Yuri moms: The Pros and Cons.
Which yuri girls would be improved by smoking?
>>288318756Chubbiest
please post the updated list of every yuri anime ever
>>288318739Every single one of them.
>Rapes Saki's mouth while she's cryingSo "they" were right about Kanon, huh.
>>288318924She could never hide the rapestacy vibes, they just didn't know what they were looking at.
Do not let your daughter's crush yuri you.
TV anime "Rainy Night Moon" production is progressing smoothly!
>Yuri couple want baby>partner fucks your dad because she wants to feel closer to you and have a baby with a real connection to both of you>your wife is now technically also your stepmother, your baby is your siblingIs there a yuri manga that actually did something like this?
>>288318985You know artificial insemination is a thing, right? Don't be retarded, anon.
https://mangadex.org/chapter/afb2d90f-868d-46a3-bffc-a5ebb842e995Kimi ga Shinu made Koi wo ShitaiI Want to Love You Till Your Dying DayCh 39 Until the End
>>288318913What about Kaori? She would've died even faster.
>>288319296Shizuku would be fucking the imouto even faster too.
>>288319236based sniper saving the series
>>288319236Nintendo lawsuit incoming
>>288319135Yes but that wouldn't change who the semen came from if she does it so they both have an actual connection to the child
>>288319361eru a god
What yuri comes to your mind when you see this?
Everyone is afraid of that zenkowaschizo, even the pop up shop organizers. https://x.com/medicos_et_02/status/2058820365808435317
>>288318938when the fuck is this getting an update, it's been 7 months
>>288318739Botan
>>288319545Miyagi is doing her very best to be THE CUTEST so that Sendai-san will confess to her already.
>>288319626Everyone's so casual about trying tobacco in that manga
>>288319236Snipers are good for yuri
What happened to that one series that had the gyaru that liked the little sister that liked her big sister that liked older girls? I cant remember the name but it was pretty popular here at one point.
>>288318732Amamiya Setsu.jpg
Were Miyagi’s feet dusty and do they have fermenting smells under the toenails? I feel like these are very important details.
>>288319866Miyagi should take up ballet to fuck up her feet in order to own Sendai
>>288319765Keiyaku shimai? The manga in the op image?
>>288319866It’s Sendai’s favorite smell, it calms her down.
>>288318732>pros: hot as fuck when they seduce their daughers/get seduced>cons:
>>288319765幼馴染の異常可愛い妹ちゃん. It ended. The little sister gets over her big sister and makes it very obvious that the gyaru has a shot now, but it ends before committing to anything. At least there's a kiss at the end.
>>288320034Figured. Damn. Im guessing nothing happened with the big sister either then? I think she was chasing a married milf so I doubt it went anywhere.
https://x.com/teppei14207528/status/2058666883642212741
Miyagi is worse than, may Allah forgive me for uttering the name, Hougetsu.
>>288320065Right. Big sis didn't get any action either.
今回のFGF、まじ破壊力MAXだな
>>288320132>fgfFaggot friend?
>>288320142フレンドガールフレンド
>>288320092I think this indomitable fighter could become a good friend with Yoshimura Kana.
>>288318732
>>288293044Everyone knows girls just have cuter feet. It's only natural lesbians would be into them.
>>288320231Five seconds of the two minutes of new footage in the BD will be toddler Kaguya sucking on Iroha's breasts.
https://twitter.com/nhk_vtuberradio/status/2058835765589950854Billions must listen.
>>288320092teppei-sama correct as usual.
>>288319365Yes you retard, but maybe you can use your small brain why there is no yuri story with MC fucking a guy, Cheerful amnesia MC uses her brother's semen to.impregnate her wife.
>>288319592Imagine when the anime airs
https://twitter.com/mitsuhashi_tomo/status/2058792667430142223Would this not have flopped if it was released today?
Scummy gap daily>>288290748
>>288318732>yuri momsThe lesbians are breeding now.
>>288320390It flopped back then too lol. The truth is that "yuri theory" changed a lot from that time, nowadays no editor would blink with whatever tame shit she was trying to publish
>>288320518>It flopped back then tooThat's what he's saying
>>288320472Justice for the groomer lady
Vivio's mere existence as a character makes the desperate reluctance to just say it some of the most intellectually dishonest bullshit imaginable. Oh yeah, you know how it's totally normal and hetero for besties to adopt a child together. Fuck off.
>>288320536Yes, I am just saying it's not good enough regardless of when it's realized, the editor failed hard here.
>>288319866Sendai licks it clean, including the gunk in the toenails.
>>288319866Sendai licked the fungi inbetwen Miyagis toes and thats made her horny
>>288320390>yuri with strong womenPlenty of people would read that. There’s a good deal of action yuri around and people love a tomboy type character >the pitch was actually that they use a bunch of crazy sex toysWell that seems like a totally different thing that doesn’t necessitate “strong women” exactly. And I think it would get old fast without a really good overarching story
>>288319545ive never read such a onesided yuri
Sendai stole one of Miyagi's sock as a keepsake and uses it in her alone time.
Sendai rummaged through Miyagi’s trashcan to find one premium piece of toenail clipping with the richest smell… she keeps it near her pillow and can no longer fall asleep without it.
>>288319866Her feet are drawn especially clean and lewd after the foot licking starts. So I'd imagine she takes care of them after Sendai becomes a footfag.
>>288320739Compare this to when it all started
>>288319545Confessions for a Moron>Ayumu wants to show Hayami her wacky contraption>realizes too late that she’s in terrible shape to be pedaling a bike>”gotta… look cool… for her…”>”Woah that was fun! … are you ok?”
Miyagi is shit.
>>288320601>erase your daughter from the timelineNothing personal, heh
Damn my twitter timeline is nothing but Botan, Kaguya and Shuukura fanart
Still no yuri of two girls sniffing each other's canvas split-sole ballet slippers after dance recitals
>>288320992Fuck that's right. Does Vivio even exist in the new timeline? Even INNOCENTS managed to bullshit her into it as a not-Trunks.
Yuusha no Mago 29-30https://ww2.mangafreak.me/Read1_Yuusha_No_Mago_To_Maou_No_Musume_29Sorry but mangadex uploads stopped at chapter 20
>>288319545Toriko/Sorawo....
Did Miyagi いく when Sendai rubbed her wet pussy in part 142?
If the Otherside made yuri, what would it look like?
>>288321096idk but maybe she kita
>>288321103Like that episode in Flip Flappers
>>288321044It is still set in their JC years so no.Some version of StrikerS was expected to take place back when the Detonation/Refletion came out - the manga tie in has a StrikerS design of Nanoha in a flashforward panel - but with how vastly different Exceeds is, that is now in doubt. Especially that Exceeds incorporated elements of StrikerS already.In conclusion, Vivio is fucked.
>>288321103 ごきげんよう
>>288321150>Seven Arcs is willing to murder fictional children to keep the fictional women from being gay
>>288321221two succubi seducing two impressionable college students
>>288320601>>288320992>>288321044It really shows how much Vivio got in the way of deniability, from what I see even nips are very cynical of Nanoha themselves, you barely see any fanart even though a new manga is out and a new anime is coming.
>>288318936Rapists aren't Stacies. They are cowards who fear rejection so they force themselves on others.
Mai has good taste.
Erotic demon…
>>288321285They are kind of pissed that the new anime is more about pushing the nu BanG Dream seiyuus (half of dozen of them + ED spot robbed from Yukarin) than it is about Nanoha
Aniyome if Kuzushiro was based
>>288321285People who want mahou shoujo that are actually gay moved on to Mahoako a while ago unc
>>288321375Uuuh, what if one isn't a fan of rape?
>>288321351v9 spoiler
Sorry to inform anons, but your manga will be toilet paper from now on, at least it's on colorhttps://comic-walker.com/detail/KC_010238_S/episodes/KC_0102380000100011_E?episodeType=first
>>288321414There's already a Korean Bocchi webtoon. I'm glad Japan is finally starting to catch up.
Indie american comic adaptation of green when?
