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New episode!
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You choice, my anonstein?
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While I would understand if someone call the first part as wholesome, but for me it was very cringe.
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What a retarded society
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What arc does myne grow up? Like at least to teenager age
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Nice, more child abuse.
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>>288276090
Child labour, good shit.
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Scenes like these really make me dislike Myne and her group.
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>>288276067
I love hags!
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>>288276150
Momʼs hand… touch my dick.
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>>288276062
Why didn't she just take them all
Why didn't she just execute the mayor
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>they use AI again
These fuckers just don't learn do they
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last week I spent 12 hours reading hannelore's 5th year and rereading part 5 even though my project report was due the next day. obvs I regret it now :(
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AAAAAAAAAAAA I HATE THAT CHILD
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>>288276157
Behind the mayor is another powerfull Trump.
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>>288276155
Nursing handjob...
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>>288276158
Where I was used, I could miss it.
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>>288276116
It's that or being sold to pedos. They just drew a shit hand.
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>>288276188
* it
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>>288276116
Fran dropped a fucking trvth nvke on those ungrateful brats, what the fuck are you talking about?
>to not be sold off to isekai epstein, you must do these
>if a noble speaks to you, you must reply
>NOOO DON'T MAKE MY LITTLE BROTHER TALK
>you must sleep separated
>NOOO YOU CAN'T SEPARATE FAMILY THIS IS JUST LIKE BEING SOLD OFF
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>>288276192
I would fuck Nora too.
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No chibi. Well, that's fucking shit.
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Stitches.
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>>288276092
Part 5. So unironically season 8.
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>>288276203
Please, don't take the bait.
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>>288276158
Where? I didn't see it.
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>>288276203
Being less bad than the Mayor doesn't automatically make you good. If your form of education is physical violence simply because other methods take a bit longer, you suck.
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>>288276168
I don't entirely get it. He's selling orphans as sex slaves, isn't that illegal for them? Rape the grey 'priest' is okay because they won't talk and they're forever bound to the temple, but city mayor selling kids seems a step further that people would take issue with. Whose pocket does the sold sex slave child even go into? The towns? The mayors?

Don't they have immediate and summary ability to just investigate and execute him?
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Last stitch.
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>>288276346
You underestimate how little heimin lives matter in the eyes of nobles, especially orphans.
>Rape the grey 'priest' is okay because they won't talk and they're forever bound to the temple
No, it's okay because nobles can do whatever the fuck they want to grey priests. Flower offerings are legal even if they're nonconsensual. Only Myne explicitly forbids that when it's nonconsensual using her authority in the temple.
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Saying this in front of the person that was slapped with this hand is quite something lmao
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>>288276393
Very slippery slope they have. There should be peasant revolts all over the place when a random uppity dickhead noble plays lese majesty games all the time. Mayors basically being held at knife point to hand over what ever. The fuck happens when random noble plays that game at some establishment for free what evers.

Myne nuke this entire setting.
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>>288276085
What a talkative society
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>>288276429
>peasant revolts
You'll see very shortly why in this world, it's stupid to even consider that. Commoners are ants that can't do anything about nobles. The only way to for things to get better is for a noble with more authority than them to do something about it.
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>>288276437
Hell for introverts.
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>>288276429
A fast way to die is a revolt
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>>288276697
All nobles should be murdered in their sleep.
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this episode pace felt very rushed
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>>288276711
If the nobles die, then the country collapses and the commoners die too.
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>>288276044
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>>288276366
Three threads.
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>>288276044
>He's right behind me isn't he?
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>>288276750
Free reign to be a piece of shit though yea, your meager 10mp donation is enough to allow you to play 'murder peasants who annoy and rape all peasant who are hot'.
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>>288276756
Those anons deserve slaps too.
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>>288276711
Again a fast way to die. In the first place the scale of such an operation would be found out about the nobles before. And those guilty and the ones non-guilty would just die without knowing anything.

Lets say even in a unlikely case a commoner revolt succeded in a duchy, the other duchies would just clean that shit up fast. I mean I doubt the actual archduke himself would not be enough and I have no clue how he would be killed in a revolt.

It is just an easy way to die. You also gotta remember the gods could also always revert time back. After all the garden exists for the mana people(nobles) not useless commoners. Without nobles the garden falls apart
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>>288276750
The commoners are the ones farming and keeping the people alive. I'm sure things will work out fine after a time of turmoil.
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>>288276771
Not like it's generally that bad for commoners. You're just kind of fucked if you found yourself in a position like being an orphaned commoner in a temple in the first place.
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>>288276062
Gotta catch them all
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>>288276834
>After all the garden exists for the mana people(nobles) not useless commoners. Without nobles the garden falls apart
Damn this world sucks balls.
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>>288276839
Nobles don't need commoners to survive, even if their standard of living dropped without them. They can use mana to farm crops and enough to feed themselves. They'd just be left making their own furniture, but not like that matters in the grand scheme of things.
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>>288276860
Welp. Now I know that myne needs to invoke each god and manually kill each and everyone one of them herself in front of the nobles. Fuck em all.
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>>288276860
Mana is everything. Without mana everything turns into sand. So yes its a world that sucks balls. But that is exactly what makes it such an interesting story where mana and the fedual system is perfectly justified. An isekai world you can actually imagine because it is so logical and well thought out.
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>>288276870
>They'd just be left making their own furniture
Entwickeln revolution.
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>>288276346
not baptized=not people.
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>>288276429
Myne and the audience have Earth's common sense about the value of commoners. Meanwhile the kingdom exists on a sterile white sand desert that nobles formatted and sustain with mana. The zent, dukes, and giebs do this every day through the white buildings' foundations, and the temple fills harvest chalices.
>trvke
The commoners contribute fuck all, because they have no mana. Commoners are seen as incidental terrain features. While the assessment is not entirely fair, there was a civil war earlier and half the nobles are gone, and the mana with them. Hmm.
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>I am not asking you
I love Rozemyne.
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>>288276945
I don't think you can use entwickeln for that. It only works with buldings. They need to be powered by the duchy grid, otherwise they collapse back into dust.
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>>288276985
Let this planet/realm or what ever die. Commoners can have mana too.
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>>288276346
The orphans are the major's property. He fed them and gave them a place to survive in since their birth. He can decide what to do with them. If anything they are towns goods.
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>>288277000
Yes, but if it ever goes to that point, I imagine all laynobles would be send to Ivory Towers just to sustain it.
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>>288276756
I've never seen a thread for bookworm, ever. What the hell?
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>>288277017
I'm not saying mana is an issue, but rather that things like chairs and tables can't draw from their grid unless they're straight up part of the building. That's why nobles need commoners to make furniture for them.
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It's so funny to know that all the commoners view Rozemyne as acting like a tyrant, just like any other noble.
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>>288277046
No matter how nice the noble they hold absolute power over the commoner.
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>>288277016
So effectively he's a pimp/ye olde jap brothel (and also the mayor!?), minus all the training and showmanship, current 14 year old has been getting fucked for years, probably the 8 year old too. But oh no, now they're greys and only for as long as myne's around, they're not sanctioned available fuck toys.
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>>288277035
We have thread every Saturday since season 4 started
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>>288277041
Is it? I thought you can give mana through other ways, even if it's less efficient.
>>288277057
>Rozemyne learns what a noble's kindness is
Yeah, Hasse is great.
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>>288276388
Bet she got wet here
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>he has a grudge against me now
>a commoner holding a grudge against a noble, an archduke's candidate at that
LOL
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>>288277014
This is also horrible idea to the entire setting
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>>288277014
Commoners could just have the sovereign open the country gate and allow for a mass exodus. They can live in a world without mana then.
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>the person herself must answer
I can't get enough of Rozemyne (Noble-Myne).
Knowing how she was, and how she actually think, make this so good.
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>>288277061
Actually not all orphans are sold like that, some unlucky like those two are sold. But majority of them come of age. And then are given land and become full-fledged members of the community. They can marry and become farmers.

Obviously the major has the power to sell them at any point before they come of age since they are the property of the town.
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Huh, weren't the brothers supposed to be there with the sisters from the start?
Having them able to open the door on their own and even making a hostile step toward Rozemyne is weird.
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>>288277185
>Thore and Rick angrily started charging at me. “What’re you planning to do to Marthe and my sister?!”
Oh, is this what actually happened but Myne only notice them charging at her?
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>>288276293
>If your form of education is physical violence simply because other methods take a bit longer, you suck
It's the norm everywhere in the world but the west.
And Mine is being hard because most nobles have no chill at all.
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>>288276116
Its harsh but its a lesson the kids need to learn, Rozemyne is a huge exception in how a noble would generally react to things, most others would have the kid killed on the spot or at least beaten severely without any thought to their future recovery.
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>>288276062
Either the tall girl in the middle or the one on the far left
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>>288276346
> isn't that illegal
no, orphans can and will be sold to whoever wants them for whatever reason, the ones that aren't of age to be baptized aren't even considered human legally.

As it is, even for the farmers of some bumfuck nowhere town, the orphans are nothing but a drain on their resources as long as they're being cared for + a potential source of good money for the sake of the town if they're sold, so selling them is automatically good in their eyes.
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>>288276429
> peasant revolts
not even remotely something that could be feasible in this setting, the nobility can have every dissenting citizen killed in horrific fashion without even having to leave their homes.
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> reading the end of part 4
> that extra chapter about Heisshitze doing all he can to try and 'save' Ferdinand from the temple and getting him a nice marriage to a higher ranking duchy, without understanding that he's basically ruining Ferdinands life

Oof, that hurts, I almost feel bad for the guy because he genuinely has good intentions despite everything.
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>>288277396
Its kind of crazy reading the earlier parts and seeing from a more 'noble' perspective the amount of shit she puts up with that would normally get those talking to her put to death.
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>>288277464
Just really bizarre. That means you accept that your own kid, could be kidnapped, declared orphaned, you die etc and they become someone fuck toy for half an hour, then just throat slit and dumped in the field as fertilizer. There should be NO family unity, either come from the nobility and have mana, or you're one interaction away from being fertilizer. Peasants like myne with mana are just annoying and need to die ASAP because we can't have our precious balance perturbed.

As I've said before, nuke this setting, nuke the gods, fuck everything.
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>>288276413
She's basically just using that as an excuse to get him to stop. Saying "he's just a child" or whatever other appeal to mercy for an orphan speaking up against a noble won't get any reaction whatsoever.
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>>288276162
Is there anywhere that volume 3 is uploaded to? I can't find it
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Very proud of Gunther for not fucking blowing it
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>>288277561
There aren't remotely enough orphans or kidnappings of kids for it to be an issue for most commoners. Most of them don't even know what kind of sordid crap goes on in the temple, nor do they really care because they aren't a filthy orphan so it doesn't affect them.

