What have people been reading and do you ever get tired of beach episodes?
I read the cross-dressing office worker romcom today and it was really good.
My dream is to one day be one of those scumbag mobs that hit on some unsuspecting heroine only to get punched in the face or something by the MC.
>>288624703next time I will remember to attach picture
>>288624838Cute
>>288624681Hoshigasaki better win
>>288624703fag
>>288625057I was tempted to dump a couple chapters today since they're fairly short, the art is nice and the story is weird but wholesome.Salesman works at an office and does his job well. On the weekends he does cute lolita crossdressing. Super outgoing, very popular since he's good at sales and being personable. Popular guy.OL who works in the same office is kinda stern with him because she resents him for being popular and well-liked mainly due to his personality and people skills and makes a few too many work mistakes that she gives him a hard time about. She isn't unfair, just a bit strict. She dresses up in her favourite punk fashion in her time off.They meet one weekend not recognizing each other and hit it off. It's not super trope, it's done really maturely and it's cute to see them grow closer together.
>>288625154It's not gay if you're cute.
D-Frag counts as Rom Com right? An unusually uncomfy chapter this time
>>288624681>do you ever get tired of beach episodes?It's not a good romcom if there's no beach episode
Should the sick and nursed back to health episode come before or after the beach episode?
>>288624681Anyone read vol 4 of the ln?
>>288625244If you have to say it's not gay, then it's gay, faggot.
>>288625358Not yet but I'm importing a copy. Volume 5 has just been announced too.
>>288625416I will defer to your expertise in the area of gay matters since you're so familiar with homosexual lust of cocks.
and here's some gyaru otaku slop
>>288624681An assortment of works that don't get much traction, but I still enjoy them.
>>288625979Now that the vtuber fad has kinda died, 8 is kinda lame to follow but I really like the characters and their dynamics.9 isn't too far along but it seems decent enough for the whole quasi-girlfailure x student dynamic. can easily see it go super slop though.is 6 the ice princess one? too many silver haired romcoms lately to know without being able to read moonrunes
guess the specific romcom threads have taken up all the posters
>>288624681I only read romcoms if the main "heroine" and love interest of the male MC is a trap.
>>288624681>What have people been readingPicked this one up recently >>288626692Still not sure whether is meant to be a romcom or drama
>>288625450I thought the light novels were digital exclusive?
Will we ever have another series that feels like THE romcom?Nothing has really ever come close to Oregairu and Haganai
>>288628474>Haganai sneak
>>288628719The manga is where it's at brother. People will always think about the novel's clusterfuck of an ending but the manga was based enough to do its own thing ant it's one of the best romcom mangas of all times
>>288628474the com disappeared past season 1
>>288628433I think I'm a retard who bought the manga of Vol 4.
>>288624681>>288625102>>288625358>>288625450Author had a lot of time to revise his original ending, it's 2026 and first girl is no longer mandatory to win, if Hoshigasaki doesn't win I will go nuclear and make sure this is the last thing he ever writes.
>>288630020Shiramine has entered the race
What's the source one OP's pic? For me I've been reading that series with the MC being a housekeeper for the main heroine.
>mangaka celebrated his manga hasnt been axed (yet)
>>288624681Does Hima-ten count as a Romcom?
>>288630135Good lord this series was about to get axed?
>hentai mangaka finally made a non-h serialization>it went for 33 chapters before it ended>no sex even by the end>mangaka went back making hentai again
>>288630140Yes
>>288630131Hima-ten?
>>288630229Not that one, the other one.
>>288630140Honoka >> Himari
>>288625979So glad to see Urabe-san got picked up again. Her faces are priceless.
I wouldn't call Angel Next Door a com but it is a nice romfluff. It's comfy so I've been reading that the last few days.
>>288630186I am hoping the Kanroame manga goes lewd.
>>288624681I'd like more Romcoms that are more coms than roms. Something like the first season of Oregairu (2nd and 3rd lean more towards drama while romance is barely palpable) or Haganai. It can even be somewhat silly like Urusei Yatsura.
>>288626046I miss "Dad is the Queen of Vtuber". Love big Vtuber girl. Both leads are goober whom you want to see successed.>is 6 the ice princess one?Wolf-chan. It got into confession territory last chapter. And even though the author was planning on ending it he decided to add another volume afterward. Based of him to do so.>>288630135It's always fun to see them get happy about it.>>288630379Yep. She's a cutie patootie.
>>288630417You want comroms not romcoms
>>288630449Comantic romedies?
>>288630131Bocchikano
Don't really like how things got within the last 15 or so chapters but I still enjoy Dungeon no Osananajimi
This one's pretty cute. The melancholic feeling of dealing with a widow is a nice touch too, i haven't read many manga with a heroine like that, so it's a nice change of pace for me
Romcoms are lame, give me drama give me tragedy
I was so hyped so I bought raws, but looks like this is bait and switch. Instead of comedy about 2 virgins where maleMC is a smut writers it turns into cgdct
>>288625159It took like sixth place in anime adaptation poll. Hovewer not sure how to do it, the manga is too slow
>>288624681Is the OP even a romcom? I started reading it today and it feels more like a friendship drama with some sprinkles of comedy than a romantic comedy
>>288631034Fuck off, you annoying chaosfag.
>>288630949I like this one, but with so many flashbacks it feels like the author is trying to get away with having shitty highschool setting while trying to maintain his "Serious Emotional Stakes" adults trying to rebuild their lives.
>>288631195This would be a really fucking bad anime. The majority of the appeal is the high quality art and while I like their story, it's a nothing-burger because it's 2 people acting normal in a normal setting who just happen to wear weird clothes. The romance party is barely just getting started now in the manga.
>>288630083
Otonari-san no Gyaru ga Boku wo Hore Sasetakute Zenryoku SugiruFinally someone picked up it but looks like mangaka gave up and now draws the gyaru as a blob most of the time
wakaba-san chi no aoi koi is one of my favourite running seriesart is great and the wingwoman dynamic between the sisters moves things along at a nice pace
Has there ever been a romcom with realistic real life like dynamics? It's either a bunch of characters, usually girls compete for the MC ending when someone is chosen or set pairings from the start.Where are the breakups, moving ons, finding new love maybe even staying friends with exes after some time, it'd even out the playing field for the "losers" and the MC getting in a relationship wouldn't mean the end of the series so you could actually have plot developments instead of moving at a glacial pace.
Apparently Komi is getting a new chapter June 17th
>>288631788they exist, but since you just want to see your own life story reflected in a romcom you're gonna dismiss everythng that isn't your experience as "unrealistic boring wish fulfillment"
>>288631788>Has there ever been a romcom with realistic real life like dynamics?Why the fuck do you want realism in your escapist gook fantasy? Just scroll social media for an hour.
>>288631788>Where is the drama in comediesYou're looking in the wrong genre
Only 5 days left.
>>288631929Can't wait. I fucking love posting about this series so much. Really hoping we get Hikari's POV from Yami reaching out.
>>288631958Surely it has to be a continuation of the last chapter, so Yami's POV.
>>288631914but I actually like the romcom tropes, I just want something fresher from time to time and that when the girl I pick inevitably loses she'd still have a chance to find happiness.
>>288631996I'll keep my Imasara posting for the chapter thread, but it feels like there's 2 main camps who like this manga: YamiYuu romance and the Triangle drama.As a triangle enjoyer, I feel like the Yami part of this arc has concluded and it's time we get to see what Hikari has been going through all this time.
>>288632038It's weird for the Yami part to be finished because it's been just one chapter and there's clearly a scene and a conversation we're yet to see. If it's concluded in the next chapter then yes, it's Hikari POV time, but it'd be weird to leave the Yuu + Yami line hanging as of now. I don't think it's conclusive/cathartic enough like 21 was.
>>288625979>wolf chanI remember I dropped because of strange autism of the male interest, turned out he already had dating experience and was hinting something like "let's stay friends"
>ntr baitGeez
I need someone to suggest me good anime where I can find cute tsundere girls
>>288631788Naze Toudouin Seiya 16-sai wa Kanojo ga Dekinai no ka?Special for you, a high school boy can't find a girlfriend, despite being tall, athletic, and from a rich family. Full of close-to-home scenes of women's moments and autism that negatively affect his life. And it's still a comedy,after
This cute oyakodon manga ended so fast...
>>288632545Sauce?
>>288632637https://ravenscans.org/manga/tadaima-taikichuu-nitsuki/
Some works I enjoy a lot where the leads have good chemistry. From left to right:Sugiyuki Kako to Mitai AsuNaze da NaitouYamero Suki ni Natteshimau
>>288629414That's kind of the point, the best romcoms are those that evolve beyond being a simple romcom and turn into character dramas, focusing on each character's journey and development on the backdrop of the romantic situation
>>288632831sex demon on the right
I love these perverts
>>288631788Anon, basically the whole point of anime and manga is escaping from your shitty real life. It's not high art meant to make you reflect on the real world or some shit, neither is it a medium for normalfags to watch on the couch so they can gaze into the lives of others(fictional) and recognise their normal world. Only the most butthurt old creators and most hispster contrarian new ones create anime and manga(3DPD) or rail against it being what everyone knows and wants it to be; fantastic escapism.Anyway, How Do We Relationship or whatever it's called is like that and of course it's yurishit and also written by a woman (less likely to need escapism, more in love with melodrama).
>hahaha, if I point out that I write retarded bullshit then you can't call me out on it, hahahaaaI'm tired of the self-aware romcom, either write tropey bullshit or be serious, don't try to get away with your cutesy crap and think you're above it.
There should be more heroines with braided hair
>>288633136ok, PICKED UPI might been a lesbian in a previous life because I'm really hooked on to yuri.Esecially if it has cute girls.
Few times i haVe felt the urges to punch a fictiona character like in this chapter.
>>288633136Sounds like an intricate shilling attempt
>>288633339agreed, he wrote himself into a corner.They should've started dating."I want to focus on my non-existen writer career" is not a good enough excuse to pospone their relationship.
I know about girl wearing boy's hoodiebut boy wearing girl's turtleneck isn't it way too lewd?
this one's really cute! time loop shenanigans and cute artstyle
>>288634627>time loopnever before has a more awful romcom trope existed
>>288632589Is it really oyakodon? Wasn't MC only interested in the mother?
>>288630949>>288631419Im surprised that there are no incels getting triggered and shouting used goods to this.
>>288624681Would Sora do it or is she still playing hard to get?
Fact: every single loser MC story is garbage
>>288635225It's a performative outrage
>>288635225The writing is too mature for people who'd spout that to keep reading it. There's potential for good here, but everything in it presented so far to me just says "wants to be good, but doesn't have the talent necessary to make it to that level"
>>288630020>>288625102>winShe has to be in the race first. I don't think she likes him as of now.
