>>288411488
Scratching an itch? Yeah sure. Just look how relieved she looks.

you know the vast majority of yuri is gooner material for guys right

Magical Girl Trial real yuri, or just super best friends?

>>288411569
Most yuri is published in seinen magazine, but most isn’t porn. Plus: two yuri series explicitly for women sell more than yuri for guys combined

>>288411718
I know Green Yuri, but what's the other popular yuri manga that actually sells?

>>288411761
She Loves to Cook and She Loves to Eat

>>288411718
>>288411761
>>288411847
First let's stop the retardation, I didn't know twitter was a explicitly for women platform, I know it looks like this because of the amount of men claiming to be women there, but regardless Kadokawa also does not sell Green manga under their josei label which they sell Tsukutabe and Koinega.

Second Tsukitabe had virtually no competition, every other josei work either flops hard or does not last long, at least Koinega seems to be selling tons of merch, though anecdotal evidence shows it in a lot of male otaku purchases, which also makes you wonder how much publishing under a josei label even matters for audiences like yuri, seems like having a fatso in the cover is a much more effective filter for the male demographic.

>>288411986
>Kadokawa also does not sell Green manga under their josei label
It has a josei tag on Bookwalker. I also doubt that both would sell less of there was 2-3x as many josei yuri series.

>>288411986
>vast majority of yuri is gooner material for guys
>no it's not, the most popular yuri aren't remotely like that
>wall of text asking others to stop their retardation that immediately derails into complaints about crossdressers on twitter before petering into some inane argument about how yes they're popular but for different reasons
Ok

>>288411569
ok?

>>288412099
So are Kuma Kuma Bear or The Office Lady Who Wants to Serve the Villainess, both just like Green manga are also not published in josei magazines.

>I also doubt that both would sell less of there was 2-3x as many josei yuri series.
Hilarious math considering how little of those are, you are talking about adding maybe 8 or 12 titles, how about you add instead 50 or 60 and see if there is a difference.

>>288412101
The word is not crossdresser it's tranny.

you yuri pigs need to organize your general

>>288411569
>gooner
dumb normalfag

>>288412314
what is a tranny if not a crossdresser?

>>288412314
>official bookwalker tags don’t count even though that’s how more people would find the work rather than through the magazines
Of anything, adding more yuri series in josei magazines would increase the sales of those works because there would be more pipelines into the yuri genre. Either way, it’s an unprovable statistic on both of our endsz

>>288412474
Well they are factually not published in josei magazines or under josei labels, unless you want to make the argument Kuma Kuma Bear and Green manga have the exactly same audience you will have to accept that bookwalker tags are not the statement you think they are. And I am pretty sure most people will find the work over twitter, than comicwalker or any other place where the work is available to read and the amount of people who go over bookwalker to directly search for works to buy is minimal in comparison.

>Of anything, adding more yuri series in josei magazines would increase the sales of those works because there would be more pipelines into the yuri genre.
Would it increase the number of consumers in the long run? Yes, but this is besides the point, our argument is whether those sales are directly affected by the low amount of titles and especially of popular titles for this audience not whether it's a net positive for the genre.

>>288412359
I prefer the term "lily swine", thank you.

>>288412612
Kitora is a digital-only magazine, so it’s not like it has a different tag that contradicts the bookwalker one.

>whether those sales are directly affected by the low amount of titles
Even if I accept your argument that they would decrease the sales, the total sales of yuri in josei magazines would outstrip the ones published in seinen magazines.

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>>288411718
Watanare is for guys and not only is the anime the most successful TV Yuri anime in the modern era, it's sold more than almost all yuri in recent years.

>>288412794
Bold thing to say when in 20 years you only have a single popular title actually published under a josei label, even if I was generous and allowed you to consider Green manga one too, the market would take at a decade to grow to a point to eclipse 50 or so titles.

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>>288412956
Watanare has a large female following both in Japan and the west.

>>288412956
She Loves to Eat/Cook got a second season and sells more per volume than Watanare, although it is still pretty successful and mostly with guys.

>>288413033
The Watanare movie screening was about 90% men and Watanare gets a lot of hate within the yuri fanbase just because a lot of it elements and structure appeal more to men than women.

