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Volume 55
The Great War Begins
Chapter 522: We Died
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/274143504

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>>288447382
>Previous thread archives at 266 comments
>OP late as fuck today
Is the daily finally dying?
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>>288447407
So was Zabuza actually using a jutsu back when he was killing Gato's men?
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>Another ice ninja
Another?
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>>288447463
Did Pakura dip her bangs in caramel or something?
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>>288447510
>couldn't have done it with Deidara
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>>288447494
>now that I have Orochimaru's chakra
I really don't get this. Didn't he already inject himself with Orochimaru's DNA? How does Anko's curse mark help in giving him more of his chakra?
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B&W
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>>288447454
Shouldn't Haku's reanimation be disabled now like Sasori's?
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>>288447539
This is like the only instance of scorch release in the entire manga btw
I can't tell how it's any different from normal fire style
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Titfucking Tsunade.
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>>288447430
So were they gay?
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>>288447602
This is lame
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>>288447695
It's different in that it's not jobber flames
It already has more on screen kills than all fire style jutsu's combined
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>>288447715
You'd think Kakashi and Guy would take initiative before he casts the mist jutsu. No point in letting them take the lead.
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>>288447521
I'd legitimately forgotten about Sasuke's team.
When was the last time we even saw them?
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Done!
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>>288447830
Wow he can supress 8 no 10 edo's and their emorions.

But he just couldn't do that with Deidara nd Sasori...
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>>288447387
What's he thinking?
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>>288447435
I think it definitely gives evidence there's a lot of samefagging and not many people in these threads
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>>288447435
>half an hour
>late as fuck
You guys are really spoiled.
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>>288447416
Did Gai encountered some Yuki clan member offscreen?
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>>288447430
>>288447441
It's such a whiplash to see Naruto in the current artstyle while Zabuza is still same from part 1.
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>>288447463
>Kekkei genkai is just a glorified paper bomb
Is this shit even LinkedIn to Kaguya?
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>>288447521
These fucks are STILL at the 5KS?
The timeline doesn't add up.
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>>288447539
>SUCC
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>>288447576
Those kicks would've KILLED Haku if he wasn't already dead.
>>288447588
Oh hey, i sure hope nothing weird happens between that Iwa nin and Sakura.
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>>288447602
Uh, where is Raiga?
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>>288447602
It's months I don't visit these threads, how is it going?
Also thank you OP, noticed you're new.
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>>288447848
Thanks, OP!
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>>288447416
>>288447430
>>288447454
>>288447463
>>288447708
Haku should have been a girl with a crush on Zabuza, end of story. I don't care about muh grooming pedo allegations
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>>288447435
even poopsuke couldn't necrobump during 3rd world hours this time
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>>288447848
>>288447830
>>288447602
Arigatou, OP!
>>288448141
You think those don't exist already?
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>>288448127
Most people left because the story is worse than ever and schizo became more deranged.
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>>288448141
Kishimoto would rather die than let a female appear even remotely strong, competent, or selfless.
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>>288448223
Chiyo and Kaguya exist
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>>288447918
>Plural
It's one guy
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>>288448246
>Kaguya
joke character
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>>288447602
nice sword you got there bitch
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>>288447830
awesome spread. this fight deserved more attention.
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>Why don't the threads hit bump limit in 4 hours anymore when /a/ has 10k posts per day?
OPink, enough
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>>288447430
Tsundere Zabuza :3
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>>288448223
Perfectly balanced. A fantasy world with ninja wizards and supernatural beings needs a realistic side to remain believable. Kishi is a genius.
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>>288447658
Yeah I can't remember much of the war and was expecting that to happen right there, guess Kabuto strengthened his grip over their emotions just in time
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>>288448162
Gay groomers get more of a pass compared to straight ones
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>>288447482
>All kekkei genkai users, huh?
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>>288447482
>Lee trying to overcompensate after Haku made him question some things last chapter
It's too late, Lee.. It was too late the second you saw that smile.
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>>288448282
But she's strong.
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>>288448543
Since when?
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Haku's so cool.
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>>288447510
So he can't just mass suppress emotions for every single one of his puppets
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>>288447430
Why the fuck did Kishi make him so pretty?
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>>288448141
In japanese history, Koshōs were usually groomed by their master Samurai, and much like with ancient greece, this submission to your master was portrayed as a feminine trait (so the men in power could excuse their gayness) but overall necessary for one to acquire true manhood and mastery.
Making Haku female just takes that away.
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>>288447602
why wait until now to give zabuza his sword?
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>>288449031
Kabuto has a sense for theatrics
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>>288448246
Chiyo might be the only woman to ever be acceptable by Kishi and it's no wonder she is shown to be old. Her and that one leaf elder I suppose.
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>>288447614
The curse mark does have nature energy and we do know that one can run out or fill up on nature energy
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>>288448046
They were in prison
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>>288447695
It was better in the anime
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>>288449691
tsunade too.
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>>288448910
so it was probably gay?
y'know, i never thought it was before...
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>>288449764
When were they captured? I thought they handled the samurai jobbers last time we saw them.
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>>288448184
Well, kinda expected the first, the second is half surprising to me.
>>288448363
Ok, understandable.
>>288448624
Wonder why but I doubt that.
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>>288449861
nta but all I remember is them getting caught when trying to disguise themselves. Off-screened maybe? I forget
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>>288448141
>muh grooming pedo allegations
Sakon...
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>>288447918
Is it really that hard to post consistently?
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>>288447695
It turns whoever it hits into a basedjak
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Thank you to the daily kages for saving Naruto and always being on time.
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i guess the implication for the forest of death scene is possibly that gaara gets set off by the blood of the first guy he kills then wants to keep killing because of that.
but it might seem weird from kankuro's perspective since he doesn't bring up gaara's excitement around blood until the fighting segment of the test later. probably because the blood aversion wasn't written into gaara's character yet but it's written in a way that overall fits gaara's actions at least.
then later on gaara seems to keep trying to kill kimimaro by burying him but it's probably just due to kimimaro's abilities being too good. but i had a thought maybe it had to do with trying to avoid the sight of blood at that point because he didn't want to get set off and become bloodthirsty again.
then by part 2 the blood aversion doesn't seem to come up at all.
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>>288448680
Since forever? People are way more vigilant when a man goes after the opposite sex
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>>288447602
How did kabuto summon a sword?
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>>288450172
over hundreds of chapters it gets a little difficult
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>>288450141
I remember the Samurai seeing through their disguise, but i expected them to make quick work of those fodders.
This either implies that Suigetsu and Juugo jobbed to them before getting captured or that they have been fighting for days.
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>>288450511
What world are you living in?
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>>288447539
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Should we keep the distinction between regular and war arc versions or do we keep just one version?
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>>288450413
You're welcome, faggot.
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>>288451249
Could get cluttered with so many versions but personally don't mind
Also why is Sai only Jonin after he rocked Deidara and Sasori? Surely he should be High Jonin
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>>288451574
>Could get cluttered with so many versions but personally don't mind
I guess we will see. Maybe it will end up fine. There just some characters that do nothing prior to the war arc.
>Also why is Sai only Jonin after he rocked Deidara and Sasori? Surely he should be High Jonin
Sure...I just hope he doesn't disappoint later
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>war arc
>threads deader than usual
What killed the hype?
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>>288451992
war arc
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>>288447430
Awww he's embarrassed by his gay feelings
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>>288447387
ARIGATO, OUR LEADER!
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>>288447891
>I'm fucking freezing right now
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>>288447551
Fucking jobbers
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>>288447407
>>288447480
Nah that's straight aura bruh
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>>288447416
>that aura
Aura of the mist GODbuza.
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>>288448561
Kek
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>>288447482
>>288447588
I didn't notice Sakura used to wear shorts for her uniform early on. They were changed to regular pants later.
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Hiashi won.
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>>288447463
this all feels so cheesy. why does haku have to come back to find out zabuza always cherished him? nothing is allowed to be tragic and gritty anymore. pretty much the same with the retcons to gaara's backstory and that they even revived him at all.
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>>288451693
war arc kankuro is stronger than he was at the beginning of part 2 by virtue of stealing sasori's weapons. and muh secret black technique is better than your secret red technique. even if the presentation of kankuro getting stronger is retarded and it's not convincing at all that he's supposed to be stronger than sasori now. he did still technically, inarguably, get stronger since early part 2.
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>>288447416
>The Demon Zabuza!
I get that it's probably part of the joke, but it is annoying how Gai recognizes someone he never met before on sight, but kept forgetting the other Mist Swordsmen he kept fighting that looked like a fucking shark.
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>>288450271
Then can you tell me where?
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>>288453467
Zabuza is just that goated
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>>288447416
I just can't take the fight seriously when Guy and Lee can just open their gates and clean up Zabuza and Haku and then get healed by Sakura and other medics. Would have saved a lot of lifes.
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>>288447551
>NO! TAJIKI BLEW UP!
noooooo! not tajiki! i liked him! oh no!
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>>288453585
Do the gates work like that? Even if they get healed there's still probably downtime / downsides. Better to save it for a Madara level threat
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what would you rather have had over this war arc?
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>>288447454
>>288447441
>>288447430
Man, haku zabuza arc was absolute kino. Even reanimated against their will at the editor's bidding, they steal the show with a few panels and lines because they laid a good foundation, ironic considering the war arc and its excuses.
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>>288453500
We've already asked a million times, to no avail. He just doesn't want to show his proof.
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As Masked characters go, how the fuck is Haku so much cooler than tobi?
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>>288447416
>>288452447
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>>288447454
Actually very good line.
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>>288447454
What's with mist niggas wanting to be human?
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>>288447551
DIALOGUES
THEY'RE HARD TO WRITE!!!!!!!!
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>>288447576
So... this is WAR..... people DIE on the BATTLEFIELD of WAR...
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>>288449012
Do an Ino edit
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>>288454081
tobi is comic relief for a lot of it. white mask tobi is his only really cool design.
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>cool design, cool powers
but
>is too strong for the story, should have already won 10 times over
>the man behind the mask is....the first suspect which was revealed even before shippuden began!
>no agency of his own since his whole life has be puppeteered by a bigger bad guy
>cucks out Pain and Nagato from their own agencies turning them into his lapdogs
>kills konan >:(
>isn't all that interesting once you remove the mask
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>>288454477
>kills konan >:(
unforgivable
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>>288453635
Another anon previously mentioned having the villages actually fight each other instead of soulless Zetsu husks. Would have made it an actual war with real consequences, tactics, and could have tied in nicely with Naruto's new peace ideology. Right now the war is kind of weird with commando units behind enemy lines for example. What enemy though? What territory did this imaginary enemy hold? What benefit is the territory? They didn't even know Zetsu had a clone army. When the whole allied forces moved out running, where were they running? It just awkward without their being a tangible enemy army / village holding territory to fight.

