What's a 10/10 anime that gets zero attention on /a/? For me, it has to be Nana. It's a shame that the manga has been on "hiatus" for 17 years and will likely never be finished, but the 2006 anime really is a masterpiece.
Probably because the show is targeted towards women
>women fucking tons of men>women being women>woe is me4/10 at best
>>288308153>>288308174If you dislike Shojo and Josei you're a normalfag. Go back to your 1000th shonen action slop.
>>288308309Shojo and Josei are for normalfags, you're trying too hard to fit in bud.
>>288308122because it's old, and the manga hasn't had a new chapter in 17 years just like you literally saidanybody who isn't a newfag on /a/ has already talked about it, there's nothing new to say>>288308309you're not cool and unique for liking highly lauded classics you fucking retardI bet your next thread will be about how Monster is a hidden gem
>>288308122>zero attention I keep seeing 'nana nana' in the catalog all the time x_x
>>288308122Brigadoonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CszEg9oZl4
>>288308122Is this yuri?
>>288309497no it's "sex is the only unit of value I understand" women
>>288309472Interesting, I've never heard of that. What's it about?>>288309497They obviously have feelings for each other but they never actually get together.
>>288308122Kokoro Toshokanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkIHUtey_TI
>>288309497No it's modern women acting like modern women
>>288308122/a/ has been infested by /r9k/ faggots, you can't talk about it without they swarming in.
>>288308122>zero attention on /a/?Everyone whos not a giant newnigger has watched that a decade+ ago.
>>288310080>What's it about?suffering. Lots of it.
>>288308122any good anime.
>>288308122Actual foidslop. Worth watching to understand how the foid brain operates.
>>288312303I'm so hecking cynical, ain't i cool fellow oldfags??
>>288308122Princess Tutuhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-hwl7rrKD0
>>288308122All kurozuka threads were made by me
>>288308122There's too many because people basically refuse to watch old anime unless it's part of an ongoing franchise or whatever.
>>288308122I tried to watch this show but if you have even one testicle it's impossible to not loath the MC by the 2nd episode.
>>288314573Cant relate, I watch whatever comes to mind
>>288312384I know how it works which is why i shan't be watching. I get enough of that in my Tomino robot cartoons.
>>288308309/a/nons who pretend to like shoujo are so funny, they either beg for validation for looking the most basic bitch popular shit like maid-sama or precure, or they try to pass off any feMC bocchi the witch slop as shoujo
Nana is fucking ugly. The anime is ugly. The art is ugly. The animation is middling. I can't really speak to how now aged millenial nip women liked the manga but the actual anime is trash.
>>288315658>or they try to pass off any feMC bocchi the witch slop as shoujoSilent Witch is published in B's Log Comic. How is it not a shoujo?
>>288308122Tokyo Godfathershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5DHRYAeCss
>>288316186because that magazine is for adaptations of BL games and otome narou and it's not at all shoujo as we established at the time you idiot
Nana is weird. It's a strange outlier in the world of anime/manga, and it seems to have a unique dedicated fanbase for this reason.For one, it's much more squarely dedicated at teenage girls as a target demographic than anything else I can think of. It's too 'adult' for the kinds of girls who'd normally read regular shoujo and aren't interested n the complex, messy relationship drama it tries to do. But at the same time it seems to have a very teenage perspective on adulthood, where it almost seems to fetishise being able to do basic things like go out and smoke and drink, and on top of this focuses on characters who are decidedly immature, especially the protagonist who has an obviously much lower mental age than her actual one. Because of this it's generally insufferable to watch for people who are older and more mature than the characters and can see that most of the drama results from them not being able to commit to even basic responsibilities or think about the effects of their actions.A huge thing that also seems to sell it to a lot of people (and this seems to be a good part of the appeal for both genders) is the "inner city band scene vibe" that it pulls off. That seems to be one thing that really hooks people who'd otherwise not be into shoujoish drama like this.>>288308608>I bet your next thread will be about how Monster is a hidden gemNana really is the closest thing to a shoujo equivalent of Monster. Especially in how it gives off the appearance of something radically more mature than other things in the same basket, but is significantly much more childish than it must seem to many people.
>>288316257It was Chirstmas streamed a few years ago.
>>288308309The only Josei manga worth reading is the one with the hag fox draining her human she's definitely not in love with.
>>288316317>otome narouClose enough
>>288316659no, idiot, we went over that too
>>288308174Hachico has only gotten plapped by three people total, as far as the viewer knows. Anything more than that is speculationNana has oneitis for her bandhusbando.You're gay
>>288316817>Hachico has only gotten plapped by three peopleAnd you just sat there and watched.
"Joseikino forgotten by /a/" thread?Noda is a pure cinnamon roll and needs to be protected.
