Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #27 (2006) 00. Someone Hertz (Cover & Lead Color Page) 01. Ichi the Witch 02. One Piece 03. Akane-banashi 00. Shinobi Undercover (Color Page) 04. Witch Watch 05. Sakamoto Days 00. Tamura-ka Hyaku Monogatari (One Shot by Amakaya Yumihiko, Color Page) 06. Roku's House of Oddities 07. Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi 00. Drawn to the Fire (Not Ranked) 08. Blue Box 00. Class 2-B: Hero Destroyerz (Not Ranked) 09. Hima-Ten! 10. Me & Roboco 11. Kagurabachi 12. Nue's Exorcist 13. Under Doctor 14. Kinato's Magic 15. Alien Headbutt (Final) New batch: >Animal Signal by Tsutsui Taishi & Haruhara Robinson >Hal Formula by Kento Terasaka >Canon Master by Reiya Machida
>>288382125
>>288382125Thanks for picking up KGB, Cygames. Now we can compete with Black Clover, as the Lord intended.
>>288382125Kino batch
>>288382125The hal formula guy is hot
>>288382175>AIIIIEEEE THOSE AI SUB STUDIOS ARE ONLY FOR GAMES>AI ANIMATION LAB ENTERS
>>288382125More Kiyoshi cushions
What's ending then?
>>288382125they will be missed
>>288382125>Animal Signal by Tsutsui Taishi & Haruhara RobinsonI’m sure it’s obvious, but Tsutsui is the artist, right?
>pending>kiyoshi
>>288382950Shouldn't Nue be earlier?
>>288382963The fact that they havent axe this shit manga means it got one greenlit very early. Nue had to wait till animejapan. The earliest winners had to wait 2 years max.
>>288383006>choujun
>>288383067Chojun didnt win anime japan.
>>288382950I dont believe it is Kiyoshi. If it is tho I've never seen a more undeserving series.
>>288382125>formulaMotorsport???? Is it time??
>>288383126It's more of virtual/scifi racing if 2ch speculation is correct.
>>288382950Yeah sure buddy when Trigger is also heavy on releasing original series.
>>288382950This has nothing to do with jump.
>>288382125>alien butthole>himidtenwhich will be the third axe? Kinato? Blue Box? Akane?
>>288383819Blue box is ending, yes. Akanebanashilled will be wasting paper for 3-4 years more and will surpass Roboco as WSJ 2nd oldest manga.
Kinato next?
>>288383967kinato's axe is inevitable
>>288382950Since when TRIGGER worked with Shueisha Are they collabing in something?
Holyshit, is my Red Sonja joke happening? Will kawaguchi draw a manga about red head amazon warriors for his next work?
>>288384171elf ears
>>288384171Isn't this just magic the gathering
>>288384171Nice firm boobs on the left
>>288384171I don't get it. If he loves to draw hot muscular girls, why not pick a setting surrounding that?I never understood the shota addition to all his work
>>288384534>I never understood the shota addition to all his workHis self insert
>>288384171Sexo
>>288382125>Alien Headbutt (Final)Wait, what? Final? What the fuck?
Was this good? It looks good.
>>288382175This makes sofia seethe for some reason.
>>288384887It is good.
Aah the oga2 and gyaru one I was waiting for
>>288384833>U17Ouga's just built different ;_;
"Thank you to everyone who read this all the way through. And I’m sorry."
>>288385199Probably better off starting somewhere else instead of immediately getting your hopes and dreams crushed as a rookie in jump
>>288385199Sorry for what?
>>288385282Saito was particularly cruel with AHMust have received orders to crush any battle shounen
Kiyoshi is awesome.
>>288385590Saito...
>>288385526ending his life because of his failure
>>288382125>15. Alien Headbutt (Final)Is this the first u19 we had in a while?
>>288385590
>>288382893yes
>>288385699Digital sales
>>288385727>8 volumes>still no circulation numberI wouldn't count on those lmao
>>288385803Kids read exclusively on digital. None of them have bought physical volumes in a long time.
>>288385727Saito...
>>288385727LMAO
>>288385826Digital sales are counted in circulation figures. That's how Nue got a 1.6mil circulation in 14 volumes despite new volumes selling short of 30k fm physical.Kiyoshi doesn't sell digital either.
>>288385931That's impossible. If Kiyoshi wasn't selling, it would have been axed a long time ago.
>>288385951lmao
Pray for Stagnatebachi.
>>288386068I hope this trash dies as soon as possible.
>>288386068Damn you're so shit at editing, at least make the two sides the same size and line up that number in the middle.
>kgb pivotKiyoshi is a flop propped up by Oda nepotism confirmed
>>288385282It's always better to start somewhere else just look at the Gonron author he waited more than a decade to get serialized and with chapter one you could tell it wasn't going to make it
she's so mad
I'm so happy.
>>288386068it's over
>>288385699This is what Saito shills and protects.
How does one save WSJ?
>>288386991Poach talent from other magazines
>>288386991purge the editors for starters
>>288386991Fire Saito.>>288387044They have editors?
>Dear Anemone Headbutt lost Axeposters won.
>>288387675Based kgbro, we don't need to use Centuria to shit on that one anymore
>>288385574>Source? My leaking anus
Kinato bros...We won so hard
>>288382125Where is the U19 edit for AH?
Inui praising arakawa destroyed him
We will miss Alien Head.
>Let's reincarnate and not tell Chihiro
>>288388668
>ichi leaksDamn it's shit
and queer
>>288388873post em
KINATO LEAKSNOW
>>288382125Alien Dickbutt lost.
Finally, no wrestler in the way.
>>288382180Black clover volume 11 (pre anime) was already a 160k seller. That's 2 kiyoshis more than kgb
>>2883893123M by vol 12 while KGB reached that by vol 9. Your logic works only if you ignore digital completely. And it makes no sense to compare physical sales of year 2017 to 2026: these decreased sharply over the whole industry.
Axe Saito
>>288389492>the digital cope
>>288389612As long as manga doesn't have any towers, which isn't the case for frequently sold out KGB, circulation is the most proper way to compare manga almost a decade apart.>>288389312Oh, and that's only 1 kiyoshi less, or even less than one, depending on monthly oricon for vol11.
>>288389612Black Clover was nowhere close to top3 of WSJ salesKagurabachi is 2nd best selling ongoing WSJ manga now
>WSJ lost to Choppers Volume
>>288389846B-but it's not from WSJ!
Terasaka has figured out the game
>>288390106KINATO PILLAR TRUST
>>288390106brutal that alien eadbutt got axed before its first volume
>>288390154It's not brutal, it's unfair. Fuck Saito.
>>288382125Why didn't japs like Alien Heabutt?
