seems like it's the standards to always think the manga is superior to the anime, but for me it's the opposite, i will in the majority of the cases prefer the anime over the manga, i guess i'm a weirdo with unpopular preferences
Most of /a/ is like that. Manga is not liked that much on here. It's mostly relegated to dumps that nobody cares about, or people posting borderline porn in one page threads. And I don't know if having a specific manga board would help or not.
>>288592864I agree that anime is the superior medium, but often the source material gets butchered and/or censored when being adapted into in anime. In these instances, the manga is preferable.
>>288592864Good anime adaption > good manga > average manga > average animeSometimes the stories are butchered and more often than not incomplete, but when done well anime shines.
>>288593084i prefer the first season of the tokyo ghoul anime over the manga, but since the anime shitted the afterwards i ended up prefering the rest of the manga
>>288592864Anime is the more prestigious medium historically, in terms of artistry, pedigree of industry greats and relationships with other mediums. But it got muddled by developing a dependency towards manga in the commercial mainstream. Now it's beyond addicted to the manga pipeline for production and the "manga sensibility" Miyazaki has talked about.You can name serious masterpieces of Japanese animation from back in the 40s and 50s. One struggles to do the same for manga, which matured to a similar level only by the 60s.
>>288593644>Miyazakiopinion discarded
>>288592864>i feel like i'm the only one who prefers anime over mangaWhat are you talking about? Just see the amount of people who watch anime and compare to the amount of people who read manga. The majority watches the shows. It is easier.
>>288592864Anime is 95% of time shit especially when it comes to adaptations. I find that even the adaptations that are praised as good are very, VERY lacking compared to their source material when it comes to storyboarding, direction and understanding of the material and its strengths.
>>288593886It's really not, manga is a brainless activity in comparison. Basically for time wasting.
>>288592864Eh, I like manga better but then I read a lot of jank that will never get an anime.
>>288593887too bad i think the complete opposite of that
>>288594007it's okay to be wrong
>>288594007Well good for you, you're wrong.
>>288594020>>288594044it's not wrong it's just a different preference
I hate anime because dubs sound like shit and watching with subs just feels like I'm skimming a worse version of the manga but in color. Maybe if I learned Japanese I'd enjoy it more
>>288593693Thanks for your input. I will now post Miyazaki's opinion in detail for people to read.https://www.nausicaa.net/miyazaki/interviews/aboutanime.html>Japanese animation started when we gave up moving. That was made possible by introducing the methods of manga (including gekiga). The technique of cel anime was suited to obvious impacts, and it was designed so that the viewers would see nothing but powerfulness, coolness, and cuteness. Instead of putting life into a character with gestures or facial expressions, (character design) was required to express all the charm of the character with just one picture.>Strangely, theorists who justified this situation appeared during these times. There were people who said that it was time for limited animation, or that a still picture was a new expression and we no longer need movement.>Not only the design and personalities of the characters, but time and space were also completely deformed. The time needed for a ball thrown by a pitcher to reach the catcher's mitt was limitlessly extended by the passion put into the ball. And animators pursued powerful movement (to express) this extended moment. Depicting a narrow ring as a huge battlefield was justified as it is equal to a battlefield for the hero.(cont.)
>>288594112>The role of the techniques to move pictures was limited to emphasizing and decorating the extended and skewed time and space. The depiction of characters' action in everyday life, which (Japanese anime) was not good at to start with, was actively eliminated as something unnecessary and out-of-date. Absurdity was strongly pursued. The criteria for judging an animator's capability was changed to (the capability to animate) battles, matches, or detailed drawing of machines, an emphasis on the power of any arm, from nuclear to laser weapon. If there were a depiction of (character's) feeling, the method of manga was easily borrowed to get it done with music, angle, or decorating one still picture, without motion. It came to be considered as a rather uninteresting sequence, a section where the animators could take a rest. Animators became more inclined to judge only on the flashiness of the movement when they considered the value of the sequence they were to animate.>For example, a hero who can only sneer, since if he smiles that would screw his face up. A heroine with huge eyes that suddenly turn into dots without any connection between these two types of eyes. Extremely deformed characters with no sense of existence pretend to be cool in a deformed colorful world by extending time as much as they want-- that has become the major characteristic of Japanese anime.>When this expressionism first appeared, it was justified by "passion" which was in fashion at that time. Indeed, when the audience got excessively involved with the piece of work, and sympathized with it more than the work expressed, this method was overwhelmingly supported (by the audience). Kyojin no Hoshi in the high-growth era was one example[8]. However, as the passion wore out, it merely became the easiest pattern of technique. And to turn around the adverse situation, expression in anime more and more became excessively decorative.
>>288592864You are too normalfaggy for this site.
