Baby should have been the final villain for that entire show He neatly wraps up the tuffle saiyan conflict as their final strategy to beat the saiyans is to possess/control them instead of through conventional war they subverted the saiyans be harnessing their power
>>288516126I forgot this guy wasn't GT's final boss until seeing this thread. Granted I haven't thought about DB at all in decades, next time put Dragon Ball somewhere in your OP text so it gets hidden by my filters thanks
he wraps up the saiyans but saiyans only became a thing like half way through dragon ball with the saiyan arc. the dragon balls are the soul of the series and syn shenron is perfect
Pan? A heroine in these Halls.
>not a villain>enslaves all of humanity>kills and oppresses countless across the universe to enact his plans>destroys the world>filler race wrapping up anything
>>288516349The tuffles are not mentioned at any point within the original manga, as very little about the Saiya-jin past is ever mentioned whatsoever, much less them having shared their planet with any other race or eventually overthrew the race and took control of the planet.That being said, Toriyama was responsible forcoming up with themfor the anime filler that first introduced them, describing their advanced technology and small physical stature, and how the planet was originally referred to as Plant.His primary notes from that page>Planet Plant is a difficult planet to live on, as its gravity is unusually strong. >However, two races live here. The majority of the inhabitants of Planet Plant are Tsufruian. Their bodies are small, but knowledge-wise they have a comparatively advanced culture and civilization. >The other race has an unusually small population, but their bodies are large and strong. They are a primitive, warlike race called the Saiyans. >Their biggest distinguishing characteristic is that they have tails, and every one of them seems to be a warrior.If toriyama says they're canon, then what makes them non-canon? They appeared in the shows and baby was a major gt villain
>>288516126That is correct.
>>288516458He finally gave vegeta multiple wins against goku too. He also made vegeta taller than bulma. Look it up, Super baby vegeta form 2 is like 6 ft 4 in tall.
>>288516126>the super-genius race that got wiped out by savage monkeys are... le bad guys!Tuffle plots are cringe
Baby is a gay name andt he design was retarded. Not that Shartmega Shenron was much better desu.
>>288516646Its nice to see the other pov, but yeah they could try and flesh out the war better
>>288517514Who's the best villain in gt in your opinion?
>>288517554I always wanted Super 17 to fuck my gf and suck his cum from her pussy desu
>>288517658We should have gotten a super 18 in that saga as the main villain. She would have broke both of vegeta's arms
>>288516285nope, kind of annoying. Sort of became useful with the shadow dragon saga though. Honestly she shouldn't have been included so young. Should have bulla/bra instead who was older that went with him and goten.
I always thought the idea of Baby being a villain was idiotic. As far as he knows, the Saiyans are still a scourge on the universe. Of course he's pissed off. Then the writers did that thing where they had him start killing his own citizens to show that he's crazy
>>288517792Would've been cool
>>288517962The real winner would be krillin in that saga if she stays in that form
>>288517910Do you think if he possessed goku, he could mutate him back into adult form. Vegeta grew like a foot by the time baby hit his strongest form 2 from absorbing all the power on earth and the saiyan power from gohan, goten,trunks, bulla?