Obito / Kabuto could have been a 3rd party making shit worse in the background and waiting to swoop in and take out whoever survives while they're weakened.
Naruto could have spearheaded the unification of the villages (or what's left of them) to fight off Obito and Kabuto's forces.
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There's a more intelligent way to deal with immortal, infinitely regenerating zombies than a straightforward assault surely.
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>>288452223
well at least someone is
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>>288454162
have you seen how many of them are fish? it must really bother them
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>>288447553
i's say they look bit scorched ahahahahahahahahaha
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>>288454947
I don't get it
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>>288451153
The first world?
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>>288454716
sasuke's attack on the 5 kage summit could've been used to help trigger the war too with several villages getting mad at the leaf.
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>>288448740
i guess if he he leaves emotions in from the start he has to consciously suppress them
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>>288453635
Maybe the War could have been the same but much smaller in scale.
>only Edo Tensei are Akatsuki, Madara, Jiraya, and maybe Jinchuriki (kind of pushing it)
>maybe the Leaf and Sand are the only ones fighting originally but eventually other villages join in
The amount of zombies Kabuto summons is far beyond ridiculous. With those numbers there's no reason why Kabuto shouldn't win, so they all have to be nerfed for the arc to work. Deidara and Sasori have to lose pretty pathetically. Shrink Kabuto's side, but increase the threat level. With immortality and infinite chakra, Deidara could wipe out a battlefield by himself, and Sasori has destroyed a whole nation already.
With only Leaf and Sand fighting at first that opens more chances for negotiation with the other villages. Could add a bit of depth to the plot.
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how much does naruto's setting help it? do you like the old feeling of the world and clothes? it feels odd to throw super computers into the mix. but what do you think about naruto's setting overall?
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>>288455119
Yeah I like that
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>>288454198
what do you say when someone you know blows up next to you, aside from cursing and screaming?
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>>288455089
Name a first world country where that's the case.
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>>288455256
When are you going to stop with this performative virtue signaling?
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>>288455426
america if you're rich
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>>288455465
>disliking scum is virtue signaling
Interesting
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>>288447602
I remember this is where I dropped the anime. Never finished it.
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>>288454543
Shut up, Konan!
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>>288455256
damn that sounds serious
you should link the posts, so we can send them to the cops
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>>288453635
Obito manages to obtain Shisui's sharingan and uses it to manipulate Konan into leading the Rain into the 4th great war. The Rain worshipped Pain, and he was killed by the Leaf. They could be lied to, believing the Leaf made an act of war when Jiraiya infuriated their village and tried to assassinate their leader. Pain only "retaliated" against the threat when he invaded the Leaf. Obito could have manipulated a real army, and maybe even tie some alliances with other villages through Konan and Shisui's eye. It really could have been a compelling plot device and give Danzo's assassination more weight.
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>>288456705
And to add to that, Kabuto could have commanded what was left of the Sound village. Even if they're groomed mercenaries, they could have stayed as a fighting power instead of totally dissolving.
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>>288448681
>>288447482
Remember when Hunter-Nin were a thing? And now Kabuto conveniently has access to all of the kekkei genkai ninjas
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>>288447830
so Edo Tensei
>doesn't cost chakra
>has no drawbacks
>lets the caster know exactly which targets are resisting or not
>lets the caster have vision/direct feedback of the battlefield too somehow
>lets the caster spawn more edo tensei wherever he fucking wants
oh okay so I guess Kabuto is already Pain tier or better
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>>288453585
Zabuza and Haku earned their reputation by holding the Land of Waves hostage with basic ninjutsu. They can gut Leaf ninjas like fodder.
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>>288455400
>so... THIS is war?
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>>288455167
Feels like it's all style and no substance. There's a lot of cool designs like the Amegakure or Konoha's weird mix of old Japan and modern tech, but I can't take it seriously when there's vehicles, computers, and TV's, and it's still more efficient to mobilize across entire countries by foot. The Sand having to communicate by bird when there's telecommunications is awkward but I could believe that at least since they're a poor village.
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>>288455119
I don't have confidence in Kishimoto writing a war arc in a shonen series. That would require Naruto recruiting Date, Mizuki Orochimaru and others. Kishimoto's problem is that he wants an adventure series isolated
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Dead shitty daily
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>>288457714
See you tomorrow!
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>>288457591
I think Mizuki would ally with the Leaf. The Naruto bridge connects the mist with the leaf politically, and Naruto aided in stopping Gato. Not to mention Naruto is also the hero of the Leaf at this point so now he's a major influence in his own village. The Sand would naturally ally with the Leaf as well.
The stone would war against them as they have bad blood with the sand. The cloud would go against the leaf for protecting their rogue ninja. And the rain would go against the leaf and their Jinchuriki over justice for Pain. Kishi had unintentionally written potential for a legitimate 4th war but here we are with 100 thousand Zetsus.
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>>288457591
>>288457912
My bad I thought you meant mizukage
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>>288457912
this actually sounds good. shit...
>accidentally wrote potential for a war
agreed.
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>>288455466
The same applies if you're straight, even more so.
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>>288456061
>disliking scum
Do you know the specific part of this cesspit of a website you are?
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>>288456816
Who reported the case?
You doxxed him?
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>>288447602
LOOK AT THE NOSE ON THAT NIGGA
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>>288447602
Why do 2 pairs share the exact same outfit
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>>288450500
My head canon is either blood stirs up shukaku or blood gives him PTSD from when Yashamaru tried to kill him. Then after bonding with Naruto he's at peace with his trauma. You also see how Guy caring for Lee really messed with his head, too. It really sent him off the rails.
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>>288458334
it could also be multiple factors at play. it could be both ptsd and shukaku messing with him. i think he mentions shukaku wanting blood at times.
after fighting naruto though, he tries not to entertain the ptsd/shukaku.
it doesn't necessarily mean he completely stopped feeling those things though.
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>>288458334
