Kubo took this away from us,Let’s burn his house down!
>>288665604We love riruka here
>>288665604One of the Golden Rules of Shonen
>>288665604Excerpt from an old Kubo commentary made in regard to the live action movie:> <....> I had two requests. First, don't change the nature and distances of character relationships compared to the original word. Second, don't make character's emotions and actions contradict each other. <...> Kubo couldn't take from you something that didn't exist in the first place.
>>288665637updated your shit
>>288665604Kubo = GIGAULTRAbased.
>>288667161I thought Gege was gay.
>>288667161>Yuji was birthed by a thousand year old dude controlling his mom's corpse>ends up hanging out with his only friend who looks so old she might as well be a corpseI guess that's a win.
>>288665604I liked Orihime cause of her looks and fat tits, but Rukia definitely deserved it more. Every time I caught an episode it was always Rukia and Ichigo together.
>>288665604The MC ended up with the Love Interest. It's not Kubo's fault you're illiterate.I don't understand shippers. Romance is not complicated, characters are designed from the beginning to end up together. It's not a mystery; it's not interesting; it just is what it is because babies need to be made. And then these shippers show up like, "Well I think X will end up with Q!" Why? You can't genuinely believe that. It's not possible to be that stupid, it's more believable that you have simply thought too much about it that you've convinced yourself the obvious answer can't be the real one. You need more hobbies. Your boredom is shitting up threads.Or it's schizophrenia.
Rukia is certified used goods.Orihime is the only one Ichigo knew with 100% certainty was a virgin.He made the right choice.
Looking back kubo did a shit job on the top 3 espada
>>288668434>Why?Because Rukia and Ichigo had an intimate relationship beyond surface-level friendship. Most of the writing used for their relationship is overtly romantic in pretty much all fiction everywhere.>secret girl living in your room>leans of past trauma and helps get revenge>"I'll wait for you to tell me, when you're ready">fucking page after page with dual panels showing their faces staring at each other>he saves her just as she's about to be executed and is tearing up over the regret of her life lost>she saves him when he's at his absolute lowest, thinking everyone he's known and loved have betrayed himHoly fucking shit, it's not even funny how unarguably romantic they were written. No, it's not "LE FUNNY FRIENDSHIP XD." Not even Kishimoto wrote male friendship like this.
>>288665637Not true for Naruto
>>288665604it was never going to happen man, not even if it was better. learn to live with it
>>288669009by which i mean, do the opposite of what this rabbitholed fuck is doing>>288668922
>>288665604I still like yoruichi and ichigo ever since that one scene in the soul society arc
>>288668901>There are only two types of relationship: surface-level friendship and non-stop fuckingAt least you accept that there is anything besides fucking.Shippers are a scourge of the Earth and should have their nails torn off.
>>288669060"Shippers" is not a magically>I won the argument carddouchebag. Rukia and Ichigo's relationship, particularly in the first two arcs, was written romantically, and they literally even tease at it openly. Just because the author didn't get them together doesn't retroactively erase that.It's literally the same thing with Shokugeki no Souma, between Souma and Megumi: the author pulled back on it later, but early on he was 100% teasing them together.
>>288665604Rukia should've died here
>>288669113>was written romanticallNo it wasn't.The elements you listed >>288668901 are either done for comedy purpose (secret girl living in the room) or have nothing to do with romance at all. The only (and I mean it) leaning towards a hint of romance is the fact that Ichigo looks like Kaien, and even then, it's mostly tangential.Of course she'd let Ichigo get revenge. Not out of romantic attraction, but because she applies a lesson on honour she received long ago.Of course she'll say "I'll wait for you to tell me when you're ready". It's a very sensitive and traumatic topic, she was even beating herself the entire Grand Fisher arc for how insensitive she was by clumsily prying initially. Or are you implying that this phrase somehow had double meaning, and she was waiting for him to say "I love you" there? Don't get me wrong, I know it's ridiculous, But it's IchiRuki we're talking about, I'm bracing myself for the worst.Of course there are page after page of dual panels of them. In most cases, they are the only beings with spiritual power who can take action. They exchange phrases. They are main characters at this point. What do you want Kubo to draw? Walls?Of course Ichigo saves her. He is deeply indebted top her for saving his life, lives of his family and giving a new purpose in life. Of course Lucia'd save him in return. He saved her life, he made the other dearest person in her life (Byakuya) finally recognise Lucia as a person. And Ichigo was utterly miserable. Their relationship is no doubt much, much more than surface-level friendship. Its true friendship built on mutual respect, debt and return of said debts, They've changed each other's lives profoundly and irreversibly. But to claim that this is a tell tale sign of romantic involvement is a delusion cooked by cum brain and literal interpretation of tropes.
>>288669603>are either done for comedy purpose (secret girl living in the room) or have nothing to do with romance at all.The litmus test is simple: could you replace Rukia with a guy and have the same scene? The answer is a resounding no.>male Rukia in tears as he remembers his moments of Ichigo, right before he dies>Ichigo shows up to save him at the last secondNo, that does not work with two men. While men saving men is common, the framing only works when the captive is a girl.>Male Rukia intimately telling Ichigo that she'll wait until he's ready to tell her about his past, as we get panels of his shocked and moved reaction>the moment had a big impact on him and he remembers and references it later onNo, you could not have this scene with two men. It would be gay as fuck, and no one would write or draw it the way it is in the manga.>Male Rukia literally being asked if he likes Ichigo.No.>Male Rukia smiling and showing up at the last moment to save a despairing and grief stricken Ichigo by impaling him with a magic swordFuck no.
Can they announce a fucking release date already?
So we all agree that they were fucking, right?
>>288669676>The litmus test is simple: could you replace Rukia with a guy and have the same scene? The answer is a resounding no.The answer is resounding "it's not that simple". Some scene wouldn't make sense, that's for sure because gender dynamic are different. For example, the scene where Lucia was outright asked by her classmates if she likes ichigo won't work. It's girl gossip, and it's not America, girls won't gossip with men they suspect to be gay about their potential love interest, But the rest you've mentioned… The fact that you can't fathom the idea of a friend going out of his way to help a friend, to pull a friend from the lowest point of his life, being tactful when talking to a friend, the urge to show off, is telling. Not sure what this is telling, but it does tell something. Perhaps that you're a woman.
>>288669889
>>288670099>Don't interfere!>I won't (please don't die over pride, I'll blame myself for not helping)>Hey, I made it!>Thank you for not dyingPerhaps, what this tells is that you never had a friend. Or never saw people being friends.
>>288670196I've never had or given a lap pillow from/to another man.
>>288670285Men usually don't. Again, tropes and difference in gender dynamics. Not all scenes will survive the hypothetical transition you've proposed because of them. One sign of affection and care (lap pillow) will be replaced with another (smile and a jab, perhaps). Anyway, your "litmus test" is faulty at the first place. It assumes that friendship is male-male specific thing, which is not. And if male and female character care for each other, they want to fuck, which they don't.
>>288665604is that hanataro?
>>288668922Doesn't exist
>>288668434>>288668901>>288669060>>288669603>>288669676>>288669889This is written by someone who has never had sex or dated women before. Sad.
It is amazing how TYBW beats the reader over the head with the numerous ways men and women support each other in both romantic and non-romantic ways just for people to chimp out over Rukia and Ichigo not ending up together.
Kubo took Rukia x Kon away from us
It's never been a debate, even cosplayers know
>>288668434It is Kubo's fault. The lead romance was so poorly written that almost every reader preferred a different pairing(even though the author's intentions were obvious.)Being a blind fanboy does not make anyone else illiterate lil bro.
>>288668434Just shut up, moron. It's obvious Kubo designed his story poorly. He gave a thousand intimate moments to Ichigo/Rukia and none whatsoever to Orihime except a tepid "kisses him while he's unconscious then sacrifices herself and needs rescue". He never reciprocated and there was no character development or growth between the two of them as a pairing.Stop trying to pretend otherwise, you're literally just an obvious disingenuous ass, and the fact you always glue yourself to threads like this instead of just walking away because it doesn't concern you is proof.
He should've went balls deep in his tomboy childhood friend.
>IchigoxRukia>NarutoxSakura>GokuxBulma
>>288671292>>288671312Sweet IchiRuki tears.If only it was possible to tap into them, humanity would enter the era of infinte energy.
>Naruto>Everyone got hitched with reckless abandon not giving a fuck who just grabbing the nearest person of the opposite sex and boning them>Bleach>Only like 2 canon couples in the end and everyone else ended up alonehuh
>>288665604Maybe Kubo will put them as a pairing in the highschool novel, because there the relationships and even the personalities of the characters are different to the canon ones.Kubo said in the novel postscript that he and Narita were both competing to see just how much nosense they could get with.
>>288672658He's only given Ulquihime crumbs in the novel. Momo and icefaggot also have a dedicated chapter between them. I think the rabid shippers really ruined Kubo's fondness for their relationship.
>>288672707There will be at least a second volume of that novel.
>>288673093And they probably won't have anything. Especially since the stars of the novel seem to be Ichigo and Grimmjow. Kubo knows fujobucks are the key to success.
>>288671281
>>288665604Still getting worked by the anime psyop in the first 50 episodes
>>288672707>UlquihimeNarita has consistent shit taste when it comes to writing for other people's IP's
>>288665604rukia is standing on her toes on a chair there
>>288673424That was Kubo's idea dumb-dumb.
Anyone who thinks we're complaining because the canon result took us by surprise is a massive idiotOf course we saw it comingIt was bullshit before it happened and it was bullshit afterTake away the big "this is the endgame romance" flags with Orihime and suddenly there is no romance there at allTake them away with Rukia and you still have a completely believable couple
>>288672607Bleach's handling of its endgames is far better than Naruto's. Ichihime alone is infinitely better than Naruhina, or any other pairing in that series.
>>288674671Naruto gets away with it by just giving zero fucksIt doesn't matter to Naruto who any of these people end up with in the slightest so it could just say "and then after the war those guys all found love" and be chill with itWith the exception of Sakura, she shouldn't have ended up with Sasuke (and not with Naruto either)
>>288671820Not as good as Rukia, but better than Orihime
There are two conversations about Bleach: "X is better than Y (usually Rukia is better than Orihime)", and "This makes no fucking sense"
>>288665633Fpbp
>>288675176IchiRuki is the only thing about Bleach that doesn't make sense, actually.
>>288675310Lies
>>288665604its the superior pairing obviously but kubo wanted to go against the "hero with heroine" pairing for some reason. he either draws ichigo alone or alongside rukia so at least we still get fed while ichihimefags and renrukifags especially the latter are wishing for any kind of new content kek
>>288675877You can see the art degradation in the bottom left. Even the art from the novel is subpar, not even mentioning the No Breathes From Hell.
>>288673258Nice butt
>>288676010There is nothing wrong with the art of No Breathes from Hell.
>>288675629Well, yes, there are some other things, but they're not nearly as numerous as people believe.
>>288676154how does ichiruki not make sense? is it because of orihime? because in canon, ichigo liked no one, rukia liked no one, renji liked no one, and orihime loved ichigo but he was oblivious to those feelings. it would have made more sense for no pairings to happen
>>288676179Renji was in love with Rukia tho.
>>288665604Yeah, Ichigo should've ended up with Unohana
>>288676193can you post the manga page where renji confesses he loves rukia the same way orihime does with ichigo?
>>288676211Can you do the same for IchiRuki?
>yoruichi x urahara>kenpachi x unohana>ichigo x rukia>gin x rangikuhe fucked every single good pairing he had
>>288676230The first one is more of a fuckfriend relationship.
