Here's your new axebait.I mean new bottom dweller.I mean new kiyoshi cushion.I mean new hit.
our
Another Kgb humiliation ritual? Fine.
>>288524013>Mha but furryMhabros we are so back
>>288524013The official chart.
>>288524027DRAGON
>>288524068Forgot pic.
>Nuefag(s?) were actually RokufagsSurprising news
>>288524119It's a manga for waifufags and for fujos what did you expect.
>>288524119I'm one of the few real Rokufags. I've never read Nue.
>>288524054*Ichi the DECLINE humiliation ritual
>>288524134What do you read in the magazine anon?
>>288524158>Trying again after no one bit, last threadI find it kind of odd how salesfagging doesn't get under ichifags skin the way it does bachifags. Why so insecure, I wonder.
>>288524158Declinebachi?
>>288524203Monthly results tonight so we’ll see
>>288524119At first I was there for Sachiko tetas but I ended up liking it a lot.
>>288524119They're both wsj manga.
>>288524201>>288524203But you just bit and felt called out
>being humiliated so hard he FLED to another thread 450 posts in>>288524019
>>288524119Luv RokuLuv nueSimple as
>>288524247Two series nobody give a shit aside from consolewar
>>288524185Only the new batch.
>>288524239You said you're leaving, chartfag
>>288524293>ESL
>>288524067Will they add their own Endeavour? I hope so>>288524119Everyone loves Roku here!>>288524134Doggo chapter never ever
>you said you are leaving Sigh
>>288524119>wsj readers read wsj manga
>>288524293like you left for another thread?
>>288524237>Felt called outNo, I just wanted to pose the question of why your post doesn't work. You're also replying to two separate anons.
>>288524316>literally no ESL therePedro...
>>288524351It’s “you said you were leaving”, not “you said you are leaving”
>>288524385>flees the thread after posting this simple fact
>>288524385It's literally both, these are two different sentences, not one over the other, Rajesh...
>>288524027FAMILY
>
Me & Roboco color page scheduled for Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #29 is for celebrate the series popularity and the 6th anniversary which is coming up!
>>288524428You are wrong, AGAIN.Be honest with me, is your need to humiliate yourself related to the insane amount of cuck porn you consume?
>>288524484God I wish I had a Roboco of my own.
>>288524013
>>288524499There is a mental illness that makes you triple down after being wrong because saying "i was wrong" hurts your ego more than being laughed at
>>288524594You’re literally just projecting
>>288524499You're the one who reads NTRbachi, you tell me
Anyone autistic enough to count all volume copies of UD in mercari?https://jp.mercari.com/search?keyword=UNDER%20DOCTOR&page_token=v1%3A0
>>288524484The STRONGEST knees
>>288524484Feel bad for hokazono, he is never going to be number one or top 3 at this rate and last time ranked really low
>>288524614There's atleast 200 copies in that first page assuming none of it aren't repost
>>288524614Just bought 50 more copies. I'm gonna be RICH
>>288524608>you tell meOk, I'm telling you: You were wrong, you are mentally ill and you will forever seethe at KAGURABACHI's success
Kinatobros...
>Time to break out the Hori obi
>>288524428Funny you said that after you revealed your country >>250102706>>250102832>>250102972And then THIS happened >>283041493
>>288524686>KAGURABACHI's successWell, Black clover tuer isn’t that bad yes
>>288524774It sells more already.
>>288524765>random deleted postshuh?
>>288524789Nope.
>>288524796Ignore the schizo
Keep barking, puppy.
>>288524796Use the archive. The last post proves that the chartschizo was an Indian
>>288524872which one
You said you're leaving, sophia...
>>288524013ENTER Animal Deku
>>288524872Nah, i ain't a fucking retard who keep tracks of old posts.
why a bat ? its only interesting if its a proper vampire
>>288524293Didn't you say you were INTO the chartfag? I think that's called doomed yaoi lol>>288524928You kid but when this was mentioned I thought it would've been right up Hori's alley. Didn't he say he wanted to try a romcom? Between that and Crazy Zoo that'd fit him to a T.
>>288524971Too late to try to be part of Horifags team now
>>288525109Just how fucking paranoid are you that you prehemptively go "nuh uh can't like a manga that isn't even out yet"?
>>288525167Means nothing.
i did not see happy going in this direction
>>288524971Hori will probably like this and draw some fan art
who won?
>>288524013It can see this doing well they love this type of series over there
>>288524067That was oumagadouki zoo
Centuria and Make the Exorcist Fall in Love are trash.
>>288524013Synopsis?Is everyone half animal?
>>288525109Stop trying to implement a clan system into these threads, this ain't a live service videogame>>288525355It'd nice, the way he draws girls was always his forte. Now it's up to 22i to deliver some good designs. Rabbit girl is cute but looks like a side character (maybe a receptionist). Main girl has weird colors but she looks fun. I like cheeky girls in romcoms.
We need to assemble the sinister six
>>288525355If hori hasnt done one for ruri and hitoner, he certainly won't for this.Hitoner probably might get one when he gets a mha obi too.
>>288526079Saito defeated them.
>>288526804Always bet on Saito.
>>288524872Both actually, first 3 posts are with the timezone and post with the xitter screenshot had indian interface.
>>288524971He's an ESL who doesn't understand what he said even.
>>288524971>>288527059I thought you were gonna leave?
Dog too big.
>>288527085Not your unrequited love, sorry.
>>288527124Keep your word and leave.
>>288527171I guess your love who you claimed to be into, left indeed. At least I don't see any chart updates since he said that.
>>288524484>Roboco is the second oldest manga in the magazine (not counting manga in hiatus hell like HxH and BtW)>Roboco's author has seen over 60 manga of all genres end or get axed while he continues to do his weekly gags without issue
>>288527085Hey you got it right!
>>288526122Im sure Hori would have wanted to do an obi for Ruri but Shindo rejected it since he gives those vibes
>>288527218Do the needful and leave as promised.
>>288527262Show any of his chart updates to prove he did not leave.
>>288527262>Do the needful You are exposing your roots again. >>288524765
>>288527421To have fun at the expense of your seething, of course.
>>288527474>no U>deleted the post in seethekek
>>288527366it's a meme you dip
who lost?
>>288528402the general spammer
>>288524013I hope this one survives
>that one bachischizo is apparently still obsessed with me, talks to someone he thinks is me and keep gazillion archives in check for what he thinks were my posts even though i post here once a month at bestkek, so fucking funny how my charts hit his nervebtw, bachi is still stagnating/declining, which is funny given HOW much has Jump poured into keeping it afloatliterally all the tricks to boost its sales but it was only able to merely keep it afloatkekw kekw kekwtotal bachi loss
>says I'm leaving>doesn't leavehuh
>>288528402Mashiro.
>>288524013axe kinato
>>288528629>i post here once a month at bestWhy lying? Find a single day in the archive where you didn't seethe about KGB
nips on twitter are starting to suspect something is wrong with kagurabachi (they are right)
>>288529679>hate something>obsessed with it>to the point your whole feed is filled with said somethingSad, very sad
>>288529679>necrobumping AND twitterpostingThat's a new low even for you.Did you at least finish crying after the humiliation you got today or are you still sad about being wrong AGAIN?
