How would you fix the ending?
Hard to say. I wasn't a huge fan of the time stuff, but removing that might be more difficult than I'd like. Maybe I'd just make it so Paradis is explicitly destroyed quickly, like within 2-3 generations. The Cringevengers knew what they were doing when they stopped Eren. Might've been for the good of the world, but it was going to hurt Paradis. The anime makes it seem like Paradis was instead destroyed in something pretty much unrelated, as opposed to the manga which I felt was a lot closer in terms of the timetable.
I'd put a giant message on screen at the start of every openong theme that says>YOU WILL NEVER BE A WOMANso trannys like you wouldn't be here seething a decade later
>>288622689Aliens or a treasure in the end of the ocean.
>>288622689What's supposed to be wrong with the ending in the first place?
>>288622834lol
>>288622778well Eren wanted them to stop him so if Paradis gets destroyed soon after they all end up looking like idiots
>>288622689Give it the original ending Isayama wanted >Manlet is the father
Make the crying guy the winner who gets everything he wants and kill all of his enemies off.
>>288622689cut everything post timeskip
Honestly, I'd breed Yelena.
>>288622689Eren wins so my based beliefs are vindicated
>>288622689idk, by leaving it alone?
>>288622689>They still defeat the Eresaurus by killing Sieg>Rumbling stops>Eren had foreseen this and is actually still in a crystal in Paradis and remote controlled the Eresaurus>Emerges from his crystal and heads to Historia>Baby [from farmCHAD of course] born just in time to receive Sieg's beast, as Eren had foreseen>Eren touches the baby to touch a shifter with royal blood>The rumbling restarts, the Avengers are far too far away now to do anything but put up a valiant last stand all the same>Mikasa dies, which Eren had foreseen too but he's struck with grief all the same.>Outside world is completely axed>What's left of the avengers returns home.>Paradis is highly divided about Eren's actions, half of it supports Eren, half the Avengers>A few years later.>Eren visits Mikasa's grave>Sees Armin there too by accident, they haven't spoken in a long time>Paradis on the verge of war between the faction that supported Eren and the faction that supported the avengers>Armin asks Eren whether it was worth it>He cryptically replies that he always felt it was a bad idea, but “had to do it”.>They both agree that peace simply isn't possible. War is in man's nature, and the only thing that can unite men is a greater common threat, take that away, and they will war among each other>They both hug and cry and say that next time they meet, they might be enemies in what little time they both still have to live.>Volume extra showing Historia getting absolutely farmed hard.Is it not kino?
Have Eren and Historia have the baby together purely so that Zeke could meet Ymir, now reincarnated as Eren's child and given a second chance, and realise his love for his niece, the literal representation of the Eldian people, and forgive himself and his father and love again and tell her she's special for being born. Isayama did all the setup for this level of kino and instead he did nothing with any of these elements
>>288626306Any ending that does not involve Historia geting a hot hard farming is not acceptable.
>>288626306I'm glad Eren died a virging. Their I fucking said it.
>>288622689I would've made Historia's husband black
>>288622689Devilman-style ending where Eren kills all of humanity and then weeps over Armin's corpse
>>288622689Reading Steiner and Eren getting it right eventually
>>288622689Lower the chapter release frequency so i can think things through and pace it better instead of doorslamming plot armor all over the place and making the metaphysics elements more confusing than it should.Also more internal glimpes at Eren's psychological state. The rest is all right.>>288627248Its a fixed timelime though
>genocide le bad>Paradis gets genocided anyways later
>>288622689Have less of the cast support the avengers resulting in Eren finishing the rumbling, but being defeated afterwards with it being implied that he allowed it to happen. Entirely cut the conversation with Armin, replace it with a monologue from a couple different characters with a timelapse in the background with a small hint of the outside world eventually recovering. A bittersweet ending for everyone involved in a bittersweet series.
>>288622689with the canonical ending
>the cycle of violence is a poisonous truth of our world>that intoxicating poison also affects the protagonist homeland as it should>even then, every act against this poison and by extension this cycle, is worth in and of itself, we should strive for this miracle to reach a better future.
