Are you an otaku for otaku culture?Personally, I'm looking through a book regarding otaku culture to not just find out more about it but to see it all laid out, namely "Erotic Comics in Japan: An Introduction to Eromanga" by Nagayama Kaoru and it's suuuper interesting
I like anime and mangaI hate otaku and weebsI hate anybody who makes media consumption their personality, really
>>288358475Then fuck off.
>>288358468It's fun reading the history of the medium, how it interacted with fans and led up to today. It's kind of like Hollywood in that it is a creative medium that exists in the space of a commercial product. For me, seeing the interaction between making art and making a product is really interesting, and fans are the fuel for the whole thing.Put another way, there isn't an industry built around selling Van Gogh pillowcases, Homeric erotic fan-stories or pvc statuettes of Michaelangelo's works.
>>288358468Is there a general thesis of the book you can summarize? Or is it more an encyclopedia?I have some interest in history, and that extends to anime, but I wouldn't call myself an otaku otaku. It's very casual. I read Beautiful Fighting Girl and found it interesting; I'll eventually get around to both of Hiroki Azuma's books written in response.BFG's main claim is (IIRC, it's been a while) that otaku are defined by their fiction-oriented sexuality (Azuma even goes so far as to speculate that only otaku can jerk off to orgasm to a fictional character), which makes them want to possess fictional worlds. But they understand that these worlds aren't real, so they end up psychosexually playing around. "The fake is of far greater value", and as an extension they love parody, fanworks, moving elements around, consider the engagement with fiction rather than fiction itself to be something sacred.
>>288358898>>288358898I'm uploading this shit to catbox 'cuz I was not willing to spend sixty bucks for it and it took forever to find it.https://files.catbox.moe/is44tr.pdfI'm still in the middle of reading it, but it does go into H manga examples and name drops motherfuckin' maka fushigi.. it's so cool.
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>>288358898>(Azuma even goes so far as to speculate that only otaku can jerk off to orgasm to a fictional character)I told this to my friend a bit ago and they told me it's so FUCKING stupid and that even normies can cum to anime... Which I guess is true, actually. But it does sound cool and funny when you say it aloud like that.
>>288359185Thanks, anon. Sounds really neat.>>288359314Yeah, it's a prediction that aged like already sour milk (written in 2000). The rest of the book is worth checking out, though, even if only for historiographic purposes.
>>288359185thanks anon I will now save it to one of my external hard drives and procrastinate on reading it for at least 5 years
>>288358468You should try books by Patrick W. Galbraith, the translator of that Eromanga by Nakagawa.
>>288359424That name keeps coming up in my research.He seems really cool and important, he also narrated the "tokyo realtime" audio guide akihabara tour, which I found both insightful and amusing.He also really seems to like moe girls, which I can appreciate.
>>288359390This makes me think of a paper I read a while back about sekai-kei and how, of all things, Weathering With You was the most famous rejection of the concept, you know>my girl over the worldexcept all of the framing of it wasn't villanous at all which is usually the type for those for that line of thinking, so even if I did like it less than Your Name, it's memorable for that at least
>>288359390I mean he's right, moe worship is worship in the jungian sense
>>288358468all otakuwank anime sucks because it comes from a place of hypocrisy and percieved victimhood
>>288359623I haven't seen either of those films, so I don't fully get what you mean, but the overall idea makes sense.>>288359636Agreed. Reminds me of religious icons, too. In the same way an icon might become gradually darkened with incense, a copied image of an anime girl gradually collects psychological associations...
>>288359390>>288359636>>288359828It reminds me of the local Marian devotions here in Southern Europe or at places like LATAM
>Beautiful Fighting Girl>Database Animalswhat other books do I have to read before truly understanding the mind of the otaku
>>288358468I was an otaku back in 2004. Downloading what ever was avilable at the time from the past 30 years was amazing. Then I grew up. Obsessing over anime isn't the way at all. Tempering and moderating what you watch works far far better for me. I like anime. I love some anime. I obsess over certain anime. There is no reason to let the entire medium ruin your life or hijack who you are.
>>288358468I think there's a limit to how much you can learn from books.
>>288360317To truly understand the way of the otaku, you kinda have to take that bullet and go to japan, and all that. I did but it's honestly not that much different from just watching anime alone, the times have changed too much. Although the upside is (if you're fluent), you get to do stuff you only thought was possible in 2D. In the span of a year since coming here I've>gone to comiket>joined a circle>drawn a page for a group doujinshi
>>288359185Thanks anon!>The artist recalls encountering eroticism in childrens manga.Interesting start...
>>288359185thanks for the virus faggot, much appreciated!