or it could be something like ptsd causing him to get unstable which indirectly stirs shukaku.
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>>288458515
It doesn't. The burial strategy against Kimi is a nice catch. It would make sense for him to use less gorey methods of killing.
I just use it as an easy explanation for him being suddenly purified. Even weirder is how we never see him interact with shukaku after the chunin exams.
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>>288458082
Retard
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I'm amazed how Naruto attracts such disgusting people.
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>>288458634
>Even weirder is how we never see him interact with shukaku after the chunin exams.
could be taken as him trying to ignore shukaku. him going out of his way to never use shukaku again or even talk to him/listen to him would make sense with how he wanted to be accepted as something besides a weapon.
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>>288458634
>I just use it as an easy explanation for him being suddenly purified.
your interpretation is just as valid as mine. it's not explicitly stated what happened to gaara's blood aversion. so any interpretation that doesn't wildly contradict the canon can kinda fit.
after fighting naruto, he doesn't act crazy anymore. you can absolutely take it as him being more at peace.
but i do want to mention he says something about being in pain to kankuro as a reason why he wants to be kazekage. but i take that as him still having the heartache or something. he needs acceptance just to feel normal. i don't know if it includes things like ptsd in general.
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>>288458646
That's actually a sensible question.
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>>288454081
Haku is cool and doesn't overstay his welcome.
Tobi is just a failed character in literally every way.
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>>288456705
>how to fix Naruto?
>more eyehax mind control with the eyes of some random irrelevant uchiha
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>>288455167
It's a nice aesthetic and the aesthetics are the most important thing to Naruto because nothing in it has substance.
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naruto has a lot of cool designs but i might like kakashi and gaara's first design most.
to me they look the most like actual ninja (gaara being the best representation of a desert ninja) while also keeping an exaggerated anime feel that looks unique.
and you know kakashi's design must be great if other series keep trying to make their own version of it.
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>>288447510
This absolutely reeks of retcon, like the editor said, "we cant have the final climactic war of Naruto end with them all getting emotional closure and ascending to heaven one at a time"
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>>288459931
I can definitely imagine that, but Kishi is the retard for wanting to bring back every fucking character and give them some kind of generic closure that becomes tedious before even getting started.
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>>288459966
but muh "ending the cycle of hate". they all need to get over their hatred and get emotional closure.
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>>288460002
That's exactly the issue. Once Kishi had this idea with the "cycle of hate", every villain and their interaction with Naruto became the exact same, predictable shit.
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>>288460035
kinda, yep.
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>>288448910
>Making Haku female just takes that away
Good riddance. We needed less of japs repressed autistic gay bullshit, not more.
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>>288448141
I think making Haku a guy who looks like a girl is better because it means your brain will register him as a girl for just a moment before you correct it, and it makes you question their relationship.
If Haku was a girl or a guy who looked like a guy, then it would be a lot more obvious.
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>>288454050
These are the closest things to """proof""":
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/288056254/#288064970_1
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/288056254/#288065112_1
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/288056254/#288065311_1
As you can see, it's just a hallucination, probably born out of projection.
You're welcome to prove me wrong by posting actual evidence, by the way.
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>>288447891
>how can mirrors be real if our eyes aren't real?
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>>288452447
>>288454124
kishi approved
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>>288453585
>and then get healed by Sakura and other medics
That's the difficult part.
Consider how long the war wasw, and now consider how long Duy would have to rest after opening the gates.
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>>288447708
Having a nubile boy as concubine is an age old tradition in greece, rome and japan.
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>>288447454
>snow tear
cheesy, but slightly kino
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>>288447454
>revive character so you can tell-not show the thing you already show-not-told in the first arc with the same cahracter
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>>288457468
A warning to the people
The good and the evil
This is war
To the soldier, the civilian
The martyr, the victim
This is war
It's the moment of truth, and the moment to lie
The moment to live and the moment to die
The moment to fight, the moment to fight
To fight, to fight, to fight
To the right, to the left
We will fight to the death
To the edge of the earth
It's a brave new world
From the last to the first
To the right, to the left
We will fight to the death
To the edge of the earth
It's a brave new world
It's a brave new world
A warning to the prophet
The liar, the honest
This is war
To the leader, the pariah
The victor, the messiah
This is war
It's the moment of truth, and the moment to lie
The moment to live and the moment to die
The moment to fight, the moment to fight
To fight, to fight, to fight
To the right, to the left
We will fight to the death
To the edge of the earth
It's a brave new world
From the last to the first
To the right, to the left
We will fight to the death
To the edge of the earth
It's a brave new world
It's a brave new world
It's a brave new world
I do believe in the light
Raise your hands into the sky
The fight is done, the war is won
Lift your hands toward the sun
Toward the sun (It's the moment of truth and the moment to lie)
Toward the sun (It's the moment of truth and the moment to lie)
Toward the sun (It's the moment to fight, the moment to fight)
The war is won
To the right, to the left
We will fight to the death
To the edge of the earth
It's a brave new world
From the last to the first
To the right, to the left
We will fight to the death
To the edge of the earth
It's a brave new world
It's a brave new world
It's a brave new world
A brave new world
The war is won
The war is won
A brave new world
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>>288447588
>I understand the enemy's strategy and plan!
Do you, Kakashi? Do you now? Man, what a shitty way to write dialogue. He only says that so Kabuto could do his "nyehehehe, i have another trick up my sleeve" villain act.
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>>288447407
>>288447416
stink cloud
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>>288448910
>>288448223
>>288448498
>>288448543
>>288462273
>Women are...le bad? Oh my GOD bros, we MUST suck each other's dicks and groom those little boys, it's only manly and proper!
Why was antiquity like this.
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This is the part where the manga really becomes bad. Having dead characters walk around like that was a bad idea. This chapter is a good example of why the war sucks : too many paper thin characters to make the ninja world look bigger, cheap member-berries moments to pad out the chapters, action is dry and devoid of choreography, and it just feels tacky.
There's too much talking in a setting where it should be mostly fighting.