>>288622689>Floch never dies>Have Armin, Mikasa and the entire cuck squad seemingly succeed in stopping Eren then get immediately betrayed by the Marleyans>Eren is alive through War Hammer titan bullshit and actually never left Eldia>He was actually in the basement of the house Historia was at>Eren touches his newborn baby and finishes the Rumbling >Eldians get to freely leave the island and repopulate the Earth The end. Also include a contingency where the few Eldians in other countries get shielded from the Rumbling. It was really that simple
Aliens (extra-terrestrials)
>>288627770
>>288626715Let this man cook.
>>288626250>>288627751You will never have an ethnostate.
>>288628643Wrong, I play stellaris.
>>288622689Eren completes the rumbling bur accidentally kills his friends. Paradis destroys itself in a civil war because they ran out of enemies. Eren sits devastated on the beach while holding a seashell. He finally got the clean slate he wished for but not the way he wanted.It's pure misery porn but that's how the story and it's themes were set up.
>>288622689Remove the>Ymir loved King Fritztwist. Eren losing and Cringevengers is one thing; that was another can of worms. And of course the time travel, as Eren killing his own mother is another shit tier twist.
Eren frees Ymir, not Mikasa, and when he releases the titan curse it's either for good when he wins, or when the Eldians need it most when he loses.Armin actually grows into being a proper successor to Erwin, backs Yelena's 50-year-plan and is totally fine with Historia sacrificing herself and her children in order to avoid a fullscale rumbling. The rumbling should only be used in self-defense against military targets and to buy time for Paradis to industrialize. The alliance that forms after the rumbling is on a razor's edge and it takes a lot of effort to keep Levi from killing Annie when she first reappears.No pregnancy subplot. Historia leads the peace talks instead of the absolute autist that is Hange, but they still find themselves pleading to a wall (heh). No one wants to work with them except opportunists who want their natural resources. As their peril grows, so does the wedge between Eren and Armin, starting as small disagreements, to shouting arguments, to a complete and total falling out after he goes rogue in Liberio and forces the SC's hand.Either Eren wins and Paradis is shown falling into civil war or Armin wins and Eren rumbles half the earth, making everyone more racist towards Eldians and leading to their downfall, basically pic related is the ending if Armin wins, but there's also talk of how Marley and Hizuru are planning to attack each other as soon as Paradis is defeated, so even then the whole "cycle of war never ends" point of the story is made. To me, Attack on Titan is the antithesis of Code Geass, where a Lelouch route shouldn't ever work.Finally, the only way Eren loses is with nerfs to the Founding Titan since he can put everyone to sleep or change their memories or make them literally incapable of fighting him.
>>288627770Trigger...
>>288626715this
>>288622834But trannies loved the ending ruining the series because White Nationalists were getting attached to Eren
>>288626250>>288627751>Eren is alive through War Hammer titan bullshit and actually never left EldiaI want this ending even if just for that titan's ability to be useful
>>288622689starting with the basics: make Ymir an actual character. what I would've wanted in addition:>kill Armin and use that for Eren's development>show how Eren's god powers didn't allow him to edit the timeline because we're simply supposed to believe something impossible>reduce the heroic sacrifices at the end while also reducing the Alliance's plot armor>improve the shitty dialogue>kill Armin>make Eren a well-written character and not a plot device that follows the script/Ymir>kill Mikasa>give Historia importance (her arc is awful)>stop dropping more characters arcs>avoid the massive inconsistencies/retcons so it doesn't look like a joke>don't do fake drama (Annie leaves because her father probably died but then the protagonists' parents are conveniently saved)>kill Armin>avoid a happy ending after a worldwide massacre>make the worldbuilding at least decent>don't drop Zeke's arc>use Hizuru for something real instead of a pointless sacrifice and a boat that could've belonged to any other country (basically improve the worldbuilding)>explain more about the worm or have the Alliance chase it>try to deliver a coherent message instead of considering several plans and then pulling an asspull with "Ymir needed to see Mikasa" (did she see the future or not?)>don't make the Alliance ambassadors of peace in a Yeagerist society, it's unrealistic, inoffensive, and they're war criminals>kill Armin>how the hell did Mikasa travel that far carrying Eren's head?>properly structure the supernatural systems>proper character writing (chp1 problem)>use slightly smarter strategies>don't make giant leaps based on nonsense guesses because the author is in a hurry to write>don't listen to the Twitter fandom>avoid pointless shipping and romance stuff (we're in the middle of a genocide)>kill Annie>kill Armin
>>288622689The writing will improve. How? By replacing Isayama with a good writer; the setup had a lot of potential.
