Those nails are too long for lesbians
>>288692113They solve that instantly
>>288692113If you just saw the Viz license announcement, know that the characters discuss the issue early on and cut their nails short.
>what if we made yuri without rape, boxcutters or handwringing over nothings>it takes industry by stormwhiny melodrama lesbians in shambles over their """""pain"""""
The thread?
>>288692131>BET!who the fuck translated this and where is the closest store to their house that sells hammers
>>288692267>upset that gal use slangare you gonna kill yourself in front of them in a show of apology for being retarded?
>>288692267I'm willing to bet it's a Double MTL like Japanese>Indonesian/Tagalog>English. Lots of crap like that popping up.
>>288692297>japanese gals should talk like hood nigga thugz from Compton I guess on the next page they get a ride to donki in their aniki’s deuce and a quarter
>>288692374tl/n: keikakuu means plan
>>288692131SOULful tl
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>>288692113I was a little sad they cut them, it was a cute scene but lesbian sex with those nails would be extremly hot.
>>288692599It would be extremely painful
>>288692267Would you prefer gyaru-go being rendered entirely in valley girl slang?Sucking all personality out of diaolgue is just stupidity not good localisation.
>>288692194Gyaru x Gyaru is not that different from the average Kirara CGDCT or even Botan airing right now. The big difference is that one is published in a mainstream magazine with an official concurrent translation. The only difference content wise is that there are more detailed backgrounds maybe the girls have more interactions with guys than the average yuri manga.
>>288692619Lots of hot things would be outside fiction, thats the great thing about it.
>>288692640>maybe the girls have more interactions with guys than the average yuri mangaNo they don't. They speak to their teacher once in a blue moon. I will never get this schizo narrative.
>>288692668The very first page is about her breaking up with her boyfriend.
>>288692693okay but that still doesn't prove your point about having more interactions
>>288692737The average is no interaction, at least not in the first chapter, and especially not one in a romantic context.
>>288692693Okay? Do you understand what interaction means? What a stupid thing to be hung up about. Men aren't common in kirara cgdcts with yuri because they're cgdcts. You haven't read the average yuri manga.
>>288692693Thats a very common setup?
>>288692639>if these gyaru don’t talk like Rex from Dog Nigga then it’s not faithful localizationnever thought I’d meet a Viz employee on /a/, small world huh
>>288692821>>288692848In non-fantasy yuri manga, it's definitely not the default. Botan airing this season didn't have one in the first episode. Watanare/Watatabe didn't have one. KimiShinu airing next season won't have any.
>>288692113Lesbians should have long nails to keep their girlfriends on their toes. Makes sex very careful and very exciting. Also keeps cheating hoes honest.Gyaru are truly perfect for yuri.
>>288692113Do you think lesbian gals call eachother キモ~?
>>288692932>In non-fantasy yuri manga, it's definitely not the default.>Watatabe>KimiShinuAre you trying to prove to everyone you have some type of mental retardation or something?
>>288693283First of all, Watatabe is definitely not fantasy. Second, my point is that yuri has so few of these interactions such that, even loose fantasy series like Kimishinu don't have any guys in them. Kimishinu will just reinforce the stereotype.
>>288692113Thought that was Aweida for a moment.
>>288693547So you are doubling down and even trying to make Kimishinu a loose fantasy series? You know when guys show up in Kimishinu? During combat, because if you were not retarded you would have understood why you don't want a gender mixed children military so on top of fighting a war you also have to deal with children pregnancies and abortions. Also Watatabe does have male characters, even aside from the main character father and brother that show up constantly in flashbacks.>my point is that yuri has so few of these interactions And you just proved why above, you know why the story starts with an ex boyfriend and then they have no guys in their friends circle? Because in japanese society it's not common for men and women to interact like this unless there is romantic interest from one of the parts or they were childhood friends, it's why the childhood friend trope is so common in romcoms because otherwise the protagonist would never have a female friend, it's why every time you see two opposite gender characters close in manga there is always someone asking if they are dating, it's why in romcoms the girls never have other male friends because the reader would immediately assume those are guys she is also interested in. So unless you want the author to have a pointless character he can't do anything with and just like sensei is just a gag, you are asking for the story to have a male character who intentionally wants to be invasive.
