Dumping
>>288654139
What's the point of dumping in ragheadish???
>>288654173skill issue
Man, how long has it even been since the last chapter? This pace is like Miura never died ;_;
>>288654190Why do they keep doing this effect
>>288654173Someone asked in another thread
>>288654177Must suck to still have that cuff chafing his wrist
>>288654259Uhh, so who's this then?
>>288654287Oh hey, it's that kid Guts killd by accident
Wowzers an entire chapter of flashback panels!
>>288654267Debiruman reference
>>288654279Big burning mommy
>>288654287NOBODY EXPECTS MOZGUS' INQUISITION
>>288654287The way this is composed, it looks like Crocus is resting his feet on Guts or maybe kicking him
>>288654332The old lady who raised Schierke, who was probably one of the four elemental kings incarnated.
>>288654332Shirke's teacher
>>288654455we all know who's missing
>>288654479>>288654487And why is she inside a Kushan clam?
Sorry I tabbed out of 4chan and didnt notice it stopped pages are slightly out of order this is after >>288654455
>>288654455Who is bottom right?
>>288654472What's all this black stuff?
This is after >>288654511
>>288654514Gambino's woman who took care of Guts until she died, she was addled in the head
>>288654287>>288654455
>>288654526
>>288654511>>288654526Wait what the fuck, Guts was a Moonboy -tier stillbirth that somehow got unfucked?
>>288654501It's an introspective journey and she resides deep within the astral realm as a 'daimon' now.
>>288654569
>>288654581
End https://3asq.org/manga/berserk/384/
>>288654593Oh is widdle babby going to cwy? Go ahead, cwy! Griffith's fucking yer girl and you're just lying there and letting it happen you bum
>>288654287>bonfire of dreamsCool. Even if it's a tiny panel.
>>288654620Now I have finally become Fire Punch
>>288654620Thx for dump, at least something happened this time.
>>288654663I'd argue even less happened this time than the last two times... unless there's some amazing dialogue hidden behind the Kushan script, but I doubt that.
>>288654332The Idea of Love
>>288654620I don't get the imagery on this panel as a closing point to this chapter. Guts and Griffith being two sides of the same coin does not really seem like the concludion of the previous pages. Griffith was barely in them.
>>288654620MOON CHILDOHHO OH OYOU HAVE THE POWERTO BE HIS FRIEND
>>288654173All the dialogue is fanfiction anyways.
>>288654620Kino visual, I fully believe that the eye and arm out of panel are restored now. Guts has gone through an alchemical purifying process contrasting Griffith's transformation by the Idea of Evil.
>>288654658>How will Guts defeat Griffith/The Godhand/Idea of Evil?>Just punch harder my dude Now this is kino
Where is Donovan?Donovanbros, we must not tolerate this historical revisionism
>>288654620BUT WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN????I feel like some serious plot shit is being revealed
>another chapter where nothing happened>will have to wait another year for a 20-24 page chapter that just reuses panels we’ve seen before
i haven't touched it since Miura died, should i bother or just wait until it "ends"?
>>288654724there are some comparisons being drawn with Guts's origin and Moon Boy/Griffith I think. It appears Guts himself might be somewhat "supernatural", having been born from the dead?
>>288654925If you have to ask then no, you shouldn't.
>>288654546>>288654546>>288654546
>>288654620Gatsu... LIVE
>>288654926Lost Children arc is about to become relevant again! Guts is a fairy changeling or some shit
>>288654926I thought people already knew this.
>>288654687He met Flora, his whole introspective journey is over already and he appears to be waking up, and I think the text is saying because he was born from a corpse he has always had one foot in the interstice (this is a retcon), and therefore he's the same kind of being as Griffith (this makes zero sense but it's certainly something. I don't think the interstice should even be a thing anymore after the worlds merged, and Griffith isn't a being of the interstice, he was turned into a vastly powerful fully astral being at the eclipse.)
>>288654620I am now berserk
>>288655001it feels like a sort of a training arc where guts learns how to "reach" griffith which so far has been impossible to him, due to Griffith residing on a plane of existence beyond him.
>>288655034There's realms deeper than the interstice and more shenanigans can happen the deeper you go. Guts having a mystique around having been born from a corpse has been hanging around for awhile. Pretty sure Skull Knight and Slan have alluded to some traits stemming from the nature of his being.
>>288655141>Guts having a mystique around having been born from a corpse has been hanging around for awhileReminiscent of the "As above, so below" concept, is it not?
>>288654620Actually good chapter
What are the non-retarded opinions about the series post Miura so far? Haven't read it yet.I am aware that Miura's art style can never be topped, but that aside I got pretty bored by the series since the ship arc. Having a new writer could go both ways, be more like old Berserk again (albeit without the 10/10 art) or trying and failing to do so due to a convoluted plot or bad pacing. The lack of shitty elves seems like a good thing I can't really make sense of the plot whenever I skim through a new chapter. Which might be my fault for not reading it yet though.
>>288654259>>288654273What are the bubbles saying here? I am too retarded to learn Arabic (if this is Arabic, but it's probably not Farsi).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0_f5fkrCTA
>>288654139Oh shit, about fucking time
See you in ayear when new chapter drops
>>288654581Mpreg Guts?
>>288654581I wonder what the black stuff means.
>>288655534Pros: no more fourth wall breaking references, Puck is drawn and behaves like he used to, the bizarre uguu design for Griffith reverts to a better earlier designThere's a sense that the fucking around is done since characters aren't doing gags.Cons: some funky art and ugly paneling, there are some moments that should have been a two page spread but aren't. Characters aren't talking all that much so it feels like any further development the side characters could get at this point would be stifled by virtue of the writing team not being confident enough to do things with them. Character arcs in general are probably fucked since they killed off someone they clearly didn't know what to do with.
>>288655034>this is a retconYou really thought Guts being born from a corpse would have no significance?
>>288655685Evil spirits? Dead souls? Just the local population of slimes?
>>288654593Lmao they forgot to draw his other hand, it just ends on a stumpAnd looking at that face, are you seriously telling me this isn't drawn by AI?
>>288655685could be the fact that he comes from nothingness/death. he's the black swordsman after all
>>288655685It's pretty clearly womb imagery of sperm impregnating an egg, symbolic of a merging of feminine and masculine energy. This is reinforced by Guts sort of time traveling back to beyond when he was conscious. The process Guts is going through is a group project, so aside from Flora the masculine aspect is likely from an unseen elemental king.
>>288655829>Lmao they forgot to draw his other hand, it just ends on a stumpwut?
>>288655829Here's your filthy (You), retard
>>288655371Only took them 6 months!
>>2886559539 months, actually.
>>288655745>You really thought Guts being born from a corpse would have no significance?Perhaps, but thing is, it never felt like it was really building to anything. Like it was just the first in the long list of edgy bs that was his life. And I don't think anyone really thought it meant anything deeper. The whole BORN FROM A CORPSE thing didn't mean someone knocked up a corpse as it did some mercenaries found a freshly hung pregnant woman.
>>288655978>9 months >Guts is baby being reborn KUBOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>288655991Huh, well maybe it was on purpose this time because they sure as hell didn't spend that time drawing well!
>>288654139>>288654145This cover it's so fucking bad lol and I'm not a hater. So bad it's funny.
Inshallah
>>288655603انظر "anzur - "lookلنفسك - lnfsk - "at yourself"
>>288656097Man I get language is a complex machine of ideas but I don't get how this is even legible.
>>288654259is that Flora?
>>288655987>Perhaps, but thing is, it never felt like it was really building to anything. Like it was just the first in the long list of edgy bs that was his life.All the edgy BS is part of the build up though. His struggle having reached such legendary proportions that he's no longer just a mere human being but more like an embodiment for the struggle of men against "fate/causality", is what's made him basically a supernatural force at this point.He is constantly referred to as "the struggler" again here and his uncommon birth was simply the beginning of it all.It doesn't necessarily imply that he's some sort of death lord or whatever because of it, but it just points out that from the very beginning he struggled against the odds and what should've been plausible.
>>288656111We call japanese moon runes for a reason. I don't know shit about arabic either, but it's probably easier to learn. Thing is, why would you want to
Bros?
>>288654511I know that's Guts but that fetus looks like Moonlight Boy fetus
>>288655978Welp, fuck.
>>288655685I think it refers to all Guts trauma
I feel a bit weird saying it, but this looks actually interesting. I should pick it up again after all.
>>288656065It's actually pretty neat.
>>288654607Chitch.... :(
>>288654259Guts:What's going on? (madha yajri?)Who are you? (min 'anti)
>>288656237Look forward to chapter 385 next year!
>>288656260Guts remembers her but not Donovan...