Give the farmer some lines and ykwhat name him adolf for the memes and make it clear that he raped Historia but she fell in love with him anyway that’s what I would do also I would have Gabi fall in love with an adult notmuslim i think that would be good for the plot yeah…
>>288622689Eren rapes Armong.
>>288622689By copying the ending that he intended to steal from the beginning.
>>288622689I wouldn't.I'm glad you all hate it and it killed the hype.
>>288622689nothing. it's perfect. you really can't fix it. you either write last 20 chapters from scratch or leave it as it is.
>>288628643Why do you even quote us together. In my version at the end Eldia just destroys itself due to warring among each other with the conclusion being that piece cannot be achieved and people will war among themselves the moment the threat of a greater common enemy to unite them disappears.
>>288622689more JM moments
>>288622689for starters,make that murderer assassin bitch that Annie is pay for her crimes instead of not only getting away with this but also getting praised
Mikasa sleeps with Jean in a mix of terror and a search for love. Eren destroys the entire world because he's genuinely impossible to stop and has gone mad. For his anger to make more sense, Armin should have died (I mean, how was he supposed to survive that?). Eren kills Levi, Connie, and Reiner in self-defense, several people commit suicide, and Historia dies in childbirth because of muh medieval society. Eren destroys everything except Paradis and realizes that Jean has impregnated Mikasa, so the only thing he had left is gone. In another nihilist rage, he destroys Paradis after seeing that his only remaining family no longer appreciates him, also make Mikasa afraid of Eren. Eren is the only human left, and the series ends with him in a sea of blood. The cycle of hatred never ended, and that's how Ymir (freed because huh there are no more Eldians left, except for the founder) sends a message to Eren from the past until a timeline is created where he uses his god powers in a coherent way because Ymir ehh huh king's vow, implying that the cycle of hatred can be broken but is stronger than peace or something like that. I just wanted Jean to impregnate Mikasa and for Eren to see it
>>288628643I'm Jewish, I already have an ethnostate goy.
>>288622689Remove all the stupid shit about Ymir playing 4d chess to heal her trauma by watching murder-incest.
>>288628811>>Ymir loved King FritzI don't understand why so many people were upset about that. So many women stay with their abusive husbands and Stockholm Syndrome is a real thing. Plus wasn't she shown dying while trying to save him some episodes before it was revealed she loved him? I mean why else would she do that, loving him doesn't seem like much of a twist.
>>288622689Been a long time since I watched it but the entire last 10% of the story should be rewrittenThe ending was the culmination of many bad decisionsAnyway, off the top of my headThere should have been some conflict regarding AnnieThe Historia romance subplot should have happenedHave the main cast be split between pro and anti rumbling supporters (instead of everyone being anti rumbling). NO CRINGEVENGERS. This provides some degree of tension, having major characters support Eren and fight to the death with their titan-powered former comrades. Floch is great and all, but he's just ONE (1) regular guy, c'mon now.Now for the rumbling itself. Either have Eren lose or have Eren win. The whole "genocided 80% of the world for nothing" thing the ending had is genuinely baffling.
>>288632431But if she loved him so much, why did she commit suicide instead of regenerating instantly? Even the king says so. And what does this obsessive love contribute to the series? A supernatural being in a toxic/PTSD relationship participates in the genocide of 80% of the population and stops it because of a random, nonsensical event that she supposedly could have seen in the future (what they see in the future is basically what the plot needs, so it's possible she didn't bit this opne even more questions) (it's even more stupid when the entire last season was about proposing plans for the Eldians, ending in a no-win situation, and then suddenly Ymir and...Mikasa???). Overall, she's an awful and nonsensical character, and another part of why the ending is so bad it seems like a joke.
>>288632839>why did she commit suicide instead of regenerating instantlyJust because she loved him doesn't mean she wanted to live I guess was the implication, like with Reiner in the rubble>And what does this obsessive love contribute to the series? My interpretation was that it was supposed to mirror the relationship between Mikasa and Eren. They're both basically female super soldiers who are enslaved to an evil maniac because of their unrequited love for him. That's why seeing Mikasa free herself and kill Eren is what allows Ymir to finally move on. Eren secretly loving Mikasa kind of throws a wrench into that, but no one ever knew that so I'd argue her love is still unrequited. One could even argue that Eren purposefully never showed any affection towards Mikasa so that she can kill him more easily and thus free Ymir.
