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Good old days.
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Is that an enchanted sword in your pants or are you just happy to see me?
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>>288550068
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Suprise Juice in Tomo chan, ep 11 at 13:45
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>>288550368
Roy ate it again.
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>>288550368
So this is why we stopped having chapters...
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S-SUBARU???? MY HERO? MY HUSBAND??? You’re going to IMPREGNATE my sister? You’re going to jackhammer HER MAID PUSSY?! You’re going to shoot FAT ROPES in my sister’s Oni GODwomb?!?
MY sister, who I was ALWAYS jealous of while we were growing up, is taking your SAGE CANDIDATE COCK and NOT me??? Then, I, REM, maid in service of Margrave Roswaal L. Mathers, have to RAISE my husband’s girlfriend’s daughter????
YABBA DABBA DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>288550368
Roy, you’re being very gluttonous.
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>>288550474
I really don't mind the content of your posts, but could you please not use AI?
K thx byeeee
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>yes one of us lost our memories
>the only person capable of doing this is our enemy who is the reason we all are here
>anyway let's not think about this and leave the now amnesiac person on his own in this tower where he can die if he goes to a wrong door lmao
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The Japanese have spoken on nicolive. The ratings get worse and worse.
Kadokawa in panic mode!
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>>288550375
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>>288550474
I really don't mind the content of your posts, but could you please use more AI?
K thx byeeee
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>>288550601
Did they warn him about not walking into the room where some asshole might kill him if he's feeling bored?
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>>288550788
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otto will save us
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Rank the lolis in rezero
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Oni
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GOD
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>>288550068
Holy fuck
Subaru is so lucky...
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>>288550028
Best girl
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>>288551122
NICE DIGITS
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>>288551091
beako > meili > petra > tanza > spica
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Ram has cooked you a potato.
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Ram mating press
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>>288550601
It's very realistic, people are dumber than you may think.
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>>288551201
Where has that potato been?
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>>288551091
In terms of pure cunny
Typhon > Meili > Beatrice > Petra > Pandora > Felt > Tanza > Daphne > Ryuzu > Lolimilia > Utakata > Capella > Rafiel > Mimi > Plum > Tina
I don't believe I missed anyone, did I?
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>>288551343
Fuark I forgot our favorite retard Spica and Rui. Spica is between Meili and Beatrice, Rui is between Tanza and Daphne.
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>>288551257
Ram keeps potatoes and her wand underneath her dress, and for Rem it's her morningstar.
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>>288551343
>Cunny
>Capella
???
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Ram tongue kissing
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>>288551373
She's a loli, in the same way someone like megumin is a loli.
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>>288551534
so not a loli
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oniisan, do you think meili is tight?
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Ram’s cunt is tight as a noose. Made to milk seed for her OniGOD womb. Meili’s pussy has been used by mabeasts
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>>288551825
its me, im the mabeast
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>>288551825
Rem (to a lesser extent) carries the Onigod genetics too, since they're twins.
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>>288551864
Hello mabeast. How are you
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>>288550368
Me when Petra
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>>288550368
is this the series language or something? coleean?
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>>288551553
The Ticklebowel Hunter.
She gives your belly the wiggles.
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Wouldn't Roswaal be more powerful in the body of a half-oni from prodigal bloodline? Makes you wonder what how his body swap with Ram's son will go over and what he does with Ram after.

By the way, why did they retcon the Warlock to not have present-day Roswaal's verbal tic? It was implied that Roswaal picked it up from Hector, but now that's erased from canon.
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>>288552242
Roswaal wouldn't use Soul Transcription on Ram's child because he's developed feelings for her on the same level as Echidna as of Arc 8.
Ram has been gradually wearing him down and he's slowly starting to change.
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What's the dumbest or just a very dumb theory you have seen?
For me it would be That Shaula(Witchbeast) appearance was based on Flugel's Rem and was one of the first failed cloning experiments, Flugel resented himself and the result for this so much he never showed her affection and left her in the tower because he couldn't stomach it.
Which would be based on the fact that In Vanity/School IF Shaula shares the same status as Rem as Subaru's "childhood friend" and for a moment sharing a similar backstory event, only for it to be corrected and said that it instead belongs to Rem.
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ram pregnant
with barusu's child
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>>288551685
You just don't get it, I suppose
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>>288552242
>Ram has been gradually wearing him down and he's slowly starting to change
And if Roswaal is faking it?
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>>288552317
>>288552392
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I find all of Satella's numerous bullshit powers except RBD just being "she's really good at Yin magic bro" to be kinda stupid.
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>>288552392
>>288552402
Beako noticed it, and she knows Roswaal the best.
>Beatrice: “The cause of your hesitation, is it related to Mother, I suppose?”
>Roswaal: “…Am I that easy to read?”
>Beatrice: “Only matters related to Mother can upset you so much, in fact. Also, more recently, about Ram, I suppose.”
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>>288552127
Finally a counter for the Witch of Tristitia
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>>288552341
This.
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Wasn't Roswaal pregnant himself?
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>>288552428
Is Tappei seriously trying to do a Roswaal redemption arc? When he's not sorry about what he did and will kill everyone to make Subaru reset if he fucks up too hard?
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>>288552546
I genuinely fucking hope Tappei kills off
Roswaal. He’s the Epstein of Lugunica
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if beatrice didn't have a pact with subaru, who would be the best fit for her?
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>>288552546
Also in the Sasageru IF route, it stated that Roswaal spent the rest of his live with his loved ones and didn't have any descendants. Ram was braindead or bedridden from Al's territory so giving birth would have most likely killed her. So Roswaal spends the rest of his life taking care of Ram and he never tries to extend his lineage with anyone.
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>>288552546
His endgame is to be stuck on Annerose body and be lolimanced by Subaru
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>>288552565
Tappei said in Q&A that not even Reinhard could be that person for her. It's always been Subaru, even Echidna hinted at it in Greed IF. Also the fact that they both share the same Yin attribute, like Puck and Eridna with Emilia and Anastasia having Fire and Yang.
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Do not disrespect Roswaal-sama.
He is the greatest.
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>>288552546
Roswaal is redeemable though, unlike that black-haired monster bitch.
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>>288552688
Roswaal would immediately hire an army of assassins to slaughter everyone Subaru loves if he got his book back and was ordered by it to do so.

And Elsa will be one of those assassins, have some faith.
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>>288552688
Would you consider Elsa redeemable if she kills Capella with Roy? They are her 'children', after all.
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>>288552688
She had a fucked up childhood and Roswaal was just a simp
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>>288552657
TOTAL CLOWN DEATH
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>Priscilla fought and killed Alderbarron 1k times

Anime only here, why the fuck is AL her body guard if she's stronger than him?
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>>288552806
Because he's basically impossible to kill.
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>>288552806
Same way that Subaru is the MC being one of the weakest characters in the verse and still winning every conflict in the end.
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>>288552806
Is Priscilla insane? I heard she murdered him hundreds of times in a side story just because he argued against her.
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>>288552860
Yes, she knows Al and Subaru have Authorities and is doing it on purpose to let Al know that he can't change her decision.
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>>288552907
I see I was right to never like her. No wonder Aldebaran is so whipped
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>>288552845
yeah but that only makes sense to the reader because we know he has RBD.

If I hired someone to be my personal security guard, I would want them to be a better fighter than me.
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I decided to start reading the wn this BITCH is a bigger rape baiter than Meili
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>>288552985
It’s her stupid plan to make Subaru try and kill her to make him think he’s a different person so she can possess him.
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i have been watching this but i stopped caring. sorry. the library plot is dumb
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>>288552968
Al can fight and beat pretty much everyone if he really wants to
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>>288550028
An earth dragon flew over my house!
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>>288553073
What if he gets frozen in less than a fraction of a second, keeping him alive and preventing him from killing himself? Than what?
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>>288552428
Beatrice has been wrong about a lot of things.

>>288552546
No, he's convincing the audience. Roswaal is playing the long game.
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>>288553123
then hes fucked
thats why hes scared of emilia
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>>288553136
Well, she's not wrong about something this time. Roswaal goes through character development during Arc 9, and we can see the result of it during Sasageru IF. Refer to >>288552584
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Why didn't Al use his autority to get laid
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>>288553123
Look how he is dressed, he would die of hypothermia in like 10 seconds
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>>288552546
Actually, as a correction, Roswaal technically has nothing to be sorry about. Nobody died in Arc 4 and, in actuality, everybody improved from it. Before that, years prior, he saved Rem/Ram, gave Ram what she needed to survive Arc 6.

He 'says' the goal of Arc 4 was to revive the witch, but that contradicts his multi-year foresight into giving Ram what she needed to fight Gluttony during Arc 6. Other events after Arc 4 are also byproducts of Roswaal's planning. In other words, the events after Arc 4 are still going according to whatever plans Roswaal really has. He 'says' he was following the gospel. Why trust a clown?

Roswaal has low key been carrying the group from behind the scenes from Arc1 when he hired Elsa before Subaru even arrived into the world as a means to tether the RBD wielder onto his faction.