>>288676219did you not read my original post? i said ichigo, rukia, and renji loved no one in canon. if renruki can happen with zero canon feelings then the same could have been pulled for ichiruki esepcially since they had more emotionally driven moments
>>288676230>Orihime gets no-one in your mindI see right through you
>>288676211I think you are one dense guy, anon.
>>288667879Renji is so lucky
>>288676275ulquihime and ishihime are both kind of boring....ulquihime has the bad boy x good girl trope so maybe it could work but i dont consider either a good pairing. the four i listed are the dynamics i enjoyed
>>288676243Hat&cat are crazy because on the one had you have>Man with two kids and a live in life partner and the other is >Slut that goes around hitting on anythign that moves and has a constant will they won't they with her lesbian former assistant Yet it's universally understood both in universe and by fans that they are a couple.
>>288676256Your post is nonsense.You ask (me, btw) why IchiRuki makes no sense, then answer the question yourself: Ichigo didn't like anyone, Lucia didn't like anyone, and that's precisely why it doesn't make sense. Orihimne has nothing to do with this, I don't know why you assumed that.
>>288665604Bruh, let it fucking go ffs.Having chemistry as vitriolic best buds =/= sexual tension.
Personally, I just prefer Ichiruki
>>288676341so ichihime makes sense because she liked him? it would have made more sense for ichigo to end up with no one. im glad newer shounen writers are realizing they didnt focus enough on mutual romance and dont go for endgames
>>288676376>designed to compliment each other>both fan favorites>literal soulmates who changed each others worlds>hero and heroine, male and female lead>peak banter and dynamic >would have copied isshin x masakis story if they happenedkubo had something great
>>288676313>He doesn't know vanilla pairs well with orangeDie madThe best couple is canon and there's nothing you can do about it
our hero, our heroine, our two main nakamas and toshiro. rip chad and orihime kek
>>288676377>so ichihime makes sense because she liked him?I don't know why you assume that I was arguing against IchiRuki in favour of IchiHime. I'm just arguing against shippers, and IchiRukis are still infesting my Bleach threads a decade later instead of speculating on what waits Lucia in the future of Bleach, be it Cour 4 or the inevitalbe Hell Arc.But yes, it did make more sense. Orihime's entire arc from her appearance in Chapter 2 to Epilogue is to conquer Ichigo. The girl fought for her happiness and succeeded. She broke through the wall of ignorance and found a positive response. Good for her. And I won't go again over all the arguments in favour of the Idea that Ichigo wasn't entirely uninterested even in the earlier arcs, but you know them all, I guess. You had more than a decade of fiery arguments that won't ever result in anything of value.
>>288676485At least it's made by the anime staff and not Kubo.
Kubo took this away from us.
>>288676193Nta, I take issue with Renji being paired with Rukia way more than I take issue with Rukia not being paired with Ichigo.I'd rather have nothing than that.
>>288676599>the inevitalbe Hell Arc.this isnt going to happen. if he hasnt been working on burn the witch part 2 hes definitely not working on the hell arc which would run as a weekly serialization>The girl fought for her happiness and succeeded.she failed when she stood beside him on the battlefield but sure
>>288676256>renji loved no one in canonYou are kidding
>>288672658>Kubo said in the novel postscript that he and Narita were both competing to see just how much nosense they could get with.Source
>>288676694>this isnt going to happen.The announcement will be made soon after Cour 4 finale.
>>288676686Why did you answer to my post?
>>288671890/a/ wanted NH and IR.
>>288676790most people here are new, they have no idea how angry /a/ was when the final chapter spoilers dropped
>>288671890The only one that had any canon support was Goku x Bulma, even in the Bleach oneshot, Ichigo was more interested in Inoue than Rukia and Sakura never showed any interest in Naruto.
>>288676686Rukia was in love with Renji, at the very least since they at the academy, so she finally had what she wanted.
>>288676773KEK that would be awesome but i dont think kubo wants another weekly serialization after his shoulder incident. he has a bunch of collabs, another novel project with narita and a paid fanclub along with the new anime. i wouldnt be surprised if nothing comes out of the hell one shot for a very long time, he hasnt even given us an update on btw 2
>>288676852>Rukia was in love with Renji,oh please, if anything she was in love with kaien which is why she was jealous that he had a wife
They have more chemistry than ichiruki and that's a fact.
>>288676852 I just found it unsatisfying and kinda lame. Like, it was definitely being set up to happen, sure. But that setup was more just telling us ahead of time that it was happening, not putting in the work to earn it and make me want it to happen.
>>288676867>in love with Kaien>jealous that he had a wife>turning a mentor/student relationship into headcanon
Are they going to make tomorrow a new mv with Asian Kun-fu generation music?
>>288676901uhh you can still fall in love with your mentor lol. look at momo and aizen
>>288676915https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_KJnyhbOoEYes, they are.
>>288676937>look at momo and aizen>even more headcanonReminder that she has a stronger relationship with Shinji than she did with Aizen bonding over their issues with Aizen
>>288676898rukia just should have ended up alone. she never showed interested in renji like that and vice-versa. kubo could have built upon their shared past and reunion, but all we got was panels of them standing next to each other instead of actual dialogue and stand-out moments. even their wedding novel has very little content of them interacting together which is something renrukifags complained about>>288676976>momo having romantic affection for aizen is headcanoncome on now
>>288676852>pushes his childhood friend away, completely misunderstanding her feelings>thinks staying away for 40 years until he's at her level is what she wanted>acts like an asshole when he finally sees her again>doesn't do anything to save her from death's row, and even verbally abuses her>tries to stop the guy trying to save her like a delusional idiot when that won't change anything about her sentence>never apologizes for any of this, while Byakuya did and even Rukia apologized to Kukaku>admits that Ichigo is one who brought them together at the end like a cuckHe's genuinely written like a complete loser. It's worse that he isn't even on the forefront of Rukia's mind when she's about to die.
>>288677024he also choked her. same reason i cant get behind ulquihime, he threatened to rip her heart out
>>288676976>Momo loving Aizen is headcanonCome on, she was melting from a headpat and reminiscing of smells. Sure, whether they were fucking or not is debatable and left vague on purpose, the fact that she was in love with the bastard is undeniable. More bonding with Shinji? Abdolutely, Aizen wasn't intending to bond with anyone.
>>288677040I can at least excuse that since she was in her Gigai, so whatever he did to her wouldn't actually hurt her konpaku.>same reason i cant get behind ulquihime, he threatened to rip her heart outThat threat was more about Ulquiorra's philosophy and not taken to be meant literally, but yeah, he was horrible to her, but at least that ship isn't canon, unlike Renruki.
>>288676867Rukia and Renji were stranged because they couldn't have a romance, because Rukia was a noble. Ask yourself why they couldn't have simply relationship o friendship when Rukia was adopted.
>>288676898No, it was subtle, with hints here and there, and many of us like that kind of romance telling.
>>288677093>why they couldn't have simply relationship o friendship when Rukia was adopted.it tells you right there anon, shes in a completely different place from either of them. with how byakuya is written in the flashbacks he would have berated her for being friends with either renji or kira due to class difference, probably would have told her its shameful
dont we have a statement from renjis VA saying hes surprised renruki happened? no reason to act that they were "so" obvious
>>288665604Okay but seriously, the ending of the Soul Society arc should have clued in people that Ichiruki wouldn't happen. Her choosing to stay cemented that no matter their bond, what each want literaly belong in different worlds. It'd have been another story if Rukia decided to go back to the human world instead, or even if Urahara's initial plan to turn her human worked, but that's not what happened.
>>288677078>Aizen wasn't intending to bond with anyone.Are you sure about that?
>>288677221>dont we haveWho's we, and no, we don't.
>this august will mark a decade since the ending>kubo still hasnt drawn anything for the ichihime weddingis it still unpopular in japan or is this kubos own decision?
>>288677288That's another issue entirely. It really made no sense that Rukia was willing to stay in a place where almost everyone she knew was either on the fence about her execution but did nothing meaningful to halt it, or actively supported it. Even Ichigo was expecting she'd come back to live in his closet or something. It's even more confusing when Isshin himself made that choice to stay with Masaki.
>>288677342Kubo just isn't interested in depicting romance.
>>288677327even he said "since when" KEK
>>288677352Very true. That moment genuinely baffled me.
>>288677123Subtlety has nothing to do with it
>>288677352kubo likes when his characters forgive those that tried to kill them. byakuya treated rukia like trash but she turned into a slight brocon after his apology. ulquiorra tortured orihime in the mexico arc but she still showed him empathy in the end...even after he put a hole in ichigo, the man she loves. ginjo mindfucked ichigo in the fb arc but he still wanted to give him a proper burial
I just read through this thread I've gotta say you shippers are fucking pathetic. This place is like HM right now, nothing but wandering souls unable to let go of something that happened a decade ago.
>>288677024>>pushes his childhood friend away, completely misunderstanding her feelingsBecause circumstances of social strata dictate so. A commoner can't be with a noble.>thinks staying away for 40 years until he's at her level is what she wantedNot because he thought she wanted this, but because he knew that she had to do the same, because of social strata.>acts like an asshole when he finally sees her againAre you not aware of social masks in Japan? His direct superior, who's obsessed with upholding law and order, was right here, of course he would behave as if he's at work. Despite this at the end of the confrontation when Lucia recklessly run to save Ichigo, the mask slipped, and he expressed GENUINE CARE.>doesn't do anything to save her from death's row, and even verbally abuses herHe does so because despite everything they are on at least speaking terms and that he's sure that Byakuya will free Lucia through his influence, of which he informs her THE VERY NEXT PAGE>tries to stop the guy trying to save her like a delusional idiot when that won't change anything about her sentenceHave you ever heard of subordination, hierarchy and duty? In this very fight with Ichigo Renji explains him in plain text why he fights Ichigo in plain text: He can't go against orders, but if Ichigo can defeat him, there is a chance that he cat turn things around. Stupid? Sure. But that's how things are.
>>288677468ship talk is the only thing keeping this thread alive. no one cares about the collabs or the new au novel and the anime doesnt air for a couple of weeks
>>288677501>>288677024>never apologizes for any of this, while Byakuya did and even Rukia apologized to KukakuBecause in his mind he did everything right with the cards he had: obeyed the society, obeyed the law, obeyed his superiors, powerless to change anything directly but testing a possible saviour.>admits that Ichigo is one who brought them together at the end like a cuckThat's just mean on your part. Ichigo did bring them together through his actions, why wouldn't Renji thank him for that?The conclusion is, you're a speedreader. Even if you don't know about quirks of Japanese society, most of these points are explained in the manga in plain text soon after, sometime the very next page.
>>288677468>shippersStopped reading there.
>>288677501>He can't go against ordersdude LOL he ends up going against orders and got BTFO by byakuya
>>288676413This butt? Ichigo's property.
>>288677024>pushes his childhood friend away, completely misunderstanding her feelingsNo, it's the contrary. Renji sensed or knew that Rukia was in love with him, but he wanted that she had a family so he feigned enthusiasm so she would accept the adoption, but he immediately realized that Rukia was dissapointed when he congratuled her, but even so, he was decided to not interfere, this is, stop Rukia telling her to stay with him, or confessing he had feeings for her too.
>>288677532>Can't go against orders>Goes anyway>LosesSee, he can't.
>>288677024>thinks staying away for 40 years until he's at her level is what she wantedCompletely false. Renji and Rukia, BOTH, avoided each other, for various reasons >>288677093
>>288677555>>288677501In any other manga a character like Renji would have never gotten with Rukia, he's the doormat childhood friend who's too afraid to go against the status quo, whether it be the status of the relationship or something else in the manga. The character who never goes against the in-story system always loses.
>>288677024>acts like an asshole when he finally sees her againActed as a shinigami in a mission, trying Rukia wouldn't get into more trouble.