>>288622689Let Erin kill all those pieces of shit.
>>288633504This is also my interpretation. However, it seems that the series was originally leaning toward connecting Ymir to Historia. There were similar lines, possible parallels, and even Isayama's editor mentioned that the character was given less importance later on (which may explain why it was dropped and why her conversation with Eren was cut).Moreover, the Mikasa parallel depends on Ymir's love being genuine, yet many interpretations point more toward Stockholm syndrome (implying Mikasa's love was genuine). Eren seems to care about her, but did King Fritz love her as well? These are all rather strange forms of love. And did Ymir really not see anyone like that in 2,000 years? Did her truly want a global massacre or just observe the conflicting emotions? Why does everything end up being resolved because of her? The interpretation is logical, but it feels incomplete because of the way the story itself is written. It leaves too many unanswered questions. On top of that, it still sounds strange to me that the plan to stop everything ultimately revolves around toxic relationships.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHkSkLEWH44
>>288622689SnK turned to shit a long time ago
>>288622689Mikasa fucks Jean before 10 years run out. the end.
>>288632431Because it suddenly makes abusive relationships the lynchpin of the story, when nothing heavily hinted towards that. Eren never abused Mikasa except when he larped to push her away while he was about to do his genocide, and the shit about the farmer and Historia is basically a footnote given she's written out from that point on. It's also incoherent with the entire thing of Ymir releasing the pigs (she didn't want to feel free but just wanted his attention so he gouged her eyes out?) and she crying when Eren told her to be free (she just wanted to be enslaved to the King anyway?). It's an entire ball of nonsense and even Eren despite being half insane at that point goes>I have no idea why either
Remember when a giant worm crawled out of colossal eren's neck and started killing reiner, but then it never showed up again?
>>288628643>ywnbaw but for chudskek
>>288627542>genocide is bad>80% of the world gets genocided>Paradis gets genocided anywayWhy not just finish the job at that point? "It's ok, we ONLY killed 80% of the world!" is acceptable? "I'm going to bank on Armin negotiating peace with the good will that he stopped me at ONLY 80% completion"?
>>288635748>makes abusive relationships the lynchpin of the storyYeah, that does feel silly in a story all about war and genocide. I'm not saying I like it, just saying it's not some out of left field reveal that alone ruins the ending or Ymir's character. We never really understand Ymir or her actions with or without the reveal.>she crying when Eren told her to be freeShe wanted to be free from her love to him, I guess. Don't know about the pigs though, and I don't know why she as a goddess would obey him and his descendants for thousands of years and why she'd die trying to protect him if she didn't love him. I don't know why her titan powers didn't regenerate her tongue either, or they did and she just chose not to speak ever?
>>288632431You don't get to just scream "STOCKHOLM SYNDROME" and then everyone is supposed to nod along and go "ahh yes, of course, how deep, yes that does happen indeed, hmm"Her loving him is not a "twist", it's just retarded. King Fritz>enslaved her>destroyed her village/tribe>killed her parents>ripped her tongue out>sent her out to be hunted like a dog for sport>re-enslaved her once she gained powers>raped her >forcibly impregnated her 3 times>forced her to commit genocides against his enemies and subjugate the known world for him>fucked other women in front of her>fed her corpse to her daughters after she died to perpetuate his never ending dominion over the worldYou don't get to just handwave all that shit away and go "yeah stockholm syndrome after all hearts are complicated anyway moving on". This is the cornerstone of the entire manga. Every single thing that happened needed to happen the way it did because of this ONE singular point. A woman today staying with an abusive boyfriend is in no way, shape, or form comparable to this shit and you're absolutely ignorant of psychology if you think you can scream STOCKHOLM SYNDROME and wave it away like a magic wand.
>ruins your manga and your reputation forever
>>288632431>Stockholm Syndrome is a real thingStockholm syndrome is not real.