It's not a "Roswaal redemption arc" its a "Roswaal did nothing wrong, and has been playing a long game from the very beginning". That said, he's not going to just decide, after 400 years, to yield immortality. Ram loves Roswaal because he fed her mana and saved her life. But he would have known that would have happened before doing either of those things. So Ram loving him is also a part of his plans.

As for as Echnida goes, she's quaint, but was a 24 year old Witch who died young. Not very impressive compared to a mage who's been plotting something for four centuries. Echnida, being a young girl who wasn't cunning enough to not die, is ignorant of many things. Among them, her assessment of Roswaal.
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>>288552726
How did she learn to fight
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>>288553073
Except Priscilla apparrently
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why didn't roswaal or clind warn anyone about the tower being a fucking shithole deathtrap?
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>>288553281
He could've beaten her into submission but he respects women
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>>288553186
>goes through character development
Into what from what?
see
>>288553246
What does he have to develop on?
>Ram loves Roswaal because he fed her mana and saved her life. But he would have known that would have happened before doing either of those things. So Ram loving him is also a part of his plans.

His relationship with Ram is all according to keikaku. Ram would not trust Roswaal to bear a son without all of this happening. Why have Ram bear a son?
See >>288552242


Listen, all I'm saying is this:
Arcs 1-3 had many characters and the narration itself telling you Roswaal's personality was X and you believed it.
>this time for sure
If you say so
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>>288553287
Same reason Roswaal didn't warn them about what was going to happen in Arc 5, if he solves the problems for Subaru/Emilia et al then they don't improve/grow.

At the same time, people who say that Roswaal isn't up to something are making an amazing mental leap that Roswaal just "happens" to be busy when he's needed. Subaru forms an alliance with him after Arc 4 and then Roswaal still sits in the back observing.
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>>288553246
I very much disagree on the idea that Roswaal doesn't want to revive echidna, both his past and his own words to Subaru alone show this, thinking that he's lying is far-fetched at best. And sure, he technically didn't get anyone killed, but he's constantly put their lives in jeopardy and willingly allowed an entire race to almost go extinct except for the two members that are of use to him. The only reason why the others died is that Subaru just so happened to always do the right thing, and Roswaal is aware that he has gotten everyone but Subaru killed numerous times only for time to rewind back because of Subaru. And in fact his plans is what got Rem eaten, because Subaru and Rem would have never gotten involved with the white whale and gluttony if not for them having to do it as a favor for Crusch.

Everything he's done was for his own selfish reasons entirely, and there's no indication arcs 6 has anything to do with his plan, that's completely out of his hands. Roswaal's plans were all just orders from Echidna's book, nothing much by his own intelligence.
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>>288553479
*why the other's didn't die
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can we post more evil rems like in the last thread?
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>>288553287
Aside from Shaula sniping, the tower had little danger that Clind should know about, gluttony wasn't supposed to be there, that was an anomaly.
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>>288553479
Dude is a 400 years old mage with a vast amount of knowledge and a book that tells the future and he still lost a bet to a highschooler.
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>>288553538
He lost a bet to a time traveler who was saved from Echidna's schemes by the other witches
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>>288553564
>He lost a bet to a time traveler
yeah no
He did not use rbd after making the bet that's was the whole point, had subaru died after that he would have lost the bet.
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>>288553533
should he not know that half the floors are basically impossible? or that the tower is literally useless and they are on a wild goose chase for no reason?
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>>288553538
Subaru winning Arc 4 gives Roswaal everything he needs: a soul-bound RBD user, timeline security, Emilia's path to the throne, the list goes on.

All according to plan for Roswaal.
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>>288550474
I really mind the content of your posts, could you please not try and copy Tanza anon?
K thx byeeee
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>>288553586
>should he not know that half the floors are basically impossible?
It depends on Subaru's connection to Flugel and how much Clind knows about it, he might be aware that Subaru should have the sufficient knowledge on solving the first puzzle, and Reid/Volcanica isn't impossible since emilia beat them both.

And maybe he thought the books would be of some use and it couldn't hurt to try. Either way, it's a stretch to say Roswaal is behind everything even after arc 4, because what would his plan for arc 6 even be? He wouldn't know about gluttony.
>>288553579
Subaru didn't use RBD after that because he time traveled some many times before that. He learned all the info required to win and just needed help from his friends to get his mind straight.
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>>288553623
He seemed pretty happy on Greed if
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>>288553623
He also lost his book which he relied on to the point of obsession. He didn't go nuclear because he and Subaru have a deal, but this is clearly not his ideal outcome, that would be Greed IF.
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If ram truly cares about subaru, why does she start treating him differently in greed if when roswaal respects him
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>>288553636
im not saying it was his part of his plan, i just think its dumb they let them waste so much time doing literally nothing
clinds reveal just feels retarded to me, and part of that is the entire existence of arc 6
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>>288553651
>which he relied on to the point of obsession.
According to Roswaal, who is untrustworthy and capable of performing emotions.
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>>288552127

> be me
> Subaru Natsuki
> professional sufferer
> currently receiving divine Emilia lap pillow therapy
> head on soft holy thighs
> all trauma leaving the body
> depression cancelled
> Rem who?
> my life is finally healing

>[Emilia: “You worked really hard, Subaru.”]

> oh my god
> she said the line
> heart rate critical
> brain turning into pudding
> this is the good route
> this is the timeline where God apologized
> close eyes for 0.2 seconds
> feel safe
> feel warm
> feel loved
> feel a hand touch my belly

> [Subaru: huh?]

> not Emilia’s hand
> wrong temperature
> wrong aura
> evil manicure detected

> [???: “My, my. What a soft little belly you have~”]

> [Subaru: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!]

> Survival instincts activate
> Elsa
> The Ticklebowel Hunter
> The Abdomen Assassin
> The Sides Destroyer

> [Elsa: “Coochie coochie coo!”]

> Elsa wiggles her fingers
> NO NO NO NO NO
> NOT THE BELLY
> ANYWHERE BUT THE BELLY
> start wriggling like a wounded caterpillar
> Emilia is right there...
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>>288553725

> ...EMILIA-TAN DON’T LOOK
> PLEASE AVERT YOUR HOLY AMETHYST EYES
> THIS ISN’T PART OF THE DATE EVENT

>[Emilia: “Subaru? Are you okay?”]

> I’M FINE
> I’M NORMAL
> I’M A KNIGHT
> I'M NOT TICKLISH
> THAT'S WHAT A KNIGHT SOUND LIKE

> Elsa touches belly again
> the tickles return
> not regular tickles
> witch cult tickles
> SHE’S GIVING MY BELLY THE WIGGLES

> [Elsa: “Tickle tickle tickle!”]

> EMILIA PLEASE DON’T WATCH
> I CAN STILL BE COOL
> I CAN STILL BE YOUR HERO
> IGNORE THE NOISES
> THOSE ARE BATTLE CRIES

> [EMILIA: "Subaru is a veeeery good boy..."]

> She gently pets my hair to calm me down
> this makes it worse
> humiliation damage doubled
> Elsa crits the belly button
> vision goes white
> hear Satella whisper “I love you”
> hear Roswaal saying “all according to my teacher design”
> hears Ram call me a pervert.
> die instantly from tummy-based psychological damage

> RETURN BY DEATH

> RE EH EEEEEEEH~
> open eyes
> head on Emilia’s lap
> same soft thighs
> same holy warmth
> same peaceful smile

>[Emilia: “You worked really hard, Subaru.]”

> feel safe
> feel warm
> feel loved
> feel a hand touch my belly

>[???: “My, my. What a soft little belly you have~”]

