How are we cooking her?
>that chapteri would've just offed myself desu
Abandon thread, this one might get pruned later just like last week.
>>288362263I would have sued the wife.>>288362315I wonder why that happened anyway.
>>288362315>prunedWhat? I used the thread for a few days did it actually get deleted manually?
>>288362483One before that got deleted without explanation.
>Where you are now, I once was. >And what I am, you soon will be.
Very sure the previous OP got permaban for something. He didn't even write op in the same format he always do
How did his little wife beat him up so bad?
>>288362577So is this thread also going to get killed?
Maaan this chapter fucking hurts. Ryou went back to her Shounen no Abyss days.Taiki's memories depicted as ghosts felt K I N O..
>>288362577Didn't OP admit he was trolling in other threads?
>>288362105She is COOKED
>>288362585Emotionally.Taiki was infertile (1st stab), then found out he was cucked bc the child wasn't his (2nd and fatalest stab).Mikoma shall take notes, or else story will repeat itself.
Someone dump it god dammit.
I'm willing to dump it, but here or Haunted Peak title thread?
>>288362532This is so fucking cool though the chapter is miserable.
WOMEN
>>288362459>>288362498If you check the catalog at the moment, there are currently three Weekly Shounen Jump "generals" existing, same kind situation as last week. These flooding got pruned at the same time when Sangeki thread also got deleted.
Just fucking dump
>>288362700Do it, if this gets deleted we can make a new thread.
If you want to make the thread but don't want to dump it, better not make it in the first place.
Is this bitch already worse than Yuko?
>>288362666Second time in a row Ryou makes the father figure infertile
>>288362700Haunted Peak thread for archival purpose.
>>288362788Yes, wtf OP? Where are you?
You guys are retarded
AaaaaghaaaAAAAGAGAHHJUST make a thread or dump it already!!!!
>>288362836
kino chappie
>>288362836Our thread from last week was killed twice...
>>288362864
A fucking leaf
>>288362893
so why is this a 2nd part of the manga according to ryo?
>>288362925
>>288362925>Foreshadowing
>>288362926Second part of what
>>288362925STANDING HERE
>>288362926This is act 2, there are 3 acts in the story, this manga is going to be short.
>>288362952
>>2883629262nd act, previous act was to intoduce the cast, this one is where the conflict begins
>>288362990
>>288362967>>288239658
>>288362700Here, so it doesn't get nuked again.
>>288363022I'm switching to double page
>nip name in the title instead of the name people actually useShame.
>>288362925This is one of the most overt, on the nose parallels. I can't wait for Momiji to beat Mikoma's ass. lmao
Don’t trust women: The Mountain Stories: Boy’s Abyss part 2
>>288362817>>288363036I can just make another thread after this guy
>>288363072
>>288363077>I can't wait for Momiji to beat Mikoma's assShe should atleast take him out to dinner first.
>>288363107
>>288363141
>>288363077I know she is suposed to be a parallel to Momiji, but in the was she was shown at the begining of the flashback you would think she is the total opposite of Momiji, physical and personality wise. Its at the end when you see her face that you can see the similarities
>>288363173Goddamn.
>>288363173
>>288363210So the way I read this panel was different.>I decided I would believe her words even if she lied and said it was wrong.>And if she instead broke down and said sorry, I might have forgiven her.
>>288363173>NTR *unzips*
>>288363223>posting pics during a dumpget some manners and delete your shit
>>288363210Don't ask me to dump next week, niggers!End
I don't like this manga anymore bros
>>288363239No, fuck you. When translations are off, I'll nip them in the bud.
Anons aren't so stupid to believe in marriage right?
>>288363246>Momiji but short hairVery subtle...
>>288363268If only your parents were so kind enough to the rest of us and had extended the same favour
>>288363246Kill all women
>>288363301Owned that pussy he'll probably kill himself now
busty girls? evilflatty girls? also evil
>>288363246Stop Loving Evil Women
>>288363223Yeah the second one especially really came off.
>>288363297She has smaller tits and she wasn't a popular girl like Momiji. From the story one would think Taiki did the right choice for falling in love with her instead of the older woman (who seems more like Momiji based on what Taiki said)
>>288363297I've already seen a theory that the daughter is Momiji, and Leafbro moved to this town so he could spy on her.
NTR guy? Late grandpa.
>>288363256Why? Did you feel identified?
>>288363246Why did she do it?
>>288363256The fuck? This is why I signed up. First Ryou ride?
>>288363246She did nothing wrong. It was his fault for pressuring her into a relationship she didn’t want.Moral of the story? Never be a simp. Have self-respect. Don’t chase after a girl after she already said no. And remain a virgin because women are EVIL by their very nature.
Not only Mikocel should learn a thing or two about Taiki. Kazushit too, insisting on getting a yes from the girl you hopelessly simp is a spell for doom.
>>288363427Yes. Unlike the rest of you I've actually dated evil women. Not to sound like a fag but this chapter spiked my anxiety like you wouldn't believe. Especially the last page.
Women evil?
>>288363480Ruka a shit.
makita will save mikoma
>>288363469>And remain a virgin because women are EVIL by their very nature.That or (extending to abyss) marry someone who's repulsed by those who are around you, but can bring actual emotional salvation.
Who will avenge Gen?
