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Do you think it's possible for a series in this day and age to gain mainstream popularity without having a roster of explicit "waifu bait" characters?

Feels like something like Chainsaw Man stayed relevant even after a disappointing anime S1 adaptation purely thanks to the female characters that are easy to put into pornographic situations in fanart that kept it on life support online to the point where the movie was a huge hit anyway
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>Women is shown
>Wah wah, she is a waifu, no respect for women, wha wah

>Show has no female characters
>Noooooo, this anime is sexist, Japan is sexist, noooooo
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>>288383781
Jujutsu Kaisen
Go ahead and talk me about the "waifu bait" characters there
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>>288383805
No one is saying this here
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>>288383805
No I'm not talking about that, just how "waifu bait" translates into success

Take Mob Psycho for example, it's indisputably one of the best series and adaptations in recent memory but you'll find few people talking about it or making fan art compared to how mediocre OPM got story-wise and how bad the adaptation has become and how long it's taking yet how huge it still is, and I think it's mostly down to the fact the esper sisters are keeping it on life support whereas Mob has zero notable female characters in terms of what fandom circles want

>>288383831
Nobara and Maki aren't explicit waifu bait but they still get tons of art as if they were, I think Gege is skilled enough of a writer to be able to both get the waifu boost without outright whoring them out, but I do prefer the JJK approach over most others
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Yes, it is entirely possible for a modern anime series to achieve massive mainstream popularity without relying on "waifu bait" characters.
* Attack on Titan: Focused on political intrigue and survival.
* Jujutsu Kaisen: Thrives on complex magic systems and high-tier animation.
* Mob Psycho 100: Relies on emotional growth and surreal comedy.
* Vinland Saga: A gritty, historical drama focused on revenge and pacifism.
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>series is about 4 gay dudes
>zero notable female characters
>one of the most revered and anticipated series of all time
You'll never see something like this again
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>288383945
kys
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>>288383945
>Attack on Titan
Once in a lifetime exception that also managed to draw in people that are usually not into anime, 10+ years old
>Jujutsu Kaisen
Still gets tons of waifu art that boosts it on top of the other quality aspects
>Mob Psycho 100
Extremely neglected series given the quality, not exactly mainstream the way the big hitters are
>Vinland Saga
Almost 10 years old, fell off hard in popularity very fast
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Nobody in the JJk cares about Nobara and Maki get OP act as if them are "waifu" characters
Interesting
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>>288383945
Thanks ChatGPT
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>>288383781
>waifu bait
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>>288384036
It's a fujo series like Haikyu or Blue Lock
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Would JJK be nearly as half as popular as it was without their waifu bait characters?
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>>288383781
Read anything other than shonen retarded tourist. Shonen is a for young boys, and guess what, young boys (and any straight man) like hot women you retard
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>>288383831
>>288383914
Jujutsu is for fujos
>I think Gege is skilled enough of a writer to be able to both get the waifu boost without outright whoring them out, but I do prefer the JJK approach over most others
The absolute state. You really should kill yourself

>>288383945
Funny how all of those minus Mob Psycho are slop for literal cattle
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>>288384428
>gayjutsu kikesen faggots proud that their series is a sausage fest
>reddit filename to top it off
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>>288385631
Name some mainstream non-shonen anime
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>>288385631
Not according to Reddit
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>>288385763
Death Note, Cowboy Bebop, Monster, Psycho-Pass, and Violet Evergarden
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>>288385868
>all 10+ years old
OP's point proven
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>>288385874
No it isnt you stupid retard, OP never talked about a specific time frame
You and OP also need to fuck off from anime and manga and go back to rddit
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How JJK being "Fujo" is an argument against it being a popular anime of the last decade without waifu bait
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>>288385884
jujutsu kaisen has waifu bait, its just for women/gays
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>>288383781
Anime and Manga are for straight men for the most part, OP. You can find something without hot women in it in the Boy Love category
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>>288383781
I am tired of perverted fanservice for gooners in animes too, thats why i love Solo Levelling, Jujutsu Kaisen and Attack on Titan.
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>>288385913
Does Mob Psycho not deserve to be much more popular than whatever FOTM slop has been dominating charts
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>>288385955
I don't want fanservice removed, I want for series without fanservice to have an equal shot at mainstream popularity
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>>288385956
It does not plus Mob Psycho has ''waifu bait'' in it too
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>>288385939
All the anime i said were made in this day and age you retard
>>>/co/ would be a much better fit for you
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>>288383781
Yeah, just focus on the action and fighting like JJK does and you can have a full male cast and still be popular.

Female characters tend to generate more fanart in general thought, so it's not a good metric for overall popularity.
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>>288385999
>>All the anime i said were made in this day and age you retard
No they weren't, they're all 10+ years old
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>>288385977
>Mob Psycho has ''waifu bait'' in it too
Name them
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>>288385763

Some of the most mainstream non-shonen anime include global hits like Seinen blockbusters, psychological thrillers, and iconic Shojo classics. Shonen targets young teenage boys, so these popular titles belong to other demographics like Seinen (older men), Shojo (young girls), or are original television productions.
Seinen (Targeted at Adult Men)

Vinland Saga: A critically acclaimed historical epic following a young Viking's quest for vengeance and his eventual journey toward pacifism.
Monster: A slow-burn psychological thriller about a brilliant brain surgeon chasing down a charismatic serial killer he once saved
Kaguya-sama: Love is War: One of the most popular modern romantic comedies where two genius students wage psychological warfare to force the other to confess their love first.
Steins;Gate: A highly celebrated sci-fi thriller centered on a group of eccentric friends who accidentally invent a text-based time machine.
Berserk: A dark fantasy cornerstone following Guts, a lone mercenary fighting against brutal fate and horrific demons.
Tokyo Ghoul: While often mistaken for shonen due to its action, this dark supernatural tragedy about flesh-eating ghouls was serialized in a seinen magazine

Shojo & Josei (Targeted at Girls & Adult Women):
Fruits Basket: A monumental supernatural drama about a girl who discovers a family cursed to turn into animals of the Chinese zodiac when hugged by the opposite sex.Sailor Moon: The definitive magical girl series that became a global pop-culture phenomenon.The Apothecary Diaries: A historical mystery series following a sharp-witted young woman solving medical conspiracies inside an imperial palace.Nana: A legendary Josei drama tracing the intertwined lives, musical careers, and rocky romances of two completely different women named Nana
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>>288386257
see >>288385874
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>>288383781
Waifu doesn't mean anime woman, OP
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>>288386315
That's why it's in quotes
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>>288386163
The hot tomboy
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>>288385868
>Death Note
>not shounen
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>>288383781
Yes, obviously. Kagurabachi blew up just recently despite having only a handful of female characters none of whom code as waifubait. Fujobaiting is still a much more consistent path to success for most series.
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>>288383805
They want the JJK route where all men are fit, ikemen, or pretty boys and all the women are butch, and masculine. It's always projection. Women and homos accuse us of exactly what they themselves want. Plain/sexually none competitive women, and very attractive men.
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>>288383781
>Do you think it's possible for a series in this day and age to gain mainstream popularity without having a roster of explicit "waifu bait" characters?
An anime popularity and fandom lives or dies by the amount of waifu bait artist can make porn of long after the series ends
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>>288390901
For a month. Hence the term FOTM



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