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Chapter 17-A of this epistolary rollercoaster yuri.
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When did she become Haruyo's Sumi-chan?
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>>288349801
You were holding out on purpose, weren't you?
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>>288349985
Baruyo about to fuck shit up.
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>>288350114
>Sumichan is a masochist now
Getting ever closer to the petplay doodle...
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Igarashi you madwoman.
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>>288350142
Oh, she was here all along? I just assumed she started as a student teacher.
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>>288349851
This title page is intense.
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You already know why this TL took so long. Second half of this chapter's raws are out tomorrow.
https://mega.nz/folder/SqoEGRrY#SDVv5jKw1zKuJpLDAyp0mg
Sylph 36+37 are mostly done. Aizawa skipped this month.
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>>288350250
>You already know why this TL took so long
Boxcutter wounds?
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>>288350250
Kinda funny she dyed her hair as a teacher as opposed to a student. Or was that just a side effect of getting the alien parasite removed? Also devil horns look slightly more normal than the eyestalks.
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So what will be the twist here?
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I find it funny that Kasumi's idea of protecting Haruyo is avoidance, while Haruyo's inversely is "behead those who insult imouto".
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>>288350376
Yurika is still grooming middle schoolers and dumps them once they reach high school, just like Aoyama.
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>>288350403
So Yurika is Chiki and Aoyama is Takasora?
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>>288350376
Sensei is waiting for Aoyama to become legal again, her whole 'played with and then discarded by onee-sama' was all an unfortunate misunderstanding.
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>>288350403
>>288350420
The difference is that Chiki isn't a teacher, if she is doing this she will end exactly like Itsuki did.
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>>288350250
>Aoyama was 12 or 13 when Yurika started fucking her
No wonder she's messed up.
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>>288349801
Are you okay, noighd?
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>>288350250
>Aizawa skipped this month.
That gives you the perfect opportunity to translate Kuzushiro's ghost yuri oneshot instead.
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>>288350623
Isn’t that already translated?
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>>288350641
Well fuck how the hell did I miss that? And here I've been waiting impatiently.
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>>288350763
It was only uploaded to Dynasty so that might be how.
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>>288350250
>maximum student age gap grooming
Aoyama looks so cute here. Next update is going to be completely fucked up