>>288529679>hishaku appeal droppedwhat fucking appeals, they were glorified hobos, if anything Hokuto gave them aura
>>288529679>Xitter screencap of a literal whoJannies need to back to nuking these threads on site.
Yabuki made a new secondary twitter account for personal stuff to keep separate from the commercial accounthttps://x.com/yabuki_side
>>288529746I wonder how he doesn't realize this, to find those posts you need to search for it 24/7
>>288528629Oh so that's why you believe the chartanon is here, you think everyone is the same as you, you do a lot of projection.
Another good day for loser revenge porn
>>288529835>they were glorified hobosThey're MY glorified hobos and they deserve an arc dedicated to their formation.
KGB vol 12 is back to being in August after an update.
>>288530146Akemura solo cover soon.
>>288530146Inject it in my veins, Takeru
>>288530146That's another emergency break for Hokazono
>>288530146>the break was for the coverlmao
>go to sleep>wake up>schizos still fightingTake a nap you silly gooses
>Gets to do CP/Cover>Emergency break >Preparing for tankobon>Emergency break >Got shoved to bottom 5 in ToC >Emergency break
Anime SOON
>>288530146When's Roku?
Sakamoto still getting boosts from the live action
Remember when the anime trailer dropped and he pretended like 2 smear frames were signs of AI generation. I think that was the most genuinely insane he’s been in recent memory.
>>288530336he was probably in the bottom 5 last week because he turned in the chapter late, in that case a break this week makes sense
kaguradownie still talking to himself?
QUEER
>>288524269What?
>chihiro in kgb's kid friendly spinoff manga they'll make after the anime if it's successful
KGB losted
Bigly
I miss Undead Unluck. With how veteran-friendly Jump has been as of late, when is Tozuka going to get another shot?
AS leaks?
>>288524013does wsj even have a furry audience
Yesterday I met with Hokazono, asking what's with the sudden break again. He immediately shouted 'SUCK MY COCK DUDE' which was one of the few english sayings he knew from reading some international manga forum. He immediately left the vicinity while being visibly angry.
>>288530938>Otr gaining a bit of traction with the bunny girl>Little Mei>Hitonerfagsits there
>>288530938They are going for the western audience
Kinato/UDMage/Jk hero
>>288530938Its more like Kemono
>>288531028Also forgot about Gonron which is doing better than mage kek
>>288531047Who cares when they’re all axed
>>288530970>SUCK MY COCK DUDEMY. MANGAKA.
>>288531028>>288531047For comparison midders and existersAkanebanashi/WWNue/Shinobi
>>288531028Seems like Kinato will do 5k and UD even less
>>288531047>Gonronoh yeah, did volume 2/3 (or 1?) confirm the gender of that one character?
Is gonrot the worst manga ever serialized under saito?>inb4 nice prisonAt least the art was clear on there and wasnt drawn by someone who hated his job
>>288524027NIGGER
>>288531185instead of extra pagws it got used to put a oneshot of the mangaka
>>288531262
>another Dekuis Deku aesthetically the best design for a MC?
>>288531297If Shiba really was a good friend to Kunishige and Chiaki, and a good uncle to Chihiro he would have said this to Chihiro before he started his revenge quest.
The king's return will save Jump...for a few months
Yeah i think Animal Signal will be the only hit of 2026
>>288531171UD is ranking higher you got it the wrong way around
>>288531598Both of them will be Kiyoshi victims
Our jump+ bretheren CSM/DDDMatoslave/Misshapen baseball playersBoruto is at 7. HxH and OP at the top just from preorders
>>288524753I was told Hori dooms other manga, by this thread but it does not appear to be the case. I was told this.
GOD, I love JUNE 5TH
>>288531681Hori's recommendations are good but being his assistant is bad so UD is neutral
>>288531664asura,dq,creep and mansion are between the 200s and 500sDebut works like Subaru and goblin doujin are around 400. The christfag in japan is doing decently in the 200s.
>Average ToC rank (percent) of last 8 weeks1. Ichi the Witch 1.39%2. One Piece 5.13%3. Someone Hertz 9.21%4. Sakamoto Days 14.14%5. Roku's House of Oddities 24.48%6. Witch Watch 34.01%7. Drawn to the Fire 36.36%8. Shinobi Undercover 42.27%9. Akane-banashi 42.99%10. Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi 43.20%11. Kagurabachi 47.05%12. Blue Box 54.14%13. Me & Roboco 58.76%14. Nue's Exorcist 64.96%15. Under Doctor 72.79%16. Hima-Ten! 73.89%17. Kinato's Magic 92.73%Alien HeadbuttHero Girl and Demon Lord Call It Quits
>>288531028UD shooting up
I guess we know why they were so confident in UD and pushing it.Not gonna lie I consider Kinato actual fecal matter and UD only has a few good chapters. Was not expecting UD to pop off this hard and expected Kinato to do much worse than this.
>>288529679>the antagonist’s motives are given actual grounding and a reason to why he did what he did>WSJ readers hate itNo wonder most new shit sucks now. Its all catered to lowest common denominator spics and smoothbrain salalrymen.
>>288532372What were previous manga first volumes like at this point? I mean, I assume UD is living, but I don't really know how to gauge Kinato
>>288532865Wow it’s almost like the people running the magazine have access to internal data we don’t and that the ramblings of schizo’s obsessed with seeing conspiracies in every axe don’t matter!
>>288533384the same people who didn't axe oturd earlier btw
>still no AS leaksdesd series with no hypw
Kiyoshi better pray the new batch don't have hits. UD is starting the coundown to his demise.
no OP and no KGB this issue means AS will get less votes for its first chaptereither its grim or the SoLchads that buy it for hertz also give one of their votes for AS instead of like BB or WW
>>288533439Already has anime protection, bitch
notice the thread dies when the third worlders go to bed
>>288533675Chojo2
>>288533675>Source: This came to me in a dream.
Soon.
>>288533794Not this week soon KWAB
>>288533821The longer the wait the more cathartic her finally entering the narrative will be.
>>288533857takeru will die before she can come back
It's safe to say UD 1 is breaking the 10k barrier which a new series hasn't done since hertz and before that was these fournin succession
>>288533896>takeru will dieJump will forge Tobimune and use External Suzaku to keep him alive until he can finish the manga.>come backShe's only appeared three times and never spoken a single word of dialogue, wouldn't really be coming back but more so actually getting to show up for real.
>>288533725I rather have a slow thread than the kgb and antikgb schizo monkeys throwing their shit
Hori's obi is powerful. Responsible for everything ud getting prices jacked up
Stop blaming OdaHe didn't do anything wrong
>>288533675>Kill Blue>Chojoand Kiyoshi never got to outsell those two even
UD needs a better femaleThe current one sucks
>>288534290okay but if anime studios will reach to animate something axed at 19 from Jump SQ like Black Torch, explain why Kiyoshi wouldn't get one
8 9784088850863 ＵＮＤＥＲ ＤＯＣＴＯＲ １ 集英社 谷本今日 2026.06.04
>>28853439510 9784088850993 Nue no Onmyoji 15
>>288534395>>288534408>UD does 30k+AIEEEE
>>288534395>>288534408Frontloaded.
>>288534395A new pillar of jump has been erected...
17 9784088850894 回撃のキナト １ 集英社 雨宮ケント 2026.06.04that's decent
>>288534616no CP, no twitter account, always at the bottom of ToC btwimagine if it got the same amount of push UD got
>>288534616>>288534395LIVE BROTHERS
>>288534616Decent as "valiant effort" or "could exist"?