>>288363297>Momiji but short hairShe is not though. Momiji is a popular extrovert that has red flags people wont shut up about. This girl would be the waifu people would want protected at all costs.If anything the point here is that things are not what they appear.
>>288363484NTA. I have a different experience with scary women but I believe you. I was raped. Few other things that made me anxious became less crippling by exposure over long period of time, slowly and carefully, it's still something I hate, but I can atleast breathe thinking about it and keep my train of thought. So if you want to drop this, go right ahead.
>>288363535Yeah, she must learn that, but gets a pass for being underage. Kazushit is an adult.
>>288362925Kino.
Any good woman in this one?
>>288363556From what it seems Makita is following in his themes but she's way less repressed about it and just acts boyish without care.
>>288363556The one who actually looks like Genaro el trolazo... Sakura Minami, AKA Makita
>>288363583Mikoma
>>288363173Bruh.
>>288363576Kazuya and Chizuru love each otherRuka a shitThat is all
>>288363583Momiji was said to be a good woman by a woman friend of hers. And a woman character made by a woman author would never lie to me.
>>288363558>This girl would be the waifu people would want protected at all costs.There is still a reasonable chance the red flags were always there, but he willingly ignored them (just like he was going to resign to being a happy fuck if she confessed) because it conflicted with his ideal of who she really was underneath.
>>288363583Makita unironically.
>>288362666So he is both Esemori and Kazumasa's dad in one. I wonder if she made her daughter's best friend "kill" him next
>>288363534Woman married a man she doesn't like just to cheat on him, that's worse than evil if there's even a word for it.
>>288363246Ryo excels are writing evil women, but she's even better at knowing how to make them exploit men's insecurities and vulnerabilties to truly elevate them to the next level of detestable.She has to have a bitter hateful writing ghost partner to be able to understand men and women both so well.
Not all cheating is NTR, retards. This is just adultry and cruelty, NTR actively involves making the man participate in the bedroom
>>288363246She has a mole!
>>288363246he's getting blackpilled
>>288362952oh right, her name is that leaf
>>288363246Thanks for the dump!
>>288363246Please dump the chapter next week too, Anon.
>>288363246What went wrong with Ryo's life
>the worst she could say is Nostarting to think the worst thing she could say is "Yes"
>>288363916Shit family
Seriously what made her chimp out and beat him until he's disfigured? And I think she's also never actually going to recover from this, neither is the daughter.
>>288363806She said she wrote from her past and small town life. She definitely hated her mother.
>>288363968She just had chunko's family, average woman moment where she just can't get over it.
>>288363965Daughters not his, looks like her, this is Ryou...
>>288363992Yes I got that, I'm saying she will have to grow up with a terrible parent, her Mom. And no Dad.
>>288363965She waited years and suffered through pregnancy just to spite the guy because he was cringe about dating her. Violence isn't about strength, it's about will and he has plenty.
>>288363965>Seriously what made her chimp out and beat him until he's disfigured?He turned 360 degrees and walked away from her. She wasn’t having it.
>>288363986Nope then she'd write from the woman's side alone but she gets into the psyche of ever twist in all genders
>>288363583Makita
>>288363965Most shitty people are just that, born evil
>>288363558You know I think the parallels are not Taiki = Miko, Momiji = ex wife. I think its actually >Miko = ex wife >Taiki = Momiji >Taiki's older gf = RokaThe ex wife personality and role matches Miko more and I don't see the point in what lesson Miko could learn from here given that from Taiki's story there was never a hint that his wife was an evil woman until he chased for another kid. From a meta perspective I think Miko is going to learn the lesson and don't do what Taiki's ex did to him
>>288363246Thanks, I think it was the worst dump I've seen here in a while
>>288363583The feral otaku girl
>>288363378>I've already seen a theory that the daughter is Momiji.This "theory" had no thought put into it. Ebihara had "his" daughter at age 29. He is currently 34. The resemblance is to highlight the obvious parallel between her and Momiji. As a matter of fact, an anon I was chatting with last week brought up the ex-wife may resemble Momiji if only for that reason. Unsurprisingly, he was correct.
>>288363246>character that men will never understand
>>288364210No we get it, Taiki was an idiot for staying interested in her even after being rejected, and she's also a piece of shit for playing along his fantasy just to hurt him so terribly. They're both assholes, one worse than the other.
>>288364014I was making a dark humor joke about him raping the not-daughter. Literally. If it's Ryou there's always a minor or four about to be pimped. But seriously, You have not read Boy's Abyss. She is literally just Yuko. He's couldn't give her a child and she got herself her splitting image from elsewhere. It's the same story except for the Gen part. She still has a bio dad somewhere to seach after like Reiji and if she's lucky he'll be loaded and not in debt. This one isn't her father.
>>288364210Watch the ex-wife pour it on real thick saying he fucked his best friend wingman and had his child too just to spite both of them for pressuring her.This is "your pussy is weird" levels of overreaction. I'm praying it's revealed next chapter that he did do something worthy of betrayal because right now I've no respect for the author.
>>288364190It was me, what I didn't expect is that his ex would have a different personality and that she is thin and petite
>>288362893>I might feel sorry for himdon't be a dickhead miko
>>288362952subtle ryo
>>288363022IT'S THE GHOST OF THE MOUNTAIN!!!LEAF GUY KILLED HIS WIFE.
