Can /a/ recommend me a decent Tablet Model? I'm mainly looking for something I can put .cbr files into, or at least a comfortable enough equivalent, but I know nothing about tablets.
>>288344974well, for me an used kindle paperwhite 4 does the trick. its not high end but its pretty cheap, it looks natural to the eyes and the resolution is quite nice. (pic related)
Boku no Pico
>>288345194Mmm, yeah, simple and affordable, I know it's not supposed to be super complex tech after all, I feel like the more features you put in one of these tablets the worse it gets.>>288345265-⩊-
Use your phone like a normal person.
>>288345324
>>288345324You mean "...like a retarded normalfag."If you read on your phone you don't care about a quality manga reading experience, that means you are a cancerous faggot and should go back to twitter like the rest of the election tourist and later additions; all worthless. /a/ is not for normal people, try elsewhere.
Never had a tablet but I imagine any tablet these days can open up image files. Can't you just install a Honeyview or CDisplay app?
>>288345551Those are Windows programs, they wouldn't even run on a computer with a different OS. At least not without some added layer.
>>288345479If I want a quality reading experience I will read it on my PC.Tablets are for 5 year olds and drunk housewives.
>>288344974I use my ancient Nexus 7 2013 Tablet for reading. It's 7' and 1920x1200, which at the time was insane. And it's still great for reading. The tablet can't really do anything other than reading anyways lol, if I so much as try to open chrome it will just freeze for 5 mins before eventually managing to open it. I use MoonReader Pro to read. lil app t hat i got for like 4 bux years ago. it supports zip and rar files, cbr, cbz and all the usual image and ebook formats.If I were to get something new now, maybe an 8 inch basic xiaomi tablet for like 90€ or thereabouts? Unless you don't care about color, in which case get an e-ink display ereader, but those are likely 2x more expensive.
>>288345690https://www.cdisplayex.com/mobile/Wow that was easy
>>288345324We get inflammatory bad faith faggots like this guy on /lit/ too often.
>>288345864Where's the GNU/Linux version?
>>288344974it's expensive but i'd spring for OLED if you can. personally have a Tab S10 Ultra, the size makes it ideal for reading large spreads.
>>288345305yeah, thats why I really recommend it. unless you want something high end. if so, i would still recommend something with an e-ink display like most ebook readers are, it's really great at mimicking the feeling of reading a paperback manga.no blasting yourself with unnecessary blue light either. works wonders for books too of course. so you have a two in one deal. but it all depends on your needs and wants of course
>>288344974https://lmrgtfy.davwheat.dev/?q=decent Tablet Model? I'm mainly looking for something I can put .cbr files into
>>288344974>>288345194>single page modeMight as well just vertical scroll it on a phone at this point and stop pretending that you care about "quality manga reading experience"
>>288344974Don't get baited into buying one of those shitty grayscale e-readers.
>>288348438This. Get color eink instead. Boox Tab XC for starters.
I use a second hand TabS 5e I got on ebay for less than 1/4 what it was new and it's been faultless for about 4+ years and the screen is still great. I started off tablet reading on a Nexus 7 and it was good at the time but I'd not now ever go back to a screen less than 10"
>>288345993Here we call them trolls or, if they aren't joking, retards.
>>288346893>fell for the blue light psyopgood goy
>>288348674>complaining about trolls>in an off-topic rec thread lol
>>288348624wtf literally meI got my s5e only 3 years ago thoughin fact if it weren't for that i would have assumed it was a bot reposting archive posts from when i mentioned it in the pastexcellent condition for only $100 usednexus 7 served me well for many years but yeah too small for manga. s5e was mindblowing, especially full color manga, wish i had bought one this size way earlier. Though I think I would still prefer the 7 inch size for reading books, not a big difference though.
>>288348739wow gee, im sure glad a pathetic neet without a life made me see the error of my ways! teach me more secondary-sama
i have a kindle scribe that i occasionally read manga on, the eink experience is superior and you can sideload books to it so you're not locked into the amazon store but its spenny, i bought it partially for note taking at work instead of a dedicated reader. If you're looking to use scanlation sites you can use any android tablet, personally i use a 10" ipad with Tachimanga for scanlation sites and Chunky for downloaded mangas. It's a bit of a mix and there's crossover between what can do what but it works for me. The benefit of the ipad and any equiv android tablet is the screen size ratio is perfect for scanlations, whereas phones are too tall and skinny and it looks terrible.