>>288534395>>288534408HAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHAHAHAH
>>288534395>>288534408The horikoshi effect.
>>288534699let's see, it's putting up a better fight than oturd ever did
>>288534395Saito doubters?!
>>288534395Horikoshi(UD)>Oda(Kiyoshi)
Lil Mei wasn't even hotGrow upHave some standardsJesus
>>288534616>below Shinobithe next Kiyoshi victim
How much does Seihei Slave sell? Cause its also above it.
>>28853487215k
>26 9784088850399 悪祓士－エクソシスト－のキヨシくん ８ 集英社 臼井彰一 2026.05.01KIYOSHI IS IN DANGER
i dont care UD surviving i just want Kinato staying alive as well, starting at 17th despite all odds shouldn't be in the axe zone
>Horikoshi rec > Oda rec
>>288532988Antogonists motives are grounded into retardation and in a retarded way too though so he isn't wrong.
>>288533857This but for Tafuku.
>>288534395>>288534616I admit my loss, both of them surpassed my expectations
does 2ch also debate shoseki number?
>>288534395>>288534616LIVE
>>288534962i'll believe the oda conspiracy if my boy kinato still gets fucked in the end
>>288535041https://may.2chan.net/b/res/1412617608.htm
>>288535070>Why was Shinobigoto being pushed so hard with these sales figures?>It's too abnormal.>There's nothing else to recommend...>Look at the lineup of serialized works.
To be fair the other jump regulars will probably go above UD in rank after today. A LOT of scalping going on but still very promising results.
does kinato have scalping issue too? if not then it's 17th purely from the fans
Shoseki Day 1:5. Akane-Banashi 227. Witch Watch 268. Under Doctor 110. Nue's Exorcist 1513. Shinobi Undercover 817. Kinato's Magic 172. Hero Girl and Demon Lord 275. Hero Girl and Demon Lord 3175. Gonron Egg 3176. Gonron Egg 2206. Mage Next Door 3208. Mage Next Door 2
>>288535124I'm seeing it be resold but nowhere near the quanity or prices of UD so its 17th placement doesn't seem to be affected by anything
>>288535124It also has one. I posted a pic last thread.You can go check on mercari again.
I WILL SAVE JUMP
>>288535070>I can't believe there's a manga that's losing to Gonron...
>>288535185You corrupted Jump.
Jump belongs to me.
>>288535185we miss you GOAT!
>>288535130Looking at this. Under doctor will probably surpass the 20k barrier (if it’s not Under printed) and Kinato has good chances of surpassing the 10k one. The difference in how these two are treated compared to Kiyoshi and Shinobi is going to lead to a new round of Sales vs Magazine votes discussion
>>288535185>mfw the 3 Deku clones actually avoid the axe and thrive
>>288535130Even with the scalping, I honestly didn't expect UD to rank in the top 10. I wonder if it's TOC rankings will improve going forward.
>>288535130Kinda satisfying seeing shoseki again after the kinatofag spammed amazon preorders for a week straight
>>288535194"The Mage Next Door" is just such a dull fucking premise that I never checked it out. And then he bungled the first volume's cover with the weird hand
>>288535249Bro ain't no way dekuball is surviving. I refuse to even humor the possibility.
>saito purposely shitting on kinato because he's scared it'll drown kiyoturd>it's projected to sell 10k anyway
>>288535281Did you like the character design at least?
>>288535316>10k anywaybig Kekyoshi competition
Reminder that Hitoner WILL also get a horikoshi obi for it's Vol 1.He shilled the oneshot on Day 0 before the jump account did.
>>288535316>saito purposely shitting on kinato because he's scared it'll drown kiyoturdWhy isn't he also shitting on Under Doctor for doing the same thing? Stupid ass schizo
>>288535344that'll be too suspicious and he needs another 10k seller anyway
>>288535326I feel nothing looking at this
>1 9784088850511 チェンソーマン ２４ 集英社 藤本タツキ 2026.06.04Reminder people that hated the ending are a very vocal minority
UD is just too sus you know, i barely saw any interaction in the twitter and nipponese like to use it. i think it's entirely carried by horikoshi obi which means it can fall hard in vol 2 if few people are convinced with how it starts
>>288535070wew, the entire thread is trashing shillnobi and kiyoshit.
>>288535372The only other major jump release this month is Dandadan, which sells 100k with an anime. No shit CSM is first.
>>288535412Shinobi should have alternated between plot/fight chapters and lighthearted sol chapters like Yozakura, rather than being a people fight series with repetitive humor interrupting the battles.
>>288535332There’s no competition, Oda nepotism gives kiyoshi a 100k status
KEK
kek
Jump is losing Blue Box and later SakaDays but has to celebrate UD and Kinato not being gigaflopsGrim, dire even
>>288535546>>288535547We thought there was just one person posting in this thread, but it turns out /wsj/ is just a big hivemind
>>288535412>The crematoriums are operating at full capacity and there are long lines, the garbage chutes are clogged with too much accumulated wastejfc they are savage
>Samwan is good as a romantic comedy, but as a gag, there are many times when you think, "What is this guy even saying...?"NOT EVEN NIP UNDERSTOOD THE JOKE?
>>288535690What joke?
>I wouldn't want to put this kind of cover in the main store.>The main character of this manga is always in the same pose.
Jump+ 1 9784088850511 チェンソーマン ２４ 集英社 藤本タツキ 2026.06.04CSM2 9784088851259 ダンダダン ２４ 集英社 龍幸伸 2026.06.04DDD9 9784088851174 魔都精兵のスレイブ ２１ 集英社 竹村洋平 2026.06.04Mato Slave11 9784088850658 サンキューピッチ ６ 集英社 住吉九 2026.06.04Ugly baseball turds 28 9784088851112 天傍台閣 ５ 集英社 弓庭史路 2026.06.04Tenbou daikaku44 9784088851594 英雄機関 ６ 集英社 高橋アキラ 2026.06.04Hero organization46 9784088851617 伴天連怪談 １ 集英社 三木有 2026.06.04Bataran Kaiden93 9784088850665 打ち切られ漫画家と同人女 １ 集英社 澄ヒビト 2026.06.04Canceled goblin mangaka106 9784088850719 こわいやさん ４ 集英社 カメントツ 2026.06.04Creepy and freaky114 9784088850559 ナイトライトハウンズ ４ 集英社 中田春彌 2026.06.04Night light hounds118 9784088851600 人喰いマンションと大家のメゾン ４ 集英社 あきま 2026.06.04Maison apartment135 9784088850528 ドラマクイン ６ 集英社 市川苦楽 2026.06.04Drama Queen 139 9784088851730 無敵のスバル １ 集英社 成田成哲 2026.06.04Invincible Subaru153 9784088850498 にこにこ元気ハッピーちゃん １ 集英社 犬嶋乃介 2026.06.04Genki happychan185 9784088850542 アスラの沙汰 ４ 集英社 宇乃花空樹 2026.06.04Asura judgementA couple of other jump+ releases didn't make the top 500
>>288534872Post Seihei slave ranking
>Shinobi's initial Oricon sales were around 10,000 copies, but recently it has been growing, reaching around 13,000 copies in its first week, the same as Nue, making it the top of the lower ranks.>Himaten barely missed 10,000 copies in its first week, and Kiyoshi's sales were too low to even make it onto the Oricon rankings.