>>288413039
Why a guy would want to see a landwhale? Why anybody would want that?

>>288413017
It’s factually true because if there was a Blue manga that took half of the sales of Green, it would still add up to the original sales amount.

The problem is yuri for women don't get anime but goes to live action instead.

>>288413076
Guys mostly didn’t. Its fanbase was probably mostly women who don’t consume that much yuri. In contrast, so think Watanare’s success half came from its popularity with the core yuri audience on top of the in roads it made with outsiders.

>>288412956
Kaho is so erotic

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>>288411488
What are some red flags for you in yuri? Things that make you immediately realize what you're reading or watching is gonna be bad? I'll start with an easy one.
>bisexual girl is antagonistic or treated as a villain
Massive red flag that the writing quality is going to be subpar.

>>288413083
Yes, but your audience at a given time will only be so big and have so much money avaliable, big titles bring new consumers and those don't show up often.

>>288413068
If that’s true, it mean Ajisai won. I hope Teren stick to the Mai end

>>288412956
I'm surprised you didn't include MahoAko.

>>288413259
MahoAko is an ecchi show. The “yuri” is a side-effect of not allowing men to sulling the waifus

>>288413284
You might as well say that about Watanare or all yuri published in seinen magazines, if you’re going to take the worst opinion.

>>288413284
Why is yuri in scare quotes?

>>288413343
Watanare is a genderbent otome

>>288413551
It’s not because it features as much fanservice of Renako and it does her love interest.

>>288411488
>Yuri
Don't ask stupid questions, everything is normal in yuri

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Why are charismatic yuri MCs like Botan so rare?

>>288413634
Because yuri

>>288413634
You need an author who enjoys seeing them getting fucked by old men, apparently

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Is it gay if it’s part of a play?

>>288413634
Because they don't need to be anything but a loser and still get the girl in yuri. See: Bocchi

>>288413715
Bocchi is as yuri as Silent Witch

>>288413715
The yuri in Bocchi doesn’t even involve her.

>>288413579
Obviously you never watch an otome or read shoujo smut

>>288413738
What's the yuri in Bocchi? I'm anime only

>>288413726
>>288413738
Bocchi yuri deniers don't get to heaven

>>288413790
The one-sided crush Kita has on Ryou.

>>288413801
Bocchi being into girls is a separate question from whether she’ll date one by the end.

>>288413838
>Bocchi being into girls is a separate question from whether she’ll date one by the end.
By this logic no ongoing manga is yuri if the girls haven't hooked up yet.

>>288413153
Pretty much anything bisexual yeah. Anything involving bisexual people ends up being terribly written or a dramafest.

>>288413850
Ongoing yuri manga at least focus on the relationships and build up to them. Bocchi does not, and it doesn’t look like it’s building up to that.

>>288413033
>Liko in the back
Based

Akebi going full yuri was still a great surprise. We need more girls only stuff doing that

>>288413099
I think you're confusing that for BL.

>>288413284
Based on what I've seen, most Mahaoko fans don't give a shit about yuri, they only watch it because it's ecchi.

>>288414117
Based on what I've seen you're a faggot.

You can tell Watanare is popular with men because there's so much ai fanart of the girls getting fucked by random faceless guys.

>>288414023
Everyone says this but if you rephrase it as
>we need more cgdct that take a decade to show their hand
you'll find no takers. Akebi is remarkable because it bridges generations of thought, you can't repeat that.

>>288414170
well yea it's a harem yuri obviously it's going to be popular with men

>>288414198
Would Watanare not be as popular if it had multiple pairings instead of a harem?

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>>288413917
So do you consider Kannazuki no Miko, which has a bisexual MC a bad anime?

>>288414198
Most of that comes from people who don't give a fuck about the show, but still find the girls hot enough to masturbate to.

>>288414234
Even outside of purityfags, people generally agree that the actual plot is non-sensical and the guy character was extremely forced.

I don't care what you say. Unless the character says she is a bisexual she is always just a lesbian or lesbian-in-training.