>>288321414these damn kids and their phones
>>288321351>dates both of her friends with the biggest tits>barely acknowledges the existence of the itty bitty titty committee Mai has a type
>>288321375These two are next in line for La Verita. Hopefully some time this year
>>288321444Funny enough Wataoshi actually has it's own webtoon adaptation made by the gooks
>>288321523I wonder if Matama's La Verita turns her into an even bigger slut
Kiss Me In The Dark Of Night 62-63https://kagane.org/series/019d5b65-d1d5-7152-b02d-7a967be3af7d/reader/019e5842-6a99-7217-b285-7d7daf6326bfSummer Trend 73https://kagane.org/series/019d5c64-0d4e-7cd8-a2a8-8136401ee138/reader/019e583b-db4d-7d2a-a1a6-d7e20e7e32db
Roka spin-off announcement any day now
>>288321526SOUL
>>288321574Chinks are media literacy masters
>>288321643F-fish…
>>288321643whoa whoa whoa
>>288321643>this_isnt_tuna.png
Hinako’s brother saving her from a predator.
>>288321723Can't believe the dumb fox stole her shoes just like that
>>288321375Most yurifags I've seen don't like Mahoako. They still prefer Madoka and Nanoha, whereas the Mahoako fans I've seen like it less for the yuri and more for the fanservice.
>>288321723Fox ate Hinako's shoes...
>>288321397That threesome wasn't rape though.
Utena will rape Sayo
>>288318732>Yuri moms: The Pros and ConsOne of the cons is that faggots shouldn't be around children
Iroha inherited her Asian parent methodology from the best.
>>288321765Series are decades old with no new content in forever. Most of the fan service in MahoAko is yuri fanservice anyway, so that’s a distinction without a difference.
How did Naoi so easily get Kurumi wrapped around her finger? Is Kurumi that easy for bad bitches?
Nauchi's yuribait CGDCT musical idol manga is ramping up yuri
>>288321765You can tell how this is true how they picked Chigusa to draw new merch for Mahoako, next they will pick another author who isn't popular with yurifags like Eku
>>288321987Kurumi is into bad girls, wasn't masturbating when Naoi beat her up enough for you?
>>288322055Sorry, but you don't have to be a slut to be into bad bitches.
Kurumi a shit
>>288321765This anon is posting from bizarro world
>>288322073You don't but it helps when you get horny from it
Naoi is such a downgrade over Kokoro
>>288322096It's just a variation of the same nonsense "Mahoako has no romance or couples" you see people who never read or watched the series say.
>>288322046Eku's art is great but it would feel out of place in a series about girls molesting each other.
>>288321361A sentiment shared by a lot of western fans, this one included. This IP is called Lyrical Nanoha. I watch for she.
Kurumi should be dating Isanuma if she loves Bad Girl so much.
Kurumi is a SuzuTori shipper
>>288322044is this scanned?
>>288322145Bold statement
>>288322161She loves Bad Girls not retarded girls
Why is Kaguya so ugly and annoying? Yachiyo is superior and makes for a better partner for Iroha
>>288322202>hottest bath art isn’t with any of her friends or girlfriends but with rape detective I really hope we get a throuple bath scene in volume 9
>>288322212I find the in-universe shipping scene to be quite interesting since most aren't aware that Kaguya and Yachiyo being the same person.>>288322202Youko a cute!
>>288322055It wasn’t sexual masturbation; she was simply relieving stress by engaging in a forbidden act, just like when she’d tried to steal an eraser. If anything, what turned Kurkumi on most at that moment was the thought that her mother might walk into the room. Naoі appeared in her fantasy unplanned and without consent.
>>288322380It reminds on /u/ there was an anon posting this but unironically
>>288322191Translated on /u not ts
>>288322380So you're saying that Kurumi non-consentually forced Naoi to rape her in her mind?
Ok, I am fucking tired of you fucking retards dismissing Nanoha and Fate and fucking lying they are trying to pretend they were never a thing, the new chapter is fucking outhttps://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/magical_girl_lyrical_nanoha_exceeds_ch11_3And I made a favor to you fucking imbeciles of comparing the importance they give to nanoha and fate interacting with each other for the first time in the whole manga to another het couple from the same manga no one gives a shit about, I kept the actual manga proportions too to make it easier, eat shit.
>>288322380Moreover, even the second time Kurumi didn't imagine herself with Naoi, she imagined Naoi with someone else.
>>288322583I’m one of Nanoha/Fate’s strongest defenders though? The ED plus the Vivid chapter where Nanoha says that Fate is her love is clear evidence of romantic feelings.
>>288322664Whoosh
Must have been the wind.
>>288322583>het coupleThey are father and daughter, you sicko.The daughter is also from a race of female only witches.
>>288322737>They are father and daughter, you sicko.>The daughter is also from a race of female only witches.This seems contradictory
Kawaranai…
>>288322746Nanoha creator was an orphan raised by some dude 10 years older than himHence the theme of non blood related family in Nanoha1. Nanoha's sister is adopted2. Nanoha and Fate form a family and adopted a daughter3. Fate is adopted4. Hayate and the knights are a non br family5. Fate adopting that lolishota het couple6. Subaru and her sister are adoptedHere Feely is adopted
>>288322583What subsisting on scraps for decades does to a motherfucker. You know there’s yuri with actual nutritional value now, right?
>>288322794I take it from your answer that he's her adoptive father then? That makes more sense.
But what's the most nutritious yuri?
>>288322883Delicious tomato salad.
>>288322847I am pretty sure he is mocking Nanoha anon
>>288322883Obviously Shinmai Shimai Futari Gohan
>>288322883https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1lxE3KHEQEjnANb2bELaQKiAAgu6Ju-s5-S8lKoYV5SY/mobilebasicDetailed NotesFood
>>288322746>>288322868The witches are all female and reproduce by reincarnation. The neighbor technologically advanced nation fear their power and found an excuse for war using cybertech soldiers who can resist mind control. Once the witches come down to last survivor all magic power is with her so she is unstoppable, so that guy in the picture is one of the top soldiers who made a secret deal with her, to raise and protect her daughter's life until adulthood in exchange for truce. In the course of this manga he failed his deal and had to try to kill the daughter, but luckily Nanoha and friends were here investigating a possible ongoing genocide and saved the day with power of friendship and big beam of optical energy weapon.
Timeskip ending
>>288320601They only adopted Vivio together because it was convenient for ther to have two mothers, bro. They only married because it was easier to get a house together that way, bro. It's not gay for women to have 3 hours of daily lesbian sex, they don't have to have feelings for each other that shit, bro.>>288321044>Fuck that's right. Does Vivio even exist in the new timeline? Even INNOCENTS managed to bullshit her into it as a not-Trunks.They made a whole manga whose only purpose was to sneak into the lore that an only-female race of mages could just magic babies with each other. We already know how Vivio is coming to be in this new timeline.
>>288323212Is this how lesbian witches reproduce?
>>288323212>Nanoha and Fate will BREED on-panelThat would be a level of based never before seen on this dimensional plane.
>>288322583Yeah, it's a pity that with each new manga or anime they insist on focusing on new characters, and often Nanoha and Fate don't get enough screen time, let alone with each other. It's clear that all the fans just want to see NanoFate be badass and gay, and maybe Hayate and the Wolkenritter too. Maybe it's time to get another writer to handle this franchise.>>288323384For all we know, in this scene >>288322583 with all that mana floating around, Fate may have accidentally impregnated Nanoha with Vivio when they fist-bumped.
Why do people still care about Nanoha? We have so much yuri now, we don't need to settle for "yuri" based off of het hentai games where you can fuck Nanoha in the spinoff.
>>288323497We are really going from this >>288323212 to some girl with a hunting rifle and a bunch of edgelords with katanas and shit tooThe power level is just too inconsistent and Nanoha ends up like a Superman figure that only comes in during the big moment to save the day
>>288323571You should never forget the classics that inspired a new generation of yuri authors
>>288323571Nanoha's het spinoff status hasn't been relevant in 30 years.
>>288323497>with all that mana floating around, Fate may have accidentally impregnated Nanoha with Vivio when they fist-bumped.Holy fucking LEWD.
>>288323571>>288323608fandisk is not canon even INNOCENT/Infinity Souls Nanoha have a different birthday to make sure you know they are different nanohasBasically>VN!Nanoha, with said fandisk>Mobage!Nanoha>Magical Girl Nanoha
I thought this was the yuri general, not the subtext general.