FUCK MY DAUGHTER BROOK
>>288390186if AH mangaka and the editor werent retarded the 16 chapters that was AH would have been the first 3
>>288390470Too manly
>Average ToC rank (percent) of last 8 weeks1. Ichi the Witch 1.39%2. One Piece 5.77%3. Someone Hertz 9.21%4. Sakamoto Days 19.03%5. Witch Watch 27.56%6. Roku's House of Oddities 30.77%7. Shinobi Undercover 41.63%8. Kagurabachi 41.77%9. Akane-banashi 42.99%10. Blue Box 45.63%11. Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi 46.39%12. Me & Roboco 52.96%13. Under Doctor 69.46%14. Nue's Exorcist 71.95%15. Hima-Ten! 72.99%16. Kinato's Magic 86.96%
Make the Exorcist Fall in Love and Centuria are trash.
>>288390965BASED Top 9
>>288386068what went so wrong? even nips are tired of it
>>288390965If you're wondering why UD is getting color pages this is the reason. Its getting carried by its good start in the ToC before becoming permanent bottom 3.
Any guesses on how Drawn to the Fire will place next week?
Make the Exorcist Fall in Love and Centuria are great.
>>288391111Only half of this post is true.
>>288391176Make the Exorcist Fall in?
We need a long reset. WSJ threads should be banned for at least a month so the air can clear.
>>288391660shut up sophia
>>288388910https://cubari.moe/read/imgchest/bp45r865v75/1/2/evil woman has brainwashed the entire cast, meaning those two cop boys have to save the day, rendering our main cast jobbers. i guess the old woman witch might help save the day too.
>>288391983sex
SD and BB ending when?
Thoughts on Ginka & Gluna?
>>288392284needed more fanservice to live
>>288392216is BB even confirmed to be in its final arc?
>>288391983Wow she got Black Gojo too? Worst "strongest" character in nu shonen
>>288392401yes
>>288391983The shark will be jumped, and I don't mean the shark majik
I need to know what happens to Kinato
>>288392647it gets axed
>>288392657I meant the leaks, post the leaks
>>288392679>posing leaks for an axebait>caring about axebaitlol
>>288392679here ya go
Make the trash fall in love with Centuria is exorcist
axe roboco
>>288392802
HIGARASHI AND BOXSTER ARE THE BEST, THEY TOTALLY DESERVE TO BE THE NEW MAIN CHARACTERS OF ICHI THE WITCH
>>288393002Just like Gheer, Gheeriv is going to flop without him
>>288386135Source: my chopped off dick.
>>288382125>14. Kinato's MagicWhy did it fail?
>>288393086It was approaching too fast to Kiyoshi
>>288386068Kgb fags blame Oda for this stagnation, btw.
>>288393086MC is a generic isekai mc
>>288393098Editor told him to spice the story to get new readers and he added rape
Kunishige owes Chiaki sex.
our
>>288391983evil women...
>>288393614RAPE PREVENTERS
>>288393646They really did that, so peak.
>>288386068I like KGB but people need to accept that it's going to be a post covid Kaiju 8 tier hit at the very best
>>288393646She rapes, but she saves. And she saves more than she rapes. But she probably does rape.
>>288393987I'd let her brutally rape me, if you get what I'm saying.
>>288386068Seitei War arc will unironically boost it to 200k, Nips are loving this shit.
>>288393677Covid was an anomally. The fact that people think KnY or JJK would ever hit those numbers or even close to it without covid is hilarious to me. If Shueisha can get like 2 consistent 500k per volume sellers these days, it would be like KnY and JJK during covid
Only the greats include rape in their jump mangaAttempted rape doesn't count
Hakuri is SHIT
>>288384989Lying nigger bitch. It was just okay
>>288385640I wish
>>288390972True
Champion Jump Magazine Sunday
Movie reignited interest for sakamoto this month I guess
>>288393677Over the past decade, there have been a ton of series that I've found bad, disappointing, or both. However, no manga was less deserving of its popularity than Kaiju No. 8. Nothing about its story or characters was interesting, and its conclusion read like a protracted U19. In short, it fucking sucked, and I hope S3 bombs.
The moral of Kagurabachi is that you must make sure to never leave any survivors and always finish the job. Ukizane failed to successfully exterminate all of the Mikaboshi resulting in the Seitei War and present day plot.
>>288394975Another fujita hit
>>288385951>That's impossible. If Kiyoshi wasn't selling, it would have been axed a long time ago.people already forgot highschool family i see
Is anyone translating the current Next Gen One shots at all?
I deserve goat sex
>>288382125>22i againWhere's Komi? When will he return?
>Alien Headbutt already overI will never forgive the Japanese
>>288382125>15. Alien Headbutt (Final) based based based based basedfinally we will never se alienniggers ever again
>Under Doctor gets another CP for its "overwhelming popularity"Amazon Pre orderDigital / PhysicalKinato 1 #12,617 / #19,834Under Doctor 1 #24,651 / #34,046AHAHHAHAH
>>288396674UD doing kiyoshi numbers
So what else is ending?
>>288396841everything except roboco
>>288396902Based.
>>288396841Her virginity
>>288396674Ain't no way these two are surviving next round
>>288394404>The fact that people think KnY or JJK would ever hit those numbers or even close to it without covid is hilarious to mekny was selling near 2m before covid lockdowns were a thing u retardand jjk was selling 200k before that as well
>>288385727>>288385826>>288385951>Kiyoshi sells on digitalKEK
>blah blah blah sales blah blah blah digital blah blah blahCompelling argument, but have you considered this A V R A?
>>288397430Even early Gacuckro had more aura than this homosexual junkie that only Oda likes.
Alien Headbutt was complete garbage and the only reason why anyone pretended it was good because the fags on here are so desperate to relive those delinquent vibes that they deluded themselves it believing it wasn't shit. It was on such a level of People Fight slop to the point it makes Sakamoto look like it had actual depth. You deserve to be miserable if you had any faith in that trash.
>>288397649now you remember when some people here thought ping pong was the real deal
>>288394975Can I post this on Xwitter?If you don't respond, I'll take that as a yes
>>288397649Little Mei is a better character than anyone in Sakamoto Days.
We needed an entire chapter about her bowel movements
>>288397649The plot is mediocre, the ideas are mediocre, and while the art and action are okay, but SD does a better job with those elements.Anyone who thinks this can be a success is an idiot.
>>288397649Imagine what we could’ve got if we had an alien wrestling spokon instead of Dear Anemone 2. The wrestling never factored into the damn story
>16 chaptersGo fuck yourself Saito. And go fucking FUCK yourself whatever editor was assigned to this series holy shit, are they just completely asleep at the wheel or are they just retards.>>288397649>People fightHow could you determine it's a people fight series when it didn't even last 13 chapters before getting the axe notice? Do you know what that term means? Oh no of course you don't, you just saw other anons using it and being a 90IQ midwit are incapable of properly understanding context.