>>288345194I wish bigger screens weren't so fucking expensive
>>288349514>The benefit of the ipad and any equiv android tablet is the screen size ratio is perfect for scanlations,Don't know about scanlations but manga is normally B5, A5 or B6 format and therefore only 7:5 aspect ratio is optimal. 4:3 tablets will have letterboxing while 3:2 and wider will have pillarboxing.
>>288344974>>288345194>verticalwhy
>>288349537They've dropped in price in recent years against the general trends and despite significant improvements in resolution. Now you can get b&w 13" for $600 and color for $800.
>>288349621you uh, seen a book in person right anon
>>288349691What happens when you open a book?
>>288348438>>288348617Can't even tell if this is genuine retardation or trolling. I own multiple color e-ink displays and multiple grayscale e-ink displays. Grayscale is FAR superior for black and white manga to the point that it's not even a competition, Kaleido 3 is still dogshit with very niche use cases while simultaneously crushing blacks and whites. It's a very very early adopter tech and unless it improves drastically I would never recommend color e-ink over grayscale for manga. Color is rendered at 150PPI and the CFA ruins sun-pixel dilution and that terrible optical haze. Color e-ink is a meme, greyscale is basically solved. If you want color just get a normal tablet
>>288349742>while simultaneously crushing blacks and whites.It makes the blacks darker and improves contrast.
>>288349722it.. opens? you do know that you can flip stuff on a tablet/ereader too, right? right?..
>>288349779You see two pages at once.
>>288349771No it does not, that is a blatant lie. The cfa obliterates sharpness and contrast. There is currently no color panel on earth that can display even fifty percent of the sharpness of a greyscale display. It does not exist.
>>288349553>>288349514Only smaller ipads are 7:5, and a few chinesium androids.
>>288349814You are arguing against the laws of nature. The CFA absorbs light, creating a darker image, which means the blacks will get blacker. Since contrast is the ratio between black and white it actually improves.
>>288349854Holy shit you're retarded, absorbing light indiscriminately across the entire display does not improve contrast, it just makes the whole screen A LOT darker, muddier and harder to read without a strong front-light turned on. E-ink is reflective not emissive so because of the CFA it has to do a double pass where the light is now being filtered twice.
>>288344974Ipad mini if you're okay with opening browser tabs to read pirated manga instead of using tachiyomi. It's very light and comfy and the colors are nice in case you also want to watch animu in your bed.
>>288349742>If you want color just get a normal tabletYou get color eink because you want eink, LCD or OLED can't compare to that.Having a color display is important for all the color pages, particular the ones inside magazines and volumes.
>>288349951If you want muddy art be my guest, there is no argument to use color e-ink in the current landscape beyond hyper niche use cases. Until the tech improves it's either tablet or grey scale, color is a terrible in-between.
>>288349929>A LOT darker,So you understand that it produces deeper blacks.Now do the math and calculate the actual contrast.>without a strong front-light turned onSunlight is the only thing you need.
>>288344974>OP asks legitimate question>>288345194>FPBP gives legitimate answer Is /a/ healing?
>>288348365based two page chad
>>288349997Anon you seem to have a fundamental lack of understanding for how this technology works. Every single contrast ratio that's been compared extensively shows a drop from 13.3:1 to 8:1, by your own logic if you for example put on a dark pair of sunglasses inside a dimly lit room; the sunglasses absorb light creating a darker images which means blacker blacks... do you understand...?
>>288349987I've used Kaleido 3 for three years now and wouldn't want to go back to greyscale for manga. The downsides don't bother me.It would be nice if companies other than Remarkable adopted Gallery since Remarkable is too limited for manga.
>>288344974Go print it at your local internet cafe. They'll even give you a discout for bulk printing. Staple it and you are done.There, now you can read it whenever you fucking want to, even during a blackout.
>>288350103Gallery has some real promise, I think kaleido 3 is just severely limited as is and for me personally at least the reduction in contrast and sharpness bothers me a bit. Not to mention the greyness. The big issue that all of this tech eventually hits is the refresh and ghosting. Cholesteric Liquid Crystal Displays with a fast refresh rate would be awesome but I doubt we will ever see those at least for a decade or maybe never.