Well, let's see where this sports girlship will take them.https://www.sunday-webry.com/episode/12207421983745504350
>>288323657We can talk about both.
>>288323585>Nanoha ends up like a Superman figure that only comes in during the big moment to save the dayTo be absolutely fair, StrikerS had this going on to a lesser degree. It didn't come from nowhere. Granted, she was still a major focus in StrikerS. Subaru and Teana weren't pushing her out of the spotlight. >>288323608Seriously, Triangle Heart 3 is a quaint curiosity at best.
>>288323682
>>288323497>Yeah, it's a pity that with each new manga or anime they insist on focusing on new characters, and often Nanoha and Fate don't get enough screen time, let alone with each other. It's clear that all the fans just want to see NanoFate be badass and gay, and maybe Hayate and the Wolkenritter too. Maybe it's time to get another writer to handle this franchise.I genuinely don't understand why they're so desperate to push Nanoha out in favor of new protagonists. This isn't Gundam, the IP's title has her fucking name in it.
>>288323759Because the franchise is in a place where merch won't sell anymore but Nanoha is the only brand they still have, everything else flopped even harder, this is why they tried to reset Nanoha to the point where she was most popular, but unfortunately to them loli is also a dead market, so now they are trying with the new anime to pull a Symphogear where they keep bloating the cast with girls to see if they can get some waifufagging or shipping going.
Mahou Shoujo 201 44.5https://mangadex.org/chapter/c08f993f-ec90-40c9-aadc-7364ac196ac1
>>288323571>Why do people still care about Nanoha?Because Nanoha and Fate are great characters that a lot of people love. Because they are one of the classic yuri couples, the first season aired in 2004 along with Kannazuki no Miko and Mai Hime. Because Nanoha and Fate are one of the few couples to get married and start a family, and even if it's true that nowadays yuri adult couples are not that uncommon anymore, and even yuri marriages or yuri families have appeared in other recent anime, Nanoha and Fate will always have a place in the heart of old school anime fans.Also, because of mahou shoujo.
>>288323893The new cast areBad Girl seiyuu the King Record want to pushvsA bunch of new BanG Dream seiyuus Bushiroad want to pushThe characters are not what they are pushing. The seiyuus are. They already got their investment back when they shove the seiyuus in front of our face. Nanoha seiyuu didn't even get to sing the ED this time.
I find it hard to imagine Shiina topping Mimi.
>>288323657They go hand in hand
>>288324018>hand in handLewd
>>288323931>made it to volume 5 and countingAnime when?
Oh snap, hadn't realized we had a date for Arisaku, it's in less than three tomorrows.
>>288320132We already had this chapter when it was paywalled, anon had shared it. Did they share 11-1?
>>288323954Same thing nowadays
>>288323657>(...) yuri general, not the subtext general.Those are not mutually exclusive. Yuri, or any other element in a narrative, can be placed somewhere in a subtext spectrum, and when something is sufficiently explicit, people usually call it text. But, strictly speaking, nothing in a narrative can be known definitely no matter how explicitly is portrayed, so calling something "text" may be misleading. Text and subtext are still useful words to communicate how explicit something is, though, but they should not be confused with canon and not canon, that just refer to something being part of the narrative or not.
>>288324018>>288324045
Urasekai Picnic Ch. 89https://mangadex.org/chapter/92914e58-31b3-4876-98e4-0c5020f6cd48
>>288325132>insane armed lesbians kidnap a little girl
>>288324537Subtext and Text are just forms of presentation, in my opinion. I find it irritating when people use subtext to mean its not there, when the term means it necessarily is there just presented without being explicitly adressed which is wholly different. If its subtext, the author still put it there on purpose.Yes, I think a story can be better by an element being subtext rather than text.
>>288325354I agree, I prefer the terms "scraps"
>>288325435We know you do, P-kun
>>288325435You would get a narrative similar to a children's book if you try to make everything explicit, it will have to be something very short and small in scope. That sort of writing style is useless outside scientific papers.
>>288325354The issue is that we only have our interpretation, the author of course understand their intention with the text, so unless the author explains those to us, depending on your interpretation subtext may or not be there at all.
れな子が悪いんだよ
>>288325528I don't see how thats an issue. Thats true for every part of a work. The authorial intent behind the text can be interpreted too.
Kaho a shit
>>288325528But thats what I mean, something being subtext is not the same as something being ambigious. There can be clear subtext and ambigious text, the presentation is the only difference.Yes of course you can and will argue about what the author meant with X, and people have done that over every single text worth discussing.
>>288325521Then I guess the key to improving yuri is to make all relationships vague and teased at best since it's apparently so good and mature when things are just implied at best. Just make girls vaguely gay around each other (but not too much so waifufags can commission art of them taking dicks of course).
>>288320601Never heard of Three men and a baby? Same principle
>>288325528The opinions or intentions from the author, main writer, or more importantly, the right's holder, are irrelevant to the interpretation of the contents of any form of media. A work of art, or any narrative, stands by its own merits, devoid of any context. >>288325662Nobody implied that. But I'm an advocate for married lesbians adopting little girls together, and I think that should be a necessary part of any yuri.
>>288325132The cutest psychopath.
>>288325662Actually, yes, direct speaking is the enemy of art. But we’re mostly talking here not about art, but about a production line for catering to fetishes, so no.
>>288325577It's of course an issue when it comes to how to categorization, if you interpret the subtext as being romantic in nature, then it's a yuri work, if you don't then it's not a yuri work.>>288325625Subtext is subjective, there is no such thing as objective subtext, what you are calling clear subtext is just common sense, but common sense is not a rule, definitely not in fiction where the author has no real compromise with causality.
>>288325874I guess orgasm denial must be your fetish then.
>>288325920Text is subjective too. You may think something is text or the text means the thing you think it means, but thats your subjective view.
>>288325738So you surely would have zero issues with people using any minimal amount of deniability available to deny that a couple exists and they are heterosexual women interested in men instead.
>>288325920>you interpret the subtext as being romantic in nature, then it's a yuri work, if you don't then it's not a yuri work.This is based on the assumption a yuri work is defined as being a romance work, which certainly doesn't hold up to how the term was used when it was first popularised for how we use it nor is it particularly useful for the yuri reader who provably likes non-romance works and considers them yuri as well.The question always is, what do you gain from, narrowing down to this definition? Nothing. Actually you'd be excluding a significant chunk of formatove yuri works from being yjuri based on what I can only see as a form of insecurity over what you are allowed to like or how you can justify it to others.
>>288325920Categorization, in the context of stories, is nothing more than man-made boxes that we made to try to fit stories in, but they're far from perfect, the stories are what the stories are, and they won't necessarily always fit in our neat boxes.Also, everything in a narrative is subjective and up to interpretation, subtext is a gradient, and what we colloquially call "text" is part of it.>>288325977People are free to believe whatever they want. It's generally better to follow the preponderance of evidence, but we can't expect everybody to be equally reasonable.
MIO MIO'S PUSSY IS DELICIOUS!
>>288326119>preponderance of evidenceWhich is entirely subjective, because as you said, the author's intentions can be interpreted in many ways by the reader :^)
>>288319545On the real, would anon be interested in owning something like that? Looks a bit unsafe to me.
>>288325977Where does this idea come from you have any sort of power over what weird and absurd some people choose to say? People will do that no matter what, why would this affect someones opinion or stance on anything?
>>288326181Nobody implied it wasn't. It's the same in reality, even in a scientific context.
>>288325971Yes, actually you are absolutely correct, maintext and subtext are just language conventions we created because otherwise discussing text becomes an exercise of futility.>>288326036Wrong, note you are using the word romance, when I used the expression romantic in nature, meaning it's the understanding the intent behind is romantic, but devoid of genre defining romance tropes >The question always is, what do you gain from, narrowing down to this definition? Nothing. Actually you'd be excluding a significant chunk of formatove yuri works from being yjuri based on what I can only see as a form of insecurity over what you are allowed to like or how you can justify it to others.I don't gain anything either way, I don't like things based on whether they are yuri or not. But the discussion whether they are yuri or not will continue existing independent of this, as we see every day in this website or others. It's part of any genre to categorize what is part of it or not.