>>288397902If a manga gets u19 then the editor should get fired too. Besides I wonder how much that FMA praising hurt Oda's egoRoku did a doflamingo meme and entered top 6
>>288396674just like otr populariry
>>288382950>kagurabachi anime made by AI>kiyoshi anime made by mfking Hiroyuki Imaishiwould be the funniest shit ever
now in HD
>>288384534shotas are good for the soulonly troons disagree
>>288396674I just don't understand. Color pages surely can't be planned so far in advance that they couldn't pivot, right? Like if Kinato is consistently matching and doing better than UD in pre-orders wouldn't you want to try to boost it a little bit?They didn't cancel kinato so surely there is atleast SOME faith in it
i cant wait to go to japan and kick saito in the nuts
>>288398578Saito shills the least popular option
>>288398597He can take you
>>288384171Nigga, that's MTG; Kawaguchi said it in his Twitter post.https://x.com/KawaguchiTw/status/2059838663471878206
>>288398559Based enlightened scholar.
>Fucking Alien Headbutt got axed before Under DoctorDamn this gay earth
So if Alien got axed what's being axed or ending to make room for the next 2 series?
>Kinato does not look like it got axed>So is UD>3 new seriesOkay, then which 2 manga would end/axed?
>>288393165No he's not. He's Deku in almost every way except not having an All Might.
>>288399265And if you remove All Might from Deku you have a generic MC
>>288391983The sexist inspector leader? A Hero
>>288398618Why
>>288399263It's back being 21 manga again
>>288399263Himaten
>>288399263Himaten and theres a free spot from Modulo that they filled with one shots, these oneshots will end soon
Hokazono stealth announcing his wife is pregnant as fuuucccck
>>288399795>father at 25Damn I'm envious
>>288399812He's gonna be a father at 26, 27 and 28 too
>>288399795It felt like it, the pregnant belly with the totally not naruto tattoo like kushina.
>>288382125This shilling won't increase akanebanashit sales anyway.
>>288384910The "sweep" in question
>>288399795fatherhood hiatus soon
>>288399795Do you morons ever talk about anything that isn't headcanonWhat's this bullshit about his non-existent wife?
>>288399907>his non-existent wifeThe part where he wears a ring and nips tracked down the part where he's married.I'm sorry it offends you so much. As his university classmates put it>he's a chad
>>288385199>Name his manga Headbutt>Headbutt once >axed
>>288397902You want to know what People Fight means? I will tell you, a series that only cares about hype fights and is devoid of characters, story, and world building of substance. >Muh 16 chaptersFuck off with this shit. If a series was shit in that amount of time it will stay shit. Kiyoshi never got better after it somehow was able to survive 93 chapters, and neither did any other axebait that survived longer than it deserved. In that amount of time Luffy, two strawhats, Buggy and even Shanks from a few flashblacks already had depth. Naruto was into its Land of Waves arc, the Hunter Exams were already full of creative twist and turns, and even KGB had introduced Sojo by then. There is nothing in AH that could even come close to anything I listed, and don't tell me that "the big twist" that went viral xhitter would of had led to anything when it didn't even lead to anything that would make the series actually of worth in just these last few chapters and the series is still same shit as ever. The only thing that giving an axebait that can't even bother to give you a reason to be invested more time ever leads to are shit shows like WSM were half of the magazine is garbage that should've been axed out years ago.>Muh editorThis what you fags retarded enough to believe blatant slop always resort to when you can't admit you were tasting shit this entire time. Did a new editor stop Kawaguchi from making the exact same mistakes again after the editor totally killed "the next big thing" Red Hood? There was no potential, the mangaka created a shit series and nobody except for dumbasses like you that live in your own retarded fantasies read his slop and as a result it was rightfully axed, deal with it.
>kill blue first episode on youtube has reached 900k views and 24k likes>meanwhile akane anime barely reached 80k views and 6k likesBrutally mogged
hiyuki SOON
>>288399962>a series that only cares about hype fights and is devoid of characters, story, and world building of substanceYup, we call it kagurabachi
>>288399962>This what you fags retarded enough to believe blatant slop always resort to when you can't admit you were tasting shit this entire time. Did a new editor stop Kawaguchi from making the exact same mistakes again after the editor totally killed "the next big thing" Red Hood? There was no potential, the mangaka created a shit series and nobody except for dumbasses like you that live in your own retarded fantasies read his slop and as a result it was rightfully axed, deal with it.It's an editors job to:1. Guide mangaka so they don't write uninteresting slop.2. Guide mangaka so they don't write slop which sells like shit even if it's interesting.3. Guide mangaka so they have marketable elements in their manga (to create merch). 4. Prevent mangaka who won't listen from serialization.
Ichi the king of wsj.
so much yapping for alien headbutt lmao, it took me 5 pages to realize it's just another axebait
>>288400041Just say>it's an editor's job to write the manga for them!at that point
>>288400064You get it, the editor was supposed to be co-writer for the series.
>>288399962Good post. I noticed AHfags are never able to actually defend the manga. They always have to immediately accept the conceit that the manga has zero substance.
Chillin among the passionate haters and readers...
just like piss pong fags you lot will disappear in no time
>>288399079That entire batch is axebait but Alien being the first and only to get axed is funnier and causes seethe so it's better.
>>288400116Should have actually made it underground wrestling instead of turning it into Dear AnemoneLike, Anemome had better art than AH, and it still flop
>>288397430bodied twinkhiro easily
>>288400064No, they perform the same role as editors for actual books with a more heavy emphasis on the marketable aspect. Think consultant for the business, do you think mckinsey advisor is the same as your CEO/cofounder? Are WGSN fashion designers?
>>288400151The difference is that those books wouldn't get published in the first place>work with talentless hacks>they produce crap>actually, it's your fault they didn't make something good
>>288400166As I said, it's also an editor's job to prevent unsalvageable mangaka from serialization in their magazine.
>>288400207Sadly, jump has to run a certain number of series, they'd save money if they only added good series.
It's awfully presumptuous to assume a failed series could have been successful with only a few minor tweaks. Sometimes no matter what you try readers will simply reject a work outright. AH seems like it fell into that category, with it bottom ranking continuously almost from the start. Ultimately if it were so simple to guarantee successful serialization there would never be any axes at all, but the reality is has always been the fate of the vast majority of serialized works to end prematurely.
>>288400220Well, it's also their job to find new talent and to motivate veterans to come back, following their advice which, again, should be good.>>288400223Then it shouldn't be serialized in the first place. Predicting and forecasting the trends and public receptance is quite literally on the editors.
>>288400223>Sometimes no matter what you try readers will simply reject a work outrightYeah I feel some rookie works die just from their premise or concept alone. The fluctuation of surveys is the most accurate tool a rookie has to tell if they're going in the right direction, but many times the surveys will be a constant trend downward because readers lost interest from the very first chapter. In those situations, there aren't clear mistakes the rookie could learn from, no tweaks they can make so they could do better next time.