For the majority of commoners, their whole lifelong interaction with the temple is:
> go there to get baptized as a kid
> go there to get starbinded as an adult (maybe)
and that's it.
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>>288276157
Not all of them wanted to be brought into the temple. If they stick around with the mayor until they come of age, they'll be given a small plot of land and be accepted as proper citizens of Hasse. While if they go with Rozemyne they're stuck in the temple for life and will never be able to even get married. They've lived their whole lives being fed scraps and being beaten occasionally so most of them figure its normal and just deal with it.
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>>288277561
You take some of the most extreme and rare cases and act like it's the norm.
It's not and you dont need to reign at the top to live a decent life in the setting.
>As I've said before, nuke this setting, nuke the gods, fuck everything.
Go watch something else, there's many isekai power fantasy that do exactly that.
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>>288277865
The first temple we're introduced to has a rape priest pimping out children, if not fucking them himself. Now our nearest township has their mayor pimping out children, how the fuck can I not assume this is the norm?
>lololoololol no parents alive, you're a fuck toy
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>>288277865
>You take some of the most extreme and rare cases and act like it's the norm.
Anon, it's arguably worse outside of Ehrenfest. Hell, if you're a grey priestess in the sovereign temple you are literally an educational tool for hogwarts' 5th year sex-ed.
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>>288277894
> how the fuck can I not assume this is the norm?
because there's very few orphans in this setting despite the focus on them by Myne?

Also Hasse is a bit of an outlier even amongst other towns since the mayor had ties to Bezewanst and other sicko nobles through him, which is who he's been trying to sell the orphans to.
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>>288276429
>Myne nuke this entire setting.
Myne has a lot of mana and she can't really do that.
The actual gods are far above her and it never change, this is not a battle Isekai, you need to get used to the strict hierarchy.
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>What are you buyin?
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>>288278055
I'll take green-haired tomboy-looking girl and I guess her brother since I'm not that cruel.
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seize the means of mana production! Lush green land to the people!
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Every time Myne and her family find a way to meet I almost start sobbing. It keeps happening this season and it always works on me. FUCK
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The lower city backgrounds before the OP looks a bit like AI
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>>288278259
> mfw later on Rozemyne nearly misses out on the chance to make her mother (and her dyeing work) equivalent to her gutenbergs so they'd at least have a chance to meet

Thank fuck for Tuuli helping her out.
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>>288278247
seizing the means of mana production means seizing the nobles themselves, and lmao, good luck.
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>>288276388
So that's how she developed her fetish...
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Why is it that every time a series features a strict caste system, some viewers instantly think it needs a revolution esque storyline to tear it down? Saying it like it's the most obvious that the story will go that way?

Can’t those people just sit back and watch the characters try their best to live within a shit system?

I hope those watcher stop watching after Hasse.
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>>288276356
I don't know who's the client but he got taste
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Just invent electricity.... many problems solved
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>>288278664
Isekai made it normal for the protagonist to kick in the door and be a patronizing ass whenever something isn't ethically in line with 21st century Japan. The MC actually playing by the rules is almost unheard of.
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>>288278664
I can tolerate the Caste System in Honzuki because the two societies live separately and rarely interact.
Nobles have absolute power over commoners, but isn't like they are there everyday abusing that power. And also, horrible things happen inside noble society. The rule that "unbaptized aren't human" is also valid for noble born. Some people here will be very surprised by some later revelations.
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>>288278769
Because she flip flops on how much disruption and disgust she has regarding it.
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>>288278446
>yfw you're the more talented seamstress but lose the contest because of actual nepotism
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>Child labor, power abuse, blasphemy, nepotism
Reminder that Rozemyne is an evil, selfish woman and would crush anyone who stands in her way to achieve her desires.
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>>288278664
No one here actually expects a revolution
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>>288278872
She isn't flip flopping at all, she just doesn't feel strongly enough about these matters to forcefully change stuff that are possibly a consequence of bigger societal problems, like the civil war and mana shortage.
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It really feels like im missing a whole lot. Should I read the LN instead?
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>>288278939
Always. The LN will always be incomparably better than the adaptation, unfortunately. Finishing P3 with 23 episodes basically guarantees huge compromises to a lot of the less important parts once again.
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>>288276756
This isn't MAL or plebbit, we are allowed to have more than one cancer general.
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>>288278664
because all leftism is larping about the glorious revolution where the system(White, cis, patriarchy, capitalist, "i hate you dad!") will be torn down and somehow a barista/tattoo 'aritst'/hr karen will find themselves being the next lenin/mao/robespierre.
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>>288276116
Bruh, doing what Thore did would lead to social suicide IRL (at least in the west), I'll take a slap in the face any time over that.
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>>288278835
Yep, at the very least, commoners as a whole usually just don't have to deal with them. Like in Ehrenfest, the average commoner probably won't even ever SEE a proper noble throughout their whole lives, much less actually speak to one.
Even the ones that do will pretty much just be the richest of commoner merchants/guildmasters who will have to endure being talked AT by some laynoble working as a retainer or something every once in a while.

And yeah, nobles themselves aren't immune to that kind of shit treatment amongst themselves anyway, like with Philines brother basically being left to die without his magic tool just because the stepmom wanted to skimp out on having to buy her own newborn a magic tool of his own.
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>>288278880
To be fair, Rozemyne DID at least figure it out into the last few samples, she just couldn't pick which they were.
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>>288278939
Yes. The LN's have a LOT of extra detail in scenes, many a long conversation about seemingly innocuous details either become more relevant later, or at the very least still give you a lot more worldbuilding/character building content.
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>>288276429
you underestimate how much power nobles have and how reliant people are on mana in this world
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>>288277121
the best cattle is such that it doesn't know its options.
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>>288278677
this jobber
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>>288276429
Anon, we literally have similar shit happening IRL and no one is doing shit.
It's easy to virtue signal from the comfort of your home about fictionnal stories.
Actually changing things when the entire system is stacked against you is another.

In others words: you wont do shit.
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>>288276082
i find it easy to believe they sell like crazy
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>next episode: Ferdinand's Task
time to see a little girl get traumitized
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>>288280246
Is it your first time?( ruining someone Rozemyne) - with a smile from hell
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>>288280289
elvira would be a geyser if she ever saw that one
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Didnt she got pregnant while still 0x years old?
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>>288280070
It looks like a pile of junk. All it needs is the white petals to frame the golden flower.
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>>288280691
i mean i wouldn't wear it if i were a girl because it's too packed and crowded sure, but the pieces look very nice.
this looks more like it could hang on a wall or cupboard in a prime spot.
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also, !?!?
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>>288280246
>>288280289
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>>288278383
So you are a retarded falseflagger, ok.
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>>288277611
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>>288276044
I forget, did the monastery come about because of Rozemyne or Sylvester?
I recall that after Part 3 they gave up on monasteries and instead went in on setting up businesses. It's disappointing that this is the last time Rozemyne is reconciling friction between commoners and nobles.
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>>288280790
Damn, I don't think I ever heard her in a role like this. Now I am looking forward to it.
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>>288276429
bro the commoners don't care what happens to 10% of orphans (who constitute 0.1% of society and are by definition fairly disconnected). If a commoner/employer cared about a specific orphan then they would adopt the orphan or house them in a loft.
The commoners will only revolt if they're unable to feed themselves or their own families