>>288460002
did Kishi change editors? These are the kind of mistakes a good editor should warn him against. Like did no one in all those year sit him down and tell him: you know that this cycle of hatred idea is a shallow and narrow-minded way of explaining conflict? what about economic exploitation, religious dogma, power struggles, fear of change, opposite values, ethnic struggles? None of those matter, the source of all suffering is the "Eye for an eye" mindset, and we solve it by having the last guy in the chain accept it with a smile. It doesn't even help that the bad guy's plan is just as goofy. Let's plug everybody in the Matrix and we'll be happy forever. People may shit of Gege for ending Modulo with such a cop-out, but the way he set up the conflict is light years ahead of Kishi in terms of writing.
Naruto had the opportunity to grow up at the end of the Pain arc, but instead if slowly devolved into a Disney version of what it was at that peak.
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keep bumping OPink
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>>288462938
Kabuto took Papyrus' DNA as well?
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>>288447576
>COMRADES WILL DIE ON THE BATTLEFIELD!!!
>like 3 people that relate to any main characters die
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>>288465756
>3 people
Who besides Neji?
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>>288448223
>>288448498
>>288449691
You people would continue peddling this bullshit forever because of what, Hinata jobbing to Pain quicker than other leafcels, Sakura making her shitty fake confession out of worry for Naruto and Konan not getting to defeat the main villain?
>let a female appear even remotely strong, competent, or selfless
They do so at multiple points in the series.
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>>288466334
This, Kishimoto is just shit at writing characters in general, not just women.
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>>288464914
>did Kishi change editors?
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>>288465849
Shika's dad and Ino's dad
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Chapter 523: The Legendary Seven Swordsmen of the Mist!!
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>>288466657
>the legendary job squad
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>>288466537
I think some random Kumo ninja died too. Also
>the entire war from start to finish including all the shenanigans with Kaguya took 2 days
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>>288466334
When people say Kishimoto hates women, it's not because his writing of male characters is spetacular but because he clearly puts more effort into them than into the women, which is fair, this is a boys comic book after all.
But then he puts those females in positions where we expect more of them only to either do nothing with them or humiliate them.
Kishimoto would never write a female Itachi or female Sasuke, his only female main villain was a retarded zombie that needed to be guided by the actual male master mind.
He also would never write a male be as much of a detriment to a fight as Sakura was in 5KS.
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>>288466657
Raigabros...
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>>288466775
All of the women in the manga could not even be shinobi and it would minimally impact the plot. If they were just all civilians not much would change.
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>>288466674
Literally what do they intend to accomplish here?
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this manga is really not designed for mass combat scenarios and it shows
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>>288466823
>Indirect InoShikaCho wank
AAAAAAAA MAKE IT STOP
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>>288466797
Retconning how jutsus work to create a retarded plan.
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>>288466833
>Kiba sword
>Kiba doesn't fight its holder
HACKmoto...
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B&W
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>>288466893
this would only be useful in battle if the other blades break all the time. otherwise it's mildly convenient.
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Why so many pages wasted on Suigetsu?
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>>288466929
>'MEMBER PART WAN!?!?!?
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>>288466657
OP lookin ahh
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>>288464914
Zabuza is essential to the plot because he can expose the Fourth Mizukage as Obito and crush moral. This is why Sharigan users fear him. He doesn't have any family attachments and his basic jutsu counter the Sharigan and it's upgrade. Obito is too bad with money to pay him hush money and Zabuza doesn't have the affable behavior Kisame to make him a henchmen. Raiga even has a daughter to carry out his wishes. There's nothing wrong with the revenge