>>288414222
maybe but it would still be popular bc it's a bunch of big-boobed lesbian high school girls

>>288414645
Shouldn’t all yuri succeed then?

I dont understand why the femoid hogs can't stay on /u/ so we can have comfy threads here.

>>288414260
90% of male yuri audiences just like seeing girls kiss

>>288414681
i think it's because there are more girls which then are more sexualized in watanare than other yuris

>>288414722
Sorry I meant to reply to:>>288414170

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Is this really what you guys want to argue about every single day of your lives?

>>288414784
yea

>>288414170
Don't see how that's related. Literally one jeet can spam thousands of AI art due to how spammable it is

>>288414756
5-6 is about par I think

Blooming Complex ch9-1
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/a_blooming_complex_ch9_1

Why does every yurihater post like an elitist midwit while also having a total meltdown and being a mentally ill ESL?

Post new shuukura ch link

>>288414096
Google Chaser Game W, Ayaka is in love with Hiroko, Call me by no Name and Even Though We're Adults. Chaser Game W even got a movie recently

>>288414541
KnM follows shoujo tropes and Souma was the nice guy. His role was to be cucked

>>288415210
They're without exception normalfag refugees from twitter and reddit. You can take the redditor out of reddit, but not reddit out of the redditor.

>>288414234
>which has a bisexual MC
It doesn't. The whole plot is that she doesn't love the guy at all and just goes along with what society telld her she should be feelong, because she has no context for what she is feeling for either, until she starts msking her own decisions. She is never bisexual.

>>288413068
>The Watanare movie screening was about 90% men and Watanare gets a lot of hate within the yuri fanbase
Incredible fanfiction

>>288415281
>Seinen manga
>Women
By the way Hoshitele, Futaribeya, Shimai Gohan and the fighting game autism getting anime next season also have live action

>>288415352
Himeko does like Souma romantically, she just slowly realizes she likes Chikan more which is why she chose her over Souma. Sounds to me like you speed watched the show.

>>288415548
*Chikane

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>>288415517
All those are subtext at best. I'm talking about real yuri with kisses, love confessions and even sex, About the seinen label, pic related is seinen too

>>288415548
>Himeko does like Souma romantically
The story beats you over the head with the fact she doesn't like him romantically. Chikane has to pressure her into going on the dates with him and every time Himeko keeps telling the viewer how she doesn't want to disappoint Chikane.
The ambiguity of her friendship feelings for Souma and her romantic feelings for Chikane beong confused by societal convention (expressed by Chikane in her insecurity) is the point.

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>>288415517
>subtext at best

>>288415548
Sounds like you lack media literacy.

>>288411488
no

>>288415548
>Himeko does like Souma romantically,
Have you tried actually watching/reading KnM?

>>288415652
That looks like it lead nowhere

>>288415725
They’re living together and kissing. What more do you want? Do you think that Shuukura isn’t yuri either?

Which one is the real bread?

>>288415210
I've seen a lot of ESL posts hating on Sendai.

>>288415742
This is the soeur thread, that is the oneeloli thread.

>>288415884
That doesn't answer my question.

>>288415907
Both

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https://x.com/melon_yuriyuri/status/2060288886992224312
What kind of gaze is this?

>>288415932
Gaylien gays.

I wonder how many Japanese "yuri fans" lost their shit today after being blasted with a lesbian marriage in anime for the first time in their lives.

>>288416137
Hm which ?
>>288415932
Kino

>>288415932
Alien gayse

>>288415932
Dear imouto, I need to talk to you later.

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>>288415932
Matataki gaze

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episode 8 is definitely one of the better episodes. the awkwardness is handled much better than before, and it nails the anxiety of graduating college and facing job hunting. ibuki finally opens up to botan, while botan gets confronted by chinklan. the backstory was nice too
the chinklan vs botan confrontation in the bar is one of my favorite scenes. her introspective monologue about how aware she is of how absurd and dangerous botan is, only to blame the alcohol for saying it out loud, was perfect

>>288413349
Sorry.
The ((yuri)) is a side-effect of not allowing men to sulling the waifus

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>>288416920
Then that's fine in my book

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I thought this manga was about aliens and foreheads

>>288416150
>Hm which ?
Kamiina Botan. One of the main characters is Taiwanese and via the ED it's shown that she has an older sister engaged with a western woman. Gay marriage is legal in Taiwan

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Yuri NTR

>>288414979
Smitten Aika is very cute.