I don't think nobles really that much on normal commoners.
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>>288277061
I don't think the kids are currently getting sexually abused. They'll only get abused the second they turn 15.
>>288277121
yep
A more based Rozemyne would have accelerated Lanzenave's noble genocide and ferried all the commoners out of Jurgenschmidt.
Actually, it would be pretty cool if Rozemyne gave her citizens the ability to emmigrate via the gate. (though I guess it will remain closed for her lifetime)
Man it would have been so cool for Rozemyne to link up with the Lanzenaveans. Maybe they could extract some more tech tree hints from her. I'm sure they would also appreciate printing technology.
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>>288277396
people say that nobles have no chill but desu I don't think we see enough examples of noble-commoner interactions to actually prove this. I think they would just ignore it
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>>288277894
It's not the norm because the vast majority of people aren't orphans
But yes, it is a very likely possibility if you are an orphan
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>>288281378
Mostly Rozemyne, she needed workshops for the printing industry and figured she would be helping rural orphans and villages in the process. Sylvester mostly just fast-tracked everything.
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The problem with revolution is that is mutual suicide (for commoner is selfexplanatory), even if they kill all commoners there arent enough nobles to work the land to feed all the nobles. At minimum they would need to demote laynobles to commoners but there arent that much of them and they dont have enough mana to use many magic tools, and if you start using mednobles you start to lack mana and manpower to make normal noble society work.
This could work if all nobles in yug go to a single ducky maybe.
>>288281378
Rozemyne, the original plan was making orphans work to help them have a better life.
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>>288278247
spoilers for end of series, but you may find it cathartic
Outside of jurgenschmidt there is another country, lanzenave. This country has a group of mana using nobles. However because their mana is merely a useful addition rather than critical, the mundanes are on the verge of usurping them with newfound technological advancements.
Myne is ultimately not a revolutionary. She lacks the principles, ideals, ambition and skill.
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>>288281732
They are probably opening it but to a different world, they need the country gate open to keep the ocean and Myne isnt going to lose her fish.
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It's pretty wise of them to have some narration at the start to make up for missed dialogue.
>>288278939
Tbh I think season 4 has been pretty good in covering the content.
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>>288280070
the previous one was good but this is over the top
Also I'm surprised they decided to add acorns or pinecones. I assume those dull brown things would be considered ugly.
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>>288281901
Those fuckers are irrelevant, their greed for feystones is also dead since their connection is gone. No more feystones or anything for that matter, they are doomed.
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>>288282028
yeah lanzenavean mana users are dead
their commoners are a-ok tho
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>>288281401
she plays priscilla from re zero
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>>288282058
Doubt they are ok, they are the ones greedy for feystones. They'll surivive, but no more feystones so for whatever they use them for. Plus I assume their white building is their city so it will also completely fall apart after the king dies.
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>mfw they think about defying nobles
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>>288276356
She has the dying mother haircut
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>>288282274
So why is her highbeast uniquely yellow?
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>>288282323
All the extra mana poured into it
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>>288278446
Didn't she end up guessing because they forgot to put a mark on Effa's work?
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>>288282323
the merch was made back when everybody had colored highbeasts so they couldn't change it
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>>288278916
Good.
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>>288282365
Nah they did that to avoid nepotism, the first time she couldnt choose between the last 3 and brunhilde ended up choosing Effa's by chance. Second time myne had tuuli in front of her and just ended up choosing while looking at how happy or sad she was.
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>>288282218
I was under the impression that they had developed mundane substitutes for all their magitech. They would only threaten the mana users if they no longer needed the mana that much. I imagine they are chilling out after leonzio and co left
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Brunehilde will marry Sylvester
What the fuck
giwtwm
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>>288281847
>even if they kill all commoners there arent enough nobles to work the land to feed all the nobles
Honestly I think you might be retarded. Two (2) archduke candidates were enough to flood an entire city using waschen. Do you really think they can't just grow their own food and use their mana to mass harvest enough to sustain themselves for at least a season? I think you're underestimating nobles too much for the sake of making this argument. Also from the fanbooks we know that Ehrenfest has like 800 nobles. That's not a lot of mouths to feed, even if they had to do it all without mana.
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>>288276062
rolling
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>>288278664
The gods want everyone to have mana so they can offer up prayers. It's the humans that are maintaining a caste system.
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>>288283398
I don't think the gods care one way or another. For them, the mana they get and the blessings they give are just a simple transaction. They didn't really give a shit when Yurgenschmidt was on the brink of collapse, which would have meant certain death for all the nobles. Really, their biggest concern was having their old pal Erwärmen die.
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>>288278664
Unironically western cultural imperialism.
Those people dont even realize that they are doing that, they truly believe that a revolution will always end up in a democracy that will make things better for everyone despite democracies failling all over the world IRL right fucking now.
They also conveniently ignore that the french revolution was followed by a period of strife that lasted 100 years where everyone, noble or commoner, could be beheaded if you looked the wrong person in a funny way.
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>>288283541
The gods like Rozemyne because she gives genuine prayers. That's why her blessings are stronger.
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>>288282957
She is kind of a bitch so I feel bad for him. But maybe he deserves it for letting Veronica be free for so long.
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>>288283618
Well, prayers fundamentally need to be sincere to be effective, and she also has more mana to dedicate than most nobles.
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>>288283036
Two of the nobles with more mana in the setting, that also needed to use feystones previously filled with mana to use a simple everyday use spell.
You are the one overstimating the mana of nobles. The royal family barely could keep their own palace from crumbling and cant keep all the magic tools running because of the lack of mana.
Laynobles barely can work their own homes and some places even now cant produce enough food to feed themselfs and depend on imports.
If you think they have enough mana to grow food and use magic tools for the harvest then you dont understand how much of a mana sink that is. They are just now trying to optimize magic tool production so laynobles and mednobles can use some.
And no noble in the setting is going to work with their hands, they at most would hunt but most nobles dont hunt for materials/food only sport.
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>>288283810
many of those tools are only needed to administer millions of commoners
entwickelns, foundations and teleporters would consume less power when you have less cultivated land, smaller harvests and fewer dwellings.
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>>288283810
Trauerqual and his family being unqualified to take care of the country foundation is a completely separate issue. They also had to take care of two duchies they couldn't integrate because they didn't have the Gbook.
>If you think they have enough mana to grow food and use magic tools for the harvest then you dont understand how much of a mana sink that is.
>And no noble in the setting is going to work with their hands
So you're saying they'll just sit back and die? I don't know how you're possibly imagine a scenario in which 800 people, half of which are mednoble-tier, can't build an infrastructure to keep themselves fed. Where is the fucking problem?
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>>288283957
it's like giving up on having a grass lawn on a fucking desert and leaving a part of it sandy. they could viably just abandon outer provinces, leave them deserted (lol), raise the social requirement to become a full noble and make the low and priest-tier noble born work the fields with the bare minimum of magic sowing tools. if making sowing and harvesting tools is too expensive, land owning middle nobles could make a stappe tool for that and use their own time to sow and harvest, while the dregs load up temple chalices and stones they hold in their hand to operate the stappe.
not too complicated.
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>>288283618
The leg up pose still makes me laugh, I would probably be executed in that world for it.
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>>288276062
Playing with far right’s hair!
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>>288277101
he's still attached to the illusion of the late high bishop's cock, his ass is still gaping please understand
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>>288276090
the children yearn for the workshops
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>>288277543
The road to hell is paved with good intentions
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>>288278055
>>288278122
She didn't pay for them at the start? I can see why this shit scalated so much (in the myne scale) but the major is also a piece of shit so I guess it's fine.
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>>288284081
And they are still among the people with more mana in the setting. Mana is and issue, you cant just say they have enough when every book they are telling you they actually dont.
Also no, im saying they dont know shit about how growing and harvesting works, you could handwave this with magic tools (that they would need to develop and optimize first and that shit takes time), if mana wasnt a problem, but you cant just send people to a field and tell them to grow food and animals with no knowledge, most people in this thread couldnt do it even and you want the nobles in the setting to do it from one day to another.
>I don't know how you're possibly imagine a scenario in which 800 people, half of which are mednoble-tier, can't build an infrastructure to keep themselves fed.
It would be different in normal society with people of different areas working using a pool of knowledge, but from those 800 almost nobody know how this work. You cant just throw numbers at a task and expect it to work just because.
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>>288284875
Yes, because all the nobles like the Leisegangs just look at their fields mouth agape and wonder how these mysterious things possibly work. No way they could, like, assign a scholar that figures out how it all works to organize people and cultivate some fields. They'll just be going around tripping over their own feet without commoners to tie their shoes.

Your wisdom has enlightened me, fellow heiminbro.
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>>288276116
Kid needed a good slap because he has no clue about Myne’s situation and spoke like an idiot. He would have literally been killed dealing with most other nobles.
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I just remembered the country is literally collapsing right now and Ferdinand knows how to save it, but he's just sitting in Ehrenfest teaching Rozemyne how to deal with uppity commoners.
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Damn quick-to-violence orphan brats need trombe correction!
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>>288285357
I don't think he is aware of how bad things truly are. It's better to hope for things to sort themselves out rather than risk provoking another civil war.
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>>288284995
Why should they know? theirs is the desk job, doing the shit that commoners are too stupid to do, setting price, import/exports, negotiations, budget etc. Leisengang is Ehrenfest breadbasket not because the nobles are agriculture genius, is because it has the best climate and geography for agriculture.
Monsanto CEO couldnt grow a potato even if you give him one.
>No way they could, like, assign a scholar that figures out how it all works to organize people and cultivate some fields
This would be true if not for the fact that is established that nobles dont do this at all, like one of the changes Myne wants for noble society is doing exactly that. Noble give orders and commoners have to think how to get it done, thats how the relationship works and why they dont interact that much unless they are in a really super rural region like Ilgner.
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>>288284995
If nobles are so smart, why does Rozemyne have to keep tard-wrangling them so they don't crush the commoner businesses with unrealistic demands? Even the scholars are all incompetent except the ones Ferdinand trains.
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>>288285438
>the fact that is established that nobles dont do this at all
Exactly. They'll just sit back and die instead of coming up with a plan and putting their lesser ranked nobles to work. It's common sense that you walk around with your shoes untied and fall on your face if there is no one to do it for you. Learning to do it by themselves is beneath them. I'm agreeing with you, can't you see?
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Showing his royal blood there
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>>288276447
I relate more to the nobles so from my perspective that would be things getting worse.
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>>288280907
A perfect match
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I LOVE SLAVERY SO MUCH.

SLAVERY FUCKING RULES
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>>288278921
>Improve society
>plan would clearly make it worse
You are not even slightly intelligent.
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>>288279135
>I hate this system, so let's make it worse
And thus their real problem with the system is revealed, the problem is that these wannabe tyrants are not at the top.
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>>288286500
I wish Myne would make me her slave
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>>288276116
He was right. Kids were being dumb as shit. Ungrateful fucks would get raped to death by fat bastards if not for her.
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>>288282001
they explained fashion is about matching the color of the gods or seasons or birth time
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>>288283036
Honestly I think you are correct.
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>>288285357
He has known her since before his baptism so he has his priorities straight.
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>>288286681
It might be fine in-universe, but from the perspective of a viewer living in a civilized society, child abuse like that certainly isn't pleasant on the eyes.
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>>288280246
Please tell me the little girl is Myne.
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>>288286776
as requested
the little girl is Myne.
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>>288286748
Half of humanity lives in garbage conditions no better than this even today.
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>>288286808
And just like the unbaptized here, they are not really human
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>>288286776
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>>288286808
Yeah and it sucks.
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>>288286894
Oh come on, you can't tell me she didn't secretly get turned on by that.
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>>288286945
I could very easily tell you such an obvious lie, are you doubting my linguistic skills?
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>>288286684
schutzaria is yellow though not brown
I think there's reason to doubt that they would be interested in acorns, because they are pretty different to colourful, vibrant flowers.
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>>288276044
is she still a kid in the anime?
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>recruit orphans for your sweatshop
>your education and training makes them so expensive that no one can afford to buy them out
Sasuga Myne
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>>288287054
we're like 20 volumes away from her no longer being a midget
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>myne being told to bring down her opposition
noooo i could never bring down my enemies
>myne when wilfried gets to read books instead of her
say your fuckin prayers kiddo it's crushin time
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>>288287093
so the anime will never get to that point.
Got it.
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>>288287093
It's okay, at least we will still have the doujinshi.
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>>288287184
With the series already having like 10 separate manga adaptations, a complete English LN release, and a season after this already confirmed, it doesn't seem so unlikely that we'll get there one day. Might take ten years, but the fans of this series (50-year-old OL's with disposable income) will pay for it.
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>>288287119
a Fran slap would have done Wilfried a lot of good
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>>288287231
Thank you Oil Lords for the funding.
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>>288286945
>secretly
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>>288287256
These thirsty +30 year old oil lords seem to be funding a lot of stuff these days.
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>>288287231
I am concerned about Ferdinand's VA. He is pretty old already.
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>>288287339
>born in 86
That's still young.
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>>288287387
Anon he's 67.
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>>288287413
>1986 to 2026
>67
anon...
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Good episode
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>>288287472
>dubnigger
hans, get his medal
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>>288287490
You need to thank the gods for their gift of the lingua franca you ungrateful heimin.
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>>288282323
> Myne's little yellow tardcart
One of the best characters, no question about it. Up there with Stenluke
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>>288282323
color and shade are determined by a persons strongest attribute and overall mana capacity, Damuel's should be a dark yellow
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>>288287339
i 'was' thinking he sounds like a tired granpa in some situations with some tones.
he's been playing ossans for a long while, ferd might be a bit young for him by now
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>>288288048
They did the same thing with Grandma Goku, sorry but obvious fuck ups like this don't inspire confidence.
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>>288276157
patience, patience.
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>>288276093
What is the cure for such behavior? Beatings.
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>>288288520
Beatings will continue until morale improves.
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>>288276116
lol wut
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>>288276957
they're baptized though.
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>>288276429
Even on Earth, without magic, peasant revolts had a terrible success rate.
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>>288287987
I guess that does make sense.
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>>288288734
if you do a peasant revolt, you better hope you have nobunaga on your side
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>>288283036
Judithe my beloved.
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>>288288734
all peasant revolts are just noble revolts under a hidden banner
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>>288289303
True honestly, at least the successful ones.
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>>288289303
sometimes theyre merchants and guild things, alternative oligarchs
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Just another day in isekailand.
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Lady Rozemyne paid oji-san to have some fun.
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>>288276044
Fran slapped the dickhead kek... also deserved.
Episode 7 is turning point so shit will be going down.
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Oof. Those brats are lucky Myne already underwent noble's manner training.
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>>288289626
If it was in commoner down town they would just get beating from others like Lutz. However she is not going to execute anybody unless they touch her books... if they did that it would turned into Star Wars immediately and they would get force chocked.
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>>288283036
They could also make golems probably.
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>>288289955
Why is the golem a vibrating tentacle monster?
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>>288289955
No, anon. As was explained earlier, using mana to solve their issues is LITERALLY impossible. Even if they had enough mana, scholars DON'T understand the concept of sowing seeds and letting them grow (even if they cultivate feyplants as part of their job in the same way).