Dragonball holds up cause Goku wanted revenge on Tao Pai Pai, Piccolo, and Freiza for hurting his ally. Naruto doesn't really have that adult mindset or capacity in him to like Sasuke enough to give him a eulogy. Orochimaru is the only one capable of having attachments
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>>288466929
>Kishimoto tracing himself
kek
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Done!
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>>288466960
Mist ninjas are the only characters keeping the war afloat by being normal people going up against army of fodder.
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>>288467221
Cheers for dump
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>>288467190
>>288466929
Why is Kabuto acting like the Mist jutsu is uniquely Zabuza's? I mean, is it?

I guess I've never even considered that possiblity since their whole fucking village is basically named after it. But apparently only one guy could do it?
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>>288466711
Kabuto has been busy collecting swords alongside all the DNA he needed it seems
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>>288466797
Kinda nice plan. The diagram was needed for once, unlike the fucking Naruto vs Kiba one. For some reason people will whine because it's the war arc though.
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>>288466797
Couldn't they just walk together and communicate? Why the mind swap?
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>>288467349
Zabuza can provide a smokescreen that makes it easy to trap fodder ninjas who aren't the main character and even Sasuke who is too schizo to reason with
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>>288466363
yahagi was too good for kishimoto...
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>>288466960
He's providing exposition for the seven swordsmen.
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>>288467396
Shadow possession never worked like that. Mind transfer keeping the sensory abilities also seems kinda weird, since you'd think those are based on the body. And the whole plan is needlessly convoluted because >>288467419
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>>288467190
>>288466929
>>288467221
Arigatou, OP!
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>>288466936
all i really find myself wondering is why we never got a 7 swordsmen arc instead of just shoving them in the end as zombies with rushed encounters.
kishimoto writes cool worldbuilding and then does nothing with it. it's a running theme.
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>>288467419
>Couldn't they just walk together and communicate?
It would give away their position and element of surprise I assume
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>>288467444
>Shadow possession never worked like that
How? Assuming he has enough shadow length, of course, I don't think it's a stretch, especially in a manga with such ill defined powers as Naruto. Substitution jutsu, anyone?

>Mind transfer keeping the sensory abilities also seems kinda weird
Meh. Could be one way or the other and I'd accept it either way, I don't think you have an actual "chakra sensing organ".

>And the whole plan is needlessly convoluted because >>288467419
Maybe to keep these other guys protected at the back? Maybe shadow guy would get picked off if he was near Kakashi when trying to capture Zabuza? Honestly this is nitpicking, the plan is fine, this isn't a very exciting or great chapter but it definitely feels like a "nitpick for the sake of nitpicking" situation.
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>>288467444
Shikamaru is different because he's not a paranoid crank who can trap people. The one time he does it's because his mentor is dead.
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>>288467498
>It would give away their position and element of surprise I assume
And the fucking Raikiri doesn't?
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So, what you guys gonna do for the summer?
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>>288467552
Of course not. It's the ultimate assassination move!
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>>288466822
There's many problems with that : inconsistent power scaling and the way the manga is choreographed. Kishi likes doing tacticool stuff, even when it's a bit heavy handed like here >>288466797. He's also good at drawing hand to hand combat. Ninja fights are interesting when characters analyse each other's strengths and weaknesses and find creative solutions. Chapters like this one where "legendary" ninja smurf the kunai throwing noobs highlight a big weakness of this setting. We just don't know how strong or weak the average guy ninja is. The setting never even hints at chakra enhancing physical durability like Nen or Cursed Energy.
I'm not sure what was going on at this point of the manga behind the scenes, but the paneling also got lazy.
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>>288467604
>SKREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECHICHICHICHCIHCICHI
>What was that noise? Probably nothing.
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>>288467512
>How?
What the jutsu is supposed to do is that if you connect it to someone they can't move of their own volition and are forced to copy your movements. Sure powers are poorly defined, but this jutsu is already overpowered and now does something completely different, which wouldn't even have been necessary. I wasn't really trying to nitpick, it just instantly jumps out at you because it's overly complicated and retcons what the jutsu do.
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>>288467630
>but the paneling also got lazy.
heavily agree. the art in general got worse and the characters look scuffed.
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>>288467595
Might do an marathon of the Storm Entries with most of the voiced tracks from the anime in the background. Currently in the Naruto mood for a while again.
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>>288467630
The ninja got shaped by Tsunade and Shizune. Unc Senju is too busy wondering why ninjas aren't getting in there and cutting the mist ninjas.
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>>288466893
Kind of a crap ability compared to the other swords. You might as well just keep multiple swords in a scroll or something.
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>>288467757
i was unironironically considering checking them out.
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>>288466882
Did we really a page of introduction for each of these literal who characters that will never be relevant after like 2 or 3 chapters.
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>>288466860
shaw
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>>288467803
Grab them during a sale, they do a fine job at adapting the manga scenes while adding a decent amount of side materials for the not-main characters. Skip Connections as it is just a shittier compilation of the earlier entries with an lower bar for Quality Control in terms of presentation.
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>>288467803
Well, there's a trilogy pack that has the first 3 storm games and a 4-1 that includes 4. Generations and Revolution haven't gotten a port yet so you'll have either emulate or hope you still got a ps3 lying around.
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>>288467656
It's true it doesn't fit the usual Shikamaru possession but it's not too far off either, basically this is just "keep your shadow on mine and detach it to catch the other guy when I land my punch on him", it could be a looser shadow handle or whatever. I don't think it's a crazy reach that this would be a thing.
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the kancho probably exists in the naruto universe separate from the thousand years of death jutsu.
when naruto uses it on gaara, gamakichi says "kancho?..."
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>>288467864
>>288467867
i will. thanks!
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>>288466657
kuri'arare kushimaru is a kino design. always loved that dude + the sword
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>>288467927
Shikamaru is the amateur of the Nara Clan. The manga is more consistent he's too lazy to concentrate and can get a harem of Kin, Temari, and flute chick if he stops being a loser
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Kishimoto lied to us... Suigetsu was going to be more powerful and we where promised a buster blader fight of epic scales... where is it? Kishimoto lied, instead of doing it he just did sharingan wanking. I am so sad and heart broken, he was my favorite mangaka.
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>>288467927
I think it's the manga that's inconsistent because the pace went from easy going to rushing. Now the villains have the time to goof off and the heroes are using desperation tactics
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>>288465756
>>288466537
>>288466735
Madara should have directly killed named characters. I would have Madara knee slam Akamaru's neck to kill it instantly. Then he would use the Deva Path to pull in Kiba. He would use Kiba as an edo tensei sacrifice to bring back Rin and fuck with Obito
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>>288466870
this sword is retarded, if not for the Might Dai flashback I would've assumed this guy killed himself on accident with it.
>>288466711
It would've been a hilarious development if Samehada and Chojuro's got summoned to Kisame's master+Mangetsu here.
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>>288468073
yes also the editor change. Yahagi edited the manga for ten years, and after that the manga had like 3 different editors for the other 5.
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>>288468075
>He would use Kiba as an edo tensei sacrifice to bring back Rin and fuck her in front of Obito
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>>288468073
>the pace went from easy going to rushing
Isn't it the exact opposite of what people normally say? That the war is slow? And I'd actually agree, the war takes a bit more time to have things kind of happen onscreen rather than off. These small skirmishes are pretty fast and you wouldn't expect fucking Deidara and Sasori to be discarded in two chapters based on their narrative importance, but generally speaking the war actually shows fights.
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>>288468075
Or you could have him kill Kiba and use Akamaru as the Edo sacrifice. Lots of horrific stuff could have happened in this arc but instead the bulk of it is nothing ever happens tier
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>>288468075
I am against this because the world of Naruto is only a century with no organization to pull off the war. Kishimoto can't decide if he wants to go the Ruroini Kenshin route or Togashi route.
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>>288468213
*edo sacrifice to bring back kiba, not that rin stuff
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>>288468235
Madara hates Tobirama too much to use his jutsu and mock it
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>>288468213
>>288468235
I don't think Edo Tensei would work with animal sacrifices. At least not to bring back people
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>>288447463
>Pakura
another Suna dime
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>>288468269
It would work if the target was an animal.
Animal for animal, human for human.
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>>288468075
Why are you obsessed with Kiba dying in this way specifically?
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>>288468493
It's visceral and humiliating. Dying while fighting against an enemy is one thing. Dying as a named character by being used as a sacrifice for a weak character for the sole purpose of psychological warfare is another
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>>288467830
Maybe the better question is why the fuck we get a chapter of exposition of this from Suigetsu instead of him getting to meet his brother or something.
That might at least give some value to this. some depth to Suigetsu maybe?
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>>288468641
Why would he pick Kiba for this?
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>>288468805
He gets to kill the dog as a bonus
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>>288468881
There are other inuzuka
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>>288469008
But they're not a part of the K11
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Them after the war arc... why did anons used to post this image so much on /a/???
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>>288467119
No offence but what the fuck are you even talking about?
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>>288466791
>Raigabros...
a-at least he was in one single panel...
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>>288466797
...Or you could launch your Raikiri Wolf at him from like a hundred feet away. What happened to that jutsu?
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>>288469046
Why would Madara care about Naruto's friends? That's seems more like an Obito thing to kill anyone to specifically fuck with Naruto.
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>>288466893
just goes to show, Zabuza's sword cannot be beat
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>>288466683
suigetsu never gets to fulfill his dream, does he
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>>288466833
>blade infused with lightning
>>288466847
>axe and hammer
>>288466860
>a really big and long needle
>>288466870
>just a bunch of explosive papers glued on a stick
>>288466893
there's no way the iron in human blood is enough to regenerate that huge ass sword