Haruyo about to go scorched earth on someone trying to hurt Kasumi was based at least. The way Haruyo reacts later in that scene where she’s “overwriting” Aoyama makes me think she’s getting more conscious of Kasumi
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>>288350918
Her facial expression makes me believes that she remembers how Kasumi called this sort of thing lewd beforehand.
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>>288350250
Is Yurika meant to come off as backhanded there?
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>>288350142
>You Pee Sensei
What did Igarashi mean by this?
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>>288349891
I like this cute panel of spreading the sheet, looks like it's from a picture book.
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>>288350161
>>288350183
How is this alien hiding her antenna? Some advanced disguise tech?
>>288350250
Oh, that looks better than before.
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what do LGD girls think of big strong LGD thighs? Is it a masculine favored body part or does it also spark arousal for correction?
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Is this a monkeys paw on my wish for a student/teacher pairing? They've got the age gap, but the relationship ended when she graduated.
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>>288350250
Hopefully it's not a touchy subject in one way or another but any opinion on the translation of Dominant? Did you hear from them beforehand or did it come as a surprise?
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tfw we’re now categorically her enemy because we pirated the paid volume bonuses and leaflets…
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>>288352013
We all boughted though.
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>>288349801
was refreshing dynasty every day just for this TL.
arigatou
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>>288352013
普通に病んでいて草.
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>>288352337
Kusakunai death
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Volume 9 should have a scene of Renako masturbating while watching her girlfriends furiously being fucked by men.
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>>288352013
Least insane Igarashi tweet.
Remove the female melodrama and it's mostly reasonable,given how normal chapters are free anyway. L
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>>288350072
>Dig in your nails
Kinky
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>>288350051
They are starting to get lewd... How far do you think they will be corrupted? Way beyond box cutter level?
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He's feeling his asexuality melt away when he sees lesbians who need dick.
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>>288350250
Aoyama used to look so cute and innocent.
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>WHAT IS A WOMAN?!
Her boyfriend sex slave
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So I was thinking that maybe Sumi would be way more uncomfortable with this and a little hesitant to acknowledge the potentially sexual nature of this play she's doing after being confronted by Aoyama last chapter. But it seems both her and Paruyo are either into it or still don't fully realize exactly what they're doing.
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>WHAT IS A WOMAN?!
a person entirely defined by her boobs (in LGD)
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>>288349851
Whose eyes are these?
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Men could have had her...
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>>288350051
I read your TL note (post 'em here dammit) but I think you went too far in the other direction. I'd say "won't you?" hits a more subtle middle ground that implies the imperative without stating it outright, conveying the expectation.
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>>288354094
Blue mountain, you can tell by the lashes.
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>>288354094
Aoyama from the previous chapter.
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>grooming is wrong, actually
what does the author mean by this?
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>>288354173
Her eyes are pure sex
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How did she go from this >>288350250 to this >>288354173 ?
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So true. There are not enough LGD LNs where the protagonist has weekly makeout sessions with their imoutos and men.
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>>288354367
We're gonna find out in just a little more than one tomorrow.
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>>288354218
The real problem is not taking responsibility. Grooming a girl and then dumping her is just wrong
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She's the straightest girl in Liebe after all
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>>288354452
This.
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Honestly, I'd welcome the LGD aliens with open arms at this point. Arume, please come and take over the planet already, it HAS to be preferable to the current trashfire we live in.
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>>288350072
>>288350101
Good thing she's wearing stockings or she might've gotten pregnant
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You can tell by this point the author already realized there isn't much of a point in omni shipping and just established those two are already a thing, though the girls in this series are slutty too so even scenarios of a LGD orgy would not be that OOC here.
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>>288350205
Imagine how much fun Yurika is having fucking with Aoyama no a daily basis. It must be even better than when she was actually fucking her.
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>>288355802
Typical alien trolling
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Should there be more battle LGD? Given a good choreography and stuff.
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>>288352013
And just when I thought Igarashi couldn't get anymore based. Dirty gaijin btfo.
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Why aren't shoujo hands more common in LGD? Do LGDfags not find them attractive?
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>>288352013
これだから害人は
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>>288356275
>害人
Sad but true.
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Least radicalized LGD fan.
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>>288354222
That’s why she had to hide them in middle school
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>>288350101
Holy that third panel face
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>>288353509
They acknowledged it once and Kasumi felt guilty about finding it sexually stimulating when Haruyo wasn’t intending it to be. Then they kind of cooled off. It seems like she’s now willing to confront those feelings again if only to undo Aoyama’s touch and replace it with Onee-sama’s. Though Haruyo does look like by this time her feelings are changing too. They certainly know exactly what they’re doing but it’s hard to say if they’ll push further on their own or if it’s going to take further outside interference
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>>288350114
Faggots the both of them.
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Paruyo's canonical reaction to being told 'harder, daddy'. I wonder what her classmates would say.
Big bro certainly would be proud.
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Is Sumi-chan the best example of a power bottom?
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>>288351904
I'm still hoping a little this won't be the one time in this manga a relationship is actually hopeless.
I still want Aoyama and Sensei to find together...
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>>288356680
She feels like a very classical imouto in that kind of dynamic. They usually tend to be power bottoms, though its normally because the onee-san is more emotionally unstable than our Paruyo is.
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Osananajimi LGD is just so peak
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>>288352013
>we’re
I bought physical and digital, sorry guys but I'm one of the good gaijin.
And to be honest, not wanting the volume bonus spread is a much more reasonable take than seething over free tl of the already freely available release chapters.
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>>288356679
That's a Baruyo. She's a natural top, Sumichan just needs to give a green light.
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>>288350615
Not likely. I'd written up a lot to say but somehow lost it, and diving into these thoughts again takes me down far. Scanlation used to be simple and now it's like every new series invents new issues. I said I felt trapped last time and that may be the most accurate way to fit it in a word. I haven't even looked at the new sketches Igarashi's posted because it honestly doesn't feel right.
I tend to assume the worst in others so I appreciate the responses last thread being more understanding than expected.

