Legitimately, was there anything he could've done to avoid his fate?
>>288586090His advantage is having a better tolerance for implants given how people went cyberpsycho with way less. But that's also one of his biggest flaws, thinking himself too special. He bit off more than he can chew thinking he can take it.
>>288586090Installing mods, or being white
No. Wrong city, wrong people
>>288586090Literally not join a Fixer gang filled with psychopathic retards?
>>288586090He should've tried being a Corpo agent named Vincent working for a Zaibatsu.
>>288586090No. That's the whole point. That's what makes it's a tragedy. He got to live, properly live, and by living and he was doomed.
>>288586090Fuck becca.
>>288586090No. The point of the setting is everyone gets fucked in the end
>>288586090>is it possible to change a character's fate if they made different decisions?
>>288586090You gotta wonder if he took up Arasaka's offer when they called, would they make him an assassin working for them, or just try to harvest the tech out of his spine?
>>288586090Yeah, be more careful about what jobs he was taking and why.
>>288587933It's also a noir story, he met the woman and followed her to his doom
>>288588022That's why I have yet to meet hanako at embers in my current run
>>288586090He could have met V.
>>288588768V's entire squad got murked and whoever you call at the end results in even more people dying
>>288588831V's story would've changed too with that meeting honestly.
>>288588831>not pulling off the final mission solo and survivingyou didn't beat the game
>>288591052That's just V though. Almost everyone else he associates with gets dragged into bad shit and either dies or might wish they had. He's bad news.
>>288588314He was doomed before when his mom died etc
>>288586090should've eloped with rebecca
>>288591365>he
>>288586090been born rich and outside night city
>>288591761stuff like that probably happens to a lot of people in the slums though, it's night city
>>288591944Female v players are so busy doing stealth take downs while masturbating to their boobs
>>288586090>Oh fuck I'm going through cyber psychosis and my one implant is already more than I can take>Lets install more cyberware and see what happensYes. But he would rather simp for a woman. It's his character flaw
Yeah, put the sandevistan in the fucking garbage
>>288586090Forced bad ending because technology is le bad or capitalism
>>288586090Cyberpunk stories never end will. Its by design.
>>288592454The Sande was literally the only thing that was keeping him from being a bum>>288586090Not installed Maines gear(pretty gay btw) and also he should have just ran away with Lucy after Maine bit it. Literally everyone would have lived if he did but nope he stuck around in Night City.
>>288586090There are not that many turning points.If he never joined the gang, Maine would still probably harvest the Sandevistan.Ihe took Arasaka's deal, he'd probably end up Adam Smasher junior, and still die in that very linear frame prototype.THe only at leat viable decision he could make is to retire, seek therapy and stop being a chrome junkie. But even then he was too deep into criminal world to live in peace or long enough after this.
By letting me lick his armpits and tongue his navel and swallow his cock and suck his balls and eat his ass ?
>>288594161Yeah, but he'd probably be a bum that's alive.
>>288586090Not be a retard.He had enough money to live comfortably, but he had to chase the high and that's what killed him.
Realize that Maine fucking died and that following his steps would only give him the same result.Stop getting chrome'd up.Actually try to talk things out with Lucy instead of trying to go their separate ways, or just fucking listen to her because she clearly had more sense than him at that point of the story.
>>288586090yeah fucking leave
>>288586090Yeah, he just refused to do any of them.
>>288586090Narratively, no. He's a character in a story and his ending is set from the start.If you mean, if the story was real life and he was able to make decisions, then most likely no as well, because he doesn't know his fate and therefore he can't avoid it.
>>288594208I guess you're an enjoyer of the Phantom Liberty ending
>>288594554Depends what people wanted really. If the goal is to "avoid his fate" getting rid of the sandevistan is probably the most straightforward answer.
>>288594507Holt shit anon, you are, like, sooooo smart. The rest of us would never have figured out that he was a fictional character without your help.
>>288594617Stop asking stupid questions, then.
>>288594060This, a happy ending goes against the themes of the setting.
>>288586090No. And as many anons mentioned, that's not what Cyberpunk is about. Trigger basically made an abridged version of a cocky high level CP 2022 campaign. I ran a lot of them back in the day and adam smasher ended all of them except for one.