>>288630949>Loser x gyaruInsane. How do japanese people keep coming up with these innovative, avant-garde ideas?
>>288635390because its cute
>>288631614>>288632831Picked up. I wish to HHNNGGHH,
>>288635477You're a mindless coonsuemer.All of the slop is churned out with zero passion and just cynical market research.
>>288630083Seriously? Shocked, she always seemed to be annoyed that Nanamura(?) is such a pain in the ass sometimes.
>>288635561you sound pretentious as fuck, you probably think you're super smart
>>288635390Anon, there are only a few types of couple dynamics, this one is just persistent girl x shy boy, swapping gyaru on an office lady wouldn't change anything
>>288635740>persistent girlyou can just say you haven't read it instead of assuming based off 1 page
>>288633187Braids with glasses. And I don't know why but yukatas and modern girls dressed in them for festivals never look that good to me. I love mikos, and all other kinds of 'traditional' Japanese dress on girls both realistc and romanticised/fantasy'd - I love me some oni girls and youkai and inaka girls wearing ye olde dress - but festival yukata really doesn't do it for me and neither does their hair 9 times out of 10.
>>288635815Fuck off faggot. This shit was on the top page of mangadex, and probably has like 30k+ bookmarks. It's not a super secret manga avaiable in your elite cocksuker club
>>288633874>"I want to focus on my..."Very, very few occasions that I read a character saying that but do not drop the manga then and there. Anyway I read the first chapter of that manga when it was scanlated and never read any more, I didn't like (and dropped) R18 or R15 or whatever it was too.
>>288635899so why didn't you read it before making assumptions based off a single page?
>>288635664>Same dynamic >Same archetypes>Same style of romantic development >Same thing where the gimmick will become more irrelevant and more as it goes onI don't think I'm more clever than any of you to see the pattern, because I know you do it as you. You are just in denial of it.Hell, there are many popular authors who staight up admit it.
>>288631343It gets there. It's kinda clumsy but when the MC gets over himself it's smooth.
>>288635987>widow gyaru found her classmate>play with him by leaving her wedding ring>SHE'S NOT PERSISTER ONE PAGE!Stop being a petty faggot
>>288624681what I'm following right now.Shiunji-ke no KodomotachiImasara desuga, Osananajimi o Suki ni NatteshimaimashitaIssho ni Kurashite ii desu ka?Uzaki-chan wa Asobitai!Chie Aru KoibitoArakure Ojousama wa Monmon ShiteiruJinsei Gyakuten - Uwaki Sare Enzai wo Kiserareta Ore ga, Gakuen Ichi no Bishoujo ni NatsukareruKusunoki-san wa Koukou Debut ni Shippai Shite IruDanjo-hi 1:5 no Sekai demo Futsuu ni Ikirareru to Omotta? ~Gekiomoi Kanjou na Kanojo-tachi ga Mujikaku Danshi ni Honrou Saretara~
>>288636106Oh, you're retarded and don't know the meaning of the word persistent. My bad, I gave you more credit than you deserved.
>>288636180>>2886361062 retards fighting about nothing
>>288636180>>288636552So you will not stop, okay
Just started reading bokuben and torture princess' authors new manga. Not sure if it's gonna be romance or action.
>>288624681I just finished my 5th re-read of Touch. Adachi is a master of romcom. I'm gonna re-read his other series and maybe catch up with Mix (been years since I read it).
>>288631797Neat, some side story chapters would be nice
>>288627070>MC ask her out on ch1Picked up
>>288637510sure fire sign this miseryporn in disguise
>finally stabilize your relationship after forming a throuple>outside force threatens to expose it to everyone>utterly wrecks it from the inside due to pure selfishness, greed, and slothIt almost seems calculated on her part to break up the main couple so she can steal him away for herself.
>>288637524She's too cute for there to be too much suffering
>>288637753People first time vvatching Made in Abyss also thovght this.>They're only kids, one vvouldn't pvt them throvgh so mvch svffering, right? It looks like yovr typical adventvre kodomo anime.
>>288637753Camisoles...
>like ongoing romcom>support it by buying the volumes>it falls off a couple of volumes laterI should've learned by now not to buy ongoing series, but sometimes I still go "I have a good feeling about this one."
>>288637977What manner of mental illness is this?
>>288637977what happened to your w an u keys?
>>288637524I don't think she's innocent enough to be good fuel for miseryporn
>>288625289How is D-Frag still ongoing?
>>288636174>Issho ni Kurashite ii desu ka?I feel it jumped the shark the last few chapters
>>288635256I think she's still in denial but Volume 3 kinda has her semi admitting in>>288635377She definitely has a crush and definitely knows it
>>288624703>>288624838>>288625159>>288625244i read this one too. i like how it skips the usual romcom bullshit and characters are open to what they think or feel with each other. i haven't read a chapter in a while as i caught up at the time. i was at the point where the punk girl was starting to feel insecure about how she dressed.
>>288638255Skip beat is half a decade older and still ongoing without being episodic
>>288638447Helps that the author is married and his wife gives input. They don't have to do the regular teenage handolding bullshit and skip straight to grownups being mature. He clearly has his baggage to work through (obviously given what his hobby is and the small flash backs we've gotten) and she has her own small issues, but they're much more trivial than his and will be easily overcome.
>>288638447You should catch up, there's been a lot since then. Lolita assures her that she shouldn't hold back for his sake since he can always fix/get new clothes and doesn't want her to hold back for that reason.
>new Haimiya>still daycareAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>288640725Isn't the editor supposed to tell the author that the arc he is writing fucking sucks?
>>288640806if we show cute kids to the readers, that means they'll make more kids to buy manga!
>>288635584You should read Volume 3, great volume
>>288631914You don't have to make a breakup sad or dramatic. They could simply not vibe like they thought they did. Same thing with moving on or the transition period between ex to friend
>>288635225People never target series with unambiguously experienced heroines for that, it's always directed at series with pure heroines they find unbelievable
Word of warning: shoujo romance is a dangerous place
I need new chapters of this manga and Kessa mo YuraretemasuPLEASE>>288634033>quickly notices his friend suddenly wearing a turtleneck and its meaning. "ohh nice, he had a great summer eh?">can't realize who actually left him marked, despite seeing the gal getting close to him. "hmm, seems he's getting dragged away by a delinquent"This kid manages to be both intelligent and dense in terms of romance, what a feat
>>288642327>as long as you're attractive and have big hands, you can get away with these kind of statements Man i love Japan
>>288642540As a romance, it sucks.
>>288631788Try "Peach girl", that shit is nuts
>>288631788It's not really a manga problem. Realistic romances just aren't usually compelling stories. When you hear about real romance stories that're good, they're often undercut with descriptions like "it was something out of a fairy tale" or "it was just like a TV drama" because they're exceptional to begin with. If it's not anime wish fulfillment, it's a messy latin telenovela, or some extremely irresponsible American romcom, or like a kdrama that would be absolutely toxic under any lens of examination.A lot of people have a pretty skewered idea of what a realistic romance entails in the first place anyways. People don't realize how much our reality is informed by fiction these days and their realism is based off the media they're consuming rather than an actual lived reality. Like, just as much as otaku with unrealistic expectations of women exist, there're also a lot of people who think a real romance is supposed to be a super messy thing where relationship status is liquid and a lot of people are meant to be involved, but both of these ideas basically never actually work out in reality when you're living in it and pay any attention to studies at all.
>>288625244Do the Japanese really have fashion 'scenes' where the aesthetic is to look like that Darks Ecstasy character that a turbocringe middleschooler drew for a devientArt profile pic in like 2007 but with extra shitty fake tribal tatoos and chains hanging off of you?Honestly, apart from fursuits and bronies, I don't think the west has/had any 'scene' this cringeworthy and chuuni and just edgy poser looking. I can't even explain what I mean properly, it's just all so pointless and gay. You really have to be mentally ill to do this, it's a cry for help or attention or to express something in you that you can't actually comprehend so you just do random gayass shit like that pic. Absolutely nothing about it serves a practical or logical or reasonable purpose it's just pure imageworship and insecurity with yourself. You change into something outrageous because, and it's completely poser because it is nothing. It's done just because, just because you want to look _ .
>>288632848So...kanokari?
>>288643410Elon, come get your boy. Grok has escaped Twitter.
>>288643410How do people make posts like this without the self-awareness to realize that everyone reading them thinks "what an insecure bitch".
Gyaru is a total cutie, I wish them happiness. Oh, uh, first girl is cute too I guess.
>>288643740>being shocked by completely ridiculous, nearly incomprehensible shit means you're insecure. I can't follow your train of thought, it's too retarded. Insecurity has absolutely nothing to do with me having a deep seated aversion to nonsense. Next time you want to insult someone don't just pick a random word from the dictionary. The guy I understand. He's just low T and probably a tranny. I understand he doesn't want to be a man. What I don't understand is hanging a chain between your ear and your lips, purposefully ripping your clothes, not even having real tattoos but having fake ones etc. What is that even trying to say?
>>288631343>>288643935Nanamura pisses me off most times. The self deprecation pierces my heart and hurts me
>>288644007imagine posting this unironically. oh to be in high school
>>288643935Sora will win and and won on the WN
>>288644307Stop lyin
>>288640806it sells like 80k a month pretty sure the author is doing fine
>>288644397recently celebrated crossing 100k sales a monththe daycare arc is mega ass though and even Haimiya's design is struggling to keep this shit afloat, even if she's finally starting to show signs of liking MC
>>288644319I know it sucks anon but it is what it is. You can read the WN and see for yourself.
>>288642327You need a little of the bitter to get the sweet.
>>288644307>>288644457Source?
>>288644486He made it up. There is no WN version.
>>288643935Him telling Hoshigasaki he's an OtakuxGal enjoyer was my favorite part of the story so far.
>>288635097He is, but that doesn't stop her.
>>288630186tbf he's the best at drawing inverted torpedo nipple tits and the world shouldn't be denied that
Are big boobg really cool?
>>288643935>Shitty Oregairu clone with a lame MCWhat's the appeal?
>>288642540this one needs to wrap up quicker, idk how the mangaka can keep stalling after everything that happened
What's the name of that one manga where the female MC is a hopeless pervert who gets confessed to by a 9/10 Nice Guy and wants to have sex right away. I remember her trying to fuck his CF too, pinning them down and kissing them deeply.
>>288647492MC is just a loser instead of pretentious loser like 8man, also it's not filled with bitches like in Oregairu.