Scrap sisters, you are not sleeping on>Ruruka x Ecclair>Meto x Kanon>Inori x Aoi>Kiki x Kotojust because they are not seasonal, right
>>288322413Do we like it?
>>288326119>>288326223>People are free to believe whatever they want. It's generally better to follow the preponderance of evidence, but we can't expect everybody to be equally reasonable.>Where does this idea come from you have any sort of power over what weird and absurd some people choose to say? People will do that no matter what, why would this affect someones opinion or stance on anything?>but we can't expect everybody to be equally reasonable.>Where does this idea come from you have any sort of power over what weird and absurd some people choose to say?Funny how you decided to be the judge of that, even funnier when you said>The opinions or intentions from the author, main writer, or more importantly, the right's holder, are irrelevant to the interpretation of the contents of any form of media.So the opinion of the author doesn't mean shit, but YOU get to decide which opinions are shit or not.
>>288326249>Wrong, note you are using the word romance, when I used the expression romantic in nature, meaning it's the understanding the intent behind is romantic, but devoid of genre defining romance tropesNeither is what I said wrong, nor does it change if you talk about it as a romantic element rather than a genre. Yuri is not, strictly, a romantic element simply because its origin point is a culture that blurred the lines between romance and not romance. The ambiguity is part of the genre and it simply does not hold up to cut out the literal root of the genre from its definition.That people commonly prefer the romantic reading is just people being people, it means nothing for the genre.>But the discussion whether they are yuri or not will continue existing independent of thisCertainly true, like every other genre. I don't expect to convince you, but I disagree with the definition because it came up. There is no authority that could canonise certain yuri works based on criteria agreed upon by anyone. The great yuri conclave of Sendai (or Kamakura perhaps, wherever you'd set a yuri conclave) has not happened. But convention and tradition exists.
Gemini translation is getting worse.Chatgpt is the only one that doesn't suck ass yet.I guess I have to learn jp after all fml.
>>288326483No idea why you mixed quoted from my post and the posts of one of two other persons, but:>So the opinion of the author doesn't mean shit, but YOU get to decide which opinions are shit or not.Opinions are just that, opinions, they don't necessarily point to intrinsic facts. And yes, everyone is free to have any opinion they want, but that doesn't mean that their opinion can affect the reality of what they're giving their opijnion about.
>>288326495You are correct in the sense yuri is culture and the yuri genre is just language and language can change over time, the word yuri could as well mean fat bald men kissing each other in 20 years from now on if it's what japanese culture demands it to be.There is no authority per say, but conventions do exist, pic related is how the industry currently perceives yuri and as always, I'm sure you could find in this very picture or other pictures, works that don't fit this general categorization, but the point is, you won't find them consistently and neither you will find all of them, because people can't just agree if they are yuri or not.
>>288326761For the exactly reason I originally said >So you surely would have zero issues with people using any minimal amount of deniability available to deny that a couple exists and they are heterosexual women interested in men instead.Which was an answer to anon saying the author opinion doesn't mean anything and interpretation is everything.In two posts you were unable to give an answer without dismissing hypothetical opinion about hypothetical works as if believing your interpretation is somehow more valid than others when there is zero ground to hold yourself in when not even the author's opinion about the work is relevant.
>>288326734Claude and ChatGPT are the best currently
>>288326954I was the one who said that it's generally better to follow the preponderance of evidence, that is as a part of your epistemological model to get to likely true conclusions. I don't think anyone here is saying that any opinions are "more valid" than others, specially not the author's. Hope that answers your question.
>>288326734How can you tell? Are there translation benchmarks for Japanese?
>>288326819>fat bald men kissing each other debatably yuri
>>288326819Your picture makes my argument perfectly, when I look at some of the works there.In the bottom shelf, second from the right sits prominently futsu to bakemono. A story about a girl developing ambigious gay feelings for an alien worm living in the corpse of a dead schoolgirl.Another example, I can't spot it in this shelf but I've seen it in others in person, is what another anon mentioned Shinmai Shimai no Futari Gohan.Story about two sisters bonding over cooking and growing together as loving sisters. Now I obviously want them to kiss too, but they likely never will. Yet, its listed as yuri on comic walker. The live action tv show had interviews where people referred to it as a 'yuri work' and a western yuri dedicated translation group made it probably their last work they still do. The convention is there that this is yuri, even though it is not a work of any sort of romantic nature or element.Hell, Marimite is explicitly listed as yuri on jp wikipedia despite the author explicitly saying she didn't intend to make it a yuri work.The convention does exist and I would argue, despite having no central authority, the culture has produced the same convention very reliably for 20 years.
>>288327170I see two girls, therefore it is yuri.
>>288327078Except you did call anyone not following your "preponderance of evidence" unreasonable>but we can't expect everybody to be equally reasonable.which you also admit here >>288326248 it's purely subjective.
>>288327210If you have a better epistemic model, you're free to propose it, Anon. If it's better, I'll immediately follow it, my goal is to believe as many true things, and as few false things as possible.
>>288326954>In two posts you were unable to give an answer without dismissing hypothetical opinion about hypothetical worksSince one of those posts was mine, I will re-iterate that one cannot change the unreasonable opinions of unreasonable people.You made the argument that people will say X if the opinion of the author is disregarded and the answer to that was and remains you cannot stop people from saying X and they will say it regardless of how you feel about the authors opinion yourself. You presented the hypothetical opinions as unreasonable ones that are enabled by that stance. If you meant that people might legitimately come to that conclusion based on their own best knwoledge then ... what point were you even making? I also cannot stop people from their own subjective interpretation.
It's not rape if they look at you like that.
Beware of yuri shooters
>>288327326The subtext in Saki's face....
>>288327326>fully flushed face>clearly in heatWhat did Saki mean by that?
Is Mimi a top or a bottom?
>>288327326Beware of mouth-raping your best friend based on your subjective reading of the subtext in her expressions.
>>288327519>>288327640It's because she was looking at a tall beauty, not because she loves Kanon... baka...
>>288327172>In the bottom shelf, second from the right sits prominently futsu to bakemono. A story about a girl developing ambigious gay feelings for an alien worm living in the corpse of a dead schoolgirl.This argument never stands, because unlike TS which the industry rejects as heterosexual or yuri, genderless abominations, be it monsters, spirits or robots taking female form are accept as such since those are common industry conventions that come from the 50s.>Another example, I can't spot it in this shelf but I've seen it in others in person, is what another anon mentioned Shinmai Shimai no Futari Gohan.Because it's explicitly promoted as yuri by the publisher, commonly shows up in dengeki yuri fairs, by doing so they are providing you the context to interpret this story about two suspiciously close step sisters, you are meant to see them in the same context as other yuri works, it's the same reason why certain writers and directors from certain manga or original anime works avoid the word like the plague, if yuri was commonly accepted as broad enough to also include platonic relationships, they would have no reason to avoid it.
Iroha is the luckiest yuri protagonist
>>288327705>This argument never stands>proceeds to explain why my argument standsGave me a giggle. I wasn't making any sort of point about TS (which implies confirmed maleness) but the acceptance of both not specifically romantic and not even specifically two 'girls'. >this story about two suspiciously close step sistersThere is nothing remotly suspicious about their closeness when I take off my goggles.>if yuri was commonly accepted as broad enough to also include platonic relationshipsAnon, you just elaborated yourself on how this platonic relationship work is very much accepted as yuri. Others avoid the term yuri because of what they think the term implies to the audience, which is not a stance of the culture but of those trying to sell to it. You have to be completly out of touch to think the yuri community doesn't embrace platonic relationships as yuri in the face of most major ships of the last 30 years.
>>288327705>if yuri was commonly accepted as broad enough to also include platonic relationships,It is. What are you smoking friend? Do you need to check in with the kind of stuff the scholars of the Kyoto University yuri club show off at their event? Fo we need to go to JP twitter, or look at the things sold at GirlFes to see how the yuri community is absolutely rabid over many relationships that are certainly platonic?Did you not just acknowledge a prominent work with an entirely platonic sisterly relationship being seen as yuri?
What's going on here?