>[Subaru: AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!]
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>>288553709
So is he trying to deceive the audience in here?
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>>288553745
Anime isn't canon.
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>>288553709
Unless you think Roswaal losing his mind when the book burned and almost killed Ram over it, and everything shown in his past and every single conversation he's had with everyone is completely false and he's lying about the book and reviving echidna being what he cares about the most for some random reason, then I think you're incorrect.
>>288553678
Yeah, I don't really get why that's a thing, but Tappei constantly has characters who know too much and should logically answer many questions we have but either disappear for some reason or just don't feel like talking about it.
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>>288553784
Is this not in the ln? I believe it's in the manga which is fairly accurate to it.
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>>288553785
>Roswaal losing his mind when the book burned and almost killed Ram over it
Anime isn't canon. And the under budget anime adaptation got many, many obvious things wrong. It's not going to get subtle things right.
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>>288553808
Is that not in the ln? How did he react in that case that indicates this is what he wants, or he can at least work with it?
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>>288551534
At that point you need to include Liliana and Madelyn
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>>288549988
>yes every character is actually a wholesome chungus, even the most genocidal
TRUE VILLAIN WHERE
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Ram leg lock
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Rem leg lock
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>>288553935
You're right. Madelyn and Liliana are above Rafiel.
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>>288554004
Rem gets to sit in the CVCK chair while Subaru breeds Ram
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>>288553950
Literally irredeemable.
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>>288551427
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>>288553950
Haven't you been paying attention?
he's been there the whole time
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>>288552242
He's not planning on continuing from here. If he was he probably would've already knocked up Ram to have his body going as a backup. He can possess Annerose with some complication, but that's more of a 'everything fucked up but I do need to tell someone something' thing. He thinks this is his last life.
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>>288552516
Yes. Multiple times.
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>>288554032
Housewife in the good timeline.
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>>288553950
Rem
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>>288552516
Yes. Dudes a fucking gaywad. Roswaal NEEDS to die
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>>288553246
>So Ram loving him is also a part of his plans.
It really wasn't
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>>288554038
What does a kiss feel like?
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>>288553863
Yes, that's in the WN/LN/Manga/Anime/game/whatever. He loses his shit and nukes Ram purely emotionally, then totally breaks down, starts begging for Ram to be somewhere/attend him because as his brain is frying he's trying to desperately remember what the book had said. Ram is part of the book, he realizes he nuked her, so he shuts himself down to focus entirely on trying to heal her the only way he can, which is to force mana into her head and hope her oni resilience/regeneration saves her because he's incapable of healing magic.
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>>288553950
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>>288554039
unkillable person who's being led to unseal literal satan, from any other perspective he's the villain
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>>288554288
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What if Felt sexo?
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>>288554288
Also as far as his intentions are concerned, despite him talking shit to Ram about it, he's not planning on sacrificing her in whatever it is he needs her for. He seems to think Ram is supposed to survive him and she's going to be his legacy/he'll leave everything to her after he succeeds and then dies/fades away.
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Browsing around X and then...
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>>288552516
As much as I look sideways at Ram's choice of men female Roswaal is way too powerful. I guess I kinda get it.
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Ram is cool
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>>288554475
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>>288554333
Always has been.
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>>288554520
Thief!
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>Otto came to the tower
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>>288554288
>WN
Not as it's shown. But in either case, none of this contradicts the idea that Roswaal never wanted to "win" Arc4. "Winning" the wager against Subaru would have been a horrible outcome for Roswaal, because his play at kingmaker would have been in ruin because how exactly does he proceed politically for the revival of a Witch? If he instead achieves this far later after Emilia is made queen, then that's a completely different outcome. Meanwhile, if Emilia didn't confront her past properly then she'd still be useless as a candidate.

>400 years of planning so that he can fuck his teacher?
This doesn't make sense for someone who's had dozens of wives, sons, daughters, families, etc over centuries.
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>>288554693
>Not as it's shown.
Yes it is.
>how exactly does he proceed politically for the revival of a Witch?
He wants to kill the dragon. Its not for revenge, somehow this gets him what he wants. The dragon will need to appear and I suppose be vulnerable when the contract is being set up. Or that's the best guess anyone has, he's not been very open with his plan besides telling Ram he needs the dragon dead.
>Meanwhile, if Emilia didn't confront her past properly then she'd still be useless as a candidate.
Yes, that was the plan. Even though he still loses in the Greed IF he's much happier because Subaru is the correct tool he needs. Emilia is beyond useless and mindbroken, aside from attacking people randomly when they talk to Subaru she otherwise won't even breathe without his permission. Emilia succeeding at anything is not core to his plan. In fact he assumes she will fail and cause snow to fall, but in case she doesn't he had a backup plan to force it.

>This doesn't make sense for someone who's had dozens of wives, sons, daughters, families, etc over centuries.
Yes, because that's a simplistic meme assumption of what he wants. He doesn't want that, he doesn't think he's worthy of that. He just wants her alive, he doesn't expect to be rewarded with sex or anything, he expects to get nothing out of it and then he'll die or have completed his purpose. He's got 400 years of obsession for a singular, fairly absurd goal, he's insane.
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>>288554693
Roswaal: “I've made it snow, as the gospel tells... what do I do now?”

Roswaal has forgotten that he has made it snow one day earlier than what the gospel's writ stated.
Or actually, not even the bet occupies any corner of his mind any more.
Roswaal does not pay any heed to the process. His only concerns are for how the events around SANCTUARY conclude. Snow falls, and the barrier is undone.
Should that happen, should that happen—then what happens?

Roswaal: “Ram... yes... Ram.”

He can no longer hear Ram's breathing.
Roswaal looks down at her face, and gently touches her forehead. Her transformation means that her scar, where her horn used to be, is bleeding. Roswaal wipes away the blood, and as he always does with Ram, injects colourless mana formed from a combination of all six mana types into her.
This was a ritual the two had always done, so that Ram's oni blood would not conquer her.
It's not that he's thinking anything.
Roswaal unconsciously understands that he is merely betting that her vitality as an oni will keep her alive. He has no questions about saving her. Ram needs to live. For the sake of Roswaal's goals, and for what comes after the realisation of those goals.

Roswaal: “Teacher... Teacher, I... What! Am I supposed to do! Teacher... Teacher! Please tell me...please... guide me, again...”

Roswaal's confusion reaches its pinnacle, and he cannot even comprehend his own heart as he
wails. Though he is trying to ensure Ram's survival, his anger about her betrayal remains. He knows that he has lost his beacon, but still searches for that old light.
The snow falls, encasing Roswaal and Ram in white flakes.
Everything drowns in the white, disappearing.
With the thought of, and perhaps that is fine, not present in him in the slightest.

>He's just faking though, the narration is lying too
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>>288554587
Just noticing that Otto has never interacted with Anastasia
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>>288554809
He has, she intimidates him as a more accomplished merchant but also he can hold his own.
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>>288554798
Mind linking the chapter you pulled that from, or did you simply have opus polish up what summaryanon wrote? The difference matters.
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>>288554798
Yeah it makes sense that Roswaal a human is the real mastermind and not his master, a witch with a book of wisdom that allowed her to see any event in the past, present, and future, having a link to almost every major event in the series.
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Ram futa
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>>288554898
Echnida was a 20 year old girl when she died.
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>>288554693
What is this cope that Roswaal and the narration is lying at all times and that Greed IF Roswaal was secret sad because this isn't what he wanted? What does this even do for the story other than retcon Roswaal's entire character and motives? He's just a massive simp who wants to fuck his Aryan waifu and fears the day the Oni god comes to rape him.
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>>288554917
So was Isaac Newton when he discovered Gravity. Why is age relevant?
In a world of witches where her authority is basically infinite knowledge
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>>288554899
Ramu making purebred Oni’s with Remu.
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>>288554798
>>288554891
Mother fucker
>as he
>wails
I recognize this line skip. This is summaryanon's translation. He said himself it's not always accurate.

The broader point is this: Ram is conscious in this scene watching Roswaal behave this way. If Roswaal wants Ram, which he obviously would, then he has to behave this way in front of her for his plan.

>>288554932
The link, if you don't mind, to the chapter.
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>>288554954
If that turns out to be truth it would be the shittiest plot ever, but its just your delusional headcanon
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>>288554937
The Sage was human, so the "well he's only human" doesn't really seem to hold up, just FYI. As for age, it matters because of time constraints. There's only so many hours in a day to set so many things in motion. Echnida wasn't alive as a Witch for very long. Roswaal's been around planning <something> for 400 years.

You seem to be leaning on the idea that Echnida's vast intelligence is omnipotent. Well then how do you explain her not having the foresight to avoid dying?

>>288554967
Which plot would be shit? That someone who was alive during the sundering has been planning something that revolves around the resolution of the sundering?

Notice the following; why hasn't Roswaal told anyone about Hector?
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>>288554954
I'm not the guy that quoted that btw, but what you said has literally zero proof unless you think every single statement by the narration and Roswaal himself is completely false. It sounds like you're just against the idea that Echidna is the mastermind genius just because Roswaal has lived longer than her.
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>>288553950
Maybe the true villain is the friends we made along the way.
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>>288554954
Not that anon but here is the chapter
https://witchculttranslation.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/a4-ph06-c118-end-unrevised.pdf?x20762
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>>288554999
Do you know who else has lived longer than the Echidna?
Shaula...
according to that anon she's smarter than the Echidna.
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>>288554988
NTA, but hector is dead, what point is there in mentioning this random dead guy that used to hold melancholy. Just mention the authority itself is all that matters. And the idea that everything we've ever been shown about Roswaal being a straight up lie is shit writing, it's just a retcon based on nothing. You only think it's valuable because apparently Roswaal being 400 years old and read a book that can tell the future means he has to be the super genius that is manipulating everyone to go against every goal he has because...?
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>>288554999
>unless you think every single statement by the narration and Roswaal himself is completely false
That's not what I'm saying. I'm asking for the link to the actual chapter because the guy translating this did it in a rush ten years ago.

Add the word "appear" in front of every narration and it looks a lot different.
>Roswaal appears to have forgotten.

Ram is conscious in this scene, and narration is from either hers or observational perspective.

>Roswaal has forgotten that he has made it snow one day earlier than what the gospel's writ stated.
vs
>Had Roswaal forgotten that he made it snow one day earlier than what the gospel's writ stated?
etc
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sneaking up on rem while she's scrubbing the floors and slapping her ass and listening to her make a really embarrassing noise
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>>28855498
>The Sage was human
I will pretend that the sage didn't have any authority or is not some otherworldly time looping freak
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>>288555017
That's exactly another thing that's interesting. In the WN, Hector had the same verbal tic that Roswaal does in current year. I'm not sure why the anime/LN removed that but

Why does Roswaal adopt that verbal tic from the former holder of Melancholy?
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>>288555016
Shaula is the smartiest witch beast
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>>288555056
>Why does Roswaal adopt that verbal tic from the former holder of Melancholy?
When puck fights Roswaal, he says that he's the strongest human he's ever faced but he's still not like "that guy"
"that guy" who Puck was referring to was probably Hector and was insinuating that Roswaal hadn't lost all of his humanity in the same way Hector had and was consequently weaker.
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>>288555043
Sure, if you change the story than that theory might be true, but where is it written like that? Just because a translation isn't completely accurate does not mean your headcanon is true. Do you have translations that are written how you think they are? And no, there's no proof that this is from Ram's perspective.