>>288649088The MC is also a moronic self destructive asshole but he knows when he's wrong and it doesn't take 5+ people yelling at him for months to admit it.
>>288648868I know what you're talking about but I can't remember the name. It has the same author as >>288632589
>>288649088>The appeal is that he is a bigger piece of shit
>>288649990Never knew that a simple loser is more offensive than a pretentious loser.
>>288628474>THE romcom>Oregairu
>>288649990No, he's less of piece of shit after the school trip arc. He's not as funny or cynical as 8man, or a closeted homosexual.
>>288650020He isn't wrong. It was one of the most discussed romcoms of the last decade, with some actual discussions instead of constant shitflinging like toubun.
>>288635287>>288641919Check out /isekai/ and you'll quickly see this is very much not the case. The breed of virulent incel in that general is substantially different than the anons you find in romcom council threads.
>>288650066You have to be retarded to take any of those shitposts seriously
>>288650063>with some actual discussions instead of constant shitflinging like toubun.YPF and the constant discord raids were some of the worst times.
>>288650014Yes? Being a loser isn't a good thing. A more authentic loser is worse than a fake one.Social outcast with friends pulling the hotest chick in his school is slop.
>>288650074They were, but also there were actual discussions alongside them, not just>Nino best Miku worst>no, Yotsuba best Nino worst>drugs>pitybait
>>288650099>Social outcast with friends pulling the hotest chick in his school is slop.So 8man? The guy in the other romcom, Nanamura, isn't pulling shit. 8man has Yui, one of the hotter girls, into him from the start.
>>288650133Correct, it's shit enough that it doesn't need a shitter clone.
degyarufied Akutsu-san
>>288650149Fair enough. Your opinion is reasonable. It feels more like a Tomozaki clone sometimes, which is also kind of shit.
>>288630767the best part of the manga are these four idiots by far
>>288631614eldest sister is so easily the worst, which really sticks out when all the other sisters and their dynamics are so good>>288636050>>288644106nanamura is like if 8man was legitimately a huge loser and not in a goslingcore way. it's so fucking funny
>>288650071You're painfully naïve if you don't realize how many of those motherfuckers are dead serious. It's quite literally the same mentality with which a lot of Japanese readers seaking escapist fiction view isekai.
I wish Chitose Is in the Ramune Bottle was actually good. Or someone ripped it off and made it less obnoxious.>>288650265The purityfags are real, but everything else - timeline, mental etc, it's all shitposts. There is also anons exclusively likes used goods there.
>>288650226I like Nanamura since he doesn't even have any trauma to make him that way, he's just a poorly socialized dick. No one bullied him before the start of the story. He was just passive and expected nice things to fall into his lap for his entire school life. When he tries to join school clubs he thinks everyone in those clubs are faggots not worth associating with, meaning he's the reason nothing meaningful ever happened to him.
>>288650292>I wish Chitose Is in the Ramune Bottle was actually good.The author portraying his detractors as wojaks and his self insert as the chad was funny if it was done ironically.
>>288650292 (me)The closest thing to it was Haibara's Teenage New Game+ but it still has a former loser MC. Even worse, the rest of the cast minus the CF, esspecially the main heorine, are boring as sin.I wish the author focused on his witch story instead.
>>288650294Just like looking on a mirror
>>288650292>The purityfags are real, but everything else - timeline, mental etc, it's all shitposts.Obviously. But the purityfags are an infestation and the shitposts are unsubtle and generally pretty funny.
purityfaggotry is an extreme. I don't think just because a women isn't a virgin she shouldn't be a heorine, but women who haven't gotten over their ex or women who had casual one nights should never be the main heorine.
I genuinely prefer Bocchikano to Oregairu. Less drama, lower stakes, the characters aren't fucking obnoxious and it doesn't take 2 volumes for character development and progress to happen.
>>288646466Yes big boobs are cool
>>288650303Cf is also shit, orange cutie deserved to win.
>>288650956Explain Bocchikano in oregairu terms
>>288650974What if 8man was Zaimokuza who's less chuuni and even more of a huge loser.And instead of getting injured saving a dog, he just fuckin dies saving a classmate he barely knows in graduation.And said classmate is a shrine maiden who prayed every day for a chance of them knowing each other.That's the entire premise.
I like romcom with adult casts and with unconventional workplace setting.
>>288651163It's jarring when they're adults and still behave like teenagers.
>>288651030>And said classmate is a shrine maiden who prayed every day for a chance of them knowing each other.And said shrine maiden won according to these anons >>288630020 & >>288644307 ?
The solution is unironically to end it harem.
>>288651655There was never a Web Novel so ignore the second one
>>288651030Describe the girls in Oregairu terms
>>288652106So who won in the "original ending" as per >>288630020 ?
>>288652225There was no ending. The LN was cancelled, the author went to college(dude was young), and then it came back since the manga did well and wasn't axed when the LN was. There is no WN.
>>288652225There's no real original ending, it was literally cancelled on volume 2 (which is the Gyaru's character arc) when the author went to college and only started getting new volumes because the publisher is surprised people are still reading the manga. I suppose anon's thinking romcoms nowadays aren't super bound to "first girl wins" trope as much as Heisei era romcoms
>>288652238>>288652250Who deserves to win then anons? Shrine maiden girl, gyaru, or someone else?
>>288633339>>288633874I dont think the context was postponing a relationship but more the MC trying to force a bridge through their mutual /lit/autism to not have her give up her passions over some dumb woman mentality “career or wife, i cant have both” shit.
>>288651986Or routes.But monofags are pretty zero sum retard who don't just want have to their girl win, but also see the other lose.
>>288652321>deservesThe MC is a putz, I don't wish him on anyone.
>>288651200You mean like irl?
>>288652123Sora (the Shrine Maiden and first girl) has no equivalent in Oregairu. I guess Yukino in being the prettiest in the school and having good grades but aside from that, they're pretty much nothing alike.Ruri (the gyaru) is pretty much Yui alongside her being an airhead, though she's a lot more introverted. She's also a mega otaku.Mashiro (Class Prez) is kinda like Shiromeguri but she's a lot more proactive and is kind of a busybody goody two shoes. Though Nanamura pisses her off because he's an inconsiderate bastard and often does self destructive bullshit.>>288652321I don't think she'll win but I'd like it if Mashiro won. She's got good chemistry with Nanamura.
Heh 7mura, 8man.
>>288652389Warmwater
>>288652333In recent years we've seen harem endings and route endings. >Megami no Café Terrace>Bokuben>AmagamiThey all sucked.
>>288652428Bokuben was genuinely the best out of those and Goddess Terrace is NOT a harem ending
>>288652372Who's most likely to win as of now? Sora?
>>288652506Not really sure, as of Volume 3 it's kinda equal. But Volume 4 is Sora's volume and she's wearing Shrine maiden clothes there.
>>288652463>the winner says that she's okay to shareYeah, sure.
>>288652428Amagami is better than most of the dogshit I recognise being posted here.
>>288652542>WinnerMonoshit
>>288652428As opposed to mono end "harem" but also sucks?
>>288630140no No NO NOOOOOO
If a shoujo have comedic element, would that count as romcom?
>>288653241Yes obviously romcoms aren't divided by demographics
>>288653228Oh no, she's pregnant!
>>288651163There's no rom yet and I keep waiting.
Pitch your romcom ideas>Gal aren't kind to Otaku and Otaku too aren't kind to Gal because both of them are very tsundere with each other. also they're both neighbors and CF
>>288652542It's a troll ending. She didn't win because he liked her the most but because some needed to win. Her being ok sharing was just bait.
>>288653276with a failed kpop idol's child due to her frequent business trips
>>288630140Greatest love story ever told.
>>288653326Mono adult romance without comedy. He's a goofball called Tomu Hanokusawa and she's a cute girl called Megu Yamaraian. He's gifted by a deus ex machina with the girl's email address and steals her business.
Recently reread Tsurezure Children, god I love these two
>>288653326>two teachers that are well known for strict and moral guiding to their students but they're both secretly dating with each other and does inappropriate things in school >how I met your mother premise of the father retelling to his kids about how he meet their mother in school/college but the dad altered the names of the girls he meet during his retelling just like in ryan reynolds film>a relationship between a handsome reverse trap and cute but manly boy
Its a shame this author will probably wont bless us with a chapter where these two make love. I bet this wolfie is reallly cute in bed.
Any romcoms with a bit of tragedy in it? I wanna love, laugh and cry
>>288638370>She definitely has a crush and definitely knows itI loved that Hoshigasaki is trying to pounce on him after learning he wasn't dating Sora. Nice to see a proactive heroine that isn't annoying.
JUST FUCK ALREADY !!! AAAHHHHH
>>288653328What else can you expect from Seo?
>>288654129Ami's nipples.
>>288633187I've been enjoying this one more than I expected. I like that bus driver ojisan gets a bit of character as the silent wingman.
>>288653476It was great.
>>288654176Bangbus when?
>>288654120do you think she'll make him wear knickers and a corset for their first time
Are they married now?
This ain't bad
>>288632452I like Makiba. He looks aloof but he's very friendly and comedic. He knows how to have fun with life
>>288653326Title: My childhood friend is a robot and I love her.>In a similar modern world, robots are commonplace, and look very similar to humans.>Robots are so advanced that you can only tell them apart from humans by their lifeless eyes, mechanical innards, and typically deadpan expressions.>The main character is a highschooler, and has a massive crush on his childhood friend, a robot.>The problem is that such relationships are heavily stigmatized.>To make matters worse, his childhood friend only sees him as a friend, due to the way her code works.>Every time he asks her out, she refuses, noting how she was programmed to be his friend, nothing more, nothing less.>"Besides, nothing good can come from this relationship" she thinks.>Still, the main character and her spend a lot of time together, and he constantly tries to win her over, and doesn't care if other people hear, because his love is the real deal.>One night, one of his classmates sees him trying to woo the robot, and after realizing it's a robot and not a human, rumors start to spread.>This leads to being ostracized, made fun of, and eventually culminates into the main character being beat up while walking home from school.>Our robot heroine's heart stirs seeing her best friend beaten, but he plays it off by saying he was motivated to get at least one punch on the guy who attacked him for making fun of the heroine's honor.>The robot heroine sees this as confirmation that a relationship would never work out.>For the first time in her life, she actually feels something welling in her chest.>Guilt>Because her best friend is so insistent on a relationship with her, he ended up getting hurt.>Days pass by and the protagonist slowly heals up, but she can tell he still gets made fun of while he's at class.>The guilt piles up, and eventually she decides to make a decision that goes against her programming.(1/5?)