>yuri SoL about two girls discussing the meaning of yuri every chapter
>>288327970
>>288327705>it's the same reason why certain writers and directors from certain manga or original anime works avoid the word like the plague, if yuri was commonly accepted as broad enough to also include platonic relationships, they would have no reason to avoid it.Yuri is perceived as being limiting in demographic reach, thats why even explicitly yuri works often don't have the tag for example on melonbooks.
>>288327326I think everyone is misunderstanding Saki's expression here. This isn't love and it isn't arousal. It's fear. Saki is deeply afraid of being exposed as a lesbian due to her internalized homophobia.
>>288328016I imagine all anons as little girls, so that is this thread for me.
>>288328035>internalized homophobiai can't tell if people unironically believe this
>>288327079It's measured in vibes
>>288328035t. Hime
>>288328065>Internalized homophobia occurs when LGBTQ+ individuals absorb society's negative biases and stigma against same-sex attraction and unintentionally direct those beliefs inward. It stems from pervasive heteronormativity and cultural prejudice, often leading to deep-seated shame, self-doubt, and discomfort with one's own identity.It's a real thing
>>288328065If people believe it's possible to hate yourself because society tells you to, or that Kuzushiro is enough of a hackfraud for Saki to ruin this moment by fearing the girl who just made out with her might think she's gay?
>>288328134yes, I know it's a thing. Saki being nervous to vocalize she's a lesbian isn't internalized homophobia though.
>>288328151She thinks that being outed as a lesbian will ruin her life, to the point where she had schizo delusions of Mahiro.
>>288328181Yea, but she doesn't hate gay people or resent them. She's just scared of a big life changing moment.
>>288327309It doesn't really matter how they reach the conclusion, you will see I didn't really give any qualifier to what they said other than minimal deniability, yet you already assumed it's an absurd opinion, but what ground are your holding yourself to make this claim when works are purely subjective and nothing the author or the publisher say matters?
>>288328250If she doesn't think people view homosexuality negatively, there's no real reason to be scared of coming out of the closet. It's not supposed to be a life-changing moment but something normal.
>>288328306ok, idealism aside, we live in reality and so does she where there are sometimes negative consequences even if they aren't right.
>>288327836>Gave me a giggle. I wasn't making any sort of point about TS (which implies confirmed maleness) but the acceptance of both not specifically romantic and not even specifically two 'girls'. They are two girls, this is the point I am making, it's an industry convention that goes back 70 years, you are too late to start fighting against this, go back in time to when Astro had a sister robot introduced.>Anon, you just elaborated yourself on how this platonic relationship work is very much accepted as yuri. Others avoid the term yuri because of what they think the term implies to the audience, which is not a stance of the culture but of those trying to sell to it. You have to be completly out of touch to think the yuri community doesn't embrace platonic relationships as yuri in the face of most major ships of the last 30 years.>>288327927Because anon, this is the first thing I said, if you see romantic subtext then it's yuri, if you don't see romantic subtext then it's not yuri. Those people are not seeing "platonic couples" they are seeing couples with romantic subtext and so you can't really separate yuri from romantic nature.
#Gyaru to Gyaru no Yuri ch13https://mangadex.org/chapter/9219c0fc-ef7e-470d-a59c-b9d26712a59f
>>288328494
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/the_curious_cat_town_ch29Cute cats mentally ill diseased nukes
Friendly reminder. This is the correct way for a JC or JK to handle an older woman
>>288328494>even her mom calls her Yazawa
>>288319545Yuna and Togo
>>288328380NTA but absolutely no one sees any sort of romantic subtext in Shinmai Shimai.
>>288329098Yeah. I want them to become next-level loving sisters but it simply isn't in the manga.Its about two sisters loving eachother platonically and their close relationship. Which makes it yuri by pretty broad consensus.
>>288328925Mamu is a JS, isn't she?
>>288328925Why is Cool drawing something this lewd in this wholesome oneeloli manga?
Freme
need fish
>>288329098>>288329182The same could be said about every work we call subtext in this thread, there is not a single one you couldn't interpret as platonic if you wanted, you either believe there is romantic subtext and so it is yuri to you or you don't and so it's not yuri to you, it's literally all there is to it.
>>288329375Canned sardines are cheap and tasty
>>288329375I'll have it up here a little after 9AM CST unless I get busy at work.
>>288328380>you are too late to start fighting against thisI have no idea what gave you the impression I'm fighting anything. I'm pointing it out.At this point you reached self-referencing circuit argumentation stage, where you acknowledge that a entirely platonic work like ShinShi is seen as yuri but invent motivations into other peoples heads to justify it into your framework.No. No, I have never seen someome seeing romantic subtext in that manga and if they do, its definitely not a common opinion. That is simply not a thing, its not that kind of manga. My personal desires are the realm of fanfiction, not based on subtext or implications.The yuri culture has always accepted sisterhood, literal and figurative, as a definition of what yuri encompasses.
>>288329409Its yuri even if there is no romantic subtext. Thats all there is to it.
have you anons gotten seriously angry when a non yuri show mistreats the lesbian compared to the other characters? that happened to me when I watched or well to be more precise when I read inari kon kon iroha, seriously although I liked the manga the way the author handled the lesbian made me furious
>>288329600I'm not sure what that would look like, besides 'just a phase' writing. Which has annoyed me on occassion but the last one was so long ago I don't even remember.
>>288329476>>288329528I see, since you finally realized can't convince anyone your favorite work has romantic subtext, you decided you would do the opposite and start saying yuri actually means platonic friendship so you won't feel bad about how your favorite work is not seen as yuri, bold strategy, good luck with platonic friendship works like Hibikek which are by your definition as yuri as anything else.
>>288329600I'll only watch/read stuff I know I'll probably like, thus the only one I can think of was back in 2017 when I was still new to seasonals with Darling in the FranXX out of all things and its treatment of Ikuno. Not only did she get mistreated and laughed at for wanting to pilot with her crush but she also was the only one who got alien aids at the end. She did get her ambiguous maybe-gf I suppose but throughout the series she got shafted really hard
>it was the hibike schizo all along
>>288329785Anyone with half a brain could have told you as much. >>288325475
I think that a lot of what people are forgetting about yuri is that it isn't just about girls who are close each other. Two girls could be in love and fucking each other, but it wouldn't count as yuri if they were also in a relationship with a guy. It has to be an exclusive relationship between the two girls, although realistically, only a small insignificant of non-romantic relationships would qualify.
>>288329816>Two girls could be in love and fucking each other, but it wouldn't count as yuri if they were also in a relationship with a guy.I wish this were true and if anon ever gets that Yuri Conclave going, I gladly champjon striking NTR Trap from the canon but until then that dogshit is tragically still considered yuri.
>>288329857They have to exit out of any relationships with guys by the end or it doesn't count.
>>288329857>Yuri ConclaveYou'd need to take away the water and the food and even then they'd probably die rather than reach a consensus.
>>288329886Dont look at Manio's last work then
>>288329816Koinega, nuff said. Also any other love triangle with a guy involved, which are all considered yuri.>>288329857>NTR TrapThat one too. Yuri is all works which are about the intimate (platonic or not) relationship between two or more girls (girl meaning feminine and definitely not male). As long as the story is about that as its central element, its yuri.
>>288329912Anything from Yuri Hime is yuri. Period.
>>288329945Yuri Danshi is definitely beyond the scope of even the form and content anarchists as being called yuri.
>>288329941See >>288329886It's about the end state of their relationship, not the lead-up. After all, we accept manga where girls start out as not in a yuri relationships as yuri. So it makes sense that works where the main characters eventually enter into that kind of relationship (even if they weren't in it before) to be yuri.
>they're still arguing about pedantic bullshitOh fuck this. Time to commit an act of violence. All of you shut the fuck up right now.
>>288329857the nips love that stuff
>>288330131We don't call them The Land of Shit Taste for nothing.
>she just dumps him and he accepts itWhat was the point of this plotline?
>>288329999That opens up the question of if its still yuri if there is no relationship with any guys and they still don't end up together etc. Its overcomplicating it with conditionals.
>>288330153Making sure the man is the most passive cuck ever, which is just so there's no breakup drama or "wtf you cheated on me with a girl?!" His existence is practically meaningless.
>>288330083What am I looking at? You have to tell me or I can't be mad.