>>288555055
And Echidna has an authority that let's her see all of the past and present

>>288555056
Dunno, I figure he just does that to remind himself of his failure as punishment or something. Puck kinda suggests something like that, that he's too hung up on the past.
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>>288554954
>Ram is conscious in this scene
No she isn't. If you want to prove your crap you can post it to prove it. I gave a translation, its the same as the anime, so now you have to say that some random western dude made edits to the novel and then the studio copied his changes for no reason.

That doesn't pass a basic smell test, that's bullshit.
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>>288555017
>to go against every goal he has
His goal is to make Emilia queen, it was at the start of the series, it was during arc4, it still is now. And his manipulations have... positioned Emilia to be better suited for this. If Roswaal fought every battle alongside Emilia, and hard carries her, does that serve that goal?

>And the idea that everything we've ever been shown about Roswaal being a straight up lie is shit
It's not based on nothing. Roswaal is written as untrustworthy. He's been caught lying multiple times.
>well this time, he's for sure being honest
Maybe, but even if he is the broader point is that....

What has Roswaal been doing off screen?
Any ideas or answers to this?
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>>288555084
Isn't that Anime/LN? I don't recall puck being in WN at all.
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>>288555113
puck's definitely in the webnovel but idk if that exact scene is
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>>288555104
>made edits
That's not what I said. He's a guy in a rush to translate something for free that's... dude, arc4 is three times as long as DUNE.

Here's some more of his translation:

>Subaru: “That's fine. Believe, and from there I'll work to make you accept it.”

>Subaru dimly reflects on how fucking alpha male that sounded.
Yeah, that definitely tracks as what tappei wrote. That Subaru reflected on how "fucking alpha male that sounded"
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>>288555105
No one is claiming that he is trustworthy but your claims that he lost the book on purpose and that the narrator is lying just don't make sense and there is not a tiny bit of evidence of that.

I wouldn't be surprised if he betrays Subaru in the future, but it won't happen because he's been secretly planning it since before arc 4.
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>>288555137
>I wouldn't be surprised if he betrays Subaru in the future
I actually think he won't, I think whatever Roswaal has been planning is decidedly cooperative. I'm not suggesting Roswaal is scheming to undermine Subaru/Emilia, I'm saying that he's planning something that requires Subaru/Emilia to be groomed and made ready for whatever it is.

I mean just look at every single arc and how Roswaal position himself and how those two come out afterwards from it.
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>>288555132
if you're going to peck at translations can you post the original japanese as well and explain what the problem is? seems pointless because nobodys gonna be able to dredge up the chapter number and line themselves
its not as if re:zero doesnt say some completely ridiculous things off the cuff that usually get translated out
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>THIS is what garfield shits himself thinking about
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>Unconscious, Ram seemed as if he were simply asleep.
>意識のないラムは、まるで眠っているだけのように見えた。
>意識のないラム
>意識 - Conscious
>のない - Negation conjugation
>ラム - Ram

> "...Ram?"
>Holding the girl up as she collapses helplessly, Roswaal shakes his body, calling out to her. However, Ram has not responded to the call.

>Her life was now a light in front of the wind.
>"...Rum"
>I can't remember what I was thinking until I walked over to her as she collapsed and touched her body. Even now, holding her tiny body and gazing at her young, sleeping face, nothing comes to mind.

>and gazing at her young, sleeping face
>Ram is conscious, Roswaal is lying
>幼い寝顔
幼い - Young
寝 - Sleep/sleeping
顔 - Face

https://ncode.syosetu.com/n2267be/303/
But I guess Tappei also read the western translation where it changed everything and editing the WN to match.

>I recognize this line skip
There is no "line skip". No lines are skipped.
>Roswaal's confusion reaches its pinnacle, and he cannot even comprehend his own heart as he wails
>ロズワールの心の混迷は極まり、泣き言を口にする自分の心ももうわからない。
I don't even know what you're smoking

What is this stupid cope? The anime isn't adapting some western summary of chapters.
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>>288555105
Emilia is only close to becoming queen because of Subaru, and he followed the books instructions to bring them together.

>Roswaal is written as untrustworthy
Yes, but that doesn't mean that every word that comes from his mouth is a lie and the narration is also a lie in regards to him alone. If we believe that atp you might as well stop theorizing about the story because literally everything could be a complete misdirection with no evidence.
>What has Roswaal been doing off screen
Negotiating with people to get emilia more support, trying to gain more influence with what happened with shult, and betting all his hopes on Subaru never allowing anyone to be lost.
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>>288555160
And here's the other thing, how many people from the great calamity era are even alive and sane? Beatrice is, but she was stuck in a library. So Roswaal was alive and active when all of the events that set everything in motion happened. He's obviously going to be a pivotal character in the future.
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>>288555132
>That's not what I said.
Yes it is. You are claiming Ram is awake and summary anon lied/badly translated/changed things so she is not, repeatedly. Ram is not awake, you are just lying. Why would you even play such a stupid fucking game to claim something so obviously false that a translation where she is unconscious is wrong because you quibble with some of his other choices. He seems to be entirely accurate to that scene line by line yet you say something majorly opposite is actually true based on... that you think he translates things wrong and also that the anime changed things too, and just happened to make the same change he did.

Which is no change at all. She's knocked out from herself and getting hole blown through her. No shit.
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>>288555160
Arcs 1-4 are all because of the book, he simply is told what to do and does it. Roswaal has zero input in the events of arcs 5-9. Nothing about this is a part of his plan. Subaru just replaced his book on what to rely on, as that's all he's done in the last 400 years: cling to whatever can guide him to echidna again.
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>>288555194
>意識のないラムは、まるで眠っているだけのように見えた。
The unconscious Ram looked as though she were asleep.
is how I would translate it.
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>>288555195
>Emilia is only close to becoming queen because of Subaru, and he [brought them] together.
Yeah, exactly my point. Everything that happened to Subaru from the moment he arrived was going according to Roswaal's script. Did that script truly end at Arc 4 is what I'm asking. Because it's rather odd that yet again, for Arc 5, where was Roswaal? Conveniently absent for a major battle where his presence would have been useful, but in turn by being absent Emilia/Subaru grow further.
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>>288555207
And that means he's a super genius that lied about his true intentions all this time and has some kind of secret goal? Is it that hard to comprehend Echidna is simply smarter than him and he's just her tool?
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>>288555216
Arc 6 is in a sort of vague sense that he needs Ram to know what she can do. Or at least she takes her figuring out what she can do that way. Though its mostly still off the rails. He I guess remembers what the book told him Ram is supposed to be doing in the future.
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>>288555231
So his masterplan is to do nothing?
damm
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>>288555227
I literally do not care how MTL translated it, it is only for the gist of the statement into english from the raw Japanese because you think Summaryanon made shit up and lied that she is unconscious when you say she never was.

Does that say
"The conscious Ram is watching Roswaal and he lies to her about being confused"?
Because that's what you need it to say, you said she was conscious, she is watching Roswaal, and he is aware of this and needs to lie to her and keep up an act.
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>>288555232
>Echidna is simply smarter than him and he's just her tool?
Was dying a part of her plan?
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>>288554165
They banged?
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>>288555247
Yes they are.

>「先生……先生……私は……僕は! どうしたらいいのですか! 先生……先生……っ! 教えてください……また僕を……導いてください……っ」
>Roswaal: “Teacher... Teacher, I... What! Am I supposed to do! Teacher... Teacher! Please tell me...please... guide me, again...”

>先生 - Sensei - Teacher
>私は - I (watashi)
>僕は - I (boku, he is reverting to childish language)
>どうしたらいいのですか - What is good to do?
And so on.

Fucking stop.
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>>288555255
Well the narration also says

>「ラムは生きていなくてはならないのだ。ロズワール自身が目的を達するためにも、目的を達した後のためにも。」
>Ram needed to be alive. For Roswaal to achieve his own purpose, and for what came after.

Straight up in what you posted.

Why does Ram need to be alive for what comes after?
What comes after? What are those plans?
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>>288555231
>Everything that happened to Subaru from the moment he arrived was going according to Roswaal's script
The book told him to do that, it was the book's script, Roswaal just did as he was told.
>Because it's rather odd that yet again, for Arc 5, where was Roswaal?
He wasn't there because the book is gone, he can't know what will happen and how to navigate it.

>>288555237
Are you saying he knows Ram can tap into the Oni god power using Rem's body? Or that he instructed her how? Either way that doesn't mean he planned or anticipated arc 6, there's zero correlation just because she uses that power to not die.