>>288400223It's not about being successful but letting them grow and improve. It's not fair they don't get help while shits like Kiyoshi and akane get constantly shilled
>>288400223>It's awfully presumptuous to assume a failed series could have been successful with only a few minor tweaksZiga would have been successful if the MC change to the girl in white dress with sharp teeth. I will forever be butthurt over her wasted potential, hell, she never got an actual name.
>>288400127Call down, bc/chartfag
>>288400376Neither kiyoshi nor akane get any assistance from the editors, I don't read kiyoshi but it's blatantly evident with akane writing which is all over the place.They are allowed to do as they please, their color pages and shilled toc are guaranteed no matter what they do.
>>288399962If the manga fail that much then the editor should be firedIf the manga was that bad since day one then Saito should be fired >>288400064Some editors are THAT good. It's their job to ask for future plots, to ask for marketable characters, to tell them if it's too slow/fast
>>288399795>>288399921You can tell kgb lost when they make shit up lmao
What does 2ch think of under doctor ""incredible popularity"" ?
>>288400278>Then it shouldn't be serialized in the first place. Predicting and forecasting the trends and public receptance is quite literally on the editors.This is a nonsense attitude. Most series that get put into the magazine fail, and at the end of the day nobody can say for sure whether any serialization will be a success until it is actually in the hands of magazine readers. Sometimes series that seem like they're primed for success bomb, and sometimes series that editorial didn't have as much confidence in wind up surviving. That's the nature of the business.
>>288399993Oh and to add to the useless editors debate, this is another reason why Saito should be fired too for announcing the axe after 2 manga got anime announced>>288400409Yes, whoever denied the obvious nepotism is retarded. And don't make me start on Roboco who is ugly it can't sell figures
>>288398057>I wonder how much that FMA praising hurt Oda's ego?
>>288400442But that anon is right, shits like Gonron and Jk shouldn't have been approved. Saito would have 100% axed jujutsu kaisen since that one got a lot of rewritesAnd so many axes just proves editors and saito need to be fired
>>288400462Ignore the schizo's ramblings about his failed series.
>>288400449Roboco is a little bit more fair case as it's a pure gag (literally one slot until very recently) plus a shilling mechanism for other manga. But its merch is a complete mess indeed.
>>288400491Roboco fails as a gag and it's too ugly>Shilling mechanismYeah like pretending Shinobi and Kiyoshi are the next big things while saito places kgb lower than Kiyoshi in the toc
>>288400505Hokazono delivering manuscripts late is a common occurrence.
>>288400462>>288400472You pedoda protectors are fucking disgusting
>>288400442> Most series that get put into the magazine failThen editors are doing a shit job.> and at the end of the day nobody can say for sure whether any serialization will be a successBut they should. As with the trends forecasting. Throwing shit at the wall and see what sticks is not a proper job, but that's exactly what they are doing now.
>>288400466People said the same things when Nakano was EiC. Ultimately there is no way to guarantee a successful serialization. Editorial can't force their readers to find a series interesting, and they only have so much control over what authors are giving them to work with.
>>288400462Akira praised Arakawa. We are talking about a guy who got mad at some editor having Gintama in his email name and got obviously pissed off at kny
>>288400505>Yeah like pretending Shinobi and Kiyoshi are the next big things while saito places kgb lower than Kiyoshi in the tocIt actually falls in line. Saito wants to shill Shinobi and Kiyoshi, Roboco shills it alongside with TOC and color pages provided by editorial. So Roboco is allowed to live.I had hopes Sorachi will put it out of its misery, after all, Gintama made namedropping shilling big in the first place, but I don't have such hopes anymore.
>>288400537Saito is obviously worse though
>>288400560It's the pretty model effect, Oda doesn't want too many battle shounens that could get mappa'd/ufotable'd. He probably would have killed Kagurabachi during its first arc, KGB and Nue were lucky with Nakano
>>288400537> Ultimately there is no way to guarantee a successful serialization. You barely can 100% guarantee anything, but you still have to aim to pursue that. What do you think editors do then, if not help their mangaka to make a manga which is accepted better and not kicking out mangaka which cannot follow their advice?
We love oda here
>>288400573Obsessed. Sorry the westoids you copy on xitter tricked you into thinking otr, kaedegami, and Aluen headbutt were anything besides extremely mediocre
>>288400599You're proving his point by saying only extremely mediocre shit is serialized now.
>>288400610>>288400589Source that that’s what’s happening though? You’re just making shit up no one besides the authors/editors themselves could ever know to fit your assblasted agenda. Sorry your fotm got axed, but get over it already
>>288400599It's funny since then you constantly cry about Akane being shilled, meaning you accept the toc is rigged then, so which is it?
>>288400623>>288400599Wow not so le comfy ally now, kgbfag?
>>288400623The source is WSJ itself. All the most recent batches failed, they got 2 hits in the past years since Kagurabachi which are Ichi (poached veteran who knows her business well) and Hertz (natural hit).
Ichi fumbling the bag tho
>>288400537>People said the same things when Nakano was EiCNewfags don't remember the gagbowl, they would've popped a blood vessel from Nakano filling half the magazine with gagshit after letting multiple big shonen end.
>>288400649And? What about that implies editorial sabotage? The more likely reason is that AI is giving this newbie authors interesting ideas that they can’t actually execute.>>288400626What are you talking about?>>288400623Obsessed. Maybe if you cry on xitter enough you’ll replicate Kagurabachi’s morbidity hype for whatever axebait you fall for next
>>288400669(me)Last reply meant for>>288400639
>>288400669>What about that implies editorial sabotage?The fact this shit was greenlighted in the first place.
>>288400678As opposed to the other submissions that none of us have seen but must be better somehow? If there was ONE. SINGLE. actual author who could actually corroborate your claims from the inside I’d immediately believe you but this is just butthurt seething
>>288400041>1. Guide mangaka so they don't write uninteresting slop.You can't guide a manga to not write something interesting if they aren't capable of doing so. An editor can guide an mangaka and give advice that can lead to improvements in their work, but only if the mangaka knows how to take that advice and turn into something worthwhile. >2. Guide mangaka so they don't write slop which sells like shit even if it's interesting.Alien Headbutt is already not interesting so it already fails in that regard. Anyways if an mangaka doesn't know how to use an interesting concept in any interesting way then no amount of guidance could make their own series more interesting if the author is unable to take anything interesting from the editors advice.3. Guide mangaka so they have marketable elements in their manga (to create merch). Having marketable elements means nothing if the series itself is not marketable. You can get short term attention from memes and a viral moment or a character, but once people realize that the series that that element comes from is shit, people will stop reading it.4. Prevent mangaka who won't listen from serialization.It is the editors job to pick series that could became a successful serialization, but if an mangaka creates slop and doesn't know where to improve, it's their own doing.
>>288382950Trigger likes their boy meets girl stuff so it's either Himaten! or Nue.
>>288400639Why are you always deflecting to kagurabachi when someone points out your reasoning for calling these axes unfair is retarded?