>>288655534Griffith looks better, more like his old selfthe story is now straightforward, for better or worse
we one piece now
>>288656560What a random thing to say
apparently we are getting two more chapters back to back. whenever the magazine comes out
>>288656462We're getting 3 chapters in a row actually
Griffith=IndraGuts=AsuraYou know it's gonna happen
>>288656622HUH?
>>288655534The story is noticeable more streamlined but so far it feels like it'd mostly what Miura was aiming towards
>>288654746you say that but all of this screams something miura would do, so i believe they do have notes
>>288654259bottom left panel"it is time, fighter""oh darkness, creature of the middle earth..."
>>288654926I think that is just symbolic.
Still no naked lolis though
Feel like a brainlet, had no idea people had theories about Guts being a supernatural entity. I always thought all the demonic imagery surrounding him was just metaphorical. I wouldn’t want Guts to abandon his humanity or use the behelit since it goes against his whole character
>>288656260>>288654607Holy shit I completely forgot about her.Damn that hit me bad
>>288657019Protip: reread Lost Children, the part about Red-eyed Peekaf especially.
>>288655987>>288655034>because he was born from a corpse he has always had one foot in the interstice (this is a retcon)>it never felt like it was really building to anything.This was established since they met Flora more or less. Years ago I already made that connection after I read Flora's chapters. Guts unnatural strength, resilience and regenerative capabilities can only be explained by him being connected with the interstice since birth which allowed his willpower to influence his physical being.
>>288654177He looks bogged
>>288654235Head proportions are fucked Man these guys are lost without Miura
>>288657019I think it's more like he's turning into one through the sheer weight of his feats, presumably like Skull Knight has.
>>288657019There have been schizo theories forever. Like him having pointed ears and spiky black hair because Zodd is his dad or something.
>>288654620>You are both born of causality>When you fought against him you became like himWtf does that even mean
>>288657247If you fight your enemies, they win
>>288657247I guess it could mean when you fought against his dream you forged your own dream?
>>288657265man, it's just like our world
>>288657247I suppose to fight him is to partake in some sort of "destined battle" or loop like what Void and Skull Knight are presumably engaged in.
>>288654256what will happen if the friend that conventionally heard the details of everything planned for the story also dies?
>You weren't destined to die in a pool of afterbirth>Those born from the womb of death can fight against fateIs this Flora hinting that she saved Guts from birth or some shit? I can't tell what's a literal translation and what the machine translation is adding
>>288657247When Guts began his quest for revenge, he found his own "dream" in the sense that Griffith describes to Princess Charlotte: a singular goal that he's willing to pursue at the expense of anything and everything, including himself and those he loves. And after he resolves to protect Casca instead, he begins to become a sort of leader that his entire party rallies behind. Instead of being just an unthinking sword for others to wield, he's been slowly growing into a leader. At least, that's what I think of it.
>>288657366Mori's a fitfag so he'll be fineProbably
>>288657366then the friend's friend who also conveniently heard all the details will take over
>>288657382>And after he resolves to protect Casca instead, he begins to become a sort of leader that his entire party rallies behindIt's kind of funny because reading the manga it seems like Guts is the "tank" and if anything Schierke is the "leader" who devises strategy and guides direction.
>>288657394This has already been foreshadowed with the mysterious editor Shimada-san
>>288656560Berserk had rape long before OP
>>288657169Kek
>>288657403That's true in how they fight as a team. But all of Guts's friends are travelling with him because of him for the most part.
>>288657403Leaders aren't necessarily the smartest in the room.
>>288657403Guts is that guy who is so good at what he does that he becomes the captain by default, but ultimately delegates most leadership duties to the people around him, who are better fit for those tasks.
>>288654332
>>288657374The way I read it is that by being born from someone who's already dead he's pretty much outside of "fate", kinda like in one of the final destination movies they try to force death to change the plan by making one of the people who survived their destined death have a baby
>>288657403Schierke is the strategist but she still follows Guts towards his goals
>>288657247Guts considered himself a pebble on the roadside for Griffith but asserting himself and opposing Griffith's faction has led him down a path of becoming a champion and symbol for humanity. Conviction gave us a preview of Guts being a figure to rally around, which he does wherever he goes, may it be the doomed people around the reincarnation ceremony, the noble's mansion being attacked by monsters, or the ship's crew counting on his strength. His current group with its wide variety and the respect and expectations of former enemies displays the wide umbrella Guts' influence has.
>>288657510false
>>288654145orbed
>>288657374>>288657568It could be metaphorical, where somebody who's been struggling against fate for basically his entire life, Guts, is able to resist the plans the Godhand has in store for him through the sheer force of his will.It's similar to how Guts killing so many apostles with the Dragonslayer gives him the power to cleave through Slan's physical form in Qliploth.
>>288657716Is he going to marry Farnie or not
>Gus in the fetal position screaming and reliving past traumaGay as fuck
>>288654139After translating and reading the chapter I'm left with more questions. Is this supposed to explain why Griffith couldn't sacrifice Guts because the latter isn't a real soul? This page >>288654607 translate into “your other half belongs to him” was it because Guts lost to Griffith and swore loyalty to him?
>>288657891Maybe the next chapters will explain things
>>288654570it's not like skull knight told us
Silat is 100% going to be the MVP that uses the Behelit right? It's even foreshadowed with the Behelit being separated from Guts just now and Silat becoming the Kushan Commander in the fight against Falconia
>>288658096Slowreaders, I kneel...
Why do people in Berserk threads pretend like Kouji Mori is some nobody who just showed up out of thin air?
>>288658236I don't give a fuck what the trolls on 4chan are doing
>>288655978>>288656209They are not publishing chapters as soon as they finish them. Young Animal for some reason is doing things like this, so we'll get 3 Berserk chapters in the next 3 magazine releases of Young Animal.
>>288654511>>288654526>>288654570>>288656200>>288658096Holy fucking shit, this is a massive reveal. Guts was born a demon child.>>288657891I think it has to do with Guts being a demon child like the moon boy. They were both born as a corrupt fetus, so they have a hidden connection.
>>288658236They cannot comprehend the thought of having a lifelong friend
>>288656642YOU ARE MY FRIEEEND
>>288658236Bet they don't know about Miura's other friends either, like Chica Umino
>>288658289Plot twist: Moonboy wasn't born fucked up because of the Eclipse or Femto rape, Guts' kid was always going to turn out this way?
>>288654145This is ridiculous
>>288658352Nah, it was fucked up because of the rape which made sure that Griffith and Guts are now truly one and another, two faces of the same coin. Escaping death since they were born. In case of Griffith, his 2nd reborn.
>Flora out of nowhereWasn't on my bingo card lads. Thought for sure it was going to be an introspective journey with the Beast of Darkness.
>>288658352That would be interesting, but I think >>288658385 is right.
>>288658332/a/ lowkey assumes every mangaka is a friendless loser and either an incel or in a loveless marriage with a spouse that's cheating on themor highkey when it comes to one piece threads
>>288656148Seems like it.
>>288658365bro is chillin
>>288658495But why? I thought Guts was supposed to be introspective, finally confront his inner demons and make peace with them, then emerge with control over the Beast of Darkness or some shit. Now magical gilf is just going to give him a shounen power-up?
>>288658448If anything, this chapter makes Griffith even more of a piece of shit than he already is. Even after becoming a God, he wasn’t content,he wanted to be reborn under the exact same conditions as Guts, escaping death just so his dream could also exist in the real world. His rebirth essentially made him a mirror of Guts, a struggler since his rebirth, but a struggler who cheated to get what he wanted without ever having to actually suffer.
>>288658524That should come later after this
>>288657986I hope so.>>288658289But Guts isn't mutated or disfigured like the moonbaby. Also when you say they are, are you talking about the moon baby and Guts or Griffith and Guts? I still don't believe the moon baby and Griffith are the same person theory.
>>288657891>“your other half belongs to him”Guts is an "in-between" being from being born from the dead, the normal part of him belongs to Griffith because of the sacrifice
>>288658897>But Guts isn't mutated or disfigured like the moonbaby.Please observe>>288654511>>288654526
>>288658897Nta but I think the connection with the moonchild here is that, like how Guts was born from a dead woman, the moonchild also was born from someone who was essentially already dead (or at least fated to die) so both of them where born even when they were supposed to die in the womb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_U7ZST3_FwRobbed of a mother's love at birthLeft to drown in bloodHe was to die beneath her corpseMeant to rot in a cesspit of despairBorn to die as a waste of airRaised as a child, one shorn of fateIn a fit of rage, he knows a violent destinyWill await only life by sword shall reignAnd he never to death be slain
>>288657891you can't sacrifice people that are already deadsince guts is on the boundary, griffith could only claim half of guts as "his" to sacrificeand thematically that's why guts was able to ditch griffith in the first place back before the eclipse. no amount of charisma nor loyalty could ever change that half of guts' heart and soul was beyond griffith's influence
>>288657366He said he already explained the whole story in general to studio gaga in case of that.