>>288555256
Maybe, maybe not. Her dying does not mean Roswaal is smarter than her. If Roswaal does does that mean Emilia of Garfiel is smarter than him?
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>>288555274
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what did Subaru mean by this?
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>>288555284
>>288555287
>Ram needed to be alive. For Roswaal to achieve his own purpose, and for what came after.
?
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>>288555256
considering that there is at least 5 different Echidnas scattered around the world it might be
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>>288555287
>Why does Ram need to be alive for what comes after?
Because she was part of his plan. As I already said before. And in the full statement his is glitching out so he is clinging to the only edicts he can remember. He knows Ram was relevant she has to live. If even says he is not saving her, she just needs to be alive. She is not dead in his assumed future so she can't die here.

Nothing about that has anything to do with any of your assertions. Stick to your guns, retard:
Ram is conscious, Roswaal is purposefully lying to her because he knows she's awake and he needs to put on an act.
That is your argument, that is what you need to be true. I don't care about you trying to jump at anything else, you said this was a fact and summaryanon made up that she wasn't so all of Roswaal's actions and all the narrations are lies because he's acting to an audience.
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>>288555293
Canon btw
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>>288555255
i'm not trying to push any theory. I just like japanese. in that case i just think you would use sou or mitai and not no you ni to describe something as appearing a certain way but not actually being that way. no you ni is usually metaphorical in that manner of speaking.
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>>288555298
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>>288555321
But you said his master plan was to revive the witch. If the endgame is the revive the witch, and that's the sum total of it, then why does Ram need to be alive for it? Why Ram of all people?
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>>288555340
Why the oni god of all people?
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>>288555332
You said Ram was awake. I have posted to you that she is not. You continue to insist on a theory that you based entirely on her being awake and said all our translations lied about it and the anime changed it too. I said the WN is the same, you said it wasn't.

Is Ram awake in that scene in all the cited WN sections or is she not?

Literally no other position or argument matters, posts the sections that prove she is awake, retard.
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Guys, I have this crazy theory, it's takes a lot of analysis of the subtext so you might not get it, but hear me out.

Elsa is secretly alive and is manipulating everyone so Subaru can kill Cappella and keep Meili safe. We never saw her funeral, right?

>Garf's hallucinations?
Elsa purposely traumatized him so he could grow from it and defeat Kurgan
>Gluttony in the tower?
Where is Elsa's alibi for when the triplets were born and Rui seemingly died in the womb? Obviously Elsa used witch cult assets to to her into the hall of memories. Arc 6 is her scheme to get Subaru the gluttony authority, as that's what he needs to face Cappella?
>Roy's death?
He's alive, Elsa learned cloning magic and made a fake body. They will appear together and help Subaru in his final battle together. Can you prove the translations aren't incorrect and the original jp text is explaining that Elsa is watching from the shadows? I thought so.
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>>288555340
Because Ram plays some part in that, dumbass. We don't know what it is. I already explained this and you are being a dumb asshole to try desperately to move away from you claiming she was awake this whole time and continuing to assert that is true.

Post it, retard.
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>>288555348
i wasnt the one who said that, sorry for giving that impression.
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>>288555347
What about this theory >>288552242
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>>288555340
Ram needs to breed with Barusu in order to birth the next Oni God because Ram is a handicap Oni God. The child will be strong enough to beat Volcanica then Roswaal will use the dragon’s blood to revive Echidna. This was all in Tappei’s Q&A
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>>288555347
Because he has a dragon to kill. How that revives Echidna we don't know, but we know that's what he wants as at least part of the plan. Now that we know what is required to kill it we know you will need at least two people to do it.
But it could also be for something else we don't know about and not his magic oni gun shotgun to use on the dragon. Between him and Clind they on paper have the tools necessary to kill it, so maybe that's not what Ram is for or she's supposed to support that.

Now post where she is awake, Roswaal is aware she is awake and he is acting in front of her.
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>>288555354
Elsa is unironically a proto-Satella. Yorna seems to be one too.
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>>288555372
But Ram is devoted to Roswaal, so that means it will be Roswaal's son.
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I don't understand anything you fags say or do, so I guess I'll read the WN and post later
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>>288555332
Because she's not asleep retard, she's dying. She looks like she's asleep, but she's not, she's bleeding out.
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>>288555355
>Because Ram plays some part in that, dumbass. We don't know what it is

>Roswaal has no plan
>Ram is a part of his plan

Which is it?
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>>288555372
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>>288555354
this is AI generated
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>>288555415
Canon
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>>288555354
jej
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>>288555405
maru de is softening it and making her seem like just a kawaii bishoujo who's all tuckered out though.
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>>288555418
Natural Stupidity anon, I don't half ass being retarded
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Ram prone bone
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>>288555407
>Roswaal has no plan
Are you literally retarded?
He HAD a plan. It got wrecked up. He is not totally over it, but he doesn't have his book to check anymore. He still remembers some things the book told him to do and that Ram is important in the future. Since she's important in the future he is saving her as a matter of course desperately trying to cling to any instruction he can remember. Which is also why he makes it snow again, even though the text explicitly says he is not actually following the gospel anymore, the snow is coming too soon. He's not thinking right.
But you don't think he is, you think he's acting and plotting for the awake Ram you say is in some magic version of this scene that neither the original source nor any adaptation has.

You've been demanding people post proof, you fucking post proof now dumbass.
Ram is awake in that scene, post it. Your entire bullshit requires it, you argued that was the proof of Roswaal faking. Post it.
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This will be real
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Why are novel readers hyping up episode 11?
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>>288555447
And Roswaal is STILL trying to revive Echidna, but now its Subaru's job and not the book's. Subaru's job is going to be harder without the book from Roswaal's perspective, but ultimately the book was just a tool, he has an idea of how he does what he wants, and now he needs Subaru as his new tool to make it happen in place of the book.
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>>288555450
Nope. Subaru is a goy and not part of Hoshin’s chosen people
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>>288555447
Sure, here's some.

If you want proof that Roswaal's plans are still in motion, you can take one glance at Arc6 and explain to me why something that Roswaal made for Ram years ago is a key piece in Ram surviving.

Purely coincidental? Even so, consider this:

He made that wand while he had the gospel. If the gospel told him to make the wand, and the wand was something she needed past arc4, then the plan apparently stretches past arc4.
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>>288555464
Emilia is going to have a cringe speech I guess.
As long as they aren't pussies Ram should judo throw Emilia which is way more hype.
But they might be pussies so Emilia never gets hurt.
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>>288555464
Beako sacrifices herself to save Subaru's life from an explosion.
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>>288555476
Post that Ram is awake in that scene where he's treating her and Roswaal is lying to her.

Literally all your bullshit and all your lies hinges on that being true, prove it first before you keep rambling about any other bullshit when you were so confident the anime and sumarryanon did things wrong by making her unconscious.
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ok but will capella be redeemed
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>>288555470
Whatever the original plan was probably won't even do any good anymore since Subaru has changed too many variables to control. Things might still coincedentally align but the grand vision is totally off. The book didnt contain the future where the barrier didn't exist, which is like such a fundamental requirement for every plan.
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>>288555476
Even if this is all true, that means this is the books doing and that again, Roswaal was just a tool to do what it tells him.

The entire point of this argument was that you, I assume you're the original anon, thinks everything from the arc 1 is a part of Roswaal's plan, that he's lying about everything he says and has some secret goal, and that the narration is always hiding this fact. He apparently wanted the book to get destroyed because that was to lead him to his true goal of who fucking knows and that he is smarter than Echidna who is a nobody because she died in her 30s and Ros is 400 years old, so it's impossible for him to less intelligent.

Did I get anything wrong?
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>>288555520
good morning. she will NOT redeem
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'ate ram
'ate clown
simple as
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>>288555496
not him but ryuzu was watching them. ryuzu later tells emilia that her replicas act as "eyes" throughout the sanctuary and that they can locate roswaal and ram
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>>288555476
Holy fucking shit you dense, obtuse, retard.
We KNOW Roswaal is still working towards his original goal as he was going to be lead to by the gospel. He said so. He is not shy about this. He told Subaru. Subaru took over for what the book is supposed to do and Roswaal is going to throw a fit if Subaru won't keep working towards his goal. We know he's aware of what Ram is supposed to be used for, we know he set up how Ram works for that purpose. Ram understands her own purpose or part of it based on discovering what she can do in arc 6.
To figure out what plans Roswaal already had set in motion as well as his eventual goal and method Otto wants to fix his gospel to see what it says and give them some warning about what Roswaal is trying to do.

Which is still to revive Echidna, as he was doing the whole time.

He is not lying about that. He's not faking. He's not playing 20D checkers and trying to do something else. He doesn't secretly love and respect Emilia and want to groom her to be the bestest queen ever. He's not stacking authorities on Subaru, he said the less Subaru gets the more convenient it is for him. Which probably means he understands Subaru will not like how he revives Echidna and he needs to countermeasure against him in the end.
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>>288555498
emilia and subaru is the couple tappei created because the narrative demands

rem and subaru is his teenage self insert he intends to honor

ram and roswaal is his present self getting the maid pussy he wanted so much
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>>288555520
She'll be redeemed and join the competition for Subaru's heart
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luv ram
'ate clown
simple as
not magephobic. just dont like em
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>>288555525
i'm pretty sure the witch cult is following the same plan and that he loosing the book was part of the book's plan

he is just not the mastermind anymore, just one of the pawns being in motion

he fulfilled his part, and he knows and believes in it
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ram and subaru having sloppy nasty sex
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>that he's lying about everything he says
This part isn't what I was saying, I'm saying that his words can't be trusted at face value and that he's capable of performing emotions. So he could be telling the truth 99% of the time, or telling selective truths, etc.