>>288350084>Every single contrast ratio that's been compared extensively shows a drop from 13.3:1 to 8:1Voya's data says otherwise.
>>288350164>local internet cafethis is absolutely not an option unless you're a thirdie
>>288350200Voya himself openly admits that color is a direct downgrade for black and white specifically...
>>288350177>The big issue that all of this tech eventually hits is the refresh and ghostingKaleido 3 has no impact on refresh or ghosting since it's just a regular b&w panel under a passive color filter array.You get ghosting in color images because their greyscale underneath, not any different from how a standard greyscale panel behaves. Greys have worse ghosting than pure black or white due to how the technology works.There's no loss in sharpness on Kaleido 3 black on white content still has the full 300ppi.
I have Lenovo IdeaPad, having Play Books means you can get a lot of manga and LNs at a decent price. It can also be used for anime, youtube etc, has a desktop mode so it can do some computer things.
>>288350245That's his subjective opinion and not his objective test framework.
>>288350263I'm referring to cholesteric liquid crystal displays for refresh and ghosting.>There's no loss in sharpness on Kaleido 3 black on white content still has the full 300ppi.This is not true. The permanent color filter array acts like a tinted, textured window over your text. Because it reduces contrast and introduces a faint grid pattern, black and white text on a Kaleido 3 screen will always look softer, grayer, and less sharp compared to a black and white e-reader.
>>288350301the objective test work shows13.3:1 contrast ratio grey scale8:1 contrast ratio colorYou have to be trolling at this point
>>288350344Post screenshot or timestamp.
>>288344974I read on my ipad
>>288350360"In a comprehensive review of reflective display technologies published in the Journal of Optical Microsystems, researchers note that adding a color filter array fundamentally caps light efficiency (Herle et al., 2024). Because the filter blocks large portions of the visible light spectrum from reflecting back to your eye, the total reflectance drops by more than 60% to 70% compared to a clean black-and-white display (Herle et al., 2024)."Herle, D., Martin, O. J. F., Villanueva, L. G., & Quack, N. (2024). Emulating paper: a review of reflective display technologies. Journal of Optical Microsystems, 4(2), 020901. https://doi.org/10.1117/1.jom.4.2.020901
>>288349641>$800 for a black and white screenWhat the fuck happened, these should be $100
>>288350321It's just tiny colored blobs. You're not going to see any of them just like you don't see the color filter array on your computer monitor or other LCD devices.There's a grid pattern because it's a raster display but you shouldn't see it without magnification.
>>288350446"Industry documentation detailing the evolution of electronic ink outlines exactly why a CFA destroys resolution (Pearl, n.d.). E-Ink explicitly notes that adding a color filter array over a monochrome display has always faced fundamental optical limitations. Specifically, the side-by-side color filter patterns drastically reduce true spatial resolution, color saturation, and lightness (Pearl, n.d.). This spatial layout is what creates the permanent grid-like "screen door effect" over black and white content, a flaw entirely absent on a pure monochrome screen."Pearl, E. I. (n.d.). Electronic Ink. Università degli Studi di Trieste. https://sites.units.it/ramponi/teaching/DIP/DIPmaterials/z04_e-ink.pdf
nice work on turning an anons genuine request into a technical sperg war
>>288344974Boox go 10.3
>>288350446>>288350476Which of those is Voya? Who still gives a shit about Pearl or Triton? Carta and Kaleido are the current lines.
Anyone have an opinion on a e-ink boox device. I have a samsung tablet AND honestly works fine with cdisplay and tachiomy.Also it's confortable for pdfs qnd such. But e-ink devices have improved a lot since ten years ago and i'm curious.
>>288350552>voya my e-celeb has more credibility than the science institutes of the worldErm okay
>>288350563I own a couple boox displays, they are good with mihon.
>>288350454The black and white one is $600. LCD tablets in that size costs well beyond $100. eink is a niche product that doesn't get the economy of scale that LCD and OLED have.In 2023 the original b&w Tab X cost $880 and offered a resolution of 2200x1650.
>>288350547sure, if it makes you feel better. here's your (You)
>>288350446>>288350476The contrasts you cited aren't listed anywhere.