>>288677432Forgiving and trusting are completely different things
>>288677525>Stopped reading thereStopped reading what, this shitty thread?
>>288677543>Renji sensed or knew that Rukia was in love with himdo you actually believe this?
>>288665604Where the fuck is the end of Bleach anime? Did they forget about that? Why am I the only one on Earth thinking about it?
>>288677537hahaha!
>>288677651>fanart vs an actual panelKEK
>>288677543Renji didn't know Rukia was in love with him. He knew Rukia wanted to stay with him, that's all. That's why he knew he had to give her his encouragement, because his opinion would be the one that made her decision.
>>288677352Yeah, admitedly, it's that general Shonen manga stuff where people are way too forgiving not to mention Soul Society being awful kinda get brushed under the table. But it does make it clear Kubo didn't want to make them looks romantic by avoiding the total parallel with Isshin x Masaki and well, the implications of a girl leaving her family and home to move in with a boy('s closet). I do think it could have been better, but people back in 2016 really shouldn't have been blindsided by the ending.>>288677468Ahah, but HM has Tier Harribel, so who's the real loser?
>>288677508>Ships>collabs>AU novelAll shit and irrelevant. And thank God it's not powerscaling either.Unfortunately, no one cares about real topics like Hell Arc and Cour 4 speculations, dispelling misconceptions, theory crafting and shitting on Narita. Alas.>>288677606It's painfully obvious that Bleach is not any other manga.
>>288677656>an actual panel of Ichigo seeing Rukia's ass is xis idea of legitimacy
at least orihime trains in EVERY arc to get stronger to stand alongside ichigo even if she does fail during the pre yhwach battle. renji only decides to try after crying to ichigo like a loser
>I will never let her goThese are the words of a man in love
>>288677717yet kubo couldnt even spare a confess from his end lolz
>>288677677Do you think she has lorgies with her Fraccion + Neliel?
>>288677733>unnatural anatomy 101
>>288677724Neither from Ichigo towards Rukia or vice versa, lolz
>>288668901You forgot the best part, her eloping into the night because she was afraid of feelings.>Rukia sits in a tree, looking very solemnly towards Ichigo on the school rooftop>Gets asked if she loves Ichigo and she loses her cool>Puts on the fake smile while her inner monologue berates that shinigami shouldn't have feelings like love, which is as good as a confession>Elopes into the night>Later says that Ichigo's closet is the only place she can sleep well>Orihime comments that the room smells like IchigoPlatonic Friendship, guys.
>>288677698>Hell Arcwhy would anyone care about a POTENTIAL sequel? its been 5 whole years without an update>Cour 4 speculationswhats to speculate? we know we will get new content, with confirmed new toshiro scenes. what characters do you want to focus on? or do you think the novels will get adapted?>dispelling misconceptionslike what?
>>288677764yup never said differently but they have a better relationship, probably because theres is the most important to the story.
>>288677768Don't forget her last moments before her execution, Ichigo got the biggest panel. Apparently some anons believe Rukia was in love with Renji in story so wouldn't he get the most focus during this time?
>in love with renji since the academy days>doesnt spare him a thought during the as nodt fightLMAO right right
>>288668434>characters are designed from the beginning to end up together.Authors rarely think two pages ahead, and any plan they have can change in an hour because the editor said A instead of B. Not to mention magazine polls saying the last chapters/X character sucks.
>>288677501>>288677521>Because circumstances of social strata dictate so. A commoner can't be with a noble.He could've pressed her to refuse the offer and that was that. The melodrama would've never existed.>Not because he thought she wanted this, but because he knew that she had to do the same, because of social strata.See my previous point.>Are you not aware of social masks in Japan? His direct superior, who's obsessed with upholding law and order, was right here, of course he would behave as if he's at work. Despite this at the end of the confrontation when Lucia recklessly run to save Ichigo, the mask slipped, and he expressed GENUINE CARE.This doesn't look like genuine care to me at all.>He does so because despite everything they are on at least speaking terms and that he's sure that Byakuya will free Lucia through his influence, of which he informs her THE VERY NEXT PAGEYou're ignoring my point. You don't angrily shout at the person you love to just die already when she's on death's row, no matter the context.>Have you ever heard of subordination, hierarchy and duty? In this very fight with Ichigo Renji explains him in plain text why he fights Ichigo in plain text: He can't go against orders, but if Ichigo can defeat him, there is a chance that he cat turn things around. Stupid? Sure. But that's how things are.See pic related.>That's just mean on your part. Ichigo did bring them together through his actions, why wouldn't Renji thank him for that?Because it's really pathetic. And he blamed him before.>288677543Which is an insanely stupid thing to do and shows he cared more about the system than her.>>288677607The mission was just to capture her but the very first thing he does is saying how she has little time left to live and threatening her some more.>>288677589But that's not what she actually wanted. We see it with how she tried so hard to please Byakuya despite his aloofness, and even crushed on Kaien. She was starved for affection.
>>288677779>why would anyone care about a POTENTIAL sequel?Because it's better than wallowing IchiRukis.>whats to speculate?What's so important about Katagiri's bloodline? What's the deal with Izumi's scar? Why Ukitake is still alive in the anime? What do visions of Gerard's and Nakk Le Varr's demise in Senjumaru's Bankai have to do with their eventual defeat? That's the deal with Uryuu's eye-related powers? Will the Visored job again or will finally prove their worth? What's the deal with Rangiku and Gerard? What new content can possibly fill five new episodes? Just from the top of my head.>or do you think the novels will get adapted?Lmao, no. >like what?Like people thinking that OMZ is literally Yhwach. I could also mention Chad and Orihime being Fullbringers, but that's falls under a theory after all.
>>288668434It was never about who we thought would be togetherWe saw where it was going from the beginning, and we rejected it because it was bad
>>288677938>I could also mention Chad and Orihime being Fullbringers, but that's falls under a theory after all.not a theory kek, its canon and confirmed in the novels and on kubos q&a
>xhe is still clinging to the as nodt sceneWow it's like being in 2015 all over again
>>288677929
>>288677970its just funny to claim rukia was always in love with renji when>ichigo got the biggest panel during her would be final moments in the ss arc>didnt spare him a thought during the as nodt battle meanwhile she thought of ichigo orihime and byakuya>renjis name meaning second love meaning she was in love with someone else in story, most likely kaien
>>288665604>"Haaah? Wouldn't Kurosaki prefer a living human woman?">"Huh? Nah, no way. Ichigo's with that airhead human girl," Grimmjow says, remembering the girl Ichigo had risked his life to come to Hueco Mundo to save.
Rukia is a brocon who fucks Renji because she can smell Byakuya's scent from all the times Byakuya beat Renji up.
>>288678009>renjis name meaning second love meaning she was in love with someone else in story, most likely kaienWait, you're right KEKKKKI never realized it but 恋次 literally means "next love". So Kubo showing that Rukia was in love with Kaien and then Ichigo ambiguously but she couldn't spare a thought for him wasn't a coincidence after all.
People always invent crazy headcanons when their ships don't happen
cute family
>>288677929>He could've pressed her to refuse the offer and that was that.He could. And that would be a selfish decision that would deprive her of life without hardship, which he actively argues against in THIS VERY SCENE.>This doesn't look like genuine care to me at all.Well, it is.>You don't angrily shout at the person you love to just die already when she's on death's row, no matter the context.You do, actually. Stressful situations make people cope in odd ways.>See pic related.Social masks.>>288677963I phrased it poorly. Chad and Orihime being Fullbringers is a misconception.>onfirmed in the novelsLol. Lmao even.>on kubos q&aActually, it's the countrary, and the latest answer about Chad's armor proves it even more.
>>288678074>Ichigo and Rukia happily married post-divorce after they got custody, visualizedOnly real Kubologists have figured this out
>>288677024>doesn't do anything to save her from death's rowThat is false. In the first place he tried that wouldn't get into more trouble helping Ichigo when they were to capture her.When he realized that Byakuya wouldn'tn try to reduce her sentence, he was upset thinking what he could do, because is not so easy to go against 13 captains way stronger than you. He was moody thinking about Rukia's situation, as Kira and Hinamori commened there. Disobeying orders, he removed his vice-captain badge, giving up with that his position as a vice-captain, to fight Ichigo because he blamed him and because he thought he still had Rukia's powers, and Renji wanted to return them to her. His fight with Ichigo inspired him to fight Byakuya knowing he was probably going to lose, but he had to try it.You can't understand that this is how a good, complex and relatable, character is written.
>>288665604>be Renji>nut inside your sundress-wearing tomboy childhood friend>normally people would cheer for you>but you're not some mutant shinigami/hollow/quincy/fullbringer so people get mad at you>people wish someone else nuts into your tomboyBeing Renji is suffering.
>>288678074Only Orihime is missing.
>>288678066yup, this is something renrukifags found out in the early shipping days. the ones i interacted with firmly believe kaien was her first love while renji is her second
>>288678109He still got her pregnant in the end.
>>288678087chad and orihime are fullbringers, the translated question and answer have been shared multiple times on here
>>288678121I thought they were in denial about that fact? You know, since it's a slippery slope from there to admitting Kubo was doing the same but with Ichigo.
>>288678103yes and isshin is the one holding rukia like a proud father in law, she has been called his third daughter in canon after all
>>288678073If the story was coherent it'd be fine, but the retcons happened chapter to chapter. Like how at first Renji and Byakuya had the masks on and their characters and relationship wasn't even established yet which is clear from the OOC dialogue. Then Renji is introduced as a sadistic hothead, and then he does a 180 and only wants to arrest Rukia.
>>288678066>I never realized it but 恋次 literally means "next love"Doesn't the order of kanji suggest that his name should be translated as "The one who follows love"?
>>288678179Shippers are never satisfied.
>>288677024<and even verbally abuses herDo you have any reading comprehension skills?
>>288678164>theyi dont think its a good idea to lump fans of something all together. i interacted with renrukifags on a different site and they believed rukia was in love with kaien, was developing something for ichigo but it wasnt serious and fell in love with renji at some point after they reunited. one believed that it happened off-screen after the war, another believed in happened sometime between the fullbringer arc. idk what other renrukifags are saying
>>288678073People invent crazy headcanons over everythingMy stance is simple: Renji and Rukia fucking suck as a couple, and it depends on both of them acting out of character at multiple points in the story. Ichigo and Orihime are just plain boring as a couple, and would have been way better if they had any kind of relationship besides "there is mutual attraction" and if Orihime had a bit more personality. With those two in mind, Rukia and Ichigo had a genuinely fun and believable relationship, so if anyone's dating anyone it should be them. That's all there is to it. I just think what we got was shitty writing.
>>288678179>but the retcons happened chapter to chapterIt's called prol progression, chuckenuts. You naturally add new information each chapter.And "retcon" is not a swear word. They're bad only when they introduce plotholes. And despite popular belief, retcons in bleach rarely do.
>>288678226Crazy
>>288665604I really don't understand anyone shipping them past the SS arc, i feel like you gotta be some sort of mongoloid to do so.
>>288678267Crazy that Bleach had really badly written romance?
>>288678182No, that's not how Japanese really works. It's like how Kazui's name means "brave one" even though the kanji aren't ordered that way.
>>288678311Does Bleach even have any good writing?
>>288678282Can we ger a clear definition of shipping here? Not that I think you're using it wrong, it just occurred to me that things might be better with some more precision.