With commoners gone, shoelaces remain untied and mouths unfed. It's OVER for nobles.
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>>288290098
/s
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>>288281378
Rozemyne is technically 'at fault' for the building. She was expecting to build a regular monastery over the course of like, a year or more, but Ferdinand and Sylvester interpreted her words + actions (wining and dining them both) as a request for them to make the monastery one of the noble white buildings that needs to be made with magic instantly.
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>>288283036
Using Myne and Ferdinand as examples for basically any magic actions in this setting is kind of retarded, both of them have WAY more mana than like 10 adult archduke candidates combined, at least.
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>>288289501
My Lady are we.. Are we the Truck-Kun?
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>>288291127
And most of the nobles waste their mana instead of using it for the church.
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Only just started part 5, but I've been wondering something after all the purge shit happened.

In regards to the name swearing feystone stuff, is it ever explained that they'd be intending to give back the name stones that some of the nobles had been given to Veronica at some point before she croaks? I know the folks who gave their names to Georgine were mostly killed, but Veronica's namesworn could get through the purge without being executed.

Problem is that Veronica already seems mega old and could seemingly pass away any time in the next few years, so what, is Sylvester just okay with everyone namesworn to her in Ehrenfest dying when she does? Even if they've proven already that they're willing to work against her? Feels like it'd be a big waste of mana.
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>>288291127
>both of them have WAY more mana than like 10 adult archduke candidates combine
I merely used it as a reference, but even then, no, it isn't that extreme. Some fanbook already mentioned that there are at least a handful of elder archducal family members from greater duchies that are in Myne's range, and have more mana than even Trauerqual. And a couple of people of this caliber should be enough to take care of their own duchy's nobility each harvesting season, especially if other archnobles pitch in. I just can't possibly imagine that this is an issue in any way.
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>>288291278
The potential problem is that in order to release them they are put in a position where Veronica also has the option to send out orders to them.
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>>288289501
It even has air conditioning
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>>288291278
It's never really brought up, though our perspective is biased from Rozemyne's point of view and she wouldn't really care. I don't remember anything in the Fanbook Q&As either.
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>>288291407
Could they not just have Veronica surrounded by knights as she releases them from like, the other side of the room or something? And the second she tries to give an order or say something other than "I give you back your name" they kill her?
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Anime only keep saying they can't wait for the mayor to step out of line or make a huge blunder.

They don't realize he already has.

I can't wait to see their reactions next week, it’s going to be great.
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>>288291468
> mfw "Its just a building, and its not like anyone got hurt so it doesn't really matter that much, right?"
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>>288291468
it's alright, retired evil santa's got his back
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>>288291127
If the average laynoble is 1 unit of mana, Ferdinand and Myne are like 200-250, the royals are maybe 150-170, and the top tier nobles like Aub Dunkelfelger are probably around 180-190.
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>>288291690
That would mean there is about thirty thousand units of underutilized mana.
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>>288291718
These retards have trouble getting a steady supply of magic tools so yes, they are badly mismanaging resources. They really need to convert the laynobles into a clerical middle management workforce that interfaces higher nobles and commoners but that's too radical.
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>>288276044
Imagine
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>>288291468
I talked my friend into watching the whole series, I am so excited to see his reaction.
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>>288292305
good job... i seriously don't know why this show isn't more popular. It have everything you can ask from it... good characters, good world building, good story writing.
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>>288292334
> i seriously don't know why this show isn't more popular.
the fact that its an isekai plot will immediately turn a lot of people off who would've otherwise enjoyed it because they think its just simple game system slop like so many others, + the first 3 seasons weren't really very good in regards to animation quality/story pacing either.
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>>288292120
what about if... you know... there was a sudden shortage of children's mana crystals on the market? causing like, i don't know, 15% less nobles to succeed at first year of hogwarts?
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>>288292334
>why this show isn't more popular
earlier seasons were garbage
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>>288292487
Valid criticism but people don't mind watching Shonen slop and there is a lot of them or another school anime. I understand that animation and pacing aren't great but let's be honest if ADHD autist like cawcaw sit trough all of it and enjoyed it then probably anybody can.
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>>288292531
In what manner ?
I like that it was slow and let it build characters... its not suppose to be a battle anime where you have constant action it's about Mayne existing in the new world and working towards her goal of getting books.
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>>288292334
Stuff like worldbuilding and solid writing just aren't very entertaining in anime format. Part 4 is the most suitable to be animated because it's basically Harry Potter with ditter and flashy magic stuff.
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>>288292531
1 and 2 made me read it, so they weren't bad enough to be a failure at their intended purpose.
they made me like the characters and hyped the crafting nicely.
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>>288292545
> people don't mind watching Shonen slop
sure but those people want different things from that kind of slop, more action and hot girls and overt comedy, not impoverished bookmaking shenanigans and political intrigue.

I'm sure some can and did stick with it regardless but in general I can see why a good number of anime watchers (especially seasonal bingers) just saw that it was an isekai, saw that the animation wasn't that good, and heard that the plot was kind of rushed, and just decided they wouldn't bother giving it a proper try.
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>>288292612
I don't know for example Mushoku Tensei is even stronger in world writing where whole anime feels like journey trough the world with exception that it have more action and magic if magic and harry potter like shit is enough to make it people interested in then it's over... kek.
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>>288292573
In term of adaptation anon except for season 1 , that one is ok not good though
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>>288292622
You are probably right im looking at this anime from probably a different point im older and thing is that i seen a lots of anime so maybe im not that interested in those common tropes anymore.
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>>288292680
back around bakarina i started watching most villainess shows, but i stopped a bit after magirevo and yumiella's/grace's shows.
it's just so many times you can watch the same story hoping for enough crumbs of flavor.
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>>288292760
My Next Life as a Villainess was fun tho even if it plays on common tropes too sometimes, but i liked her character for thinking out all dumb thinks like throwing snake toy on prince or magic bumps etc... I like to watch this shows too from time to time it's kind of like Isekai but for girls even tho i bet most of guys watch it my favorite that i saw last time was From Bureaucrat to Villainess.
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>>288292650
MT's worldbuilding and writing are more expansive, but they lack the depth found in Honzuki.

I hope the sequel leans into that expansive side imagine taking a tour through a Klassenberg town hidden deep inside the mountain
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>>288292823
I wonder if they will continue with adaptations of manga and if they catch up if they are willing to catch up... i honestly don't know how popular is ascendance in Japan but i hope they will keep at it but again if show is not popular enough they will not keep going with it. It's bad enough we had to wait this long for season 4.
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>>288292823
i'd like another isekaier, maybe a boy, who embodies a different flavor of autism, seeks power differently, has different end goals.
to not make it conflict with canon, maybe have him start acting in a noiceable way a few years after main graduates and is busy reading and fucking.
he could actually make heimins worth something in eyes of one province, start another different branch of industry, or maybe make a living trading with different worlds through gates.
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>>288292868
At this point there's definitely a feeling that the studio wants to hurry up and get to part 4 because that'd probably be one of the more openly popular bits, given all the harry potter magic stuff going on + a lot of political conflicts that could make things very bad for Rozemyne very quickly.

That being said, P4's ending is pretty depressing, so I would hope that if they do end up adapting it, they don't just leave it there.
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>>288292760
I completely stopped reading OI or isekai with female protagonists (excluding gender benders, though even those have been ruined lately by Korean web novels using the exact same formulas) after finishing Honzuki.


It just so tropy now, which is also why I kind of dislike H5Y (it's fun, but there isn't enough subversion) .

It still makes me laugh how Honzuki utilized the yandere and first love letter tropes. When you think about it, Honzuki did use OI tropes in a sense, but it never felt tropy like other series
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>>288276429
Magic is bullshit OP, there won't be any revolts until some isekaisha goes the Drifters route and pushes the setting into the pike and shot era.
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>>288292978
i hope so. Because this is basically my favorite Isekai and im still not reading manga because i held on hope that we get anime... but after it's done i probably will end up reading it.
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>>288292959
It wouldn't work or at least i don't think it would.
Basically Myne work is already going to have a devastating consequences for their whole system. Second books become cheap and uncontrolled it's going to be a chaos and system will have to change.
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>>288293005
Oh hey, missed your post
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>>288292978
>Feeling

Back during the Part 3 promotions, the production committee was already talking about adapting Part 4.

When they started planning the next seasons, their focus was entirely on Part 4.