>>288692639The only "good" localization is when there is absolutely no way to make the translation coherent.
>>288694222The person who called Watatabe a fantasy series wants to criticize others usage of genre labels? I call it a loose fantasy because other than the supernatural powers, it could take place in our world in a secret war-esque kind of thing. Even the official English publisher advertises it as Science-Fiction rather than fantasy (https://kodansha.us/series/i-want-to-love-you-till-your-dying-day/). You also can't be sure that those are guys in the battle scenes because their uniform canonically consists of pants once they turn 17.>because in japanese society it's not common for men and women to interact like this unless there is romantic interest from one of the parts or they were childhood friendsYour LARP about Japanense preferences aside, why would you assume that what people experience/see in reality would be want they want to see in fiction? Both WHA and Marriage Toxin are airing this season and feature plenty of interactions between men and women and they are far more popular than any yuri series will be. Even if it's unrealistic (which I don't grant), people clearly want to see men and women interact with each other in fiction.I'm not also asking for anything because I prefer all-female settings. This is a description of people's tastes, not a prescription.
>>288692113Another reason to never care about dykes, as if we needed more
>>288694942Ah is that so? So fucking Harry Potter, one of the most popular fantasy stories ever made, written by one of the greatest women who ever lived, is not really fantasy because it happens on earth, is that fucking so? The only reason we don't call Watatabe fantasy is because horror or supernatural is a more modern categorization but derivative from the fantasy genre.>why would you assume that what people experience/see in reality would be want they want to see in fiction?I don't, but this is besides the point, the argument is why yuri authors don't bother with it and the reason why they often don't bother with it is because if they are not writing an emotional conflict that directly involves male characters like Koinega or Pinky Candy Kiss, they understand they are writing sanitized gag male characters who will never be more than that, see Green manga as example.>Both WHA and Marriage Toxin are airing this season and feature plenty of interactions between men and women and they are far more popular than any yuri series will be.They also have marketing and production budgets dozens if not hundreds of times bigger than any other yuri series ever had so it's moot point, aside from you know not being yuri series, even if one of them has a little yuri side content, well yeah if your series is not about girls kissing then for sure it has a much bigger chance of being popular.>Even if it's unrealistic (which I don't grant), people clearly want to see men and women interact with each other in fiction.Reality is a perception, what you are talking about is how unlikely it is, which factually is unlikely.>people clearly want to see men and women interact with each other in fiction.They do, we easily have seen this when G Witch was airing, lots of people who wanted to see Suletta and Guel interacting and they got really upset by the end of it, I'm sure you can understand why.
Also I didn't have space to say it, but by now it's very apparent WHA is underperforming in a very notable way, so I wouldn't continue using it as an example if I was you.
>>288695579You do realize that there is a gradient between supernatural powers and fantasy right? Or does Jujutsu Kaisen count as fantasy now too? I'm pointing out that Kimishinu falls closer to the former than the later, which is why I called it a loose fantasy, still meaning a type of fantasy. >they are not writing an emotional conflict that directly involves male charactersNowhere did I suggest that this is what people want. My whole point in bringing up those two series is that they feature male-female interactions in these "unrealistic" ways according to you. Yet their audience, even the part that isn't particularly interested in seeing heterosexual romance, has no issues with these interactions. And you can extend it beyond those two. Both Frieren and Dungeon Meshi regularly feature mixed sex parties. G-Witch is another good example. Both girls and guys in Earth House regularly interact with each other. So where are the people saying this is unrealistic?
>>288692640No? Lots of yuri manga even start with boyfriends or have relevant male characters. This is neither good nor bad, but its such a weird thing to obsess and lie about.You anti-yurischizos complaining about yuri only know about it by haunting that /au/ abomination.