>>288594208His lifespan would be WAY shorter if he did>>288594554NTA but the Phantom Liberty ending is way different because V genuinely has a shot at living a normal stable life without meeting a gruesome end. David, if he threw away the Sandy would have been a smear within a week.
>>288586090Perhaps leave the city with his sandevistan
>>288586090No. It was implied that Lucy swapped his chip which is what caused the classroom incident and in turn what caused his mom to die. Completely ruining his life before they ever met.There is some irony that the team he joined is the same team who fucked him up simply because they didn't know he was related to their part supplier.
>>288586090Literally anything.
He fucked with Smasher. Fatal move.
>>288586090Maybe stop watching VR gore for one thing
>>288588053Sometimes you're fated to lose no matter what, so yeah it can be a genuine question
>>288592037Doesn't mean they make it
>>288594161What would he have done after running away?
I don't know anything about the Cyberpunk game and it's setting, what is outside of Night City like? Are all major cities shitholes like Night City too, or are there still "normal" cities?
>>288598025More or less, Barely anything is known about the state of the world in 2077. The latest TTRPG goes is 2040's, and it's not a good time, but still info about the rest of the world is practically non-existent outside of broad timeline strokes. If you go to earlier editions, things were more "normal" everywhere, including Night City. It's just Night city is an idependent territory with no oversight other than it's local government, which can't do anything against the corpos.The message of the game is "Unrestrained capitalism and unrestrained technology are cool and bad", so if you want play in a "noirmal" city, play a different game. Or set your game in the Soviet Union or China.
>>288588259He wouldve become a lab rat, a fate worse than being a corpo slave
>>288586090Not getting his mom killed.
>>288586156That was all because of Gloria.
>>288594193Rushi…
>>288586090Looking for a father figure
>>288587933>He got to live, properly liveAre you brown?
He could've stopped chroming. But cyberpunks rather become LEGENDARY rather than die old smelling like piss.
>>288593998It objectively is though. You mostly can't work your way out of poverty without winning the lottery in some fashion. He probably had a lot more money when he was all chromed out than he had before, but far too little to actually retire. Like most people he's locked into doing whatever it is they need to do in order to survive and that's all there is to it.
>>288598117USSR and China are commie in name only, like 2000s China on steroidsGorbachev suceeded in his reformation but in the end companies outpowered teh government while China dealt with a brutal Maoist insurgency
The gacha collab is canon
>>288599891>blatantly immature childish "actually they meet again and are really in love and are happy" cringe shitmakes sense, gacha players aren't mature enough to deal with anything but "mindlessly content"
>>288599415True, but it's a different flavor nonetheless.
>>288599917Actually, it ends with it all ending up being a "dream" of sorts, David tells her that it's time to wake up, but that she has so much she wants to say to him, and he replies that he has too, but that she shouldn't stick around just to hear the words of a ghost.Rebbeca's ghost gives her a hug before vanishing, and tells her to take care of herself otu there.
>>288586090All of them in the anime will pose a problem if they didn't have sad/lethal ending. The TV anime fans will insist they be put in the video game.
>>288586090straight up do as his mom said. Being a normalfag is poor/average option, but you can survive. Only time you go down is being a poorfag while being caught in crossfire liek his mom>>288588259he would get disposed off. A literal who lone kid none will ask about>>288591365outside vidya game MC, the fate of a fixer is to die and you cannot avoid that. Everyone know that and they go full on with fun and parties, ebcause next offer would be either guns too big for you to take on, or straight up covered up disposal. Worst case scenario someoen hired a team to kill you, and that team is way beyond your abiliy to get away. Entire point is to have fun while you're alive. I think the perfect depiction of it was when that long arm dude got instagibed by a random psycho chrome. % minutes before that they had a partybasically, there's no happy ending in cyberpunk. You're too small to make a diffirence, and if you take down Adam Smasher, there will be even stronger gun agaisnt you or a literal army to take you down, so despite your acheivement you'll never be left alone in peace
>>288597992Join some nomad groups and leave NC?
>>288602767Don't think they generally accept outsiders.
>>288599917Lucy is going cyberpsycho.
>>288586090He could of you know stopped being a criminal.
Deibido…
>>288586090Stop chroming up. But really, his fate was sealed the moment he got the Sandevistan since some Arasaka spooks already had eyes on him for being able to tank it. He already wasn't doing well in school though so he's likely just fucked already. And even if his mom didn't die, she might've gone into trouble for stealing mil-tech off corpses.So yeah, being David is suffering.