>>288308122Samurai 7https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRJ8autOhV8
>>288308309Aren't shoujo and josei basically soap opera but animated? How is that not normalfaggotry?
>>288308174Normal human beings have sex.
>all the people shitting on Nana/a/ is truly a bunch of contrarian retards.
>>288316960why did katsuhiro do it
>>288316698Who's we?
>>288316817>Hachico has only gotten plapped by three people total, as far as the viewer knows.They way she goes about doing this is what makes her so absolutely slutty though. She starts off as a homewrecker, fucking a married dude while in highschool, then clings like a puppy to another dude who's too terrified to break up with her given her attitude even after finding a girl much more appropriate for him, then starts having one night stands with the guy who knocks her up because she can't be assed to use any protection at all, while letting some other cuck simp over her.Bodycount isn't capturing how little regard she has for how she gets into and deals with her relationships.
>>288316890>zoom zoom is scared of sex scenes in media
>>288317042Sounds based.
>/a/ doesn't like NanaThis board is just shonen tourists now ain't itWe used to be a real board
>>288317127I get mad when women have sex because I have none.
>>288317042Men fantasize about raping women.
>>288317015>>288317127>You have to like THIS particular shoujoslop or you're no better than a dubbed shounen tardYou people are delusional. I can see why someone might get attached to Nana or see it as something special, even as something that 'speaks to them' or whatever, but it is a very soapy, girly thing that isn't some high watermark for quality that you could rightly judge someone for not appreciating.
>>288317216You're probably the type of fag who thought Chainsaw Man or Attack on Titan were a "high watermark for quality" until they shat themselves
>>288317177women write fiction about women being raped by men much more often than men do it
Because we already discussed Nana when it was relevantand newfags dont care about it
>>288317288This argument doesn't really hold water given how much this board continues jerking off Eva and making threads about it, but then again I don't think Nana aged that well
>>288308122Dokuro-chanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUhviSDW63Y
>>288317333Nana was realeased then Ended both the manga and the animeNGE is still getting shit out every few year that rekindels the discussion
>>288308122Paradise Kiss
>>288317350>Nana was realeased then Endedlol
>>288316890She's not my waifu so I dont give a fuck
>>288317177>*womenftfy bro
>rec thread>still upI hate you motherfuckers so goddamn much
>>288316817>The married dude she fucked>Shoji>Nobu>TakumiThat's at least 4 we know
>>288314781No one who's had sex with a woman without needing to pay for it has ever watched this and hated Hachiko by the second episode.
>>288316317Which is a demographic largely aimed at girls. That's what shoujo is, anon. Hell a ton of BL is near the girls' section
>>288316986No? Unless you think takane and hana, the first osomatsu-san manga, or crayon kingdom are soaps
>it almost seems to fetishise being able to do basic things like go out and smoke and drinkThat's because smoking and drinking and band stuff were considered cool when it was made. And overall related to counter-culture that the punk bands exist in.>it's generally insufferable to watch for people who are older and more mature than the characters and can see that most of the drama results from them not being able to commit to even basic responsibilitiesIt's only insufferable because you hoped them to be better.Nana is reality-affirming.Nobuo treats Hachi based on his loser idealism and loses. Takumi treats Hachi as the kind of woman she is and handles things in a way that works. Idealists hate this because they don't like how the reality is.It's also quite nuanced and shows different kind of possible relationships like Jun and her boyfriend being kinda stable but feeling more like business acquaintances.
>>288316520>shoujo equivalent of Monsteris this real? hard skip for me then
>>288317177Woman, stop projecting yourself onto males.
>>288317042And then a man finally takes responsibility for her (which she is incapable of) and the viewers mistake him for a villain. It's a masterpiece flirting with uncomfortable realities, challenging the fantasies that we still (and even more increasingly) live in today.
>>288322251>That's because smoking and drinking and band stuff were considered cool when it was made.To be clear, I'm pointing out something fairly specific that it does. It's not that it portrays smoking etc. or makes the characters look good doing it, i.e. Cowboy Bebop makes Spike look really cool when he lights up, and that is something that defines that character's style, and I like and am fine with that.But I don't consider what Bebop does to 'fetishise' smoking. It's the way Nana will do stuff like specifically have a shot/panel that deliberately lingers on a close up of a packet of cigarettes, making out like it's some of object of desire itself that's special enough to warrant this, like a shoujo would ordinarily portray stuff like fashionably cool clothing, that feels off to me. What I'm getting as is that, I feel like if you already are of age, and smoke or hang around people who do, something feels odd and naive about this, and what Nana does seems to feel less like portraying stuff the characters do naturally, or in a way that looks authentically cool, and more like creating fetish objects out of things that would be forbidden, and desirable, to a teenaged audience. This is just a hangup I with with it specifically, and I find it 'telling' of what kind of series this is, though I don't even have an issue with people deciding to smoke if they understand what they're doing.>It's only insufferable because you hoped them to be better.I'm quite willing to watch interesting series about heavily flawed characters. Nana's problem I find is that I can only find Hachi moping on episode after episode about her self made problems so interesting. There is nuance and a certain degree of depth to it all, and style, which is why I keep coming back to it every so often, but when I do I quickly see why I found most of it a slog to get though, and couldn't honestly begrudge anyone for simply hating it regardless of what merits it might offer.