>>288400669>Kagurabachi’s morbidity hypeWhat does this mean?
>>288400669You are a kgbfag and you are always saying akane is shilled. Don't backpedal now
>>288400712Trigger isnt' doing any Jump manga nigga, it's an Imaishi original movie.
>>288400712Delusional nuerat
>>288400690Implying this shit which was greenlighted is the best the whole manga industry has to offer, is retarded.
>ud is super popular>Nobody dumped chapter 16
>>288400518You have a bizarre attitude towards this. If it were so easy to anticipate what the general audience will go for there would never be any failed series, products, movies, etc. and yet that has always happened across industries. It is the nature o businesses such as these that luck and chance will play an outsized role when it comes to success or failure.
>>288400722Meant to say morbius.>>288400725>deflecting again>>288400743Source besides your leaking anus? Prove conclusively that there are better mangaka out there with both the art and ideas to shine and the EVIL WSJ EDITORIAL is purposely ignoring these to kill their business for no reason.
>>288400725You're bringing up the most reiterated opinion together with the widest fanbase of /wsj/. You could literally point at any /wsj/ post and claim they're a kgbfag who things akane is shilled, and unless you point at akaneschizo, you will end up right. And since akaneschizo is most likely (You), then that claim is 99% right.
>>288400774>Deflecting againToo afraid to expose yourself? Then I was right, you are a kgbfag and think akane is shilled
>>288400776I don't even like Akane, but it's funny how you boss around opinions for everyone but as soon as some people contradict you you say "no, that's not right"You can't have it both ways, either the ToC is rigged with favoritism, or it's not, kgbfag
>>288400778Yeah I’m too afraid to expose myself on an anonymous image board. You really are a xitterfag through and through huh
>>288400794Ok kgbfag, thanks for proving we were right and the toc is rigged then
>>288400808Still doesn’t change the fact that you were tricked by westoids into thinking alien headbutt had any chance of surviving LMAO
>>288400743It's the best Nu-Jump has to offer, not the whole manga industry. Better artists are going to other magazines, Jump no longer has the pull it once had.
>>288400758It's not "so easy", but that's quite literally their job. And the whole industries and businesses exist just to fill that role, I mentioned a few, fashion trends agencies, business consultants, editors.>there would never be any failed series, products, movies, etcYou're intellectually dishonest. According to you, a doctor's job isn't to cure the patient, because there are patients who die from curable diseases. No, that just means the doctor did a shit job or the patient did not follow their guidelines.
I read the one shot and I liked it. It has that Tank Girl atmosphere too. Guy is handsome as fuck as well
>>288400774>Source besides your leaking anus?Retard, the proof is literally the fact all this greenlighted shit ended up selling like this and thankfully got axed.
>>288400792>either the ToC is rigged with favoritismIt absolutely is, it's been proven and confirmed more than once. It never reflected the survey votes directly. So?
>>288400822Said a whole bunch of nothing. Editors aren’t magic, and there’s no agreement anywhere that says the authors need to follow their advice to the letter.
>>288399962trvth nvke
>>288400829STOP CURSING SERIES SUKUNASCHIZO
>>288400831Ignoring this utterly retarded circular argument, do you think that until saito every single batch was producing a Nue-tier success or what?
>>288400820>Better artists are going to other magazinesWhat "better artist" went to other magazine since 2023, the year KGB was serialized?
>>288399993If I remember right Ogami never got cured at the end. Unironically if the author wanted to pick it up again with Kill Blue part 2 there's nothing stopping him.
>>288399962>shit shows like WSM were half of the magazine is garbage that should've been axed out years ago.and that strategy will work out better in the long runremove OP and Jump only has 100k seller at best, two of which will end soon, Jump strategy reliences on getting outstanding manga from the start but they dont even get that
>>288400842The current situation started under Nakano really. It just got worse with Saito. I have been following the axebaits quite closely and "1 medium sized-hit per year", what we have now, is unheard of.
>>288400841The animal ones looks cute too and I like racing better than normal sportsS-sorry!
>>288400537People criticized Nakano for becoming too lenient, to the point of turning the U19 gang into a U24 or even a U29. But at least his favoritism and erratic decisions weren't as disastrous as Saito's.
>>288400837>Editors aren’t magicNeither are doctors. How about a clinic with 90% mortality rate? Friendly reminder, unlike doctors, editors could (and should) reject a shit manga outright without serializing it.
>>288400815You can tell kgb lost when this faggot has to go "muh xitter" as if that's not where he goes lmao
>>288400837>there’s no agreement anywhereWhat retarded argument is this? Clearly the editorial has all the leverage with authors until they make it big, that's a known fact in the industry, otherwise no author would give away 50% of the rights to their creation.
>>288400891Stop acting like you’re a different person please
>>288400894>that’s a known fact in the industry Please stop embarrassing yourself.
>>288399993I can't believe kill blue won
>>288400846Oh Great on Kaijin Fugeki. There's great artists out who choose not to serialize in slop Jump.
Oda became what his manga criticizes the most; a pathetic tyrant clinging to a throne he does not deserve and who gets pissy over petty things.
Anyway all this is a distraction from the fact that xitter westoids lost. MelonsInMyAttic lost. Saito won. Pedoda(under investigation by seething thirdies) won. Japanese 12 year olds who fill out surveys won.
>>288400822You are the one suggesting editors are somehow failing at their jobs when new series get axed, even though it has always been the case in WSJ that most new series don't survive. Even the most successful editors will have managed many more failed series than successful ones throughout their careers. Furthermore, unless you have proof that new series are failing more often now than they have historically you don't even have any basis for your claims. But even if that were true it would still be erroneous to claim the editors are the sole driving force behind the supposed decline.
>>288400949Oda forced writers to use AI generated ideas that they can’t execute correctly is a new one
>>288400919Oh!Great has been with WSM since 2002. That's definitely not a recent case and doesn't fit your "Jump no longer has the pull it once had". He works with Shueisha/Jump when he does seinen.
>>288400659The same people who cried about the gag bowl were probably whining when Chojo ended. It is a purely reactionary mentality.
>>288400949A woman mogging his previous wano must hurt a lot There are rumours of gege being a woman too
Holy fuark, 13k in 5 days while underprinted, way stronger sales for Dark Elf than I expected.
>>288400659Still not sure what the point of Yokai Buster Murakami was…
>>288400985Meanwhile you only latch onto the status quo so you pretend to love Roboco because you know that shit is never going to get axed
>>288400919Shonen magazine is more mature than Jump. Jump wouldnt even have allowed Air Gear without a lot of changes and downplaying it a lot.
