a puppy to justify what happened. He was probably offed by the yakuza.
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>>288250451
This is a good post. It's just speculation but it really is possible that Akira Toriyama's death was negligence or murder. And yeah, we are talking about Akira Freaking Toriyama, he was someone wordly famous, probably the most famous mangaka ever.
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He probably suffered a fall and hit his head. If he were American, I would think it's suspicious, but Japanese are often very cagey about the circumstances of their family members' deaths, especially if there could be anything even remotely, slightly embarrassing about it. An old person falling isn't really any kind of serious embarrassment, but it's nonetheless an accident and they may have chosen only to refer to the proximate cause of death rather than the ultimate cause or sequence of events leading to it.
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>>288250346
>Fapping to real lolis was the only thing keeping his murderous split personality in check.

Yeah, every guy needs post-nut clarity.
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>>288250603
>He was probably offed by the yakuza.
The Yakuza?
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>>288250266
>be old man
>fall and strike head
>children want you to go to the hospital
>tell those young fucking whippersnappers you're fine and you aren't going to any hospital
>die
This scenario is equally plausible
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>>288250427
68 doesn't really count as elderly.
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>>288250447
Toriyama's last ideas were controversial to say the less but after his death, the Dragon Ball franchise is running in circles like a headless chicken.
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>>288250266
Toriyama had a brain surgery a while before his death, so it wasn’t completely random.
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He cha-la'd his head cha-la?
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>>288251223
>but after his death
More like ever since BoG. It's been nothing but rehashing and remixing old ideas and nostalgiaclapping and cheap pandering.
After seeing how Daima turned out, Toriyama sure as fucking hell was not gonna "save" the franchise. Besides, he'd been mostly supervising everything ever since BoG so he's just as guilty as everyone else handling it.
This has been a zombie franchise for at least a decade now.
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>>288250266
>It seems quite obvious that Toriyama was in a physical altercation
The martial arts superpowers in his manga were real, and he obviously died defending the Earth from Furiija after attaining the Hyper Human 3 form. Emperor Fluffy, the Cat Emperor, covered it up by using the Drake Orbs to make all of us forget the battle.
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>>288251357
That's true but in the very least, it was doing new things disguised as rehashed. Now it's openly a rehash. They're going to adapt BoG for a third time next year
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>>288251357
It's also possible Toriyama would've started doing even worse retcons. Just look at fucking Bardock.
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>>288250451
>in America
Nobody cares about your thirdie shithole and what they do.
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>>288250266
He's an old man on blood thinners. He trips, hits his head, never wakes up. It's one of the top killers of otherwise healthy old people.

>[subdural hematomas] are also commonly seen in the elderly ... Cerebral atrophy increases the length the bridging veins have to traverse between the two meningeal layers, thus increasing the likelihood of shearing forces causing a tear. It is also more common in patients on anticoagulants or antiplatelet medications, such as warfarin and aspirin, respectively. People on these medications can have a subdural hematoma after a relatively minor traumatic event.
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>>288251357
>rehashing and remixing old ideas and nostalgiaclapping and cheap pandering.
Why break the habit of a lifetime?
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>>288250603
I am shocked at how Japan never investigates strange circumstances. Takahashi was drowned, Toriyama was bashed in the head then neglected.
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>>288251186
This situation is, in fact, orders of magnitude more plausible than murder.
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>>288251860
Did you not read Death Note? Anyone who investigates weird deaths likewise ends up dead of a 'heart attack' or 'suicide'
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>>288251357
>>288251814
It's kind of absurd people think jump artists aren't all in on rehashing old manga and comic ideas. You know how many devilman clones we get? Astro Boy and cyborg 009 references are still everywhere. Even artists before Toriyama were doing it.
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>>288250375
Yes. In kotatsu, smoking like chimney and assembling scale models of cars and such.
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>>288252037
I thoght I had an original idea for a hero as a kid but then I found out hears later that it's almost a carbon copy of the first "manga hero", Prince of Gamma, which inspired Astro Boy.
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>>288251875
>>288251186
I am not convinced.

Still, if this happened in America, there'd be an investigation by the FBI to make sure that it was not murder or neglect.

Honestly, even if it was neglect, I find it improbable that someone would not have been indicted over it and have to answer for neglect / manslaughter at a court.

But Japan doesn't seem to care if you break the law.
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>>288251213
At 68 if you hit your head you can easily die hours later.
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>>288252116
the FBI aren't allowed to investigate murders done by the CIA.
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>>288252116
>Still, if this happened in America, there'd be an investigation by the FBI to make sure that it was not murder or neglect.
You have no idea the extent to which this was investigated in Japan, because Japan actually values and respects people's fucking privacy and doesn't treat information on dead celebrities as a commodity to be peddled to fucking tabloids. Toriyama was a famously private person and his family very obviously feel the same way. Not everything is a conspiracy, you stupid motherfucker.
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>>288250266
Toriyama spent the last year of his life getting his affairs in order and setting things up to transfer his IP rights to Capsule Corp
He knew he was going to die
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>>288252149
Look, I am just saying that if this happened in the USA, a federal investigation would be conducted because even if it was a dumb situation, nothing can be taken off the table.