>>288330181It doesn't have to be with just guys. If the girl has the same sort of relationship with other girls, that just sounds like a group of friendships rather than something special and unique.
>>288330206You're dangerously close to the "poly isn't yuri" argument.
>>288330198Bridget is a man who was raised in girly clothing. Then there was a big rainbow people fight about Bridget after tha latest Guilty Gear release because they changed his lore.
>>288330232Poly is just an exclusive relationship between multiple people.Friendship by design is not exclusive.
>>288330241That in the middle is Bridget? What a butchery of his design. Okay, now I'm mad.Normalfags just need to learn to leave the traps alone ffs.
>>288330206>>288330251Are you saying Asumi-chan isn't yuri?
>>288330241>>288330276The character's creator says she's a trans girl. Cope.
>>288330301No, because it's building up to Asumi having a exclusive relationship with Nanao or her Childhood Friend.
Reminder that Samus fucks women.
If friendship is yuri, we might as well start calling traps yuri. Who cares about definitions, right?
Amazing hypocrisy as always.>Platonic friendships are yuri>Ok so stories where the girls are close platonic friends but also have boyfriends are yuri>Nooo it doesn't count! yuri is not about how close the girls are, it's about how close they are not with men! Reminds me those days when Tougorou Sasa said friendship is yuri and he didn't understood the negative reaction nips had in the answers because as he said, friendship yuri is when best friends who are in love with each other are not dating yet, it didn't even go to his head the nonsense of yuri being platonic feelings, mostly because he isn't a tranny obsessed with the girls not being touched by guys.Feelings have hierarchies and romantic feelings are the top of the hierarchy, platonic feelings will eventually lose to romantic feelings, it's funny someone mentioned Koinega, it's the perfect work that illustrates what happens to friendships, no matter how hard you want someone to be close to you, your romantic partner, your family, will always be more important than them.It's why shipping is NEVER about wanting two people to be best friends and always about wanting them to be a couple, because friendship is nothing.
>>288330320So if Asumi was just fucking whores are you really so retarded to say it would not be yuri?
>>288330320The idea that Asumi might go stable with either is purely subtext at best though. Are you going to call it not yuri retroactively if it ends up just being her fucking a bunch of whores?
>>288330382>Platonic friendships are yuri>Nooo it doesn't count! yuri is not about how close the girls are, it's about how close they are not with men! Can you point at the post that held both of these opinions? No you can't, you delusional schizophrenic.
>>288330382>it's about how close they are not with men!It has to be about this at some level, although closeness matters too. Otherwise, stuff like Higashiyama Shou's doujin where the girls are in a romantic relationship and basically use men as their meat dildos with no romance whatsoever would count as yuri to you.>>288330405>>288330436It wouldn't make the relationships yuri. Just like two girls who have sex in an otherwise heterosexual hentai doesn't make the relationship yuri.
>>288330474>>288329528>Its yuri even if there is no romantic subtext. Thats all there is to it.
>>288330375Considering yuri to be only romance is a later invented minority opinion, considering men women is mental illness.
>>288330375They are? Miman even drew the OniMai mc.
>you're gay if you have friends of the same genderamazing
>>288330515Where does this post say anything about men? Did you invent a whole second part in your head?Actually nevermind, you probably did.
>>288330534If a yuri mangaka draws a non-yuri character, does that make it yuri?
>>288330534Onimai is the worst type of GB since he can switch back. no yuri author should support that garbage
>>288330496>Just like two girls who have sex in an otherwise heterosexual hentai doesn't make the relationship yuri.If they are portrayed in a intimate relationship with eachother and not just a extension of the guys harem, then yeah it does.
which yuri girls have a strict no clothes policy at home and demands there partner to always be naked
>>288330581I'm talking about the later option.
>>288330375Except the definition of yuri has never been exclusively about romance, its literally the opposite. It included non-romantic deep girl-girl relationships from the start.
>>288330545You mean the whole discussion happening now? But hey you just fucking pretended you didn't say romantic friendships are yuri literally a few posts ago so it's not surprising you would pretend you didn't make this point either, dishonest piece of shit.
Class S is yuri
>>288330616>I perceive contradictions because I'm retarded and insane enough to pretend every poster is one personNaruhodo
>>288330616Can you now point at a single post holding both of these opinions? Yeah didn't think so schizo freak. Or do you not understand what 'a post' means?
>>288330598Then the story isn't about their relationship to eachother and its not yuri, easy.Asumi is yuri because its about her relationships with other women, mostly the whores she fucks.
>the artist who always draws chigusa fanart is now drawing eru fanartThey really are sisters.
>>288330375Traps ≠ transMzk is not a trap by definition
>>288330699Cute and wholesome
>>288330618The S stands for subtext, which is not yuri only yuri subtext.
>>288318732New chapter from Contract Sisters of what happened to their mother?
>>288330696Yuri isn't just about all relationships between women. Otherwise all CGDCT would be yuri.
>>288330618Class S is a weird western (american, really) invention based on not understanding that yes, lesbianism is often a phase for young girls and portraying it isn't a prejudice, its a reality obviously relevant to actual lesbians.S Culture on the other hand is obviously yuri.
>>288330733>Otherwise all CGDCT would be yuri.It is
>>288330733>Otherwise all CGDCT would be yuri.Most of it, yeah.
>>288330496It's about the narrative your moron, in the last chapter of Pinky Candy Kiss she had drunk sex with her husband she doesn't love, which basically fits your ridiculous definition of meat dildo, are you going to claim it's not yuri? Of course not, because it's a narrative about the girls getting together. You mean exactly like how I Won't Sleep with You for Free ended? Funny I didn't see a single japanese person saying it's not yuri. Maybe because it's a fucking work of women being intimate with women.>>288330638>>288330668Ah it's just 3 letters being a schizo, should have know since I always forgot you really believes your ships are canon.
what do yuri girls think of big strong yuri thighs? Is it a masculine favored body part or does it also spark arousal to gay females?
Insane women meet up.
>>288330762>He really believes it's common for people to have a gay phaseWhat not touching grass does to virgins
>>288330733They would be if they were fucking each other like Asumi does.
>>288330869Its extremly common for girls to fool around and then move on from it yeah
>>288330869It was common when they segregated the sexes. It's extensively recorded among boys but there isn't much info about girls
>>288330782>>288330787You two can feel that way, but I personally don't.>>288330818The narrative can be changed by the end result, so it's just as important. If the final chapter ends with them breaking up, then the narrative hasn't really been yuri since the beginning.>you mean exactly like how I Won't Sleep with You for Free endedThere was still a small romance arc in that. Even in a meaningless sex manga, they made sure to have at least some romantic feelings.
>>288330618depressing is what Class S is. Marimite had a single lesbian in the entire series
>>288330869Thats the point, its not a gay phase. Its girls being very affectionate and doing dry practice in a safely available way. Its incredibly common and doesn't mean they will move on to be lesbians. Just like gay people could end up in relationships with the opposite sex for their whole life, because they lacked context for their dissatisfaction the opposite happens too and is again quite common for young girls.Which in turn is relevant to real lesbians, because they are often left holding the emotional bag and thats why it used to be a theme in shoujo.
>>288330869I don't want to agree with the other retards but it's common for young people to explore their homosexual urges given the right environment until told to stamp it out. It didn't mean they went through a gay phase, it meant they went through a phase where they were allowed to be gay.
>>288330943The author is a firm believer that lesbianism is a phase so that's why she punished Sei
>>288330929We have yuri works with the girls breaking up or even worse, yuri works where the girls don't get together at all because the feelings were one sided.>There was still a small romance arc in that. Even in a meaningless sex manga, they made sure to have at least some romantic feelings.And... she did nothing with those, she just decided she would be everyone's whore, this is how the manga ended, the romantic feelings didn't win.
what's next, the Kinsey's Scale is a hate crime to you weirdos?
>>288330929>but I personally don't.And thats totally fine, but the market shows the yuri consuming audience predominantly feels it is, which is why Kirara is getting more and more explicit because the CGDCT audience is also the yuri audience. They're not courting a new audience of the highly valuable yurifag demographic, they cater to the existing audience that already thinks the girls should kiss.
>>288330978Sounds to me you guys sucked too many cocks in high school and college and now you are trying to cope it's normal, you are just faggots.