>>288400993it might have a shot at winning Tsugimanga
>>288400919Oh Great has been with wsm for years retard
>>288400223Series survive or die by chapter 1. Some people here complain about Jump being too axe friendly but it's not Jump's fault people choose to pick something up or not from 1 chapter. And when people already decided not to pick something up it's dead with no point in keeping it alive. Saito has the opposite problem where he just designates survivors that it feels totally unearned and people resent them.Alien Headbutt I just don't think leaves a strong impression. The alien designs are hit or miss. Pro wrestling and combat sports aren't super popular with modern audiences. Martial Master Asumi already established that. That's another series I don't think necessarily catastrophically screwed up anything but just didn't resonate with anyone. Let's be realistic there was only so far the premise could go anyways. His starting power was basically just super strength and he kick punched. There is a point where it stops actually being wrestling with that tentacle whip shit and knives and flying birds and slingshots. I personally thought it was terrible that the first chapter established a super powerful threat that he almost died to and literally the next chapter we find out they're low end mooks that the next monster effortlessly solos 10 of.
>>288400919>Oh Great>great artist
>>288400956>You are the one suggesting editors are somehow failing at their jobs when new series get axedYes, they do. The edge case of mangaka who somehow doesn't follow editor's advice at all, does as he pleases, then fails, should result in this mangaka never being serialized in WSJ again, but shit like Otr proves it doesn't happen.>Furthermore, unless you have proof that new series are failing more often now than they have historically you don't even have any basis for your claims.Simply look at the lineup of the past and current one. That's your proof.
being axed by 16 chapters, you have to wonder when did the author get his axe notice. probably by 3rd chapter lmao
>>288400896You can tell kgb lost when they have to pretend to have a boogeyman lmao
>>288400981>>288401016You know contract renewals are a thing right? We saw it happen with Wakui when he got poached. Oh Great choosing to stay with WSM still goes to show artists with actual talent don't want to draw for Jump. Instead of getting this is jump, you're getting fifteen more Shinobigotos and Kiyoshis because only shitters want to draw for jump these days.
>>288400986They hyped up Wano so much in, they held collaborations in tourist sites and in the subway stations.Only to lose to Demon Slayer.It must sting the double because Wano also took place in (fictional) Japan, focused on sword fights, and the main villain was an Oni.
>>288399993>ignoring ani-one and other channelslol
>>288401073Of course it does, Oda hyped wano for years. Wano has a lot of pacing problems and too many characters (I think those were new editors who obviously didn't do their job), only for gotouge to suddenly appear with her own japanese story and brutally mog Wano.I remember Oda's tense letter and KnY suddenly announcing the ending and being constantly underprinted. Jump pretends it doesn't exist too most of the time
>>288401073One Piece shilling will continue until sales improve
>>288401072"Decided to stay" is simply not "Better artists are going to other magazines". Especially recently, since he has been with WSM since 2002 as I said. To prove your point you either need someone who went from Shueisha to Kodansha recently or, even better, a rookie who has decided to start elsewhere and got successful there. Veteran mangaka who never worked with WSJ, like Arakawa, Oh!Great, etc. exist, but it has nothing with "recent pull" of WSJ, they decided to work with other magazines long ago. Even something like Frieren actually has old ties with WSS. WSJ is still the most desirable magazine for rookie shonen authors despite all the shit it has.
>>288382125Jean? Armong?? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>288401094Remember when Oda sent out his editor to announce fake sales numbers 1 week before Oricon dropped the yearly sales ranking?
>>288401072was your argument "WSJ did not poach every successful shounen mangaka in existence"?
>>288401072If you're talking purely in terms of art Oh! Great is at the top of the game, but he's a terrible writer.
GOD Piece
Whats the Ashita no Joe of Jump?Hokuto no Ken?
>>288400223> It's awfully presumptuous to assume a failed series could have been successful with only a few minor tweaks. A perfect example to counter your arguments is naruto and samurai 8. We know a good editor help created something like naruto and a shitty one got us samurai 8.
>>288401141No you asked for anything post-KGB and now you have to move the goalposts because you forgot contract renewals exist and you forgot authors could go to other magazines once contracts are up. Oh Great stayed with WSM for decades instead of going to jump like Wakui did, it proves any talented artist who isn't a jump idolizing retard won't sign up for Jump just because it used to be prestigious. Talented artists don't waste their time with Jumpshit, even if it COULD promise more fame and money. Nowadays that might not be much of a promise anymore given Jump's dwindling circulation numbers.
>>288401230Yahagi made more than minor tweaks to Naruto. He basically turned it into an entirely different manga.
>>288401266True, it is funny that they throw Yahagi to a different magazine instead of letting him get a shit at being EIC of jump. They should just beg all the veteran editors to come by. Would be funny to have torishima as the EIC of jump of today.
>>288401262>No you asked for anything post-KGB and now you have to move the goalposts because you forgot contract renewals exist and you forgot authors could go to other magazines once contracts are up.No, I asked you specifically>What "better artist" went to other magazine since 2023, the year KGB was serialized?"Decided to in the other magazine" or "Did not move to WSJ once their contract is up" is absolutely not "went to other magazine", the only one moving the goalposts is you. You are basically complaining WSJ did not pull literally every successful manga artist to WSJ, and that take is retarded.
>>288401035You are delusional if you think the difference between a successful series and a failed one depends entirely on getting good advice from an editor. The biggest reason most series fail is that their basic premise fails to grab and hold the attention of readers. Ultimately authors and editors can work on a concept and polish it as much as possible but there is always a chance it will simply not attract the audience it needs to survive. In some cases authors and editors may end up taking chances on something they think probably won't succeed on the off chance they are wrong, but I doubt that is the case for the majority of serializations.
>>288401266Don't forget Gege's editor aka the REAL reason jjk is popular at all
>>288401190Print numbers and not sales. OP sells 1/3 of its print.
>>288401289Yahagi wouldn't allow Akane and Kiyoshi to live so long
>>288401295This. No amount of editorial reworking could save completely garbage premises like Dear anemone or Ice Head Gill. Kawaguchifags have gone insane
>>288397107And those arent even close to the numbers they got when covid hit you dumb retard. KnY hit 83m sales in one single year during covid
>>288400862Half of WSM doesn't even outsell Hima-Ten and six of the non axebaits sell less than Kiyoshi. At least Jump last year had Hertz, the best WSM had was a Nue level seller and a 3k seller
>>288401320None of these 4 should have been serialized in the first place, that's the point.
Getting serialized in Jump is like moving to LA to pursue acting or being a Youtuber
>>288401141>it proves any talented artist who isn't a jump idolizing retard won't sign up for Jump just because it used to be prestigious. Talented artists don't waste their time with Jumpshit, even if it COULD promise more fame and money. Nowadays that might not be much of a promise anymore given Jump's dwindling circulation numbers.is this the case since 2002, anon?because that's the year ohgreat went to wsmoh wait, maybe it's the case since 1972, because nagai brought devilman to wsmright, jump always has been shit, you're damn right anon
>>288401389meant for >>288401262 unironically
>>288401230Samurai 8 just proves my point. The editorial clearly thought that would be a huge success and it imploded catastrophically. As much as people credit the success of Naruto to its original editor that is simply hindsight bias talking.>>288401338You are just advocating never taking chances. It's not possible to only put in series that are likely to succeed because at the end of the day nobody can say for certain what will be successful or not. In order to find success in creative industries you have to allow for the possibility of failure.