>>288350465The ratios are math using the same formulas those papers provide. You either drop to a 5:1 ratio without a frontlight or a 8:1 ratio with a frontlight. There is no argument to be had here, you are probably the first person I've ever encountered that argues for this. Even your god voya openly admits this. How about you provide me some citations proving the contrary?
Nobody cares about your minutia bullshit, a good screen is going to look 97% as good as the best screen ever to most people and the 3% difference is hardly perceptible. Next it's going to be mp3 vs lossless and then arguing about plugs or beads holy fuck.
>>288350854woops, meant for>>288350734
>>288350869Color e-ink doesn't look good, get your eyes checked. At least kaleido 3 doesn't. Unless you consider colored newspaper from the 90s quality.
>>288344974i just got a bigme b7 color after using a clara hd for years. i would recommend it, it runs android which is nice although the battery life isn't as good as non android ereaders but unlike most of those it has large built in storage and a micro sd slot. boox go 7 color gen 2 should be a good option also i was torn between the two and just went with this as it had higher ram. still far better than a normal tablet and e ink is just way nicer to use for manga than an lcd/oled panel. a lot of people say 7 inch is too small for manga but i think its a good size, even the claras 6 inch was great. it sucks the clara color and libra color do not have upgradeable storage like the older kobo devices i would have liked to get one of those but the emmc basically makes them doa 16-32gb is not enough for keeping a good amount of manga on device at all>>288350321im surprised they havent bought out kaleido 4 yet i was following all the announcements for the kaleido 3 at trade shows and was quite excited for it then when it came out i thought i would wait until the next gen as it wasnt as good as i was hoping from seeing reviews. but its been what 3 years now and nothing i decided to just grab a kaleido 3 device. the colors are nowhere what i would have wanted but still way better than not having color imo. its just really nice being able to see the odd colored page and covers. the blacks look kinda faded and the white of the screen is also kinda dim looking compared to my clara hd but its a worthwhile tradeoff i think . i havent seen any difference in the sharpness of blacks though though i think clara hd is also 300ppi
>>288350563The main problem with Boox is that with every update you have to relearn the whole system. And some of the changes are downright for the worse.But there isn't a whole lot of competition for them. Bigme is even chinkier and Supernote only has two models and run Android 11. In 13" there's nothing at all unless you import the Quaderno A4 from Japan.
>>288350899>Unless you consider colored newspaper from the 90s quality.Have you ever seen japanese manga magazine paper?
>>288350899That's just how manga is supposed to look.
>>288350987I don't think kaleido 4 will be significant enough, from what I've read the tech is already at its limit. Gallery might do something interesting but we will see. I find my tab xc useful occasionally but lately it's been collecting dust for me. I also don't like how boox supports their products even though I think they are still the best choice generally m
>>288351029Yes>>288351041I highly doubt that with how digital the industry is becoming, maybe 10 years ago.
>>288350987There's no real room for improvement with Kaleido 3. You can make the color elements bigger to improve saturation but it would make the image even darker.Kaleido 1 and Plus had an inferior layout that yielded lower resolution and produced a visible grid.
and a double page spread >>288351056>I don't think kaleido 4 will be significant enough, from what I've read the tech is already at its limit.damn that really sucks im sure something better will come thoguh. not sure what panel the new amazon scribe color device is using but it looked amazing on youtube reviews in comparison to all the other things on the market. it sucks that you have to wait for jailbreaks before you can use them properly or i would have got that instead do you know what happened to those other non eink color technologies i think some chink companies released devices with them at the same time.i havent paid much attention to gallery devices because i like the smaller screen but i do remember the demos of them looking really good when good e reader was at one of the trade shows.
>>288351062What mango
>>288350670>LCD cost well beyond $100Yeah that's the point. This is black and white, it should be significantly cheaper. $600 seems way overpriced for a device aimed at manga readers and women who keep a novel in their purse.
>>288350026afraid not. look at the rest of the thread. but there are glimpses of goodwill, underneath all of the sperging out
>>288351147zettai karen children its really good i just picked it up after finishing the anime. the anime adaptation is pretty much exactly the same up so far although ive only read like 5 volumes or something. i think the anime goes up to volume 16
>>288351150I spend above $600 on digital manga each year.