>>288586090Anon, it's Night City. Every path ends in a terrible way, just different styles of terrible.
>>288586090Yes, stop fucking up with his body and just retire
>>288586090Don’t assault Katsuo on camera.
>>288586090Look at David at the end, do you think he wanted it any other way?
>>288603153>But really, his fate was sealed the moment he got the Sandevistan since some Arasaka spooks already had eyes on him for being able to tank it.This. What happens in the show is literally the best version of life David could have when you think about it. He gets to live a few years on a more or less constant adrenaline high, going on heists with trusted comrades, pushing his body to its theoretical limit, getting a taste of good living and also fucking a hot ride or die chick every night who also goes into battle with him. Then he goes out in a blaze of glory fighting for his friends.Shit, its a better version of life than most people live, they just don't know it. The real tragic character is Lucy.
>>288603033would be kino for a news story about the moon tourism being shut down due to a cyberpsycho in s2 of Cyberpunk
>>288600033Damn, I was hoping for an isekai.
>>288603465Anon, don't remind me. Poor Lucy lost her friends running away from Arasaka. She knew David lives on the edge so she tried to keep her distance. In the end she got together with him only for her fears to come true At least she got to fuck a slim underaged brown schoolboy
>>288586090EVERYTHING could have been done
>>288603340He looks miserable.
>>288603842would watch
>>288605827David is her Manic Pixie Dream Boy
>>288604249David was born being miserable until, Lucy showed up and made his life complete.>>288605827Lucy did nothing wrong.
>>288606566And he died alone
>>288606566She did everything wrong.
>>288606566Not true. David had great life. It was so great, that it resulted in him having a huge Humanity score.
Maybe if his hot mom didn't get killed he would have had better guidance but left to his own devices and idolizing Edgerunners means you're on the path to get yourself killed eventually, and you won't settle for anything else.The alley doc had him pegged when he said he was a chrome junkie like so many others, you chop away too much of your humanity and there's nothing else you can do but die fighting either in control or out of your mind.
>>288586090Get this lil gremlin preggers
>>288586090>>569908890>The collab is canon!It's literally so irrelevant to CB that it doesn't even matter if it's canon or not, and if it were canon to WuWa, it would introduce such a plot-shattering OP tool (can see every dream and talk to anyone in the entire multiverse, including dead people; it's easy to believe that no one on Solaris-3 has figured out what to do about the lament, but crossing worlds and probably dimensions?) that it would make you wonder how they haven't solved the main problem yet.
>>288594554"Muh bad endings" are only bad because of the studio’s poorly forced moral, accepting nUSA/Arasaka offer is the only right choice anyone would make. CDPR can't into narrative - the game punishes you if you don’t play the far-left psychopath terrorist. The same goes for the anime, David elicits no empathy whatsoever and is entirely to blame for his own misfortunes
>>288610098t.autistic sociopathplease stay away from stories and themes of humanity since you clearly lack any connection to it
>>288594507>>288594648>stupid idiot trying to look cool
>>288594554phantom liberty IS supposed to be a good ending even if V struggles with it emotionally. the game throws that Plato passage at you to make it more obvious.
>>288610119Yeah, it’s not exactly sociopathic to shoot down a several dozen people because of evil corporations
>>288610191Calling it good is a stretch, its just arguably one of the better ones. Best being with Panam because metafags know she can seek out the Technomancers to find a Deus Ex for V.
>>288586090>is there anything the junkie could've done to avoid his fate?Not be a junkie?
>>288594193Lucy.... he's a child.
>>288606566She kept Debido alive for longer than otherwise, but she also failed to hold him back from going all in over and over again.
>>288610098>David elicits no empathy whatsoever and is entirely to blame for his own misfortunes>The kid who lost his mom, lost a place in school and also lost his home is entirely to blameTrolling is a bannable offense you know if it can be objectively be proven.
>>288586090Live literally anywhere that isn't Night City. Even going nomad would have been better.
>>288607897No way, choom.
>>288586090>think for himself instead of doing what other people wanted/what he thought other people wanted>cut back on the chrome
>>288586090Not chrome out in an attempt to be like Maine. He desperately needed a role model in his life that wasn't a gangbanger.