>>288696078>Lots of yuri manga even start with boyfriends or have relevant male charactersLet's look at all the yuri anime from the past 5 or so years.>Kamina Botan (no boyfriends, no relevant male characters)>Omae Gotoki (no boyfriends, some relevant male characters)>Android (no boyfriends, no relevant male characters)>Watatabe (no boyfriends, no relevant male characters)>Watanare (no boyfriends, no relevant male characters)>Bad Girl (no boyfriends, no relevant male characters)>Sasakoi (no boyfriends, no relevant male characters)>Oomuro-ke (no boyfriends, no relevant male characters)>Mahoako (no boyfriends, no relevant male characters)>Watayuri (no boyfriends, no relevant male characters)>TenTen (no boyfriends, relevant male characters)>WataOshi (no boyfriends, relevant male characters)>Stardust Telepath (no boyfriends, no relevant male characters)>Wataten (no boyfriends, no relevant male characters)>Wataoshi (no boyfriends, no relevant male characters)If you're stereotype of yuri came only from anime, no boyfriends and relevant guys would be the norm.
>>288695943Yes, of course it fucking does, do you think JJK invented supernatural powers? Or battle shonen? What do you think people used to call those stories before those subgenres became commonly used? >Nowhere did I suggest that this is what people want. My whole point in bringing up those two series is that they feature male-female interactions in these "unrealistic" ways according to you. Yet their audience, even the part that isn't particularly interested in seeing heterosexual romance, has no issues with these interactions. And you can extend it beyond those two. Both Frieren and Dungeon Meshi regularly feature mixed sex parties. G-Witch is another good example. Both girls and guys in Earth House regularly interact with each other. So where are the people saying this is unrealistic?It's exactly as I just told you above, the japanese understand the relationship between men and women to be inherently not purely platonic if they are interacting outside of their expected roles, it's unlikely they will interact in those ways if they don't have an ulterior motive or are forced by the circumstances which in a non fantasy setting would be a male character interacting with the friends or the girl he is flirting with. Do you even understand why you are using fantasy as an example? Because those stories have a lore justification for male and female characters to interact with each other and even so of all examples you provided, all of them have obvious non platonic even if onesided opposite sex interactions between the characters which is why I used Sulleta and Guel as examples or G Witch as a whole, the guys had to be invasive and explicitly interested in romancing the girls, otherwise they had zero motivation to interact with them outside of them most basic interactions the lore would provide.
>this yuri manga isn't yuri because a male character existed in the timeline of their universeyurifags are the worst part about yuri manga.
uhhm I got into the genre with Girl Friendsmales don't bother me but I could see myself having different views if I exclusively read stuff with 100% only women when starting outthis isn't relevant to the discussion, I just wanted to post something
>>288696583It's some retard samefagging, not the first time he has this exact discussion with himself.
>>288696346If guys were prominent, the fanart would be these dykes getting plowed left and right as is proper of a lady.
>>288696346It was completely loveless, but two of the girls in TenTen had a boyfriend.
>>288696657Sakura Trick had no males and yet the fan-art is mostly heterosexual.>>288696926It was an arranged marriage whereas boyfriend implies romances.
>>288696583I am not saying that series with males are not yuri. I'm saying that, for normalfags, having little-to-no interaction with men in a yuri story is a red flag for them.
Is this true? Does she have the cake?
>>288696489Humans having magical powers and involving the powers of gods would be the subject of epics, which were considered true to some extent. It is only later on that genre distinctions like fantasy as made.>they will interact in those ways if they don't have an ulterior motive or are forced by the circumstances>those stories have a lore justification for male and female characters to interact with each otherEven if I accept your framing, why do you think so many stories features circumstances and lore that force men and women to interact with each other? Even in the BL series airing this season, the protagonist has female classmates whomst he interacts with. Are people secretly wishing that she is in love with him? The answer is no; they expect to see him interact with her because most people in a mixed-sex environment interact with the opposite sex occasionally.
>>288697020It's a common complain when an entire segment of a population disappears. Just like how "where are the parents" gets asked often "where are the men?" will get asked if you exclude them without setting up circumstances that explain it
>>288696346>manga>let me talk about these anime and make it only boyfriends to 'win' the argumentWhy are these "people" allowed to leave twitter?