>>288351147Looks like Zettai Karen Children or whatever it's called. Zoomers would probably call it some 'ahh groomer blud' or something, pretty sure it was about being a surrogate parent to some not!magical girls.
>>288351181>i own nothing and i am happyGot it, it's for retards.
>>288351150not really, 13 inch e-ink displays are still very niche $600 for black and white to $800 for color is pretty reasonable considering how small this market is you can get a 10 inch display for $400 too>manga readers and women who keep a novel in their purseThat's not really the target audience and who is using a 10+ inch display on the go? Also maybe look at kobo if boox is too pricey.
>>288351140>do you know what happened to those other non eink color technologies i think some chink companies released devices with them at the same time.They literally fell apart.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9KhYB9iEvMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82oQpZ4fQqI>i havent paid much attention to gallery devices because i like the smaller screenBigme Galy was 8" but it was a horrible idea since they tried to make it like a regular tablet with camera and shit.Remarkable Paper Pro Move is also Gallery based but obviously not something meant for manga.
>>288351224I just like manga and don't live in Japan.
>>288351165Yeah, I made the mistake of continuing to read the thread after having my heart only briefly uplifted.
>>288350026>op literally says "rec me">some faggots unironically rec/a/ is fucking dead
>>288344974E-readers are trash buy oled
>>288344974https://youtu.be/ZV3BEBzIoHM?si=5j9pPhm6B6xeaBEKWatch this video, don't listen to the spergs arguing
>>288345324Last night I was fucking your whore mother in her whore ass and told her I needed to piss, she told me>Use the toilet like a normal personSo I shoved my cock down her throat and used her like the toilet she was, like a normal person.
>>288351232>Also maybe look at kobo if boox is too pricey.Kobo is only cheaper in the 6" segment with Clara BW for $140 compared to $180 for the Go 6.Kobo killed their b&w 7" Libra so you're stuck with Libra Colour at $230. It's cheaper than the Go 7 Color Gen II but more expensive than the b&w Go 7.Neither brand offers 7.8" or 8" readers any more.In 10" the Elipsa 2 with $400 costs as much as the Go 10.3 Gen 2 with front light but is crippled by 226ppi vs 300ppi.
>>288351178Was it ever fully scanlated? Although I don't want to read 500+ chapters of anything, nor should anything be that long, it seems like there were still about 9 volumes to go when translations died with easy going scans.
>>288351532I don't see why someone would ever buy an eclipse over a 10.3 Lumi or if they want color a Air5C. Kobo should drop the price by $100.
What's the best tablet with a non-zogged OS? (not Android or iOS)
>>288351619Do you prefer zog watching you or chinaman watching you.
>>288351619ThinkPad X1 Tablet Gen 3
>>288351573Amazon thinks people will pay $630 for the 32GB Kindle Scribe Colorsoft or $680 for the 64GB version.Kobo still has more brand recognition than Boox so they can rely on that.We'll have to see if they release an Elipsa 3 or if they kill the line entirely like the Sage.
>>288351327I'm old enough to remember when people who asked for sauce were provided it, and when innocuous "what are you watching/reading?" threads weren't met with visceral contempt outside of a small handful of malignant faggots like (You). But I guess those times are impossible to remember when you first heard about this site after getting banned from le reddit in 2016, huh?
>>288351619>tech>not ZOGgedGood luck.
>>288351638chinaman easilywhat are they gonna do, invade my country? I'd welcome them
>>288351690Unfortunately kindle can run off brand name alone for a long time. Kobo maybe not so much, with boox making top tier black and white displays and top tier color displays they may eventually fold and kill the line.
>>288351537no only like 56 volumes out of i think 61, if i actually get that far without getting bored ill probably mtl them or something kek
>>288351619kobos os is linux and you can install custom software like koreader without needing exploits but their newer models all have low amounts of storage if you can find a clara hd or a libra 2 on ebay you can swap out the internal storage for whatever size you want as its a micro sd i had 128gb in mine it was great
>>288344974I've got Kobo's Libra Color and it's pretty nice. Manga needs to get thrown through a converter to fix the rainbowing but otherwise it looks nice and seeing color pages on eink is neat
>>288351812>Manga needs to get thrown through a converter to fix the rainbowing but otherwise it looks nice and seeing color pages on eink is neathave you tried koreader or is this just something specific to the kobo itself? its way nicer than the built in reader software
>>288351265yeah des that was it>They literally fell apart.fell apart as in the screens started dying after a few months or just the company making them?