Overall these "swords" are unimpressive af, only Zabuza's sword has a slightly bullshit ability but also mostly useless. Being in the same group as these things is an insult to Samehada.
Kishi didn't even try, the only way to make these swords somewhat "legendary" is if they were designed for part 1.
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>>288466870
>his "sword" is a giant post-it note dispenser with explosive tags slapped on it
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>>288467487
For the hundred plus chapters of slop we are about to recieve, I would have rather each swordsman gets at least a couple chapters and a chance to really show off their weapon and maybe even *gasp* injure or kill someone with a fucking name so the stakes at least feel high. Not for them to each get one page to aura farm and slice up nobodies before instantly jobbing
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>>288467630
You're describing Bleach
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>>288466860
Is this a Hollow Knight reference?
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>>288466870
>>288466882
how come edo tensei recreates their bodies, clothings and accessories perfectly but not their swords? seems a little arbitrary.
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Yea i believe it now i believe that on the night that kishimoto was leaving the office after a long work day only to be called up to the main office and greeted by the executives and ceo with some paperwork and a pen to sign some notes and a hooker with big tits holding a liquor bottle on one hand and a tray with a pile if coke and three lines to snort on the other ñ.
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>>288470026
Not sure I'm impressed with spending this much money on a shit looking ad.
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>>288468939
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>>288469821
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>>288470026
What's that paused video with Hinata ?
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>>288470026
You gotta get over this, dude. Boruto isn't going away. Sorry that it's real and your weird fanfic isn't.

>inb4 "Huh?", "Who?", or "What the fuck are you talking about?"
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>>288470207
What i feel for you part 23
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>>288470218
>your weird fanfic isn't.

Come again ?
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>>288447463
So was Pakura having fat tits an anime-only thing
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>>288466363
And he still couldn't advice him to not humiliate his characters or to give his females a W once in a while.
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>>288447602
I wish the Seven Swordsmen were cooler than they were. Hidden Mist seemed interesting in general but everything about them gets resolved off page since it doesn't really concern Naruto
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>>288466363
I love that last line, it feels very personal. I can picture Yahagi being like "how do you not have a name for his main attack? Just call it Kage Bunshin and be done with it" while Kishi is trying to make everyone a furry
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>>288469774
tbf the swords are designed for characters we will se fight for two chapters
Maybe if they were a much bigger deal in this war like the former kage then they could have had more interesting designs
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>>288466893
Goddamn those are some nice thighs (i choose to believe the one lying down is a woman).
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>>288466882
wasn't suigetsu called that too?
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>>288466929
Nostalgia baiting in a war arc? Based hack writer
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>>288467221
Thanks sakon
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as a first reader, it seems you guise were not joking around, this is kinda doo doo
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>>288470298
Pretending that Sakura was cool and badass for the entire Kazekage rescue arc has already taken a toll on Kishimoto, please understand
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>>288470803
>as a first reader
/doubt
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>>288470821
Zabuza ASSASSINATED the hype
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>>288470026
Cutenata proud of her son
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>>288470370
Anon...
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>>288470956
I'll be real with you desu, this daily has never been hype. Only time it has activity is when there's drama unrelated to the story.
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>>288466893
>Billions (of Zetsu clones) Must Die
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>>288471006
It was pretty calm in the first 10 days post hack
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>>288471048
Yeah, but still 0 hype
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>>288470821
Naruto lacks focus during the war arc which should be a slow moving drama that wears him down as the toll and the cost proves too much.
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>>288466667
that's just shikimaru with a cut on his head
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>>288466814
at least on crit
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>>288447521
>>288447772
>>288448046
Fucking hell finally I worked myself in a minor mandela mindfuck because I obviously remembered this bit them 2 breaking out but I thought it was like right after the Kage summit and since it's only NOW Kishi shows us i was seriously confused

And ofc it's leading up to perhaps the most convenient bullshit moment ever when they're in the random hallway, Jugo punches and misses breaking a hole in the wall and they find the ancient stone tablet or whatever
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>>288471289
I think you're just retarded. No offense.
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>>288466711
half of those are axes
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>>288471289
>they're in the random hallway, Jugo punches and misses breaking a hole in the wall and they find the ancient stone tablet or whatever
I can't remember anything like this happening. I think anything to do with Taka is just so boring and uncared for it just doesn't register in people's memories.
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>>288466657
ARIGATO, OUR LEADER!
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>>288467221
thanks, OP!
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If Sasuke just disappears right now, never to be seen again, it would be as if a grain of sand had moved on a beach. Nothing would change.
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Im board post your top 5 ships.
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>>288472118
But then who would help Naruto undo the Infinite Tsukuyomi, help against Kaguya's dimension warping and impregnate Sakura?
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>>288466657
OH NO NOT THE LEGENDARY SWORDSMEN... WHOSE WEAPONS ARE NOT EVEN SWORDS THATS A FUCKING AXE >>288466711
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>>288472525
I liked narutoxino
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>>288472525
For me, it's Hinara
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>>288447382
https://youtu.be/ta48lV6pnok?si=9IOyq49eZEubGslx
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>>288451107
One of those samurai wasn't fodder and Suigetsu and Jugo were weakened due to the Raikage fight. Especially Jugo.
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>>288472822
Why is she crying
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>>288466847
>>288466860
>>288466870
>>288466882
>>288466833
These blades are not equal at all
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>>288472917
They all suck versus "I am somehow alive, can think and drain/transfer chakra" Samehada is bullshit enough on its own