>>288678226The thing about Ichiruki is that it's hard to imagine them not happening because of what they mean to each other in story. They changed each others world, and have the most fleshed-out bond out of all the nakama so it's no surprise that a lot of people shipped them. We even have a scene where Ichigo recites what Rukia told him to his dad because they gave him that much comfort, we have a scene where Rukia can tell from Ichigo's eyes alone that something awful happened during final Ulquiorra battle because his "eyes aren't one of a victor". Renruki have their emotional shared past, but they don't have emotionally-driven moments the rest of the manga, Kubo refused to build on it. Ichihime has the only canon one-sided love which is a plus, some emotionally-driven moments in the HM arc and we see them getting closer as nakama, but that's really it. I do think Kubo would have benefitted from giving Renruki more moving moments that fans would care about, and having Ichigo think about how Orihime changed his world in some way, Kubo should have had Orihime be his safe haven in the human world.
>>288678376Well...No...
>>288678146>the translated question and answer have been shared multiple times on hereYes, and I'll repost it again>Q152>チャドと織姫の完現術の名前がXCUTIONと違って英語ではないのは何故ですか？ 先生は陣営によってネーミングに用いる言語を使い分けていたので気になりました。>Why Chad's and OIrihime's Fullbrings are not named in English, like in XCUTION? I'm interested because you use different languages for each faction.>A152.>2人は特別枠なのでそれぞれの母語で名前がついてます。>Those two are of a separate framework, so they're named in the characters' mother tongues.He literally says they're not Fullbringers.And the recent answer about Chad's armour being able to cover more parts of his body proves it even more: Fullbrings don't evolve.On top of that, literally nothing in the manga suggests that they're Fullbringers.>No reason to believe that their parents were attacked by a Hollow>It's said many times in the text that their powers come from Ichigo (which makes them closer to being Schrifts)>Neither of them used Fullbringer abilities like Soul Manipulation or Bringer Lights, despite Chad training with XCUTION for weeks.>Chad wans't given XCUTION membership despite training with them for weeks
>>288677024>>tries to stop the guy trying to save her like a delusional idiot when that won't change anything about her sentenceHe didn't tried to stop him, Renji didn't wanted to avoid Rukia's rescue, because Renji wasn't fighting for the SS anymore. Renji told Ichigo it was impossible to confront so many captains and vice-captains and rescue her. That was what Renji himself had been telling to himself and because of those he was moody and desperate. In his despair he blamed Ichigo of Rukia's situation and his anger was directed at him, and he also thought Ichigo still had her powers.
>>288678325And Ichigo's name is "The one who Protects", so it can go both ways.
>>288678087>He could. And that would be a selfish decision that would deprive her of life without hardship, which he actively argues against in THIS VERY SCENE.Rukia would've 100% preferred hardship with her friend, quote-on-quote "love", than what she got. Goes back to my old point he didn't understand her feelings.>Well, it is.Sure.>You do, actually. Stressful situations make people cope in odd ways.>Social masks.Man, Renji apologists are something else>>288678108Renji himself said that Ichigo will die, she'll get her powers back, and then she'll be executed. Assume he killed Ichigo there. Then what? It is retarded and selfish. He went against the Gotei anyway at the end, but only after Ichigo whooped his ass.>>288678201Do you? Rukia clearly didn't like being told that; she flinches and looks sad afterwards. I assume pic related doesn't count either by your logic?
renruki and sasusaku and that one fairy tail where the guy chained the girl to a tree after beating her up all are ships made for women but funnily enough women preferred ichiruki
>>288678201>the whole she was held hostage she spoke about ichigoKUBOOOOOOOOOOO
>>288678402Very true
>>288678479Renruki and ichiruki aren't female gaze ships at all, or at least in the same way sasusaku and gajevy are. Bleach only had one popular ship like that, and you can tell by the content its fans made for it.
>>288678471>Rukia would've 100% preferred hardship with her friendPerhaps she would. But again, social strata. If you get an offer from nobility, it's not actually an offer you can turn down.>Man, Renji apologists are something elseTou're the one who can't read the next page >>288678201 where they cope with stressful situation.Lack of reading comprehension is the bane of this society.>>288678504>Not even a mention or allusion to IchigoDelusion is strong with this one.
You couldn't pay to read all of this pitiful emotional blubbery. How many times are we going to hae this conversation? Ichigo and Rukia never wanted to spend beddy bye together. Ichigo left her in SS happily. Kubo even said they were more than friends and less than lovers and IR still swear on their personally made deathbed that he tricked or cheated them, there is no help for these sad sacks of whiny femjuices.
>>288678571>Renruki and ichiruki aren't female gaze ships at allrenruki had the abusive angle in the beginning and ichiruki had the bickering lovers angle thats immensely popular in manga aimed at women especially back in the early 2000s
>>288678571Are there any female gaze ships where the man and woman are equals instead of this?
>>288678597>Delusion is strong with this one.I forgot which character confirms it, but Renji or Hanataro have a line about how Ichigo is all she spoke about and that she was smiling a lot.
>OMG they're arguing they're sooo in love!
>>288677024>never apologizes for any of this, while Byakuya did and even Rukia apologized to KukakuApologize about what? Renji didn't tried to kill her or supported her death sentence. He captured her in a mission, and he tried she wouldn't get into more trouble helping Ichigo. Rukia perfectly knows that, and she is a shinigami too, if she had to arrest Renji who was trying to make things worse for him, she would do the same as him.Do you know who said sorry to Renji? Yes, Rukia. Use your brain to understand why Rukia has a scene apologizing to Renji, about her not sharing her problems with him.
>>288678625>Are there any female gaze ships where the man and woman are equals instead of this?ichigo and rukia, winry and ed, ran and conan, inuyasha and kagome, frieren and himmel
>>288678616Yeah, at the beginning. Afterwards, Renji and Rukia act like best buds. Same with Ichigo and Rukia. And tons of guys liked Ichiruki, what do you mean? It's just that shipping is dominated by women regardless, but some are more than other. Very few men actually are fans of genuinely female gaze ships.>>288678625The power imbalance is part of the appeal.
>>288678631It was Hanatarou. And of course she would. She's on the death row for sharing powers with him, she got him killed for the best of her knowledge. Sitting in a solitary cell don't provide many topics to think about, I presume. That's the point of solitary cells.
>>288678679renji should have apologized for choking her and taunting her while being held captive desu>>288678691>And tons of guys liked Ichirukia ship so good even the male fans like it...based
>>288678658>nisekoi>maid-sama>ranma 1/2>basically the blueprint for tsundere love storiesi mean idk what to say but people love this trope
>>288678719>renji should have apologized for choking herWhy? Not like it was the last time he was gonna do it.
Every Bleach thread is just shippers crying.
>>288678756>idk what to sayHow about "what the fuck?"
>>288678764ichirukifags cry about not happening, renrukifags and ichihimefags cry about their ships not being the preferred ones, ulquihimefags cry cause ulquiorra is dead
>>288678764>Every Bleach thread is just angry femcels crying.ftfy
>>288678764That's because there's nothing else meaningful to discuss. Worldbuilding? It's barebones.
>>288678764Case in point
>>288665604Crazy how this was the most obvious potential primary couple in Shounen history and it never happened.Even Goku got to pat Bulma's crotch that one time.
>>288678801>Canon pairings are somehow not preferredIchiRuki tears are the reason ocean levels are rising.>>288678804>Worldbuilding? It's barebones.But enough about Naruto. It's a Bleach thread.
>>288677024>>admits that Ichigo is one who brought them together at the end like a cuckYou are so bitter, lolRenji and Rukia were going to talk and regain their relationship when Renji was appointed vice-captain. Ichigo only complicated everything. Renji is too kind saying that.
remember when kubo drew the original gotei 13 and gave us the most bare bone lore for them...kek and people really think hes going to create a whole new arc after 5+ years meanwhile jjk got an immediate spinoff, same with naruto
>>288678836>IchiRuki tears are the reason ocean levels are rising.kek you must not use other sites. many bleachfags bitch and complain on the daily, orihimefags are seething over orihime not being in the new collab >>288676485.
>>288678815Goku and Bulma was never ever going to happen either, something it has in common with Ichiruki.
>>288678066>renjis name meaning second loveNext love means that Renji was the next love interest Kubo introduced in the story after Orihime.
>>288678852>I will scared her by saying: "I'm a vice-captain"This is hilarious when you cut back to their meeting, where he threatens her with death, and nothing is said about his status. Kubo really tried his hardest to retcon Renji's first appearance and pretend it never happened, all for it to turn out in vain, since even Ichihime was more popular when the manga was running than this crappy ship.
>>288678571Ulquihime is built for female gaze tho. Most of the fans who shipped it were girls self-inserting as Orihime to fix the cute emo boy.
>>288678883>SJ: Do you have any plans to make Ichigo and Rukia a couple?>Kubo: I'm not going to confirm nor deny that. [laughs]eh theres this. i can believe that he always wanted ichihime cause she got the only canon love but i dont think he cares if people ship ichiruki together desu. he if comes across ichiruki fan content i doubt he would throw a fit like ichihimefags tend to do. he doesnt seem invested in romance at all, theres nothing stopping him from throwing out some ichihime content on his fanclub but he doesnt
>>288678876>many bleachfags bitch and complain on the dailyHave you heard about Zipf distribution? Applying it to Bleach fandom, the most amout of bitching comes from the less amount of fans. Literally dozens of salty IchiRukis crying day and night for a decade is not a metric of universal disapproval.
>>288678945>Literally dozens of salty IchiRukis crying day and night for a decade is not a metric of universal disapproval.Well thats how popular the ship was.
>>288678182That makes a lot of sense because Renji's story in the manga is exactly that, he wanted to recover her loved one Rukia
>>288678960>Well thats how popular the ship was.Exactly. Dozens of fans. Amazing numbers.
>>288678924>since even Ichihime was more popular when the manga was running than this crappy ship.Renji surpassing Orihime in popularity plays a part in this. There's a reason Renruki got the wedding novel, and not Ichihime.
>>288678074Renji's arms btw
>>288678989Lmao
>>288678978I still think it's the most popular, I'm not sure what would come in second, maybe Ichihime. I think Renruki is still far behind which is funny because it was in the top 3 in an official pairing poll at the start.
>>288678989i like to think its isshin and we're both to imagine out headcanons
>>288677674>He knew Rukia wanted to stay with him, that's allIn my opinion, at that time, they both already knew there was something romantic going on between them.
>>288678987I don't think Kubo ever cared about popularity, otherwise he would've brought back Ulquiorra and Gin. He probably gave them the wedding first since Renruki's relationship progressed faster than Ichihime's.
>>288679002Textbook definition of delusion right here.
>>288678944>eh theres thisThere's what lmfao I can't understand the IR goggles, Kubo saying I won't spoil my manag is as close as it gets to canon to you? I mean fucking kek, you tell yourself whatever helps you cope with your failed ship, but Kubo straight up said more than friends less than lovers. He made it clear at multiple different times that they aren't in love lol.
>has a paid fanclub where he can draw anything he wants>doesnt draw anything for renruki or ichihimewhy are you guys always arguing? he clearly doesnt care about romance, whether its canon or fanon. you guys are defending ships, canon or fanon, that he couldnt care less about. he just wanted a next generation death and strawberry
How many fucking girls are in this thread right now? I mean fuck they're cartoon characters. They don't have "feelings" at all.
>>288678852>"It's rotating>If they say destiny is gears"What does that mean?
We're getting raided by pinterest and tumblr at the same time.
>>288679056Do you think that Ichihime has surpassed Ichiruki in popularity? Rukia is far more popular than Orihime which alone would put Ichiruki ahead. I don't think you understand how popular IR is in China and Korea, you only have a taste of fans from outside Asia. It's like how Toshiro isn't popular in the West, but a top 3 character in Japan. Same with how Aizen is really popular here, but doesn't make the top 10 in Japan.
>>288679086A really fucking horrible translation trying to say shit's going down.