>>288638872I'm not a psychologist, are you? I have no idea how far women would go with their 'I can fix him' mindset. But if she was like any normal logical human being she would've killed him, so she's clearly not. I'm just repeating myself here but why else would she obey him, why would she die to protect him, why would she continue to do his and his descendants' bidding for thousands of years? Those things were revealed before it was revealed she loved him, put people only became outraged after it, so why did you think she did all those things?
Annie is the most perfect Shingeki, but who is the worst Shingeki? It's obviously Armin.
>>288639568>why did you think she did all those things?Well obviously because she loved him. I'm not arguing she didn't love him because that's what the manga said so it is objectively true.I'm arguing it's fucking retarded and unreasonable and makes absolutely no sense. Stockholm Syndrome is not "enslave me, rape me, torture me, kill my parents, kill my family, rip out my tongue, cheat on me, and feed my corpse to our daughters but I still love you daddy ;)".
>>288622689Honestly, I feel like it would've been better if Marley (and the world at large) were less genocidal towards Paradis, all this story tells you is to kill everyone or else you'll be the one who gets killed, but it's also bad to defend yourself
>>288640101It's a ridiculous "lesson" about pursuing peace at all costs. If everyone in the entire world wants nothing less than your complete and utter genocide, and they will never stop attacking until they get it, what are you supposed to do? Just play defense until they decide to stop? Pray they come for peace talks one day? Pray they don't develop a weapon akin to a nuke and drop it on your ass? If there's a button to genocide all of them to get them to stop, it would be remiss of you to not press it.>BUT IT'S WRONG!!!!!!!Why? Because there's more of them? Let's say there were only 10,000 people that wanted to genocide all of you. And you genocide them back, does that suddenly make it ok?
>>288640166The worst part is he didn't even do it to protect his homeland and friends, just because he was upset that humanity survived outside the walls, even if Marley and Paradis came to an understanding he'd still at least want to do it. His mom dying? His fault by the way.>me when I have to commit nigh omnicide because I'm boredAnd Isayama couldn't just leave it up to interpretation how future generations would handle it, in the manga he accidentally implies the remaining 20% blow up paradis in a generation, the anime at least try to make more time pass, and apparently it was supposed to imply it was something unrelated to the rumbling, perhaps some other war to show muh cycle of war but it was just ridiculous
It's too bad that some people were too obsessed with their shipping war to appreciate Isayama's genius.
>>288640468elaborate
>>288640329>it was supposed to imply it was something unrelated to the rumblingThat'd make it even more retarded.>Oh it's ok, the world just got over the whole genociding 4/5ths of us but we ended up in another war anyway damn what a shame war never changes
>>288632431>>288638872stockholm syndrome is a pop culture myth spawned by a swede who never even spoke to any of the people he claimed it affected. it's not real or even recognized by any healthcare organization on earth.
>>288630224Gee, I sure love how Eren planned to leave the island just to take the war hammer titan only for him to do fucking nothing worthwhile with it
>>288628643Eldia wasn't even an ethnostate. Look at how brown Gabi is
>>288640609The situation it was coined from was also incredibly unique too. It was a failed bank robbery resulting in a hostage situation where the police were being retarded and kept endangering the hostages to the point where they felt they were safer with their captive than the police.People have adopted this to now make a "universal truth" that captives/victims of abuse will invariably come to love their captors and this is a normal thing that anyone can succumb to.
>>288639884I'm just trying to understand how people explained her actions before they knew she loved him, because to me her sacrificing herself only made sense if she was in love with him , the reveal at the end only spelled it out.
>>288640663I think it's clear Isayama just made up the whole "9 titans" somewhere along the line and didn have that planned out.>What are the 9 titans, Hajime?>uhhhh cart and uhh female and uhh jaw and uhh yeahIt almost reminds me of Naruto with Kishi shoehorning the Jinchuriki into the manga. Just clearly thrown in and made up as he went along.
>>288640771He could have very easily done the whole "if I die or get harmed I'll kill your (our) children deal.
>>288622689no retconning of Eren x Historia (which the Jews did btw)/thread
>>288626250>>288630889This makes sense because America destroyed itself right after the revolutionary war because of the Loyalists and Patriots who disagreed with each other. What kind of retarded logic is this? What modern white ethnostate has its own people killing each other to the point of annihilation?