>>288655239>She will leave her childhood friend behind, and disappear, so that he doesn't get hurt anymore.>She leaves in the middle of the night, and when the protagonist wakes up, he can’t find her anywhere in his house.>In the end he dismisses it as her perhaps going to the grocery store early.>School is tiring, but when he gets back home he notices she’s still not around.>Now getting worried, he decides to call her on his phone, but she doesn’t pick up at all.>The robot’s “phone” number isn’t out of service, but was declined instead, implying she’s still around somewhere.>It’s at this point that the protagonist realizes he was stupid, and that his mind wasn’t playing tricks on him when she came off as a bit more distant than normal.>She will leave her childhood friend behind, and disappear, so that he doesn't get hurt anymore.>She leaves in the middle of the night, and when the protagonist wakes up, he can’t find her anywhere in his house.>In the end he dismisses it as her perhaps going to the grocery store early.>School is tiring, but when he gets back home he notices she’s still not around.>Now getting worried, he decides to call her on his phone, but she doesn’t pick up at all.>The robot’s “phone” number isn’t out of service, but was declined instead, implying she’s still around somewhere.>It’s at this point that the protagonist realizes he was stupid, and that his mind wasn’t playing tricks on him when she came off as distant.>He immediately leaves the house, and goes out searching for her.>He eventually finds her in a place that's sentimental to the two of them. A cliff in the middle of nature with a fantastic view.>The heroine is surprised to see the protagonist, and when he asks her what she's doing out here and grabs her hand to suggest they go home, she snaps.>She pulls her hand away from him, and walks backwards, getting very close to the perilous edge.(2/5?)
>>288655260>The protagonist worries and tries to get closer to her, and tells her to stop moving.>She just goes on and on about how he shouldn't be here, and that having her around will only result in trouble.>Again the protagonist approaches her, but right as he's about to reach out and pull her to safety, the place where he's standing collapses, and causes part of the cliff to break off.>The heroine manages to grab his arm right in the nick of time, but in doing so the false skin on her hands and wrist rip apart to reveal her robotic frame underneath.>The heroine pulls the protagonist to safety, and then starts to lightly beat his chest in frustration.>"Don't you see? I'm a troublesome girl who can't keep you safe. I know you've been mistreated at school because of me. You even came back from that fight all messed up, and now you even almost died.">The protagonist worries and tries to get closer to her, and tells her to stop moving.>She just goes on and on about how he shouldn't be here, and that having her around will only result in trouble.>Again the protagonist approaches her, but right as he's about to reach out and pull her to safety, the place where he's standing collapses, and causes part of the cliff to break off.>The heroine manages to grab his arm right in the nick of time, but in doing so the false skin on her hands and wrist rip apart to reveal her robotic frame underneath.>The heroine pulls the protagonist to safety, and then starts to lightly beat his chest in frustration.>"Don't you see? I'm a troublesome girl who can't keep you safe. I know you've been mistreated at school because of me. You were even physically assaulted, and just now you almost died.">"Baka! Aho!">"I was made to be your friend, nothing more, nothing less. Knowing that I caused you harm and trouble, it's too much for me to bare.">She sticks her robotic hands in front of his face.>"I'm not even human. See?"(4/5?)
>>288655283>"How is a loving relationship between a human and a robot supposed to work?">"Do you expect me to be a housewife? I can't have children, and I can't even taste any food I make you to know if it's good.">"I don't see how it's possible for this to work.">The protagonist then replies, and tells her that he can't change his feelings, but that he still loves her anyways. She was always there for him, and he wants to always be there for him too.>While the path forward might be messy, and while she may cause him a lot of trouble, he's okay with it, because he loves her.>If he's up against the whole world, so long as he has her by his side then there's no way he can lose.>"Don't cry" he says, as he wipes a single teardrop from her eyes.>It starts to rain>"I'm not cry-" She cuts herself off. "Don't worry, I'm not crying anymore, and I'll stop trying to leave.">"Knowing you, you'd probably never give up no matter what, so I'll acknowledge your feelings, because in the end, I've probably always loved you too.">"I was just scared that things would never work out, and I'd hide behind my role of 'best friend' because I didn't think becoming anything more was possible.>"How could I ever ask for more or go beyond what I was intended for?">But you know, despite all of that, I know you better than anyone else, and I am always at ease when you're around. Maybe my face doesn't show it, but you've given me the happiest, most fun moments of my entire being.>"I'll go out with you if you can answer this one final question. 'Are you really okay with someone heartless like me?'" She smirks>"You're not heartless.">"After all, you have mine don't you?">"Ah, I always have, haven't I?">The two then kiss under a rainy sky, and go back home to start a new life together.(4/5)(I'm such a retard for miscounting)
>>288655320Notes: That tear gag I included with the rain, should be something present throughout the entire series. Whenever it rains, water will collect near the heroine's eyes, and the protagonist will wipe away these droplets and say that she shouldn't cry. This is the only time where she plays along with the idea.This came out more like a romance drama than anything else, but when I was thinking this all up, I figured that the comedy aspect could come in the form of the protagonist trying to woo the robot unsuccessfully in the earlier episodes. It'd only start to get more dramatic as the series reaches the finale.How would you anons rate this? Do you think it could be improved somehow? Or would you consider it impossible to fix based off of how I wrote things.(5/5)
>>288653326Sports manga age-gap harem, all the girls in the team want to fuck their coach, romantic and sport rivalries mix as coach tries his best to not let his students seduce him
>>288653476Tsurezure is so good, one of the few manga that I own physically. The only other romcom that I can think of that pulled off the ensemble is School Zone, it's not quite as good but i still recommend it if you want more Tsurezure
>>288648868This one?
>>288652372>I guess Yukino in being the prettiest in the school and having good grades.Sora is not the prettiest, in fact there is no prettiest mentioned so far.>>288630083Shiramine won't win because author already has another LN with a Shiramine tulpa as main heroine.
>>288650074>>288650105Those were the days, Oregairu S2 had some of the best threads and it was the most fun I've ever had in this site
>>288653326I was actually writing one but life kept getting in the way so I haven't uploaded another chapter in years.
Sensei is actually the prettiest Oregairu and the best catch.
>>288656624>used goods>smokerNah.
It just dawned me on that the russian romcom has 80 chapters and still literally nothing has happened.For some reason it felt so much shorter in my mind, then I saw the chapter count when it was updated recently.
>>288656734The student council drama lasts for many volumes.
>>288656624kek lmao
>>288655922Ah a classic case of a useless bisexual>>288656624I will fix her so she doesn't smoke ever again
>>288656875Cannot imagine how miserable that would've been to sit through at release pace. Even binging it kept dragging on
>>288656624Sensei are always best girls
I can't believe the childhood friend won Osamake
I can't believe people care about Osamake
>>288657530Is the joke that every heroine is the MC's Childhood Friend?
>>288657542Is the joke that no thread has mentioned osamake in years?
>>288657530Worst girl Kuro won?
I read this recently, wished it had way more chapters.
it seems domestic violence victimas are not popular and because of that there is no more translations of this serie
Fact: you can't have romance without sex
>>288657881This one always felt really cheesy and exploitative. Even if they had good intentions, reading it felt creepy.
>>288652519>Volume 4 is Sora's volume and she's wearing Shrine maiden clothes there.Sounds like the author knows pic related
>>288657881I found it weird one chapter it endless of a cliffhanger when he seemly got stabbed and the next they're back to their usual domestic setting.>>288657959You sound like a male feminist
>>288657530>I can't believe the childhood friend won OsamakeShigure Ui won?
>>288657693>>288658058Kuro indeed won
>>288657881the french TL always seems to come faster than the EN one anyways. nice to see a bit of background on why she can't go home though.t.frogspeaker
>>288658181Based. She is unbeatable, even in a romcom.
>>288658288Ui, go sing your loli songs somewhere else.
Since we have so much gyaru x nerd slop, why isn't there more primp and proper girl x gyaru-oh kino?
>>288658317because you don't read shoujo where it's always been a thing
>>288653326>RomCom>Love DodecahedronSave romcom by removing the concept of main/side character>there's that Badboy in love with that Genki girl who is in love with that other Glass guy who is ignoring her because he's sure to marry his Childhood friend but said friend is actually in love with that Kungfu guy who get into fight with Badboy because he love a Tomboy who like bad boy.>early twist a (classic) Tsundere get interested in badboy and glass guy start understanding he have no chance with childhood friend so he asked matchmaker girl for help to get with tomboy>but matchmaker girl is in girllove with childhood friend so she is sabotaging her attempt. They are unaware background boy heard them both conspiring and now matchmaker is into girl>things start getting complicated when Tomboy girl also start loving bad boy who is more and more irritated because he keep accidentally having romantic date with Tsundere while his beloved genki girl is clearly trying to helping tomboy get with him!>Matchmaker sabotage go too far after she make fake confession to Kungfu guy, so she can claim he is already taken, but Kungfu guy managed to find out it was her and accepted her (fake) confession publicly! So as far everyone know they are a couple now. This of course make Childhood girl furax>Genki girl is all gloomy because glass boy really don't care about her, so she turn to bad boy for help to change herself and he is really happy to help, she unknowingly make a enemy of classic tsundere.>the gordian knots start tangling when Background guy tell Childhood girl that Matchmaker is really lesbian while kungfu guy is trying his best to make their dates work, it's like Background guy is badmouthing his girl.>...>Genki girl end up with Background guy>Glass guy end up friendzoned by Childhood girl>she forgave Matchmaker who ceased to hide>Kungfu guy do end up with Tomboy>(classic) tsundere give up right as Badboy fall in love with her.
>>288658458Boy do you want another School Rumble?! Because that's how you get another School Rumble
You all care too much about com and less about rom
>>288653326>Pitch your romcom ideasHear me out:High-cut competition swimsuits
>>288657530>>288657542>>288657693>>288658181Can I get the reandown? I vaguely remember all girls being bitches, bro is a piece of shit and ntr vibes.
>>288658601All I remember was that everyone but the loli was a piece of a shit
I like this one, the designated winner is so strong she even tries to help the losers
>>288637753Will she stay as his half sister? Or we'll get nbr bullshit later on
>>288658601>>288658617MC is specifically not a piece of shit and the designated loli is taller than the childhood friend
>>288658619I can't feel but think she is faking it. Like there was a part where they were in dressing room and the MC wondered if she could be a spy that seem to almost hint it.
>>288658508School rumble was the inspiration, but also a disappointment on the matter.Too many silly gags and no care for consistency.Eri is still a type of classic tsundere we should see more of.
Osamake and Oresuki were both garbage for me because of how much the entire cast were unlikable pieces of shit.