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>>288414979

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>>288414979
Not-so-subtle hint-dropping queen.

>>288417041
Gayliens, anon. Also odeko is one off from omeko.

>>288417356
>>288417574
Riko is totally fucked (negative).

>>288416820
I haven't really enjoyed the show up until this point but actually yeah. This episode is pretty good. I like all of the insert songs. This lightly melancholic wistful mood feels like it finally hits the right tone for the show.

>>288414979
Chapters like this give me hope the author will actually go there and isn't going to be a timeskip gaylord like the others

>>288417257
if yuri authors wanna keep writing husband stealing, then they can also deal with dyke breaking.

>>288417710
I have no idea what you are trying to say

>>288417574
why does she want Riko to be arrested?

We've Been Reincarnated, There's No Way I'm Giving You My Mana Again! 11
https://mangadex.org/chapter/515172a9-7d10-4ef5-8397-019ce5f451e0

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>>288417741
She is already getting arrested by the FBI anyway, may as well enjoy the time they have left

>>288417242
Ehh, a quite a few yuri couples mention going overseas to Taiwan or something to get married, usually in oneshots but still
It is nice seeing an actual yuri marriage though

>>288417900
To be exact it's not yuri marriage but actually yuri engagement. We don't know if they're married yet. They should hurry because China will take Taiwan back pretty soon

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Kaguya wakes up to this every morning

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>>288417750
You mean the ＦＢー.

I'm going through some of the classics and I'm really enjoying Candy Boy. Still wondering why it's called Candy Boy though.

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What's the appeal of events like this? Do people really just go to stare at autographs?

>>288418327
Titlebait has a long and storied tradition.

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Rate this middle schoolers yuri tastes
https://x.com/i/status/2060323920159609168

>>288418401
It's fine. I just hope they finish school and go to college. It's very common for otakus to drop out from school because the bullying

>>288418401
>asumi-chan
Based

>>288418243
nmi lurks here

>>288418401
Distinct lack of WataTabe, AriSaku, and OneeSho. Also docking points for WataOshi.

>>288418401
>@suzume96830
Suzume is a chick name but sometimes boys get female names to trick demons.

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8 episodes in and Botan is still cucking Gujo...

Why are these threads so dead now?

>>288418799
there's two threads

Are there any TLanons in these threads? I know there's a TL thread on /u/, but I have no idea if GoggledAnon cares to translate things from a series he hasn't already decided to work on.

>>288418799
I'm sure it's a coincidence the image spam stopped at the same time some shitposters went missing, all of them, at the same exactly time, almost as if it was just one person doing it all that time.

>>288418799
/au/ is a slow thread.

>>288418839
There are precedents to people asking and getting a script. Just drop your raw there.

>>288418401
>No LN
Grim

>>288419130
>bothering with chapter books when you can just read a version that shows you what's actually happening
idgi

>>288419270
>chapter books

>he reads his yuri in word book form
You don't even get to see the girls like each other's feet, what's the point?

>>288419479
As a person who has been reading shuukura since before it got popular enough to get art.
Its very easy to picture things.

>>288415932
Zamn, subtext looks like this now?

A Blooming Complex ch9.2
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/a_blooming_complex_ch9_2

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>>288420057

Haru no Rejisuta 15.1
https://mangadex.org/chapter/32e9afc2-12a2-4727-8cc4-5c3335d827d7

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>>288420116
Haru is going to get stabbed one day

>>288417729
He's saying he's an insecure omega-male manchild.

>>288419118
I actually already had hours earlier, but it’s hard to know if he has any intention of TLing, obviously I didn’t want to rush him if he is, but I thought I’d ask here for future reference if he doesn’t.

>>288420433
Nuki is incapable of intelligent thought.

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What went wrong?

I just realized I wasted my time reading a yuri LN series that only translated half the novels. At the very least it wasn't that good, more of a MariMite ripoff without the same level of charm.