They definitely rushed things just to get there
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>>288293005
>pike and shot
nobles wouldn't fall to a handful of muskets lol, you would have to have multi shot breech loading stuff for a bare minimum of firepower. in the time a heimin reloads his single shot matchlock from the front, a noble fires a mana slash along their firing line, or a scattering arrow gg no re, while a shield of shutzeria is going to be up QUICK while they break medals of every heimin from A to Z excluding some critical servants.
though, it would most likely be like youjo senki episode 5 and end in a rolfstomp from flying mounts in full armor.
>>288293086
it's all good, but more than books, weaving and farming automation changed the world IRL. there is still place for someone to start proper industry.
if someone could squeeze out even a quarter of what dr stone characters pull off, he'd live like a king off sales and royalties. he would still have to stay afloat vs nobility just like main, but we saw how to do that.
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>>288293260
I won't argue with you that it wouldn't be fun to watch but again... it would have to be done by author him self since world of Ascendance have it's own set of rules which at least i don't understand specially when it comes to magic.

In our world for example heating problems were solved by having fireplaces in homes, later when electricity came to be a thing people switched to hydronic heating because with electricity this simply became possible. What i want to say with this that if you have magic you simply can step over some things and inventions or you can make your life more convenient where we would need horses and later cars for transportation in ascendance if you have magic you don't need this... you might say okay but what about people who can't cast magic well and this is a thing about this world i don't know how the author builded it maybe it's possible to charge or create being that can be controlled by others with feystones etc... it's a problem of world rules that author have created.
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>>288293341
ah well, anons above should have shown you one answer in posts. there isn't enough mana in all of jurg to use it on mundane shit, especially not for lowly heimins. that's why i'm even talking about steam and gearbox based industry.
lowest nobles have to stoop as low as having heimins come to their home (frieda) to charge up their mana stones to maintain some minimum of dignified lifestyle.
all thanks to nobles being retarded and killing half of themselves about a decade ago.
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>>288293420
that would be interesting to see
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>>288293260
Even implying that there'd be direct clashing between peasant uprisings and nobles is kind of a stretch when the aub or any other archduke candidate can just start killing swaths of peasants at will from safe inside their giant castles just by executing their baptism medals.
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>>288293420
Why's it called a civil war anyway if the only habitable part of the planet is this circular area? Or are there other kingdoms, fucking huge distances away in the desert?
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>>288292531
Earlier seasons got me to read the LN, so I would disagree.
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>>288294002
The country gates can open portals to faraway lands of which we know of at least 2 with functional civilizations.
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>>288276044
If Myne love her family so much why doesn't she fight for the working class and take down the empire?
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>>288294345
uh can't she be medal'd?
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>>288294345
Because she got a good deal in which she can do that while making books.
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>>288294345
>Why doesn't she get them killed
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three episodes and we'll finally learn the real plot of Part 3 that got cut in episode 1 for whatever reason
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>>288294604
>real plot
ah yes, making stupid niggers read.
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As a noble couldn't Myne just do whatever the fuck she want and start taking random men to her room?
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>>288276293
Fran's slap is a minor correction compared with nobles who would simply have them beheaded for insolence. The world in bookworm is vile and reprehensible and the entire noble class should be violently overthrown.
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>>288294921
She already does that.
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>>288276091
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzCjlU8Hhl4
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>>288276154
>hag
I bet if we check her age she is younger than 85% of the fags ITT.
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>>288294079
Oh no, myne can go home.
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>>288276157
See >>288277796
Joining the temple means a comfy life but one of endless rules and work. Staying an orphan meant suffering now but more freedom when they came of age. Most questions from watching the anime are explained in the light novels. Everyone here should go buy or borrow the books. It's what Myne would want.
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>>288295335
only worlds with mana, so we gotta up our wizard population, as much of an oxymoron that may be
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>>288278880
As >>288279286 and >>288282654 said, they made the contestants anonymous so Rozemyne could not choose her hairpin maker's mom's entry. Rozemyne was able to narrow it down but she was distracted by some nobles during the event and didn't have time to really look. During the second contest, Rozemyne cheated but Tuuli's happiness made it ok.
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>>288295352
I mean you're fucked either way right? Guy is a slaver effectively (apparently every township is, since orphans are apparently just able to be sold as sex slaves). What stops any and all towns from just at 14/15 declaring each kid sold, even if not to be 'married off', but as just a basic labor slave? Didn't they have a civil war recently? Shouldn't there be a rather large volume of war orphans?

It's just odd to me, each class has another underclass until you reach orphan, and at that point there's another underclass and it's the legal sex slave where the town, presumably gets the proceeds. But no one really gives a shit since it's not them, but also no one seems to give a shit that their own kid(s) could end up like this. Wonder what level of kidnapping goes on as well to declare the kid an orphan.

I guess nobles don't need a huge amount of human labor slaves given the hierarchy system in place: Got mana? Anyone without mana is your bitch if you say so.
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>>288295352
It's not freedom to receive welfare, they're expected to work.
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>>288284595
If you smile while praying how is it a bad thing?
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>>288295538
Not every township has a shitty mayor.
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>>288295538
>Didn't they have a civil war recently? Shouldn't there be a rather large volume of war orphans?
Ehrenfest was not directly involved.
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>>288292334
AofB merely has alright characters
the intensely stratified society also reduces the number of character interactions
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>>288293086
One thing that bugs me is how everybody says this in part 2 but then nothing comes about as a result of printing 5 years later. I concede anything major would take longer but without even a minor happening it feels like an forgotten plotline.
I'm surprised the guilds didn't use printing to print many copies of their rules & regulations to sell to their members.
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>>288295701
I think the characters are fine. Obviously Myne and Ferdinand are developed far beyond anyone else, but the other commonly encountered people have a solid amount of detail.
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>>288294345
bro she doesn't care about the working class
as far as she's concerned her family are living a alright life (they are) and the only bad thing is that she can't live with them
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>>288295752
Even by the end of the main LN there are only like 3 or 4 printing stores in Ehrenfest and 1 in Ahrensbach, that's nowhere near enough to start seeing the consequences of the industry
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>>288294604
oh yeah they did cut out the examination scene wth
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>>288295538
I'm not sure if Ehrenfest has industries to funnel slaves into. I'm not sure if there's much of a demand for labour slaves.
Maybe Klassenberg, a duchy specialised in mining, has more slaves.
Also the mayor is only selling 10% of their orphans as slaves. Clearly there's some incentive or rule for the mayor to keep most of the orphans.
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>>288295807
still, kazuki should have shown even the weakest of currents by the end of the story
she should have made an unrealistic convoluted device to examine a microcosm of the impact. Maybe have a character namedrop a guy who wants to print existing manuscripts about the nature of power or industry/agriculture. Or have a copy of Dunkelfelger's history stumble into a merchant's hand who then combines it with other knowledge to produce an action item.

Of course it's hard to examine the impact of printing because Kazuki neglected the lower city 20% of the way into the story, and didn't flesh it out that much.
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>>288295839
Orphans will be given small plot of land and citizenship after baptism, so they have to sustain themselves. Slaves needs to be fed and housed. All commoners are effectively serfs in eyes of nobility, and while RM have morals of Earth, it will take a lot of effort to change the system. But RM is selfish, everything she does is either protecting people she cares about, or reaching her own goals of making and reading books.
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>>288295941
*Is for protecting
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Tuuli...aaaah, my little Tuuli. You're so cute, pretty and hardworking! I wish I could adopt you!
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>>288295352
Myne wouldn’t even pay attention to her own books.
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They all want Mynes for Myneselves.
Why are they not going to the secret can do anything room to let her enjoy her real mothers company?
I always really liked this part where her mother got to put the pin in her hair.
It would be very hard for a dad who loves his daughter so much to have to act like he doesn't know her. I would struggle with not being able to pat her cute little head.
Feels like this montage just brushed past a lot of silly jokes.
Slap a little bitch.
Great endcard.
The attack on the monastery next week?
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>>288295941
is there an incentive for the mayor to not sell the orphans? Does the mayor get a cut of the total productivity of the village?
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>>288296149
Can they explain it away? Everyone in that room, knows mynes history right? They're playing dumb incase the walls have eyes though, so taking these peasants into the secrecy vault would just be tooo much, ask too many questions I guess.
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Myne has always been an asshole. Glad we can finally agree on this point. This series is infuriating as hell and you are a retard if you keep watching despite hating it. Just drop it. This is among the worst isekai ever.
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>>288296232
guards, this heimin has lost his composure.
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Why is she so insisting on whoring out the high priest to the nobility?
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>>288296329
Because sylvester handed her a 2 million dollar bill for the monastery construction.
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>>288296172
He can't sell if there's no buyers. Obviously ones who get sold either have mana, are skilled or beautiful.
Random impoverished child is of no interest to anybody.
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>>288294921
Actually not really, it is not proper. Her retainers would never allow it, it has to be a convoncing reason. The reason she can do that now, she is a little and is 7. When she is 10 and onwards hidden room is for nobody but her alone.
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>>288296597
I'm sure there would be buyers at a price of 1 small copper + opportunistic transport
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>>288295926
What gets printed was always limited by the one in charge. Rozemyne was mostly interested in printing educational material for kids and random stories from all over the place. And then Elvira mostly pushed for romanceslop. It will take a while until they get to printing books that can become a problem if they get into wrong hands. Dunkelfelger's history books are of no use to commoners without mana.
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>>288296641
yea she's a semi-public figure
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>>288295538
>Didn't they have a civil war recently? Shouldn't there be a rather large volume of war orphans?

There is no such thing in that civil war. If you were on the winners side and your parents died, you got adopted by some close tied family. If you were on the losers side, you got purged together with your entire family. Nobody survived that, not even small children, they got murked as well.
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>>288296764
That's for nobles. I doubt they would give a shit about commoners who got caught up in it.
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>>288294936
>Fran's slap is a minor correction compared with nobles
Of course, but to me as the viewer it's still unpleasant and will make me dislike the character.
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>>288296693
Eh I dunno I'm sure the Rozemyne workshop would be open to commissions. I'm also sure there would be some motivated people who would want a 100 copies of something.
Though I suppose it may take 20 years rather than 5 for thst to happen but in that case Kazuki should have used her power as the author to jump over boring realisms like that and present us with interesting events.
It doesn't have to be anything conspiratorial. The plantin forms is a step in the right direction but still it's too bland
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>>288296779
Well the losing territories do have surviving commoners and they are suffering because there is no archduke in their duchy, so the soil lacks mana. Rather than not giving a shit, the other nobles have to care for their terriotires who already lack mana because even if you were a winner, you still lost a lot of nobles. And it is kinda impossible to keep those territories in a good condition without the foundation. So they keep it alive to somehow survive but it is in a bad condition.
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>>288295538
>civil war
I don't think commoners even get used in warfare
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>>288296841
There are also surviving nobles it is not like everyone got purged. Just the ones who had assosication with the ruling family or involved in the war. Since duchies do have factions who are not so buddy buddy with a ruling family. So they try to keep their territory alive, but no archduke means they are screwed the longer this continues.
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>>288296779
The war didn't involve commoners. Worst thing that happened to them is their land now being mana deprived.
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>>288296855
they used devouring soldiers for plenty of attacks in ehrenfest
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>>288296888
devouring only affects like 0.1% of the population. Majority of commoners are still fine, no?
Also I wonder how they accumulate that many devouring people. Laynoble mana sensing?
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>>288296901
Devouring is treated stupidly too. Devouring children are seen both as a valuable resource and yet also completely undesirable burdens. Pick one damnit.
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>>288296918
>yet also completely undesirable burdens
By whom? They can serve as a mana battery even if they're a cripple. They can always be put to use in some way.
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>>288296693
didn't people read too deeply into fernestine and made up all manner of conspiracy theories over it?
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>>288296863
What's this power structure anyway.
>actual royal family
>archdukes of each 'nation'/fief
>dukes/high noble (massive faction fragmenting here)
Head royals control the gates, archdukes are tasked with making sure their fief has mana in the ground to do work (crops, keep the sand at bay, upkeep buildings/mana-made infrastructure or what ever).

