what an incredible series from start to finish. i didn't enjoy the silliness with all the 7th division dudes too much but overall it was incredibly well made. a cultural marvel and all the education about the ainu was so fascinatingdid they... you know...?
>>288416382>i didn't enjoy the sillinessweak
>>288416467you can't convince me all the stuff with edogai wasn't fuckin retarded
>>288416509That you didn't enjoy it without any convincing is proof you aren't worth having on my side
>>288416667cool i'll be chilling with asirpa instead bitch boy
>>288416895>I'll be chilling with a drawingkay
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I read it last year and went in knowing nothing about it beforehand. Luckily at the time the manga was already finished so no waiting on chapters etc..Definitely in the top10 for me. I like stories like this where it slowly builds momentum and it's goal-centric with hijinks along the way.Reminded me a bit of SBR as well.
>>288417091i've heard a lot of good things about steel ball run but have never read/watched jojo's before and have never been too interested because of how flamboyantly silly it looks. would you still rec it?
>>288416382Of yeah, it really is an outstanding series. I found the ending to be a bit rushed, but overall it was a great adventure story.
>>288417109I think you need a bit of Jojo in you to get the most out of it and to learn to roll with the punches on some of its dumber writing choices. Noda will occasionally have a character act overly stupid or obstinate for a joke. Araki does that during serious storylines. Steel Ball Run is a very 'Jojo' Jojo part with a lot of the series's quirks turned up pretty high.
>>288417109There are some things that make a bit more sense if you read previous Jojo's but honestly it's pretty bizarre as it is so you'll not somehow "know" more, just recognize references and homages.I'd say you can easily read SBR without having read any of the previous ones.
>>288417112i thought the ending was really well done for what it was, honestly. i did find it strange how abrupt the time skip was but at the same time, i don't think having a filler chapter in between with sugimoto recovering or something would have been that great. a nice, touching moment between sugimoto and asirpa and then a fly by of how all the remaining characters end up is honestly all we needed. i'm glad it was a happy ending and i think he stuck the landing beautifully
>>288417091>>288416382Poor man's gintama imo It just wasn't super interesting nor was the drama as climactic as it could have beenIt feels like a very solid series without many flaws though which makes it easy to say it's one's "top 10" without being poked at
>>288417311>Poor mans gintamaWhos the madao then ?
>>288417331That's a good question I feel like there's many semi-madaosUshiyama and the escapist guy are lovably pathetic in their own ways I suppose, iirc
>>288417311>giving me a lot of Boss Baby vibes
>>288417311I respect gintamafags for their hustle. You're only second to hxhfags in gassing up your manga.
>>288417387I think there's quite a few similarities, wouldn't you agree?>>288417398What a roundabout little pussy post
>>288417342HmmmWhos the shogun ?
>>288417928That's golden kamuy's fatal flaw, no SHOGUN KAYOOOOOOO.
>>288417501Yeah, one's an anime, and the other's an anime
>>288417971That's good, for every one similarity you list, I'll list another one.2) they both feature the shinsengumi.Your turn for 3).
>>288417949It does have Katstura and Elizabeth Otoshin and Tsukushima fill that niche out7th division lacks parallels You would think shinsengumi but gorilla and Tsurumi are nothing alike
>>288418084I see.Yeah, I wouldn't be arguing that there are strong 1:1 individual character parallels for most of the cast or anything
>>288418106Both stories happen because of GaijinAliens for gintama and polish for KamuySadly kamuy didnt have a stinking yet cute beast for a mascot like sadaharu
>>288418152Hey you take that back about sadaharuYou smell like strawberry milkNow pay me rent you freeloader
>>288418152Also asirpa's wolf and the 3d bear could have become great mascots baka!! What was noda thinking by not making them recurring.
>>288418227Fuck off grandmaIm not paying rent till katherine stops shitting in my shoe>>288418246Wolf bro is too dignified and bear jobsIf shiraichi wasnt bald he couldve been a pet baboon
>>288418246it's grounded historical fiction not a saturday morning cartoon for 12 year olds
>>288418340>Grounded historical fictionYou telling me there were rogue samurais aura farming with katanas in one hand and lever rifles in the other running around japan ?
>>288418386>the most unbelievable thing in the manga is one extremely capable samurai wielding a lever action shotgun with his other hand hand which is very doable in real lifewow you're right this is just like one piece
>>288418502rifle* i was thinking of terminator 2 when i wrote shotgun lol
>>288416382>did theyYes, absolutely.
>>288417311Gintama sucks hairy asshole.
>>288419416Why so rude.
>>288418280Katherine would never do something like that, she's reformed now, you damn natural perm.>If shiraichi wasnt bald he couldve been a pet baboonhahaha
>>288418340I don't think you can say something is grounded just because only >>288418502 "doable things in real life" occurIn that case 50 shades of grey is grounded (in a good way, assuming you mean grounded as a compliment.)
>>288416382Have you seen Asirpa throughout the series? Even if they didn't, she will eventually tear that sisam naked and have her way with him
>>288416382> i didn't enjoy the silliness with all the 7th division dudes too much you are gay, now read what I disliked about GK:-manliest character gets an unfitting, gruesome dead at the hands of the biggest cuck: cuckishima, who gets to live unscathed, ushiyama's only sin and crime was being too fucking BASED-we don't see shiraishi use the gold for someone else's good, in wilk's words the gold should be handed to someone with a selfless goal in mind, that's why he "gives it" to hijikata and thematically sugimoto was a good fit too since he only wanted it to help her osananajimi-we don't see retar, chikapashi and everyone else in the epilogueand despite any flaws anyone could point out it's still a 10/10
>>288420113>we don't see retarwe do see the wolf children at least
>>288419934Grounded just means realistic and authentic. It's something rooted in both possibility and natural emotion and arcs. Having mascot characters, especially of a BEAR, would undermine that. It's already borderline that Retar follows/saves Asirpa like that.