To not sound completely depressed I'll post the notes page I made yesterday after feeling completely depressed.

>>288354144
I wanted to make it abundantly clear she was dropping her persona, and also capture that sense of insistence and neediness. She is being more commanding and senpai-like with Haruyo recently, so while it's an overcorrection to capture one nuance it's not so off. Have to wonder what Haruyo thinks though, considering she has no context for the sudden knee massage despite Kasumi previously being touchy about being touched.

>>288351995
I genuinely had no plans to translate it so it's nice someone is. I didn't know about it in advance but I've not been very reachable lately.
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>>288349924
onee-sama

>>288349985
onee-chan
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The irony is that they mention all classic LGD manga have men but in all those stories the guys are actively messing around with the girls, so particularly the best examples to ask why people want more of this, even more considering there are stills works like this.
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why do all the side couples have mental illness? what is igarashi trying to tell us?
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>>288356933
If it makes you feel a little better you can always remove the volume extras and just not post them off here the next time you translate them. Being hated so much by someone you admire must suck.
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Lessons you have learned from LGD?
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>>288356933
Noighd, I will tell you what I told you last time, stop projecting yourself in those works, you want them to succeed, you want the author to be happy, publishing and their personal lives are far more complicated than you asking people to press the like button, you are getting upset over things that have nothing to do with you.

Scanlating is very simple, you like a work, you translate it and edit, so others will read it, you clearly do it because you honestly enjoy the community aspect of it, you enjoy the idea others will enjoy the work, you are not begging US$35 to translate a webnovel chapter a day, then when you bank US$3500,00 you suddenly go missing for several months and go back to translate a chapter every month, money that you can be pretty sure considering how much the dollar is worth in japan would mean a lot for the author whose decade long dream is to move out so she can finally live in a place where they allow pet cats and also more than most official translators made their whole life translating shit.

Japanese publishers, US companies, their talking points are nothing but pure hypocrisy, they have zero interest in bringing the work here because they don't make so much money and yet they will accuse you of messing their business, if anything if the work do get localized, it will be because you made people aware of it with your translation, if people are importing the series, it is because you made them aware of it by your translation. Those same companies will also have ZERO issues selling the license to some retarded website doing AI translations, they just don't give a single shit about the work or about any of us and the author hating "you", is nothing more than their platform to tell you to fuck off, if she is upset about it is because they made her upset about it.
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>>288357429
It sucks that even if AriSaku got licensed, we would be paying two to three times the cost of a JP volume for a worse translation. And Igarashi wouldn't even receive as much money.
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Why are 7 out of 10 josei yuri about a bislut woman falling for a closeted lesbian with a husband or fiance?
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I’m glad we’ve been getting an influx of CF LGD lately. And it’s all been kino

>Tsukushi looking super awkward on Hinoka’s lap
>it’s just because Tsukushi is the top and the vibes are off
Love the two of them. Can’t wait for the “sleepover” with men
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>>288357606
This work isn't josei, it's seinen. Answering your question, it's because the josei demographic are mostly women in their 30s or older who are mostly interested in adult relationship drama, the heterosexual works published for this audience are not that differently and will often involve ex husbands or ex boyfriends because it is what is most relatable to this demographic, a bisexual is for a lot of those a "could be me" character.
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>>288350035
What a HARLOT.

>>288350250
I really wonder how this is going to play out. Will we see our first failed couple? Will senpaisei come back crawling to her once lover? Was it all a misunderstanding(tm)?