>>288420744
What deserves the bottom left spot?

>>288418799
I used to post art of girls kissing often, but faggot antis kept whining

>>288411569
>you know the vast majority of yuri is gooner material for guys right
Like most anime and manga and novel products?
So what?

>>288411569
You faggots sound exactly like sjws

>>288411569
Who gives a fuck who a work of fiction is supposedly for? You're allowed to like what you like

Fatale Game ch. 8
https://mangadex.org/chapter/5d015533-7a6f-4f50-a6e2-46d73a6e1821

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fish

>>288421729
I wish I could have seen the face of the editor of this work when the author said
>The premise is that mangaka will all fight because editor pussy is that good

That said, I remember some anons immediately calling out how she was just being paranoid and projecting on the competition, so I guess it was an obvious twist

Botan is way more melancholic than I thought it would be

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holy confession

>>288422064
Ibuki knows her time is running out before Mimi gets stolen by Ritsu, Anon (You), Aria or any other number of characters and so she steps it up.

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Love this artstyle.

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International Hug Your Cat Day (celebrated annually on May 30th) is dedicated to deepening the bond between humans and their feline companions.

>>288420314
You’ll have better luck asking the original team in the dynasty discord, or request in the u thread for it to be forwarded.

>>288420140
It's been too long, I don't remember all the characters. Is No. 14 crazy or something?

>>288422688
Rape

>>288420990
Because they are the same. All social media addicts are the same group and just mimicry whatever interest or politics they need.

>>288423126
She is the president's little sister, since they are from a powerful family the author is giving them this authoritarian gimmick.

>>288414541
Himeko was forced.

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>>288423309
I've noticed that too. They may take different sides of a line but behave in the same weird way.
But there are also those who endlessly shitpost. I wonder if they're like those people who cut themselves in order to feel something.
Bitches need to put on some sneakers and go for a run sometimes.

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qrd on picrel?
saw some jp accounts calling it mother-daughter yuri

>>288423800
Noses sharp enough to kill

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Yuri needs more angry tsundere lolis

>>288422654
Imagine the selfcest.

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It's obviously bait but one rebuttal I don't see brought up enough regarding the "male gaze" discussion is that it implies things for women are inherently more pure, not dirty like men, and in the process infantilizes women which wraps back around to misogyny. If a woman like Itou Hachi makes loli smut, it's okay because women are pure and untainted, but if a man does it, he's a pervert. It removes agency from women by pretending they can't also be massive perverts that like the same things.

>>288424251
"male gaze" discussing should never be about one idividual, it's about media as a whole and how we protray women, it's a system encouraging it and reducing fictional women to sex appeal

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I hope they do a timeskip at the end where they're now both OLs still trying to one up each other

>>288424301
Bold thing to claim when the same who are against male gazing in media openly support only fans.

>>288424251
Women are perverts too but in a different way from men. Men are more straight-forward about it and they're more disgusting too. Women seem harmless by comparison.
Though when it comes to asses, boobs etc lesbians definitely like the same. No lesbian would think less of artwork because it shows a pretty girl's ass. Unless she's trying to fit in a dumb group.

>>288424339
You're inventing people and making shit up.

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>>288424301
But you can't define what makes something "male gaze" or not. It's impossible. If you want to view media through the lens of the persistent objectification of women, you need to have a more focused critique than something nebulous like the "male gaze," which can't really be defined properly anymore. There's many examples of misogyny being promoted through media, but saying something appeals to men means absolutely nothing. It's a shallow critique for people that want to feel like they're better for not enjoying something; in other words, it's used (especially here and other yuri spaces) to virtue signal.

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>>288424251
Itou Hachi has faced misogyny

>>288424393
Sorry if all your based ultra feminists whore themselves on camera nowadays

>>288424340
its never "women hate sexy girls" it's "women hate women being reduced to noting but sexy"

>>288424399
Oh I agree with you, most call of "male gaze" is petty and uninteresting. You wont find a try at intelligent discussing the subject here.