>>288535845>Ugly baseball turdsYou are the ugly turd.
Kaguraweiners
A lot of Under Doctor Sales were from scalpers right? Won't it have a huge drop off starting from the 2nd volume?
>>288535893The problem with Shinobi is that it quickly drops off and doesn't reach 20K. It's kinda weird how there is such a difference between buying habits.
>>288535927Seems to be selling well on kindle/digital too
>>288535927maybe, but this is Saito we are talking about. The moment he sees something that passes the survival line, he will shill that as super big hit (read: Shinobi)
>>288535943Post current Amazon rankings for UD, Nue and Kinato.
I don't understand the boring tastes of Japanese people at all if UD is this big of a hit.
>>288535962See>>288532372Btw paperback is sold out on amazon
>>Shinobi is lame>>There's no way he'll be the next flagship title>Only the current editor-in-chief thinks Shinobi will become the flagship title>It reminds me of how they were pushing Undead Unluck>It's really unfair to compare it to UU.
>>288535971they either has bad taste, or the tankoubon is only the extra to the obi that got sold
>>288535130What did Kinato do right that Shadow Eliminators failed to do? I don't get it
>>288535997UU is unironically too old school and soulful for nu-Jumpers
>>288535130Now we can safely cancel Shinobi and Kinato.
>>288535130You gotta feel bad for Alien Headbutt. It got U19'd meanwhile the other two are ranking in the top 20
>>288536034Lots of boobsRealistically, I imagine a lot of Kinato's placement has to do with the seemingly big success UD is. People go to the shop to get UD and go "might as well get the other new one too"
>>288536058>UU is unironically too old school and soulful for nu-JumpersI'm pretty sure the MC trying to rape the heroine on chapter fucking 1 would be considered trash even for old jump
>>288536063Ouga died so kinato and kino could THRIVE
>>288536058UU would've flopped in either era. Jump back then was already pushing the twink pretty boy MCs over muscular chads
>>288536034Shadow eliminators was nearly unreadable. I'm not even talking about the plot (glasses guy killed the manga on his own), it's that the structure, the action, and the flow of the story were all over the place. Chapter 2 was already a total mess
>>288536124Was Toriko the last successful one? Even that one is debatable considering it's legacy as the "failed next big thing"
>>288536034Shadow Eliminators was worse than early Nue in terms of Action Flow.
SUKUNASCHIZO WON
>A sad existence that was made into a game but nobody talks about it.Damn, that hurts.
>25 9784088843223 ひまてん！ １ 集英社 小野玄暉 2024.11.01>25 9784088844381 ひまてん！ ２ 集英社 小野玄暉 2025.01.04>28 9784088843230 悪祓士－エクソシスト－のキヨシくん １ 集英社 臼井彰一 2024.11.01>16 9784088843940 悪祓士－エクソシスト－のキヨシくん ２ 集英社 臼井彰一 2025.02.04>27 9784088844015 しのびごと １ 集英社 みたらし三大 2025.01.04>15 9784088844145 しのびごと ２ 集英社 みたらし三大 2025.03.04If kinato and ud can keep this up with volume 2 in august then they shouldn't have an axe hanging over their necks
Not to overstate things because I know this wasn't the most packed/competative release day, but isn't this actually really good for both UD and Kinato?
>>288535337He also shilled Ruri and that didnt happen
>>288536246Under Doctor is too suspicious with all those reports of scalpers.
>>288536309Yeah mayb. We'll see with the volume 2 release if it was due to fomo
>>288536252The only time he ever talks about ruri was the comparison to endeavor during either an interview or the volume's extra.Meanwhile, he straight up just promoted the hitoner oneshot on his @horikoshiko account. Not a retweet, he straight up just post a link and told people to read it.anx I don't he was ever an assistant for hori to begin with or vice versa.
KAWAGUCHI HATER LOST
>>288536248I feel bad for Hakutaku's author. The guy spent 12 years making oneshots that lost the GFC twice and working as an assistant for Black Clover, and when he finally had the chance to be serialized, his manga became the worst flop in recent history. It was so forgettable that it didn't even get a U19 edit.
>>288536248Kinato outselling all of 2025 except the 2 hits is kinda nuts considering it's been rotting at the bottom of the toc for weeks.
>>288536309It's really pretty weird. Dunno why they are pushing it so hard, plus scalpers should be smart enough to see it doesn't really have potential
>>288536248Kinato would have debuted at around 20-22 which isn't even bad.
>>288535590Himaten at least will end, but Shinobi and Kiyoshi are so forced shilled.
Still coping lmao
>>288535344Because ud doesn't have too much potential and ud decided to remove the fighting, while kinato has potential just for the waifus AND fighting >But Kinato is bad!It doesn't matter, it's a potential fighting manga that could surpass kiyoshi
Can someone explain why a recommendation band over a book is enough to drive up sales and is somehow a collector's item to barter and sell.
>>288536558>the one with highest sell got axed first
>>288534680I KNOW YOU WILL BE BACK SOMEDAY
>>288536581It's too suspicious. I think Jump pulled the self buy technique other companies do when they want to shill something
>>288536073copping a feel is based
>>288536617the /biz/ stock market manipulation tactics?
>>288524134That dog is way too big.
>>288536595Vol1+2? 100k minimum in the first weekInui's next series? A billion sales if I'm being realistic
>The number of copies printed for the first volume of a new series is apparently fixed regardless of its popularity, soif anything, Nue and Shinobigoto, which are below that level, are not doing so well. >What's up with Nue losing to Andoku despite having a voting ticket boost?>Did the fans not know that electronic votes don't come with voting tickets?
>>288536783Champion Jump Magazine Sunday
>>288524484I hope the color page is a bit lewd
>>288525341Well shit I might actually have to read it now
>>288536752>>What's up with Nue losing to Andoku despite having a voting ticket boost?Oh yeah, nue should be having a "popularity poll boost"
>>288533675Chojo bro
>>288535372If the ending was good people would still talk about the series, instead all that's left is waifufags
>>288535845>A couple of other jump+ releases didn't make the top 500Blobtopia or is the volume for that not out yet?
>>288536794Magazine won.
Damn akanebanashit couldn't stop losing even for a minute. This time with its flopping anime
>>288536794>WSM has better fightan shit than WSJ>also has infinitely fucking superior waifusWSJ is in a pretty disgraceful situation.
>>288536896July release
>>288536919That's what happens when you cater to the west
>>288536841here are my 2 copes as a nueGOD; you could already vote on the popularity poll on the issue with the nue anni cover and UD sales are frontloaded as fuck
What does hori have that oda doesn't? Heck even Suzuki too.
>>28853487Seihei slave is a 30k seller>>288535871Its just 1 rank below ud
>>288536981My bad, replying to>>288534954
>>288536958WSJ would never have the balls to publish something like To Love Ru today. Meanwhile WSM has shit like Kanan-sama and Yumeno Connect that make TLR look like wholesome manga for kindergartners. And Yumeno Connect is literally just a flagrant TLR rip-off. WSJ has no soul anymore. They're afraid to push boundaries.
>>288536981>30k seller>23k????