>>288364210Oh, we understand. Women are inherently evil.
>>288363072>>288363246reminded me of this bitch
>>288364329Kek, it's Taiki reviving his memories.
>>288362105Did you know momiji can mean venison?
>>288363107he deserves it for leaving his hag for some introvert girl.
>>288363246K I N O
>>288363246>tfw your wife cheats on you because you called her a domino
Left a sexy hag for a flat short haired broadDumb nigga
how evil must you be to make your husband raise a child from an affair?
>>288363583Momiji, Makita and that inn girl.
Eddie Murphy told you all in the 80s. Shy bitches are the most devious thing in all existence.
>>288363246its bitches like this give evil women a bad name.
>>288364274>would have a different personalityI would argue the disposition is only externally different. We can already infer the Momiji we have seen so far (sans rare glimpses like pic related and some of Ryou's art) is not who she genuinely is. The bubbly "princess" who everyone in the school loves is her mask. The quiet, introverted good girl was the ex-wife 's mask. But beneath the mask, they're the same flavor of malignant.
>Sees all of this>Decide she's the one anywayDude fell for fixing them with the dick meme!
>>288364488It's not his fault, he was taught wrong by society that pursuing women was the right move.
>>288363107I bet it was one of the wingman friends who made her pregnant
>>288364464Just you wait, she'll tell him it's all his fault and she's doing him a favour by cucking him.
>im jus a smol gurl and you big meenies never took no so I got revenge hahahaI can see it already
>>288364269All the Wingmen had an orgy with her and she doesn't even know which ones the father herself and she's gonna cry victim.
Ryo has a habit of writing men as vulnerable and angry, leading them to be exploited and emotionally abused by women who were traumatized themselves. Taiki will definitely have done *something* wrong in this relationship. Not nearly enough, but Ryo has never written a dynamic where only one person was entirely evil
>>288364792Agreed. I roll my eyes at anons thinking Miko will be the school shooting aggressor despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, but I know he will not be entirely guiltless. He has red flags of his own.
>>288364767hot.
>>288363141>I wanted a son>>288363246>BetrayedWill he turns out to be a chud?
>>288362971I REALIZEEEEEE
>>288364792>writing men as vulnerable and angry, leading them to be exploited and emotionally abused by women who were traumatized themselves.Reiji being the exception where he was actually the latent evil by inheritance and it just took his otp revealing her boohoo CSA story to finally be unleashed.
>>288363246>>288364481She even looks more frightening than Taiki's wife
>>288364792He kinda underplayed it, but he was going after this girl for a whole 6 months after she rejected him. Doesn’t really excuse whatever’s happening here, but he’s shown some bad signs.
>>288364269>>288364767Who in Young Jump decided to pair up Mengo with Aka to create a disaster when they could have created kino pairing with Ryou
>>288365106They also said she was pressured by the baseball manager into going to the initial mixer. Taiki also recruited all his baseball buddies into being his wingman to pressure her to date him even more.She hated all of them, but in her own woman moment way>i feel slighted so anything I do in retaliation is justified no matter the propotionality
>>288365106>Doesn’t really excuse whatever’s happening here, but he’s shown some bad signs.The worst one: being kazushit levels of simp. If someone says no, then it's no.
>>288363173Fuuuuck. What a way to find out you're shooting blanks.
>>288365106Anon asking a person again after they reject you a couple of time is nothing depending of how you asked them, don't try to make Leafman look like an asshole for such a silly thing (tho I admit it might be a cultural difference), he probably did some other shit
>>288363246Top 10 anime betrayals
>>2883652066 months is a long ass time. The girl is a bitch for cheating, but she was definitely pressured into the relationship just to calm Taiki down.
>>288365008Not quite the entire scope of my comment. I don't mean they had to be blamed initially, but that they can become assholes themselves as well. Reiji was a victim turned abuser.
Am I fucked up? I feel like I wouldn't care that much, and just divorce my wife if I found out she cheated.
>>288365206A couple of times is one thing, but it was 6 months, as well as getting his friends to join in.
>>288365358depends on how long you were marriedit can be sobering, honestly and that's time youll never back
>>288362893>plan to avoid a talk so you won't feel sorry for someonelel, Mikoma takes after his asshole parents.
You don't want to accept it but Taiki is the problem in this situation. What his wife did is just the result of his actions.
>>288363141The problem here is that she didn't cheat enough. If she had a son with another man, he would have never found out and they would all still be living happily.
>>288365358Do you have a wife you spent a decade with and you genuinely love? You don't just move on from this.
>>288365555And its harder when you learn that your kid isn't yours
>>288365470ok "normal" woman
>lol betrayed? just get over it>lol you cared? lol he cared!!zoomers dead in mass graves can't come soon enough
>>288365640I don't get the big deal? He's now free to fuck whoever and not worry about kids. He can even adopt and be with someone who actually wants to be his wife. How is this tragedic? He married at 26, that's not too old, his life isn't over or whatever.
>>288365688You are unironically autistic.
>>288365470You mean the result of the wingman's access
>>288362498Op got nuked, was probably spamming in a different thread
>>288365797Okayy, I really want to know how this is supposedly something that killed Taiki twice?
>>288365825Dear autistic, he truly loved her and her betrayal of their marriage was his first death and then her literal murder attempt was the second death.