Also, Japan is stupidly indifferent to the victims. In America, a high profile death as of Akira Toriyama would be the entire newscycle. No way the possibility of murder wouldn't compel a federal investigation, all the family sent to answer questions of how they just 'let' the world's #1 mangaka die (probably so they can inherit all his money).
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>>288250266
From what i heard those kind of hemorrhages are super painful, the worse headache ever. This is just assumptions from his circumstances from what's is widely known and can be inferred from the life style of a mangaka; the guy smoked a lot, he wasn't athletic and if he had a healthy life style is just wishful thinking. Means that also due very high blood pressure a subdural hematoma could happen.
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>>288252159
>because Japan actually values and respects people's fucking privacy and doesn't treat information on dead celebrities as a commodity to be peddled to fucking tabloids

This doesn't help them.

People love to make fun of the stadium memorials americans make for their dead, but if someone dies of a brain trauma that only happens when they suffer a very strong strike to the head, people need to start asking questions.

I bet Japan didn't even investigate it, they respected the privacy of Toriyama's children to kill their father and take all his work.
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>>288252170
>if this happened in the USA, a federal investigation would be conducted because even if it was a dumb situation, nothing can be taken off the table
It would not
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I am a massive fan of Toriyama's work and I feel like I never got resolution from his death. Too much is not explained. I can't find a single interview of his family. No police declarations. No clarifications on how exactly he was hit.

Someone needs to make a viral tweet demanding that Japan investigates this.
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>>288252215
Why do you think reading a bunch of comics makes you entitled to know intimate details about the private life and death of someone you've never met? Your feelings end where his family's rights begin.
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>>288252195
You're legitimately a crazy person.
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y'all newfags posting in a troll thread
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>>288252170
>No way the possibility of murder wouldn't compel a federal investigation
The vast majority of celebrity deaths in America are not federally investigated. You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Furthermore: you're owed nothing. Toriyama sought privacy his entire life, and now you're demanding that privacy be forsaken after his death? That his family be dragged into the spotlight and forced to contend with baseless accusations of murder because you happen to like his manga? And you have the fucking audacity to call yourself a fan? You're not a fan. You're obsessed. And you're unhinged. Everything about you and the demands you're making is despicable.

Seek help. You might find it somewhere between the barrel of a .45 and the roof of your mouth.
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>>288251338
carlos posters deserve the rope, half the time youre barely even trying
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dbs spic killed him
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>>288250266
It was, of course, Torishima.
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>>288252195
Wow, what a cinematic shot of a woman in triumph over... her husband being brutally murdered on live television??
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>>288252654
If it weren't from behind you'd see the beaming smile on her face as she delights in the fact that the grift is gonna keep on printing money.
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>>288250266
It has been two years?!
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>>288250266
japanese doctors are notorious for useful hypocrisy "diagnoses". like when you have stage 4 stomach cancer they'll tell you you've got an ulcer
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>>288251445
Specifically, bathroom slips are quite common. I know someone who died that way.
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>>288253199
meant for him>>288251471
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>>288252096
The Cobra manga was manga by buichi terasawa was him plainly tributing flash gordon, barbarella, star wars, james bond, and a bunch of other sci-fi stuff. Then you had Hokuto no Ken by Hara and Buronson which was inspired by nagai's Violence Jack manga while heavily mixing in ideas from martial arts movies and Mad Max. Both of these were before dragon ball.
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>>288250451
Why are schizoposts always spaced like this
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>>288250266
Apparently he was supposed to get surgery for a brain tumor, which can increase the risk of subdural hematoma. It's common in older people, and he probably smoked like a chimney and drank like a drain like mangaka usually do. Whatever triggered the hematoma may have been bumping his head on a cabinet, or fucking jerking his head too quickly.
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>>288250375
He's still on snake way
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>>288250266
you'd probably be surprised at how fragile the head can be, especially when you're older
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>>288250346
Don't forget Crayon Shin-chan mangaka who died fall off a cliff
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>>288252239
His family doesn't have the right to kill or neglect him.

This is the Michael Jackson case over again. They had the doctors indicted.

Except Japan is lawless Narnia utopia where they assume humans are inherently good and no one had any reasons to kill Toriyama.

I loved this little jap like you'd not believe. He made the childhood of people worldwide.

>only americans are capable of greed and evil

I am tired of seeing this.

At least a public investigation shouls have been held on the family. It was not a stroke, he was HIT.
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>>288252382
I am unhinged for criticizing the japanese justice system?

Dude, if a celebrity dies due to ADHS, his family tries to hide it for as long as possible, no one rushes him to a hospital, you bet TMZ has a very strong story.

Call me evil, call me mentally ill. But America has the upperhand here.

The world's most famous manga was struck in the head and let to die. Questions need to be asked.
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>>288257310
>America
How investigations are done in other countries has nothing to do with OP's allegation of Toriyama's death being a "mystery".
It's almost as if you're trying to threadjack and distract us.
Pic unrel.



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