Great fanfiction chapter
>>288658236Skull Knight.net has been astroturfing for years
>>288659426Okay so why do THEY act like that then?
>>288658897>But Guts isn't mutated or disfigured like the moonbaby.See >>288658968.>I still don't believe the moon baby and Griffith are the same person theory.They literally share a body.
>>288658524>make peace with them, then emerge with control over the Beast of Darkness or some shit. Now magical gilf is just going to give him a shounen power-up?That is Naruto nigga
>>288659517The French admin got buck broken by Miura's death. He's crying about the reveal that Guts may not be human this very moment.
>whole point of Guts's character is that despite being the furthest thing from a special person or a "chosen one", he's able to make his mark on fate through his own drive and will>"actually guts is a special demon baby"Not the biggest fan of this new development. I don't think it's impossible to pull something like this off, but you'd have to be careful to remember to make Guts's feats throughout the manga feel earned by himself rather than because of his lineage.Please don't be another Nika-nika fruit....
>>288658236it’s the narrative of Mori coming in to save the day that gets hate.if it was just the studio announcing they’ll finish Berserk with notes Miura left them, newBerserk would have been much more well received.
>>288659732when you realize that he was born from death then those feats dont seem like much
>>288659583>He's crying about the reveal that Guts may not be human this very moment.because that’s the whole point of his fucking character
>>288659732>Muh human drive row row fight the powerOh come off it, this shit is even more unbelievable than chosen one story. We are all apart of the world whether the role is small or large, maturity is accepting that not forging your power through shear will power.
>>288659841guts has always been special even if you dont want to admit it
>>288659552Share a body is not the same as “they are one person split in half” that is what I meant.
>>288659732Guts’ strength is already supernatural, he can effortlessly swing the largest sword in the world and fight monsters like Zodd on equal ground. Thinking he’s just some run of the mill human is silly, if he was he wouldn’t get this far
>>288659980thank you this whole story shows guts was special
>>288659107>>288658926But how? Guts isn't a thing for Griffith to own. Guts claimed his freedom when he defeated Griffith in the duel. >>288658976But Guts isn't dead nor he is alive. He is stuck between the 2 states.
>>288659980>Thinking he’s just some run of the mill human is silly, if he was he wouldn’t get this farHuman struggling against fate is the whole theme of Berserk.Change that and it stops being Berserk.
>>288659936yes it is
HOLY SHIIIIIIITFUCK YEAH, GUTS IS THE CHOSEN ONE, FUCK YEAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I'm so fucking glad Miura died, we would have never gotten this kino with his boring ass still around
You guys are retarded and are completely misreading the chapter. No, Guts was not some special chosen one demon baby from the start.
>>288660045who said anything about chosen one
What did Flora mean by Calling Guts the child of darkness?
>>288659426For some reason that place turned into a hive of pure mental illness
>>288660103He was born under extremely grim circumstances and had a beyond terrible childhood and there's a lot of darkness and grimness inside him
>>288660122Wasn't Griffith also called child of darkness during his transformation in the eclipse? I could be wrong but it rings a bell
>>288660068Are you saying this is just symbolism?
>>288659789Do they? I don't think Guts was able to consciously control the circumstances of his birth.>>288659878I'm sorry anon, but if you don't like that kind of story then you're probably not gonna like Berserk all that much.
>>288659580It's Carl Jung my good man
I love how people discuss reveals and shit like it's not a fanfiction
>>288660106It’s a site solely dedicated to Berserk then the author died and you only get one chapter per year. I get why they’re eternally mad. I’m not a schizo that thinks Mori was never Miura’s friend or had conversations about the series together and shared notes but in the end it won’t be the true vision of Miura’s writing and art
>>288660035How? Sharing a body can be 2 souls in one body.
>>288659732You should've known Guts was special the moment he wielded the Dragonslayer. I'm so sick of this>noooo muh protagonist has to be a loser just like meeeeeeeee
Guts already has the Berserker ArmorThe same shit that transformed Skull KnightHe doesn't need a special dead demon birth to make him specialFUCK YOU MORI
>>288660311Well maybe he shouldn't have had a special demon birth under Miura's writing then >>288658096
>>288659980He's able to do these things because of what he's been through during his life. He was taught to swing an adult's sword he could barely lug around at the age of six and has lived his entire life in extreme situations that forced him to become the strongest he can just to survive. His entire life has revolved around combat and swinging his sword, to the point where when he tries to go out and find his own dream back in Golden Age, he returns empty-handed because he can't imagine a future for himself beyond just fighting and killing.
>>288660292You think I want to self-insert as Guts, anon?
what a fucking liar
>>288660269>I loveNo you don't, you're seething like mad.
>we're now officially redditt-thanks, mori
>>288660329That was a figure of speechSkull Knight didn't mean Guts was a literal death demon baby
>>288660329Death of the Author
>>288660521>You are closer to death than anyone in this world, thus you can escape it>Don't take this literally my dude, it's just a jest
>>288660167I mean, probably? I think something people have forgotten ITT is that the reason Guts was able to come back from being a stillborn baby in the first place was because of Shisu's love for him. There wasn't any grand cosmic bullshit that allowed him to be born from death, it was the love from Shisu that was able to let him live.
>People just now realize Guts was the chosen one, despite him being able to swing a heavy as fuck swordFinally awake, retards
>>288659354But what if everyone in studio gaga dies?
>>288660488At no point in all the 20 years I've been reading Berserk have I once thought that "wow, I sure love Guts because he isn't special", what the fuck nigga he kills giant monsters with a sword too heavy for anyone to use he's not a normal person no matter how you slice itAlso his ears are suspiciously pointy
>>288654259old berserk would have shown pussy
>>288654287>>288654546
>>288660610some people really bought "well he learned to fight with a longsword as a scrawny kid and that just scaled up exponentially as he got taller"
>>288660033That is still the essence of the whole born from death though. His will to live, his struggle not to die made him a special person even as a newly born infant. The only thing it changes it doesn't change anything, it's been established since Flora is that the in lore reason for why other people can't just keep getting up after taking lethal damage is now officialy explained.
>>288660629and his best friend is a fairy
>guts can't be human because his sword is really heavy>it's just not realistic>in the setting with elves and dragons
>>288660488>relating to guts What does this even mean? I like Guts because it’s basically him against the world, I find his story tragic and want him to achieve a semblance of happiness. How can someone even possibly relate to the sheer amount of suffering Guts has endured. Normalfags who go "bro I relate so much to Guts because I suffered as well, my gf broke up with me” are so fucking gay
>>288660438many such cases in shounen
>>288657247Berserk is now kingdom hearts
>>288660570>You are closer to death than anyone in this world, thus you can escape itBecause of how the interstice works. The closer you are to it the more your will/soul can affect the real world.
>>288655829Did you read the manga?
>>288660746Guts and Griffith are both Xenahort
>>288660723>in the setting with elves and dragonsSo Guts can be an inhuman gotcha thanks : )
>>288654139So he's a cabbage now...
>>288660847Guts can be a Ford F-150, it doesn't make the story better.
>>288660754because all things are emmanations of god and the closer you metaphysically get to the godhead the more godlike you are. godhand isn't just a name, they are literally the fingers of the left hand of god. and the idea of evil is the beating heart of god as you need an idea of evil to have good deeds and bad
>>288660897Bitch and moan moar retarded seething faggot
>>288660924Nice argument.
I don't think his birth gave him any powers, it's just classic magic loophole stuff>sons of man must obey causality>Guts was born from death so it doesn't count and fate has no power over him
Guts being cleansed from the mark is fine but making his birth some sort of big discovery is silly and his strength from the Berserker armor is more than enough.
>>288660951Like there was anything to debate when self owned yourself smooth brained retard
>>288658096See I think most, sane, people just took this as being operatic.
If this development if truly from Miura's notes, I won't be upset. But it does put the series in a new perspective, like, Guts had the option to just walk away from this bullshit from the start. I can imagine Miura feeling this way after his personal growth.
>>288660690Yeah it's this.This chapter doesn't make Guts any more or less special than how he already was
>>288661007Yeah this is some Witch King or Macbeth shit.
>>288661060Walk where? The eclipse still would have happened if he'd never met Griffith
>>288661097Not his problem, just walk away.
>>288661016People have been wanting some sort of Idea of Good since Idea of Evil was revealed.
>>288661121Well that's dumb. Good is the natural state. It was evil that needed to be invented.
>>288661120>Not his problemIt would be eventually
I do hope his arm and eye got healed from whatever this was. Guts being able to fight again is more important to me than him being born from a corpse
>>288661158Nope, he's not related to causality and it's bullshit Griffith wank.