I guess its kinda like how the 9 tailed Fox mogs the fuck out of the other 8 Kishi likes having a group of things in a set but one is just blatantly superior
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>>288472916
Thinking about the Nine Tails attack and how the Uchiha were unjustly penalised and discriminated against as a result of said attack.
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>>288472525
All ships are cringe.
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>>288472118
His help in getting rid of edo tensei doesn't seem like much since the problem corpses were sealed and Madara still stuck around
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>>288466657
In my fanfiction the majority of them perish to the three tails instead of guy.
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>>288466683
Suigetsu deserved better, he was a favorite character of mine. Should've been better written. Could've had more of a relationship with Sasuke. Like a sort of water Naruto.
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>>288469579
Eh, we have never seen a fight with this many high caliber ninja going at it. Kakashi needs to reserve his stamina.
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>>288472525
naruhina
sasunaru
narusaku
sasuhaku
narutsun (for jacking off)
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>>288466882
Correct me if im wrong but wasn't suigetsu some sort of Oro experiment? Why is his brother also liquid?
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>>288472525
Hinata X Rock Lee
Teuchi X Tsunade (as a joke)
SasuHina (guilty pleasure)
SakuHina (as a homolust rivalry ship)
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>>288473275
That was never confirmed
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>>288473348
I guess i also warmed up to Suikarin as well.
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>>288472525
Naruto tsunade
Naruto sakura
Naruto ino
Naruto sasuke
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>>288473204
SasuHaku?
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>>288473096
What would you change about his role in the story?
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>>288473072
Why the 3 tails?
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>>288473480
naruhina fanfiction with sakura bashing where sasuke gets paired off with haku (who joins konoha) made me like it
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>>288473524
I liked the one were sasuke is a sultan in orochimarus hideout or dungeon and he is given numerous sex slaves to fuck and none of them sre able to please hin because they do not look like Naruto.
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>>288473575
I like the kind of narusasu where sasuke is super into naruto
I don't really care for it the other way around though for some reason
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>>288472525
For some fucking now i just began taking in consideration to NS maybe its because of that iceberg lore video or this art work that had gone viral
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>>288473813
Oh shit i saw this on twitter today.
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>>288473524
How much bashing are we talking?
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>>288466936
i'm sure these legendary guys are not just filler tier jobbers.
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>>288467159
kek at bottom middle panel
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>>288473036
It's likely there were a bunch that weren't shown, if Chiyo and Kimimaro were still free.
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>>288467190
like history, the first time is a tragedy, the second a farce.
>>288467221
thanks op.
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>>288466847
>>288466860
Holy fuark is that a Silk Song reference?
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>>288474516
You're welcome
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>>288473029
Correct
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>>288466882
>>288473275
>the second coming of the demon AURA
He's just really sweaty
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>>288474565
Are you the anon that'd always spam the Sasuke gif of him sitting in a chair?
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>>288466929
God damn it Kishi
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>>288467349
He developed it to counter Kakashi's sharaingan. But he didn't know Kakashi was also a dogdad
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>>288474689
No(no).
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>>288447720
so true. Everything peaked at Naruto vs Pain. Hard crash after that.
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>>288474855
It's not explicitly stated but at the very least you devised a plan for it to counter to sharaingan. I only assume he developed it because if it's always been in his arsenal, it would make sense for him to use it on every assassination attempt. Like his first encounter with team 7. But no I don't think it's origin is ever stated
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>>288466833
these noncanon movie ass swords lol
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>>288474966
>You devised
He devised*
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>>288474924
Even Naruto vs Pain was a bit lame.
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>>288469634
He'd kill anyone. It's just odd that he killed thousands in the war arc yet never managed to kill a single named character
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>>288474996
the mistake was to not have made pain the 4th hokage but some little shit that got talked no jutsu.
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Kaguya's anime backstory is still canon.

fuuuuuck yes
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>>288474966
He was bed-ridden the entire time until his next battle with team 7. He'd have no time to develop it. There would also be no way Kabuto would know about his move-set if he developed that technique right before he died.

this daily sucks. no amount of janny censorship will change that
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>>288474565
lmao
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>>288475122
>Tean Y Auto
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>>288475122
These are all pretty stupid.
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part of my problem with pain is he just feels too much like an oc donut steal.
>he's all powerful and can just "singlehandedly" take down a whole village
>you can't beat him
>he only "loses" because he kills himself
>also he can revive nearly everyone he killed so naruto doesn't have to live with failure for being unable to save the leaf and several of his friends.
and the tnj isn't very convincing either. and naruto didn't even have a real argument.
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>>288475129
Nobody cares
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>>288474996
poorly animated too.
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>>288473813
>iceberg lore video
what's it say about narusaku?
or anything interesting in general?
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>>288475339
>Pain
Anon, that was 7 volumes ago. Nobody cares.
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>>288475451
anons were just talking about pain, anon... >>288474924 >>288474996
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>>288475339
Bro is reading on Internet explorer...
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>>288475419
Its going to be a hit long because it was under tier lists.
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New official summer sakura art
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>>288466929
>penetrating my boywife again?
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>>288470026
>10th aniversary
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>>288475419
>>288475920
The most interesting ones were.
>kakazu hunted Hashirama down over his gambling debt theory.

>orochimarus organ black market ring through all his hideouts as an underground railroad.

>nephilim giants and every clue or proof that there are giant humans in the manga through part one and early shippuden.

>the character Hanzo was inspired by Adolf hitler.

>Kakashi’s dad killed himself as soon as he passed the entry exam to the ninja academy.
>Implying that as his son will be in the care of the academy he an heros.

>sakura was not lying to naruto in the confession about her feelings.
>as post pain subliminally added the ground work for it as well as in the fight at 5 kage summit.