>>288697306>"where are the men?" will get asked if you exclude them without setting up circumstances that explain itThat's exactly what I am saying yet no one seems to believe me. The only point where I would disagree is that even a plausible explanation won't help in most cases because the normalfag audience will see right through it.>>288697442The other anon first brought up the standard of boyfriends/relevant male characters. All of those anime I mentioned are originally manga or otherwise have manga adaptations. They are some of the most popular yuri manga, so it makes to use them as a baseline. Even looking at the yuri genre as a whole, you're probably looking at less than 10% of series where the main characters have boyfriends originally.
>>288697263>Humans having magical powers and involving the powers of gods would be the subject of epics, which were considered true to some extent. It is only later on that genre distinctions like fantasy as made.I honestly have no idea what of your point is, the use of supernatural, horror, superpowers and so on as a genre does not precede the use of fantasy as a genre.>Even if I accept your framing, why do you think so many stories features circumstances and lore that force men and women to interact with each other? Because it's one of the most common setup ever written in fiction, you literally have a reason for your characters to know each other regardless if they are opposite or same gender.>Even in the BL series airing this season, the protagonist has female classmates whomst he interacts with. Are people secretly wishing that she is in love with him? The answer is no; they expect to see him interact with her because most people in a mixed-sex environment interact with the opposite sex occasionally.Yes? Can you name 30 ongoing yuri manga where the girls don't occasionally interact with men? And no, you are not allowed to use works where 95% of the time it's just the same cast of character introduced in the first chapter, because if they are not interacting with other women you cannot complain they are not interacting with men either.
>normal people turn their nose up at cgdct "moeshit" series for years>make all the girls gay >instant success and mainstream approvalit only took kirara 20 years to figure it out.
>>288698087My point is that for you to harken back to a particular historical definition of fantasy is arbitrary as one could easily point out that it didn't exist at some point.Also: the girl in Nakamura-kun has both a name a face and is the fourth most important after after the two leads and character. She also interacts with him a lot, which supposed to never ever happen in Japan.
Remember everyone, this is totally weird and abnormal, which is why this one scene in particular was the reason that the author got cancelled.Ultimately, my point is that retarded normalfags want male characters in yuri who either romantically interact with the girls in yuri or at least acknowledge the relationship between the leads. Yes: there are other factors like artystyle and marketing budget that prevent normalfags from getting into yuri, but obviously some of the content outside of the lesbians is going to be factor as well.
>>288698489You can keep pretending you didn't understand the point and continue being ironic if you want, but the fact is you have thousands of works that make explicitly clear it's unusual for boys and the girls to interact without lore reasons to do it, even the show you are posting, something which I will never watch because I am not a faggot or a troon trying to pretend he a fujoshi aside from pretending to be a woman, googling easily shows their relationship is not as friendly as you put.>Nakamura notices Kawamura for the first time after seeing how good she could draw Hirose during art class. During break, Nakamura learns Kawamura's name and tells her how big of a fan he is of her. Kawamura draws him a lot after their encounter and develops a crush on him.Again, you go back to what I said, unless there are ulterior motives or lore reasons, authors can't find a justification for those interactions.
>>288698939>normalfags want male characters in yuri who either romantically interact with the girls in yuriThey want heterosexual romance not yuri. If authors have to appease this audience to be popular the first thing both authors and the publishers will realize is that they can just write heterosexual romance instead.>or at least acknowledge the relationship between the leadsThey don't give a single shit about this.
>>288698967Nowhere did I say that they're were purely platonic. My point is that even a BL series features women in love with the MCs, she still interacts with the MC beyond what would be normal for a one-sided crush. But to your point, I think yuri would be more popular among tastless normal fags if there was a useless, feckless male character who only existed to get rejected by the MCs.
>>288699202We have many yuri works like this, Koinega wasn't any explosive success even though it was supposed to be promoted not to the usual yuri audience, but even so it's a regular in male yuri otaku purchases and the amount of merch indicates this is really the case. The only actual example we have is G Witch however the only reason people got into it was because they couldn't tell if he was a designed loser or not, if the work was promoted as yuri then they wouldn't not have bothered with it.
>>288699115What's with this dichotomy? Some people might occasionally want to watch yuri, if they primarily consume straight content. But of course these people expect it to be not that different from the kinds of romance they are already reading.>>288699452>G Witch however the only reason people got into it was because they couldn't tell if he was a designed loser or notI think most people were just down for the ride rather than supporting him right off the hop. The question you need to ask yourself is would G-Witch have as been as popular if Asticassia was an all-girls school?