>>288661141nothing points towards good being natural state though?
>>288661079>Mthcbeth
>>288661120nowhere in the world is safe from Demon King Griffith
despite arabic being my mother tongue i usually don't read mangas in it, did i understand that guts is 50% from the astral plane like griffith?man it's so fucked i haven't read the manga in so long i legit forgot most of the plot i need to reread all of it
So they're unironically soulmates.
the art is horrible
>>288661060how did you come to this conclusion?the first hald of the chapter is just guts blaming himself for everything, it reads more as him being overly harsh towards himself when most of those things weren't really his fault
>>288657725That's an interesting take, I like it
>>288659732From what I've translated I don't think it's saying he's a magic demon babe. Flora is saying he was born having already escaped death (you were born from a womb of death) and this exists outside causality. Skull Knight said the same shit to him. I think the "Because you chose to fight him you became like him" line is saying that Guts choosing to pursue his own dream after he left the Hawks is what led him down a parallel path to Griffith.
>>288657891>“your other half belongs to him”Bro Griffith literally sacrificed him
>>288659517Mental illness.
>it’s a recap chapter
>>288654581>>288654581>>288654593>>288654607>>288654620Congrats Guts, you now have to kill your only son to beat Femto
>Still no ScanlationThe Berserk fandom has gotten lazy
So this is just Guts tripping on DMT.
>>288654593Should've ended alongside Miura. What the fuck even is this?
>>288662220why have you not mastered god's tongue yet?
>>288662313I don't want to learn Japanese
>>288662255>Gatsu, have you ever used a sensory deprivation tank?
>>288654145*record scratch**freeze frame*Yup that's me. You're probably wondering how I got myself in this mess.
I'm thankful we even get an ending, but man, the art is just so stiff and lifeless
>>288660311I don't know, it's a good reveal to me.
>>288654620I liked the chapter.
The Astral World and its consequences have been a disaster for Berserk's story.
>>288657374>>Those born from the womb of death can fight against fateHe was never meant to exist as his mother already dead therefore he can fight fate itself as his mere existence is outside of fate. This has been referenced multiple time that guts shouldn't exist to begin with, Griffith was supposed to activate the behelith during the fight with Zodd or somewhere during the final battle for Midland, but guts presences delayed it that much that he almost achieved his dream without ever using it.
>>288656560Kinda disappointing that Guts turns out to be the super special chosen messiah true hawk of light instead of a struggling miserable human being.
>>288659732I want a happy ending for Berserk. This shit is too depressing.
>>288662220Didn't evil genius vanish into thin air?
>>288654926Just look at his ears and hair. I won't be surprised if it's revealed that guts was zodd's bastard son.
>>288662916Guts slicing Griffith into pieces?
>>288654620ENTER
>>288655034>I think the text is saying because he was born from a corpse he has always had one foot in the interstice (this is a retcon)What retcon? Skull knight has noticed it during his interaction with him in old chapters. It was heavily implied that guts unnatural birth is the reason for his suffering and resilience as he exist outside of fate. I mean, dude can see fairies where others usually cannot.
turns out Guts was a gay rattlesnake called Fabio Enchillada all along
>>288654455Fantastic page.
>>288663054>I mean, dude can see fairies where others usually cannot.Wasn't that something added later in the Conviction arc? Nobody had any trouble seeing Puck during the Black Swordsman arc. Hell, his first appearance was a group of thugs trying to cut him open with their throwing knives.
Fuck you Miura why did you have to die you fucking faggot ;_;
>>288654190the head just looks stupid
>>288663167Miura said Guts defeating Griffith would be like a character defeating his author, so I just take his death as foreshadowing
>>288654581>>288654593kek, these pages look like Guts is about to give birth
>>288654620>>288654216>That griffithDamn, I think one of the few good things about Mori chapters is that Griffith actually looks like a man again. The way miura drew Griffith in his last panel was super weird. Its like he is drawing those 1940's-1960's pin up cartoons with that dick sucking lips and super feminine face.
>>288663131In the first chapters we also have crosses and not the symbol of the Holy See, so, yeah, not everthing was already in Miura's head.
What does this mean, will Guts acknowledge that he is a father?
>>288657019I think he is slowly becoming the avatar of the indomitable human spirit. Everyone he come across either die or become a better version of themselves, even Griffith changed for the better when he met guts (we all know how it ends but he almost died to save guts).
>>288660106they were always insane.
>>288657019I'm pretty sure the demonic imagery is classic japanese trope of demon=cool=good and angel=gay=bad. They love their half demon warriors, I didnt even knew where they got it from, probably devilman or something.
>>288663405Idea of Good
>>288655603 I use google image search to frame the dialogue bubble and it translates it for me.
>>288654139I TURNED MYSELF INTO A SALAD GRIFFITH
>>288657848He will probably die at this rate
Guts will become the idea of good
>>288662302Vague ideas Miura hadn't finished.
>>288657153His regenerative abilities can be attributed to Puck desu. How he hasn’t died throughout his life can only be explained by fate/casuality though
>>288658551>without ever having to actually suffer.I think being crippled, skinned alive and castrated already counts as suffering.
>>288663536Or a vessel to wield it's power within reality, or rpg gang will become something like a good god hand to oppose the evil one.
>>288663634Yeah but he never overcame that. In order to overcome his own suffering he sacrificed others that had nothing to do with it. Just to obtain god powers.
Is it just me or the art was much better in Duranki?
>>288658388If the beast of darkness doesn’t spaz out and murder her in the next chapter I’m gonna be pissed
The art looks a lot better this chapter
>>288654287I never got why Guts has such fond memories of Corkus when every interaction they had was Corky being a belligerent asshole to him
>>288659841He is still human the same way space marines or master chief are human.
>>288663720What constantly bathing in demon/monster/ghost blood does to a motherfucker
>>288663638>or rpg gang will become something like a good god hand to oppose the evil one.Maybe the real Godhand was the friends we (Guts) made along the way
>>288654620IT IS I, GRIFFUTS
>>288663761either that or Guts would be able to wield the power of the idea of good from the immaterium and be able to hurt the god hand and send them back to the void.
>>288660045Retarded shitskin speedreader, nothing in the chapter mention him being the chosen one. He survive still birth by sheer will, he is NOT the chosen one, he is the one who choose for himself. That's his only specialty, he has too much willpower that he can deny fate itself.
>>288657848yeah I think so, he's a good man and Farnese deserves someone like himpoor Serpico btw
>>288663831Serpico has Morda
>>288659732like always the average reader here has 0 reading comprehension like you
I hope we see Casca again soonIt feels like there was a whole plotline with her and the prostitutes in Falconia that was being set up by Miura, but I doubt we will see it through
>>288660167Could just be the way he views himself given how fucked his life has been. And now that he knows Griffith and the moonlight boy/demon fetus are the same thing, he is seeing a reflection of Griffith in himself. I think this is going to lead to him forgiving Griffith, but I hope the beast of darkness says nah fuck that and makes him Berk out
>>288660488Its funny how niggers really think guts isn't special when he wield a 200lbs sword like nothing and still moves like a ninja, did you guys forget about how guts can climb a window fast enough that the conviction tower guard thought he was just a wind while carrying a sword taller than himself?
>>288663980Griffith this, Griffith that, Griffith died all there is today is Femto and Guts child.
>>288660488I hate plebbit, normalfags and casuals like you wouldn't even believe
pointless fucking shit ass thread
>>288661188I don't think the arm and eye will ever go back as they are already sacrificed.
>>288663282>In the first chapters we also have crossesDo we? I only remember crosses on the prototype chapters.
>>288663536There is no idea of "good". The magic system has already been explained. The friendly "dieties" are the 4 Kings.
>>288663536I doubt something that retarded would happened but I've speculated that Guts's struggle against fate will somehow end up driving people away from the idea of fate and evil as inevitable things and that will make the IoE either fade or at least weaken
>>288663620I think it's the opposite, fate keep trying to kill him but he somehow always finds way. That's the only thing his demon birth give him, being outside of fate's control. Somehow the retards here keep equating that to him being the chosen one.
>griffith...im already a demonkek
>>288664240>being outside of fate's control.Yeah, this has always been alluded to. I think people just want to meme or they're actually illiterate.
>>288654705>Why do good things happen to bad people? Me
>>288664240Yeah I’m not getting chosen one vibes. You could be right, both explanations make sense. Hopefully they continue this storyline in the next chapter instead of jumping to another character
>>288662906this is how it is now, can't have normal people doing extraordinary things, everything has to be magic bullshit no matter what
>>288660610>>288664000retards. what about pippin, general boscogn and samson? they could all wield guts' sword. are they special ? retards the lot of yas
>>288654607>>288654620So Guts is a Paladin now or something? Or the GodFoot?