>>288640771she was a slave her entire life, fighting and protecting him and his tribe using her titan power. then when she got speared she straight up gave up on living and didn't regenerate. I don't think anyone in those threads at the time even remotely thought the reason was gonna be "uhhh actually she was in love with him all along".
>>288622689just make an open ending when the rumbling starts
>>288640493The ending (pre extra chapters) was kino but EHfags were blinded by their fanfic and aren't ready for that conversation
Armin dies instead of Erwin.
>>288641507Would have saved the manga instead of proving Isayama was a fucking hack who was too afraid to kill actually plot important characters
>>288641564>he's a hack because he didn't do what I wantedChildren aren't supposed to be posting here
>>288641592He didn't kill off characters and made stupid decisions for money (Mikasa). He reduced a manga with a good setup and a well-executed mystery to pointless garbage; it's the very definition of a hack.
>>288641507this is the moment the manga goes downhill
>>288641507>>288641564It would also give Eren a more personal reason to cause the Rumbling
>>288641437This is the best argument the shingekifags make instead of reading the manga and understanding that the ending was garbage and retroactively affected a large part of the work.
>>288622689>Eren succeeds >accidentally kills literally everyone because for some reason the titans don't stop stomping>he regrets it>kills himself>world ends
Mikasa: “Annie you don’t have to suffer anymore”Connie: “Annie fought enough”Armin: “Annie should just keep on being Annie”Mindblowing that this is canon dialogue.
>>288641859>kills armin's grandfather>kills her friend>kills innocents>kills Hange's pet Titans>kills soldiers>destroys infrastructure>hardens herself for years to not talk>she is forgiven, and her entire character arc revolves around a ship with Armin.That cake scene was so unnecesary
>>288641859Annie is perfect and deserves to be let off when it comes to her past.
>>288642314The entire point is that by the time she's unfrozen, everyone realizes that both sides were brainwashed child soldiers fighting for what they thought was salvation against monsters. How many times does Eren have to say that they're the same before you get it?
>>288643315But the Paradis side wasn't brainwashed, they were just not informed that the titans they were killing and being killed by were people of the same race that got turned into man eating monsters by the other side who's hate for them is generally boundless.
>>288622689>How would you fix the ending?Eren succeeds, but Eldians repeat the cycle of violence when they repopulate the world.
You now remember dadren fan art.Wish I had some to share, so take this gentle bump.
>>288645854Wow thanks for the bump kind stranger! I'm going to buy you 4chan gold!
>>288630279>>kill AnnieTHISIt makes me sick that that bitch basically got away with her murders
>>288644630This, every non-eldian race is wiped out but the Eldians just arbitrarily designate a subgroup of their own people to be the new niggers of the world.
>>288622689With changing as little as possible:Eren tells Armin they won fair and square. He truly wanted the rumbling but the clash with his friends was inevitable. Tells Armin he froze the rumbling but in a few minutes post contact with zeke the rumbling titans will go back to autopilot in every direction and kill everyone. To save the world, free Ymir and end the curse. Kill le worm. Whole team works together to kill worm kun then end it with hope and not showing Paradis getting obliterated.With changing more:At some point during the battle all shifters are touching big Eren and a shock occurs Do the Warhammer plot twistDo the Historia baby (obviously named ymir) twist. Either the baby is the new royal beast, Erens kid, Ymirs soul reincarnated in a new free life or any combination of the three.'Ymir you are free'Rumbling will start soon. Falco and Armin save as many as they can from the fort across the line before they march again.Rumbling completes then detitanize. The squad confront Eren after time skip. Eren is now the founder after freeing ymirs soul and taking her place. connecting the 9 titans was required for that.He tells them the fort people is all they could save with their efforts and is their reward for coming together too little too late. However the conflict will continue one day when Elida expands.Eren is ostracized from his friends. The curse is now tied to him so after making sure he is the only titan source left crystalises himself at the bottom of the ocean, forever in a dream connected to all through paths.Last scene he shows kid eren the world after, the wars between paradis factions and his friends dying of old age with grief in their hearts.He asks kid Eren if this is all worth it to him?Kid Eren sees the conflict and all the scenery and says 'yes.' Adult Eren smiles with a tear in his eye and says 'of course it is'Kid eren wakes up. It's episode 1.fin.