>>288330733WHAT IS A WOMAN?!
>>288328813What about that other cat town thing, the one where MC is a mouse in disguise? Haven't heard of it in a while.
>>288330943In what way is Marimite Class S? Yumi and Sachiko maintain their relationship exactly as it was post-graduation, whatever you prefer to think it was, with neither getting any other partner. And the only explicit lesbian also doesn't 'move on' from lesbianism.
>>288331084>WHAT IS A WOMAN?!Her sisters lover!
>>288331084>WHAT IS A WOMAN?!a person entirely defined by her boobs (in yuri)
>>288330891You keep bringing up the Asumi example, but you know how I know that you agree with my definition? Imagine there was an Asumi-like manga with 100 chapters and in a random chapter, she just randomly has sex with a male prostitute. It's not the final chapter and never gets brought up again. You would all hate that chapter because yuri is fundamentally partially about girls having exclusive relationships with each other.
>>288330699>is this ntr… stealing fans
>>288331181We'd all hate that chapter, but the manga would still be yuri.Your problem is an inability to distinguish between "this is yuri" and "this is yuri I like". There ARE yuri manga where girls randomly have sex with a guy in the middle of it.
>>288331035She didn't express romantic feelings to anyone else. That part was special between only them.>the girls breaking up>the feelings were one sided.Correct, I don't think of those are yuri if the girls move-on to other people.
>>288331212It would primarily be a manga about lesbian sex, not about lesbian relationships, and ultimately the lesbian sex wouldn't even be that special for the protagonist.>We'd all hate that chapterWhy would you hate it though? It's perfectly in line with your definition of yuri, so there's no need to hate it or feel complicated things about it.
>>288331181A. You're not making an argument about CGDCT not being yuri here.B. The fact we'd all hate it would not make it into a non-yuri manga. We all hate Octave but its still a yuri manga.C. You're sliding in the exclusive part, but your example only weighted on the 'with eachother' part because deep down you realise it has no need to be exclusive as long as its between girls.
>>288331181Happened in Pinky Candy Kiss, happened in Octave, happened in Manio's manga in the final chapter, actually the last person MC was portrayed having sex in that manga was a man and not a woman.You are confusing shitty developments, sometimes justified, sometimes not justified and just gratuitous, with the definition of yuri, now if Asumi suddenly drops girls and decide she has to settle with a guy, this is a completely different narrative.
>>288331264>lesbian sexHaving lesbian sex is a form of relationships. It would still be about MCs relationship to women, which is not the same as being about a relationship with a woman.>Why would you hate it though?Because I don't read yuri to read about sex with guys and my expectations were betrayed. I genuinly cannot understand why you think calli g something yuri is a stamp of approval. Shit yuri manga exist. Just because its yuri, doesn't mean a yuri fan must like it. There are probably lots of peoole who wouldn't mind at all, but they don't come to discuss yuri manga on 4chan.
>>288331271I don't consider Manio's last manga to be yuri but the others to be yuri because they ended with a relationship. >>288331269>you're not making an argument about CGDCT not being yuri here.I've already said that you're free to see all CGDCTs as yuri if you want, if you include every female-female relationship as yuri I suppose.>the fact we'd all hate it would not make it into a non-yuri mangaWhy do you hate it though? It's just part of your yuri narrative, so why hate it?>as long as its between girls.That's still elusive at some level because it doesn't include men.
>>288331230So it's yuri because of something that happened in half a chapter that was never brought up again?
sleep time
Some people have a serious problem distinguishing betweem their personal taste and the definition of the genre.Something isn't not-yuri just because I don't approve. I think the gilding the lily manga and all the other manga using guy's and fake boyfriends as some sort of threat or punching bag are shit, but they're yuri.I fucking love shipping Tanya/Visha and that still doesn't make it a yuri ship.
>>288331407all that's missing is the cursive for the ~true~ yuri experiencebut why the french page, did you want a translation?
Just amazing what we learned in this thread>Platonic friendships where the girls hug and eat candies together is yuri>Unless the girls are deeply in love with each other, lesbian sex is not yuri
>>288331454>I fucking love shipping Tanya/Visha and that still doesn't make it a yuri ship.yeah, it isn't your personal taste that made it a yuri ship. it just is
>>288331528>different people have different opinions>breaks his mind
>>288331568the earth is flat isn't an opinion, it's retardation. much like the statements he was mocking.
>>288331364>This work about a girl falling in love with another woman, getting intimate with another woman and ending in a broken relationship with another woman, published in the only yuri magazine, is not yuri.I see.
>>288331442Oyasumi
>>288330775why is she talking to herself
>>288331528The first one is correct and how the genre term has been used since the 00s until today.
>>288331621damn, am I gay now cause I went to get McD with my friends and he let me have some chicken nuggets in exchange for some of my burger?
>>288331407Oui~
>>288331588>published in the only yuri magazineIts not the only yuri magazine tho. And it also had yuri danshi which automatically kills all arguments for "if it was in YH it must be yuri".
Naoi looking like she's about to start her very own nu metal band.
>>288331568Oh sorry is this what you call a competition to see who has the most retarded take in the thread?
>>288331349>it would still be about MCs relationship to womenSo yuri is about all forms of relationships between women to you? Including friendships?>I genuinly cannot understand why you think calling something yuri is a stamp of approvalIt's not about whether you personally approve of it or not. It's the fact that the manga is now about a woman who just has random meaningless sex with people.>>288331418There was nothing in later chapters that contradicted it.
>>288331657If thats the entire story of your life, yes you fruitcake.
>>288331621>Anon is too dumb to realize shippers don't think the girls are really friendsAmazing just amazing.
Yuri is such a stupid word since it covers everything and the way the Japanese use it is even worse. I'm glad the publishers have started using GL for the explicit/romance stuff.
>>288331662opinion on yuris wearing socks with sandals?
>>288331707>百合は可愛いけどガチレズはちょっと...
>>288331746i can't believe socks with sandals is now the in thing. the whole fucking point is to have your feet exposed as much as possible
>>288331668>Including friendships?As it has always been used, yes.>It's not about whether you personally approve of it or not.It is, because you specifically asked about it. And for your example, if the manga isn't about her relationships with female whores anymore and just whores then its obviously not a yuri manga anymore because its not about her relationship to women and just about her having random sex. Her only fucking women makes it yuri because inevitably it also makes it about that relationship. A single page showing two girls having sex is a yuri artwork, regardless of what you cannot infer about their relationship status.
>>288331661Galette is more of an anthology, usually magazines have other stuffs like articles. Except Yuri Hime, Manio, every other yuri author in magazine, every common yuri account and website, all promoted it as yuri, Yuri Danshi is not the gotcha you think it is anon, YH didn't pretend it was a story about two female MCs in love with each other.
>>288331662Naoi is the cutest too
>>288331746Based. Central euro bros are becoming fashionable.
>She sashayed into the office, dress painted on with a low cut and high slits like it was tailored to push a thread to bump limit on male gaze discourse. Her voice was like omurice with a melange of ketchup and wasabi mayonnaise on it, forced low and silky but coiled tight like it could launch into high throated tsundere at the slightest indignity.>Her head made a slow, rehearsed turn, scanning across the room casually; gaze smouldering like an aloof ojou at an all girls Catholic school with a trail of jilted kouhai in her wake. For a brief instant, our eyes met and her lips tilted up almost imperceptibly, offering a glimpse of shiny teeth with the promise of an appetite that would drag you across the subtext threshold.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJWGN03cVMQ
>>288331835>Galette is more of an anthology, usually magazines have other stuffs like articles.It refers to itself as a magazine and yuri hime also only calls itself the only monthly yuri magazine. I take their word over yours, no offense.
>>288331891Anon writing fire today
>>288331668>There was nothing in later chapters that contradicted it.There was no need, what else is to say when she literally choose to fuck literally like 50 different women?
>>288331442Ehat does gaba mean
>>288331832>As it has always been used, yes.I would almost agree with you but curiously, you don't see people apply the yuri term to every battle shounen or harem with female friendships under the sun. It gets applied to CGDCTs and idols far more often because lo and behold, the girls don't usually have relationships with men.>a single page showing two girls having sex is a yuri artworkA yuri artwork is separate from a yuri relationship which is again separate from yuri sex. A manga where a girl only had yuri sex and no romance wouldn't have any yuri relationships.