>>288658746>OresukiPansy won at least
>>288659118She sucks. MC would've been better off if he ended up alone instead of any of those girls.
>>288659194>She sucks.How so? She was the only one who legitimately cared for Joro's well being. And it's not her fault that her looks keep attracting unwanted attention from other males.
>>288659118>>288659194Pink twintails was the only good girl.
>>288658619I kinda lost interest when I saw that the LN wasted no time adding more girls.
>>288659296She was manipulative as fuck. They all were, she was just the worst of them. She is also lying about why she cares btw.
>>288658181>Kuro indeed wonI wonder how much the anime bombing influenced this outcome.
>>288659661Are you implying the LN was going for Shiro end until anime ruined it?
Meanwhile, Nourin is getting its next and final volume after five years.
>>288659658>She is also lying about why she cares btw.More details please
>>288659743I mean 10 years.
>>288659743>subhuman footfag MC.>monoshit.Does it really need an end? Just let it rot away in forgetfulness.
>>288659724Yes. All signs pointed to it.
>>288658458That image reminds me to the Gamers misunderstanding chart
>>288659759Basically, she pretended to like him all for her friend. She did later fall for him, but all through the anime, it was her manipulation. You can read about it on the subreddit for that place.
>>288659920>but all through the anime, it was her manipulation.Shame we never got a second season to see this
>>288659873Lol, lmao even
>>288659338>More girlsHoly dropped. 4 was literally the perfect number.
>>288660016You should try shoujo it's got all the emotional abuse and gaslighting you want.
>>288660057reading shoujo romcom is always a mindfuck when it comes to the men "competing" and I am forced to take a step back and ask myself if women think this is how men have conflicts or if they're just writing it that way so that the girls reading it understand they're fighting.
>>288653356God Himari went to shit after the editor switch. That line is straight up fucking character assassination. Himari fell for Tenichi because of all of the things he did for her outside of his capacity as her housekeeper. Things like being there for her on the school trip and recording the fireworks to show her on a projector when she couldn't make it to the festival. Those are also the times that, despite his middle school crush, he put Himari over Honoka because she clearly meant more to him. It's so frustrating to read. They had fantastic chemistry in the first half of the manga and it just fucking vanished. I'm glad this manga is almost fucking over, but no ending will leave me satisfied at this point.
>>288660151Ah yes classic idiotic editors with their shite meddling
>>288660026Excuse me for not being bright as you anon. Cause long black haired girls win all the time.
>>288656674I'll take her.
>>288653326Josei domcom. The main character is the losing childhood friend heroine of a high school harem that hasn't gotten over it ten years later. The manga alternates between her bittersweet memories of losing in a generic harem and her developing romance with an aggressive proactive dude that's the opposite of a harem lead
>>288660179>>288660300The author gave out hints already on how it would end in his tweets. He based all the main and supporting cast on Fire Emblem characters, with Maru being Marth and Kuro being Caeda
>>288653326Your typical otaku loner story, but he doesn't get saved by a girl. He cultivates self respect and discipline, going from a pervert NEET to a hardworking and well-adjusted member of society that people like, with good social skills while remaining authentic. Once he's no longer desperate for a relationship, some of the women in his life begin seeing him as a man and romance shenanigans ensue. It's a little unrealistic.
>>288660387It is unrealistic because once they learn he has no relationship experience they will walk away.Happened twice
>>288659743It didn't already end!? Did the author have a decade long melty?I loved the anime. Minori faithful too. The idol doesn't even like the MC IIRC so it is a smooth CF win.
>>2886502267mura's brutal loser life is honestly the funniest part.
>>288660176I actually think it's the probably opposite. I'm willing to bet the new editor didn't do a good enough job of steering Ono and saying shit like, "Hey, so this is super out of character for her and really doesn't track with the way she's behaved throughout literally the entire manga up to this point". I think Ono is the one at fault. In fact, I'm damn near certain of it.
What is the best archetype for romcon MC?
I have been meaning to read Aishiteru Game because I am quite enjoying the anime, even though it's quite low budget.It's been giving me Gosling feelings.Anyone here read it?
>>288660522whoever is at fault, both of them fucking failed at their job.Thank god Kanna got to leave early and not have to suffer
>>288660434I'm sorry, Anon.
>>288660527At this point, anything that isn't >Loser>Average guyIs enough for me to consider him good. It's that bad now.
>>288660379>The author gave out hints already on how it would end in his tweets.Oh, my bad for not following him on Twitter. >Maru being Marth and Kuro being CaedaSo Shiro is Catria then, that's sad.
>>288660540>Thank god Kanna got to leave earlyYeah. She deserved to be a heroine in a better manga. >and not sufferNo, she had to do plenty of that.
>>288660527>What is the best archetype for romcon MC?Assertive, not dense, and puts the effort in improving himself.
>>288660530Stallslop
>>288660530Manga is so much better than the anime it's insulting they made such low budget slop. The part after what the anime is gonna adapt is incredibly divisive though and luckily you get to skip the waiting so it's not as bad. The good moments make up for the really bad stuff that's to come.
>>288660530Underlying NTR vibes if you're ahead in the manga
>>288660550>average guy badso you want to read shoujo exclusively, enjoy your rapechads and wistful stares anon
>>288660615 I want a guy with an actual personality. Average guy is just an excuse to create a bland as fuck dude.
>>288660527Delinquent with a heart of gold is my favorite but realistically, academic asshole is probably the strongest archetype since it's free character development and has automatic strong dynamics you don't have to with hard for. I imagine that's why it got so popular after 5toubun.One thing I like but almost always goes poorly is cinnamon bun super nice guy.I agree that loser MCs have gotten way too common. It's insane that so many of them don't even have a single nominal redeeming trait like just being nice anymore.
>>288660550This is why I love Arisu Yamabuki. Mayotuna may have its fair share is problems, but this motherfucker's personality is not one of them.
>>288660552Yes, quite fucking literally is what he said verbatim
>>288660530>It's been giving me Gosling feelings.You'll be hit by the stone wall if you read the manga.
>>288660659insecurity has replaced rival/NTR as the main source of conflict in romcoms because people don't like cheating thots. loser MC makes it easy for him to improve and overcome that.Aishteru is one of the worst offenders for this because it combines free relationship due to CF, loser insecurity AND tosses in heaping servings of NTRbait with the sportfes asshole suddenly wanting to be with Miku
I'd like competent but exceedingly kind MCs to make a come back. The type whose actions can reform even bad guys. The kind who gives hope to others.Yes I like savior type MCs or ones with a heroic complex.
>>288660769Jesus fucking Christ. Was it written by a woman?
>>288660769Why do people read this? Like does it have moments that make sitting through it worthwhile or are you like rent a gf fans too stuck in sunk cost fallacy to drop?
Angel Next Door Spoils Me Rotten is genuinely a shoujo series published under a shounen publisher
>>288660852>>288660860It's not that frequent, but it shows up enough that it's part of its identity. Yuki is really in his own head until he starts dating Miku for real and even then it's only slowed down instead of disappearing.It's incredibly grating to deal with, but the good moments make it worthwhile.
>>288660814Alec from Seven Sleeping Beauties isn't necessarily competent (in fact he's a massive fucking himbo)l, which I think is just great) but he's persistent enough to power through the problems he faces and able to work alongside the heroines to get shit done. The dude also most definitely has a hero complex. Saving the princess(es) and the doomed kingdom is his whole motivation as a character. I think he's pretty likable.
>>288660900I like characters with nuance. I like characters who have insecurities to overcome. But constantly grappling with that same, NTR-bait insecurity even after he gets the girl? That sounds utterly fucking insufferable to read. Honestly I've heard before that Aishiteruge isn't that great in the first place, but that collage is more than enough for me to say "no thanks".
I have started reading more and more gookshit as of late because I can't deal with how imasculated the median jap has gotten.If you guys are up for it, I recommend Webtoon Character Na Kang Lim.
>>288660947I don't blame you, the NTRbait got so fucking bad during the Sportsfes that the comment section for one of the chapters was wiped and locked (or something to that effect) because people were calling out the author.
>>288660954>I recommend Webtoon Character Na Kang Lim.No need to recommend me one of my all time favorites, anon. Ra-mi is best girl.
>>288660814I like them in theory and I've enjoyed them in the past but these days that kind of protagonist is usually awful. You usually see them in isekai now and a lot of the worst trends of isekai have bled out into romcoms featuring them. I read this terrible manga the other night and it's got a shoelacer family, onahole heroines that have no personality except loving the MC, and everyone around sucking the MC's dick.>>288660864I thought that constantly while reading it too. It feels like the female lead gets a way better deal than the male lead and that if their genders were reversed no one would question it as a romcom.
>>288660992The author sounds like a hack if that's consistently been the main way he can come up with to create "tension". That's the very definition of low-brow melodrama.
These two are so fucking cute man, why cant they both date the MC and haven an harem ending ?
>>288661037here's a graveyard of canned projects that will attest to that. I will cut him some slack too and tell you that he was having a bunch of health issues during the worst arc in the manga and that probably affected his writing even when it wasn't being delayed.It's not all bad, the payoff moments for Yuki and Miku are really fucking nice and are so good they make you deal with the constant bullshit of the Love Game and of Yuki's insecurities.
>>288661005>the worst trends of isekai have bled out into romcoms featuring themI call this "Narōfication". Romcoms were once primarily the domain of manga, with a handful of standouts like Toradora. But nowadays even a huge portion of romcom manga are Narō slop that are champing at the bits to incorporate every popular trope on the site at any given time to get views and a publishing deal.
>>288660864I had debate a while back with a good friend on whether or not the series is secretly meant to appeal to girls considering how many fuckin problems Amane solves and just how many things Mahiru gains by just even being friends with him. And at the end of the 2nd or so volume everyone finds out he's a secret hottie and if he only put a bit of effort he'd be mega popular.
>>288661089The osananajimi is why I dropped this manga. She's way, way too fucking precious. I can't stand the thought of seeing her lose. I don't know why the fuck she was introduced in the first place when she'll obviously never have a chance.
>>288660814I dislike Captain Save-a-Hoe stories if that’s all it really takes to make the heroines fall for you. Kanokari girls basically all fall for the same guy for the same exact reason not because of their compatibility, chemistry, or their ability to hold a conversation with each other. The protag is not even a particularly virtuous guy they were just there in the moment saving the girls from oceans, stairs, dying grandmas, guys who want sex without permission, money problems, and they all happen to love him for it and unironically call him a hero it’s really shallow.
I cant stand this gag of the president not knowing the dude she is in love when she is drunk is her subordinate who is also in love with her. This makes me unreasonable mad.