Honestly I think the rumbling was a bad plot device
>>288622689Reminder that Paradis was an island of exiled juice. When you actually consider that, it really had a proper ending.
Erehis sisters...
>>288649012...we lost and got farmed...
Ten years at least lol
>>288643315he could repeat it million times if he wanted. if I laid my eyes on the way that bitch was killing my comrades, I would gut her first and ask questions next.
>>288651031No, you're a spineless piece of shit who pretends to be tough and principled online because you have nothing else
>>288622689make a Jean x Mikasa and Farmer x Historia double wedding OVA
>>288649012>>288649031EH would've won if Isayama wasn't a mentally ill effeminate cuck who kowtows to da Joos.
>>288640985People have greater common threats in this world to unite them though.
>>288622689-Make Eren actually know what he was doing by removing Ymir's curse by having Mikasa kill him, she hugs him no kiss-Remove the incest shit with him and Mikasa, he impregnates Historia instead to prevent her from receiving a titan-Make the avenger faction actually understand why they oppose Eren, something like "We can't have a peaceful future if we let ourselves become mass murderers"Then keep the ending where they inevitably go to war after a while because of the nature of man. These are the simplest changes you can make because they're focused around giving a REASON for the characters doing what they do instead of muh feelings
>>288643315Well Reiner shows remorse and guilt and still gets punched in the face. Annie dgaf and just gets forgiven by everyone
>>288622689I wouldn't. Not worth the effort of even thinkong of an emding I'd like better.
>>288646154Kill yourself
>>288654691That's what bothered me the most about that whole deal, Reiner actually shows and feels remorse for what he's done ESPECIALLY in front of the people he hurt the most, yet he gets punched and kicked down repeatedly.Annie meanwhile kept up the "I don't give a shit" attitude in front of everyone pretty much the entire time and she gets basically a slap on the wrist for everything she's done.
>>288654691>>288656107Suffering porn doesn't work with the one who doesn't regret anything. The one who regrets and apologizes is the one who has to suffer the most because reasons.
>>288622689>Armin should have died then>No avenger shit>no sacred union to show it's impossible to forgive past deeds, Annie coming back just like this made no sense narratively nor thematically>humanity should struggle internally, even faced by the threat of total annihilation>NO TIME TRAVEL SHITEren killing his own mother was total character assassination and story never recovered, and it was also completely unnecessary, I don't know what Isayama was smoking
>>288656107I think Jean's anger was more towards the fact that Reiner kept wallowing in self pity when Jean already forgave him, he ket going "Oh I'm such a horrible person, I don't deserve your forgiveness" But it's funny how Annie suffered zero consequences and even had some romance subplot with Armin where she's all blushy, and we just forget how she was sadistically throwing Levi's squad around like yo-yos, but Reiner said he told her to kill Marco so it's okay
>>288656554Have you ever played the 2nd Attack on Titan video game? It has an OC plotpoint where Zeke, Bert and Reiner besiege the Utopia District and escape with Annie's crystal.
>>288656554>>288657529I forgot to mention that these "alternate endings" were written by Isayama himself. It's sort of like what would have happened in the manga if Reiner beat Zeke in Shiganshina.
>>288652231People have the capacity to be violent and wage war. That doesn't mean it will always end that way. There's no incentive for Paradis to destroy itself when the rest of the world is already dead
>>288622689>Have prominent marley character who don't want a race war.>Show that these people who geniuely wanted to coexist had a plan>Destroy Eren with facts and logic instead of bullshit plot Didn't save your dogshist, but it's more salvageable now atleast.
>>288622689Total Marley Death
>>288658399What about Yelena?
>>288641228Especially since Eren went through the entire ordeal of telling her "she is free" and that she doesn't have to do this anymore. Everyone just assumed it was "oh she just had the slave mentality so engraved in her that she mentally couldn't free herself, even thousands of years after Fritz was already dead", but it turned out to be "nah she was in a deep, romantic, undying, unconditional love with him the entire time" out of fucking nowhere.
>>288622689restore the original ending
>>288660454Isayama should stealth release the real ending under the pretense of releasing a nobody's doujin
>>288622689Marley develops semi-auto anti tank rifles. That enables Gabi to off eren, the tapeworm and zeke before the rumbling can start.With the tapeworm dead all titan powers are gone, and all the eldians get killed in a world wide chimpout.
Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that EREHISU was the greatest Nazi fiction since The Turner Diaries?
>>288622689Have Eren offer to suck Armin's cock and eat his shit instead of crying over Mikasa's sex life
>>288622689fix?it gave me the biggest laughs I've had in like the past decadepeak comedy
>>288626250As we now know this would have been too smart and mature for a hack like Isayama to write
>>288661791I don't follow your meaning>>288626250I like most of what you said, but the everything past "he asks if it was worth it" is narratively weak and boring.
>>288622689more JMkino
>>288662130I liked the idea of Jean and Pieck, the horse and the cart.
eren killa them all and sex with mikasa
>>288622689Eren kills everyone on the mainland and the cringevengers fail to stop him. No bullshit about Ymir seething, no mong shit, just genocide.
>>288628643And neither will you schlomo
if it has to be a "world is saved, eren is defeated" ending, then some key things needed to happen:Magath should've lived and had a leading role in normalizing relations between Eldians and the world.Cut that abominable shit with Ymir at the end that stole all of Eren's agency.I'd rather Eren not wuss out on genocide, but be defeated outright because he refuses to exercise the Founder's power to steal his friends' freedom.Make Eren the father of Historia's child OR don't give her a kid at all; sending her off to the farm was a miserable waste of her entire arc.Cut the epilogue.The feeling I got once it was all over was that Isayama really did hate his entire audience. It seemed tailored to tarnish every possible perspective readers might have, especially when the epilogue released and murdered any last hope of change. It's clear from the first 120 chapters that he's not an abysmal writer, just a bit unfocused, but after the rumbling started he produced almost nothing of value.
>>288630279You said kill Armin three times
>>288662130I would have been find with this if Jean killed Reiner and Annie after they stopped Eren. That horse faced retard just forgave them for Marco, in fact how do any of the scouts put up with that? Fucking Conny goes full schizo forgetting that his father and siblings were killed and his mom is a Titan.
>>288639568Yes you do have cases where women go through the most horrific experiences imaginable and still despise their captors. You must live under a rock because no one should be this ignorant
>>288638872>King Fritz>>enslaved her>>destroyed her village/tribe>>killed her parents>>ripped her tongue out>>sent her out to be hunted like a dog for sport>>re-enslaved her once she gained powers>>raped her >>forcibly impregnated her 3 times>>forced her to commit genocides against his enemies and subjugate the known world for him>>fucked other women in front of her>>fed her corpse to her daughters after she died to perpetuate his never ending dominion over the worldAnd she fell deeply in love with him.Is Ymir the most accurate portrayal of a women ever put to pen?
>>288662514body, mind and spirit
>>288643315I didn’t know Eren enjoyed killing innocent people
>>288662599last 10 chapters or so basically feel like a different person wrote them, I have given up on trying to make sense of them
>>288662696Well yeah, he wanted to see that trampled landscape
>>288642314>she is forgivenRightfully so.
>>288622689>delete the whole Marley arc>delete Zeke euthanasia plan, future Eren and the worm >Keep the king´s conspiracy and the Ackerman super soldiers though to still force a confrontation between Eren and Mikasa because feelings, also Eren now is of royal blood because who doesn´t like the a hero with justification to take the throne>Somewhat force Eren to be ditched among a society of titans outside the walls, he learns they were discarded warriors, becomes the leader and then leads them to rejoin the kingdom or somethingYes, it´s still shit but not as shit as Isayama´s idea.
>>288622689>Eren sends several titans to each country as tactical nukes or else he’ll start the rumbling again>No genocide is needed >Eren gives Historia a baby just like the original ending How hard was it to do this instead of the worst ending ever written?
>>288652021>it was the jewsthe final state of EHfags
What's wrong with the ending? Everything was cool except Gabby, just cut her out or redub her lines, maybe foreshadow the winged jaw titan a bit more, but it was already decently foreshadowed. Honestly with the crap we have out here, the ending was good and wrapped up nice, I like it.
>>288663434Gabi is superb.
>>288662953I’m referring to preschizo Eren
>>288663434EHfags were mad that their fanfic didn't happen.
>>288646168you could then even do the ending with one of these nigeldians being the one heading towards the tree
>>288664368>still coping that's the only reasonkwab