How come female mangaka generate more kino per capita than male mangaka when they do shonen?
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>>288400092They have sex, male mangaka don't
>>288400092This was just okay. The manga my cock really got hard for was Houseki no Kuni.
When a foid speaks i shut up and listen.
>>288400092Their different perspectives offer a lot of novelty in a genre where there is none.
>>288400648That is genetically true.
Female mangaka read books, male mangaka read manga
>>288400092>per capitaFucking racist
>>288400092Female mangaka typically write protagonists who are sonfu/husbando bait, so they are cuter/cooler than the average male self-insert, at least in female readers' eyes. Their male protagonists' also have a wider appeal thanks to their selfless goals and motivations. Typical shounen protagonist written by a guy is like "I want to be the strongest", "I want my face carved on a mountain", "I love punching people", "wooooo adventure!" They are often reckless, dumb, and their goals are selfish at their core even if there's a sad backstory to prop them up. This kind of MC activates the neurons of young boys and manchildren, and no one else probably. MCs in shounen and seinen written by women on the other hand (like Ed, Tanjirou, Laios, Yuru, Inuyasha, TRC!Syaoran, etc.) typically don't embark on an adventure for adventure's sake. Most of the time they are propelled by a desire to save their loved ones (and other humanitarian reasons), and a lot of them tried to enjoy a quiet life before the plot kicked in. Then the tragedy strikes, and the MC has to save their family, lover, country, the world, etc. This kind of scenario is more relatable to a wider range of people, especially women, who are less likely to understand and empathize with characters who put themselves in danger just for the sake of glory and for shits and giggles.
>>288400092I mostly agree but I can't advance with dungeon meshi in particular. Everyone says it's so good, at what point does it develop a plot beyond episodic recipes?
>>288402234>muh plotyup, you're better off sticking to shonenshit
>>288402241It doesn't then? I'm not here to argue, I just wanna know if I should push a bit further or it isn't for me
>>288400092you need to have some kind of mental illness to make good art, neurotypicals are incapable of creationmost male writers are saneall women are mentally ill in some way
>>288402234The amount of plot sort of increases over time but it stays pretty episodic throughout. I think around episode 13 or volume 5 of the manga it shifts a bit more toward the plot side.
>>288402234Around ep 8. If you still hate it at that point just drop it.
>>288402402>>288402403Ok ty anons I'll push a bit further
>>288400129Diamond hard?
>>288400092Most japanese men want to draw manga because they loved that shit as a kid, It's more like a job for the majority of themMost japanese women want to draw manga because they have stories they want to tell
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>>288400092this isn't even shonen anon
>>288400455>I don't think there've been any female prodigies in the architectural or art world.ARAKI????????
>>288402677I don't read this manga and idk what point you're trying to make.
>>288400092>why are female writers better than males>always post the same 2 examples (dungeon and fma)You're a retarded faggot and you bait is shit >>288402197>>288402234Kek, this place is genuinely full of drooling morons
>>288402857kaiman showing how le fuarking strong he is
>>288402904phonetoddler detected, opinion discardedNatsume Ono, est em, Yuuki Shikawa, Haruko Ichikawa, Satoko Kiyuzuki, Yumiko Ooshima, Yuki Urushibara, Chihiro Ishizuka, CLAMP, Rumiko Takahashi, Moto Hagio, Saki Hiwatari, Machiko Hasegawa, Keiko Takemiya, Akimi Yoshida, Naoko Takeuchi, Kore Yamazaki, Riyoko Ikeda, Q Hayashida, Fumiyo Kono, Momoko Sakura,Yoshinaga Fumi, Chica Umino, Tomoko Yamashita...All of them are better than your favorite mangaka.Moto Hagio and Keiko Takemiya alone are better than every single western sci-fi author.
>>288402904You seem butthurt
>>288402857>female author>protagonist is an incredibly violent monster that only cares about food and revenge>I didn't read this mangaincorrectfix yourself
>>288400092Dungeon Meshi wasn't published in a shonen magazine.
>>288403023yeah I don't know why that guy said 100% of writers are like that with no exceptionsoh wait, he didn't say any of that
>>288403034>no stop talking about thingssorry I will abstain
>>288402677>>288403023Kaiman is violent and anti-social (so is everyone on Dorohedoro), but he's also driven by a very sympathetic and personal goal of figuring out his identity and getting revenge on the sorcerers that ruined his home. Not at all the same as wanting to be the "best knife fighter to ever exist!!"
>>288402760READ THE LITERAL FIRST POST
>>288403023>protagonist is an incredibly violent monster that only cares about food and revengeThe buff lizard is cool though, and the author looks like she's into freaky shit so she probably thinks he's the hottest.>food and revengeThat's still more relatable than stereotypical shounen autism, and it's seinen so it makes sense that the mc is more edgy. We were mostly talking about shounen though.Anyway, where's the lie?
>>288402197Your entire wall of retardation boils down to "wider appeal = more gooder", which should immediately alert you to why everything you said is stupid, and so are you.
>>288403819No, it boils down to "wider appeal=relatability and universal values."
>>288403877>>288402197Except this is wrong. Your entire post is how female mangakas.manage to make characters that have a wider appeal, specially to women, but if you check what series are popular among women you will see thats stuff like MHA and JJK. who both outsold DM by a lot.The idea that shonen protagonist usually just do things for the sake of glory is also false. Perhaps Goku and Luffy, but the usual shonen protag always tends to have something else going on for them.
>>288402197Based
>>288404129Compare DM to other non-WSJ series, and it is obviously extremely successful. Possibly the most successful manga Harta ever published.
>>288400092They don't, dung meshit flopped and got mogged by frieren.
>>288400092Because you're some stupid simp
>>288404129Arakawa's stuff was (and still probably is) ridiculously popular. CLAMP used to be popular when they were still releasing stuff. Rumiko is still popular. etc.>The idea that shonen protagonist usually just do things for the sake of glory is also false. Perhaps Goku and Luffy, but the usual shonen protag always tends to have something else going on for them.To simplify my point even further, most shounen/seinen written by women boils down to "shit got fucked, time to unfuck it" which happens right at the start, not like midway through the manga. This kind of writing is easy to understand and extremely relatable to all (unlike characters like Goku and Luffy, whose brand of competitiveness and wunderlust appeals more to boys and men) and it's not always about lofty goals and virtuous characters. Stuff like revenge plots, "I lost my body and I want it back" falls into the same category imo. The stories written by men that are popular with women have similar kind of writing and/or compensate with copious amounts of fujobait, shipping bait, and cute boys typically designed by a guy who's at least a little bit gay so he knows what women like (Togashi and the author of JJK for example.)Also like I said, male MCs created by female mangaka tend to be cooler, smarter, and more conventionally attractive. Shounen protagonists written by men tend to be bland or dumb as bricks, and for whatever reason a lot of male writers love to humiliate their male MCs (Renton, Shinji, the guy from Kaiju no. 8, etc...) and make them look lame. I don't think female readers like this. They prefer cool MCs like Ichigo, Ed, Senku or at least the type of cutesy loser they can insert into and ship with a more chadly character.
>>288404466Trigger ruined it.