>Itatchi spirit weapons were not found but given to him by the spiritual divine of the crows understanding heaven and earth blessings by the god.
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>>288476439
>And the many Christian themes and religious lore of Christianity in the naruto verse.
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>>288476501
BASEDO
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>>288466657
where kisame
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>>288476501
You're doing God's work. Thank you anon.
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>>288476501
I've been much more focused on the Kengan daily than Naruto the past month desu.
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>>288476501
BASED! I think he might be the worst person in this daily.
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>>288477140
Like 200 chapters from now things will pick back up. Whereas they will slow for omega
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>>288477271
I mean, that's still half a year from now. Omega is going to be done in like two months tops with the OP's pace, which I appreciate.
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Guys, this is great news. Naruto isn't the only thing keeping here. I'm a little less concerned now.
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>>288466929
brutal
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>>288473575
>>288473720
Sasuke didn't even care about Naruto after timeskip.
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>>288466775
>it's not because his writing of male characters is spetacular but because he clearly puts more effort into them than into the women
Does he now? When most of his male characters share the same backstory, same dialogue, same emotional beats? Women might be in the plot less but with plot like this is it really a curse?
>>288466793
That can be said for 95% of characters.
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>>288478235
>When most of his male characters share the same backstory, same dialogue, same emotional beats?
besides nagato, obito, madara, and sasuke, this isn't really a problem.
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>>288472525
>Naruto and Hinata
but done right. Shy girls are usually sassy when they open up. We never got to see Hinata break out of her shell.
>Sakura and Lee
Would have been good character development for Sakura who needed to outgrow her shallow crush on Sasuke. Lee is the opposite of Sasuke.
>Jiraiya and Tsunade,
a tragic story, he died a simp.
>Kakashi and Konan
Last survivors of their groups
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Ushio & Tora, a Fujita manga from the early 90s, has a few things Naruto shares similarities with but in particular it also has a big war where lots of dead characters come back to life to fight as it's final arc, did Naruto get that from there or is it a common gimmick battle shounens do that I just haven't seen much of?
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These pages are weird padding
>>288466699
>They don't have their weapons they aren't at full power
>>288466711
>Nope, they actually have them
>>288466755
They still aren't at full power tho.
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>>288452447
>Zabuza
More like GAY AURA
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>>288464273
Ancient times were kinda gay, also some of those traditions come from pre-christian times.
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Fun fact: the seven swordsmen of the mist are all named after fruits.
>>288466833
Ringo = apple
>>288466847
Akebino = akebia
>>288466860
Kuri'arare = kuri = chestnut
>>288466870
Munashi = nashi = pear
Suikazan = suika = watermelon
>>288466882
Hozuki = physalis
And also...
Momochi (Zabuza) = momo = peach
Chojuro = cho = plum
(Kisame) Hoshigaki = kaki = persimmon
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>>288447695
I think Pakura was the only Scorch user ever introduced in the series.
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>>288447588
>Sakura is there only to heal the wounded
>they still die
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>>288448125
Dubious canon
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>>288473513
Maybe because the previous Mizukage was the jinchuuriki of the three tails and got loose after he died.
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>>288469758
No, and in Boruto seven random fucks tried to revive the 7 swordsmen in some filler arc.
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>>288466711
I always found it funny how the tall skinny guy just gets a thin long sword.
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>>288447602
Remember canonically Kakshi and Guy did 90% of the work in battle.

Why did Kakashi become so strong during the war
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>>288473275
It was never suggested that Suigetsu had that ability because of Orochimaru.
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>>288478288
This >>288466860 is more brutaler
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>>288480354
Damn i missed. Meant for >>288477748
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>>288447602
>haku upscale
Cringe. But I love stuff like Zabuza throwing the coffins and the zombies popping out of them. That kind of theatricality is what keeps me reading this stuff.
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>>288480453
Haku was holding back originally because he hates violence
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>>288464914
>this cycle of hatred idea is a shallow and narrow-minded way of explaining conflict?
i think it's shallow in how it explains bringing peace too.
>everyone who knows the same pain shouldn't be enemies
more often than not irl, you'll see people actively thinking everyone should go through the same hardships they experienced so it's fair. people become jaded and uncaring towards people suffering the same things. they won't think "we felt the same pain so we should be friends!"
that's just unrealistic.
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>>288480599
No, Haku was literally knocked out by an enraged Naruto—it wasn't even Naruto's cloak. And his jutsu was kind of downgraded in that part, since it uses the Sharingan's ability without any of the drawbacks. I love how the craziness of the early series clashes with the craziness of the late series. The author downplayed a lot of things to hype up the “new” ability. I’m talking specifically about Minato’s Raijin, which is a watered-down substitution jutsu, but the author in a databook was like, “muh, substitution is garbage.” I mean, I read the manga, fuck whatever’s outside of it.
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>>288480453
>>haku upscale
Where?
>And his jutsu was kind of downgraded in that part, since it uses the Sharingan's ability without any of the drawbacks. I love how the craziness of the early series clashes with the craziness of the late series
I don't quite understand what you're talking about.
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>>288475339
My problem with him is that he's 300iq genius with Minato's reaction speed in one scenes and retarded slowpoke in the others. Tendo's defeat was ridiculous.
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>>288480710
Haku was able to create a pocket dimension. Later on, this was portrayed as a bigger deal with Kamui. The early series had some wild stuff like that. Two Hokages, Haku, substitution jutsu. Things that were downplayed or literally removed from the story
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>>288480738
>Two Hokages
Hashirama and Tobirama? They've became way bigger of a deal later on.
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>>288466775
>Kishimoto would never write a female Itachi or female Sasuke
Konan? She pulled off some high-iq shit and is pretty stoic in general. But yeah, not nearly as important or independent.
>He also would never write a male be as much of a detriment to a fight as Sakura was in 5KS
Or make the male forgive the female he's simping for after being betrayed and left for dead the way Karin forgave Sasuke.
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>>288466797
Santa-san!
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>>288473524
I really dislike character bashing in fanfiction.
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>>288480971
It's basically just as indulgent as making your favorite character a mary sue.
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>>288478235
Rehashes are better than humiliation rituals.
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>>288479584
Neat
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>>288477788
He hid his feelings for Naruto deep down inside himself
fanfiction makes anything possible
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>>288476229
lols
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>>288480599
If Haku was holding back to the extent the war wants you to think, not only would he be unable to even be touched by either Kid Naruto and Sasuke, he would also be able to save Zabuza and have him do the dirty work.
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>>288480871
Konan is nowhere near comparable to Itachi in all powerlevel, coolness and wank perspectives.
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>>288482638
Hell, she barely had any spoken lines.
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what would her unwashed asshole fucking smell like bros
https://files.catbox.moe/csm1d2.jpeg
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>>288483053
That's disgusting dude
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>>288475339
he cute tho
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>>288474966
>sharaingan
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>>288483053
For Naruto its gotta be 2nd to his favorite ramen, but i believe it would be musty.
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>>288483931
I find it cute actually
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>>288447553
yum
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>>288483931
This nigga has never gotten his bootyhole licked before
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I see Sakon has started posting again...
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>>288485055
Who?



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