>>288351843actually I've been using koreader since day one. Learned about it before I got one and knew I'd like the extra options (OPDS support is nice, can stream manga chapters directly from my home server for comfy reading on the couch)The rainbowing is a problem specific to not just the model, but most color ereaders iirc. Something to do with how the color screen interacts with grayscale. But just throwing it in KCC with the fix rainbow option removes it completely. Now that you mentioned it though, I looked it up and found that someone finally made a koreader plugin to just do the processing on the device so that's nice.
>>288350294>paying for digital media
>>288351690>Amazon thinks people will pay $630 for the 32GB Kindle Scribe Colorsoft or $680 for the 64GB versionThat's insane, I own an old Colorsoft and I don't think it's worth it even when it's jailbroken, not having access to expandable storage for comics when the max limit is 32GB sucks. Also E-Ink displays are vastly worse for colored comics than OLED, they're only better for when you want to read in bright areas and don't want to worry about it running out of battery.
>>288352034>The rainbowing is a problem specific to not just the model, but most color ereaders iirc. Something to do with how the color screen interacts with grayscale.yeah, check this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw2HTJCGMhw
>>288344974i watch my 'angas on cubari moe like a normal person.
>>288344974You need to specify what exactly you want from the display and what your budget is.
Anyone here with an Xteink X4/Mooan 5/Boox Palma/Hisense A5? I've had people tell me my 6" Kindle is too small for manga, but unironically my biggest annoyance it's that it's annoying to hold one-handed
can i add to OP and say i am looking for something with at least 128gb or expandable storage? i rip my own manga and right now i have 75gb with over 1500 manga
>>288349742The perfect ereader would be 10 inches, 1300 carta, 300 ppi, frontlight and a wacom pen.
>>288353955The Palma is too small for reading a lot of manga, it's very sharp.
I just use one of the cheaper Microsoft Surface tablets. Has a 5:4 aspect ratio so it's not super wide, and it's just Windows so you don't have to worry about file type limitations. Though Windows has its own issues. I only use it for reading manga.
>please op buy the chinkshit e-readersWhy is /a/ filled with so many third worlders? E-reader owners are sunk cost shills, imagine buying some dogshit screen that just barely can do black and white correctly nevermind those eye rape color screens? Buy Oled or bust and don't listen to these chink shills.
>>288353993I can read really small text, I used to read manga on my phone and stopped only due to hating the screen tech, but had no issues with size>>288354182>Buy Oled or bust and don't listen to these chink shillsOLED sucks ass for manga, it's great for movies and color comics; normal books are good if you invert colors, but you can't do that with manga because the drawings look like shit. You'd maybe have a point if you said unlit LCD, which is dogshit at everything except manga and books
>>288354466Ereaders are ewaste trash, sybau chinkshill. Oled has prefect blacks, your chinkshit doesn't.
>>288354772>Oled has prefect blacksWhat good are perfect blacks if whites pierce your eyes every page? You'd have a point if we were talking about anime. For manga, OLED is like staring into a lamp and trying to discern the manufacturer info on the tip
>>288354915Have you tried running it at reasonable brightness?
>>288354466>You'd maybe have a point if you said unlit LCD, which is dogshit at everything except manga and booksRLCD is too low resolution to be practical for manga. The gain in refresh speed serves no practical purpose.
>>288353967Boox Note Air 5C has a microSD slot. Tab XC has 128GB storage.
>>28835396913" is better for manga since it's closer to B5 format or two B6 pages. Optimally it should be 7:5 aspect ratio instead of 4:3. 10" is the lower limit of what's practically readable.
>>288356766nta but do you have any recommendations for a b&w e-reader with expandable storage or around 128gb
>>288356884Supernote A5X2 for expandable storage.Boox Note Max for 128GB.Both lack a front light.
>>288356961I need a frontlight otherwise I'm screwed when reading manga. Also>$700 boox max Wtf? Anything below $200? The Lumi was my initial pick but it's too expensive and it doesn't have expandable storage. I have around 90gb of manga.