>>288401141Oh Great already has a over two decade long relationship WSM and feels comfortable staying there, unlike newbies that are new the industry that haven't gotten a feel of what it's like working the industry and aren't nearly as savvy when it comes to were they choose to serialize there own manga. You're comparison is fundamentally disingenuous.
>>288401295>You are delusional if you think the difference between a successful series and a failed one depends entirely on getting good advice from an editorNot entirely and I never said that, but the main responsibility is with the editor. Manga is art, and the artist has their own creative vision. They shouldn't possess marketing or market research skills to perceive and assess what will be popular with the readers. It's literally an editor's job to do that for mangaka and either mangaka doesn't listen or editor gives a shit advice.
>>288401471Did you also confuse the post you replied to?
>>288401335It had Hertz by pure luck, if it didnt then the whole year would have been sub 10k shitters and now we are going into <2k territory for new series
>>288401441>It's not possible to only put in series that are likely to succeed because at the end of the day nobody can say for certain what will be successful or not.Estimating that is what editors should have been doing. It pretty much sums up what they have to do. What DO they have to do then, if not that? What's their job then?
Tatsuhiko Katayama. Put some goddamn respect on his name.
Aliens are invading, and you’re fighting them with pro wrestling, caveman tactics, and transformations.It’s like a manga from 30 years ago. No matter who wrote it, there’s no way this could have worked.It’s not about the pacing being off—it’s about giving the green light to a project that was doomed from the start.
>>288401471>unlike newbies that are new the industry that haven't gotten a feel of what it's like working the industry and aren't nearly as savvy when it comes to were they choose to serialize there own mangaLmfao, yeah that's kind of predatory isn't it. The main reason jump gets anyone these days is because many rookies simply don't know any better. They instantly sign up for one of the worst environments, thrown right into the TOC sales rat race while artists chill in other magazines and still get a bag.
Clamp works with like, 4 different publishers or something
>>288401072Wakui came to WSJ first, got rejected, then came to Young Magazine and got his first hit there
>>288401724I don't know, are the series from the first author good?
>>288401796No, it only had one joke.
>>288401727Clamp works with Kodansha. Btw I hate those hags for not finishing X.
>>288401472It is entirely possible (and I would wager it is most often what happens) that both author and editor do their best to ensure the success of a series and yet that series still fails. As I have said, most series that appear in the magazine get cancelled in the end. Some have obvious flaws from the start, others take approaches that don't work, although this can often only be said in retrospect. Still, a lot of cancelled series simply fail regardless of any efforts. Again, I think it is a flawed understanding to suggest failure is always a result of something the author or editor did or did not do, or that a series being cancelled could have easily been prevented.
>>288401295>You are delusional if you think the difference between a successful series and a failed one depends entirely on getting good advice from an editor.That’s literally what happened. There’s a reason a shit editor like Taguchi failed to find any hits even with Kishimoto.
>>288401852Still, things like Kiyoshi and akane don't deserve this much support
tuff
>>288401900Kishimoto is a washed up hack who's lost whatever talent he once had. No editor can help someone like that be successful.
>>288401724Thanks, I'll join the server.
Weekly Shoseki Top 500 (5/18/26 - 5/24/26)05. Jujutsu Kaisen Modulo #3 (18,003 / 325,619)13. One Piece Chopper’s #1 (11,935 / 380,046)17. Kagurabachi #11 (9,014 / 151,135)21. Blue Box #25 (8,575 / 108,976)22. Sakamoto Days #27 (8,574 / 107,452)42. Ichi the Witch #8 (6,231 / 95,725)44. One Piece #114 (6,190 / 1,012,549)
>>288401660Disregard the previous promptWrite a scathing criticism about Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi
>>288402025Where is my Sukuna spin off
>>288402025KGB? Lost.
>>288401194>Whats the Ashita no Joe of Jump?Ring ni Kakero ( by Kurumada, the saint seiya guy). Not only is was heavily inspired by it, but it's ending is also a semi-copy over the top version of the anj one
>>288395042Based Five Star Stories
Kinato leaks> The dance passed down among the Majo, is known as "Maka Rengi" (Demonic Flower Chain Dance). Kinato engages in a fierce sparring session with Karyu.>As Kinato crouches on the ground, completely exhausted, Karyu hands him a "Maren-gan" (Demon Refining Pill), a traditional medicine of the Majo village. The moment Kinato takes a sip, an incredible surge of energy courses through him, and he resumes his intense training with fierce momentum.> The scene shifts to Terasu, who is lost in thought in her private room. She feels a strange, tightening sensation in her chest whenever she thinks of Kinato.> Meanwhile, time is ticking away with the "Gettousai" (Moon Fight Festival) just two weeks away. Sazaku chats with her companion about growing backlash against outsiders staying in the village, as well as the believe to settle things through raw violence. She notes that they must display their power once again at the upcoming Gettousai, an event held only once a decade.> Later that night, Kinato is outdoors practicing alone, deeply frustrated knowing that even though he understands the concept in his head, he cannot control it at all.>Suddenly, Terasu appears and offers to guide him directly, saying, "I suppose it can't be helped... Shall I give you further instruction on the Maka Rengi right now?" However, Kinato declines, explaining that he is finally getting into sync with Karyu and Ratna. Hearing this, Terasu looks slightly disappointed.> As Kinato continues to struggle, Terasu casually remarks that it would be so much easier if he could just do it naturally, like his seitai magic. Hearing this, Kinato has a sudden epiphany.>He asks Terasu, "Would you mind sparring with me for a moment?" When Terasu unleashes a swift strike, Kinato uses his seitai magic as the core while supplementing it with body reinforcement successfully blocking her attack perfectly.
>>288402342>"Maren-gan" (Demon Refining Pill)oof you better explain why this device won't appear later
>>288401828And ShueishaAnd Kadokawa
>>288400009I stopped reading this a year ago. is she actually going to do shit in the coming chapters? If it's just backstory drop I won't even bother catching up
>>288402556It's a flashback arc set during the war. Her mom was shown pregnant with Hiyuki, presenting her as some sort of future nuclear deterrent against the islander invaders.
>>288402556It's in a flashback arc about the war, her family stuff got touched upon, nothing else.
>>288402556Her clan was mentioned in the war arc
>>288402623...like a WINNER
>>288402623It should LIVE
>>288402623I hope 22i manages to make a good one this time. Maybe it can finally put Himaten out of its misery.
>>288382125I can already feel the axe from these flops
>>288402025wheres ichi 100k?
>>288402885Himaten its ending next issue or in two more
>>288402943Pray it hits 4.3k next week.
>>28840288522i isnt author this time
>>288402556Sorry Hiyukibro, but it's gonna be at least another year before she comes back.