>>288555552
Hey, asshole, read this

>>288555160
>I actually think he won't, I think whatever Roswaal has been planning is decidedly cooperative. I'm not suggesting Roswaal is scheming to undermine Subaru/Emilia, I'm saying that he's planning something that requires Subaru/Emilia to be groomed and made ready for whatever it is.


That's what I said.
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>>288555572
so you think echidna was lying when she said there were 2 copies of the tome of wisdom?
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>>288555588
This is another interesting thing.
Roswaal was active in the world for 400 years.
Did he read the other tome of wisdom during that period?
That's not mere gospel.
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>>288555586
His plan is to revive Echidna. Subaru and Emilia are the keys to reaching that goal. He is nothing but a slave to the gospel and when he lost that he clings to Subaru because he has no idea how to do it on his own. Echidna is smarter and the real master you think Roswaal secretly is. There is nothing deeper to it.

At this point, you're retarded and just making shit up if you think otherwise.
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Ram nakadashi
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Ram will die childless
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>>288555588
i'm saying my personal theory that the gospels and the books of wisdom shows the same future with the intention to fullfill the same plan that guided roswaal
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>>288555603
>Echidna is smarter and the real master you think Roswaal secretly is. There is nothing deeper to it.
I agree with this assessment too, because it also explains why Beako's is blank.
Beako was Echidna's daughter so she didn't give her a future to live by, instead she made it blank so that she could be free and live according to her own will. Beako just misinterpreted a genuine display of love from her mother.
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basically erischna final boss right? this bitch is the one controlling the future from 400 years in the past, she killed billions through her books
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>Starting a family with Elsa
Yup, doesn't get any better than that.
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Elsa is pushing up appas
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>>288555603
>Echidna is smarter and the real master
how many times have you coomed to her
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>>288555651
How am I supposed to remember that?
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>>288555628
no? all the witches are bad, but it seems like they became bad through noble aims. echidna was a good person at some point but lost her personhood in pursuit of goodness. she wanted to know everything but ended up losing her ability to not know things and feel emotions like love. that's why she's fixated by subaru, because he exists outside of this world and isn't understood by her yet. She learned herself out of happiness. That's why she resents Emilia so much, because the things Emilia fails to understand are what allow her to still be happy.
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>>288555679
Rem was made to watch Subaru have sex with Ram
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>>288555672
Well I was just trying to pin down why you vehemently defend Echnida, now I understand why. Anything that suggests Roswaal is in control of anything is an indirect attack on Echnida.
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>>288554168
>>288549988
Does Betty know that Subaru had to face Geuse and kill him
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>>288555701
Genuinely, are you an idiot? Because I like Echidna means when I say she is the mastermind (she is, Roswaal would drag his balls across the entire desert if the book ordered him to without question) I'm just making shit up?

If you can't prove anything you said then give up.
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Trust the plan
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>>288555722
Yes, when Subaru shows Pete's gospel and says he killed him, Beatrice whispers about him being gone too
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>>288555724
>, Roswaal would drag his balls across the entire desert if the book ordered him to without question
he's rolling the rng seed on his seed to create the perfect baby with ram
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>>288555733
Wow I don't remember that at all
Damn so Betty knew that Geuse lost his mind?
Does this conversation happen in the anime?
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>>288555759
She's supposed to talk with Roswaal about Subaru having both Sloth and Greed factors at the start of Season 4, but this was cut because the retards only allocated 19 episodes with no extended ones. There's a Season 2 Break Time that shows Beako with Geuse and Echidna before he went mad and took the Sloth factor.
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>>288555759
It's around the beginning of season 2 I believe, and apparently geuse was her teacher and he was also friends with Echidna
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>>288552546
Literally the only crime Roswaal did was simping too hard and actively endanger the sanctuary because of it.
If he isn't redeemable then literally nobody is.
Ram and Rem literally tortured subaru and they were redeemed.
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TRVKES
400 years is the key.
It is the time span to become truly strong e.g. 3 great mabeasts or any mabeast that can survive 400 years, shaula, roswaal, puck, julius's spirits becoming great spirits, petra and 'shaula' scorpion
Everything happened 400 years ago with reid, the dragons, satella, flugel, echidna, other witches.
The world was destroyed and drained.
Humanity flourished as jews, the empire and CIA gained power.
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>isekai fantasy escapism
>it must be the jews
shinimodori yourself
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>>288555785
If we're talking about failed loops, Roswaal:
Hired Elsa, who killed everyone 3 times, which leads to puck likely killing everyone in the slums and maybe the capital until Reinhard arrives
Got everyone in the mansion and Arlam killed by having zero defenses for petelgeuse's attack
Got everyone in the mansion and the sanctuary killed by hiring else and summoning the rabbits
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>>288555743
This but unironically, been saying it since the start.
See >>288552242
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In astrology 400 years is the time for jupiter and saturn to transition across all four elements.
It might be how somoene is isekai'd to the world.
Every 400 years the alignment is done.
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>>288555841
>been saying it since the start.
as the tome of wisdom foretold
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>>288555849
I remember seeing some break time short where Al confesses that he's from nip land too
How does that factor into this
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>>288555849
Maybe more enticingly, the stars in Pleiades (Subaru) are 400 light years away from earth.
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>>288555464
AURA MONSTER STAIRS fell flat so they've moved on to the season finale.
It does seem like it will be an extended episode, maybe just no op/ed aired.
Anyone hoping for s5 announcement is a retard btw, it will just be a 1 month break for the 2nd cour to start.
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>>288555550
I see, so someone else was observing Roswaal, or at a minimum, Roswaal knew it was possible he was being observed. So it wasn't Ram observing, it was Ryuzu.
>>288555255 Sure, fine, Ram was conscious. Well done, you were right on that point. My recollection from ten years ago was off.

But the point remains the same and I was right that Roswaal had an audience, which is what matters to the theory in question.
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>>288555899
And more importantly

>>288555287
>>288555287
>>288555287
>「ラムは生きていなくてはならないのだ。ロズワール自身が目的を達するためにも、目的を達した後のためにも。」
>Ram needed to be alive. For Roswaal to achieve his own purpose, and for what came after.

What is Ram important for what comes after? All signs point to breeding, my original point.
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Metia was a mistranslation, it's actually meteors.
The alien like technology that came down like meteors.
Mad king is right, every spirits has to die.
Then every non human has to die.
Then magic wiped out.
Until the world becomes normal and controlled.
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>>288555943
Satella = satellite
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>>288555827
Ok yea he did all of that, that's indefensible, but like he was stopped and now it's an ally
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>>288555958
Didn't Meili kill Subaru multiple times and get caught in the act of it?
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>>288555943
Mad prince leaked the ending. The rz world is actually earth far into the past after he succeeds in leaving only humans.
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>>288555956
She’s so desperate for the BBC, the big barusu cock…
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>>288555970
Nou ga furueru
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S5 will adapt the Azamuku route of arc 7 to make Vollachia much more shorter, but also modify it ever so slightly so that the allies Subaru made in the main-route survive and become his friends again.
>Source?
The stars told me.
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>>288555849
>The only isekai'd person we know of is "Natsuki Subaru" and the different versions of him.
I wonder, what could it mean?
>>288555943
Isn't it implied that Echidna was behind the creation of the vast majority of Metias? I wouldn't be surprised if she used Flugel's knowledge and memories of eath to make odd artifacts.
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>>288555969
Yes, Meili has killed Subaru indirectly once and directly twice. Although Meili isn't hired by Roswaal any time she's doing anything.
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>>288556127
You're getting the full unabridged Vollachia experience and you will like it
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I have a controversial opinion to share...
I think Season 4 is a great season and arc 6 might be my favorite in the series so far.
t. Animeonly
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>>288555730
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>>288556252
I like the part where Subaru cums inside Ram then her stomach swells with the Oni God child
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Since season 4 was supposed to be included in season 3, are we getting arc 7 pre animated trailer?
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>>288556252
Correct take
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>>288556273
Is arc 7 good?
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>>288556320
I feel for Subaru's spine. Maybe an oni leglock is too much
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>>288556307
It has positives, but is too unfocused and sort of irrelevant.
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>>288556307
it got its issues but it's still fun
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>>288556273
Rachins? My hero
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The slums of the royal capital are a prime location for a fried chicken spot and a liquor store
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>>288556387
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>>288556358
Tanzass
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>>288552860
>Al tells her that she should drop out of the Princess Selection because it is too dangerous
>immediately becomes enraged and kills AL
>he comes back using RBD and does the exact same thing over a hundred times
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>>288556245
>Beako.
>Rem with antlers.
>Subaru's Daphne.
At least the lolis are becoming stronger.
>>288556307
It's fun but way too long for It's own good, and in hindsight a bad consequence of Tappei letting the LN catch up to the WN without there being a reasonable distance between both, because otherwise we might have had the LN polish&trim the arc more properly.