>>288345479Based teenGOD. Though real manga wans do this >>288350164You're just another ironic weeb. Only physical manga is real.
>>288357113>t.newfag
>>288344974>>288345194Too small, specially for double pages.
>>288357064You're not going to read manga on something below 10" and those cost $350 at minimum.You don't have to carry your entire library around all the time. I have an older device with 128GB storage and microSD slot but I just transfer the manga I actively want to read and delete the ones I finished.
>>288356766Thanks anon, i'll check them out
>>288355480Impossible. Either it's too bright or it's or it's outshun by the surroundings. You never get the point where it perfectly blends in. Reading outside is flat out impossible.You want manga to look like print and OLED completely fails at that.
>>288352034oh okay i havent noticed it on mine yet but ive only had one manga on there so far. good to know
>>288356884kobo libra 2 and kobo clara hd are great devices they have low storage ootb but the internal storage is a microsd card so you can replace it.
>>288358319They're too small for manga and are no longer in production.
>>288358938they arent too small i dont get why people always say this and whys that matter you can buy them used
>>288359105You are never going to fit two pages on a 6" or 7" display, 10" is already pushing it.Even if you drop all standards and read single pages they are going to be significantly smaller than they're suppsed to. You'd regularly have to zoom in to read fine print or look at details.
>>288359154>You'd regularly have to zoom in to read fine print or look at details.you dont unless youre using some screen thats like 150ppi
>>288359189Post an image of the manga you typically read.
>>288359195i posted several in this thread here is my clara hd also, my old kindle from 2011 kindle did need zooming on some text but it was only 160ppi>>288351140>>288351062>>288350987
>>288359231So you mainly read pirated English translated shonen shit? And you wonder why people don't take you seriously.
>>288359526post it up then retard lets see your epic taste
>>288359526>btfo by the clearly readable text on multiple views on two different small screens so pokes fun at things i read
>>288360084
>>288345324>it's only 2 inches smalleryou people disgust me
>>288345479Trying way too hard to fit in.
>>288360411I cant even read this on my pc monitor without zooming. Post a picture of it on your ereader
>>288360244The text in >>288350987 is definitely not clearly readable and >>288351140 would require the device right on your nose.If the stuff you read shows a lack of intellectual capacity and missing respect for the medium then you aren't going to convince people that your reading setup isn't complete pleb.
>>288360523What size and resolution is your monitor?
>>288360562it looks better irl its hard to get good photos out of my phone camera half the time, its only soft from my phone not wanting to focus>would require the device right on your nose.nah i can read it at arms length
>>288348624>>288348674Since OG Nexus 7 I stick to 7"-8" tablets only. Convenient enough to replace laptop during travels (video out), light and comfortable to use, big enough to read most of the stuff. Currently on my second Lenovo Y700.
>>288345324Good bait
https://litter.catbox.moe/2inqskkpahf3xlul.pdf>Your E-reader>Distance from your face to it>What's the smallest version you can read when you load this pdf into it
>>288360731Why didn't you take your other images in landscape orientation?
>>288361217>Boox Tab Ultra C (10.3")>25cmI can read the 6pt version at full height but it's straining my eyes. The 9pt is more comfortable for longer periods.
>>288361217I opened it on PC first and at 100% zoom 6pt is better readable than 7pt because the letters are consistent. Fuck that uneven line hinting.
>>288344974I just use my phone.You can buy phones that unfold into bigger tablets, and they're not that much more expensive than dedicated tablets.Actually they are, but then you're not carrying around two devices.
I have a samsung tablet. It's pretty cool.
>>288362040>Actually they are, but then you're not carrying around two devices.You'd get the same effect by just carrying a tablet and not having a telephone.
OP here, thanks everyone for your help.I mainly want an e-reader I can use while commuting and flying (can't drive due to health reasons), one I don't have to be converting formats for or having to go through annoying app stores if possible. Since I'm mainly used to read manga on my PC and Laptop with CBR.I'll give the Kobo Libra Colour a try, thanks again everyone
>>288361234i read portrait?
>>288345479You're worse than audiophiles.
>>288363181Why do you read portrait, well knowing that manga is supposed to be read in two page spreads?