Thanks for the dump noighd.
Sorry to hear you're feeling down from Igarashi's tweets. I don't think I can say anything that can lighten that pressure, but you know as well as anyone else here how divorced from reality this whole anti-scanlation thing is. She sells objectively more volumes thanks to your labour of love for the manga and more people can enjoy this work thanks to it. And I say that only reading the jp version anyway, because I learned japanese for yuri but still come here because where else can you talk about AriSaku? Nowhere.
I somewhat sympathise with the stance on the volume bonus, but if you didn't translate AriSaku I guarantee 100% we'd have instead gotten menhara tweets about no one reading the manga.
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>>288357727
>Nowhere
img.
>we'd have instead gotten menhara tweets about no one reading the manga.
says a lot about you.
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>>288357762
Yes, it says I've seen this exact story play out a million times already.
The attention economy for manga is completly insane, and the whole issue was triggered by her being upset people didn't go and liked the manga to show engagement (which is actually fair).
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Kanon is a retard who can't read the room. Saki was going to say that she loves men but isn't ready for a relationship with them, only for Kanon to mouth-rape her as if that will solve all her problems.
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>>288357809
It says you’re incompetent enough to find discussions of it in JP and use that as a proxy for how shit the series would do without gaijin help. Insanely delusional.
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>Fishe x Aunt X Men from Ooshima
Finally, a supported of the true heroine!
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>>288352013
don't care lol. Also clearly westerngods have bought stuff
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>>288357633
>CF LGD
What?
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>>288358109
Don't answer tranny shitposters you fucking retard
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>>288352013
Why not just nuke the paid bonus scans? Do that then we are no longer enemy of her :)
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Iroha and Renako are for men
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I don't like how the story is heading for this arc.
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>>288358532
How so?
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>>288358532
For Kasumi or the teacher/student?
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>>288358548
I can't describe it. I really disliked the scene with Kasumi and Haruyo.

>>288358549
Both. Neither the librarian nor the teacher seemed like good people.
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I am just afraid Kurumi saying she didn't want Puruyo to meet the librarian for her tobe involed with sensei who is much worse is probably a sign bad things may happen
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>>288358727
Oh wow I didn't get a single name right
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>>288358594
Sexualization of minors?
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Shit makes no sense, no one'd know anything about this series if not for these TLs. This way she's getting site likes and occasional sales instead of nothing.
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>>288359003
yeah without global fans’ support this would’ve been axed
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>>288359051
this but unironically
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>>288358594
>Neither the librarian nor the teacher seemed like good people.
The teacher is almost too obviously a shitty person that I'm expecting some sort of reveal. The librarian just feels like someone hurt lashing out. Yeah she was horrible to Kasumi, but its jealousy and anger that I kinda get.

>>288359051
It definitely helped sales, objectively even the two or three anons who posted their purchases are a +. No one who can read the original didn't buy because of the TL.
But I don't know if it was ever axe threatened. I saw yurilyrical and others already advertise it since vol1, so its not as "no one fucking knows it exists" as say ユリノコ.
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>>288359051
this but ironically
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>>288357582
>And Igarashi wouldn't even receive as much money.
Dunno how common it is, but apparently they get paid peanuts.
Something else I was reading which got licensed had the TL reconsidering just dropping it or something like that when they learned how little the mangaka gets out of it.
Though they dropped it in the end anyway.
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>>288357582
>>288359632
So are you buying or not?
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>>288359051
No, this is going too far, it definitely didn't save the series anons, you would require like a thousand anons to make a notable difference.