>>288664419when the hell did they ever wield the dragonslayer
>>288664687hypothetically they could due to their immense strength
this just confirms that guts is going to use the egg
>>288657247>When you fought against him you became like him
>>288654620What the FUCK is going on?
>>288664905Guts is gay now.
>>288654139Okay so for what I've understood Phantom = astral body with no physical body anymore, he had it all but sacrifice his physical for a more powerfull astral body, grifith was the other half of guts meaning one was physical and the other spiritual Every regular person = body and soulGuts = body with no soul? or soul atached to the intertice?His soul merge with his physical body allowing him to exert force into the spiritual realm or at least to being able to experience the astral realm or at least being drown to it by shirke?? looks like Guts will fight in the astral realm where he can defeat phanto most likely in a "fair fight"
Chapter ruined a large amount of what makes Guts who he is. Making him a demon instead of a human fucks things that I like about him
>>288654620YOU ARE MY SPECIAL
>>288665029he's not a demon
>>288654620
Why hasn't it been explained how goatfuckers got this before Japanese raws?
>>288665029Guts is a human alwas werehis other "half" is his spirit who was traped in the interstice and never born when he were inside that oyster he was forced to see himself, meaning his "full self" wich he wasn't able ot see beforehis spirit was born as a human baby, just like him, he only detached to the interstice and was born in the physical realm and merged with guts basicaly he was given his soul back
>>288654620>indomitable human spirit? Fuck that>YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE ALL ALONG GUTS, BECOME SUPER SAIYAN AND GO KILL GRIFFITH
>>288665100So what does this all mean? Massive Guts power up? Finally the ability to lay hands on Griffith?
>>288665144Probably. Guts would never be able to defeat Griffith without some asspull powerup.
>>288665144to be fair looks like it hahahaha sadly seems like he will be able to meet grifith in the interstice where he is vulnerable something like reaching obito's realm in fighting you know? just like flora and grifith are astral beings so is guts now so they can interact now
Im gonna die of old age before this gets finished.See you guys in 8 to 10 months, i guess.
>>288654145>>288654139>tfw you finally accept miura's last chapter wasn't the real final chapter and you're going to be reading this for eternitythis is the real eclipse
>>288657453This is the chapter miura agonized two decades over?
>Retards malding over half legible durkaspeakCan't you niggers wait?
>>2886651852 weeks new chapter and 4 weeks another one they already confirmed that
>>288654724Guts' related to Skull Knight's "female Griffith" maybe?
WHERE IS THE JAPANESE VERSIONWHY IS IT IN ARABICANSWERS NOW
Fanfiction shit
Will guts need to mature his soul to face grifith as in a time skip? because his astral form was born into him again for hwat I've understood so his soul is weak
>>288665228presented in glorious kushan runes for maximum immersion and historic authenticity
Inshallah OP. Thanks for the couscous.
>>288663851they've met?
>>288665239for sure is but it is the best chapter they dropped since his death
>>288665321A man can ship you know
I've heard a variation of the "Guts has always been walking in the interstice, ever since he survived as a fetus!" take my entire time reading Berserk, I never thought Mori would read it on social media; go ahead and make it canon. My question is if it's meant to be literal: a) He's actually always been in the interstice. (If so... What does that change exactly? Why wouldn't Skull Knight mention it? Did Flora always know ever since they met?) or b) It's something more lax like "Well... Guts, you're a survivor! You've always been a survivor, ever since you were a baby! You can totally PWN those demons!"Either way, disastrous for the foundations of the series. Now he can beat the Griffith because he's aware he's a special person. :) Disgusting message, destructive.
>>288665407>I've heard a variation of the "Guts has always been walking in the interstice, ever since he survived as a fetus!" take my entire time reading Berserk, I never thought Mori would read it on social media; go ahead and make it canon. My question is if it's meant to be literal: a) He's actually always been in the interstice. (If so... What does that change exactly? Why wouldn't Skull Knight mention it? Did Flora always know ever since they met?) or b) It's something more lax like "Well... Guts, you're a survivor! You've always been a survivor, ever since you were a baby! You can totally PWN those demons!"It's just a variation of "Guts is special because of his birth". The most common version over the year has been "he was born outside of fate". Needless to say, this is fundamentally wrong and goes directly against everything Miura established in the series.We know exactly when, how and why Guts is in the Interstice. It's because he was branded during the Eclipse. It's explained and detailed at length. It's also reiterated countless times that he's just a regular human who achieves greatness through sheer willpower, relentless effort and grit. This is all Berserk 101 and even the least attentive reader should be able to pick up. But apparently that's too much to ask of Mori...>Either way, disastrous for the foundations of the series. Now he can beat the Griffith because he's aware he's a special person. :) Disgusting message, destructive.Yep, this is exactly what they're going for. Now that he's been "reborn" with the knowledge that he's special and has always been special from birth, he can do it. It's mind-bogglingly stupid. Honestly it's hard to believe the Continuation team isn't intentionally trying to sabotage the series.
Guts = McDuffGriffith = McBeth
>>288665407>Why wouldn't Skull Knight mention it?He did >>288658096
>>288665432>So is Mori just straight up lying when he says that he "heard it dozens of times", or is it the kind of thing that Miura would've fleshed out a lot more?It's impossible for this to be what Miura had in mind. It goes against everything he's ever established about the series. I think it's possible he told Mori that Guts would go through a serious crisis of confidence, but that's about it. The things they're depicting in this episode are fundamentally incompatible with Miura's Berserk.
>>288665469Where to begin? Maybe with the positives: Guts hasn't fallen on his face this time. The art is also solid compared to their other continuation episodes, but, as always, art is secondary, especially when everything around it is disastrous.Unfortunately, my earlier prediction about this episode turned out to be right, at least conceptually. Guts confronted himself and emerged enlightened, the latter both in the literal sense, as Guts is depicted in his astral form on the last page on par with Griffith, and metaphorically, as he is now alluded to be the "special one": a baby born with a special "fate" (whatever that translates to), which he is now aware of. But we’ll get to that later. I was also right about the cheesy good-and-bad-times montage, and kind of right about him finding his lost spirit down there. Walter rightfully asked why this whole reignition was necessary, since Guts had already found his motivation once before - but here we are.What I hadn’t predicted was the appearance of Flora, and honestly, who could have? It makes absolutely no sense to me why she is there. She acts like the prophet of fate-bestowers, leading Guts through his rebirth process. Rebirth, you ask? Yes. Flora gives Guts a big speech about how he was born from “within death” and, as such, is a child of the interstice. We then presumably see baby Guts lying in front of his mother’s corpse, but the baby is depicted as a demon baby, in the same way Guts and Casca’s child was. That interstice baby Guts then descends into the clam and merges with Guts, after which he is reborn, also in a literal sense, as he cries, screams, and wiggles like a baby. We then get a final page of Guts and Griffith standing next to each other in astral form, with the words of, I believe, Flora stating that Griffith and Guts are the same, pretty much two sides of the same coin, which is insane.
>>288665448interesting parallel
>>288665508The way this whole ludicrous process is depicted is taken straight from Griffith’s Eclipse process, which is why it can sometimes evoke traces of Miura, but there is really none. If you squint your eyes really hard and don’t give a single shit, you can replace the tornado with the Stupa, the Idea of Evil with Flora, Griffith’s black shell with Guts’ clam, and demon baby Guts merging with Guts with evil flourishing through Griffith, after which he returns to the physical world. It may also be interesting, in retrospect, to view the look Guts gives the others before the Stupa closes as a parallel to Griffith’s final look through the palm of the hand.The fatal blow this deals is obvious: they have undermined, yet again, the central building block of Berserk: Guts is not ordained by causality. He is not the special one. He is not the chosen one. He is simply and purely human, as he himself puts it. His fight is driven by sheer willpower and by his own strength alone. That is the motif of Berserk, and I think we can all agree that this is what makes us like Guts so much.This process, however, completely and utterly undermines all of that. He is no longer a regular human. No, instead, he has been special since birth, and now he has received his transformative fate-bestower pep talk. This feeds right into the "Guts was born outside of fate" trash theories. God only knows where they go from here. I would be devastated had they not been desecrating Berserk for a long time now, but hey, we have already seen Guts longing for his angel of death, so this really was not that big of a leap.As I already said in the chat: I will not take anything Mori spouts out of his mouth seriously anymore. There is no way Miura pondered this for twenty years. Not a chance. Once again, it feels like a disgusting safety net: "See, that’s what Miura wanted. If you don’t like it, that’s on him."