>>288699608Considering your previous post said they need a male love interest what do you expect me to say? It reads to me they don't want yuri, they want NTR with the guy losing to a girl.>I think most people were just down for the ride rather than supporting him right off the hop. The question you need to ask yourself is would G-Witch have as been as popular if Asticassia was an all-girls school?Most people just wanted to see Gundam action, some wanted yuri and some wanted the girls involved with the guys, you have a large amount of heterosexual (non erotic) doujin and also the recent controversies in the official X account with a lot of people getting banned because they are fighting over people asking or demanding for the girls to be coupled with guys in the SOL manga.>The question you need to ask yourself is would G-Witch have as been as popular if Asticassia was an all-girls school?It would have reached difference audiences, whether it would be less or more popular it's hard to say because it would also be a different show.
>>288700116A love triangle involving a guy isn't NTR.>it would have reached difference audiencesBut why? According to you, settings where girls don't really interact with guys are perfectly understandable, so most of the people should have no issue with it if everything else is the same.
>>288700305>A love triangle involving a guy isn't NTR.Anon, people will scream NTR over a female character just talking to another guy, what do you think goes over the head of someone who needs to see a male character losing to enjoy a relationship of two girls?>>288700305>But why? According to you, settings where girls don't really interact with guys are perfectly understandable, so most of the people should have no issue with it if everything else is the same.You mean outside of the people who explicitly said they just watched the show because it had "hot guys" and/or because they were shipping the guys with the girls? Because those people would not watch a show with an all female cast or where they believed the yuri would amount to anything in the end, you can see my post above where I said very clear those people would never have watched the show if it was promoted as yuri because they would understand how it would end.And of course, I don't see the point of engaging in silly hypotheticals when we both know very well if it was an all female cast the show would be different, producers would take advantage of it for better and for worse, I am 100% sure the marriage would not have happened in an all female cast scenario for example, as it would just be more profitable to leave all options left like the same company already does with Love LIve.Also, I will ask once again, what are those works where the girls don't interact with guys where the story isn't just focused on the same group of main characters and almost everyone else is almost nonexistent? Outside of Mahoako, Yuru Yuri and those works where the gimmick is that men actually do not exist as part of the lore).
>>288692113You do know long colorful nails like that are just coverings, right
>>288700860Fragile romcom fans do, but that's not representative of all other fanbases that could be interested in yuri.>those people would never have watched the show if it was promoted as yuri because they would understand how it would endCorrect, but you keep focusing on the people who kept hating yuri, yet G-Witch is still popular. I'd wager that many of those people ended up liking the relationship between Suletta/Miorine more. No ending is going to have 100% universal acceptance, it's about convincing the majority.>what are those works where the girls don't interact with guysSasakoi is one, even changing the boyfriend line in the anime to make it more gender neutral. Wataten and Android didn't either. But ultimately, I think people want meaningful interactions, not just ones with background or unnamed family members.
Stop this faggot discussion and post Yano's yanos instead
>>288701274And how would you define the people who need to see an "normal" relationship with a male love interest to enjoy a story about two girls as anything but fragile?Not in this context, you asked if the series would be more popular with an all female cast, I said it could be more or less popular but the audience would be different, you asked how would the audience be different and I told you the audience would be different because there were people who objectively didn't want to see yuri or just wanted to see the guys and this audience obviously wouldn't remain for an all female cast.Sasakoi has chapters with Hima and Yori fathers, neither Wataten or Android are ongoing titles and honestly from all titles you could choose, do you really think you should be making this argument about adding male characters with prominent roles in a work that is 85% hentai scenes? Even outside of the yuri fandom, what do you honestly believe people would think of his role in the story is meant to be? That aside, you don't have those because authors can't figure this out, you have ensemble cast stories with yuri protagonists, like that one with the two teachers, but incredible not popular, you have Green where the guys are 90% of the time the same gag, you have tsukutabe which is close to having the protagonist spitting in the face of a guy, you have Koinega and Pinky Candy Kiss which do seem to have a notable audience but definitely not mainstream concepts as you would expect from NTR.