>>288363246He is Momiji's father, isn't he?>>288365825We have yet to know how he got disfigured.
>>288365688Permanently disfigured in a society that doesn't like nails sticking out. He's fled from the city and his previous life because he has none of it left. Sold his luxury apartment to buy a mountain to start afresh. Met a boy he can pass his manly wisdom onto. Wheres the tragedy?
>>288365848How is it love when she rejects him and he has to pester her for months for her to feel emotionally exhausted and say yes, that's sexual harrasment. He worships her but doesn't realize she's not into him? And the thread sits here and says the woman is evil, and not how the guy is absolutely retarded. There is no betrayal, she was never committed to him, how is it her fault? How is that a tragedy? His stupidity is the only thing that caused this.
>>288365860>He is Momiji's father, isn't he?Not old enough, he is 34 and his daughter was born after he married at 26
>>288365871That's what I'm saying, this is not a life ending situation, and he says she killed him twice, as if he didn't bring all of this on himself.
>>288365946you're trying too hard
There's still the domestic abuse thing that he hasn't explained yet.
>>288366019Then don't call me autistic next time if you can't even argue your point.
>>288366050Your caretaker can help you learn about human emotions during your next nuggie break, autismo.
>>288366035Well, you see, anon...this chapter detailed the first "death." You'll have to wait seven more days for what leads to the second "death." Stay tuned!
>inb4 the actual biological Dad of the daughter beat up Taiki.
>>288366072>Oh he just loves her so very much. He worships her. He obsessively comes after her for months with his friends. >And he's the victim because she's not faithful!!!!!!!! It's her fault!!! How did she not return his feelings he forced down her throat!!!!Yes fuck you too.
>>288366050He was not the one who originally called you autistic, that was me. I have no replied to you as your subsequent post read off as intentionally disingenuous and or devoid of understanding of human emotions, regardless of whether or not you sympathize.
>>288365946I get your point, he's a faggot but>that's sexual harrasmentCalm your tits.
>>288366140I support his wife. That's my stance. There.
>>288366158If a man did that to a woman, that's sexual harrasment. Use your brain, friend.
>>288366167>Guys asked a girl out multplie times during a 6 month period>He deserves to be cheated on, his wife having a daughter from said affairs and being beating so hard that half his face looks like shit
>>288366167>I support his wifeSupport whoever you want, Autist-chan. I'm not here to moralize.
>>288366132Sorry, marrying a person actually requires taking up some responsibilities and faithfullness is one of them.If they were just dating she could pull a "no u" argument.
>>288366088>∆288366088Shira I know you have a strip dancer name and music career to go with your sonic utube account but did we fall through another Angelus erae? Also your opinions on tofu b4 /I/ get brkfat this mronig? Also nice rvb diatribes at toeis email.[>>>]responding w flapjacksNext post under 200 of 66 thousand.There was a psych ward specifically for those who attempted to outthink the Patrician.I'm going 2 date Sagume and "Brian" the crossdresser since Astolfeux isn't gonna fuck me. But sometimes I wonder.
>>288366242*beated
>>288366211No, is at most gangstalking. Is something serious but why you people need to do everything sexual and muh women rights?
>>288366242The violence I do not approve of, but his wife didn't kill him, not once not twice. Seriously, see it from her perspective. He comes after her setting up his fantasy of what he wants his life to be. She's forced to be with him because the dude literally didn't give up for 6 months and God knows for how long he was going to keep asking her. He deserves it because he did this to himself, he brought a relationship with a partner who was reluctant to accept, he forced his love and worship just to live his desires. How do you know she wanted any of this? She cheated, that obviously means she wasn't able to keep feeding into his barrage of worship. What is she supposed to do in this situation? The guy literally refused to take no for an answer.
>>288366324He's asking her for a relationship, it is sexual.
>pester for monthshe did not say that.he didnt even imply that he was relentless in his pursuit. he just said he kept trying and succeeded half a year later.he could have asked her out twice in that timeframe and it would check out
>>288366499His friend got involved, he definitely made her feel pressured.
>>288366499Yeah it could have been twice, but it almost certainly wasn’t
>>288365825>how this is supposedly something that killed Taiki twice?Finding out he was infertile it was his 1st death.Finding out his wife just conned him and had a kid with another MAN (with caps, because an infertile dude can't call himself a man) was Taikuck's 2nd death.
>>288366362There's so much wrong with this post I don't know where to start.
>>288366091Just to add more garlic to the wound. Infertile, cucked and humilliated by the instrument of his disgrace.
>>288366467>it is sexualWhat did Taiki see in that gaunt stacy?? She was flat as a surfboard.
>>288366531Your assumptions are not definites.>>288366543As long as you know that he didn't actually say or allude to his behavior being overly aggressive.You guys remind me of abyssfags who always jumped the gun and made things out to be worse than they really were. Assumptions are fine, but stop pretending you know what happened.
>>288366565Fair, now let me hear why his wife is responsible, for him being infertile, and for forcing her into a relationship she didn't want. Let's hear it, I want to know, how did she kill him two fucking times when he brought her into his life by being as asshole. And again, I don't think she cheated to hurt him, he's just forcing his feelings onto her, that's exhausting, you can't blame her for wanting someone else when this dude is unreasonable.