KINATOOOOOOOO WOOOOOOOOOOOONKINATOOOOOOOOOONKINATOWONKINATO ANIME SOONKINATO PILLAR SOONKINATO SHOSEKI TOP 5 SOON KINATO COLOR PAGE SOONKINATO REPRINT NOTICE SOON
>>288537009Yeah, instead they publish romcoms that obliterate what WSM has to offer sales wise.
>>288524013Who´s this Zhao ripoff?
>>288537022>days on sale>7 daysYou know manga volumes are so available to purchase after the first week, right?
>>288536794Insane how Jump's catalog is the blandest of them all. Something went wrong with Jump post-2020.
>>288537033We only count the first week sales around here pal
>>288537072>Something went wrong with Jump post-2020.Viz started calling the shots
>>288537022As soon as i post that, i already knew there is going to be retarded fucking replies like this
>>288537027Bluebox isn't a romcom, and is also less successful than Kanokari. Someone Hertz is doing pretty good, but it's not like it's super impressive yet. Hima-Ten! can't even meaningfully outsell Mayotuna is is literally ending while Mayotuna got reprints and a sales boost from its overnight shoddy adaptation. Those are the only three romance manga WSJ has on offer. Unless you think Syd Craft was mogging the romcoms in WSM before it got axed? But if we're going to talk about series that have ended, I'll be happy to remind you that WSM serialized the most popular romcom manga in the past two decades, which is still getting content and even a new anime years after it ended. And that there have been plenty of other decent, moderately successful romcoms to come from the magazine in that timeframe as well. The last meaningfully successful WSJ romcom was Bokuben, and it got absolutely fucking mogged by the afformentioned titan that was 5toubun.
>>288537072There's literally nothing blander than WSM>like two sports series>three bad shonen one of which is constantly on break>a shitton of shitty romcoms spearheaded by fucking kanokari
How is the toc even going to look like now? Is saito going to start putting doc higher than shillnobi? Is he just going to keep putting nakano's series in the bottom 5 instead of shillnobi?
>>288529679This isn't started at vol.9, the whole previous arc was kinda shit, clowning it's villain, introducing dozens of jobbers, giving big ass plot armor (Hakuri not getting slimed by Yura when they were in the same room lol) and basically trying to do a Shibuya 2.0 (failed).Shit was ass
>>288537137If Saito is not blind we will enter the Shillnato era
>>288537025This is just sad now
>>288537112SLF is better than any battle manga in WSJ not named One Piece. And it isn't even remotely fucking close. And that's a fucking web novel adaptation. Sentai Daishikkaku mogs most of Jump as well. Gachiakuta isn't really my thing, but you're seriously gonna try to tell me with a straight face that shit like Nue, Kiyoshi, and fucking Ichi are better than it? Nah. Fuck of with that.
>>288536919I noticed WSJ's focus changed around the time they pushed aside Ayakashi Triange to SJ+. Newer series around that time started lacking traditional Jump appeal. Suddenly there were blander MCs and aesthetics looked more feminine like they listened to complaints about the magazine being a boys-club when feminists criticized them for not having female editors and all those controversial Yuuna covers. Also the fact that their manga app got big with westerners around that time.
>>288537149I'm a legit fan, chapter 2 hooked me
>UD will sell better than Shinobi despite all that fuckass shillingSTATUS?????
>>288536248Both series are being targeted by scalpers. And even though it has only been one day, UD is reportedly already sold out in many stores, also Kinato to lesser degree. This means they have low initial print. Nue previous vol did 8k in 3 days. So if UD and Kinato are already having stock issues right now while performing around Nue. Then their initial print shouldn't be more than 10k.
>>288537100>The last meaningfully successful WSJ romcom was Bokuben, and it got absolutely fucking mogged by the afformentioned titan that was 5toubun.And Nisekoi obliterated whatever was in WSM back then.>Bluebox isn't a romcomIt is.>and is also less successful than KanokariReally? How much does it sell? Never paid attention to its sales, do nips unironically love cuckshit so much?
>>288537100>Bluebox isn't a romcom, and is also less successful than KanokariKusoKari does less than 50k for the last 3 years
>>288537137I dont understand how>akane>witch watch>roboco>bluebox>sakamotoArent placed in the botrom half now after their anime bombed or that its ending.
>>288537161>>SLF is better than any battle manga in WSJ not named One Piece. And it isn't even remotely fucking closeDude, no.>Sentai Daishikkaku mogs most of Jump as well. Crap> Gachiakuta isn't really my thing, but you're seriously gonna try to tell me with a straight face that shit like Nue, Kiyoshi, and fucking Ichi are better than it?Worse than Ichi.
>>288534872seihei sells like 350k+ per volume if digital is included since it has 6m total sales or some shit
>>288537072with 100k being the current pinnacle , I wonder what wsj will look like in 2036
>>288527219>Roboco's author has seen over 60 manga of all genres end or get axed while he continues to do his weekly gags without issueIsn't this how Kochikame worked, too?
>>288537190>akaneShilled nepotism garbage.>robocoShilled gag which also shills other WSJ manga in return.>witch watchNo clue really.>blueboxIt is in the bottom half now.>sakamotoThey still believe in it (live action, more anime).
>>2885371903/5 of those series are wrapping up anyway
>no cps>no twitter account>last minute endorsement>just a tiny ad>still ranked 17thKINATO WON
Seitokai ni mo Ana wa Aru! is not a romcom, but I read it's very popular and got awards. It's also more ecchi than anything on WSJ right now so that's a plus for me.
>>288537233Honestly? yeah lmao
>>288537161>SLF is better than any battle manga in WSJThe only good fight in SLF is that samurai shit. The rest is spent on boring shit like wasting multiple volumes playing other game>Sentai Daishikkaku mogs most of Jump as wellNo, it isn't lmao. Neither of current jump manga is so bad that it loses 70% of its readers in like a year
>>2885371902 of those are in the bottom 5 right now anon. And yet they outsell kiyonobi.
>>288537187>And Nisekoi obliterated whatever was in WSM back then.And then a few years later 5toubun rolled around and fucking raped it. >It is.It absolutely isn't. It's a shōjo romance masquerading as spokon. >Really? How much does it sell? Never paid attention to its sales, do nips unironically love cuckshit so much?Manga sales are not the only metric by which is a series' success is measured. Kanokari is a multimedia monster. The sheer amount of money that series produces though merchandising and collaborations alone is guaranteed to topple any amount that Blue Box has managed to earn via only manga sales. And that's not even getting into the fact that the anime is somehow STILL successful. Kanokari absolutely fucking prints money. That said, I believe as of about a year ago it had 14 million copies in circulation. Suffice it to say Blue Box has not achieved that.