>>288654620Gatsu forma Griffisu
>>288665469>It's impossible for this to be what Miura had in mind. It goes against everything he's ever established about the series.Is it tho? I mean, didn't he do it already with cutting the Idea of Evil and introducing the Astral World?
>>288665535>in the chatWhat? Are you hallucinating a chat window while you're typing out all your schizo babble?
>>288665566>Is it tho? I mean, didn't he do it already with cutting the Idea of Evil and introducing the Astral World?No. Removing the Idea of Evil chapter doesn't change or contradict any events or previously established lore. It retcons nothing aside from the contents of the chapter being removed.Astral World lies perfectly withing the stablished lore also. It was obviously thought out from the beginning
>>288665535I don't know man, I want to believe that our understanding of it is wrong I think guts was only incomplete, not like the other humans his soul was detached from his physical body, now it is merged like any other person is he was capped before but now is complete
>>288654287Corkserkbros...
>>288665535Guts has always ALWAYS been retardedly, superhumanly strong, resilient and unbreakably willed. Even before he gets (and survives and uses) the Armor. He wrecks the most powerful and experienced normal human warriors like they are a joke, slays sea gods and breaks no sweat.
>>288665745>his soul was detached from his physical body, now it is merged like any other person isBut the point is you can't be any person to defeat Griffith. Guts is special snowflake by the birthright, now he just remembered it
>>288665725I noticed that too.Quick search later, and anon copied this exact post.https://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?threads/episode-384.16814/post-275555
>>288665092This has been proven true in recent times. Everyone hates Israel now.
>>288665791It would be totally implausible for Normal Human Guts to even beat Griffith's chief Apostles, let alone God of Evil Griffith who vanquishes 1000' super-Apostles.
>>288665789>He wrecks the most powerful and experienced normal human warriors like they are a jokeHe needed help to defeat Boscogne... Or was he a fate chosen special boy too?>slays sea godsThat was in the armor
>>288665535>He is simply and purely human, as he himself puts it.Guts isn't a reliable source, that's circular logic.
>>288665566what are you talking about? the idea is within a deeper layer, it wasn't removed, the chapter was removed because he felt like it showed too much too soon, you can see some of the same stuff of the removed chapter in the discussion with floramori and gaga have zero grasp on the world and its characters which is just absolutely shocking to me, like how do you work so long with someone and do not understand the most basic fucking things...
>>288665862Boscogne was literally the strongest human knight in the kingdoms, and Guts fought him toe-to-toe as a young rookie.
>>288665897>you can see some of the same stuff of the removed chapter in the discussion with floraCan you give me a panel or chapter number for that, because I legit don't remember the Idea of Evil being referenced or hinted at.
>>288665905>as a young rookieNow you are just coping. He was super experienced by that point and in his peak physical form
>>288665791I don't know for me the power of the isolation chamber was for you to meet yourself fully, most people lost it in the process thats why it was a punishment guts already faced himself so many times the only thing left was for him to know the truth about himself wich he hans't had acces tothe power of the chamber was unironicaly good instead of evil, a coincidence or pure luck but for me guts simply stop being capped and became a whole person
Maybe...tge message here is that while Guts was special from birth, that... all that potential doesnt mean a damn thing if you dont work hard to make the most of it like Guts by taking shitty shortcuts like Griffith that compromise your values and sacrifice those you love.
>>288665791actualy I believe that this was the reason why he couldn't deal damage to grifith
>japanese manga protagonist turns out to have always been specialoh wow never seen that before
>>288665969it's hinted at multiple times, skully does it as well202, this is flora talking about it, miura even does the little droplets thing for the drawing
>>288666082>Yes, he was special, but he STILL had to work hardLMAO. This is "my father gave small loan of 1kk dollars" tier
Guts is special thanks to his poeticesque birth from a corpse and being bathed in demonic blood for years plus his overall physical prowess, I think it's fair that he wields some sort of powerup, not like a chosen one bullshit but at least something to fight the godhand
>>288666144Thanks! Guess it's time for a re-read
>He din't remember donnyI'm devastated no disgusted by Mori and Gaga.
>>288665813kek what the fuck. What is wrong with forum users?
>>288666299Casca healed his Donovan and Gambino issues
>>288654287Finally, a double spread again.
>>288654231Holy shit Guts has some huge fucking feet.What are those, size 18?
>>288654593T-thanks Berserk.
>>288666314that should have been ME with Guts
>>288666527Griffith...
family reunion when?
I want either Guts or SK to skin Zodd alive
>>288666642zodd is based and it would be much cooler if he teamed up with those two
Am I the only one thinking that Guts was always destined to become a Hellhound? He isn't destined to defeat Griffith, but rather he becomes another Skull Knight in the form of a Hellhound that is trapped in eternal combat.
no way, no fucking way, it's some deviantart fanfic, both in drawing and history.
>>288666299Our hero will return. Trust the plan.
I have a theory.I think Mori is just a very petty and jealous little man. Him and Miura have been rivals and he knows he lost by a landslide.So what does he do? Destroy Berserk and Miuras legacy by undermining the core principles within it with the dumbest shit you can find online from absolute braindead retards.Previously I thought Mori was the retard. Although I suppose both can be true.
>>288666927if he wanted to destroy it, he could have just left it where miura did
>>288666927You're projecting hard.
>>288654145>get me outta this wack ass crystal prison yo
>>288665535SK fags are unhinged
>>288665813That entire forum is a mentally ill circlejerk
Mori was the Idea of Evil all along?
>>288666974I wish he had.>>288667037It's okay, Mori-kun. One day you might make something that isn't total AIDS.
Why are people more pissy about the chapter now? A few hours ago it seemed like most everyone was fine with it
>>288667287because the chapter was cofusing as fuck but now that we're figuring it out we're finding out it is a pille of garbage
>>288666348thats what i told your mom last night
Re-reading it looks like Guts was born just like the moonlight kid a creature that just like Grifith can travel through the vails of the world tree, that can come and go throught the astral realm
>>288666771No, apostle fags deserve the rope, and if it wasn't for that furry bastard SK would have saved Casca and Guts sooner.
>>288667582guts also would have probably died if zodd didnt toss him his sword
>>288667287Because that's the brainlet troupe. They actually follow and look forward to this fanfiction tier nonesense so you get more positivity before people with a functioning brain trickle in.
>>288667549So it looks like Guts can do miracles just like Grifith as well, looks like he became an equal, meaning probably Guts can touch Grifith now, but he still needs to find a way to fight him 1on1
>>288667595The chapter was confusing as fuck brotoo many shit to unravel and that no one understood
>>288667593Death would have been a better unironically.
>>288667287its a great chapter the best chapter since miura death that felt like a berserk chapter even if they had notes i do believe they did for this its still fanfiction this changes a lot
>>288659980There are too many readers of Berserk who actually believe a real person can swing a however many ton 10 foot long iron slab of a sword and cut a horse in half horizontally with one swing for real irl.I hate these idiots.>He's able to do that because he worke don it his whole lifeRetards.
>>288659841He's half faggot-ass monster, apparently.
>>288667763would have loved to see miura build up to this chapter to see his vision because clearly he was laying down the paths for it him removing the idea of evil chapter this chapter changes a lot of things
Guts reminds me of Heracles, swinging that giant slab of iron like the latter did with his club, how much did they unjustly had suffer
english scans when?
>>288659980It's an anime you dolt, regular humans do crazy stuff all the time. E.g. Boscone is op and explodes warriors with a lower power level all around him, the Tapasa can crush armor and deflect arrows with their fists.Guts being able to wield large swords as a human makes sense within the logic of the universe he's in.
can't wait for the demon tournament arc, where Guts learn demon hasengan, after release his demon nen.
>>288663708Corkus was always honestand specifically called him out on his bullshit moping phase when he first left the HawksWhich Guts respected
>>288667981
>>288654620Ok, he's Griffith's equal but what about the Godhand? They're on a completely different plane of existence (the Astral Plane), do we know if a "creature from the Interstice" is able to damage them or not? I don't think so.A Berserk ending with Griffith dead but the rest of the Godhand still breathing would be a bitter ending ngl.
>>288668038The god hand manifested itself in the plain of reality once the rapture was created, remember those spreads each one themed by a memeber of the godhand, thy're somewhere out there
>>288668038>in the end the godhand is fo doomed to roam the depths of the astral domain in their pre-eclipse crippled most low selves for all eternity without any power over realitydoes that sound good?
In a way I get why people are upset Guts seems to be getting power ups instead of "being a regular person who works hard" but honestly, Guts was always special, this is why Griffith was obsessed with him the second he saw him fighting for the first time.I honestly feel like I enjoy where they are taking the story, but at the same time I don't find wrong taking that last chapter Miura wrote as the ending, it could be poetic to imagine everything ending with Griffith's confession his life fucking sucks, but like I said I like reading what Mori is cooking as well, even if Miura's final chapter already works as a spiritual ending of sorts.