>>288422967
I feel like that’ll just get me banned, since I’d be a new member, and some discord servers are really uptight. But maybe there’s nothing for it. Been long enough that it seems like GA isn’t interested.

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Rena-chan how could you!?!!

【Sad News】Hinako Note's author's account was suspended for selling too many erotic pictures of herself, lol.

Gazing on male or female is the main reason fiction gets young people interested, take it away and it will die like hollywood is dying.

>>288411569
I can't believe there's still losers in this world that touch themselves like that

>>288424511
Why are you posting this on the yuri thread?

>>288424505
Renako canonically gets off to this

>>288424399
>But you can't define what makes something "male gaze" or not. It's impossible.
I was playing a game the other day. A girl was betrayed by her mentor and had to kill her. It was a sad scene, she tried everything she could to talk her down but there was no other option. After running a knife through her mentor's chest, she's crying for a while and the camera cuts super low and lingers on a pantyshot. Completely took me out of the moment. That's what the term "male gaze" was originally coined to describe. When the director assumes you're bored watching women if they're not being sexy. Detach yourself from the gendered phrasing, how nutjobs even in these threads try to doublespeak "for men" into bad and "for women" into good. There can be tasteless 4th wall breaking sex appeal that confuses the intent of a work.

>>288424251
I don’t think you’ll find anyone here who thinks Itou Hachi isn’t a fucking degenerate. She gets a pass because her art is beautiful and she generally crafts pretty good stories around the loli smut

>>288424511
account of what? dont they have their own onlyfans in jp?

>>288424576
Skill issue, it's not the work problem you are a tranny who can't keep focused

>>288424576
miranda ass in mass effect 2 lol
Yes I enjoy has sexy butt, but not when shes sharing her sad backstory.

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Once fishe gets to penetrate Hinako, how will she integrate into society and help her pay the bills? Onlyfangirls? model? math teacher? Azami probably has an stable job somewhere and she's on vacations right now.

>If a woman isn't wearing a Hijab I can't focus on the scene

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>>288424576
Appealing to eroticism is not a thing exclusive to men. This is exactly what I'm saying: people act like women can't ever insert eroticism or fan service into their works without appealing to the "male gaze," implying they have no autonomy over their own sexuality and the way it's depicted in their works. Is tasteless fan service le bad? It depends on the context and if you enjoy it. Is it "male gaze?" No, it's not, and if you think that's something exclusive to men then you're just a misogynist repeating tired sexist rhetoric under the guise of feminism. There is nothing more inherently tasteful about the way women view and create media.

>>288424666
They can literally brainwash people and get whatever they want, realistically all the world elites are monstere pretending to be human

Roka won

>>288424692
>talking about camera and framing
>deflecting off topic about clothes
try to follow please

>>288424576
>camera cuts super low and lingers on a pantyshot.
Sounds awful, may I have the title so that I may avoid this disrespectful male gazing scene?

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>>288424709
It's not true! that's impossible!

>>288424730
>My censorship is betters than yours because I argued it in a different way

>>288412359
We have an island what do you have?

Roka will marry a boring office lady, divorce then come back together for the kids.

mixed media project shill has been oddly quite recently

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>>288424906
Missing him? what a fag!

>>288424906
Today was a big day for said project.
Sad if he was pretending to be a fan.

>>288424906
A lot of the scrap posting suddenly vanished together with some well know shitposters, what an incredible coincidence

>>288424704
I agree with you but this is basically the now antiquated and old-fashioned idea of gender quality where everyone chills out and stops trying to stick meaningless labels on people. And we must sadly acknowledge that this is no longer in vogue

>>288424993
Imagine unironically saying this about japanese culture which you are not part of, do you want me to post the many authors who have answered to those points with "fuck you westeners"?

>>288425095
Who is talking about Japanese culture? This is about "male gaze", which is yet another meaningless label that gets bandied about on this board more than anywhere.

>>288425221
Who is talking about japanese culture in the japanese culture board about the japanese animation in the thread about japanese depiction of women who are suspiciously close to each other?

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Inori is going to release a new vampire yuri novel

>>288425354
Slopnori is at it again

>>288425305
Nobody in the reply chain you're butting into, that's for sure. Maybe nips have their own discussions about this dumb idea, maybe they don't. It's not what's being discussed.