>>288661127I honestly think the author is a woman. Amane's internal monologue in the light novel does not read like it was written by a man. Him constantly having to abate his "urges as a man", while endlessly swooning over how perfect his girlfriend is and how nothing in life can possibly effect him now that she's with him, does not track with the romance slop I've read from male writers.
>>288661146Automatic Designated Loser girls are always the best because the author isn't forced to write him as a romcom heroiine who has the play the game. They're allowed to like the MC, pursue them, express themselves and be upfront about what they want.
>>288661005Both this and the buttler one were kino or you stopped treating it seriously.
>>288661005I don't really like those stories either and I don't think that guy qualifies or at least isn't the kind of MC I'm looking for.I'm thinking more Seiichirou from Angel Densetsu, Machida-kun, Takeo from Oremonogatari
>>288661173This is Reiji's bread and butter. In Shiunji-ke, 3 of Arata's 5 sisters fall for him because he's their savior. The other 2 have just always loved him. Arata is still substantially better than Kazuya, however, because he's at least willing to punch a motherfucker in the face for laying hands on his onee-san. Although he should have done it a lot sooner.>>288661226Were you in one if the recent Hima-Ten threads? Because I feel like I saw someone say the exact same thing about Kanna verbatim. I don't necessarily disagree with it, but I'm personally fucking fed up with seeing proactive heroines get shit on when they're the only ones who try.
>>288661173I don't necessarily mean for the heroines, I just mean in general I adore those MCs that give everything to the people around them. I'm a sap at heart and I like good people doing good things even if it doesn't benefit them.
>>288661335Nariyuki may have been a bit bland in his characterization, but he fits this description and he was a big part of why Bokuben worked as well as it did. He was just a genuinely good dude who helped the people who mattered to him and wanted to make a better life for his poor as shit family. I love Bokuben.
>>288661322yea probably me. Kanna was especially bad because she was introduced so late into the manga that it made no sense for her to be serious competition and Otobe was kinda early enough to be in the running, but her design and behaviour is obviously that of just being there to pad the numbers.It's been so long since I've seen a multi-route where there wasn't an obvious designated winner, antagonist and then filler.
>>288661382Nariyuki is a bit of a funny case because he was obviously meant to be an academic asshole protagonist in the first chapter and then gave way to being cuter than the girls at some point
>>288661226That's why Marika was my favourite girl in Nisekoi
>>288661416His characterization literally shifted by the end of the first chapter. So I don't think he was necessarily intended to be an asshole, more like he was presented as being one only for the author to quickly reveal that he's actually just a good dude who had a chip on his shoulder that was immediately blown away when he actually met and interacted with the girls he had one-sided beef with. We do see his "I don't have time for this shit" side come out in his interactions with Mafuyu and her slovenly behavior, though.
>>288661383I think there's some use to a third heroine that's obviously a loser. Any more than three is usually pointless, but the poor third heroine who's usually more aggressive than the first two is good for plot structuring if you can bare to see her losing. It gives the MC a "starter relationship" to frame him being able to handle girls better as the manga progresses and it establishes what's important to him in a relationship. The rejection of the third heroine usually gives a strong pivot to the end game choice too.The latecomer being best girl is kind of an unfortunate side effect a lot of the time because she gets to dodge a lot of the common romcom stalling gimmicks and has to capture an audience instantly instead of having set up chapters. I usually think of their suffering as a necessary sacrifice for a lot of stories.
>>288661455Bizarrely enough, I fucking love proactive heroines but couldn't stand Marika. She just did not do it for me. Nisekoi in general was super over the top, but I found her advances to be legitimately grating.
>>288661503yea, it's the same thing every time. the third girl gets treated as the first pancake by the MC
>>288661527I think the author didn't use her very well. She was the most honest about her feelings and the he had no idea of how make that work in a serious arc. She was just there as a supportive heorine to set up a fews gags.
>>288661599It's ok, she wound up marrying her true love Y-san
>>288660527Entertaining.Archetype is irrelevant if your MC isn't worth following.>>288661089At first I was hesitant but I'm enjoying Shiori's inclusion. I love how she is an active participant and pushes Miyamoto forward, and vice versa.The anime can't come soon enough.
>>288661634It's remarkable how much I'm able to like Yuu despite him being the single most dense protagonist I've ever seen in a harem romcom. That little fucker is just so god damn charming, and I never get sick of seeing him make tomboys crumple.
>>288661599I think you're right yeah. In the same manga you can just compare her to Tsugumi and see how much more effective and dignified of a losing heroine Tsugumi is. Tsugumi's arc was so good that her loss itself might be my favourite part of the entire run.
>>288661634That's a non-answer>EntertainingAnything can be entertaining to different people.
>>288661684Same. I love his attitude and his solemn vow to get his family.>>288661693Then I can the answer is to each his ownPersonally, I'm more of an execution guy. Love it when archetypes tackle different personalities and make it appealing.
>>288661763I probably have about 20 or 30 chapters of Mikadono banked up to read. I ought to do that when I finish with this old battle shōnen later today.
>>288632902>come to the thread>this time I won't be randomly picking up anything for sureWhy am I stuck waiting for the last few chapters now, fuck.
>>288661960I just put shit on my backlog if it sounds appealing. It's very rare that I read a manga straight away from seeing it in one if these threads.
>>288661322The problem with Kazuya is he isn’t willing to punch himself in the face repeatedly unless it’s for the sake of Mizuhara and nobody else. Regardless if it’s for Mizuhara he really needs to do that.>>288661335You probably like sacrifice stories. I don’t think Kanokari is particularly one unless you look at what some of the heroines try to do.Ruka is willing to become second to Mizuhara despite really not wanting to and Mizuhara is not willing to make her unhappy by stealing her boyfriend from under her.Mini despite being the third wheel has thoughts and makes decisions that really make you question her intentions as if she’s trying to do more for the person she loves without really putting herself out there.Sumi supports Mizuhara so she gives up her feelings to make her and the person she has feelings with happy.This manga may be pure shit but I do like almost all of the heroines except Mizuhara.
>>288662101>The problem with Kazuya is he isn’t willing to punch himself in the face repeatedlyThe problem with Kazuya is that he isn't willing to fucking kill himself. He should commit suicide and Reiji should have Chizuru get with Mami instead. They're both terrible fucking people. They deserve each other.
>>288628474>THE romcom>Oregairu and Haganaimasterful bait, even fucking gotoubun felt closer to THE romcom than these two ever did
>>288662101I feel like Reiji is actually a very capable character writer and a talented mangaka who simply and genuinely prefers writing bullshit than trying to make anything very good. Like it's neither about money or ability to him, he just knows all he needs to about making good manga but has followed his heart, and his heart has led him to hundreds of chapters of dogshit.
>>288662169Granted all three of these series join TLR and Love Hina in kicking off countless copy cat series in their era. I'm really surprised honestly that Nisekoi clones didn't really pick up.
>>288658720How did school rumble ended ? i remember reading come of the final chapters that showed the dude the main girl was in love with in bed or some hospital with his head covered in bandages.And the mangaka stopped drawing manga after that.
>>288662169That's because 5toubun was THE romcom. The only romcom from its era to outsell it was Kaguya-sama, and that was only by about 10% with over twice the number of volumes. 5toubun's per-volume sales slaughtered Kaguya-sama. It sold 6.5 million in a single year. People can seethe over it, they can seethe over the ending, but 5toubun is unquestionably the most successful and prolific modern romcom manga and it's not even particularly close. Negi made magic happen. He made a harem romcom that was practically mainstream with audiences across the globe.
>>288662263Eri and Harima get fuckin hitched and it's the only thing that I remember. Got I love Tsundere x Delinquent romances
>>288662184It really does feel like all of the shit surrounding RAG is Reiji just shitposting in manga format because it's all so over the top yet carefully constructed to not be incompetent.
>>288662184>I feel like Reiji is actually a very capable character writer and a talented mangaka who simply and genuinely prefers writing bullshit than trying to make anything very goodI would go so far as to say this is straight up fact. The movie making arc, and the way it culminates, is proof that he can easily lock in and write something genuinely great. But I don't think he'd rather write bullshit. I think he'd rather draw his waifu for as long as possible while making copious, disgusting amounts of money. Quite frankly I can't really hold it against the guy. Some mangaka want to create art. Some want to tell a compelling story. Some just want to draw what they love and make money for it. Kanokari might suck, but by all accounts Reiji is a very likable guy who. I have no issue with him.
I've always loved it when childhood friends won
>>288662365I wish you were Fumiaki Maruto.
>>288662292I know, anon... I miss it too...
>>288662386Why would you ever wish that on me anon
>>288662411Because if he loved CF's, I wouldn't have had to deal with his emotional bait fakeout bullshit TWICE.
>>288630140no, there is no romance (no relationship)it's a SOL
>>288662365Volume 11 genuinely fucking melted me. God I love Childhood Friends SO FUCKING MUCH RAAAAAAAGH
osanananananajimmies rustled
>>288662447He's baited childhood friend lovers not once, not twice but 3 fuckin times.
>>288662533I only know of one time, Imasara. In Saekano the CF clearly never stood a chance. What was the 3rd time?
>>288662533You know what really fucks me up? I swore I would never touch anything he wrote ever again after Saekano. The rug pull in that series enraged me in ways I still can't express to this day. And then I read, weekly, from the first fucking chapter, the first 20 chapters of his new manga WITHOUT KNOWING IT WAS WRITTEN BY HIM. THAT MOTHERFUCKER GOT ME AGAIN.GOD I fucking hate Fumiaki Maruto.
>>288662588Quit being a tsundere and just admit you're in love.
>>288662624I make a habit of asking about his cancer diagnosis every time I see a thread for that manga. I know he doesn't have cancer. I'm just holding out hope.
I've had a KamiNomi withdrawal recently, so I decided to read that Wakaki manga that finished recently (3 years ago, lol).It was quite an interesting change going from a harem to a pretty much predetermined winner, but I think he pulled it off. It's a pretty fluffy manga. No drama, no big twists, just a really nice experience. These works are great when done right. The pacing should be good, the side stories should never overtake the main one and the couple must not bore or aggravate you 20 chapters in. I think it met all my criterias and I enjoyed it very much.
>>288662565It's not about the CF winning or losing. It's about him going out of his way to treat them like shit.
>>288662498Kusoooo, I wish had my own osananajimi romance
>>288662710So what's the 3rd time?
>>288662709I liked this manga well enough, but the ultimatum the FL gave the ML toward the end of the manga really frustrated me. Yeah, it all turned out to be for the best, or whatever. But it just didn't sit well with me. I did like the manga and the ending, but that part will always bother me. t. massive Chihirofag.