>>288701742These people don't necessarily want to see the girls in relationships with men, they want to see girls choosing women over men in a similar vein to that Nakatani Nio quote. Obviously this fanbase is going to different from the one that watches something like Mahoako, which would not be more popular if it added men.>but incredibility not popular>he's saying this when Dragon Maid is one of the most popular yuri series right nowAs for your Android comment, I specifically remember an anon talking about how they found it weird that the MC never interacted with men, not even a male boss.
>>288692640>Gyaru x Gyaru is not that different from the average Kirara CGDCT or even Botan airing right nowThe main difference is that they drop the subtext and actively talk about how they regularly have sex. Botan offscreens basically everything and most Kirara series play around the subject and rarely commit.
>>288692113Don't both of these girls fuck multiple men?
>>288702387Yea, it's basically a lighthearted fun romcom that doesn't bullshit with stupid games and straight up tells you these 2 girls are comfortably in love, care for each other and aren't doing stupid kiddy games with their relationship.
>>288702387There are plenty of yuri where they show their relationship, both in Kirara and elsewhere, yet those are still unpopular.
>>288702200But we don't have stories like this, not even in shoujo, you know why? Because unlike stories where the girls are already in relationship with guys, you can't have a proper love triangle with a designed loser and if he isn't a designed loser then it's not a yuri manga. Dragon Maid is not a romance work anon.A dumb complaint for a manga that is 85% sex, a token male character is not getting anyone to read this series which is for people to masturbate, with even chapters of MC just masturbating alone if you had any doubts.>>288702508They had boyfriends before, it's literally the premise of the series
>>288701534Fine, I'll do it myself faggots
>>288702892>They had boyfriends before, it's literally the premise of the seriesHard pass. People with a body count over 1 are unfaithful 99% of the time.
>>288702892>you can't have a proper love triangle with a designed loserWho says it needs to a competitive one? People here love yayas, so why don't you think that other fanbases might like a designated male loser in yuri? You're also wrong on the multiple boyfriends. It's only one that's explicit.
>>288702967Well to start with what I just told you above, no one is making works like this, "yoyos" exist but they are so inoffensive it would be dishonest to even call them designer losers, see the prince in Fed Up Office Lady or the childhood friend in Protagonist x Rival. You also used to have the childhood friend in old josei yuri which not only not would commit to the yuri but often would have the protagonist getting into non consensual situations with male characters, a dynamic that not even fans of josei enjoyed.I will not pretend I know why what you are asking is not popular, but personally I think culturalwise we are very predispose to feel grossed by loser simps.
>>288703537>we are very predispose to feel grossed by loser simpsYet a whole range of people like the girls pic related.
>>288703751Because they are women, also not every girl in the picture is a yaya.
>>288703914People here think they are cute because most of here is guys like you and me. If that kind of chariaty can exist for girls, why can't it exist for guys? Even in shoujo/josei romance, male designated losers exist.
>>288704047It's not about girls being cute, it's about women being allowed to be pathetic, a designed male loser in shoujo or josei means there is a designed male winner too.
>>288704183But the designated male loser still gets merchandise. The fact of the matter is that some women do like certain types of male losers.
>>288704417Guel was really popular with women but they clearly had no perception he was a designed loser, so I'm not sure if he the story really had hammered Sulleta and Miorine's relationship as much less ambiguous if women would have liked him so much when he would be portrayed as really have zero chance.
>>288704758The most vocal members of the audience might still be upset, but there are probably still lots of women who are content with him being a loser. Just like how a lot of people got appeared to get upset at the Botan author for what he did, but it didn't noticeably affect overall popularity of the show.
>>288704799The issue here is not him losing, the issue is him having no chance, this is what a designed loser is, they even made sure all the guys in the show would look dignified even after losing, so I think they were also worried about this.I don't think most people are even aware, though you never know with merch sales, losing a whale consumer may be the equivalent of losing dozens of thousand of dollars (whatever this is on yen) over the years.
>>288705177If G-Witch can thread of needle of appealing to yurifags and appealing to non-yurifags, then other series can do it too. But we've gotten far off the original topic at this point.