If a woman came after a man for 6 fucking months you retards would call her romantic.
>>288366680yuko simps never leftyou can clearly tell these were the same people blaming Esemori for Yuko being a nutjob
>>288366680My older sister did this when I moved away and it was romantic.
>>288366680I would call her desperate
I stand with Taiki's ex-wife and /ourqueen/.
>>288363246Thanks
You guys are making a big deal over 6 months. Some people can be infatuated for years. This doesn't mean you're getting on your knees every week either. You can make plans separated over months or even incidents and shoot your shot. Typically works out better that wat
>>288366680I've seen that shit a lot of times for both sexes and it isn't that big of a deal
>>288366362Assuming you are the autist from earlierThis point: >comes after her setting up his fantasy of what he wants his life to be. - is where I can agree with you. The theme of this manga is "the curse called an ideal", and we have Mikoma idealizing a fictitious Momiji throughout the story. His parallel Ebihara was also guilty of this on some level: falling in love with someone who for all intents and purposes, did not exist. Forcing that illusion onto someone can only lead to destruction. Granted, this does not abdicate her of responsibility. I do not give her a pass because she has agency. She was not coerced into marrying this man. Or cucking him while playing the sweet l, harmless quiet girl. She could have gone full mask off and crushed any dreams he had of being with her at the very start. She chose to play along. At which point, all her future actions can be attributed to malice, most likely while playing the victim. Ebihara did not deserve his fate, based solely on the details we have been provided. If we receive more information of her actually being pressured or trying to leave but Ebihara being insistent, I will slightly revise my stance (along with external pressure from family and peers) I can empathize more. But attempted murder has no excuse.
>>288366805some people might say that's a minimum level of dedication to someone you really like. depending on how you go about it of course.
>>288366649You are assuming a whole lot there. Being persistent doesn't mean you forced anyone. She chose to commit and then cheated.
>>288363246YABBA DABBA DOOO
This is twice now that Ryo has reused the no sperm plot line. Hmmmmmmm. Makes me think she has something she wants to say.
The mountain would never betray you. Embrace the mountain.
Thanks for the dump
>>288366975>be the wife>Hey will you be my gf>No>Hey will you by my gf>No>ad nauseam for 6 months >Finally say yes whatever>Speed run marriage at 26>Fucking sick of him being unreasonable and spineless at the same time>Emotionally neglected because he's too absorbed by his fantasy >Cheat because you're also just a person and need someone to actually be with>He finds out And now it's all her fault, and she killed him twice. Oh poor Taiki. Got beat up and disfigured, what for and how? We don't know. Probably something more stupid.
>/a/ defending a cheater and a whoreJesus fucking christ, I expected better.
Isn't Roka more like Taiki's ex-wife because he's in a relationship with Momiji just because it would be easier than to turn her down.
>>288367184>And now it's all her faultYes, foid. She assumed all accountability when she refused to tell him to fuck off in the most final, heart crushing way imaginable and instead opted in being in a relationship. If females actually meant "no" when they actually "yes, but chase me harder daddy XD" - this would not be a problem. Taiki is guilty of being a stubborn simp. His ex is guilty of paternity fraud, domestic abuse, and attempted murder. There is no comparison.
>>288367184That some mental gymnastics for dedicating years of living backstabing someone.
>>288367299That's the problem isn't it, he wouldn't accept no as an answer even though she explained to him that they're not compatible.>all accountability Let's not kid ourselves, marriage at 26 with a woman he had to emotionally exhausted for months is not her fault when it blows up in his face. That's the perfect way to describe it, he put together a bomb and then acts surprised when it blows up and hurts him, and then it's all the bomb's fault. Fuck you. Fuck you retard.
>>288363173bitches and whores
>>288367432You don't know that. You don't know that she was unfaithful for years or only around the time the daughter was born.
>>288367436>Taiki put a gun to the bitch's head and forced her to marry and shit out kids! She din'du nuffin! Kek, fuck off and change out your tampon, bitch.
>>288367488Well yeah. Nobody know, but you still comment very convinced of your theories while say that to others.My bet is things are not that simple.
>>288367299>and attempted murder.Whoa, wait a sec. What if the attempted murder was caused by Taiki's wife's BVLL?? As of her being the mastermind and the bvll being the executioner? Simply to add more fuel to the fire?
>>288367724My final input to this conversation is that the ex-wife is not evil for cheating, and she didn't kill him twice.
>>288367759Not entirely impossible, but the story frames the domestic abuse to be direct: using the legend of the ghost of the mountain as a blueprint. "It happens to men too", as Mayu commented. The kill being outsourced to a rando makes it hit less, while being another repeat of Yuko. Though in defense of the argument, Ryou is recycling quite a few ideas here. I personally do not care for that direction, all things said.
Oh, great, this is /r9k/ vs /c/rystalcafe all over again.Flashback to Abyss 2nd flashback namek days.
>>288366680That's a given. Look at any male romcom thread
>>288367777Sounds reasonable. I imagine maybe there's some gang blackmailing plot behind if that's how it goes.I still expect something more hideous from Ryo.
For all we know right now, the wife made a discreet visit to a sperm bank and did not touch another man in their years of marriage. It would make for a nice parallel if he handed in a semen sample and she picked one up, both behind each other's backs.