Cannot wait for july to come so shipfags can drown in actual discussion about Bleach.
>muh popularityEvery time. Next they're gonna start talking about Ichigo and Rukia cheating on their spouses.
>>288679147WTF is that?
>>288678571Not all Ulquihime content plays up the abusive angle, and I would argue it's not even the majority that does. A lot of it is just angsty or even happy, since their relationship in canon is tragic.
if bleach had a worldwide poll these would be the top 10 in no order>ichigo>rukia>toshiro>ulquiorra>grimmjow>byakuya>gin>urahara (relies on fans from overseas)>aizen (same as above)>kenpachiaizen and urahara are the only outliers when it comes to western and japanese fans. gin and ulquiorra are really popular among nips, gins bankai got third favorite in the klub poll i think
>>288679184You find great pics in active Bleach threads.
>>288679187obsessed over one mythic pairing type out of fourteen whatever does it for you.So how many alternate earths are firepits right now in b4 kek based rofl cuck.
>>288665604It's been ten (10) years since the manga ended holy shit.. move the fuck on>muh animeEnding soon and Kubo is never ever returning to the teased Hell arc
>>288679154>orihimefag still seething that rukia mogs her in every single way20+ years and still going lmao
>>288665604Best girl
No, we have various statements where Renji's voice actors says Renji is in love with Rukia.Even in his recent interview this year, he said "Renji's feelings for Rukia hasn't changed"
>>288679235There's nothing else to talk about
>>288679263>various statements>one statementkek
>>288677221>>288679263
Me and my bloodthirsty feudal Japan swordsman ghost girlfriend eating together.
does anyone remember the name of that chinese bleach artist who shipped ichiruki and drew the most beautiful fanart? this is a work by her >>288676413
>>288679272"She is the one he fell in love with""Renji's feelings for Rukia haven't changed"
>>288676413>heroineRukia was just a female protagonist, Kubo stated Orihime was the heroine.
>>288679332Heroine, female lead, and female protagonist all mean the same thing lol. If you were to ask the random Bleachfag who the heroine/female lead is to Ichigos hero/male lead, they'll say Rukia.
>>288679231What did anon mean by this?
>>288679086Destiny has its own paths to arrive at the same place, changing things on the way. And that is what happened in this chapter. Despite you can have the best plans, everything can go wrong and complicate things.
>>288679122>Do you think that Ichihime has surpassed Ichiruki in popularity?I don't care. You keep arguing as if I was an IchiHime supporter. >Rukia is far more popular than Orihime which alone would put Ichiruki ahead.Why not RenRuki?>I don't think you understand how popular IR is in China and KoreaI couldn't care less about China or Korea. And again, Zipfs' distribution. You can't reliably gauge popularity from the amount of bitching on the Internet: retards and whiners derail everything. Example: this thread.> It's like how Toshiro isn't popular in the West, but a top 3 character in Japan. Same with how Aizen is really popular here, but doesn't make the top 10 in Japan.These polls don't reflect China and Korea as well.
>>288679433>These polls don't reflect China and Korea as well.they all pretty much have the same taste, not trying to be racist lol. they love toshiro on weibo
>>288679269>What's so important about Katagiri's bloodline? >What's the deal with Izumi's scar? >Why Ukitake is still alive in the anime? >What do visions of Gerard's and Nakk Le Varr's demise in Senjumaru's Bankai have to do with their eventual defeat? >That's the deal with Uryuu's eye-related powers? >Will the Visored job again or will finally prove their worth? >What's the deal with Rangiku and Gerard? >What new content can possibly fill five new episodes?Pick a topic.
>>288665604
After many years I have finally realised I don't like anything after soul society and I only kept reading because I remembered loving Substitute Shinigami
>>288677826>>288677768This brings up another point of how terribly Renji and Rukia, Ichigo and Orihime were written. We barely see them interact.
>>288679469>Will the Visored job again or will finally prove their worth?The Visored and jobbing go hand in hand like PB & J. It is beyond me why Kubo has such a fetish with bloating his character roster.
What's Souken's real surname?
>>288679358Kubo considers heroine = love interest, not the female protag.
>>288678987Renji was always more popular than Orihime. Renji always had way more merchandise than her.
>>288679320https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/122333851This is their pixiv account.
Do newfags just don't know how popular Renji was back in the days? His fight with Ichigo had millions of views on YouTube.
>>288678924Rather you don't know to interpret what you read.People are especially unable to understand Kubo's style of writting
>>288679509>Picked the less interesting one.You're not even trying.
>>288679691Don't put such low-hanging fruit in there next time. Nobody is expecting anything out of them.
>>288679712>Nobody is expecting anything out of them.Visored fans do.
>>288679601What does that have to do with anything?
>>288679734All six of them. And I'm not counting the Shinji fangirls in this, they just care about him and Hiyori.
>>288678719He did't choke her to hurt her, he was preventing her to go to help Ichigo. And they both were taunting the other when Rukia was in prison, but not in a malicious mode.There's nothing to apologize for. Rukia understands this, You should too.
>>288679237there's no way you're serious
>>288679498You're a retard for taking so long to realize that then. Now go away.
>>288679469Who gives a single flying fuck about any of that shit at all?
>>288679861Not IchiRukis, that's for sure.
>>288679861Me.
>>288679848Well I just don't think about Bleach very much
>Please care about bleach>0 resultsGuys, I'm worried. Where's he? Is he alright?
>>288679902It's the IRfag, xhe decided to have a melty today instead of coping about no one caring about the show or the ending.
>>288679549I know he called her the heroine, his editor too, but I really don't think the fandom at large sees it that way. I do think the majority see Ichigo and Rukia as the hero and heroine. It's hard not to when Kubo is always singling them out and female protag is just another way to say female lead/heroine. Orihime is a secondary main character and the love interest, but that's it.
>>288679872Pick one then.
>>288679601Zabimaru was cool but all I remember were people (mostly fangirls) wanking to Byakuya and Gin
>>288679875Then leave.
>>288678009>ichigo got the biggest panel during her would be final moments in the ss arcBut Rukia is not in love with Ichigo, said by Kubo himself, so why do you think that has any importance for Rukia's romantic feelings?>didnt spare him a thought during the as nodt battle meanwhile she thought of ichigo orihime and byakuyaThat means Ichigo is on the same category as Byakuya and Orihime for Rukia. But Renji is special, and the fear that she was afraid the most it was about him. You know Kubo is hinting at something here but you don't want to see it, lol, or maybe you are too obtuse.>>renjis name meaning second love meaning she was in love with someone else in story, most likely kaienKubo himself explained in the second databook that the puts in the names one kanji that gets people's attention. that makes he think why they have that kanji. In Renji's case, that Kanji is 恋 = romantic love. What did Kubo mean introducing in the story a character that is very close to Rukia with that name? Uhm..
>>288680076renji names means second love.......
kubo said thank you to ichiruki and all the extras kek
>106° outsideSOMEONE TELL THIS NIGGER YAMAMOTO TO TURN OFF HIS BANKAI NOOOWWWW
>>288678431I hope in cour 4 Chad uses bringer light to fight the statues just so you kill yourself. A whole fucking episode of chad smash statues.
>>288680126恋 = love, but this kanji is spefically used for romantic love.>Kubo: I wanted one part of their names to have an impact. It's all about how it sounds or how it looks. I wanted a hook somewhere in their names. Ichigo is an unusual name for a boy. Orihime also has the word "hime" (princess) in her name so that might make you go "hmm?" Yasutora has "tora" (tiger) in his name. I also wanted one kanji in their names with a lot of stroke counts (lol). It just looks better from a design perspective when the characters names are all lined up.
>>288680152Do you mean Kubo considers Ichigo and Rukia the main characters and the face of Bleach? Incredible.
>>288680006Renji had the first place in the first shinigami poll in 2004, and they added a short video with the characters of the poll at the end of the Jump festa anime tour DVD ( the first Bleach OVA):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgysv9coQrI
>>288680993Hitsugaya almost beat him, he was already rapidly rising in the polls. Both had many more votes than to the others.
>>288665604Am I the only one who thought Ichigo and Tatsuki would be a thing? I didn’t really consider Rukia because Ichigo called her an old lady and I thought they had a mentor/elder sister type of vibe while with Orihime I thought her feelings were a jokey sort of thing. I am saying this as someone who watched the anime and stopped at the Rukia retrieval arc though.
>>288665637>Cana
>>288679209>worldwide pollLike Naruto? Lol, that one was hijickated.And most polls aren't that accurate about a character's popularity in general. A character can have a very active group of fans who can make that characters is always being talked about, voting massively in polls, or various good fanartists making many good drawings with many likes because the art is good.
>>288679584her bleach art is legendary>>288681911>And most polls aren't that accurate about a character's popularity in general.the bleach ones are pretty accurate, ichigo and rukia are probably the most popular worldwide. toshiro might surpass them depending on the country, he wouldnt in america. the viz one from 2022 shows urahara as super popular and thats generally true among online fandom. all in all the latest polls we've gotten in the last few years whether it be fights or bankai or character have been accurate to what we see online.
>>288679068He doesn't care to draw about any type of relationship, friendship, family, either, because most of his drawings in the fan club are of one character standing alone.
Ichigo that fought Ulq vs the top 3 Espada? It's hard to imagine him struggling at all with Harribel.
>>288678804What about the mv that they are going to release tomorrow
>>288682031ok so what about his twitter sketches? he drew ichigo rukia kazui and ichika together. whats stopping him from dropping an ichigo orihime and kazui pic? he doesnt really seem interested at all in the pairings he went with, i think it would have been the same with ichiruki if he went down that way desu. the canon pairings i think were a means to an end, death and strawberry part 2
>>288678719Tons of guys like ichihime. Ichiruki fans are mostly girls
I told yall this is a bot thread and the one schizo spamming threads is all the same person. All bleach discussion has been hijacked by bots. They’re stealing my arguments as an oldfag and using them now. Holy shit the internet is dead. I come back and see the same algorithm again and again.
>>288680993Did he lose popularity? All his latest tybw fights flopped along with Uryu’s. Also there’s no excuse for this, every other fight scene hit millions of views.
>>288677642how many children they have with Gigi after timeskip?
>>288682403He's sterile
>>288668901>>288671292>>288671312None of that shit matters. Turn Rukia into a dude, none of that shit changes. Characters aren't real people, they're tools for telling a story. Rukia was created to give Ichigo shinigami powers and explain the setting to him. Orihime was created to go "Kurosaki-kun" and blush whenever he touches her hand. Why? Because she's his baby maker. That's her reason for existing. Characters aren't people, they're tools and every time you see a "useless" character, just remember the author spent hours drawing that fucker after spending even more time coming up with them in his head - for nothing? No, they serve a purpose. Orihime is the Love Interest. That's just her character. It doesn't matter how much time he spends writing romance or whether they have the best chemistry or anything like that - NONE of that matters. She was created to like Ichigo so at the end of the story he could like her back and the MC could have some children in the epilogue. That's it. This is not complicated. I don't know why you're making it complicated.I'm willing to bet you retards also thought Naruto wouldn't end up with Hinata and you watched Twilight and rooted for the werewolf kid and you had a meltdown when Togashi said Gon would end up with the girl from Whale Island and you probably refuse to accept that Luffy is plowing Hancock. Why do these characters exist, guys? Use your brain. Think. For once, please, I'm begging you. Stop being a childish consumer and put yourself in the big boy shoes: WHY DID THE AUTHOR CREATE A FEMALE CHARACTER THAT SIMPS FOR THE MALE LEAD? Rub those fucking neurons together, you can do it! I believe in you!Also, Ichigo and Rukia are literally Yusuke and Botan knockoffs and they didn't end up together either. How would that even work? One's a short-lived human and the other's a nigh immortal ghost. Can she have babies? If not, what use is she? She doesn't even have a vagina, she has to buy an onahole.