>>288666314And Griffith brought them right back.
>>288668093Thanks for the explanation anon, damn I want to read Berserk again>>288668110>does that sound good?Yes, but I have another question, you guys think that the previous Godhand members were slain by SK/Gaiseric or they were "cycled out" by the Idea of Evil because each member has a life span of 1080 years? Remember that the Eclipse occurs every 216 years, multiply that amount for each member of the Godhand and you get 1080.
>>288654173That's Neo-European
>>288668190They cycled out
Is this still worth reading now that Miura's dead?
>>288668216It's like reading the Aeneid, I guess
>>288668147On that final chapter, theres that moment Guts and moonlight boy (Griffith) are playing swords, which could be read as their last fight... a simple swordplay, just for fun. What ruins it for me is that in that chapter IIRC, Guts is trying to tell himself that everything is fine, but he has lingering thoughts of Griffith still... (And Casca still gets trauma from seeing him) I find a bit too much to let Guts live the rest of his life still thinking about revenge in the back of his head and Casca not fully recovering, because of that I can't accept Miura's last chapter.Yea yea Berserk is brutal, but it leaves too much bitter in a bittersweet ending for me.I don't want Guts to live a mid life with a traumatized wife and still thinking about Griffith, just let my man rest either in some peaceful death free from the curse and/or give him Farnese and Casca for him to spread his god-tier seed.
>>288668216fuck off we're full
>>288666771Zodd is basically Guts if he fully embraced his warrior side and didn't give a shit about anything else.Even tho Berserk will 100% end with this manga, I still wish for some spin-offs and small adaptations to explore the world and background of some characters. Would be so cool to see how Zodd was before he sacrificed and what he had to let go of, imagine if he actually was already retired with wife and children but just couldn't get past his bloodlust, or what event could be so traumatic to trigger his Behelit?
>>288654620I had a theory about Guts being half demon thanks to his pointy eyes but thought that it was stupid...why
>>288668265In this aspect comics are superior to manga because once in a while a good author/writer takes some solid material and wrap some fresh concepts in it (Absolute Universe by DC is a prime example) but with mangas, most of the time it stays with the author or some disciple/nepo baby so instead of new interesting concepts, you get incestuous monstrosities like Boruto, or equivalent of Star Wars sequel shit/disney era like DBS.
>>288668265yeah zodd and skull knight are two of the best characters but i think less is more with how sparingly they have been used
>>288668335Because it is stupid, would have been better if he was just poetically a little out of the cycle of causality thanks to him being born from a corpse and bathing in demon blood every night.
>>288668342Absolute universe is kinda reddit lol.I think it's inferior to Kengan Ashura both in art and story and KA is like 6/10
I think Guts has some kind of resistance to the Godhands power, remember when Femto tried to kill him but he couldn't? People say that this panel shows that Griffith, deep inside his heart, still cares about Guts but I don't think that's the case.
>>288668461Fucking Miura had to die and leave all these questions unanswered and up to shounen tier writting to solve the series.
>>288660912>left hand of God>left hand path in magic is destruction>right hand path is protectionWhere's the right hand of God?
>>288654593slan... where are you? this is your moment to have sex with him
>>288668461>>288668513How many mysteries and unanswered questions are in Berserk?
>>288668461And don't forget that Guts is a MEDIUM, Schierke literally explains that he's so "monstruous" because he's a being that remains in the Interstice, where his mind can affect matter.Also the Dragonslayer is essentially a magic weapon now, Guts has slain countless apostles, astrals beings and humans that his own sword radiates OD, which is magic.>"Manipulation of Od is a typical facet of magic any practitioner can learn"This is nothing new.
>>288668461>>288668513>>288668577
>>288668577probably the major one for me is skull knight/void origin. looked like some heavy drama going on between the two, not unlike guts & griffithwe've pretty much figured out what went down but we can't really tell where it all began between the two, over the woman perhaps. it would be interesting if void had been fully "justified" in holding a grudge
where the fuck is the english version
>>288654177Remembers me of Griffith rebirth. He does have some resemblance to Femto.
>>288659732>World full of bullshit horror and hax>"m-muh human spirit!"Can we agree that this is the faggiest trope ever made?, I don't want Guts to be total Gary Stu, but i'm fine with this conclusion akin to Karl Franz From WH Fantasy
>>288668444I have my critics to some aspects to it (Batman being a budget Guts, inconsistent powerlevel with Batman tanking Bane's blows, Absolute Green Arrow and Catwoman not interesting either imo) but saying is "kinda reddit" not a real argument and just disingenuous. I don't get the point in replying with something so lowbrow, if you don't like it is ok but don't need to drag on it.I think Kengan Ashura is fucking garbage, but I just move forward and accept maybe is not for me.But some stuff like Superman coming from the lowest caste of Krypton, Absolute Brainiac being some lowlife clone that went insane due to being cruelly enslaved for hundred of years to a point he goes rogue and starts becoming even more deranged than the "aristocratic" Brainiacs, Scarecrow being actually terrifying due to having Tsukuyomi on steroids, and Poison Ivy being more than just gooner bait, all are incredible concepts that only new blood are about to bring to the table.Thats the point. I'm not even arguing whether the Absolute universe is superior or inferior than X, Y or Z, but they take concepts that were pretty much set in stone, and mold them without feeling forced. (Even if I do think is cringe at times, like Gordon sleeping with Batman's mom)
Let me guess, we have to wait another 9 months before we see chapter 385. Did Kouji Mori inherit Kentaro Miura's crippling Idol Master addiction?
>>288668730this time you'd be wrong because apparently they already have two more chapters lined upit appears they'll be released in batches to make sure that the story stays consistent to what they know
>>288660292>DragonslayerNot that I'm entirely disagreeing with you that Guts is indeed special, but the Dragonslayer was literally just a huge chunk of iron with no practical use.It only became special because Guts used it so much, it started to develop a soul or aura of its own... which is kinda in line with Japanese folklore that items that are used a lot become special over time.
Why are the Berserk anime so flawed?Berserk 1997>Missing Skull Knight>Ending makes no senseBerserk The Golden Age>Cuts many important moments>No bonfire of dreams>No WyaldBerserk 2016>No Black Swordsman arc>No Lost Children arc>Random new episode written by Miura himself>3DGI slop animation worse than PS2 games
>>2886687302 more chapters in less than a month and then a couple of months of hiatus, this chapter took so long to come out because it was incredibly challenging for Mori to adapt >>288657453
>>288668811They should have made a Berserk Dreamcast anime movie desu, it was written by Miura after all
>>288668811Berserk suffers from being already too flawless in its own way (Miura's art is not just about looking good, but being structured in a certain way to be overly dramatic or intense in some panels, which is lowkey impossible to replicate in animation, so you gotta have a good creative vision and accept it will be different, not try to force it a 1 by 1 copy)And being way too realistic. Even shit like The Punisher needs to prune itself to sell to mainstream media. Berserk is almost always a passion project so it suffers from proper budget, just look at social media and all those zoomers refusing to even give it a try because they know theres rape in it, so they think is just edgyslop. (While iroically slopping for shit like The Boys tv show) and just like Vagabond, Berserk is a slowburn, is not meant to hook you instantly, and most people nowadays need shows to spam cliffhangers and subvert at every 5 seconds for shock value (like chainsaw man)
>>288668728>Batman being a budget GutsI like this Batman as well but this is what pisses me off the most>GUYS HE IS BATMAN WITHOUT HIS MONEY! HE IS JUST LIKE US! A REGULAR JOE!Then cut to him being a 6'9 megachad that would stick out like a sore thumb
>>288654455I like how the white part of his hair seems linked to one of the few good moments of his life
>>288668461Griffith is still insecure and psychs himself out that he shouldn't care enough about Guts to need him dead. Biggest fake idgafer.
>>288654455>Guts deep down still remembers his mother ShisuCute
Miura has hinted at Guts being otherworldly throughout the whole manga. His birth, the pointy ears. Remember him seeing the fairy in his cell in the childhood flashback?