>>288368228Again, this is a Ryou manga, so cheating and verbal/physical humilliation are a must.
What are the odds that Miko learns the wrong lesson here and instead of leaving Momiji alone he doubles down on hating her
>>288369261that would be boringwith the manga's short length, i would prefer if miko wisened up and started becoming more aware of how people feel about him and start crafting the relationships he should be...only for Momiji to want none of it and to keep him down where she wants him.
man, who hurt ryo?i'd never hurt you, ryoit's not too late to settle down with someone and start a family, i'm not like the other men who were in your life
>>288368228He was in denial about the paternity test which spelled it out.
What would you have done /a/? I personally would have tied her up and raped the baby in front of her while saying a baby is fine too
>>288362719Fucking wsj cunts ruining everything.
>>288363024Oh i see, abyss became too long that the drama stopped being serious
>>288363072>older womenuhh ryo, are you telling us something?
>>288369462I agree, but I don't think he is going to get rid of his crush that easily
>>288363246thanks, anon
>>288363246AIEEEEEE
>>288370022
>>288370022>>288370393Why does Ryo make so many evil pretty women
>>288369462>only for Momiji to want none of it and to keep him down where she wants him.>>288369924>I agree, but I don't think he is going to get rid of his crush that easilyThis aligns with the foundation Ryou has set up with the mountain legend. Mikoma is the "woman who lived up on the mountain." Momiji is the "important person from the village" (Queen) who "forces [the mountain resident] to marry [them]." Which in this context, constitutes a sexual or romantic relationship. If the legend unfolds as told, Mikoma "will want nothing to do with [her]." Instead, he would "run back to the mountain." Which would embitter Momiji to the point she could, theoretically, "kill [him] and bury [his] body on the mountain [he] loves so much." So if this is being played straight, and the run of this manga is as short as we are expecting, he needs to undergo the process of getting over throughout Act 2 while resisting any temptations or perhaps temporarily succumbing. But by Act 3, he will "lol nope" - disengaging, which will lead to dangerous consequences if Ebihara's wisdom is not integrated. Ryou is foreshadowing Momiji's dark nature heavily, I'm just wondering why the hell she would go that far for Miko, and not, Roka, her actually boyfriend who wants fuck all to do with her.
Mengo and Ryo should team up
>>288370705That would be a match made in hell. I have all Boy's Abyss volumes and Scum's Wish volumes right next to each other on my shelf.
>/a/ defending literal cuckolding behaviour because SHE A SMOL BEAN GIRL SHE INNOCENT
>>288371041Its just one anon
Why does everyone think that Act 2 will be as short as Act 1
>>288371699Ryo said this is max 3 Volumes iirc
>>288366362Anon you're trying so hard to justify her behavior that your way of thinking resembles something you're not, get it through your head YOU WILL NEVER BE A WOMAN. So stop using the same retarded line of thinking like one.
Why is it that all of Ryo’s works prove that Islam is right about women?
>>288371705Where/when did she say that?
>>288372238She only said that chapter 7 was the last one from act 1. Act 2 could be 100 chapters long for all we know
>>288372146Kek.Abyss was all about "simping and idealizing wrong, know and love your partner for who she is".
If I had a nickel every time a woman caused a problem…
>>288372295Exactly, I am not going to be TOO optimistic, but Act 1 is clearly introductory. My hunch is that Act 2 may be around 15 - 20 chapters. Ryou needs time to fllesh out Mikoma and Momiji's relationship to herald and introduce the toxicity we're all looking forward to, which also involves Roka to some degree. Can't speed run the most sensitive part of the story in 7 chapters while making it believable. Not holding much hope for the manga itself being more than 35 - 40 chapters, though.
What does Ryou's works have that make incels seethe this much?
>>288369911i can fix her
>>288363173I just told my friend to get his sperm count checked a few days ago. Manga is getting too realistic, bros...
>>288373900i'm gonna fix her first
>>288374069>Manga is getting too realistic, brosRyou, Reiji, Fujimbo, Airi Katsura, Nikumaru, Jyura and Takeda Super are the new gen of blackpiller mangaka. They are the only ones who know bow modern women and relationships work in this 2026, in this economy.
>>288373449Normgroids seethe at Ryou works, """incels""" are already on the same page as her.
Momiji will fix Miko.
This guy is going to feed Miko's already existing resentment for Momiji with his "hate what you hate" advice and scary stories of future knife in the back. Always be wary of characters in stories that nudge towards hate.
>>288374794Seethe more, woman. Ryou is exposing your behaviours to boys who need to know how to protect themselves from your bitter and evil existence.
>>288374794I don't know how you can completely misread that scene and come out with this interpretation.
>>288374794>sees a man talk about an evil deceitful woman who did terrible things to him>immediately empathizes with her and takes her sidewhat did anon mean by this
Believe all women, chud
>>288374868Shounen no Abyss says the opposite tho.Reiji, Chunko, Yuri and even Nagi seethed at Esemori for being a simpcel who used Yuuko as a sauce of inspiration for his books, was in love with the image he made about her and disowned the real her. One point of the story that ran through the whole story was always about learning to love the real women in front of you and not the idealized version.
>>288370022>>288370393>>288370434my mom looks kind of like her but she is sweet.