Wait if soul king god who made soul king?
>>288678402This is not a romance story. Kubo put Ichigo and Rukia's relationship at the front, like Naruto has him and Sasuke. It's a shonen where happens that the main characters are a male and a female. Every Ichigo and Rukia's interaction is not there to show a romantic connection. This is not Inuyasha.Renruki has enough moving moments and more romantic moments than ichiruki. Renji and Rukia has a break up scene, 40 years apart because they had different social status, Rukia crying for him, scenes of reconciliation, many comedy scenes with them, Renji has carried Rukia bridal style, Tarzan style. pressed her against his chest. Kubo has written their story in a pretty romantic way. I think people often forget all the moments that Rukia and Renji have had in the manga.Ichigo doesn't need that Orihime change his world, that is not necessary for a romantic relationship. Rukia changed Ichigo's world because she gave him the powers he wanted. There is nothing romantic here. Ichigo only needs to want to be with Orihime because he feels at easy with her, he enjoys to be with her , and because he likes her. That is what is really being in love.
>>288678226I don't agree at all.I unable to see romance with Ichigo and Rukia. With Renji and Rukia was really easy, they have the most relatable romantic story, it feels the most real.The problem I have with Ichigo and Orihime is Ichigo, he is very aromantic. He should at least to care a little to pursue a girl he like.
>>288678218I've never seen real renruki fans saying that Rukia was in love with Kaien or that she felt something for Ichigo.
>>288677606?Renji went against the status since the moment he removed his vice-captain badge.It's incredible the lack of reading comprehension skills, and it's going to worse. It's very tired to discuss evidence with people who can barely understand what they are reading.
>>288677501>He can't go against ordersRenji removed his vice-captain badge and it went to fight Ichigo disobeying orders, precisely because he wasn't fighting for the SS. It was a personal matter.
>>288682403Gigi isn't a sexual predator
>>288677352Isshin was in a gigai turning him in a human to sabe Masaki. He couldn't come back or she was going to die.Rukia wanted to be a good shinigami woman like her idol Miyako. And, of course she wanted to be with her regained relationships Byakuya and Renji. She barely knew Ichigo for two months.
>>288681968>the viz one from 2022That is the worst and less credible poll
>>288681968>we see onlineOn line are only the most rabid fans, not the normal fans who aren't that passionate to bother to write online
>>288681681>as someone who watched the animeThey changed Orihime a lot in the anime. They changed her scenes too.
quick post crackships
The reason why everyone wants Rukia to be with Ichigo and not Renji is because everyone wants to be Ichigo and nobody wants to be Renji. Orihime is so boring and hard to care about that I forgot she was even there for most of the series. She's a woman with big tits. That's her character. Even if Rukia had a penis I'd still rather be with Rukia.
>>288677677Feel like alot of anons sleep on Tier.
>>288684491No, it's because Ichigo is the main character, this would guarantee Rukia's importance and panel time in the manga.Ichigo is way more boring than Orihime, and I've read many ichiruki fans showing they don't care about Ichigo.
>>288672761This foid is still seething?
>>288684616Ichigo is overpowered, tall, attractive, naturally gifted, easy going. He's not that interesting as a character on his own, but why wouldn't you want to be Ichigo? If Rukia is going to be with anyone it should be someone I can self insert as.
>>288684173I keep on forgetting these two have never met.
>>288684653Most ichiruki fans are girls. What they want it's Focus on Rukia, they don't care much about Ichigo.
>>288685039I could not possibly care less what women think. I just want to be a chad and fuck rukia.
>>288685039That explains everything.
Who has the cock of the soul king?
>>288685068pedo
>>288685365Me.
>>288685796>owning another man's cockKinda gay.
Ichigoat lowkey the only shonen mc i respect and look up to, naruto is a gay deadbeat, luffy is a man child, and goku is all of the above.
>>288685958>cries at his opponent dying
>>288665637Why does Naruto avoid this shit and do good?
>>288685958>gay deadbeat>Literally is the reason his wife and child have a house.Fucking retard.
>>288684491Wrong. Orihime is the ultimate woman, that's why everybody wants to be with her.
>>288679601Consider the following: I don't care.
>>288686183t. Ichigo
>>288686115He was canonically too poor to take his future wife on a proper date and said wife also comes from a powerful influential clan and could easily afford a place on her own.
Why is he licking her like a popsicle?
These threads are made by the same 1 IRfaggot that seethes about Renji's introduction in the manga.
My head canon is Aizen wasn't just planning to kill the soul king, but planning to fight Ywach as well. Hollows counter Quincy. His illusion ability can fight Ywach. He gained the power of "Truth" after absorbing the Hougyoku, and claimed to be a Zanpakuto. Zanpakuto's can become way stronger in the Palace, and "Truth" in theory should counter the Almighty which changes reality, a contradiction of truth. The arrow Uryu used was made from the Soul King.In other words he had a hard counter to the Almighty through deceiving his senses and the truth, could have become way stronger, and could have made a weapon to kill him from the soul king, all while having a hollow army that could deal with his quincies. My head canon is he would have won if Ichigo didn't stop him, and Ywach was also using Ichigo, he gave him "Final Getsuga Tenshu" to take down Aizen before he could reach the Soul Palace and become way stronger and build his weapons.The entire Bleach series was a proxy war between Ywach, Urahara, and Aizen using Ichigo.
>>288685958Toriko is a Giga Chad with knowledge of his craft, which is hunting. He reminds me of Z Goku more before Super made him a retard.
>>288672761Kek, I knew this artist was still making IchiRuki art and stuff, which is obviously fine, whatever, but I didn't know she was this absolutely SEETHING.
>>288680424Sure. If Oirhime or Chad use core Fullbringer abilities in Cour 4, I'll concede.Otherwise, there are only three arguments for them being such>Shunshun Rikka is tied to an object>Chad's ability is Hollow in nature>Ginjo said soThe rest points to these abilities being Schrift-like powers dispensed by a Substitute Shinigami.
>>288685460Rukia is over a hundred years old and it's not like she's even a loli. Lmao. That's like saying girls who like Edward in Twilight are pedophiles.
>>288686262This. Naruto's house is just basic ass Jap apartment and doesn't even have servants. He is literally forcing his wife to do the chores. Does that make any sense at all? Naruto saved the world and people don't even have the courtesy to give him proper accommodations. But I think I know the reason why. Japs can't just get their head out of the salaryman lifestyle that they even apply it to their own stories even if it is completely illogical. No wonder Deku became a bum too. In Ichigo's case he gets a pass simply because the human world don't have a clue that he saved them.
>>288665604>TAKE HER AND RUN RENJI I DON'T WANT HER
>>288687322In order for that to be true, Aizen must know about Yhwach's existence, survival and Kaiser Gesang. And while the first two not really an Issue (Aizen was inquisitive and could realistically find things about it), the only source forKaiser Gesang would be a Wandenreich Quincy, which are, let's say, very difficult to procure. The other issue is the Shadows. If he knew about Kaiser Gesang, he'd know about the Shadows, and prepare counter for them. Unfortunally, Las Noches has a giant ass artificial light.On top of that, Hollow counter is not that big of a counter ,actually: a Hollow can't poison a Quincy with Blut Vene on. A Quincy Final Boss was in Kubo's mind since forever (Aizen was supposed to be him initially). So no, I don't think that Aizen was even considering Yhwach as a factor in his plans.
>>288687429>Naruto grew up in poverty>Now has a person who was groomed to become a head of a noble house doing his choresA win is a win.
>>288678431>Those two are of a separate framework, so they're named in the characters' mother tongues.Because they don't fit the English theme of the Fullbringers, their Fullbringers were enhanced by the Hogyoku and weren't Xcution members either.>No reason to believe that their parents were attacked by a HollowWe barely know anything about Orihime's parents and nothing about Chad's.>It's said many times in the text that their powers come from Ichigo (which makes them closer to being Schrifts)That was retconned. They are Fullbringers enhanced by the Hogyoku.>Neither of them used Fullbringer abilities like Soul Manipulation or Bringer Lights, despite Chad training with XCUTION for weeks.They're definitely using Bringer Light in TYBW, because they're standing on air.>Chad wans't given XCUTION membership despite training with them for weeksI don't think that's any indication he wasn't a Fullbringer, especially since his powers were explicitly said to be a Fullbring.
>>288687924>That was retconned. They are Fullbringers enhanced by the Hogyoku.It wasn't. Hougyoku is not some kind of Wishmaster. It's a probability fudger. All it does is arrange circumstances for success, but the desired outcome should be possible in the first place. Shinigami can Hollowfy, a Shinigami can achieve Transcendance, a Shinigami can lose their powers, Substitute Shinigami can give powers and normal people can receive powers from them. However, Urahara wasn't able to undo Hollowficaion on the Visored, no matter how hard he tried. Aizen steel needed a Juureichi to create an Ouken, despite having Arrancar worth millions of souls at his disposal. It's impossible. >They're definitely using Bringer Light in TYBW, because they're standing on air.Bringer Lights, like most of the core abilities, have distinct visuals and/or sound. The way Orihime and Chad stand on air produces none. >I don't think that's any indication he wasn't a Fullbringer, especially since his powers were explicitly said to be a Fullbring.By Ginjo of all people. And why not give Chad a membership? The whole idea of XCUTION was to lure Ichigo in and steal his powers. Giving Chad a membership would only ease Ichigo into trusting them more.
>>288669539>Something so small…>…is what I’ll say out loud so they don’t suspect that I already created my own virtually identical looking Hou-gyoku decades ago.Fucking retcons. Kubo is such a complete hack.
>>288688760Aizen is always pretending. He loves to do that. Because of that he has that type of zanpakuto.
>>288688894He would love to be an actor
>>288688894Just like Bleachfags pretend it's well-written.
>>288688760You don't marvel at things that are known to you? Like how snow is just water crystals? Or that you bear immense computing power in your pocket every day? Anyway, sure, it's a retcon. But a retcon in itself is not a bad thing, you simply can't produce a long serialised manga without retcons. Retcons are only bad when they introduce plotholes. Does this one introduce a plothole? You think it is, I think that it doesn't and to say something like this is in Aizen's character. The whole sceen of Aizen revealing things to Ichigo and the gang actually introduces at least one plot hole, but nobody's bitching about it, instead tyou have to invent stuff by taking lines and panels out of context.
>>288688760>>288689221To be completely fair, English translation leaves more space for maneuver.In Japanese he says: >・・・驚いたな。こんな小さなもなのか・・・>I'm surprised. A thing this small..?Which once again, can still be interpreted as marvelling at the fact that such a powerful thing is confined to such a small form. Or that Aizen expected for it to be bigger, because Urahara's Hougyoku is core complete. Retcon is a retcon. Does it introduce a plot hole, or was a retcon thought out properly (or can it be explained away without any harm to the narrative) is an entirely different matter.
>>288689289>because Urahara's Hougyoku is more complete. Correction.
>>288675240Built for using her twintails like handlebars during sex.
Ichigo's love interest in the novel
>>288675877>kubo wanted to go against the "hero with heroine" pairing for some reason
New MV in less than an hour
>>288689656>Narita and Kubo pandering to fujoshi made the novel sell out so they're reprintingMy question is, how come nobody is talking about the content even though it released over a week ago?
>>288689684Because, unlike the other novels, this novel has nothing canon to speculate about.
>>288689705>muh canonBleachfags are no fun at all.
>>288689684>Fujoshi-oriented AU fanficFigure out for yourself,>>288689705The rest of the novels has nothing canon to speculate about either.