>we might be in the timeline where kinato gets axe anyways while outselling kiyoshi
~Weekly Shonen Magazine series last volume estimated from 4 weeks~1. Blue Lock 36 — 195,284 (Anime)2. Shangri-la Frontier 24 — 99,146 (Anime)3. Hajime no Ippo 144 — 61,752 (Anime)4. Four Knights of the Apocalypse 24 — 43,776 (Anime)5. Seitokai ni mo Ana wa Aru! 11 — 33,1856. Rent-a-Girlfriend 43 — 33,074 (Anime)7. Gachiakuta 17 — 28,405 (Anime)8. A Couple of Cuckoos 30 — 27,345 (Anime)9. Yaergnacht of the Dark Moon 2 — 20,70910. Kaijin Fugeki 6 — 19,78911. Kuroiwa Medaka 21 — 16,508 (Anime)12. Orion's Board 7— 13,29413. Mayonaka Heart Tune 10 — 12,55314. Ranger Reject 20 — 9,942 (Anime)15. Ao no Miburo 21 — 9,291 (Anime)16. Yowayowa Sensei 15 — 7,90817. Kanan-sama 11 — 7,12118. Dream Jumbo Girl 2 — 5,25919. Yumene Connect 5 — 4,05620. Suruga Meteor 3 — 2,76521. Idolatry 1 — 2,37422. Kito the Night Bell 2 — <950 / 4 days in the Shoseki top 500.
>>288537277I didn't say the manga sold well. I said it's better. And it is. Considerably better. It never would have had the sales it did in its initial volumes in the first place if not for the name attached to it. It's too niche. That's why Negi did 5toubun first.
>>288537306>when you thought jump is doing like shit>ENTER WSM
>>288535130>This is actually a certain someone’s reaction inside Jump’s HQ
>>288537326Now compare WSJ's sales to WSM, but don't include One Piece. Starts to look pretty fucking grim for Shueisha.
>>288537334Saito and his wife* after Kinato is almost outselling Shinobi despite the axe notice
>>288537347It has BL above everything and then jump starts annihilating it by having four titles before its second place?
>>288537326They are pretty fine with itAlso, they focus more on digital. Unlike WSJ, you can buy newest WSM chapter invidually without having to buy the entire magazine
>>288537365>Also, they focus more on digital.... which jump still leads since they have a shitton of digital sales for the whole magazine.
WSM is fine with bare titsWSJ is afraid of hand holding
>>288537361That's not the flex you think it is coming from what's supposed to be the most prestigious manga serialization in Japan. Especially when one of those series is Ruri, which barely puts out tankobon in the first place. The actual sales totals for WSM, disregarding One Piece, are frighteningly close to the sales totals from WSJ. The only real advantage WSJ has is its weekly magazine sales. And those, again, are primarily contingent on One Piece.
>>288537386>jump's handholding romcoms100k/volume>wsm's eternal cucking and tits romcom><40k
>>288537377you are missing the point
>Kinato vol 2 with Terasu We got this bros
>>288537396>Especially when one of those series is RuriI wasn't even counting ruri, dude, Ichi, right now, outsells SLF.>are frighteningly close to the sales totals from WSJ. It literally has 4-5 series that can pull 100k first month physical.WSM WISHES, hell, BL is on a super steep decline despite the constant anime seasons and at this rate kagurabachi will outsell it hard once the anime hits.
>>288537414Terasu profile in volume 2 is gonna go crazy
>>288537291You already pitched 5toubun against Bokuben. It doesn't work this way. >It absolutely isn't. It's a shōjo romance masquerading as spokon.It's a romcom, you just don't understand what romcom is by autistically translating it to "romantic comedy".>Manga sales are not the only metric by which is a series' success is measured. Kanokari is a multimedia monster. The sheer amount of money that series produces though merchandising and collaborations alone is guaranteed to topple any amount that Blue Box has managed to earn via only manga sales. And that's not even getting into the fact that the anime is somehow STILL successful. Kanokari absolutely fucking prints money.So you like cuckshit. That's just sad.>That said, I believe as of about a year ago it had 14 million copies in circulation. Suffice it to say Blue Box has not achieved that.How much is it per volume?
>>288537355Saito will dogeza at Kento and beg him to overwork to redraw the chapters
>>288537440>You already pitched 5toubun against Bokuben. It doesn't work this way. No argument. Lmao>So you like cuckshit. That's just sad. No argument. Goes straight to ad hominem.
>>288537440>You already pitched 5toubun against Bokuben. It doesn't work this way.Sure it does. You wanna talk about WSJ's romcoms being more successful than WSJ, but 5toubun is the most successful romcom manga in decades. It is impossible to ignore in any conversation about romcom manga. Especially when it's STILL making Kodansha so much money that it's getting an entirely new anime production based on its light novels. >It's a romcom, you just don't understand what romcom is by autistically translating it to "romantic comedy".Romcom is referred to as "rabu kome" in Japanese. That's "love comedy". Blue Box is by literally no metric a comedy manga. >So you like cuckshit. That's just sad.I'm really not a fan of it, personally. I don't understand why it's so successful. Reiji's other manga, Shiunji-ke, is much better. >How much is it per volume?Fuck if I know. Nowhere near as much as it used to be. The above post suggests around 30k per volume. But Blue Box is absolutely going to end before it ever catches Kanokari in sales, and will still never come close to touching it with regards to merchandising money.
>>288524078nomu mha if it dragon
If UD and Kinato keep going past 50, can we expect Kiyoshi to be eliminated?
>>288537526we need 5 more series being as successful as UD while Kiyoshi's sale dropping to 5k
please buy shinobigoto onegai
>>288537654Shinobikek lolKinato IS better
>>288537320You just have shit taste, simple as.
>>288537654>BorutoWhy is Ikemoto allowed to draw manga? He's genuinely talentless.
>>288537526Even if UD and Kinato don't drop the ball and manage to sell above the current axe line of 10k on their next volumes, Kiyoshi still has half of the magazine as potential cushions:>Sakamoto>Blue Box>Hima-ten>Witch Watch (maybe)>Roku>Basketball>Class 2B (if Sorachi keeps shitposting and submits every chapter late)>the 3 new manga which look like axebait just from the preview
>>288537675Hima-Ten is ending. Probably within like 3 chapters.
>>288537526Saito would kill those before Kiyoshi>>288537225Worse, Roboco shills other SHILLED manga. It sells like shit and the merch is so fucking gross nobody buys itThe worst thing is that shits like Roboco, Akane and Kiyoshi are the everyday until you like it meme, they can keep going on and on for years unless some serious eic remove that crap already
>>288537179This is just embarrassingAt least Gintama's gags were them parodying others not this PLEASE BUY THIS PLEASE
>>288537472Except that it doesn't work this way. Taking 1 Kodansha romcom hit pitching it against anything Shueisha has to offer wasn't the point of the discussion, you are moving goalposts. And you still lose to Kaguya-sama which is still Shueisha by the way.
>Saito planned to axe something that ended up selling more than Kiyoshi
>>288537179Genuine skill issue, shilling the stuff that have zero potential
Were you expecting Kinato and UD to perform this good or were you calling axebait ?
>>288537723If Kinato is axed next week than we will laugh at Saito
Boys you both have a peace treaty now.
>>288537723If you think about it The BOTTOM 1 this week sell more than than KIYOSHI the eternal top toc ranker lmao
>>288537751Lmao this is so stupid
I bought 5k Kinato volumesKinato....I love you....
>>288537737Based on reception alone it was performing better than average (AH too but axed before vol.1 so we will never know)Based on toc Kinato was the flopper but UD was doing “fine“
>>288537754>bottom 1 is on track to sell better than half of the magazineoh boy
>>288537751>that fucking finger pose
>>288537723Animal MHA need to live please
>>288537512>5toubun is the most successful romcom manga in decades.Why are you lying? The most successful romcom manga is Kaguya-sama. >Romcom is referred to as "rabu kome" in Japanese. That's "love comedy". Blue Box is by literally no metric a comedy manga.Being autistic about it won't do you any favors, since by your definition SxF has romance and comedy both, owning the fuck out of 5toubun.