>>288420536Yeah I was going to say that you literally have a wolf saving asirpa, having a mascot isn't really that crazy. I mean if you want to say "Realistic/authentic/rooted in possibility/natural emotion and arcs" then it's hard to justify all the gay fanservice imo. And I think it's kind of a disservice to treat "grounded=realistic" as a good thing by default, "authentic" sure, "grounded" too, but that's not quite the same thing as "realistic".>inb4 it's realistic that men go to a sauna and that happens irl are you retardedyes but it's about the presentation. this scene was clearly not trying to go "we are a realistic and authentic history manga and this scene was led up to by both natural high probability and natural emotion and arcs led up to this"And these humorous fanservice scenes are a constant thing throughout the series soI think it's a bit much to accept those and then say "a wolf mascot character? (when a wolf is already asirpa's buddy) how dare you"
>>288420113For me it's not a 10/10, but that's not because of flaws, I fundamentally disagree that flaws affect the score at all, well there are exceptions but in general the only thing that matters to me is just how good something gets, I don't think Golden Kamuy pushed past into mindbreaking levels of awesomeness for me, and iirc it was too stuck in all the circumstantial little details that weren't actually compelling (like which specific characters have to fight during an arc for the events to make sense or something? but that kind of thing doesn't really matter).Anyway this is a good thread with a good OP post so I'm going to shut up now, I've been annoyingly confrontational this whole thread (like 10 posts are by me) and this is a good time to stop.
>>288420566The manga is very much grounded and the silly shit like the sauna scene or Edogai don't take away from that. That's just the author writing funny scenes or eccentric characters for humor (and those characters are still very serious when they need to be). The story is serious, the settings are very real and authentic, the survival element is harsh, characters go through natural and emotional/mature arcs, and everything is extremely well researched. Having a cute bear or wolf following the gang around as a tool for comedic relief and cuteness factor is just so diametrically opposed to what the manga is trying to do. Ryu is the closest thing to that and he's just a normal dog who acts like a normal dog. He's not a tool for jokes or for kids or moefags to latch onto, he's just a dog.
>>288420683Yeah, between all of these (if they're all you)>not a saturday morning cartoon for 12 year olds>wow you're right this is just like one piece>characters go through natural and emotional/MATURE arcs>a tool for jokes or for kids or moefags to latch ontoI'm really getting a vibe of "muh manga being gritty and mature... makes it good".It's unfortunate, because there's a lot of good fiction out there, whether it's /a/ stuff or /lit/ stuff, that realizes that "maturity" and "seriousness" or "realism for the sake of realism" is nothing but a barrier and/or a crutch for many writers.In addition, your post is basically>the silly shit like the sauna scene or Edogai don't take away from that [because I said so]>Having a cute bear or wolf following the gang around as a tool for comedic relief and cuteness factor is just so diametrically opposed to what the manga is trying to do [because I said so]Besides, no one said he had to follow them around all the time, that's not necessary for a mascot character. He could just be around in the more comedic scenes.Being unable to swallow disbelief is a huge weakness as an enjoyer of fiction, and I hope you can improve on your weaknesses in the future.
>>288417236It was also fun to see some awkward Japanese reactions to the happy ending descriptions because it very much didn't go that well for the Ainu IRL.
>>288420683>Having a cute bear or wolf following the gang around as a tool for comedic relief and cuteness factor is just so diametrically opposed to what the manga is trying to doBesides, you're forgetting shit like the huge guy with a brick on his forehead who can barrel through walls, and the two master swordsmen who are (I presume to be) old as fuck and somehow are still top notch fighters.And also>the settings are very real and authentic>Hijikata was killed near the Ippongi Kanmon (一本木関門) by a bullet that shattered his lower back>Died June 20, 1869 (aged 34)At some point you have to admit that some fun fictional things are a part of fun fiction.
>>288420683>Having a cute bear or wolf following the gangOr how about having asirpa (what is she again 12? 14?) participating in serious fights and stuff, you have this cute loli with a bow caught up in this mess between war vets lol. If you can take that seriously then you can take a mascot character seriously.>He's not a tool for jokes or for kids or moefags to latch ontoNo one says a mascot character has to be that.>for comedic relief and cuteness factor No one says that has to be the only reason they're around.
>>288420683Anyway, I already said above >so I'm going to shut up nowin reply to someone else, and I think I've made my point clear, so unless you express some clear intent in wanting to continue this conversation in a productive direction (I'm not saying you haven't, I'm just saying that I'm leaning towards leaving this talk and doing something else with my time), I'm going to be silent now and let the fans of GK do their thing.
>>288420750Nta but you sound like such a little bitch. Adding the fact that you started posting just to hype up Gintama, it's a shame we can't beat your ass. Shut the fuck up if you feel lonely find another thread to shit up.
>>288420807Aight lil nigga you aren't impressing anyone, now quit crying about your little manga ya emasculated faggot
>>288420807>>288420683ok for everyone's sake and mine i'm gone for real now, thanks for the conversations and sorry for ruffling feathers.
>>288416382Based, i'm also loving the anim->i didn't enjoy the sillinessFuck you faggotAlso Tanigaki is the best character
>>288416382>bloody gory action adventure>homosexual>no sexualized femalesWhy isn't this popular in the West?
>>288422217Because tourists only watch shonen to complain about muh underaged hot girls
>>288422217>no sexualized femalesWell, there was the snake chick
>>288422243She's a fox