>>288375201>the most emotion nagi shows in 300 chapters is getting pissed at esemori for leading her by the nose
>>288375896To be fair, her baseline is pretty low ever since Mao broke her. Real life people also aren't always emotionally teetering for the entertainment of readers.
>>288375201When did this happened? I need to read abyss again
>>288376464When Esemori reneged pleaded that she not kill herself and try to work something out with Reiji.
>>288363246I love evil women.> B-butI don't want to be fixed anon, just pray for me when I inevitable fall down the slippery slop.
>>288376464>I need to read abyss againWords only a fool would say
>>288376768Meh, I read abyss as if I was watching a mexican novela, it was really funny that way
>>288363246Does the fact that this looks like Momiji mean Miko is imagining her as Momiji?
>>288376907No. Its Ryou telling her more retarded readers who haven't caught on since chapter 3 that Momiji = Taiki's ex wife in terms of what she means to Miko in so far as the themes of the story. The resemblance is intentional. That is not what Miko is imaging, that is what Taiki's ex actually looks like.
>>288374794I don't think Ebihara is telling him his story with that intention, but Miko might be an idiot who doesn't get the lesson
>>288363246Thanks for the dump.
>>288362952>shit is staining my frying pan
>>288376616More precisely, he told her it was an unfair request, but asked her to live. She got pissed that he was dumping her for his old oneitis and gave up on dying w/ her. He even told her to use his modest savings to survive for a couple of months 'till she finds a new job and suggested her to see Reiji, tell each other's sob story and leave the fishtank she was into.
>>288375896Ironically the same applies for Reiji, although he had a little more of moments, but where he felt more anger was when he disowned Gen as a friend in Tokyo, ordered him to not murder-suicide him, threatened Yuri to call the cops twice (one for using lies to destroy Chunko's future, other for brainwashing "Nagi" and kidnapping her), although his most psychotic ones were when he lashed out at his mom at the hospital and when he tried to kill Mao for the things he did to "Nagi".
I knew this manga was reminding me of something https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t82KG656Uc8
>>288363246Isn't she right though?
>>288363173>>288363210>>288363246I was having a good day and then I read this and now I feel crappy.
>>288374794>go through a spiritually tumultuous time >meet a man outside with many things in common to you, who says all the right things >he nudges you farther and farther down the dark path Taiki is a name that will serve Miko's turn
>>288382843>>he nudges you farther and farther down the dark pathAll he told Miko was that he needs to start forcing himself to like something he actually does not. He's not telling him to bask in anger, but to let it go and cut it out of his life. Do you like gay porn, anon? I fucking hate it - so I stay away from it. Do you like IRL evil women? I despise them, and it's fine to "hate what I hate" and keep the cancer out of my life. Forcing myself to like those things is self destructive. That is the only thing Taiki is saying. Reading comprehension, anon.
>>288383173>to startTo STOP
>>288383173>he needs to start forcing himself to like something he actually does notIn jp, Taiki said that it was fine to hate what he hates.I'm starting to see not only abyss is being victim of official EN mistranslations, but also sangeki.
>>288383173I was responding to a post suggesting he was doing something sinister, and led it to reference another piece of literature Reading comprehension, Anonymous
>>288362925This should've been a 2 page spread for better effect.
>>288383494>In jp, Taiki said that it was fine to hate what he hates.I read the raws. The meaning does not change. He is not advocating using hatred as a tool of empowerment. That was the whole point of my post.
Miko doesn't particularly like wild boar meat but he forced himself to eat it because the mountain symbolizes his pride as a man, and eating what came from it is a sign of respect for that concept. It was passed down to him from his grandfather the same way Taiki would have passed down baseball to his non-existent son.Ryou has plenty of history writing plot points about challenging societal gender norms so this story is probably no different on that front. Why couldn't Taiki have taught baseball to his daughter? It was simply his social ideal to have had a son to inherit his manly sport and it probably didn't occur to him that his daughter might have bonded just the same given some effort and that Taiki himself said it didn't necessarily need to be baseball. This fixation on having a son ironically led to his emasculation in finding out that he was infertile, his daughter wasn't actually his, and the implication that his wife was sleeping with another man.Miko thinks of Momiji when Taiki says it's fine to hate what he hates. While he fantasizes about a relationship with her where he's a knowledgeable giver, he resents how in reality she's inconsiderate when it comes to him and the mountain. He keeps holding out hope that she would come around to appreciate them given the chance though, so he wanted to create a situation where she would need to depend on him by luring her into the mountain, the bait being gossip of Taiki's "dark secret." Momiji seems to have plans of her own though, playing along all of a sudden after previously rejecting him, and supposedly keeping it secret from Roka.
>>288385905Miko's already aware of Momiji's queen behavior from Roka and Makita has told him that he creeps her out but he doesn't quite understand why that would be the case yet.Hearing the story about Taiki's ex-wife might make him even more antsy around Momiji as because he relates with the feelings of emasculation from both his family selling off the mountain and the person he likes passively dissing his passion.I could see him being nudged closer to breaking point from Taiki's words even if it was unintentional.
>>288363173hopefully miko isn't infertile toohe's just a coward
>>288385905>>288386262Insightful post. Did not consider the possible layer of emasculation + need for the successor of your knowledge and passiona to be male.