>>288605827Lucy only pretends to be a manic pixie dream girl in first episode she meets David. If anything this is the other way around, she normalizes after he joins the gang and David starts revealing himself to be a self destructive mess after Maine dies.
>>288603340Dying unfulfilled in the worst way possible with the thought of those around you dying as well? Yeah I bet he was fully satisfied. Holy shit, nothing gets by you I bet.
>>288586090Not being a retard, listen to his mom and go to school properly. How hard is it to do? Gloria literally broke her back and does crime to give david a golden elevator to the corpo world and he threw it away by being an edgy rebelious retard. If he didn’t act out and got his mom called to school she’d still be alive. Gloria is literally every kid’s dream mother.
>>288586090should I start playing WuWa because of the collab?
>>288606757>And he died aloneNo he didn't.
>>288610788not sure who's trolling herehis mom would be alive, if she wasn't called in to beg in schoolshe wouldn't beg or come at all, if David didn't mess with school softwareDavid wouldn't mess with school software if he actually listened to his mom and updated it legal waythe only exception that can be called is that he was teenager who wasn't aware of consequences
>>288594193Becca…
>>288612898Yes he did.
>>288594554>Don't remove the cancerous mind virus from yourself. You got to be a badass night city legend fighting the system like johnny silverhandWhy is the point of Johnny turning out to a fraud used as a pawn in corpo wars and unreliable narrator lost on so many people? Was CDPR too subtle?
>>288597992mating press lucy nonstop
If I were David I would make a harem with becca and lucy, gosh, he's such a retard.
Adam smasher was such an anti climax in the game
>>288610098>CDPR can't into narrative - the game punishes you if you don’t play the far-left psychopath terroristMaybe don't make killers and spies out of kids and you won't have "far-left" (lmao, the media literacy of mutts) psychopaths to deal with in the future. Everything Songbird does is justified.
>>288612778>muh unfulfilledLet me guess, you're a big believer in therapy aren't you.
I want to spend my life ekibenning Becca
>>288613868>AAA THIS CAPITALISTIC HELLHOLE THAT DEMANDS ME TO JUSTIFY MY EXISTENCE BY "PRODOOCING" AND "WOORKING" IS ERODING MY SENSE OF SELF AND MAKING ME GO INSANE!!!>You're clearly unwell and maladjusted. Here's some 100 combinations of drugs to numb your feelings and deny your human nature.This is what people who believe in therapy unironically believe
>>288613868No.
>>288613637>Was CDPR too subtle?Unironically yes. The only point in the main story where it's told so outright was Alt telling V that just maybe Johnny isn't exactly remembering things straight. Everything else requires player to connect and compare disjointed pieces of info scattered across a 100h long game.
>>288586090If you want to live to an old age in NC your only reasonably reliable options are to either be born rich or get yourself into a corpo-slave role that isn't so important that you'd get killed for your position or in inter-corpo conflicts. And even then, you'd have to also hope you're lucky enough to not get caught up in some random shootout during your day to day. As it is, its not like you'd be living a great life just because you reach old age in such a hellhole.
>>288614402Explain how this is different from living in the USA.
>>288614445USA has slightly less neon signage and slightly less public shootings per day.
>>288586090Caught in a shitty story that couldn't make a point without killing everyone.
>>288614479You're right, the USA have more death SUV and vehicular death than NC. I guess living in the USA is more dangerous than in NC.
>>288614508I hope cp anime 2 will have no murder or deaths going on and it'll focus more on character development and philosophy
>>288614628shoujo ramune isnt getting a sequel anon
>>288586090>was there anything he could've done to avoid his fate?Yes but that's not the kind of story they wanted to portray. I think it was in the first episode even and a few others where they repeated the theme.David could have done several things but unfortunately he was guided by the city and its people to self-destruction. So in a sense it feels like a greek tragedy.
>>288586090Not simp for a bitch that was just using him would be a start
>>288586090Run away with Rebecca and marry her
>>288586090Be more careful with job selectionNot chroming beyond his limit.
>>288588768>>288591365>>288588831V is literally the most powerful character in cyberpunk universe.At the end he became a one man merc squad that surpasses every known legend including morgan blackhand.