>>288594093Sometimes it's basically an objective statement though
>>288594093Cope.
modern anime is fucking terrible
>>288594157i love modern anime, it's very underrated
>>288593928Reading objectively demands more brain activity than watching. But you knew that when you made this stupid ass post.
>>288594188so you guys don't watch anime with subtitles?
>>288592896>Manga is not liked that much on here.Because the vast majority of the shitposters here are functionally illiterate.
>>288594227If you want to talk about subs then at best anime would be equal to manga in terms of being something you do actively. But depending on the series, the manga could have much more text to read than the anime, where they may have removed things for it to flow better as an animation. I read manga in Japanese but watch anime with subs so reading subs in English requires less brain activity than reading manga in Japanese. But I realize not everyone is like that. It's stupid to say reading is less active than watching animation though, even if the animation also requires reading subtitles.
so this board hates anyone who prefers anime?
>>288594387People usually don't have a reason why they like anime more other than muh color and sound and shit like that, which is just as retarded as saying you prefer movies over books because they have cinematography. It's a fact that anime adaptations are often poor in a number of ways, the easiest ones to see are in how they portray specific scenes and how they're more often than not incomplete. People who stick to originals are more tolerable because they're at least not defending a worse piece of media just because it has the equivalent of jingling keys to keep people's attention better.
>>288594188Nah, your stupid ass post isn't accounting for overall attention span requirements involved in skimming a page vs watching an episode.
>>288594387No, you're probably talking to shounen retards. Anyone who watches more than just Jump stuff prefers anime.
>>288594461you seem like an incredibly jaded and cynical person, i'm kinda sorry for you.
>>288594461>"muh sound" as if it's not an incredibly important aspect of a productionWhat a fucking subhuman
>>288594486shonen anime is basically my favorite and most underrated genre of anime, idk why it gets so much hate
>>288594486LMAO what? If anything if you read more than Jump shit you're likely going to be into stuff that doesn't even get an anime, or maybe takes forever to get an anime. Jump shit is the only stuff to be more or less guaranteed to get an anime. >>288594494How am I jaded for disliking people clamoring that a shit anime adaptation is better than its source and spamming threads about that kind of thing on /a/? And OP especially pisses me off by thinking he's some special snowflake for having the majority opinion on /a/. >>288594496There you go again using something manga cannot have as a medium to say anime is better. I could say that anime doesn't have paneling and so it's worse than manga but that would make me as retarded as you. Or maybe books are worse than music because books don't have melody.
>>288594526honestly as long as you don't self reflect and actually re read what you are writing, you will probably continue to go on your life as miserable as you are
>>288594575I like reading manga so I'm not that miserable. Unfortunately reality is the complete opposite of what OP was saying and so it does make it difficult. Maybe you could actually say what you mean instead of making passive-aggressive nothing posts. But I don't expect too much out of animeonlies.
>>288594093How is it preference, retard? Adaptations are not made equal, and that's a fact. Many adaptations fail to capture and faithfully represent the qualities of the source material either because of their limited budget or due to an incompetent director.This has to be the lowest average IQ thread on this board right now with the stupid shit I'm reading here.
>>288594638>>288594679well it seems so far people who hate on people who prefer anime like you guys are jerks for no real reason, maybe it's a for to compensate for something missing in your lives or something
>>288592864most manga are just trash reads and perform better as animation.
>>288594840>anon who admits to being averse to reading in the OP has garbage reading comprehensionshocker
In purely objective terms, anime is obviously the superior medium because it has the added features of music, animation and voice acting. Above anime is video games which adds interactivity. But just because something is in the better medium it doesn't necessarily mean it benefits from it, rather the opposite because there are more ways you can screw up. The simpler the medium the more quality works it has, because it's both easier to create and execute. There are more good manga than good anime and there are more good novels than good manga.
>>288594840This thread is the latest in a long line of constant threads shitting on manga so you'll forgive me if I've already lost any patience I might have had when dealing with people like you. Especially when you're being so smug and insufferable in all of your posts.
>>288594938i perfectly understand what you guys are saying, and saying i'm sorry for you guys and there's nothing anyone else can do or say to help you improve as a person other than yourself
>>288594526You're right and they're coping with nothing to come back at you. Good on you, brother.
>>288592864Why?
>>288594387No, mangaonlies are an obnoxious loud minority.
>>288595019>In purely objective terms, anime is obviously the superior medium because it has the added features of music, animation and voice actingThis is the most retarded sentence I've read in a long time. What next? Is anime objectively superior to books because it has pictures?
I feel like people who actually read manga tend to prefer it, but more people are animeonlies.