Ichigo cared so much about Rukia that there was an entire arc devoted to saving her.
>>288689750There is an entire arc devoted to saving Orihime. Your point?
>>288689745It's not just fujoshit, they're pandering to canon and fanon het ships too, like HitsuHina or UlquiHime.
>>288689745>The rest of the novels has nothing canon to speculate about either.Kubo himself gave the writers canon data. The writing itsel is not canon but the data, events, new zapakutos, etc, are
Personally, I prefer Orihime x Isshin
>>288689788>canon>HitsuHina>Ulquiorra and Orihime being acquaintances in this universe is somehow pandering to the ship
>>288689788>It's not just that one kind of shit, it's a antire shit buffet!Oh boy, can't wait!>>288689794While it's true, that Kubo did give Narita some pointers towards lore, the way these pointers were built upon are utter nonsense, from beginning to the end. Whole idea layers, like Fullbringer powers stemming from Soul King parts, Soul King and Primordial World lore, Tsunayashiro, Ginjo, Bambies stories, everything is either extremely retarded or contradicts the manga, TYBW anime or Kubo's Q&A. All these fanfics are attempts to resolve unresolved storylines in Bleach, done in the most absurdly cliché manner its unreal. And no way Kubo had any hand in making Shuuhei a protagonist.
>>288689869Holy cope. That's just because many of Kubo's ideas are utter nonsense and they resolve unresolved storylines in the most absurdly cliché manner. He's infamous for changing his mind about things and retconning stuff willy nilly. If you somehow think stuff like the magical SK nails belonged to Narita instead of Kubo, that's just because you don't wanna accept that's how Kubo rolls.
>>288665604ICHIGO IS ONLY 14 YEARS OLD YOU SICK FUCK!!!
>>288689765Never happened
>>288689682https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_KJnyhbOoE
>>288689901>Kubo's ideas are utter nonsense and they resolve unresolved storylines in the most absurdly cliché manner. No they're not.>He's infamous for changing his mind about things and retconning stuff willy nilly.Well, he is, but a majority of these retcons make sense in the hindsight. Narita fanfics don't.>If you somehow think stuff like the magical SK nails belonged to Narita instead of Kubo, that's just because you don't wanna accept that's how Kubo rolls.Magic nail is the tip of the iceberg, Simple thing: Soul Society (and by extension the Triplet World) was created a million years ago. Shihouin clan only had 23 heads, which would date the first head of the clan (and the clan itself) much, much younger. Yet for some reason The Five Noble Clans come from before the World was split and directly responsible for that split. Which is directly contradicted by Kubo in Q&A ("The history of the Nobles is the history of the Seireitei, not Soul Society.") and by TYBW anime, where we see the Soul King splitting the Word (which was not the Primordial World, but the Primordial Sea) into three on his own.Anything lorewise in these novels falls under the smallest scrutiny, except benign stuff where there is absolutely nothing to argue about, like Nel and Grimmjaw resquing Harribel,
>>288690037>added Ulquiorra's backstory but didn't include that part where him and Orihime are cute togetherCowards. Also, this is like the third MV recapping the Lust chapters, with Rapport and Veronica before them, what the fuck?
>>288690884That's because it's the most popular battle in Bleach even among hardcore fans on Klub, so it just makes sense to still milk it.
>>288690884Everyone knows why.
>>288690884Technically, Rapport was just about THE HEART, even if it heavily featured Ulquiorra, since he's the character personifying that theme the best. Veronica was the Arrancar arc as a whole.>>288691368I'm still laughing remembering how many fangirls thought they would get together in canon, somehow. It's like they don't understand Orihime at all. She's 100% loyal to strawberry dick.
>>288689189It's unironically Shakespeare compared to most shonen.
>>288690037>>288691368I can't believe we are getting a oficial ulquihime video after so many years
>>288689189written better than naruto and one piece
>>288691954Name 5 shonen from the last decade that are worse than Bleach and give me some brief explanations as to why>>288691995>narutoOnly if you count Burrito, otherwise no.>one piecePfftt, hahahahahahaha
>>288687561I think he considered Ichibei, because all of the Arrancar's clothing was white, and Osho couldn't use it for his advantage.
>>288692040>Only if you count Burrito, otherwise no.Lol. Lmao even.
>>288692040Bleach is the best of Big 3 by a mile. Hence why it influenced everything.Seethe and mold below pisstard:
>>288692691the only reason Bleach influenced anything is because it was such shit it made people say "i could fucking do better than that steaming turd"
>>288692060I see the logic behind it, but Ichibei can litertally paint things black, it's not really a deterrent.
How does one counter Ichibei (your name is not Yhwach with the Almighty)?
>>288692060>>288692793>Aizen recruits Tosen because he's immune to Kyouka Suigetsu>is unaware he would get KO'd by Ichibei because he's blackKino. Absolute kino.
Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to call the new novels "Don't Bleach My Asshole"?
>>288691995Is it? Have you seen how stupid Bleach's cosmology is? All that despite them spending so much time explaining it.
>>288693004It's literally Buddhist cosmology of Six Realms with minor tweaks.
>>288692740Holy cope lmao
Bleach is the michael bay of the big 3, no substance all style, that's why it inspired so many clones and even then those clones also took from Naruto there will be no clones of dragonball, one piece or hunter x hunter because nobody can match toriyama's on the fly style, nobody can match togashi's autism and nobody can match oda's sheer gall to make such a crazy story keep people engaged for decades, the closest who have come to that would be Fairy Tail with Mashima, it's outlived every other series he's done and is now getting an official sequel series, the closest to Hunter x Hunter would be World Trigger but it's a pseudo monthly and despite the author and the fanbase's autism for the combat it's not every engaging due to no real stakes like death or the story taking a different direction from the stated goalit seems like the best way to make a quick hit shonen nowadays is to take concepts from Bleach and part 1 Naruto like My Hero Academia, Black Clover, Jujusui Kensen and Demon Slayer dida lot of young characters young enough to be sexualized and self inserted intolot of powerful adult like characters like the shinigami captains and konoha teachers several side characters vying between OP'd, mentors, quirky and memorable designsat least 4 or 3 main characters, the hero, the rival, the girl and maybe the jobber and best friendThe most important thing you need is good major arc villain the fanbase will never let go of and will meme about for years even after they're no longer reverent Oh and a generic power up everybody can get but everybody has a different name for it and different abilities, people LIVE for that shit
Sorry bro, not gonna fail for that bait. Have Mugetsu Chad as effort for the bait tho.
>>288693037>no substance all style,Didn't read any further. Speedreader opinion discarded.
>>288693035Why are the fucking gods dead then? At least Boruto has the decency of telling you souls can transcend to higher realms and stops at that before creating a whole circus. Bleach is a bubbled multiverse created by some whackos who don't know what the fuck they are doing.
>>288692481Burrito WAS heavily influenced by Bleach. If only you actually read your fucking novels.
>>288693079>Boruto>DecencyIt went with ayy lmaos in a manga about ninjas. And completely removed anything ninja from a manga about ninjas. Eat a Snickers, you're not yourself.And what do you mean "why gods are dead"? Who are the gods? There are no gods in Bleach, other than the Soul King.>>288693158>Boruto is heavily influenced by Bleach novelsNow I see.
>>288693056He can't lose.
>>288693208Aliens? They're interdimensional cultivators. It's xianxia.Also there were no Gods in Bleach? There were plenty of them, but the Reio was the one that stood above the heavens. As a king to the Gods and realms under it. He was near omnipotent. That is why he was sealed.
Momoshiki almost verbatim repeating Bleach's lore onto his own universe and Bleach fans calling Burrito bad is funny to me.
>>288693443>It's xianxia.I'm sorry that Naruto turned into xianxia. Can't wish for a worse fate.>There were plenty of them, but the Reio was the one that stood above the heavens. News to me. Is this from some kind of fanfiction by a prolific fanfiction author perhaps? And you keep saying Reio like it's a name for some reason.
Don't bleach my hairy balls
>>288693443Sonidoreader, Adneyus is the only God in all of Bleach, at least in the traditional sense of what a god is, the Shinigami are just strong souls and Baraggan is a larper.
>>288693683That traditional sense means "king".
>>288693573>And you keep saying Reio like it's a name for some reason."the Reio" is a name? It means soul king.Read bellow your post down to check what his name was.
>>288693683>Adneyus is the only God in all of BleachTo be fair, there are absolutely other gods or at least god-like beings, but they were not named or even featured in the story so far. For instance, those beings Ise clan deals with, the Amatsukami.>>288693785The post below mine says "He can't lose", it doesn't contain names. I know that Soul King's name is adnyeus. I don't see your point.
>>288693852How would Ichibe not be a God?
they even say "Gods" in the novels. Even if no one was as powerful as the soul king, gods is still a very broather term used for the other families. Even if they are frauds.I mean? It makes sense for them to be frauds. That's the whole point of Yhwach, to enact revenge on them and pursue the wish of his daddy to unify everything again.
>>288694034Depends on your how you define "god". Bleach lacks such definition. The only remotely certain thing about gods is that they can be reflected in Ise Mirror Sword. If you define "god" as "a being who can influence the entire world on fundamental scale", then Ichibei probably can be counted as a god as he's the one who supposedly gave names to all things. It's not even clear if he was present before the World was split, so far we've seen him only after it was done.
>>288694131Which ultimatelly proved the royal family right. The Soul King was fucking dangerous and they did the best call by sealing the fucker.
>>288694131>novelsNot canon>That's the whole point of Yhwach, to enact revenge on them and pursue the wish of his daddy You do realise that Yhwach was born around 1200 years ago and can't possibly be the son of Adnyeus himself, right?
i love them together
>>288694155Ichibe...
>>288694162nonono, you're wrong. The novels make it very clear that he is but a fragment of the guy. The left arm of Adenyeus.
>>288694236The left arm of Adnyeus is Pernida, chucklenuts.
>there are people that actually care about the novels have they adapted any lore from the novels into the current anime?
>>288681697Yeah, Lucy's the Bulma >inb4 Toriyama's editor shipped Goku and Bulma And Tori rightfully shot his dumbass down.
>>288694162>Not canonThey're very good. Ergo very canon as well. :)idgaf about your cope.
>>288694264Sorta. They've introduced the concept of Primordial World (which is called the Primordial Sea in the anime) and introduced Shinji's Bankai. That't the extent.
Someone needs to adapt this pic but for manga/anime onliers who decided to skip CFYOW
>>288694272>They're very good.Amazing. Utter fanfiction tier sclop is good somehow.
>>288694289It was a dimensional soup where no life could exist. I feel sea actually fits the description better.
>>288694308Your loss.
>>288694289So nothing super interesting. I really hope the new anime content is from Kubo himself, and not from the novels. We already new Toshiro has new scenes.
>>288694303
>shipping warsnot my problem
Has anyone read Don't Bleach My Asshole yet?Has anyone translated it?
>>288694303why would anyone bother to read shitty narita novels with shitty translations? i got all the important info from people who have bothered to read the novels and the lore is pretty boring. id much rather have cour 4 expand on what kubo didnt
>>288665604I was more into Ulquihime, but I'm happy with the conclusion Kubo gave us>>288678571>>288679187That's the stuff
>>288684653Ichigo used to be interesting when he still butted heads with everybody. Then he became lame and gay and angst. Mexico, and making SS suddenly good guys (but not really lol) was a huge mistake.
>>288694358I do hope so too. The only things from the novels that can make into Cour 4 is the direct aftermath, where Nel and Grimmjaw rescue Harribel. And maybe some miniscule details like Hanatarou becoming a third seat.>>288694411Some people did, that's for sure. From what I gathered there is literally nothing of value. And no translation so far, at least a complete one or in a language I can read.