Skull Knight is fucking pissed>Obviously, this scene isn't over yet, and I expect more reveals. But this was already a disastrous turn for the continuation to make, in terms of its continuity with Berserk, and it resolves absolutely nothing about Tsug's current scenario. So he is now aware that somehow, before he was thrust into the interstice after being branded, he was actually already in the interstice, and had been all along? All this revelation did is address the past, and we already saw how he fared against Griffith. He predictably couldn't touch him, and that's the main reason he's in this funk. (Tsug: "Okay, so now I can hit him?" Flora: "No, dude. What? You've always been in the interstice. Try to keep up.") It changes nothing.>Wheres your brand? Oh I dont need it anymore. I am reborn and special. Like my old friend... seriously I wouldnt be surprised if they go that direction. We need a way to get rid of the brand. Throw him in a shell and make him reborn. Yeah that'll do it...>At this point Mori is either severely exaggerating or outright lying when talking about Miura. Either that or Miura spent the last 20 years gaslighting Mori on what he intended with Berserk just to see how long it would take him to figuring it out. And he never did.>As for the actual episode: nothing surprises me anymore. The continuation has been dead to me since Guts, or Tsug more accurately, accepted death at the hand of an apostle (not that it was any good to begin with). It's such an "I'm 14 and this is deep" moment, that it hurts my soul every time I remember it. The only thing about the continuation I look forward to is the day it ends (if the day will even come in my lifetime).>Turning Guts into "one of the" chosen ones completely ruins his character, this is like the most overused thing ever, seeing a character progressing against all odds just to find out he is the son of some God or the Messiah of a prophecy
>>288669184lolThey're mad that 30+ year checkov's guns are being utilized.
>>288669184no reason to be mad
>>288669184SK forums is what would happen if you take gay reddit modding and 4chan pretentiousness and meld them together to form come fucked up amalgamation. I was banned there years ago for suggesting that it’s for the fans interests that they are continuing the manga, so we get an ending. They seem to think it’s some kind of conspiracy to make money and are going against the creators wishes.
>>288662969>. I won't be surprised if it's revealed that guts was zodd's bastard son.>O MY DEMON HERITAGEoh god this would retroactively ruin berserk reputation if they really do that, it'll be one piece all over again
>>288668461>People say that this panel shows that Griffith, deep inside his heart, still cares about Guts but I don't think that's the case.No, he is. Griffith always can kill him if he wanted to, especially after his rebirth on the sword monument hill. He simply leave instead of just killing guts and casca right there and then, showing that he didn't have the heart to kill guts by his own hand even now.
>>288668788>but the Dragonslayer was literally just a huge chunk of iron with no practical useIt was too big to be used. You seem to be ignoring that part on purpose.
>>288669234Imagine a wholesome ending where Moon Child survives after Femto's defeat and Zodd casually hangs around like other antagonists that are now chill like Azan and Daiba. Zodd being a doting grandfather while with Guts mirroring Yujiro and Baki.
What's going to happen to Guts now? Is his body going to be healed?
>>288669550No, why would it be?
>>288669565Because by the end of it he could barely see and he was starting to struggle to use his sword
>>288669550Guts has to be healed here because apart from his Eclipse injuries his physical constitution has been fucked by the berserker armor, he has muscle and nerve damage as well as being nearly blind in his remaining eye. He needs to be in top shape for the final battle.Also Guts arriving totally healed will rattle Griffith because it means that not even a Godhand could take things away from Guts. That in itself would be a huge fuck you.
>>288669591No I mean why would hanging out in a sensory deprivation meditation chamber regrow his flesh?
>>288669619Guts made contact with one of the most powerful magic entities in the Berserk universe who has personal beef with Femto as well.
>>288669648You seem to be really enamored with this idea of Guts being physically healed. Maybe you should disengage from it now so you won't get mad at the manga later on when it doesn't happen.
>>288656065I actually agree, the way Guts is characterized looks a bit Ben 10. It's just a bit cheesy compared to other cover arts over the years.
>>288654442He'd do that
>>288669685It's an inevitability since what is happening to Guts is mirroring the rituals that restored Griffith after he was tortured and maimed. They're even stressing this in the panels how connected they are. We have also been shown that both Guts' physical and mental health have both taken a downturn and this is the juncture to address them both.
>>288669769Okay but when it doesn't happen and you start whining about bad writing, I want you to remember that you were warned.
>>288669793I have media literacy so I simply will not be wrong.
I'm out, I don't care if this is what Miura had in mind. This farce has gone on long enough. Berserk died when Miura died.
>>288669827You say that every year!
>>288669827>>288669853The goal posts keep changing>Berserk sucked after The Golden Age>Berserk sucked after Lost Children>Berserk sucked after Conviction>Berserk sucked after Schierke is introduced in Volume 22 10 August 2001>Berserk sucked after Millennium Falcon Arc>Berserk sucked after pirates>Berserk sucked after Miura passed
>>288669184>Skull Knight is fucking pissedDay ending in Y
>>288658096I kneel
>>288665432>We know exactly when, how and why Guts is in the Interstice. It's because he was branded during the Eclipse.Nigger, guts met skull knight for the first time BEFORE the eclipse. He has always lived in the interstice. The flashback with the flower fairy was meant to show that he has always been tied with the spiritual world even before the eclipse. Citch was significantly weaker than puck that not even normal people able to see her, but he did. Also it's not that he is special and born to kill Griffith or something, it's that since he wasn't meant to exist in the first place, he can carve his own fate unlike other people whose fate already set in stone. Either he leaves Griffith for good or continue his revenge is up to him. the magicians were also implied to exist outside of fate and so guts is not that special.
>>288670155The flower fairy bullshit was a retcon that Mori added because heh ad no idea where to take the story, he'd been left in a dead end without Miura's guidance
>>288670179You should consider reading the manga
>>288665789>breaks no sweatNigger he was 4 feet deep in the grave and can't even move a muscle for a few weeks. He would be dead if it isn't for schierke healing magic.
>>288665789Bud I mean this earnestly - read the fucking manga. If there's one thing the manga is very good at, it's showing the damage Guts sustains and the impact of it. Name a single instance of Guts just walking away uninjured from a big fight. In the instance of the Sea God he literally had to rest for a month on a boat before recovering. How do we know this? Moonlight Boy appears monthly on full moon nights, he appeared the night of the Sea God fight and then again on Elfhelm. They were on Elfhelm for 4 days.
>>288666527Sir Griffith, lock in.
Hi anons, didn’t read any chapter post 364, I’ve heard the pace became more streamlined nowadays, but how long do you think manga is going to continue? I checked the wiki, and it seems like roughly 22 chapters released over these 4 years, but like, are we 20 more chapters close to ending or 150 lol?
Why don't Berk fans read their manga? I'm convinced at this point the majority of the manga is literally just an amalgamation of 1997 tards, Tiktok zoomers and 4chan brainlets who watched a recap video on YouTube. Basic shit like refusing to acknowledge that Skull Knight gave Guts the exact same information they Flora is giving him right now is extremely telling.
>>288670245If Berserk continues beyond Chapter 420-430 I would be genuinely surprised. I think we're going to have an ending by Volume 50, at the least.
>>288668265>Would be so cool to see how Zodd was before he sacrificed and what he had to let go of, imagine if he actually was already retired with wife and children but just couldn't get past his bloodlust, or what event could be so traumatic to trigger his Behelit?Fuck off with this illiterate reddit bullshit, Zodd is good because everything with him is shrouded in mistery, revealing everything will just ruin mysticism. It would be better if he just activated the behelith not out of traumatic event or anything, he just getting old and he wants to keep killing people forever.
>>288670259Gms
>>288666771Negative, Zodd is drawn and written like a final boss. He wasn't and isn't meant to be a redeemable character. The man is drawn like old medieval demon, what makes you think he will turn a new leaf?
>>288670248I don't know who Flora is but it sounds like Retcon City to me. Berserk was always about Guts working hard to be able to keep up with his superior enemies and using human ingenuity (crossbow, cannon arm) to even the odds. Now all of a sudden he's super special god-boy who can magically overpower Griffith?
>>288667763>>He's able to do that because he worke don it his whole life>Retards.Nigger, berserk people was built different. Silat has two bodyguard whose body harder than metal armor, daiba can fly, Samson and boscogne both almost overpower guts multiple time and tower over him like a giant. Hell, the entire bakiraka clan has inhuman feats, you can't cut an armorer knight in halves with sharp disc no matter how hard you throw.
>>288670294He's not super special. All he is is born in the interstice, which means that he's not bound by fate. He's not the only one. You have to be one to be a mage. What makes him unique is the fact the he survived the sacrifice and that set him in a path that goes against one of the God hand.
>>288668342Where did you read comics nowadays? No way you are actually buying them
>>288668342>my new BATMAN book is better than manga, guyse!Oh fuck off
>>288670294>Now all of a sudden he's super special god-boy who can magically overpower Griffith?Where are you getting this from?
>>288670294Read the manga.
>>288670420YAYOYAYOGUTS TOOK A BITE OUT OF NIKA NIKA
Why don't people just wait for the actual Japanese scans and the english TL of that. Is everything just based off shitty Arabic TLs right now?
>>288670564Yes. We can't wait because we are impatient and cannot delay gratification. Sorry.
>>288670564The Arabic translation is pretty good actually.