The setting seems weird reading threads, the show clearly hasn't got to all this world lore and it's something that should have been infodumped at myne after he mind was read.

>yo we need a system to micromanage mana users so the walls of our cage don't pop and we're in the 'we're fucking dead desert'
What kind of scenario are we really working under? 'The vault, is massive, we can support a couple million, as long as we have X units of mana available for upkeep'. Or 'the more people who have mana, the larger we can expand the vault'. And in the middle of all of that, people be people and play ladder climbing games.
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>>288296975
The scope of the story broadens by part. So part 3 introduces the local political climate while international stuff are introduced later when rozemyne has to care and has influence.
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>>288296956
If you watch season 1-2 there are not enough magic tools to safely raise a devouring child. And yet the temple is full of magic items which require mana, curious.
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>>288296975
The general mana shortage can be attributed to many problems that haven't been brought up in the anime yet, the primary one being that the current king did not inherit the main administrative artifact and wasn't able to redraw duchy borders, so they are half-assedly pumping mana into them so they don't burden the entire grid.

Normal people don't supply mana to duchy or country foundations, they just had too many people die in general so they can't even upkeep general facilities and magic tools.
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>>288296901
>devouring only affects like 0.1% of the population.
That's some "we don't have any gays here in North Korea" energy.
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>>288296975
Part 4 and part 5 alone have 21 volumes. First 3 parts are 12 volumes.

You get more info when the time is right. So it never feels like an info dump. Rozemyne learned about yogurtland because she went to royal academy. So she had to know duchies and their rankings. How to act and treat them without fucking her own duchy over.
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>>288297002
Commoners don't get these general use magic tools unless they enter a contract with a noble who has these and can put the mana to use. You can drop your child off at the temple, but then you lose custody over them forever and they are the duchy's property from that point on.
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>>288297002
It's fucking retarded, but also explained by their insane classism. Can't have these peasants be noble level in mana, they might supplant us. Their society is utterly fucked, mana having commoner is useful until they start to know how much use they are.
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>>288297013
Nobles are what % of the world population?
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>>288297029
Rozemyne is unique. No devouver will be archducal level. Her compression can only be done by her. After all they have varying mana levels. But the ones like dirk who had mednoble range would die when they were like 1.

The ones who survive have less mana so devouvers will always be whatever help in the grand scheme.
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>>288297013
So truth energy
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>>288297029
Myne is an exception. Commoners generally have negligible amounts of mana. Magic tools made by scholars are just too scarce and expensive to be generally available to commoners. Some laynoble families can barely cover the expenses for their own children and have to dump them at the temples as well.
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>>288276062
I want to protect this one. I bet she has as sharp tongue and won't hesitate to call you a weirdo.
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>>288297002
it's artificial scarcity
also ferdinand in part 2 seemed to say that nobles who went to the academy are obligated to prevent non-nobles from learning more about magic
But your point still stands when you consider Philine's brother. Why doesn't Sylvester let nobles and noble children dump excess mana every week into some duchy tool. Is it necessary for there to be many nobleborn adults around?
>>288296957
Ooooh that's a great point, I didn't see it in that way. I'll keep that in mind when we revisit those parts.
Something more commoner-focused would still be nice though.
>>288297013
ok maybe it's 1% of newborns but a fraction of them survive to childhood and a fraction of those get contracted/kidnapped. If the numbers getting kidnapped/contracted was higher then commoners would know there was a mysterious illness that interested nobles. I'm sure Gunther, a well connected peasant, would know about it.

(though then again nobody questioned Myne's death story that much so maybe they actively ignore noble activities)
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>>288297090
>>288297070
She literally can't be.

The noble class came from somewhere. They're not ALL related and mega inbred. It's just fucking classism. How many kids have died over this worlds history who were massive mana batteries born to "commoners" who could have simply been a "new" noble line.
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>>288297171
>Why doesn't Sylvester let nobles and noble children dump excess mana every week into some duchy tool.
He does. But you forgot one very important detail. Laynobles need to have their mana saved up for their Divine Will. If they don't have it by that point, their life as a noble is over.
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>>288297183
gahhh right I forgot about that!
nvm
damn i love it when the details catch me off like that
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>>288297180
The founding figures were directly supported by the gods, and also actual rejects from the divine realm if the lore is to be taken at face value. People like them won't come again from devouring commoners.
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>there are people itt that don't respect nobles
Utterly disgusting. I don't want to be near someone who doesn't appreciate the people who keep this barbaric world functioning.
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>>288294660
Myne wouldn't say the n word.
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>>288297279
Nobles?
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>>288276085
my hr manager is so cute
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>the church is buying up children
Of fucking course
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>>288297470
Yes, and they'll be happy. You could be smiling like >>288276090 as well if you got to work for a baked potato and a jug of water each day.
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>>288292159
Oh I do
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>>288297470
It's okay because it's better than letting the mayor traffic them to lolicon nobles.
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I wonder if the Rozemyne Workshop is actually a better solution than the previous offerings of the Gods system. The previous system was decent until the war and subsequent purge.
I suspect the Rozemyne Workshop will run into difficulties 10 years down the line when their paper is no longer competitive and 40 years down the line when their printing is no longer competitive.
150 years down the line I could see it transfiguring into a horribly exploitative child labour system. At least the potential damage by the new system only existing in the Hasse monastery and the duchy temples.
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>>288298127
>when their paper is no longer competitive
..and why would it not be? Trombe paper cannot be produced unless there is nobility involved, and that general know-how would also need some serious industrial espionage. I cannot imagine a scenario in which they would get away with this when it can get you in serious trouble with one of the most powerful nobles in the entire country. Rozemyne Workshop will likely always be number one even if some lesser quality bootleg paper is made.
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>>288298227
ah great point they have a monopoly on trombe paper
nevertheless a motivated merchant would eventually notice they are purchasing trombe twigs and produce trombe paper themselves.
Rozemyne workshop would eventually get outcompeted by workshops that use mechanised devices to hammer and process the fibres. Perhaps they would also fail to scale up production due to limited workspace.

Medieval people used animals, humans or waterwheels to mechanically saw wood, pump water, finish fabric and make paper. These contraptions were built of wood rather than metal. I find it very likely that other paper workshops will make these innovations within the next century.

I don't think the rozemyne workshop plan to continue farming trombe in the future, though maybe I misremember.
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>>288298408
>they are purchasing trombe twigs and produce trombe paper themselves
Again, how would they do that? They need nobles to imbue taue fruits, and I'm pretty sure any unsanctioned trombe farming is a sure-fire way to get yourself dusted considering the risks involved. And it's not like Myne needs to aggressively monopolize the profits. Opening up branches in other duchies can have other archdukes and nobles profit from the business, so they'd also do the job of crushing any sources of illegal paper workshops should they appear. Safe to say RW will keep its dominant position in the papermaking business as long as Myne doesn't fumble it.
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>>288298483
Finding out is certainly possible because the Workshop is purchasing the trombe wood from another party. That party isn't under any confidentiality agreements, so I'm sure word eventually this knowledge would jump from the wood traders to paper merchants.
Even if that didn't happen, the paper merchants, in pursuit of new paper, would definitely try trombe paper. Trombe wood can be acquired by hanging out around the lower city gate and waiting for trombe wood to roll in.

Am I wrong to believe that trombe wood is on the market? Gunther carves his own wood into furniture but I'm sure some soldiers just sell their pieces to the traders. Maybe nobles also sell their trombe wood. The Workshop certainly can't serruptiously hoover up the trombe softwood themselves. They'll rely on other parties to get it.
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Also maybe Benno has his own paper workshops, can't remember.
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>>288282957
I felt pretty bad for Sylvester, considering how he was so devoted to Florencia and only ever wanted to be with her.

As of part 5, are Rozemyne and Eglantine the only two big name nobles who have gotten away with only having one spouse? Or will they eventually have to take on more too? I guess its a bit different when you're dealing with women leaders.
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>>288285419
This, they kind of make a point later on to convey that he's seriously shocked at how little the royal family knew about the grutrissheit and how to become zent in general.
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>>288298702
Probably doesn't matter when it's the woman holding the title. If they need someone to take care of duties, they can just hire more retainers. They can't have more than one child at a time, so having multiple husbands is pointless in that regard.
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>>288294477
Yep, she can. Even without that, she knows that Sylvester or whoever else she gets in the way of could have her assassinated fairly easily, at least earlier on.
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>>288296957
Yep, everyone thought the story was about Rozemyne herself rather than Ferdinand and figured it was her secret cry for help because Sylvester or the rest of the aubs family were being cruel to her or whatever. I'm pretty sure she spent like half of her time socialising just denying rumours that she was being mistreaded at least in part because of that book.
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>>288298593
>Am I wrong to believe that trombe wood is on the market?
Yes, RM hide the fact that her best paper is made of it because trombe are rightfully seen as natural disaster.
No one but her even think of using it as material.
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>>288298853
hmm seems like I need to reread part 1 then
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>>288298870
Lutz and Gil lose their shit when they saw a newly born trombe and immediatly grab their knifes and hack at it while calling for help.
The Knight order consider trombe to be priority target for extermination.
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>>288297251
Noble tyranny won't last forever. Pic-related has the most mana in the entire series yet he got chased out of his own country by commoners with anti-magic tech. An uprising where nobles are reduced to mana batteries is inevitable.
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>>288298979
Outside of Yurgenschmidt, sure. But inside the country? Nah, the gods won't allow anything to happen to Ewigeliebe's seal. They'll interfere.
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>>288299016
This, there's only so much the gods will let people get away with in their little garden for humans with mana.
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>>288298702
The women thing is hard since when they are pregnant the spouse who got them pregnant has to act as a subsitute aub. Taking care of foundation and everything. So their spouses can only be aub candidates. If you marry an archnoble you can't be an aub since he can't do the archduke's sub job. So egg or rozemyne can't just take archnobles as spouses like male aubs can.