How are you all expecting this to end? Considering it's a short story will Miko and Momiji just repeat the cycle? Will they break it? I'm not expecting them to start liking each other or honestly and if they ever do anything intimate it will basically turn into hatesex unless we got some plot twist that Momiji secretly liked Miko all along
>>288386976Unless Momiji starts throwing extremely hot cast irons around onto Miko’s face for no reason out of nowhere I just don’t see anything happening with them unless she specifically chooses it. She has a boyfriend after all and Miko already gave her up. They can go on their mountain hike to see leaf man and…what? Hang out? I don’t really believe Miko is the type to make a move on her himself especially after hearing leaf man’s ntr story.
>>288386976Just depends on if Ryou wants to give Miko a good end or bad, I can easily see him snapping out of his Momiji delusions thanks to Taiki and Roka, but he does seem to be stubborn and pigheaded enough to ignore their warnings and fall in love with his ideal of her. Just like all her other works and just like how Taiki fell for his domino
>>288386976>some plot twist that Momiji secretly liked Miko all alongHer dislike of Mikoma's attachment with the mountain comes off as personal at times, so it wouldn't feel like much of a twist to me. I've been theorizing young Miko picked the mountain over her back in the day, and she's been quietly seething ever since.
>>288387258This, she wants Miko to get over his mountaintism
>>288388019I don't think she cares all that much what Miko likes, only that she wants his admiration for her unconditionally and without strings attached. She seems extremely selfish and uncaring about anything that isn't her.
What if Momiji tries to destroy the mountain to make Miko look at her again but the mountain turns out to be mother gaia and she kills Momiji before riding off into the sunset with Miko?
What is Ryo's fixation about men with azoospermia and the wife cucking him? Makes me wonder if there's some family secret and she's putting it in her works to make them seethe.
>>288386976Bad end: Miko dies on the mountain, despite being involved Momiji gets away scott free while someone else (probably Roka) takes the fall.Good end: this one's harder to figure out. Perhaps Miko still gets attacked but survives, and he and his family move out of town. In this case I see the murder attempt being covered up. Momiji still doesn't go to jail but suffers a serious ego injury.
>>288388742Men raising children who aren't there is so fucking common and one of the most base fears a man could have in a marriage. It's so bad, France outlaws paternity tests.
>>288363246So is she repeating the thing she said at the party or is this for him doing a DNA test?
>>288388837I think it's meant to be like she's saying the same thing she said before but obviously, the context is different.
>>288388837She is repeating the thing she said at the party where he feels bad after saying something to her but she's implying "it's your own fault, you forced this on me".At the party he insulted her while she was there against her will and now he did it again in their marriage implying that his relentless dogging of her is the same as the pressure she felt to attend the mixer.
Gotta wonder if Taiki is telling the entire truth too.
>>288388977I think he might be omitting his own behaviour in the marriage (for now), but I'm not gonna go down the hole of "every character is a liar for the convenience of later twists" because that's just lazy writing and Ryou has proven herself to be above that level of hackjob.
>>288388837She is mocking him
>>288388977He's certainly an unreliable narrator. He claims not to have strong feelings for his ex yet also to have worshiped her. He claims to have worshiped his wife but he has almost nothing to say about her as a person, only that she was pleasant and convenient for him. It's clear he viewed his lovers through the lens of how useful they were to him. He liked that having an older ex bestowed status on him but didn't like when she acted higher status, and he liked his wife because he could 'worship' her without her making any demands of him. Even though he's probably not lying deliberately, his shallow understanding of other people makes his story incomplete.
>>288388977Him talking about the 'older woman' not respecting him and the fixation on his child needing to be a boy, as the other anon pointed out, make me think he wasn't purely good Not to say neither of those feelings are valid, but in a piece of writing, they're intentional choices to include
>>288389382>older exolder *gf
>>288387241>Just like all her other worksEven though Zombie and Abyss went the opposite way, with the respective MCs having to learn to fall for the real person instead of the respective ideal.Sangeki, however, may end going straightforwardly into a Akira+Yuuko type of tragedy
>>288389635The twist is that somehow Miko and Momiji make their relationship work
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>>288390989Now one with slutzuru too.
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>>288391213Ruka a shit.
>>288390870Personally, I'm not so sure. That *is* the standard blueprint for Ryou's works as >>288373189 confirmed. But I feel the endgame is what Makita's proposed "freedom." Free from the "curse" of the mountain that "doesn't want him" and free from the "curse of [his] childhood friendship with Momiji." Though in the case of the latter, it's Mikoma who needs to "free" Momiji from the curse, according to Makita. If I were writing the story, I would not include Makita's lines here if I wanted Mikoma and Momiji together by the end. Though alternatively, it could work if I reinterpret "Release Princess Momiji from the curse of your childhood friendship" as "stop holding Momiji to childhood ideals", it could fit into the meta Ryou's known for. That said, if Momiji abuses and fucks him up as the story's building up to, I'm struggling to come up with a "reconciliation" that makes sense outside of serving as a tragic warning sign for the readers.
>>288389635I'm also getting tragedy from this. It'd be easier to have a tragic ending with a short series like this, at least, than it would have been with Boy's Abyss. Imagine if after all those chapters Reiji had actually an hero'd, and the story just ended like that.
>>288391213>>288390989Good template, but so limited in knowledge unlike CSM ending
>>288374069Reality is a psyops of your own creation