>>288359245
This is another point, you can be pretty sure nips are not looking into noighd scans if they want to see if for free, so they only got extra sales from this. To me it's very obvious it's just the publisher demonizing scans and the author buying into it because it's a culture nips cannot understand, they only understand it as morally and legally wrong, which really doesn't mean much in the corporate "fuck you we hire the laziest third world shithole employers to use AI to do our work" world.
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>>288356933
>sketches
I honesty find these more puzzling considering that there's no way to pay for these since they're just on her social media but as I said last time, her reaction is more emotional than logical. Still, maybe keep them on the mega without compiling on mangadex to limit the spread.
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I just want to point out the irony of an author who refuses to have an X account which would immensely help her promote her work talking about sales.
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>>288360522
>because it's a culture nips cannot understand,
Tellingly, in one of her earlier tweets she raged that she wished people would read the original release on the website instead.
Intellectually they are aware of it, but the fact that the people reading the scanlation CANNOT read the original isn't on her radar when she makes these posts. Nips are mentally just too insular to really 'get' most other people in the world are actually not japanese.
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>>288350101
Jezas
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>>288360879
> she raged that she wished people would read the original release on the website instead.
Link to proof you didn’t embellish it for your agenda.
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Whether you assume the fraction of pirates who end up buying the original is 1% or 0.1%, I can assure you the number of gaijin who can read Japanese buying is an order of magnitude smaller.
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>>288361180
Bigger*
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>>288361180
0.1% is way too optimistic, 0.005% is more like it.
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>>288361141
What agenda? Get off or on your meds. We all love the manga and I bear her no ill will at all. I think she is being absurd about this.
>>288361180
Anyone liking the work who can read japanese wil read the monthly release, not noighds translation. I don't even need to argue about the conjecture of the buying part, because anyone who can read japanese and doesn't buy it wouldn't without the translation either.
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sorry but I'm not gonna buy a manga before reading it
that's not a gamble I'm taking
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>>288361278
You outed yourself with ‘rage’. Without you quoting verbatim to support that I can only read is as malicious.
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>>288361267
We have something like 100 4chan readers and 5 buyers. That is by no means a representative sample but if you assume the pirated version hits a million views via spread (which is an overestimatation), that would be 50 sales based on your estimation, which doesn't track either. I'm assuming something on the order of 100k pirates and 100 buyers.
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>>288361535
I don't think there is much point in arguing about the numbers we can't even do proper conjecture on. Only a fraction of the people buying the manga here would feel the need to post it. Generally only the ones buying physical (a minority) and of those how many would bother posting it? I certainly never did.
There is a strong culture around buying works you like and provably gajin sales can make a difference but AriSaku only has over 8k bookmarks on mangadex compared to, for example, 47k for Love Bullet.
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Sure, I raped Igarashi, but I was right to do it. Solving Japan's birth rate crisis is far more important than her feelings. I know what's best for her, and she'll realize it once those motherly hormones start up.
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>>288361676
I think that breaks US law anon
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>>288361676
Noighd...
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>>288361647
Pirates need to be goaded super hard to have any noticeable conversion. Something I work on has 39k and not even a reprint while the author sometimes copes with optimism about sales numbers.
The point is how good the work is, how big the reader base and other factors do play a roll, but it's really down to execution how the scanlator can get most of the pirates to perform an act they don't normally do. It's not something you can just expect otherwise because the numbers are always lower than you can imagine, with few exceptions.
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The cultural mentality of “piracy bad” is simply never going to be resolved. Frankly I don’t understand the issue when the series is not licensed for an English translation and fan translations have never been a hurdle for a manga getting licensed. No publisher has ever said “well some guy did it for free, so we’re not going to bother getting our cut of the pie”

A fan translation can only get more eyes on to a series, and any sales that get generated are sales you never ever would have had without the fan translation. Even beyond that, if/when it does get licensed that means you already have an audience base who would want to get a physical copy on top of new readers who have an easier point of entry
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you're all just a rounding error compared to domestic sales, stop being narcissistic
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>>288361869
>Something I work on has 39k and not even a reprint while the author sometimes copes with optimism about sales numbers.
I do have to point out that we also don't know how much the japanese are buying a given work.
At any rate, the question isn't really how many people reading a scanlation buy the work. The question is, how many 'more' people are buying the work that wouldn't if the scanlation didn't exist? And the answer is always 1+. Objectively the scanlation is a benefit, regardless of what the conversion ratio is.
And the industry knows this advertisement matters, which is why releasing chapters for free online has become the standard.

