Do you think it's possible for a series in this day and age to gain mainstream popularity without having a roster of explicit "waifu bait" characters?Feels like something like Chainsaw Man stayed relevant even after a disappointing anime S1 adaptation purely thanks to the female characters that are easy to put into pornographic situations in fanart that kept it on life support online to the point where the movie was a huge hit anyway
>Women is shown>Wah wah, she is a waifu, no respect for women, wha wah>Show has no female characters>Noooooo, this anime is sexist, Japan is sexist, noooooo
>>288383781Jujutsu KaisenGo ahead and talk me about the "waifu bait" characters there
>>288383805No one is saying this here
>>288383805No I'm not talking about that, just how "waifu bait" translates into successTake Mob Psycho for example, it's indisputably one of the best series and adaptations in recent memory but you'll find few people talking about it or making fan art compared to how mediocre OPM got story-wise and how bad the adaptation has become and how long it's taking yet how huge it still is, and I think it's mostly down to the fact the esper sisters are keeping it on life support whereas Mob has zero notable female characters in terms of what fandom circles want >>288383831Nobara and Maki aren't explicit waifu bait but they still get tons of art as if they were, I think Gege is skilled enough of a writer to be able to both get the waifu boost without outright whoring them out, but I do prefer the JJK approach over most others
Yes, it is entirely possible for a modern anime series to achieve massive mainstream popularity without relying on "waifu bait" characters. * Attack on Titan: Focused on political intrigue and survival.* Jujutsu Kaisen: Thrives on complex magic systems and high-tier animation.* Mob Psycho 100: Relies on emotional growth and surreal comedy.* Vinland Saga: A gritty, historical drama focused on revenge and pacifism.
>series is about 4 gay dudes>zero notable female characters >one of the most revered and anticipated series of all timeYou'll never see something like this again
>288383945kys
>>288383945>Attack on TitanOnce in a lifetime exception that also managed to draw in people that are usually not into anime, 10+ years old>Jujutsu KaisenStill gets tons of waifu art that boosts it on top of the other quality aspects>Mob Psycho 100Extremely neglected series given the quality, not exactly mainstream the way the big hitters are >Vinland SagaAlmost 10 years old, fell off hard in popularity very fast
Nobody in the JJk cares about Nobara and Maki get OP act as if them are "waifu" charactersInteresting
>>288383945Thanks ChatGPT
>>288383781>waifu bait
>>288384036It's a fujo series like Haikyu or Blue Lock
Would JJK be nearly as half as popular as it was without their waifu bait characters?
>>288383781Read anything other than shonen retarded tourist. Shonen is a for young boys, and guess what, young boys (and any straight man) like hot women you retard
>>288383831>>288383914Jujutsu is for fujos>I think Gege is skilled enough of a writer to be able to both get the waifu boost without outright whoring them out, but I do prefer the JJK approach over most othersThe absolute state. You really should kill yourself>>288383945Funny how all of those minus Mob Psycho are slop for literal cattle
>>288384428>gayjutsu kikesen faggots proud that their series is a sausage fest>reddit filename to top it off
>>288385631Name some mainstream non-shonen anime
>>288385631Not according to Reddit
>>288385763Death Note, Cowboy Bebop, Monster, Psycho-Pass, and Violet Evergarden
>>288385868>all 10+ years oldOP's point proven
>>288385874No it isnt you stupid retard, OP never talked about a specific time frameYou and OP also need to fuck off from anime and manga and go back to rddit
How JJK being "Fujo" is an argument against it being a popular anime of the last decade without waifu bait
>>288385884jujutsu kaisen has waifu bait, its just for women/gays
>>288383781Anime and Manga are for straight men for the most part, OP. You can find something without hot women in it in the Boy Love category
>>288383781I am tired of perverted fanservice for gooners in animes too, thats why i love Solo Levelling, Jujutsu Kaisen and Attack on Titan.
>>288385913Does Mob Psycho not deserve to be much more popular than whatever FOTM slop has been dominating charts
>>288385955I don't want fanservice removed, I want for series without fanservice to have an equal shot at mainstream popularity
>>288385956It does not plus Mob Psycho has ''waifu bait'' in it too
>>288385939All the anime i said were made in this day and age you retard>>>/co/ would be a much better fit for you
>>288383781Yeah, just focus on the action and fighting like JJK does and you can have a full male cast and still be popular. Female characters tend to generate more fanart in general thought, so it's not a good metric for overall popularity.
>>288385999>>All the anime i said were made in this day and age you retardNo they weren't, they're all 10+ years old
>>288385977>Mob Psycho has ''waifu bait'' in it tooName them
>>288385763Some of the most mainstream non-shonen anime include global hits like Seinen blockbusters, psychological thrillers, and iconic Shojo classics. Shonen targets young teenage boys, so these popular titles belong to other demographics like Seinen (older men), Shojo (young girls), or are original television productions. Seinen (Targeted at Adult Men)Vinland Saga: A critically acclaimed historical epic following a young Viking's quest for vengeance and his eventual journey toward pacifism.Monster: A slow-burn psychological thriller about a brilliant brain surgeon chasing down a charismatic serial killer he once savedKaguya-sama: Love is War: One of the most popular modern romantic comedies where two genius students wage psychological warfare to force the other to confess their love first.Steins;Gate: A highly celebrated sci-fi thriller centered on a group of eccentric friends who accidentally invent a text-based time machine.Berserk: A dark fantasy cornerstone following Guts, a lone mercenary fighting against brutal fate and horrific demons.Tokyo Ghoul: While often mistaken for shonen due to its action, this dark supernatural tragedy about flesh-eating ghouls was serialized in a seinen magazineShojo & Josei (Targeted at Girls & Adult Women):Fruits Basket: A monumental supernatural drama about a girl who discovers a family cursed to turn into animals of the Chinese zodiac when hugged by the opposite sex.Sailor Moon: The definitive magical girl series that became a global pop-culture phenomenon.The Apothecary Diaries: A historical mystery series following a sharp-witted young woman solving medical conspiracies inside an imperial palace.Nana: A legendary Josei drama tracing the intertwined lives, musical careers, and rocky romances of two completely different women named Nana
>>288386257see >>288385874
>>288383781Waifu doesn't mean anime woman, OP
>>288386315That's why it's in quotes
>>288386163The hot tomboy
>>288385868>Death Note>not shounen
>>288383781Yes, obviously. Kagurabachi blew up just recently despite having only a handful of female characters none of whom code as waifubait. Fujobaiting is still a much more consistent path to success for most series.
>>288383805They want the JJK route where all men are fit, ikemen, or pretty boys and all the women are butch, and masculine. It's always projection. Women and homos accuse us of exactly what they themselves want. Plain/sexually none competitive women, and very attractive men.
>>288383781>Do you think it's possible for a series in this day and age to gain mainstream popularity without having a roster of explicit "waifu bait" characters?An anime popularity and fandom lives or dies by the amount of waifu bait artist can make porn of long after the series ends
>>288390901For a month. Hence the term FOTM