>>288425354
Will it have incest?

>>288425354
I miss Gunbured x Sisters.

>>288425354
I hope it doesn't have that weird, meta-ish sci fi shit that ruined the later volumes of ILTV.

>>288411569
Women actually get off to this stuff as well you know.

>>288411569
Yuri more often than not is 1,352 pages of fluff.

>>288425400
Anon, for someone who believes himself to have 300IQ you sure can't take a hint and realize what you are talking about is OFFTOPIC, this is the YURI thread, we talk about girls in love with each other here, go fucking rant about how women are portrayed somewhere else, if pantyshots make women or men in dresses cry it's their problem, it has NOTHING to do with this thread.

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>>288424251
>not objectifying women is infantilizing them
Women like sexy women too. They just don't want to be depicted as sex objects.

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DreamJumboGirl 44
https://mangadex.org/chapter/9325a730-1873-4dcc-996f-da4a70b453d9

I have to give credit to Hiroyuki, when the chapter started I was convinced he was going for the "it's about my friends" bullshit route and ignoring previous ways the character was portrayed, but no he pretty much went "it's because you are a dyke and you want to impress the girl you love".

>>288425565
It's about yuri, people are going to keep bringing it up, cry more.

>>288418401
>Kitanai kawaii
Based based.

>>288425620
ガチレズはちょっと...

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>>288425596
Please look at the female gaze manga in the right has, but PLEASE don't confuse this with gratuitous male gaze, it's totally different.

Also as always, comparing work about women having sex with barely ecchi romance work.

>>288425649
No, it's about you. The discussion you started has nothing to do with this thread. This thread is to discuss works about women in love with each other, not gender politics, you can post a hundred times in this thread about this bullshit and let me tell you something, you are NEVER going to be a woman.

>>288425620
How is Kana okay with this?

>>288425682
This is just normal tasteful nudity. If it was male gaze it would be zoomed in on her tits or pelvis for no reason. Male gaze is when it goes out of its way to sexualize the women.

>>288425783
>nudity
Did you also change the definition of nudity? Regardless there is zero reason for this page to exist other than give a boner to the male readers who buy the magazine. And there is nothing wrong with it.

>women would never go out of their way to sexualize women

>>288425758
I get the feeling Kana is not really in love with Chie but would date her if she could and would be fine with a harem situation

women are more sexually degenerate than men
we have known this for a long time
I assume the pure ones have been murdered alongwith all the men whenever their tribe was defeated in wars

>>288424502
Guess I had nothing to worry about, the dude was chill, I’m always afraid people won’t be when I start asking them something out of nowhere.

>>288425833
It exists so female readers can admire it but it's not overly sexualized. She's still partially covered up and the camera doesn't overly emphasize her body.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/a_ninja_and_an_assassin_under_one_roof_ch54

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/the_curious_cat_town_ch31

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/pairing_gear_ch01

Anons, please ignore this male gaze shitposting, they are clearly trying to derail the thread, here some releases for you to actually talk about.

>>288425953
>Half of the page is her body
>No emphasizes on it

>>288425596
The left is a porn manga meant to jerk off to, the entire point is the erotic elements; everything else is just fluff. Similar to Asumi-chan, except Asumi has more of a semblance of a plot. The right is a pretty average yuri manga that happens to have sex in it, which is tame in comparison because it's not a manga that's solely for eliciting arousal. This isn't even mentioning the core problem of this kind of argument: cherry picking. Anyone can provide examples of a male author being extremely tasteful with their nudity or sex (or having none at all!), for example, Moke's AdaShima adaptation, and vice versa with a female author, like the aforementioned author of Asumi-chan, Kuro Itsuki. But you're not interested in any actual arguments; you just want to posture and pretend like you're any better for liking non-"male gaze" manga.

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>>288425988
Most of her body is being shown at once. Men tend to fetishize specific body parts (e.g. tits, ass, midriff etc.) while women have a more holistic appreciation of women. When the shot excessively focuses on a specific part of a woman it's usually male gaze.