Obviously Rozemyne simply can't because of her devouvering status where she is colored easily. She would lose the foundation. And this is not mentioning the obvious mana range where she can sense Ferdinand and some old royals who married outside and surivied the civil war, which means only Ferdinand can get her a kid. So she does not have that option, but female aubs can have more husbands.
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>>288298979
>tyranny
Society exists because of nobles. Anyone below them simply helped with the menial tasks.
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>>288298593
It's been a while but Myne get a lot of trombe wood because it doesn't sell.
As for nobles, I think a trombe of the size they usually encounter just get reduced to ashes.
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>>288297279
she says the h-word all the time
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>>288298973
well yeah but after that I thought people were chill
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>>288299146
I'm assuming that like how myne asked for the softwood back then, the rozemyne workshop is now querying the soldiers/traders for trombe softwood
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>>288299046
I kind of figured that at least Eglantine might be encouraged to get another consort even if its like 99% for political reasons and they just want to up their standing with the sovereignty, though yeah, the whole 'having kids' bit kind of doesn't work when its the ruler themselves needing to do the birthing.
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>>288299187
> I thought people were chill
99% of people still don't know about it
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>>288299187
RM workshop is cool with it because they have the situation under control: she make sure to not put too much mana into tau fruits but they still have a dozen of knife armed boys ready to kill it asap.
>>288299208
That was the aftermath of the local soldiers destroying a trombe that grew up too much, the normal reaction to finding one is immediate destruction, it's really not something you try to grow yourself and harvest for material and in fact, most people would prefer if they didn't had to deal with a trombe at all.
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>>288299046
Ah right, forgot Roz is only really compatible mana-wise with Ferdie at this point. Hopefully she won't go crazy overboard with magicking up her kids power while its growing.
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>>288299313
I am pretty sure the duchies will be less annoying after knowing the zent chair is not hereditary anymore. And zent job is really about communicating with the gods and taking care of the royal academy(taking care of the place closest to the gods). Teachers are basically retainers since the zent is never supposed to take care of a duchy like soveregnity. But just be the main person in the country making sure the aubs do their job properly, prepare the next genration so they can do their job properly. Like the aub candidate class is supposed to be led by the zent and there you can see who has the potential to take over their parents duchy.

I doubt egg will have that many annyoing porposals after the aubs learn what being a zent actually entails.
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>>288299496
But all the things you said is what being Zent has always been about. It's not about what the job entails, but the fact that it makes you the most powerful person in the country. Being a Zent's spouse comes with incomparable amounts of power and influence, so why would anything ever change?
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>>288296149
>>288296212
It's because the whole family is bound by magic contract.
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>>288299362
>she make sure to not put too much mana into tau fruits but they still have a dozen of knife armed boys ready to kill it asap
so what you're saying is, only indentured labor makes it possible desu ne? wakarimasu.
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>>288299313
>Eglantine and her favorite new consort, Rozemyne
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>>288299631
Would Ferdinand and Anastasius just circle each other like angry dogs at that point?

Honestly its kind of funny in retrospect that both Elgantine and Rozemyne ended up with weird yandere husbands. Ewigeliebe's influence is all encompassing, I guess.
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Last and I will adopt Tuuli!
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>>288276044
When will the book Ferdinand deemed as erotica that Rozemyne wrote based on a princess story from earth make a comeback? she hid it instead of burn it.
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>>288299631
Hot
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>>288287080
>all of the retard commoner orphans that come out of myne's sweatshop have archnoble attendant level grace, on top of practical skills (carpentry, paper making, printing, merchantry, etc)
truly hilarious
so fucking funny when later on nobles begin visiting the temple and realizing their noble-educated children are being mogged by literal commoners raised by a gremlin
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>>288276771
Lol, what? In Bookworm, it's not just mana or lack thereof; nobles are then stratified by mana capacity. If you get born a 10mp pleb, then the higher your parents rank, the more likely they will just kill you in your crib outright because a feystone you leave behind is worth much more than a 10mp plebeian, and worse - if they're med- or archnobles, then breeding a 10mp pleb is an unimaginable shame. The lowest of them all, laynobles, can train mana compression for years and the best they can achieve is the lowest strata of mednobles... and so on. The chasm between the three noble tiers is only superficially less than between commoners and nobles. It is a very broad spectrum scale, and there is even more division here - since there are 25, no, 21, no, 23 duchies, and they also have a hierarchy, then even if you simplify that hierarchy to just three tiers you could say there's even MORE hierarchy.
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>>288276839
No. They are not. They are bugs, tolerated for being somewhat useful, nothing more. In Yoghurtland, NOTHING grows or lives without mana, and mana is what nobles have, not commoners. No mana, like in the 'abandoned' dutchies that got erased by the war, like Werkestock, and no matter how hard even the local landed nobles (giebes) work, the commoners and everyone else will starve because everything depends on the mana billionaires, i.e. the dutchy's Aub and his family.
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>>288281732
Are you dumb?

The gods connect the world gates to worlds where mana wielders are in need and might want to flee, not to "worlds without mana".

Also, nobody said commoners don't have ANY mana - they do, just so flipping little that to muster enough mana to sign a magical contract, they have to literally use their blood. And spontaneous mutations, like all those with Devouring, including protag herself, still happen.

Lanzenave is a country that used its ruling family girls as breeding sows in a pigsty called Adalgisa villa, solely for the purpose of murdering the children for their feystones. They literally go on a murder spree, hunting people to kill for feystones in Ahrensbach. Sure, Yoghurtland commoners don't have much mana, but they still have mana organs and might turn into a very low quality feystone when killed, so for Lanzenave, the natural approach would be to wholeasale genocide Yoghurtland commoners immediately on arrival.

Your proposal is equivalent to suggesting Jews would massively improve their lives if they immigrated to Adolf Hitler's reich. Although... there is a subset of, well, people, who would suggest that Myne engaging in that would be "more based"...
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>>288307269
Lanzenave is sacrificing three girls per generation to be allowed one stappe-wielder to maintain their ivory buildings and foundations.
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>>288287080
>>288304948
main should let gilberta/plantain and other companies sign apprentice and work contracts with grey priests to let them become normal people with normal jobs. after workshop education they'd be decent craftsmen and have very high level noble-facing manners.
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>>288307562
I'm not sure there's a surplus of enough grey priests to let them leave and also remember when they go to the temple they get tied to it for life unless they get bought
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>>288282846
Remember that Gods, whenever one of the Country Gates is open, connect it to a world that has mana users in need of refuge. However, their purpose is to get more mana users to immigrate to Yoghurtland, not the other way round. Lanzenave's royal family have gone there from Yoghurtland, defying will of the gods, and by the time of the novel end, they treat themselves, and are treated by the natives at large, as nothing more than source of feystones. Considering Lanzenave has effective anti-mana technologies, they will likely die out sooner than later... If a Zent decides for gates like the one to Bosgeiz to stay reopened, it's not guaranteed to still open to Bosgeiz. Same with Lanzenave, if by the time the gate is reopened Lanzenave has no significant number of mana wielders, that gate will open to another world instead.
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>>288307620
>when they go to the temple they get tied to it for life unless they get bought
well that is the first thing to change about it. gods won't be mad, nobles wouldn't even register heimin life nuances like that, so only blue priests would be mad and blue priests are like apes (maybe not ants like heimins) to nobles so it doesn't matter 'that' much what they think.
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>>288283810
No. You don't understand the setting. Yoghurtland "forgot" its faith at large, and obtaining protections from Gods was central to it because the more protections an individual has, the more efficiently they can use their mana. All nobles at that point in story, are just relying on their inborn elements, and getting the "mandatory" protection from cardinal gods for each element, with only Dunkelfelger getting some subordinate god protections due to them being all Ditter junkies. It's not "overestimating the mana", its "underestimating how far the decline has gone". In historic Yoghurtland, all these magitools and spells were easy because getting more efficiency by xp-mining protections was the norm. Also, people were getting their glowsticks at graduation, making them fit for their grownup mana capacity and efficiency; in current Yoghurtland they do so at the very start of school, permanently gimping themselves for life.
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>>288286748
What child abuse?
It's pure behavioral education.
When you educate your puppy to not shit on your carpet, you put its nose in the shit it made so it knows what it done bad, then give it a slap for it to know what it's done bad, then you put it to the sandbox along the shit for it to get better idea.
If you fail this, your dog will forever shit on your carpet.
Human children are the same, the logic capacity and sense responsibility that allow for standard education arrive in maybe early teens. Before that, it's discipline or bust.
Much of current problems in the west stem form the idiocy of liberals that honestly believe they can logically explain and argue with a toddler, or that expensive prison term magically has greater chance of teaching a criminal they've done wrong than public flogging. Hence, they waste money and crime levels and budget expenses only rise.
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>>288307908
There's also the reduced noble population after the Civil War and the prominent decline in magic and magitech which we can see from the difference between the mana potions the royals use vs the stuff Ferdi makes to drink like candy
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>>288287054
She was never a kid. She is a 22 thrown into 5yr old body. By now, if I'm not mistaken, she is 25, in a physically 8yr old body. She was first baptized as 7yr old, as is custom, then she got baptized again as a noble, and she was 8 at that time.
Yes, she is older than Ferdinand, aka Friday yes, Quinta is lating for "the fifth" and Terza is latin for "the third"
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>>288287119
Oh, look! Lady Rozemynes eyes! The wrath of the Saint shall lay low all the infidels who dare oppose or displease her! Lady Rozemyne be blessed!
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>>288291278
>>288291447
It is brought up, in the chapters about intrusion of the feybeast from Old Werkestock, and in explanations on noble secret/private rooms.

These rooms are registered and created with owner's mana. You can only register someone to enter, or allow someone else to enter (and letting someone in is a big no-no among nobles even for married couples) when the owner is present and alive.

Re-registering hidden/private room is like a minor entzwikeln - everything inside turns to white sand in the process, so you can't kill or jail someone, then force your way in.