It's okay, the world doesn't let childhood friends win as well.
>>288634991it actually works for this one
>>288662565>>288662729I misremembered, I forgot Setsuna wasn't actually a Childhood Friend.I guess you really wanna reach, Engage Kiss.
>>288634991I liked it in Chiyo Kuno
>>288662785>I guess you really wanna reach, Engage Kiss.Ah yes, that anime that had no childhood friends.
>>288662729I dunno. I've only read/watched two of his works, and they both employed a sudden, emotionally-manipulative tone-shift that shit all over their characters and turned what was an otherwise fun and humorous story into something absolutely miserable. He's the reason I now autistically check the names of authors as well as their previous works. Which recently saved me from reading something by the author of the High School Prodigy isekai, which also has a terrible fucking final act/ending. I'm gonna leave it at that though because I don't want to shit up the thread by seething about him any more than I already have.
>>288662745I think Wakaki understands his characters more than he likes to write them out, that's why he likes to pull stuff like that. Keima rejecting Chihiro was also like that and only with knowing the ending can you stomach it. Also, autistic women are scary.>ChihirofagSame here, brother. Still haven't let go.
I kinda knew it wouldn't end with something concrete considering they're still so young but I wished there was a timeskip ending or something.
>>288662887>spoilerI actually think that whole scene was brilliantly handled and felt that it perfectly conveyed Keima and his emotions and motivations. That's why I was ride or die for best girl all the way to the end: when she fucking won.I will never stop posting this.
Started Seven Sleeping Beauties since someone mentioned it earlier in this thread. It's very nice, thanks.I really like that the male lead is "progressive" without being a total pushover. You don't often see a lead seriously consider the ethics of their romcom shenanigans like this and take accountability over everything they do.
>>288653746this isn't romcom, there's no comedy and there is no romance
>>288663017Anon. People on this board think Blue Box is a romcom.
>>288661146she's throuple bait
>>288663039I don't care what people thinkno comedy= not romcom (comedy missing)no relationship for more than half of the manga = not romcom (romance missing)gets together 1 chapter before the end = slice of life manga, not romcom (romance missing)
>>288663041Yeah. Bait. It'll never happen.
>>288663080I agree with your first point, but not the second two. You can have romance without being in a relationship. That's how most romantic stories work, in fact.
>>288662292If it was that good as you say it was it would have had more chapters. Fact. By the way I have never seen a good toubun post that wasn’t just the usual shitpost and Kaguya was just better and still has better discussions than what any quints fan tries to do.
>>288662958I 100% agree with you on KamiNomi, anon. I guess I was unclear and re-reading what I wrote even made me question my basic communication skills.Guess what I meant to say was Wakaki likes to force conflict on the characters who HE knows can handle it and not lay it all out on the table.Man, I do sound like a schizo at this point, but I can't find the correct words to describe what I mean. Anyway, TENRIFAGS BTFO
>>288663116Toubunfags don't make threads because they've moved on to other manga that were inspired by it and frequently discuss it there. Have you never seen a Mayotuna thread? Kaguya-sama barely gets threads either. Nor do any other of the harem horse race manga that people moved on from when they finished. >If it was that good as you say it was it would have had more chapters. Fact.Saying something retarded and punctuating it with "Fact" does not make it factual. Negi always intended 5toubun to be relatively short. He had another manga he wanted to write but was advised to do 5toubun first to cement his place in the magazine. And now he's rich, copping royalties from the merch and spin-offs that 5toubun is still getting (new anime soon btw), and happily writing his weird, esoteric sentai manga with no fear of it getting axed for having shit sales because he's WSM royalty and has a permanent place in the magazine. It's like when directors make a movie with wide appeal to procure funding for the artsy passion project they really want to make. One for them, one for me. Negi fucking won.
>>288660504My life isn't that different but the only part I would call brutal is my lack of work-life balance .
>>288663173>spoiler 12 years later and fags are STILL mad. God it's great.
>>288663001You're welcome, anon! Alec is a terrific protagnist. The series isn't high art, but it's a ton of fun and the heroines have agency and constantly contribute to the narrative instead of serving as set dressing or only existing to be potential love interests. Chiara is best girl.
Kaminomi always hurts because I've always been an Osananajimifag and Tenri have been the second hardest worker in that series despite knowing 100% she'll never get what she wants. I'm just glad my favourite heroine (Elsie) got a relatively nice conclusion
>>2886632692 years more than their girl. Officially stole the title of "most delusional" from her.Is there even any point in spoilering KamiNomi at this point? I guess I'll still do it because I hope summerfags will read it.
>>288663329The way he got there was a little sloppy on account of rushing the ending, but I'm really happy with how Elsie's arc wrapped up. She deserved the best. For what it's worth, I really like Tenri. Her magic tricks are just adorable. Tenrifags, however, are another story. Their tears sustain me.
>>288663329Tenri was my favourite heroine, she's the only Heroine with a Goddess that had an interesting dynamic with their goddess and Keima. Aside from Apollo and Kanon, the others felt very tacked on desu
>>288663368>Is there even any point in spoilering KamiNomi at this point?Not really, but I was just following your lead. I also want more people to read it. But I doubt there are many romcomfags on /a/ who haven't.
>>288661146>The osananajimi is why I dropped this mangaSame but I don't really care much about her, it's just that her existing at all shows the author will stall the story and in general doesn't know what to do with the characters or even the good points of his story, just the main couple figuring out theor relationship while they struggle to make their way into the manga industry is enough plot to carry the story in interesting ways and instead of he went with the most overused plot possible, after that there was no hope for anything interesting to ever happen here, just the most basic loser x mpdg romance
>>288663383I thought Yui and Mars were pretty great. Mars telling her sisters that Yui would straight up rape Keima is still one of the most hilariously out-of-pocket things I've ever read.
>>288663241Why is Toubon a good romcom? I don’t want to hear about how it made the author filthy rich and successful I don’t care. And which manga exactly did it inspire? There was a reason why I never picked up toubon and the constant glazing for it without any clear reason was exactly why.
>>288661146+1I hate this sort of shit. Keep it mono. I'm CF diehard too so it hurts double for me.
>>288663383I wasn't truly that fond of the Goddesses either. Tenri & Diana, Apollo & Kanon and Mars & Yui were alright. The others I agree aren't well implemented. My only other big complaint was Haqua was so underutilized in the final arc
>>288663401Take me back to 2014...Also, the collage always bugs me because there were threads with spoilers/raws/chinese TL before that one. Had funny posts there too iirc.
>>288663476>Why is Toubon a good romcom?It has a protagonist that isn't a pushover and heroines with well-written, interpersonal dynamics with one another and not just the protagnist who actually behave like sisters. It's also funny. >And which manga exactly did it inspire?Every harem manga in WSM that came after it. Amagami is a very obvious one, which was even written by Negi's assistant. The more even obvious one is Mayonaka Heart Tune, which I mentioned in my previous post. Another is Shiunji-ke, Reiji Miyajima's other manga, in which 4 of the 5 heroines are blatantly based on the Nakano quintuplets. The difference is that 5toubun is "Which of these five hot sisters are you going to marry?" Whereas Shiunji-ke is "Which of YOUR five hot sisters are you going to marry?"
>>288663241The sad thing is how no one has yet copied what made toubun fun to read, they just focus on keeping the heroines mostly equal instead of having a main girl, what made toubun great, especially early on, was how the arcs had a clear goal or win condition (which F usually failed at) and how almost every chapter ends in a cliffhanger, there was always something to talk about besides who the winner would be
Sora kinda pisses me off with how much meddling she does. Nanamura also pisses me off, he's very realistic in being a loser that it kinda hurts to read
>>288663622Igarashi tried, but he's too interested in emphasizing the harem whodunnit aspect of Mayotuna with never-ending hints and clues that have resulted in it being obvious that he just wants to have leeway to let whichever heroine win that he decides on in the moment. I love that manga, but it definitely hasn't captured the same magic that Negi managed to evoke. The art is just incredible though. Nene's fucking nenes.
>>288663640It's great isn't it
>>288663671>Igarashi triedHe's the worst offender, he completely relies on the mysterybait to keep the manga going while the girls are mostly walking tropes who keep repeating their development and no looming drama or problems that could change the status quo, it's no surprise the manga never managed to become a big seller, even Seo's new harem is already beating it
FUCK, he's LITERALLY ME
>>288663767>He's the worst offenderYou'll hear no argument from me. Trying is not the same as succeeding, and he definitely failed to understand that made the mystery element of 5toubun work. Fortunately Iko and Nene exist to make up for it, so I don't mind too much.
>>288663671Isn’t this just Nisekoi but different?
>>288663640>Sora kinda pisses me off with how much meddling she does.This, meanwhile Hoshigacutie is a miracle of the universe.
>>288663804Too relatable
>>288663476I'm part of the camp that dislikes the ending but toubun was popular because it had a strong independent male lead after an era that popularized dense pushovers and had girls who all received relatively equal focus and development paired. You can see what it inspired by the sharp uptick in "tutor" style leads who're either academically gifted or bring some specific skill to the table like being a fitness instructor to a dorm or being a house cleaner. Before then those leads were basically unheard of and the usual tie-in between the male lead and the harem was just like, they share a class, there's one girl he has a crush on to start, and then a new girl rolls into his life and they take up 80% of the female focus.
>>288663833I would say it's based more on 5toubun, especially since all of the heroines are introduced at the start. But yes. It's a harem whodunnit. Its resident tsundere mogs Chitoge, though. And I fucking love Chitoge.
I rather liked Maou ga Inaka ni Totsuidara.Lovey dovey
>>288663861I like her interactions with 7mura. It's like seeing a dog trying to get along with a cat
>>288663804Lucky for me I like both these things! Unfortunately a lot of the isekaifags on /a/ are horribly fucking insufferable. I just want to talk about how cute the heroines are without having people sperg out about being a cuck because I don't give a shit that they aren't a virgin.
Osananajimi romcom overload
>>288663804Something about the main girl in that makes her annoying. I don't know what it is.
>>288664006She's meddlesome and persistent
>>288664006I haven't read much of it, though I intend to read the chapters I've been letting build up eventually, but I do remember her being pretty pushy and intrusive. I liked the wingwoman dynamic the author seemed to be setting up for her, though.
>>288664006Yeah, I only like Hoshigasaki.