>new anime added content that contradicts both the manga and novelsthe original sin in the anime isnt even the same as in the novels bruh
>>288694414Watching anime is basically watching the imagination of some other dude of media you like. Often books or transcripts.Novels allow you to create your own space, your own characters as the author describes them to you. It's infinitelly better because you aren't restricted to the thoughts of some other person. But youre probalby incapable of imagining anyway. You're an imagionlet.
>>288694464I've read is set on the human world, much more grounded and focused on human relationships this time around. For a volume 1, you can't expect it to be that wild. Especially when CFYOW already explained so much of the God realms. And they probably want to keep Hell a secret until they adapt it in a sequel.
>>288694489>Novels allow you to create your own spacei dont care about hisagi so making him the main character of a trilogy already killed my interest and i dont see the point in reading cfyow when the anime has already contradicted its lore. either the lore in cfyow is canon, the new anime lore is canon, or kubo cares so little about the lore that hes letting everyone do what they want
>>288694469>Novels novels novelsNew content in TYBW anime fixes what was wrong with the manga with a power of hindsight. Like why the hell Yhwach was able to summon a Spirit Weapon from his Quincy Cross when he's a Power-Sharing Quincy who can't do that? In the anime he doesn't, he summons his sword from an amulet.Novels try to tie the loose ends by introducing utterly unreasonable bullshit that goes against the manga itself. >>288694489>Novels allow you to create your own space.>Needs some novels to tie loose ends instead of theorycraftingOh wow. The imagionlet (what a word, huh) is you.
>>288694526It's an AU where every character, from Toushirou and Kenpachi to Ulquiorra and As Nodt, is a high-schooler. It'seven more useless than CFYOW, which is an achievent in itself.
>>288694526>much more grounded and focused on human relationships this time around.lol what? its an AU highschool setting and even ulquiorra is alive and well. ulquihime got some crumbs, kenpachi is a failed highschooler who got held back, and ichigo and rukia have known each other since childhood since she kicked his ass at her grandfathers dojo or something. someone on twitter is translating it and makes threads every new chapter, there is nothing grounded about this work
>>288694599Looks fun. It also might mean Bleach has alternate realities. I like that idea.Did you know that Boruto might be that too? I feel like naming a character "Ada" might be a big hint. lolStop overthinking so much, the original creators obviously can't stay in charge of the IP, overseeing every plot point forever.
>>288694692>Boruto Boruto Borutoi.Enough. You have your own thread for that. Wan't there something about a new banger cover recently? Must be very interesting, go discuss it.
This was Aizen's #1 hole btw
>>288694727I wasn't the one who brought Boruto here. And Narutards are as much genwunner babies as many of you are. It seems to be a pattern across media.I only want to enjoy what's new because I don't fucking live in the past.
>boruto boruto borutoOFFICIAL translated novels btw unlike bleach
>>288694760>I'll enjoy anything, no matter how shit it is, if it's new. New is good, no matter what. Jesus Christ. Have taste, enjoy good things. Watch Cour 4.>>288694800Which speaks numbers on quality of said Bleach novels.Ahm new episodes btw, unlike Boruto. Boruto thread is over there.
Hinamori's kinda cute, TYBW has made me appreciate her a lot more
>>288694741Cannot blame him.
>>288694886They finally gave her a moment to shine. Very much appreciated.
>>288694599>KenpachiHe's not a high-schooler as in being a teenager, speedreader. He's a legendary delinquent who has repeated the first year several times.
>>288695047>TeenagerNever said that>He's not a high-schoolerHe's still in high-school, listed among the third years.If the information from the introduction spread is inaccurate, it's really the novels fault. As if this information had any value at all.
>>288695168>he somehow passed the first two years of high school but kept repeating the last for some reasonThat's even worse. Or is it because he doesn't want to stop being a delinquent, and you need to be a high-schooler to fit?
>>288682607>Turn Rukia into a dude, none of that shit changessee >>288670099
>>288694685>ichigo and rukia have known each other since childhood since she kicked his ass at her grandfathers dojo or somethingThen Rukia is Tatsuki in the novel
>>288695249>IchiRukis have to steal IchiTatsu crumbs to be validatedSad!
>>288695217They just needed an excuse to have a gruffy looking dude to be in a high-school setting without involving organized crime.
>>288695273Are Nips really that sensitive about portraying yakuza in fiction? In the very first chapter Nnoitra almost murders a stranger for a fucking umbrella.
>>288695312I don't think it's about the Yakuza per se, it's just you can't have a popular character be reinterpreted as a drug dealer or something like that.
>>288695249Rukia was bad in zanjutsu. I suppose in the novel they want the characters be the contrary to the canon ones in some things
>>288695312>In the very first chapter Nnoitra almost murders a stranger for a fucking umbrella.That's very in-character. Nnoitra was a douchebag who loved killing others even after they surrendered or were helpless. Kubo highlighted him specifically as "pure evil" and mentioned that as a core trait in his MASKED interview.
>>288694741too flat
>>288695249yeah narita took tatsukis lore for rukia in the novel.
>>288665604Orihime posted this thread in an attempt to convince Rukia to join Ichigo's harem. But Ichigo is a monogamist and won't do it.
>>288695249>Rukia being set up to be raped by HollowsI kneel before Narita.
>>288689668see here >>288679981. i really dont think the random at large sees orihime as the heroine. love interest? yeah sure but heroine/female lead of bleach as a whole? no its rukia >>288683871i dont agree with that. saying that online fans are the most rabid just isnt true, i think its true from the shipping angle and rukia/orihime because both sides, moreso orihimefags than rukiafags, want everyone to like their favorite girl. toshiro doesnt even get that much fan content but he consistently tops the polls. he actually has one of the most chill fanbases despite his overwhelming popularity.
Ichigo vs Ulquiorra fight just got an official MV dedicated to it and Soul Society arc fanboys will still say Ichigo vs Byakuya is more iconic.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_KJnyhbOoE
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>>288665604In this alternate world Chad ends up plowing Orihime whenever they train.
>>288696553Imagine bragging about some MV when they adapted the SS and parts of the HM arc with the newer artstyle for the 20th anniversary.
>>288696487Hitsugaya is kinda overhated all things considered.
>>288696785They also put the Ulquiorra fight in that 20 anniversary PV too tho.
>>288696553>Soul Society arc fanboys will still say Ichigo vs Byakuya is more iconic.I liked that way more.When were the manga readers who voted the best fight poll, it won Byakuya vs Ichigo. Maybe anime watchers are the ones who like the Ulquiorra vs Ichigo one.
apparently the high school AU novel is buns, like people love the bleach characters as they are, slapping the ones who aren't high schoolers into a high school setting isn't as fun.I understand, what I don't understand is apparently there's gonna be multiple novels of this shit? Like who wanted more of this, Kubo? Anything to avoid the hell arc and burn the witch I guess. He really is on his toriyama arc where he plans on dying before continuing just fucking around with various different projects
>>288696886Even then it was still at second place and the difference in votes was only 39. Nowadays Ichigo vs Ulquiorra is way more iconic.
>>288696785They need to make a new video with Orihime's perspective
>>288694270>Lucy and Bulma out of nowhere My point is that Cana barely has a relationship with Natsu, so I don’t understand why she was posted there even if she has a similar character design to Natsu’s mother. If anything, I remember her having more interactions with Gray. Even then, Gray and Lucy’s relationship are nothing like the other two lol
>>288696947>Nowadays Ichigo vs Ulquiorra is way more iconic.I might be out of the loop, but does this matter? SS as a whole is still considered the most tight and concise arc in the entire manga. I actually enjoy the HM arc a lot, but there's way too much unnecessary filler.
>>288697047It matters to me because it's my favorite fight from the manga and I'm happy to see it being beloved even in official media.
my probelms with the mexico arc>the shinigami vs espada fights, half of them are really really boring>orihime and the hogyoku went nowhere after kubo teased it>the only nakama to get a decent fight was rukia, chad got btfo while uryu and renji got saved by mayuri >orihime is the heroine of the arc but not one colorpage or spread was dedicated to her >too long
>>288697165>mexico arcAmericans are really funny.
>>288697124>I'm happy to see it being beloved even in official media.When has it ever been hated on? It's the most popular Ichigo solo fight alongside the Byakuya one.
>>288697234Soul Society arc fags hate it because they its a fight from the Arrancar arc and they only like that single arc. Thankfully that breed is dying off and Ichigo vs Ulquiorra is more beloved now.
>>288697264>anyone that hates anything from the HM arc is an ssfaghow do you people live like this lol
>>288697234It's again a shippers thing. If you like ichiruki you like Byakuya vs Ichigo because he was fighting her bother for Rukia. If you like ichihime you adores Ulquiorra vs Ichigo, because he was fighting for her, but also because Orihime was there and Ichigo revived to protect her.
>>288697361A lot of Soul Society arc fags hate the Arrancar arc and unironically think Bleach should have ended in that arc. I'm not talking about Arrancar arc haters as whole, just SS arc fags.
>>288697487>Everything boils down to shippingShippers should be shipped to Somalia.
>>288697487Not my case. I like Ichigo vs Byakuya because Byakuya is cool af and I like Ichigo vs Ulquiorra because Hollow Ichigo and Ulquiorra are cool af. Rukia and Orihime play no role in me liking those fights.
>>288697487With the arcs happens the same.Ichiruki fans love the SS arc and say it's the best one.Ichihime fans say the Arrancar arc is the best and that the SS arc is overrated.
>>288697487>If you like ichiruki you like Byakuya vs Ichigo because he was fighting her bother for Rukia. If you like ichihime you adores Ulquiorra vs Ichigo, because he was fighting for her, but also because Orihime was there and Ichigo revived to protect her.You know I wonder if this plays into the ships themselves. When Ichigo defeats Byakuya, he's a true victor and his sole goal is defeating Byakuya for the sake of Rukia, even going as far as telling him not to say certain words in front of Rukia again because she's the younger sister and he's the older brother. When he defeats Ulquiorra, he's not a victor, he wasn't happy with how he won and Orihime wasn't proud of how she relied on him when she wanted to do the opposite. He does fight to save Orihime of course, but he becomes a retarded fightfag at times even wanting to harm himself for a fair fight when he should just focus on defeating enemies to bring her home.
why Rukia could never win against this slob?
>>288697719The moment Rukia decided to stay in Soul Society it was over for IchiRuki.
>>288672442See? Literal proof it's only ever retarded shitpost psychopaths who deny it.No discussion, just trying to start wars. This alone is the greatest proof Kubo fucked up.
>>288697487Ulquihime shippers also love Ichigo vs Ulquiorra because they see it as a culmination to their love triangle Also, I'm pretty sure Ichihime shippers prefer TYBW these days because of their fight against Yhwach and the epilogue
>>288697866Another drop in the sea of tears.Such an abundant resource, we must find an application. As a sweetener, sugar substitute prehaps. Diet Coke with IchiRuki tears, 100% Natural, no aspartame. Imagine.
>>288697894>because of their fight against Yhwachdo they actually consider that a good fight when both her and ichigo failed once yhwach stopped playing around?
>>288697959Considering that fight is literally the culmination of her character development where Ichigo asks her to protect him, they don't really have a choice. It's not like Ichiruki shippers don't romanticize Rukia jobbing to Fishbone D, to Grimmjow or Riruka either.
>>288698045>Rukia jobbing to Fishbone Dshe didnt job, she was distracted when she got swatted away which she owns up to and then dives in to protect ichigo because he actually thinks he'll be able to fightfag his way with a hollow. the riruka fight is embarrassing tho
>>288698227>the riruka fight is embarrassing thoRukia deserved it for underestimating her enemy.
>>288698880the whole plushie thing was gay