>>288308122>gets zero attentionAnon, it's been 20 years. We've talked the show to death.
>>288316520well, they are teens, of course they are dumb. adults like it because they can understand them
>>288322963Isn't the purpose of punk subculture kinda just doing everything that you shouldn't?Also there's two levels of this: a "neutral" depiction of punk culture (smoking = bad but show it because the characters are punk), or the depiction itself can be doused with the culture (ie. the show "thinks" smoking is cool and depicts it as cool). Yeah, Nana is somewhat doused in the culture as well. And to me there's nothing wrong with that. Not all media needs to be an instruction manual. Think for yourself.>I can only find Hachi moping on episode after episode about her self made problems so interestingI felt it was interesting, amusing, emotional and illuminating experience>I found most of it a slog to get thoughI actually like the detailed storytelling. It allows building atmosphere and painting a dramatic arc. Though I remember some parts feeling a bit slow and I can see it being slow compared to modern anime. Still 5x more engaging than any book I've been forced to read in school, so I guess it's relative.
>>288308309Nana was the only manga I saw a nip girl reading while riding a train in Japan.
>>288308122Ergo Proxyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAXrRWLKzko
>>288316960Good show yeah. Was part of the initial Toonami revival iirc
>>288308122Seraphim Call is quite high concept
>>288314314based.
>>288321097How many times do we have to keep litigating this? You all wouldn't have to play the "shoujo means girl and otome is a kind of girl, right?" game if you liked actual textbook shoujo. Multiple real shoujo aired last season, and the overwhelming response, such that anyone actually watched them, was utter bewilderment at the motivations of any of the characters. You all are completely alienated when a series actually appeals to the sensibilities of real women. The best you can handle is a LaLa comedy but even then you piss and shit yourselves when MC falls for the wealthy rapechad love interest
>>288308122Cosplay Complex. It's only 3 episodes long but it's fun.
>>288323239>Isn't the purpose of punk subculture kinda just doing everything that you shouldn't?You're not understanding what I'm saying. I'm not saying "this is punk, and that involves doing naughty things, and I disapprove", I'm saying "instead of seeing things portrayed in a style that feels actually cool and punk, I'm seeing something that is only trying to look cool in a way that would appeal to 14 year old Japanese girls, but comes off as lame and tryhard to me".>>288322593>And then a man finally takes responsibility for her (which she is incapable of) and the viewers mistake him for a villain.My take on this is that the two basically deserve each other, they're both irresponsible, indulgent and impulsive, and are more of less well matched as a couple of fuckbuddies forced to take responsibility for each other. On top of this, it's great for everyone else who'd wanted either of them beforehand for them to be taken, because they each 'save' everyone else from the horrible reality that dealing with either of them would be for any other, as a perfect match of toxic fuckups who complete each other. It sounds romantic when I put it like that, but I genuinely hate both of them and would wish them to get on with their lives however they can as long as it means they don't screw up anyone else's.
>>288317042I mean, there's a reason that they call her Hachiko. She acts like a dumb dog.
>>288308122Kaijihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7myzgxz9nI&list=RDj7myzgxz9nI
>>288321118There's zero difference between shoujo/josei and shit like 50 shades of gray, it's the most normalfag shit imaginable.
>>288308122>>288316917I liked both of these and also Honey and Clover
>>288316917I remember this having some good orchestra stuff similar to Hibike Euphonium, and good slow burn romance, but otherwise a bit bland/ugly and boring, though it's been too long time for me to remember properly
no season 3-gatsu no lion (the best anime ever made)
>>288308122Strike Witcheshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf3pBFHKBdk
>>288308122Kimi ni Todokehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN8Rlp3Oi94
>>288329969>is called Shota>is a normal sized teenagerthis is false advertising
>>288308122>It's a shame that the manga has been on "hiatus" for 17 years and will likely never be finishedis it still worth starting?
>>288330690you have time to catch up before it comes back at least
>>288318903What she did before she met you was her buisness
>>288330690Just watch the anime. The soundtrack is the best part and the manga doesn't have that.