Calling scanlation piracy is a gross misrepresentation, because piracy means copying a existing work. But commercially scanlation 'creates' a product that didn't exist, which provides commercial value that otherwise wouldn't be produced. Regardless of legality, its not the same thing.
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>>288361906
I kept the manga from getting axed by giving an いいね every single chapter.
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>>288361906
I personally prevented it from getting axed with my emails to the Kadokawa editorial department.
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>>288361906
I kept it from getting axed with my occasional MangaDex comments
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if victim-complex-kun was really saving this manga he'd be making fan art and youtube videos of arisaku
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>>288361906
I made the staff at an animate put it back into the shelves after it had run out without them noticing.
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>>288362016
who? Is there some third party I'm missing
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>>288362081
We're victimized by Igarashi's comments... We're a force of good, just misunderstood.
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>>288361877
Unless you get licensed after 1 volume, it's irrelevant to the discussion, really. The majority of manga lives or dies in under 5 volumes and only the latest volume gives salesfags boners. You can see series get volume 1 reprinted all the time and still axed because sales over time doesn't matter much for marketability and retention after the 1st volume is not guaranteed.

Basically, the small guys are always on the losing end and understandably frustrated unless foreign influence can put enough money where its mouth is.

>>288361964
Yes, we keep doing this because we believe it's ultimately a positive, even if operating in a gray zone (non-legitimate, the gravest sin for the yamato race), but there certainly has been much corruption of perception and expectation of the whole thing over time. At the very least, we should be graceful about it and not do retarded things or make grandstanding claims.
The whole discussion has gotten much worse since the side with numbers failed to keep itself from overflowing and staying silent.
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>>288362114
then make igarashi rich or least influence her high in the yuri illuminati council, she has proven herself
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As I said before, mangaka needs to make enough money to eat, but not enough they can stopped working, we learned this the hard way with Manio.
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If we want the manga to be successful, people other than yurifags need to read it, and for that, we need to get rid of the yuri tag. It already has the perfect cover with a single girl on the cover of the first two volumes.
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>>288362602
Why stopped there, just add guys to the story, make them date the girls so no one will suspect they are dykes too.
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>>288362602
But the ratings, dood
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every time the thread is bumped anons browsing the catalog get exposed to it THOUGH
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>>288361647
>8k bookmarks on mangadex
Which is a fine number to use as a reference point. Based on the level of discussion surrounding the series, it hardly seems reasonable to assume it's hitting views in the millions, so you can take that figure as somehwere between 1-10% of total views. We don't have IP counters anymore but based on thread activity we're looking at somewhere between 10 and 100 users. That doesn't necessarily account for lurkers, but realistically, who actually just lurks 4chan to await noighd thread dumps as opposed to just checking in on mangadex? The point of a dump thread isn't just to read, it's to engage. The lurker count isn't going to push us much higher beyond that. So saying 4chan pirates have a 1% buy rate of AriSaku specifically is reasonable, but again, not a representative sample. Order of magnitude approximation is a fine tool to extrapolate figures. Saying that this thread represents more than 10% of pirate buyers is absurd. So in the lowest case, you get 100k views and 100 sales from piracy.