>>288586090Unless the money from the sandevistan would have been enough to pay for rent and school till graduation, not really. At least not after his mom died. In one way or another he would have ended up doing shady shit ti survive and likely dying, or becoming a lab rat if anyone discovered his implant tolerance.If the money was enough then he did kinda fuck up, but even then he was just going to become part of the cyberpunk version of the corporate rat race in hard mode cause no nepotism.
So why did the "power of being the MC" allow V to run rings around Smasher like he's nothing but not David?
>>288586090Will they ever make an anime that is 12 episodes of no filler, a fight every episode, plot every episode, and the characters don't look like ugly westoid adjacent goblins?
>>288615342Because V is actually Built Different™. Also probably because of Johnny.
>>288615299it was worth what, 10k eddies? enough for a few months at least
>>288614632kek
>>2886153421) V is what David thought he was2) Keanu Reeves is in your head3) It's a video game and you have to be able to beat the final boss unless you want to listen to 5 million faggots complain about it online for the next 25 years
>>288615371yeah I think its pretty confirmed that he staved off cyberpsychosis because he had 2 "brains" to carry the load. although it was killing him in other ways.Its not a leap to then assume that extra processing power gave him an edge too. Only David's body was good at handling the chrome, not his mind.
>>288615342Brendan describes V perfectly. "Anomaly that should not exist but still it is here"V is technically a walking corpse with 2 personalities inside. Because of that V is able to chrome himself up to the impossible level while still maintaining sanity and sobre thinking.
>>288588259>just try to harvest the tech out of his spine?arasaka didn't give a shit about his sandevistan, i doubt they even gave that much of a shit about david, they probably just wanted to zero him to tie off a loose end and get closer to lucythis was one year before they started trying to sell literal immortality tech and the unchained AI doomsday device living under pacifica was found>>288594554> V still has the ability to use cyberware, NUSA just used him as a wetwork agent for two years then mindwiped him and sent him back in as a sleeper >>288615342within the context of the meta, V has basically infinity humanity stat which means he fundamentally doesn't get cyberpsychosis and his cyberware capacity is limited basically by his number of nerve endingsnot only does the relic actively heal V's brain (while also erasing him) but it adds processing power and Johnny lives in your head constantly sharing the load and talking you down off the ledgekilling smasher is not even remotely the most impressive thing V's doneexhibit A: V tapping the blackwall to fry tens of black-ops agents running custom military-grade ICE at once by throwing a lovecraftian AI into their heads, something that fries Songbird so bad each time she uses it that she has to feed said demons her own beloved personal memories to even start to use it.
>>288616016> V tapping the blackwall to fry tens of black-ops agents running custom military-grade ICE at once by throwing a lovecraftian AI into their headsDid V actually do anything in that case? I thought the frying of the agents was all Alt, V didn't even seem to know what the hell was happening at first.
>>288615905>It's a video game and you have to be able to beat the final boss unless you want to listen to 5 million faggots complain about it online for the next 25 yearsKEK but true, I wonder if we imit vidya as a medium too much to keep certain fantasies intact. I'm no fan of forced bad endings, but after years of videogames being eternal blandness with some sweets, I'd gladly have some sour if it's tasty enough.
>>288586090A story as old as time>literally just don't become a criminal lmao Its not that deep. He should of just done white color crime after getting into some corporation
>>288615905>2) Keanu Reeves is in your headJohnny being in V's head was pretty meh. Now if it was Morgan Blackhand though...
>>288616078>Did V actually do anything in that case?i'm talking about PL/Killing Moon where Song links with you and you use the blackwall to fry like 70 NUSA spec ops guys and an attack helicopter at the spaceportalternately Somewhat Damaged where you just get access to the Militech Canto after killing the guardian of the underworld that allows you to do the exact thing that's turned Song into a walking husk as much as you want with almost no drawbackbut it is also almost funny how many times V has been hit by some kind of lethal cyberattack only to kind of fall over and get back up five seconds later being his plucky self and being like "whoa what the fuck was that." Like he canonically face-tanks>nightcorp lethal virus that kills lucius rhine>scav virus that fried sandra dorsett>blackwall pulse from alt>voodoo boy lethal virus that makes placide shit himself when you show back up>>288616145>I'm no fan of forced bad endingsevery ending of CP2077 is a bad endingthere's nothing really good about killing adam smasher, he has no idea who you are and it's somewhat likely that JS didn't really have any real beef with him at all anyway
>>288586090Maybe if he and Lucy met earlier and had a more developed relationship by the time his mom died but otherwise no, the way things were set up this choom was doomed.