>>288537737I still don't think UD is a good seriesHalf Blackjack, half Sakamoto—that, far from adding up to two, doesn't even amount to one
>>288537720Why are you responding to the obvious troll and not the person who was actually engaging you in the discussion in the first place? >>288537512And why are you moving the goalposts? This was meant to be about WSM vs WSJ. I only mentioned Kodansha because that's who makes money off of 5toubun. Obviously Shueisha has been doing a bit better with romcoms outside of WSJ, which don't have to deal with the same level of restrictions that they've unnecessarily placed on WSJ in recent years. I'm a massive Hyakkanofag, so you'll never hear me argue that Shueisha on the whole is incapable of serializing good romcoms. The problem is that WSJ (and Shueisha, since you want to bring them into this as a whole) has moved too far away from the foundation that made its romcoms successful in the first place. 10 years ago Hyakkano could have been serialized in WSJ and no one would have batted an eye. If it were published in WSM, it could be even more degenerate than it already is. Yet there's no way it would fly in the current WSJ landscape, and that's the fucking problem. WSJ editorial have become tremendous pussies when it comes to what they allow in their magazine.
>>288537737>>288537772AH it's a really weird case where they didn't bother to advertise it at all. Sure it could have been axed by chapter 30 but the thing is they didn't even TRY to fix it or tell others it exists, and we don't even know how well it's volume will sell because it was delayed for a month I still think the author has potential and I will buyering the volume if it's possibleI trust Roku survives onegai shimasu
>>288537751>this is for Ouga!
Saito and Nakano fighting for the worst EIC of all time
>>288537847The fact that they wasted lookism in some batch netflix anime is so retarded. By now it should have like 4 seasons of action
>>288537795>Why are you lying? The most successful romcom manga is Kaguya-sama.Kaguya-sana barely outsold 5toubun while having twice the number of volumes, and hasn't been anywhere near as successful in terms of multimedia. 5toubun has visual novels, light novels, and cranked out more merchandise than any romcom manga since To Love Ru: all while having the benefit if getting to release that merchandise five-fold because everyone wanted matching sets. Tankobon sales are not, and have never been the only metric by which a series' success is measured. 5toubun was far more successful than Kaguya, and would have outsold it even in terms of just manga by simply being two volumes longer. >Being autistic about it won't do you any favors, since by your definition SxF has romance and comedy both, owning the fuck out of 5toubun.It's the name of the fucking genre. It's not autistic to point out that Blue Box is a different genre with an entirely different audience. The people reading it are not the people who were reading Nisekoi and Bokuben. It's primarily popular with women and fujoshi.
>>288537847Lmaooo
>>288537847Respect Nakano please his only error was axing MMYY and thinking every series after would sell more
>>288537873>axing MMYY Right call, it was schizophrenic and both characters and plot were shit.
>>288537873Mayu would unironically be a 30k seller at this point in time and would probably coast on the kgb hype
nakano has done nothing wrong throughout his regime, most of the authors were simply too shit
>>288537770Kinato would have have been u19 without AH to act as a cushion
>>288537835AH got treated really dirty and I don’t know why
>>288537835Saito feared another battle shounenJust look at how he is preparing the axe for Kinato already (who is just training to become stronger)
Hayashi back in jump by 2027 TRUST.His paneling was the best thing jump had in years
>>288537894Yeah, it was a really shitty way to treat Inui. It didn't deserve that but it's not the first time Saito is disrespectful. >>288537902So Saito wants romcoms and gags I suppose then, still you don't need to bury and bully someone like this
>>288537885If the second volume does worse it usually gets axed. Discrepency with volume 1 is due to low initial print run. Don't know how many series in jump bucked that trend but mmy wasn't one of them. It's not really a surprise it got axed. Doesn't matter how well the first volume sells it's meaningless if it's trending down with every subsequent volume.
Kinato can keep up the momentum The story is actually setting up to be big, Kinato's training to be more active in the fights, Terasu being cute and genuine, Linae feeling being explored and the world slowly but surely being built (old capital ? Capital of what ?As long as it doesn't pull out bullshit like another organization, aliens, long forgotten little sisters it can be good
>>288537737I expected both of them to do around 5-10k. UD because of color page at ch 10 and it's a better series than Harukaze. Kinato because there's no fucking way it's selling less than Shadow Eliminators. That shit was terrible and still did 5k. Honestly with stock issues my expectations might still end up being true.
>>288537894You need to be mindful of the order in batch.The third one is like a disposable assassin, no expectations, no support.
>>288537858>Kaguya-sana barely outsold 5toubun while having twice the number of volumes, and hasn't been anywhere near as successful in terms of multimedia. 5toubun has visual novels, light novels, and cranked out more merchandise than any romcom manga since To Love Ru: all while having the benefit if getting to release that merchandise five-fold because everyone wanted matching sets. Tankobon sales are not, and have never been the only metric by which a series' success is measured. 5toubun was far more successful than Kaguya, and would have outsold it even in terms of just manga by simply being two volumes longer.And oshi no ko raped 5toubun by any metric of popularity.>It's the name of the fucking genre. It's not autistic to point out that Blue Box is a different genre with an entirely different audience. The people reading it are not the people who were reading Nisekoi and Bokuben. It's primarily popular with women and fujoshi.Same people read SxF as those who read 5toubun.
>>288537980surely it will get a color page before volume 2 comes out
>>288537980If it becomes a fight manga is gonna get axed.
>>288537986How true is this statement?Here's a pic for reference
>>288537997It still has pic related, tell me it doesn't have potential
>>288538016>gets sidelined for new girls
>>288537987>And oshi no ko raped 5toubun by any metric of popularity.If "sold about 20% more volumes" is what you consider "raped", then sure. Even though the per-volume sales between the series are pretty comparable. But yes, Oshi no Ko was more successful in terms of sales. It seems to do pretty well with regards to merchandising as well, although not as well as 5toubun did if the actual amount of merchandise is any indication. It is also neither a romcom manga, nor a WSJ manga. So go ahead and keep moving those goalposts. >Same people read SxF as those who read 5toubun.Not a WSJ manga. Though I would argue it's a romcom. At the very least that's one of the main genres it occupies. Maybe they should have serialized it in WSJ? But I'm pretty confident Endo couldn't handle it, given that his current schedule is already obviously a challenge to maintain. Now with that all out of the way, and seeing as you've mentioned Kaguya-sama, Oshi no Ko, and SxF: would you actually care to mention a manga from WSJ, or are you just content to keep ignoring that the magazine itself vs WSM was the core premise of this discussion from the get go? Because you just keep conceding ground while bringing up shit that has absolutely nothing to do with that premise.
>>288538001Let’s take a look at batches consisting of three or more.The first one is definitely the priority slot.The third one (or the fourth,) is the slot for leftovers.