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>>288331775Because sandals gives you +5 of freshness and sometimes you just need a +3 so with socks (-2) you get your desires quota of freshness. You have a problem with that,whore?
>>288331985>you don't see people apply the yuri term to every battle shounen or harem with female friendships under the suBecause they aren't about those friendships? People call stuff like Noir yuri. And guess what its about?
>>288332107They don't call the relationships between the girls yuri either in my experience.
>>28833206711/10
>>288331985Can you name a battle shonen or harem with a female lead people aren't calling yuri?
>>288332172They didn't call the second half of Chainsawman yuri.
Love Lab is yuri now
>>288332149And? We were on the topic of yuri as genre, not yuri as element. If the two girls have such a intense friendship that you could conskder their role in the story to be about that, which would be the equivalent, they absolutely would call it yuri. People called TogaChako yuri so it doesn't even take much.
something is only yuri if a majority vote of /au/ affirms that the work is indeed certified to be yuri
>>288332223>People called TogaChako yuri so it doesn't even take much.And yet, none of the other girls in the series got that treatment. And ultimately because they thought they had an exclusive relationship with each other and weren't interested in Deku.
Sendai = non autistic AdachiMiyagi = autistic Shimamura
>>288332262>And yet, none of the other girls in the series got that treatmentBecause they had no particular relationships to eachother that would make their characters or stories remotly about them. You sound genuinly retarded.>And ultimately because they thought they had an exclusive relationship with each other and weren't interested in Deku.Lol that last part is definitely not true. What are you even talking about?
>>288332067>７年後Boooo. Make it a mahou shoujo about a high school girl pretending to still be a middle schooler while transformed because she's embarrassed around her loli teammates, but it turns out they're actually OLs down bad for her.
>>288332067I was so let down when the cake magical girl manga didn't spend enough time with her cute JS fellow magical girl. I need some veteran teen mahou shoujo's being lusted over/lusting over hags.
>>288332306But they were friends, which according to you is yuri, no?>that last part is definitely not true. What are you even talking about?What I am saying is that the fans of those ships were delusional and thought those relationships were exlcusive and ignored all evidence to the contrary.
>>288332408>But they were friends, which according to you is yuri, no?Its like I'm talking to a shitty LLM that drops 90% of context and keeps repeating the same stupid shit. The i portant is the story is ABOUT the relationship between girls retard.>What I am saying is that the fans of those ships were delusional and thought those relationships were exlcusive and ignored all evidence to the contrary.Except that didn't happen and instead you are the delusional one.
>>288332408>its another twittershitter makes up a fake reality to justify his ignorant opinons-episode
>>288332316I don't know why people make fun of that sentiment. It makes perfect sense.
>>288332452You do realize that there are multiple people with different definitions of yuri running around in these threads right? It's hard to keep track of which definition belongs to which poster. >that didn't happen and instead you are the delusional oneHow?>>288332480You were the ones who brought up the example in the first place, which was shipped by people exclusively outside of these boards and these threads. Notice how no one posts any yuri fanart of them here.
>>288332228Genuinly the only useful working definition, because the only value the term has is communicating to others its relevant to their interests.But since most posts here are the same samefagging schizo a lot of the time....
>>288332512>exclusively outside of these boardsPeople shipped it in /a/ MHA threads and on /u/, the places relevant to this.>not hereActually we did back when it was relevant. Its just not a IP popular with the average user of this thread.
>>288332512I can only imagine the meltdown you psychotic little freak would have if they did post them regularly here.
>>288332533And why did they ship it? It's because they thought that the relationship between the two was more important than any relationship with the MC of the anime.>>288332555The psychotic posters are you all, because I've already said that I'm okay with other people have definitions of yuri that don't align with my own.
Eng cover is out
Because the chemistry was good and cute, I imagine. >It's because they thought that the relationship between the two was more important than any relationship with the MC of the anime.I see you are slowly backpedaling, its just into nowhere.
>>288332617So it begins...>>288332606Who's all paying the lesbian tax these days in R1999?
>>288332619What have I backpedaled on? People expect the yuri relationship to be more important than heterosexual relationship. How else do you justify a FFM not being yuri?>Because the chemistry was good and cute,Chemistry implies a romantic connection, moreso than the chemistry they shared with the MC
Wrong hole, Hinako....
>>288332666Cute and yuri.
Nice back arch
>>288331191>>288332161Majiwives!
I purely got into yuri because someone posted their 3x3 and it was exclusively made of yuri. Every single one of those series was really enjoyable and now I'm hooked... I think I read through Qualia the Purple, Liar Satsuki and School Zone before I realized they were just all going to be yuri.
>>288332463What's the last character on first box on the right?
>>288332617This is child porn in my country woot can't wait to be imprisoned
>>288332617Oddly normal without dubious consent warnings all over it
>silverash the rainforest>pramanix the perrita
>yuri in 6th place on the overall lightnovels saleYuri is becoming a bit too 'mainstream' for my liking.
>>2883334771st and 8th peak yuri
>>288333477How the fuck is Kaguya so popular? I'm not complaining, I just don't understand why it of all yuri is so massive
>>288333676Its not yuri though
>>288333477The Kaguya number is crazy because it's just 1 novel vs full series.
>Kaguya>yuriGive it a rest already
No.
Kidou Senshi Gundam: Suisei no Majo - Seishun Frontier ch6.1https://mangadex.org/chapter/86ab8a60-7729-43d2-8d76-521d337ba3ac
>>288333477It's more impressive that Carl is in that top
>>288333477What the 7th?
>>288318732>The Proshigh amounts of violence and all of the victims are women
>>288333477>silent witch 6thMonica is just too cute.
>>288333477Silent Witch is josei and Monica has two male suitors
>>288333692Iroha's mother and father were just platonic besties, after all
>>288332957
Masaya is mad
"Masaya is mad" faggot got so mad that he bumped the Lycoshit thread non-stop lmao
>>288333935feel bad that they used her just to try and make a soulless Bocchi knockoff
>>288334101Cute ojiwives
>>288333015Kek based
Happy late mother's day... also is it normal for a mom x daughter relationship to kiss like this?
>>288333015>they proceed to ride his big cock
Just post>ChisaTaki>KumiRei>Love Live>Ruri Rocks>SuleMioTo repel the autistic ojisan idolfucker
>>288334156Usually there’s more tongue, but Ayako was just giving Asuka a taste here
>>288334158>>288334161>>288334182You sure love cocks, anon
>>288333477Good OP material.
>>288334196Stop projecting, Johnny
The ammunition is ready.
>>288334161Translation doko
>>288334032>>288333015
oh tow
Fremelty
Yuri is gay
>>288334196Why do you think cactuses are phallic?
>>288324548>>288322948No wonder he's so angy today.
>>288334136What mom would the easiest for Renako to fuck? support your statement.
>>288333142>Qualia the PurpleI hadn't heard of this before. This is great.
Remember to include superior fox in the next OP
>>288332731I believe Mai is telling Renako to bark like a dog and Renako is barking
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH THIS DAMN HOMO REEEEEEEEE
>>288334798>>288334798>>288334798>>288334798
>>288334772Mai looks kinda off-model there tbdesu
>>288334772>Mai
>>288319135Compare the cost of artificial insemination to the cost of the amount of alcohol needed to bring >>288318985about.
Camping time
>>288334809>>288334807She's wearing a wig for some role play
Where's the page 10 boogieman?
>>288335317Too busy with the plug
Last Word
The Alliance that is winning And the Alliance that refuses to stop.
>>288332617Where's TW?
>>288335928>Where's TW?South of mainland China.
I miss the lolcow
Suddenly, dopamine hit
asshole too sore after big break
You lost the last word in the LycoReco thread, btw
qrd on this massquoting schizo???
>>288336079schizo
oh know
Greg O'Gallagher
>>288336121>>288336136>mentally ill spastic loser literally thinks this is about "the last word" and the very concept of "prove your argument correct" makes him start shitting himself with rageHow you act will never be normal, !-Akemi.
Boogie?
Go take a break, please.
DexHex is deranged
An insane anti crack person
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