>>288615294>>288616003>having mental illness like adam sandler or brain disorder like V made you CP's most powerful individualWhat did CDPR mean by this? Is this another of their polish subtlety?
>>288616264adam smasher's kind of just like a bug person and V is just master chieve but instead of a girl that calls him a studmuffin, he has a deadbeat scumbag that smells like stale cigarettes in his headeveryone with mental illness is a repulsive weirdo like the bald selfcuck twins, cow farm pedophile, and the andy dick ripperdoc
>>288610098The Arasaka offer that doesn't heal V, and/or uploads his consciousness to "totally not virtual hell" should be a good ending? If you're going to be an obedient little goyim atleast have some logic to it, not a circular "right is gud, corpo is right, so corpo is GUD!1!1!1"And The Tower ending is not a bad ending at all, sad and bland as hell but one of the best written and best outcomes for V. It's popular for a reason.
>>288616389V going with the nomad is my headcanon ending. Nomads are quite technologically advanced unlike how they're portrayed in the game as tech gypsies, they have access to top of the line bio tech from stormtech which is allied with the aldecados. Also, leaving all that life behind by embracing the road is a direct parallel to David's whose life ended in the rat race towards the top.
He's made for tight white pussy
>>288616501Lucy isn’t white.
>>288616539Shes half white.
>>288616435Plus Misty says everything will work out and Misty is always right.
>>288616578This too. Also arasaka is not exactly known for precise bio and nano technology, their main products are paramilitary group, manufacturing, and banking. It's like if Verizon does some freaky neuralink tech stuff. It's bound to be wrong, especially seeing the shard as some top secret all in house product.
>>288586090he could've done what i would have done and moved in with becca and bang her all day every day
>>288612796if you like gachashit then probably yes, if no then just watch someone's playthroughiirc there's an option to skip the game's main story so that you can play this cyberpunk event if you would rather go through the slog than watching other's playthrough
>>288586090Not overuse the fucking sandy?
A Becca gf would have saved him.
>>288616016>spoilerdid I miss something? or is that headcanon? Either way, sounds plausible for the NUSA>>288616435I do like that one, especially for MaleV with Panam. It leaves a glimmer of hope. I also think the not-acually-Johnny takeover ending isn't "bad," depending on how much of a death wish, out with a blaze of glory you played V
>>288616389>One of the bestIt is the best because V gets to escape the game entirely. All of his contacts think he is gone,have moved on, he left a legend and he has the opportunity for a high paying low risk job.>>288616435The Tower im certain is what CP will roll with if they ever decide to bring V or any of his buddies back. It depowers V and keeps Smasher alive which im certain is something that Pondsmith himself would prefer at the end of the day.
>>288586090All people in that city are doomed, so no
>>288616202Did you make those typos on purpose in order to appear stupid
>>288586090Take all his savings and Leave the city alongside Rebecca and Lucy and start a business like a restaurant or a cafe somewhere far far away from that city.Fuck the moment Rebecca started to notice something was wrong with him she should had taken him and Lucy and force them to leave that city to convince him to stop with the machine upgrades.I think he was too obsessed with the words of his mother about "making it to the top of the city" to prioritize his own happiness so that why he decided to stay.
>>288603029they absolutely do
>>288613775every fight in the game was trivial with slow time throwing knife headshots
>>288586090Oh plenty. David could have sold the Sandevistan. Or he could have become Katsuo's crony. Or he could have cut back on the Chrome. Or, really, any number of things.But if he did, David wouldn't have been David. That's what makes it a tragedy.
>>288586090Stay in school? Get a job? Literally anything.
>>288586090David needed an actual rational male figure in his life. Love Maine but god he was digging himself in the hole.
>>288586090Yes. Leave NC. Literally simple as that.Abandon all that it is you knew, and take on new life outside. The same choice as give to V, but Dabid had the advantage of he wasn't slowly dying from the relic chip.
>>288616389Corpo V going for the Arasaka ending only to not take the final step and just decide to fuck it and go back to live out their final months free is the single best ending the game has to offer, imo. Especially when Hanako calls V on the way down to talk about working for her again. Doesn't even matter if it hapens, at the end the corpos started calling V. Thats the best part, no other ending offers this kind of vindication for one of the origins life story.