>>288596176Do those even exist here? /a/ has very little discussion for manga compared to how much of it is out there and places like 5ch aren't any different. You'd have to be a complete bandwagoner that only reads the most popular series if you wanted to spend your time here. Most of the obnoxious people are tourists that barely read or watch anything.
>>288596267Yes you fucking moron. The MEDIUM is superior. Like having both eyes and ears is objectively better than having only one of them.
Anime originals > All Manga. Only chimps who exclusively watch shitty light novel adaptations disagree.
>>288596931That's completely retarded. These are different art forms and different mediums with different goals. You can't powerscale them. A movie isn't a "superior medium" to a theater play, which isn't superior to paintings which isn't superior to sculptures. Movies aren't superior to music just because they incorporate visuals on top of song.
>>288596945Actual subhuman tier post. Barely sentient
How do you cope with 98% of anime adaptations being straight downgrades or sidegrades at best?
>>288596945There are good anime originals and there's certainly many bad anime originals.
>>288596976I can watch every anime out there. I will never be able to read more than a small fraction of manga.
>>288596998For almost every single anime adaptation you watch you'd be reading the vastly superior manga version in half the time.
>>288596998Being born with a seriously concerning defect isn't something to take pride in.
>>288596966It is true though.The director of Gundam keeps being awarded new cultural merit awards from the Emperor & Japanese government every year. While manga authors also get these, none of them get several like he has. Because manga factually sucks ass.
>>288597009>you don't get it THE GOBERMENT SAID MY CARTOON WAS GOODYou're not ensouled. Holy shit this board has gone to shit.
>>288597019Anon the OP should have made it clear enough that this thread is merely an opportunity to converse with the dumbest people on this board. If you want anything more, just hide it and move on.
>>288597033Yeah my bad I should have noticed earlier.
>>288597019The government said itRegular people say itIndustry workers said itKids say itOtaku say itAnons on /a/ say itEveryone says itNone of this matters though, the superior quality of the work is objective and cannot be denied.
>>288597003I need breaks between sessions of reading manga that I use to watch anime.
>>288596955They're superior because they're supersets. A movie can easily limit itself to just being a song. A song can't show you visuals. One can do literally everything the other can but not vice versa. This has nothing to do with how many good movies or songs there are. One is objectively the superior medium.
>>288597068Being a superset has nothing to do with superior art forms. This is a ridiculous argument, everyone knows that by definition a movie contains visuals and sound. That's not what makes a piece of art and there are no supersets for this.
>>288597068A paragraph in a book can describe complex landscapes and even give you some exposition alongside it. You might need like tens of minutes of narration for a longer passage of this sort. It's evidently not even a "superset" by the criteria you described, because it can't translate these things one-for-one, nor would any sane director ever want to do it this way.
>>288597094Pic related shows my disdain and amusement at your lack of understanding in a way you could never do in mere words. By adding visuals I can now access an entirely new range of expressions which you can't. Go ahead try and argue with just words. This is the power of the superior medium.
>>288597139Or you could just show the landscape.
>>288597177And I could put into words things that wouldn't be captured by your little reaction pic. Then you'd say "but I can just stop my movie to have the narrator read that text, or even just write it onscreen for the watcher to read himself" but that'd be missing the point, a movie isn't a book, so if your movie were to do that it wouldn't achieve the same result as a book. Yes technically a movie is a "container" of more things than books but that's COMPLETELY besides the point and missing what ART is trying to achieve. You're conflating information transfer with art and that's fucking retarded. You can even record a sculpture in a movie, that wont replace the sculpture. A movie doesn't "beat" a theater play. You're basically going in circles just restating what about everyone on Earth knows: a movie contains visuals and sounds. Wow good fucking job Einstein.
>>288597188>guy who doesn't read can't even finish reading ONE entire sentence before saying more stupid shitUnwinnable arguments in this thread.
>>288597188Are you actually arguing a picture of a landscape is literally just a perfect 1:1 replacement for its description? Are you underage?
>>288597208I never brought up theatre play or sculptures because they're not subsets of movies. Theatre plays are live and sculptures are tactile. You're the one conflating a medium with art.
>>288597245Forget about sculptures and plays, you haven't addressed the rest of my point. Your .mp4 can deliver the equivalent of a .txt or a .mp3, but your movie isn't delivering a book (and in fact it very much can't for a lot of reasons), the difference is very clear.
>>288597261Have you ever heard of audiobooks?
>>288598027An audiobook isn't a movie, it's not a book either, only an approximation of it. Point very much stands, because an audiobook is very, very different from a movie/song and even from a regular book reading experience
Animefaggots are inferior/thread
>>288592864Original anime > most mangaI've yet read a manga even from the indie scene that's hit the same as most original anime.