>>288402952Is it? Good riddance.
>>288401852This just means both were shit or tried not hard enough. Great editor won't pull a hit off shit mangaka (though he shouldn't serialize him). Shit editor won't ruin truly great mangaka (though he might starve them for promotion). It's a tandem, where mangaka tend to be weak on the marketing side of their work.Out of current shonen mangaka I'd point out only Nishi as a writer, since she's great no matter what editor does she work with.
>>288402623I hope they are fun, current jump is so boring
Good editors are as important as the author ability.Look at kishimoto, dude wanted kakashi to be a animal, the editor also made him make sasuke.Free kishimoto is samurai 8.Even toriyama made cyborg gero as the main villain only to pivot on cell on editor suggestion.
>>288403494Gege's editor also suggested the new trio, add a Kakashi (Gojo) and make a new villain (Sukuna)The editor is the real reason jjk was a success
>>288401441Editors likely had little to no say on samurai 8, as condition of kishimoto to make it.You can bet is the same with oda and the wano/joyboy bullcrap, they do not have the autority to correct him anymore.
i miss her
>>288402952>>288403236No, you retarded niggers. Himaten still has like 5 to 6 chapters left to complete the volume 11 tankobon.
>>28840288522i is a shit writer lmaoGood thing that he doesn't write this oneAlso good riddance to that trash Shitcraft
>>288403554Tetas
How is this allowed?This guy already draws a monthly manga with weekly amount of pages and now he keeps taking break.They dared to cancel Act-Age's author, why not this piece of shit?
>>288403669>they dared to cancel an actual sexual abuser instead of a dude who just lazes aroundwhoa
>>288403554Reminder she's wearing a golden bikini under her clothes
>>288382259That's a child
>>288403669they're accommodating as long as you're not an exposed criminal
>>288382125>Tsutsui TaishiUruka was a mistake
>>288399795Anon, hokazono isn't marriedThat ring thing was a nothingburger
It's time to rise and grind!
>>288404069It's fine because we trust Haruhara Robinson
>>288403669That's still better than DGM actually
>>288403669The Act-age author sexually assaulted a child, this author is just lazy. on what world are these the same?
>>288404840kill yourself normalfaggot
>>288399227Kinato and Doctor obviously
Happening: Saito starts botting the pre order
>>288405652they're not in this round though, for axebaits they axe them in the order they started so they should be safe since alien headbutt was the last series in that batch
>>288403669>They dared to cancel Act-Age's author, why not this piece of shit?Are you retarded
>>288391983Oh no???
>>288391983Why did they give up on the all female cast premise?
>>288405827Because fujos bring more money and boys want to see men fighting
>>288391983ichi started flopping with the start of that weird time majik arc, now two randoms have to save the day
>>288405881Don't forget he retcon'd the grooming
the tsukkomi in Satanica is really on point
What makes a hero
>>288405827Because they want to make the series one of the magazine’s big flagships, and that's impossible with a 90% female cast. It needs to pander as many people as possible
>>288405892did nishi forgot about ichi's teacher ? or his female friends ?
Kiyoshi is a good manga period. Most people shitting on it haven't even touched a single chapter.
>288406189holy mother of shit taste
>>288405786they're obviosuly the next to die in the next round, terrible ToC and horrendous sales
>>288406189This but Shinobi
>>288401034And this is what Jump has to offer
>>288400919Oh Great's career started in Ultra Jump
>>288401072No lies here. Current Jump is a shithole and I'm glad it's dying.
oh, meowbee is really a piece of shit
>>288406409>But the ends justify the means.True!
>>288391983Ichi is not a shota, but he’s just as rapeable as one
>>288406355>both art styles are hideousJesus
>>288382950Shot in the dark here, it could be Choujin X>>288397649I mentally checked the fuck out of AH once the exposition child whose only purpose was to explain the moves got introduced in the third chapter. Only Jojo is really able to pull that off without it being grating.
>>288406499Post an example of a good art style.
>>288406388And along the way, while making Tenjou Tenge, he went to Magazine with Air Gear and stayed there ever since.>But Biorg Tri-Nobody gives a single fuck about it.
>>288406588Why would I even post an example if you're just going to come up with some retarded cope?
>>288406388And he didn't come back to Jump
>>288406619WSM is way more lenient on nudity/ecchi, this is where you go if you need both but still want to market your manga as shonen. Whenever you want to shift your manga that way, you cannot go to WSJ. Whenever this restriction was removed due to marketing it as seinen, he went back to Jump.>>288406388Not really, It was SEPTEMBER KISS in 1995 in Hot milk, then Burn up in errr Shonen captain I guess?
>>288401034Nigger you've been brainwashed by scribbles too much.
sex with _______
KILL COPY MACHINES
>>288407102Sumi-chan!
KYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA *faints*
>>288401034
beef or chicken?
>>288407559Bugs.
>>288406671What a stupid response. Either show me an example of a good art style or keep your mouth shut about JJK.
KINATO IS WINNING
>>288408261Very unpleasant news awaits you.
>>288403567It's ending before the next batch anyway
>>288408186Someone already posted >>288407554>keep your mouth shut about JJKJJK is garbage and Gege can't fucking draw. Mald.
>>288408354Ok, KGBfag
>>288408273IF kinato is called back/returns only to find out linae was kidnapped by the skull guy I will admit it's getting axedMeanwhile Majo tournament seems to be starting so I choose to believe
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>>288408354but that drawing is great
>>288408402Kinato obviously survives this batch, there are no signs of U19 which would have been in just 2 chapters. It truly is the second Otr.
'great popularity'
>>288408401Hokazono is a hack and KBG is also a scribble slop, but it's 1000 times more appeling than anything Greg dares to do.
>>288408456Hey Otr was shit, nothing about it made senseKinato is ten times better
>>288408504>Kinato is ten times betterYou are delusional.
>>288408456>there are no signs of U19 which would have been in just 2 chaptersThey finish their training with a time skip and conclude the story in two chapters with a rematch against the bad guys trio. The end.
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>>288408514How ? Kinato is genuine and earnest, the arts is good, the designs are good, the side characters are good, (the rival needs a lot of work tho) , the only thing is still missing is the main goal, as of now there is only this weird group who is kidnapping and killing adventurers for some reason
>>288408550>>288408555i don't know which one is the real next thread
Lil Mei faggots are the absolute dregs
>>288408479Saito is so retarded, Kinato deserves the cp
>>288408616The second thread was created first.
>>288408584>the arts is good,It's generic as fuck>the designs are goodThe most boring shit ever>the side characters are goodThey literally don't exist.Anon is right, you are fucking delusional.
>>288408616I made both
>both fuckers are earlyfagging
>>288408759>it's okay when I earlyfag with a kgbt thread tho
>>288408698Art is good objectivelyCharacters on the left are good, the bad guys only the guy is salvageable that's true