Admittedly this says nothing about gaijin Japanese readers who buy without pirating in the first place, but these genuinely seem like unicorns. Do they simply seamlessly blend in to Japanese discussion, or do they prefer staying on gaijin forums once the series gets exposed via piracy?
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>>288362540
igarashi isn't like manio at all
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>>288362892
The point is the same, you can't let them be happy or they will run away.
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>>288362892
The moment she figures out she and Haneda can just pool their money for an apartment + cat the manga is doomed.
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>>288362966
They’d just play with pussies all day
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Well I just hope she keeps writing it and we keep getting translations, it's my current favorite manga.
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>>288362931
considering igarashi is self inserting as kasumi who is a paranoid schizo with a guilt and inferiority complex, who is also leaning into innocence cynicism, I doubt she will stop the manga cold without telling what she wants to tell
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>>288362126
You do realize the grandstanding is just propaganda to manipulate others into buying, yes? You need to make people believe their purchase is the difference between the axe and continuation.
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>>288363236
I meant grandstanding as in boasting about paying in exposure
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>>288363269
A good scanlator will buy at least one copy for themselves and actively shill the official release, which is more than simply "paying in exposure".
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>>288363487
I'm not talking about the scanlator
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>>288362641
People will pick up yuri if they don’t know it’s yuri from the start. Once they get used to the story, then introduce the yuri.
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One day I'll win the lottery and then I can afford to buy all the manga that I read.
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>>288363611
bot
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>>288363865
Too late, all of them would be axed at that point.
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>>288363611
The first thing any editor with a brain will say to you will be
>How about we don't introduce the yuri at all since the people buying are not buying it for it.
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>>288364094
I will buy the rights and revive the axed manga.
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By that logic this wasn't LGD
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>>288364097
This manga didn’t explicitly start with romance either. It started with a call-back to a type of relationship that didn’t have to be sexual in nature.
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AriSaku has the seal of approval from OneeKyo's author.
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>>288364538
Its specifically inspired by the Hana Monogatari anon. It was always romantic.
S Culture WAS romance. The seriousness of the romance of every participant was dubioua, but the romance was the point.
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Men are so lucky
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>>288364695
>0いいね
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>>288364538
It didn't need to, they were explicitly promoting it to the yuri audience, so the expectations were already set up for yuri developments, what you are asking for is pure nonsense, you want to trick readers into buying something pretending not to be yuri, but if you already got your audience with something that isn't yuri, then there is zero reason to add yuri developments.
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>>288364739
Hana Monogatari was a popular work in the genre, but did not start it. Plus regardless of the actual origins, many people later understood it to be platonic. Just see how S got rebranded as sisters and Maronite’s general interpretation of the relatiomship. Even Sumi doesn’t seem to understand that hat their relationship is romantic yet.
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>>288356933
This is Haruyo's context, to recall. She says that she must be a dirtier as the onee-sama for doing so but obviously she's just trying to comfort Kasumi because there was no conscious intention her own part (subconscious is another matter). She does adapt by asking for consent but tellingly still does show more evidence of her subconscious desires (who stuffs their hands inside someone's coat when going for a hug?). This time, there's no subconscious buffer here. Kasumi is telling her, I want you to touch me in a dirty way, and do it harder. She likely won't dwell much on it, writing it off with "well, she asked for it", but in that moment, based on her facial expression, she knew this time was different.
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>>288364998
Don't worry, I approved his approval.
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>>288365165
Just because you don’t advertise with the yuri label doesn’t mean the audience will be against a yuri relationship. Moon did this very recently and it’s a far more popular manga. In my view, a more general audience wante to fall in love with a relationship between two girls first and then watch it become yuri rather than be spoiled about the outcome from a he start.
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Why is poly LGD the only thing that sells?
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>>288365707
The ambiguity you could argue exists within the first volume of Arisaku does not exist within moon, people are reading a story about a girl who is in love with another girl and naturally would expect this plot to develop in this direction. This argument you are making could have been done for hundreds of previous works which in fact did not have yuri developments, who said the audience of those worms would be against yuri developments? Some of those even had something neither Moon or Arisaku have, thousands of fanarts pairing the girls together and even so they still decided that "doesn’t mean the audience will be against a yuri relationship" is not a strong argument in favor of it.
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LGD pair who canonically had the sex with a man?
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>>288365439
NTA but it seems like you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Class S was. Class S was always based on the word "sister", and Class S relationships were romantic without being sexual/physical, which is different from being platonic. Sumi already believes her relationship is romantic.
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Mari and Akko with men, see chapter 34
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>>288366350
>had the sex
Lmao
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Dark Elf with Fading Magic Powers got a reprint.
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>>288367514
Literally who?
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>>288367586
A manga with a female protagonist that has a female co-protagonist.
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Every time after Miyagi spent 30 minutes with Utsunomiya and a man.
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>>288365502
I wouldn’t mind seeing a solo Haruyo chapter some time soon. I don’t think we’ve seen that since back when she was freaking out over discovering Sumi-chan was actually older than her.

It would be nice to see more from her perspective about how she’s really feeling about Kasumi. The lines between reality and their S-play keep getting blurrier and it’s obvious she’s aware of it. I just want to see what’s going on in her head
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What's up with the deaf girl? Threesome with a man soon?



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