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Why was Frieza so early in the series? Seems out of balance to have the androids be so OP. Also the plot devices in android saga are annoying af
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>>288528763
>so early
>Goku has already gathered all the dragon balls twice, wiped out the neo-nazis, trained under god, killed the demon king, defeated the second coming of the demon king, been declared the world champion, thwarted an alien invasion, and trained under space god to learn how to harness the very life essemce of the planet and everything on it
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>>288528838
If you put it like that, the androids just look completely out of place lol.
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>>288528763
>androids
Canon filler
only buu is canon
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>>288528954
Interesting I skipped garlic jr because it made no fucking sense but I really liked the Android/Cell saga I just feel like it was a bit unbalanced and out of place in the grand scheme of it
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>>288528763
Because Toriyama was making shit up as he went
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>>288528763
By Toriyama's own admission, Frieza was only created because Vegeta became unexpectedly popular, so he needed a new villain to kill off in Vegeta's place.

So by retconning Vegeta into a slave of a more powerful and more evil villain, he becomes more sympathetic and redeemable.
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>>288528763
The answer to any such question is always the same. Toriyama got off the couch and scribbled the next chapter in like 2 days with little to no future planning.
And for the most part it just worked.
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>>288528763
Yeah it was written with children in mind. They don't care about stuff like that.
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Dragon ball success is just proof that planning is overrated. It also helps that Toriyama wrote dragon ball in a way where he could end it at any moment, it doesn’t have a long running plot. A lot of arcs are self contained
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>>288528763
The cyborgs beinng stronger than frieza is so fucking gay and stupid that I refuse to accept it and I banned it from my headcanon.
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>>288528763
>to have the androids be so OP
He was inspired by the Terminator. You know, guy comes back in time, fights robots. But he was told that it was pretty boring, so he killed them off and replaced them for what he thought were cooler androids. But he was told they were still boring, so he did a guy that looks like the monster from Alien.

I believe
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>>288528954
If it's filler, then Kuririn wouldn't have gotten married and Goku wouldn't be dead at the start of the Buu saga, because that's how fillers work.
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>>288528763
the galaxy brain meme of dragonball is thinking toriyama is a once in a generation talented genius,
then realizing he was a lazy bum who barely cared about dragonball and just wanted to play with his models,
and then realizing he was a genius lazy bum who shit out a better product then 99.9999999% of artists on this planet
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>>288533076
Why do you /dbs/pics always overstate matters
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>>288531067
unlimited energy, dummy
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>>288534035
>>288531067
I always reason things out with the saiyans and Freiza ending up underestimating the androids. Hell Freiza underestimated the saiyans too so its not far fetched he will end up defeated by the androids who are clearly way past SSJ power levels.
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>>288528954
this
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>>288533914
its too easy to ignore them if they don't
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>>288531067
this
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>>288532249
>Kuririn wouldn't have gotten married
It isn't relevant to the buu arc at large.

>Goku wouldn't be dead
He functionally isn't. He's in the story at the start when it's relevant, leaves when he wants the kids to do things, and returns when shit hits the fan. Him being dead literally doesn't make a difference to the story.
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>>288528763
Android 8 appeared way earlier.
Red Ribbon Army making a come back after Goku became an adult and SSJ was kino.

Imagine if Pilaf ever came back and became a real threat



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