>>288663833Nisekoi really deemphasized the mystery aspect. There's a mystery girl but the series doesn't try to give hints enough to even be a bad mystery, it's just a plot hook that's in the background until they decided to trigger it. In that regard Nisekoi is just kind of carrying forward the tradition established by Love Hina compared to the post-toubun series that slowly feed you information.I think there're actually shockingly few romcoms that resemble Nisekoi in practice despite its success. It was kind of the last big romcom manga before light novel trends got popular and the genre as a whole started shifting around a lot. There're a hundred Yahari clones and Yahari came out in the same era so it seemed to have eaten up a lot of the interest but like, Raku is basically the last major dense nice guy protagonist, Shuu and Ruri are like the last B-couple that get major focus, and the two girl dynamic of yamato nadeshiko you have a crush on vs new it girl you're stuck with didn't show up in anything notable until Himaten which is like a decade later.
>>288664032>>288664061>meddlesome and persistent>pushy and intrusiveWe said the same thing with different words kek.
>>288664085>Raku is basically the last major dense nice guy protagonistI think that distinction belongs to Nariyuki. Uruka spent the better part of 140 chapters absolutely hurling herself at that motherfucker before she finally got fed up enough to confess.
>>288663671Nene is kind of a failure as a character, she never got to be tsun enough to get gap moe appeal but she's also not as dere as the other girls, she feels like the conclusion of the neotsundere type that's only tsun for a chapter or two and end up mostly as comedic relief, it's not surprising she ended up as the lest popular girl by a large margin
>>288638255Just that much better than most series across all genre
>>288664071She's nice, and actually has stuff in common with the main character.
>>288664127>I think that distinction belongs to NariyukiYou mean Yuu, over 200 chapters arleady, the girls have done everything except outright confessing and he still has no idea they like him and hasn't even considered the possibility of liking one of them romantically
>>288664032Funny because Mashiro is supposed to be the meddlesome one yet Sora manages to eclipse her
>>288664135>she's also not as dere as the other girlsSurely you can't be saying that after chapter 90? She's been on a war path for 30 straight chapters. She's played Arisu like a fiddle and hasn't held back on her affections at all.
>>288663894The fact that none of the things that made toubon popular works on any other manga inspired by toubon is telling. Maybe we should take a step back and stick to new girl stories instead of pointless shoelacer harems.
>>288664214She's so Nino it fuckin hurts
>>288664177I agree, but it depends on how much emphasis you want to put on the word "major" in the initial statement. Because Mikadono is not a series that has achieved the level of success and recognition of Nisekoi and Bokuben.
>>288664071Hoshigasaki has good chemistry with him and he seems to have the most fun with her.I don't get why Sora even likes him, he's done 2 nice things for her but he hurts her feelings constantly.
>>288664227The difference is that Nene actually has a chance. She's Igarashi's favorite heroine. They even share a birthday which is a date that holds significance in one if the Apollo (13?) missions, which of course landed in the ocean.
It's kinda funny that I expected Hoshigasaki to be a tsundere based on her initial interaction with 7mura but she's more of a shy airhead. I like it more the fact that the closest tsundere to 7mura is actually Shiramine
>>288664177I'm going to have to defend my man over here. The sisters aren't really helping their case either, and Yuu made it clear that his family interest is platonic. Also, we know who the winner is.
>>288664293Hashimoto setting up Mikarin as a hardcore tsundere who hates Masamune in 2.5, only to have her tsun completely collapse and her immediately throw herself at him in full dere mode the instant she sees him is one of the greatest things I've ever read in a romcom. God she was fucking based.
>>288664263I suspect saving your life has something very much to do with it and the fact she knows he's a good person, he's just an inconsiderate prick. Based on her monologues, she tells herself she likes seeing him progress as a person and it's "not anything romantic"
>>288664336>Also, we know who the winner is.Enlighten me.
>>288664336Mikadad is genuinely going to steal Yuu from the sisters at this rate
>>288664214>Surely you can't be saying that after chapter 90?Yes, one decet chapter doesn't makes her anything less of a slog to read, she needed to be way more tsun for the turn to work
>>288664192To Sora's defense Nanamura is a fucking retard that she has to use the kids gloves with. She has so little trust in his social skills she had to make sure he wasn't alone with Hoshigasaki, for her sake.
>>288664348I found him to be really relatable. Is this a bad thing?
>>288664363It's only a matter of time.>>288664371I'm sure Subaru will be happy about it in the afterlife.
>>288664397I couldn't disagree more. Igarashi did a great job of balancing her tsun with her dere early on (the school trip arc is kino) before having her shift hard after realizing the meaning of her conflicting emotions in chapter 84 and launching her dere campaign in chapter 90. I also think he's having her be more proactive to boost her popularity because he's sad that she keeps getting mogged in popularity polls. And I think it's working, too. People outside of /a/ (you know where) are starting to theorize more and more that she's Apollo. Nene is fucking great.
>>288664454Yes, because I also find him relatable and that's bad because I'm a loser with shit tier social skills too
>>288664336>The sisters aren't really helping their case eitherThe sisters being shit doesn't make him any better
>>288664493Training camp arc* The school trip is where she locks in.
7MURA YOU FUCKIN RETARDAAAAAAAH
>>288664493This level of cope ain't healthy
>>288664581You said she's not as dere as the other girls. That hasn't been true for 30 chapters. I'll happily provide proof.
>>288664544Don't put out signals that are open to interpretation to the guy who made it clear that he will go for the most innocent one. It's not that hard to understand.
>>288661684I don't really mind him being dense since he's got plenty of other things going for him. He's just such a likable guy. And it's good for gags besides.
>>288650066Places like /dbs/ and /isekai/ are shitholes shittier than the most gamed and botted threads on /v/ so honestly its your problem.
>>288664619>the guy who made it clear that he will go for the most innocent oneSo you're saying Niko will win for sure. Based.
>>288664600>That hasn't been true for 30 chaptersMeaning the other three have a lot more dere than her, and she was never tsun enough to get a boost from that, she deserves to be the least popular
>>288664647She would have been if it wasn't for...
>>288664659It's not like she never had her moments before then. She even has the first major act of dere in the entire manga. But yes, obviously the other heroines were more overtly affectionate early on than the tsundere heroine. >>288664702God I feel for this girl. She's so likable but she never had a chance.
>>288664223I mean, they're romcoms that survive and have some fanbase so it's not like it isn't working. There just aren't really any new romcoms that've blown up in recent years but these clones do better than like, the graveyard of 25 chapter long c-list magazine romcoms.I'm not sure if a romcom can get truly popular anymore without bringing something new to the table.
>>288664742>She's so likable but she never had a chanceFunny you say that since a family ending is an actual reasonable one here.
>>288664347I still can't fucking believe that she won
>>288664820I would have been fucking shocked if she hadn't.
>>288664742>She even has the first major act of dere in the entire manga.Which fucked her for the rest of the manga since no one believed her tsun, good tsunderes need to strike a balance, neotsunderes in general fail at it but Nene is probably the worst at it I've seen
>>288664828I feel like there's a recent trend for one girl in the harem to become more popular than all the rest put together
Every once in a while you read some new romcom for the hell of it knowing it will be slop and being prepared, it still hurts reading trash.>OH NOOOOO WE CAN'T LET THE SCHOOL KNOW THAT A BOY TALKED TO A PRETTY GIRL>OI, REGULAR BOY, HOW DARE YOU TALK TO PRETTY GIRLI can let it slide a bit more when it's older stuff, but to still write this shit in 2026, oof.the CPR mom one
>>288664829>good tsunderes need to strike a balanceYou're not advocating for balance. You're advocating for her being fully tsun rather than an actual mixture of tsun and dere. Which I don't have a problem with: like I said, I love Chitoge. But when would you suggest Nene should have started showing her dere side rather then there? Also, I legitimately believe there's a good chance she's Apollo, so her not being able to hold back her affections would make perfect sense if that ends up being the case.
>>288664879>write a mono story>add a bunch of underdeveloped orbiters for retarded haremcucks who are too stupid to realize they are being playedit's not really surprising.
>>288664804The fact that Yuu's so dense works in Sakura's favor here, since the sisters would otherwise have an insurmountable advantage over her just due to having so much more screentime.
>>288664879I dunno about that. I've only seen numbers like that from Mikarin and Mafuyu, who was in a league of her own. Even Yuna and Yae were both still extremely popular despite Asahi being the most popular heroine in the magazine.
>>288664886It only takes one pleasant surprise in the world of slop to be ruined forever checking out every dogshit manga...
>>288664454Depends, are you lonely or a loner?
>>288664892>You're not advocating for balance.Yes, I am, good tsunderes start mostly tsun and slowly turn increasingly dere, Nene by ch5 was already more dere than most tsunderes are at the end of their story and even what little tsun she had were just comedic relief moments instead of an integral part of her character, she's a failure of a character and her lack of popularity proves it
>>288664946This CPR one is especially bad because it seems to be priding itself on hitting every garbage slopcom trope>angry dad>gloomy loner who transform with a part>busy twins who fall headover heels for MC-kun's alterego>the 'I GOTTA HIDE' moments
>>288660769>>288660860>>288660852Jesus Christ guys. Calm down, those are just a few seconds of flashbacks of when they were younger. And those are right on the first few chapters/episodes. It's not brought back frequently like the image implies.Put into context, they present Yukiya's insecurity and fear of some other guy getting to Miku first. A perfectly valid worry for an insecure kid. He mans up considerably compared to his younger self.>>288660947>even after he gets the girlAll of those panels in the picture are from before he gets the girl (I think).
>>288664580I like Nanamura and I'm going to be sad when he inevitably becomes a normalnigger
>>288665035Thankfully I don't think it'll be as drastic as a change nor as sudden as Tomozaki
>>288665017Everything you've just said makes me believe that you're completely full of shit. I now regret having tried to engage with you at all.
>>288664580He kinda has the face of someone who's weird looking in highschool but will age like wine.
>>288665143His floofy hair is going to kill a lot of ladies later in life mark my fuckin words
>>288665032Fair enough. I was taking that anon at his word. Maybe it's not so bad as it looks. That said, I've still heard a lot more negative things about the manga than positive ones so I don't see myself reading it any time soon.
>>288665141Concession accepted
>>288660769I don't read that manga but that looks like something straight up out of an NTR doujin, like next page should be the girl getting fucked by another dude andC thinking how he can't make her cum like that
>>288665366You can have it. No sense arguing with someone who's blatantly dishonest.
See you knowers in the Imasara thread soon and to the rest of you, i look forward to next month when a romcom thread manages to survive past 30 posts
>>288665412It's a aad thing how you can't handle the truth
>>288665628>Nene by ch5 was already more dere than most tsunderes are at the end of their storyNothing about this is true.
>>288665699Sure
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>>288666037As previously stated here >>288665017>what little tsun she had were just comedic relief moments instead of an integral part of her character