>>288538080>destroyerz
>>288538084Yeah, it's an anomaly
>>288538059I might be biased here but ig 5toubun got a decent anime adaptation I'm pretty sure it'd sold way more. S1 was a joke.>>288535130>8. Under Doctor 1This way better than I would've ever expected since I actually didn't expect anything. Dropped UD on chapter 2 as it didn't really seem interesting. Even if it's not the biggest month in term of releases, it's still tracking to do at least 15k which by modern jump is massive for a rookie and it could be way higher still. I guess either the shilling is working or there's something I'm missing.Kinato is also doing pretty decently, though I'm not really a fan of Kinato either. The material for vol 1 is pretty good so, even though I dropped it soon after I'm sure vol 2 is gonna grow even more.Saito might get a win here, surprisingly enough.
YOUNG JUMP, JUMP+ PLEASE SAVE UUUUUUUSSSSSSSSS
>>288538059You're being intellectually dishonest here. Each magazine has not only its own demographic which overlap, but also readership/fans which they tend to distinguish as much as possible to fill a niche not filled by other magazines which is still popular. Shueisha has a lot of magazines under its belt, you are crying that they make an emphasis on something which WSJ specializes at (action manga) so they put manga outside of their target, such as romcoms, elsewhere still under their belt. WSM specializes in romcoms, it did not have any successful action manga in ages aside from BL since FF/TR ended. How about you stop being a fucking pussy and start comparing genres both magazines focus at?
>>288538193>Shueisha has a lot of magazines under its beltIf you're using this point Slime under Kodansha is raping every battle shounen from Jump aside from One Piece.
>>288538216Nah, it loses to a lot of Jump battle shounen like Dragonball, Naruto, KnY, MHA, JJK etc.
>>288537987GoTubon best year>>Oshi no ko best year
>>288538193>bunch of non sequitur bullshit to continue evading the original point of the discussion, which was very plainly established as "WSJ (as a magazine) no longer serializes the kind is romcoms it used to, and it's newer attempts at the genre have achieved less success as a result"I accept your concession.
>>288538084It was supposed to be Destroyerz, Roku, and Drawn to the Fire in that order, common sense doesn't apply to Sorachi sensei
>>288538258ESL...
>>288538216Slime at best is just 500k seller. That's barely MHA level
>>288538258Keep moving the goalposts, buddy. Does your lack of reading comprehension prevent you from understanding you've been proven wrong?
>>288538285The goalposts were established from the start. You're the only one who moved them. Your concession tastes delicious.
>>288538258>>288538323The original point of the discussion is intellectually dishonest. Yes, WSJ has another focus, they don't pay attention to romcoms anymore, which is a good thing. They publish romcoms either for more mature audience or for different one (women), so these fall under different magazines still under Shueisha.Kodansha, on the other hand, absolutely falls flat on the most popular and relevant shonen demographic genre, which is battle/action manga. It loses spectacularly. Cry about it.
>>288538323You might want to learn English first, buddy.
>>288538323Do you have short-term memory loss, retard? This is what started the discussion >>288536919>WSM has better fightan shit than WSJYou tried to move the goalposts from battle to romcoms, then when someone took your bait and replied >>288537027 >Yeah, instead they publish romcoms that obliterate what WSM has to offer sales wise.which corresponds to the current time, you started digging for shit which ended 6 years ago. What's even more hilarious, that you seem to believe that unironically, failing to comprehend what people keep telling you.
I think I'm lost. Why are Oshi no Ko and Kaguya in discussion when it's WSJ vs WSM
Friendly reminder, Chiikawa outsells KGB
>>288538516Idk why are we talking about romcoms either, the point was WSM having better battle shonen than than WSJ.
>>288538537Which is doesn't so it's a moot point anyway.
>>288538595Yeah that WSM shill faggot was retarded.
>>288538598Where is this faggot who has been saying Saito shills the weakest manga in the batch?
The New Prince of Tennis by Takeshi Konomi will be ending with Volume 48, according to the latest author's afterword.
>It’s 95% because of scalpers/resellers. Real fans don't even make up 5% of it. >Why? Because the reselling group I'm a part of is currently holding a 'hype/price-jacking festival' for Andoku. Everyone is dead serious.What the hell is happening with doctor
>>288537190>>288537225Why would they ranke their best titles in the bottom half? That's reserved for garbage axebait flops like Kaguramidshit, Shitnobi, Kiyoshit, Himaturd or Nue's Exorshit.
>>288538675People are trolling saito.See it crash during vol 2.
We all know Saito will dust Kinato next week despite outselling Kiyoshi
>>288538598This seems to be the most striking example recently of a disconnect between online buzz and actual sales.Stock buyback? Meme coin? A uniquely Japanese phenomenon?
>hori obi doesn't mean anything>hori obi has negative effect on his assistantsTo>hori obi is the only reason why UD is selling>hori obi is the reason why scalpers are buying
>>288537190Sakamoto is Literally the best selling IP from WSJ asides from OP, shit was on the top 20 yearly Oricon last year what are you talking about?
>>288538660he's coping about shueisha/scalpers buying the copies>>288538693sometimes 4chan popularity does not equal to normalfag popularity. take sakamoto, discussion is completely dead here but it still has good oricon showings.>>288538689If it was on the chopping block it would've been gone before AH.
>>288538722>shit was on the top 20 yearly Oricon last year what are you talking about?Like blue box dude.
>>288538722Yeah? And it's ending. Why not put it on the 7th to 9th placing?
>>288538728SD was above tho Even currently despite the SHIT anime it’s still stream rolling the whole mag bar OP
>>288535130Watch saito axe kinato and keep kyoshit despite the better results.
>>288538725SD is a big name that actually had a real peak for a certain period of time, isn't that an inappropriate point of comparison?
Oricon status?
>>288538761>When papa Oda makes sure to remove the competition Damn this just hurts to watchWhy can't they accept Kiyoshi is not popular? Just end it and try again
>>288535971It has good character design, which automatically puts him above 95% of other modern series.
Kinato is still very meh btw
>>288538800It barely gets any fanart
>>288538814>LE FANARTTTTTTTDude this shoseki performance completely blows your cope out of the water. Give it a rest
>>288538800His hair is too big, it looks ridiculous
i want to pull up some of the UD slander from archives but i'm too lazy. I wonder if the pretend doctor anon is still here.I know the faggot who hates redhood /otr is the anon going full copium in this thread.
>>288537675Roku will LIVE
>>288538814Looking at Pixiv, the number of Kinato fan art submissions is more than double that of UD
>>288538862what does UD being a surprise debutant have anything to do with kawaguturd being unable to make anything remotely readable?
>copiumYou can quit projecting at any time.
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>himaten ending next week>akanebanashi, blue box, witch watch and sakamoto days ending soonI fear Kyoshi will survive for quite some time...
Roku has some good lewd fan art. Rokubros must have jerked off to it countless times.
>>288538937Why even bother >>288538594
>>288538889Everyone is his boogeyman please understand.
>>288538937kill yourself
>>288538956>>288538961
>>288538889Praising anything UD get you called being a Kawaguschizo (or the opposite idk).Look up the archive.
>>288538956actually, kill yourself more, 40 minutes of spamming a new thread with shitty ai pics, have some shame
>>288538892>you can quit projecting at anytimeYes, because UD projecting to sell 20k is somehow bad now.
>>288539022???Retardbro, you are absolutely confused.
>>288524054You made a thread at 450 posts to escape, you got gaped in this thread and ud outsold your favorite axebait.
>>288539142>ud outsold your favourite axebaitWow, 2/3 of the last batch i like did well. This is somehow bad for me.