As it stands Vollachia is 12 LN volumes, while each arc since arc 3 has been around ~5 LN volumes.
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>>288552317
>he's developed feelings for her on the same level as Echidna as of Arc 8

And nigger lied as easily as he steals
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>>288553161
>thats why hes scared of emilia
5 loops anon, 5 fucking loops
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>According to the author, Shaula was almost the last of the main characters to appear.
REEEEE, why not make her one
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>>288556508
Too whoreish. Only pure girls like Emilia, Beatrice, and Anastasia allowed.
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>>288556526
She just wanted to hugg
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>>288552595
That was literally his plan and betty called him out on it before arc 6.
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Subaru English VA apparently said that S4 ep 11 is better than s1 ep 18.
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>>288556468
He's scared that Emilia is retarded enough to be tricked by him
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>>288555771
>the retards only allocated 19 episodes
Studio requested 30, like always. Kadokawa green lit for 15, settled on 19. Like they always do. It's not a matter of what they buy but what they can convince the parent company to get. Being too successful with the first 2 seasons got this result.
>extended
That's literally just 3 more minutes per episode
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>>288556616
>I love Rem
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>>288556616
That Emilia speech is the lamest thing ever, it might as well get written out since it changes nothing
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>>288556307
Very good.
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>>288556456
>Subaru's Daphne.
God damn, I never realized that. Everythingbis truly mirroring Flugel's adventure.
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>>288556616
>Subaru English VA
Lmao.
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>>288556458
>He's lying because [HEADCANON].
>Please ignore the narrative, characters and Sasageru IF that proves me wrong.
Scram.
This nonsense is on par with the theory "Aldebaran has Natsuki Rigel's soul from Sloth IF".
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>>288556702
>Sasageru IF

Reddit is down the hall brownie
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I think Subaru should have sex with Frederica
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>>288556616
wait this series gets dubbed?
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>>288550270
Animeonly as well, doesn't he grow?
>overcomes his agoraphobia by trusting his mentor
>becomes more considerate of others and stops treating them like NPCs that exist solely for his personal amusement
>he tries to save his mother when he really doesn't need to do this
>tries to help other people, with nothing to gain for himself from it
>acknowledges his past mistakes and flaws
He's still far from perfect don't get me wrong, and he's still a pedo, but he does grow in the 2 anime seasons, doesn't he?
>>288550344
>he's still a pedo
Well duh, that's my point, thus it's pedotensei
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>>288556751
Yeah all seasons have a dub. Sean Chiplock (Rean's voice actor) voices Subaru.
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>>288556778
haha..... guess he stopped holding back
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>>288556709
>no argument.
I accept your defeat.
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>>288556846
>no argument.
You never had one, no need to be a salty loser about it jeet.
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>Starts reading Arc 7
God i fucking hate nu-Rem. Does it ever get better?
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>>288556888
no lol
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>>288556456
>moblia absent in the image
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Animeonly here, why does fan art seem to try to involve Petra with a blowjob? Is there a maymay i'm missing?
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>>288556888
Arc 7 is kino. If you don't understand why Rem acts like that you're most likely a moefag so you'll never like rem again beside arc 9.
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>>288556874
>The author's writing and own words? Not argument and doesn't matter.
>My personal headcanon that contradicts the story so far? A compelling argument that matters.
What causes this type of mental illness?
You're probably LARPing and haven't even read the story you're discussing.
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>>288557008
From an animeonly perspective, it's still clear that Petra likes Subaru onii-san
At the end of season 1, she says she won't lose to Emilia as they ride in the carriage to The Sanctuary and Emilia asks,
>"Who is Rem"
to Subaru
Season 2 doubles down on the fact that Petra does hold those feelings for Subaru. It's not just a life debt to be a maid for her.

Now why would anyone draw lolicon art is a different question altogether, and I hope that is not what your question was
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>>288557073
There's art with multiple girls at times, the others could be doing nothing yet Petra is aiming for a blowjob. >>288556456
If there's no maymay of sorts, whatever I guess.
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>>288557104
She has to compete somehow
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>>288552945
Imagine being turned off by a character for being insane. In Rezero of all series!
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>>288556970
>>288557289
CORRECTION IS NEEDED
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>fight
>fighting reminds you of elsa
>thinking about elsa gives you a boner
>begin to cry
Why is Garf like this?
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>>288557012
It's a bit contrived, she's not asking who she is or what's with his smell or why he's so devoted to her, he's not explaining shit and half of the action could have been resolved with IP.
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>>288557394
>half of the action could have been resolved with IP.
Thanks for proving that you either didn't read the novels or are just dumb.
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>make Shaula
>not make her part of the main cast
He done goofed
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>>288557406
>didn't read the novels
Well yeah, i'm reading the WN.
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>in wn Shaula was slightly taller than subaru
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>>288557439
Same as me, in that case you would already know why you're wrong.
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>>288557467
Best witch.
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>>288557467
Isn't that wearing that dress a sin?
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>>288556526
>only pure girls
>like Emilia
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Roy? ate it
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>>288557587
That's very close
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>>288557599
He ate mine too.
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>>288557556
It's a trap to make you feel guilty
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What happens if you don't feel guilty?
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>>288557394
>she's not asking who she is or what's with his smell or why he's so devoted to her, he's not explaining shit
To give credit where it's due, they try to do so multiple times with the last one being in arc 8, but each time it's delayed, probably because having a single proper conversation would've clarified a lot and given Subaru a massive mental buff as "Rem's hero" which we can't have yet, which is indeed a bit contrived.

Arc 10 at least has setup a plot-point of Rem reflecting and making up for her actions in early arc 7 that hurt Subaru, alongside promising to protect Meili which might lead to a confrontation against "Mother".
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>Loyal
>Sporty
>Tomboyish but also girly
>Down to fuck (but only with master)
>Genki
>Happy
>Monster girl
>overpowered as fuck at long range, Tappei said she's #4 strongest in the world, but weaker at mid and close range (but still would wipe the floor with Julius or Emilia at close range)
ALMOST added to the main cast but she was too powerful and would trivialize future encounters for the gang
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there's barusu ram shipping for the anime state, do more reasons get added later?
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>>288557826
Her current form is cuter anyway.
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>>288557914
She'll be rezzed into full form
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>>288557826
How is it that after so many years of drawing Ootsuka hasn't improved even a little bit? He's great at character design tho.
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>>288557054
>What causes this type of mental illness?
You tell us, you're the one afflicted by it.
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>>288557826
I genuinely believe she would have been if not for the fact that Emilia would lose relevance and screen time. Which would be fair, but Emilia is a waste of both anyway.
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>>288558204
Reid off screen jacking it on everyone
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>>288558204
Why are they being glazed like donuts?
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>>288558222
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>>288558204
post the chinese meili one haha
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>>288558279
nvmd it's there
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>>288558204
why can't they at least choose a diff color? maymay about cum for whatever series just seems obviously done
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>>288558320
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>>288557984
Subaru's version of the lust witch factor will let him heal people back to their ideal, both body and gate. He'll use it to save Shaula, Anastasia, Crusch and Fortuna before he even thinks about repairing his own.
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>>288558620
>He'll use it to save Shaula
>Fortuna
Yeah, no.
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>>288558620
His lust authority will probably be love-oriented, and will be strongest with Rem, Beako, Emilia and perhaps Petra( assuming he's already starting to see her that way) to distinguish it from Cor Leonis which works with anyone who "trusts" him and considers him an ally and a friend.
That being said-
>Fortuna.
>Shaula.
They're gone, bro. Just let it go.
Fortuna's soul no doubt has left her body by now, like Guese, a spirit is probably controlling the body.
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The anime isn't good enough to make me want to read the light novel. I'll just take the scenes as they are, skip the ones I consider to be boring. I can even easily fast-forward and play it in the background, and will have missed nothing relevant having happened.
As an advert for the light novel, it's a failure.
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>>288558905
The entire arc of the story is Subaru doing impossible things to save people that don't deserve it, building up to saving Satella. He is abolutely going to save Fortuna on the way there.
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>>288558905
Petra is a one-sided child’s crush. His Lust Authority will probably let him change into Natsumi at will, or split himself into two so Emilia and Rem get him without upsetting either fanbase, which can also be useful as he can be at two different places at the same time if he has a clone.
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>>288558940
I think Sirius (Fortuna) will help Subaru in Arc 10 because she thinks he's Petelgeuse. It would add to the chaos of the Sin Archbishop accusations and Crusch can detect no hostile intent from Sirius, and they can't sit there and try to fight her. Her Authority also counters Evil Eye.
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>Daniel has better taste than Subari
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>>288559015
It was forshadowed in the last chapter of the WN that he'll be able to split into multiple bodies, each with their own invisible hand to save people, so something like that is almost confirmed already.
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>>288559104
Yeah, seems like it’s another utility ability, which is good because Subaru is very creative when figuring out how to save everyone.
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>>288557737
Cunny becomes a habit
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>>288559084
He's a zoophile?
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>>288557385
He's just a kid, pls understand.
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>>288559015
>child’s crush
It isn't, the narrative repeatedly says both that she's among the most mature in the camp, and has the best understanding of romance.
Don't know how you can say that after arc 9 which proved that her love for Subaru can go as far as Rem's.
>or split himself into two so Emilia and Rem get him without upsetting either fanbase
Subaru would sooner kill "Subaru" than hand over either.
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>>288559349
As I said it’s one-sided, which you left out. I’m not doubting her intelligence. Subaru doesn’t feel that way.
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>>288558905
Geuse was a spirit from the start
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>>288559104
>hinted
How?
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>>288556659
I love Rem too.
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>>288557385
Meet’n up with GARFIEL was th’end of y’luck. Now GET WRECKED like’a “PAZO-MAZO RIGHT AN’LEFT”!
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>>288559396
>Subaru doesn’t feel that way
...Yet, and that's despite the hints that he's already starting not view her as just a little girl.
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>>288559468
Can anyone make a webm of garfield jumping on cap'n in priestella?
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>>288559484
Okay, so someone like Anastasia who he wouldn’t normally attempt to headpat, as in be more respectful to.
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>>288559489
I remember it but no the episode.
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>>288559445
Wasn't trying to imply otherwise, just that Sirius's current case is very, if not the same, as Guese's. Down to their antagonist attitude towards other spirits.
>>288559461
NTA, but it was a throwaway line in chapter 23, it can be taken as a hint, I guess. But imo it will need more build-up beyond just this if it's going to be an actual thing like plot-point or an authority.
>Subaru: "Yeah, I'm sorry, but we have no choice but to leave that to you and your group. If I had ten or twenty arms and five or six bodies, I could be of more use……"