And nobles who get name-sworn and have namestones, tend to store those stones in those very rooms most of the time. Sure, you need the stone to actually issue an order, but no name-sworn would ever go as far as provoke their lord to do so, and the lord can issue certain specific orders at leisure, when relaxing in their room. The possibility alone makes people obey most of the time though, not the orders themselves.

Veronica's collection of namestones is likely in her private/hidden room, and there's hardly a way to get in there without her cooperation... perhaps if you pumped her full of Trug for months, but that route seems closed as other than Lanzenave, there seems to be no awareness of where to even look for Trug.
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>>288292491
Literally impossible.
Everyone who has noble-level mana and goes into the furthest hall, comes back with gods-given shtappe, no matter what. It's just it is once-in-a-lifetime process, so initially, Yoghurtland's noble class knew to wait for the coming of age, results of the dedication rituals with gradual improvement in number of blessings as young noble continued to pray, and the results of learning compression on mana capacity. If you are 8, and buy a dildo that matches your pussy at that age, how much fun is that dildo gonna be worth after you get your growth spurt and are 20? The sooner you get your shtappe, the more you gimp yourself. Rozemyne is an exception, because she is already omni-elemental, and already has a massive capacity when she gets hers, and even then she still struggles after year 3 and the dedication ceremony when she gets her divine protections and her mana usage efficiency skyrockets. She is only saved by the fact that the Zent Shrine Circling resets and reinforces her shtappe - but doing this ritual requires being omnielemental and having a shtappe. So third prince for example can't do it because he wasn't omnielemental when he sneaked to get his shtappe, and now he's forever gimped with subpar stick; even worse - the harder he works, the more his mana efficiency improves, the more protections he prayer-mines, the WORSE he will be, because he will have more mana, better efficiency, and even less control due to subpar shtappe.
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>>288307562
>>288307620

She does end up doing this, theres the grey priest that buys his own freedom and works for one of benno's companies and gets a wife
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>>288307562
>>288307620
>>288307680
https://ascendance-of-a-bookworm.fandom.com/wiki/Volk
as you can see here the main problem is the fact that her grey priests are so well trained that a giebe couldn't even afford a single one, and the priest + his wife had to work an entire year to make enough paper to afford his freedom (and that still wasn't really enough, myne basically gave a discount)
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>>288309457
stappes can be broken, restrained, whatever, if they misbehave, so it's a non factor in talking about failing to become a noble.
another criterion is having enough mana to fill your mount orb, which is a social issue noted in the WN and specifically tied to having filled up your big college fund crystal. this also causes someone to flunk their chance at becoming a noble.
so what exactly are you calling impossible, when it's not hard to engineer an erosion of low noble gruaduates, given my examples?
>>288309492 >>288309631
>and the priest + his wife had to work an entire year to make enough paper to afford his freedom
that is not a lot of work at all. he got years of care at the temple for some menial child work. even 2 years, even 3 would be fair.
roman soldiers got citizenship and land only after a full military career of like 20 years.
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>>288295752
Why would anything change?

Mynes' printing will first focus on stuff like picture bible, love stories, and the ditter books. In other words, on reviving the religion.

Printing or no, nothing changes the fact that anyone with more mana than you can go Darth Vader on you and crush you to death, and mana is the foundation of all life.

Any struggle is completely pointless. "Ye who enter, abandon all hope".
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>>288308358
okay, pedo.
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>>288308203
Wow, I hope you'll never have a pet or child.
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>>288297090
Dirk ends up with an above average amount of mana, more than many noble born orphans. I think he was described straight up as mednoble level.
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>>288295839
No, it does not.
And it's heavily implied it is already overpopulated.
Most of the lower city HAS "original" magic ivory buildings 2-3 story high, and then the commoners bred so much that by now all of these buildings have several more stories added on top, built the commoner way from wood.

Settling outside isn't an option because there's feybeasts and feyplants, and many are dangerous, for example Wolfaniels, often kept as pets by nobles, are sorta-dogs that attack and try to eat anything that moves and has less mana than them; not a problem for any noble, but commoners? Nah. And current noble population is diminished while territory is a constant, so creating more provinces and more giebes to offload commoners to isn't an option. Sure, there are the "abandoned dutchies", but these remain Aub-less, and are slowly starving for mana... even winning greater dutchies like Ahrensbach are going the same way simply because their Aub is more retarded than others. In an era of a Grutrisheit-less clown-Zent who can't redraw borders or even merely rebuild foundations of the defeated dutchies, this is a crisis.
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>>288308477
Shut up, Hartmut.
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>>288309873
Lol okay retarded liberal.
Interesting that libtards always object to mental age and go for physical/body age when discussing reincarnation stories (retarded as this is, since reincarnation isn't a thing - unless you are willing to believe I'm actually the second coming of Elvis).
But when it's their retarded spoiled kid going before a court for crashing their mama-provided car while drunk and killing some hapless bystanders, they always file for psychological evaluation so that they can claim their 22 years old's "mental age" is just 9, so "he can't go to jail".
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>>288309873
shut up veronica
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Mayne justo forget her earth family? Is amazing how she cry about the new but the old never ever mentioned.

Also she is a university girl, so she have sexual dessires?
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>>288310887
>>288311057
>bla bla i want to rape a child
Okay, kill yourself.
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>>288311123
She never really had sexual desires even in earth due to being a book autist, and here she's no different until the very late volumes. Also, did you already forget S2 last episode? when Ferdinand uses the memory spy magic tool on her she ends up remembering about her earth mother and becomes an emotional mess because she was trying not to think about her now that she can't ever go back to earth.
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>>288311141
okay then Rudeus from Mushoku Tensei is also a child so there's nothing wrong with him going after girls his biological age right? now dance for me clown I want to laugh at your mental gymnastics
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>>288311246
lol, using a manga that has literal adult woman who have the bodies of children to fullfil some kind of pedo dream is not helping your case.
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>>288311123
I'm not sure she wasn't a virgin on Earth. It's unlikely she will have any sexual urges until puberty in her new body.
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>>288310887
But then if it's real it's logical to assume everyone is reincarnated which makes it a moot point and we are back to her being a little girl, it's science.
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>>288311207
Yet she is demanding physical stimulation from men who can't refuse her, she is just too retarded to know what she wants.
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>>288311246
Correct.
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>>288307641
Setting sounds like a 'we need to kill the gods' type. Max level assholes, intent of lying to and kidnapping extraterrestrials.
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Reminder that some of the noble women still haven’t woken up after passing out at the Ferdinand concert.
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>>288298127
All systems degrade and need competition and strife to keep going. This is true for anything, even governments like we see from the Purge.
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>>288307269
i see
I didn't realise lanzenave likes feystones that much. I thought they are on the verge of moving on from magic altogether and, due to being a mundane society, would have a more liberal socity that would be open to refugees.
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>>288307562
I think Gil gets purchased by the Plantin company 10 years after the end of the story
not quite the same or a the scale you describe though
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>>288307641
interesting
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>>288308035
that is cool but I'm not sure it's sensible to visually differentiate them like that
it could reinforce internal differences
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>>288286748
it's not consolation but in a season 2 side story when lutz is taking the greys to the forest, a grey priest comments on corporal punishment being doled out to an apprentice.
Lutz responds that it's fine; some people only respond/learn through physical violence.
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>>288312769
just like real life.
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>>288309816
I was hoping for a minor change. Maybe the commoner class gets longer class memory or they form tighter links with other groups of commoners. Or maybe a Shakespeare comes around and makes popular yet thought-provoking plays.
darth vader can't kill every single commoner.
If all the commoners decide to, i dunno, start praying or make a tulip bubble then the nobles can't really do much. Nor is it really worth action since it's a minor thing.
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>>288310887
>Replying to bait with anything more than 2 words
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>>288310086
The food situation in Ehrenfest seems alright, so I'm not sure if it's crisis there. I agree it would be a crisis for losing territories though.
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>>288311123
myne's character development in part 1 is learning to appreciate things other than books
Although she appreciates her earth mom, she didn't embrace that emotional connection with her earth mom like she did effa.
Hence why she appeals to Effa far more often than Urano's mother.
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>>288312477
true
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>>288312735
they would have slightly less duties in winter and participate in mana offerings instead. maybe they could be protected from being sold as well to secure mana for the province.
i think giving them a blue tint, or a sky blue element on their sash would be a good way to make 'losing' them harder, management wise.
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They'd have been enganged since before her body growth.
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>>288313127
eh i think wilma/orphanage director/manager having a register of mana greys is sufficient
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>>288313216
They were
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>>288302996
Never, Rozemyne just detests the idea of destroying books so she hid it. It'd still be considered porn to this day.
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>>288309789
> that is not a lot of work at all.
iirc it wasn't that simple, the giebe (basically the ruler of that smaller province) had had to pay a good chunk of the fee himself, too, and that would've only happened in a place like Illgner where the class divide between nobility is (relatively) much less of a problem, and the people there are all surprisingly casual and friendly with the giebe.
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Tuuli is extremely cute.
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ok lutz.
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>>288315030
lutz is a cuck who is still into myne, tuuli is a consolation prize wife
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>>288315043
tuuli is also a cuck, so they're perfect together
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>>288315043
lutz just knows an age and body gap is fucking sexy, like any immortal vampire/demon/elf or kimono lolibaba enjoyer
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>>288315043
So is Wilfried and Bento
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>>288315150
wouldn't-read-fried deserves everything that happened to him
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>>288315043
Tuuli is apparently a canon bombshell beauty so he could absolutely do worse on the rebound than that.
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Benno was supposed to marry Karin...
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>>288315204
And now he uses flowery goddess metaphors to describe his feelings for a little girl.
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>>288315163
Honestly I found his descent back in to bratty-ness in part 5 kind of jarring. The whole ivory tower thing seemed to humble him severely, as did the whole 'lets switch jobs for a day' thing he did with Rozemyne.

Yet in part 5 he just goes right back to that selfish, naïve mindset of blaming Rozemyne for anything going wrong in his life, saying she 'has it easy' (despite her workload just being doubled due to Ferdinand leaving) and that she should be focusing more on propping him up.

Like, I know his retainers were talking shit to him, but given how he's already been through an incident where retainers/people he trusted betrayed him with kind intentions, plus the fact that he KNOWS Rozemyne doesn't remotely want to become aub, you'd think he'd put less weight in their words and trust Rozemyne a bit more, especially given she already saved his ass once already.
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>>288315272
>jobs
hope they do it extra well in the show. it's a great chapter.



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