>>288361217>Your E-readerbigme 7 color>Distance from your face to itaround 35cm>What's the smallest version you can read when you load this pdf into it7pt comfortably, 6pt is annoying
>>288363285i prefer portrait>manga is supposed to be read in two page spreads?whats the point in having 2 entire pages on screen when you only read from the page youre looking kek
>>288363285NTA, is there a program that can discern left page - right page - spread - unrelated scanlator insert to do landscape well? Can a ebook do it? Is there a not-insanely priced ebook big enough for landscape manga?
>>288363532>Can a ebook do it? Is there a not-insanely priced ebook big enough for landscape manga?ebook = file format, ereader = reading device
>>288363532epub files have the layout built in.10" is the minimum size you can realistically read that way. A used Kindle Scribe is likely your cheapest option.
>>288363402You read two pages at once. You start with the right side and then the left and occasionally you'll look back at the panels you already left to cross reference contents. If you just saw the right page you wouldn't even know when you hit a spread.The only reason you prefer portrait is because you got the wrong device and try to justify your errors.
>>288363285Human eye can only see one panel at a time
>>288363888>The only reason you prefer portrait is because you got the wrong device and try to justify your errors.portrait is comfier
>>288363945>>288363402
>>288364130
>>288364158
>>288364181>>288364158>>288364130these are all fine as single page kek, even on my surface which i use for eromanga i use portrait and the screen on that is massive
>>288363888This might be blasphemy for some, but I just use "rotate spreads" in KCC and physically rotate my Kindle when a spread appears
>>288344974How much power does a tablet need to read Manga AND play Project Sekai
>>288363945Tell us as a user of a 4k monitor or 13" tablet.Coming from somebody with a 7" device it's not very convincing.
>>288344974I have a samsung tablet, can't remember the model but it was one of the fancier ones. It's perfect for my needs. Manga is great and I have access to my 3TB Kavita server. Readera for reading LNs etc. I wanted to get an actual ereader for LNs but the ones I've tried were too laggy and offered nothing more than a normal tablet aside battery life and weight.
>>288365163>>288364218
>>288365322>offered nothing more than a normal tablet aside battery life and weight.Try taking a tablet outside to read.
>>288365466Eromanga doesn't count, same for 4koma. Those are sold in larger formats and you have to compromise to read them on a display smaller than B4.
>>288365487That's a valid point, but I'm a neet tho. The few times I go outside I never wanted to have something to read, I'd rather space out and think about random stuff. Anything that's pocketable would be too small to read stuff in as even with books I don't want to constantly move to the next page, and anything too big would be like my tablet and would need a bag, which I don't use as when I go out I only take my phone and wallet.I almost bought a kobo libra color, but the text formatting options are almost nonexistant compared to Readera.
Remember to get a remote for your tablet so you can read without constantly holding/touching the thing.
>>288345324Too fucking small
seriously, if the tablet isnt good for double page, then its useless. the prevalence of single pagers is actually degrading the potential of manga as a medium, as more artists start to pander to it.
i use jailbroke one of the boox tablets and put a firewall up to block all the bloatware shit that came with it and now use that. it does pretty well and i can use an OCR program on it to look up japanese text in a dictionary so i can read raws easily too
>>288345194Fpbp, buying a tablet or color ereader are the worst options. The only real options are purchasing print or a black and white ereader.
>>288346893does using a filter app like f.lux not solve the blue light problems? I haven't given it a try myself but my brother reads with the filter on all the time and it seems fine.
What is the cheapest tablet I could get that isn't an e-reader? Only requirement really is running mihon forks, I'm too lazy to download and stock up on recent chapters every time they come out.
>>288366461>manga as a medium, as more artists start to pander to it.Why mangaplus defaults to vertical, mister anime expert?
>>288368152Does anybody know? Japanese sites all default to double page layout.
>>288366461>more artists start to pander to it.True, many web-only releases not only avoid spreads but fill all 4 edges of every page, as if they don't expect to ever be printed.
>>288345324this
>>288344974I bought a used 13 inch tablet laptop hybrid that I used for a bit. I liked the size, but the weight wasn't very comfy. If I had any use for it, I'd probably get a tablet, but $1000 to read manga would be silly.