>Beatrice:"What an absurd analogy, I suppose. Subaru is reasonably flawless just as he is now, in fact."
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>>288559104
>he'll be able to split into multiple bodies
One man gangbangs crew
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>>288559509
>someone like the eldest candidate
Probably.
Though we know how assertive Petra can be, and how Subaru melts when shown geniune trust and love.
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>>288559695
Ana has a fucking heavy purse.
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how old is subaru currently in the story?
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>>288559726
Aldebaran / 2
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>>288559726
19 or close to it
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>>288559468
Meli saved your bitch ass, tiger-boy.
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>>288559719
The joke is she keeps a huge old lady purse with all kinds of stuff for emergencies and random contingencies. of it's not totally obvious.
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>>288559747
and that's with all the subjective time he also experienced?
Assuming that he's not a 1 trillion year old boomerlooper who is constantly made to forget about everything or some other shit.
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What if Roy was EVIL?
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>>288559796
>and that's with all the subjective time he also experienced?
in that case he may be 20 but no older
he looped a lot in vollachia but they were short intervals
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>>288559695
>22
lmao s1 anime def messed up her design
I thought she was 16 at MOST. Looked younger than that tbhdesu
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>>288559942
Ackshually, s1 anime got it right, it's s3 onwards where the character designer director was clearly in love with Ana.
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Ok, how?
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>>288559531
It's episode 7 of s3. It was cute as fuck.i keep forgetting that garfield is literally a kid.
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>>288560682
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>>288560910
Great thank you.
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>>288560682
>look up to some guy as he outsmarted you
>turns out dude led the forces to take down not just THE White Whale that has plagued the lands for centuries, but also took out an Archbishop WITHOUT casualties
>pledge your life to him, as the shield for what he stands for
>>Priestella's watergates open
>>>have to look on hopelessly as the man you've pledged to, uses his last moments to tie and make sure his rival is safe as he plunges to the depths of the water with a missing leg
I'd be horrified and I'm twice his age
Garfiel must have held on to hope that Subaru is a super cockroach when it comes to surviving bleak situations, because honestly this is a pretty tame reaction
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>>288561445
>Garfiel must have held on to hope that Subaru is a super cockroach
Lmao did you really have to put it like that hahahahaha
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Are Echidna and Pandora enemies?
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>>288561687
they are cute girls so they are allies
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>>288561687
They should be since pandora wants to corrupt the world which will end lots of knowledge opportunities.
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>echidna responsible for 99% of problems
>our HERO hector gives up his everything to use melancholy to kill her
Sidestory when?
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Subaru never used Cor Leonis on NuRem, right?
I think in Vollachia he only used it on the Pleiades battleion, and in arc 9 Rem already had her memories back when he came back.
>>288561687
>Aldebaran: “Answer. If there’s Tristitia, then is there also Vanagloria?”
>Witch: “There is, but you have no particular reason to worry. It is not our responsibility to do anything about them, and I do not wish to get involved. They are both good-for-nothings.”
>Aldebaran: “That oughta be a given since nobody who’s taken in a Witch Factor is a decent person!”
>Witch: “They are especially good-for-nothing. We were all discovered by our Witch Factors to become Witches. Whereas those two are different. They took in Factors of their own volition, pure aberrants reduced to Witch and Warlock.”

We know Hector for one was a hero until his authority corrupted him, maybe the same happened with Pandora though from what we have seen from her she still seems composed and not a complete loony.
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Harem ending with 5+ waifus is the only answer
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>>288562036
>Emilia
>Rem
>Petra
>Satella
Who’s the last one?
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>>288562161
Meili, Frederica and Tanza
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>>288562161
felix
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>>288562161
Only one answer
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Shaula's hell snipe was the strong so she had to be taken out.
Subaru would face nearly no problems with her there with him in vollacia.
>snipes olbart's ass off
>butchers vincent for being rude
>eats tanza literally
>kills bunch of nobles
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>>288562350
The struggle of being too efficient
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>>288551825
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>>288561687
Yes, absolutely. Echidna downplays them but Hector ultimately killed her. And Pandora corrupted the Witch Cult which Echidna was on good terms with.
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>>288551343
>Typhon
Typhon's legs have been split further than anyone else on that list
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>>288562350
Author said literally this, Shaula was too OP and gang would be living it up on tutorial mode
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New chapter NEVER!
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>[Shaula: Master, when troubled, you return back to the basis. Starting with from how you jab.]

>[Subaru: ….What is that teaching?]

>[Shaula: It’s Master’s teachings.]

[>Subaru: It’s no wonder I thought it was useless.]

Subaru and Shaula has the best banters in the series
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>>288556252
S3 was ass, S2 was meh, S4 is good
T. animeonly
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>>288550368
Stop fucking eating everything!
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>>288563005
It will release on the day the newest volume releases, he did the same move in the last batch. Then he will take a month-long break again.
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I just realized the cut it in 2 so they can make 2 difference genres.
The mystery horror aspect with nu-baru and then the battle shounen HYPE genre with the gluttony battles.
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trespassing nigs get the needle
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>>288563283
Roy gets an entire cour to himself.
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>>288563283
>Mystery horror.
>Battle shounen hype.
That's pretty much what Re:zero switches between every now and then, though the latter is not as good as the former.
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>>288563350
s3 battles sucked ass, I don't even remember s2 battles which is quite impressive
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>*headshots the subarunigger*
>*subarunigger hugs her*
did she assert her dominance?
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>>288563507
What if Subaru was white?
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What if Roy was EVIL?
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>>288563522
?
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>>288563599
You called him a nig?
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>>288563617
Yeah, it has nothing to do with his ethnicity or skin color. If you look reaaaally closely, you might notice he's japanese
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>>288563697
I don’t like this image. Go back to Shaula.
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Which Shaula is best Shaula?
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>>288563831
They look the same except the anime made her 1% less of a whore my making her shorts not as short.
So the anime version.
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>>288560578
How what? Not like Rem can stop him
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>>288563831
I really like Shaula's voice and i have a voice fetish because of my mother who is a famous singer.
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>>288563925
Are you saying you lust after your mother?
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>>288563617
Yes? Wilhelm loves his half-gook, half-negro grandson who never killed his wife twice
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>>288563925
Have you ever heard your mother moan while getting banged?
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>>288563946
>anon's mom is cappy
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>>288563912
Also anime version has bigger TATAS. Less whore, more tits.
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>>288563975
Wilhelm is based. Helped Subaru-kun and Remu defeat a fat bitch.
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>>288563975
>Imperial cucks.
At least Vollachia's ruling party wasn't infested with Sin Archbishop pawns...
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>>288563946
For a long while she was the only woman in my life, i cant deny it that at some point i felt serious lust toward her.
>>288563979
I caught her schlicking once while she was on the toilet, she didnt moan tho
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>>288564047
It’s better than that one ped that spams meili
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>>288563995
It would be interesting being her biological son.
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S1 > S4 > S2 > S3
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>Oniisan is scared of Meili
But why?
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>>288552860
>>288552907
Okay but why did AI do the thing that he knows will have her kill him 100s of times over?
Clearly since she knows she just has to do it until he stops arguing with her, he should know better than to argue with her.
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>>288564202
She's a predator
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>>288564245
Because he cares about her and doesn’t want her harmed in any way? He’s insane like Subaru, he has to at least try.
I’d do the same.
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S2 > S1 > S3 > S4
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>>288555256
One could argue that the counter to hyper logical characters are passionate lunatics. This goes for Al, Roswaal, Echidna and others too. If we use gaming terms.. the one that learns strategy in a fighting game vs a very fast button masher.



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