>>288426046
Uh huh her massive breasts taking 1/4 of the whole page and her unnecessarily being show undressing for sure got a lot of male readers appreciating it.

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I haven't seen many boys crying over female gaze yuri. Most of them come to like it, everyone likes cute fruity feelings. Don't be a fag and consume all you can.

>>288425997
The gender of the artist is irrelevant. Most people arguing in good faith can tell the difference between tasteful fanservice and gratuitous fanservice because the latter feels unnatural and disruptive to the visual flow of the story.

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>>288426046
Thanks for playing into the exact thing I already outlined before: the "if women have fan service/ecchi in their works it has to be an appeal to the male gaze and nothing else" argument that denies their agency. You are, ironically enough, the one treating women like an object.

>>288426147
>Says the anon who posted a work specifically about portraying a woman having sex with other women being compared to a romance work.
What is next, going to compare how male gaze porn movies are compared to disney movies?

>>288424251
The fact that "male gaze" is basically straight feminists dictating to lesbian and bisexual women what they are allowed to find sexy is in fact a very common criticism. Alongside how it others women's sexual desires.
Thats why you will never find a sane person using it and its exclusively the domain of authoritarian freaks.

>Anons can't tell the male gaze shitposter is just going to answer everything in bad faith while he pretends to be ignorant about it to bait more answers
Protip, every time you see the word male gaze, report.

>>288426254
99% of engagement with shitposting is boredom, not naivety.

>>288426201
Both manga have multiple sex scenes, but as even you can tell, one of them clearly caters more to a certain audience. You are just dancing around the term "male gaze" because it's a SJW term.
We all know there are things men enjoy more than women, and since there are more male readers than female readers, many works play into that.

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>>288425970
Kuro a shit, she doesn't deserve any of these compliments.

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I can't believe Nakatani Nio would pander to the male gaze.

>>288426308
Yes, men love women with massive breasts taking over a full page, there is zero difference between the two works except one has to make porn look interesting as it's the main focus.

>>288426410
This is actually female gaze.
>t. gaze specialist

>>288426410
Going by this infographic >>288425596 it's clearly female gaze

>>288426450
>serialized in a shounen magazine
It's definitely male gaze.

>>288426410
Why, her work literally has a male self insert, it's the most male pandering yuri ever made.

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Going back in time to make the kirara editor accept Sai's first Watatabe draft.

>>288426468
>shounen magazine therefore male gaze
That's not how it works.

>>288426367
She doesn't, but she is ot and cool and this what her wife cares about.

>>288426410
Well, YagaKimi is a shonen so that just makes sense.

>It's male gaze when I don't like the works

>>288426475
Going back in time to stop CGDCT anon from ruining Watatabe

Male gaze is a good thing unless you're unironically trans

>>288426494
>meant for a male audience
>intended for male readers
>not male gaze
Make it make sense.

>>288424767
Search your feelings, you know your wife is a tombstone.

>>288426254
>wahhh stop replying to posts I don't like, report them instead
Wow you never shut the fuck up

>>288426367
>if I can't lobotomize them I"ll just tie them up to a chair in a dark room and tell them about the time I took the ferry to morganville for a few bees while I had an onion on my belt on loop for 14 hours a day until they break
Momiji is far worse, almost Minato tier, and yet she is still considered a saintess for the standards of this manga.

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>>288426628

>>288426650
>Please allow me to offtopic with my tranny spergout
So far you have convinced zero people in this thread you are a woman

>>288418669
It's been great.

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>>288425354
Yay! I'm sure it's gonna be just fine

>>288425354
So he basically gave up on the japanese market?

>>288426475
When was this said?

>>288427989
Teren and Chigusa have a vampire series right now.

>>288428032
I am not talking about vampires you dumbass, but the fact he is directly publishing in germany.

>>288427995
I don't know if she made a pitch to Kirara, but her original draft was a pretty by the books kirara premise

You guy got it wrong. It's not male gaze or female gaze. It's MY gaze. Yuri is made for me and my enjoyment.

I Love You Because You Creep Me Out ch15
https://mangadex.org/chapter/f7514595-a155-43fd-bb05-59e804a1190a