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This is Ame-chan sitting on the toilet. She's not peeing here. She's pooping. She explicitly had diarrhea. Needy Girl Overdose literally just showed a girl taking a dump onscreen.
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Ded threads ded show
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Other than the obvious explanation that Nyalra has a toilet fetish, I think the reason for all the toilet scenes is to humanize the character(s).
Like how video game characters don't often to go to the toilet because there is no reason for them to do it, since they're imaginary.
Or like how "Kim Jong-un doesn't poop" because it makes him "superior" to all mortal beings or some shit
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUh_cOSIhns
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Needy girl overbraps
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>>288706693
Why is she holding a poop knife if she has diarrhea?
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My first thought was "that's her period blood, symbolizing the loss of innocence" or something like that, she did off two of her childhood tulpas.
I wonder what the fuck she meant by that. What the fuck did I just watch?
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>>288707886
To fight off the diarrhea thieves.
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>>288706693
>Needy Girl Overdose literally just showed a girl taking a dump onscreen.
This is the fourth time btw
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>>288707886
>he doesn't take a poopknife out of habit
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>>288706693
>Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up, she was shitting brown water. The more she drank the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew.
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whats with the creator and adding tons of toilet scenes
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I don't like it
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>>288708190
see
>>288706870
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>>288708152
>The more she drank the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew.
Remember anons, if you ever catch a nasty stomach flu you need to hydrate and use lots of ORS packets.
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there were also a lot of characters wetting themselves this episode. i guess when you're overdosing its all fucked up.
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>no blogpost
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>>288707762
Why are we getting so much art
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxqjzuKjbag
>This shit is so ass
she says
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>>288708452
It speaks for itself.
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>>288708200
Do you think Ame cummed after being raped?
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>>288706693
Fine I’ll watch the damn show
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>>288708447
I don't think Usa-Pyon wet herself, I believe she began hypersalivating which is why she was drooling in the court room, but I'm not sure because her murder was censored.
Is hypersalivation a normal extreme pain response?
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okay, that's it, I don't like to use this word to describe things, but this shit is pretentious
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Someone post the other .webm

You know the one.
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>>288708996
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>>288708485
>>288708485
cringe
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>>288708996
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I can't really think of a lot of anime, let alone live action gook shit, that depicts explicit hardcore drug usage. Needy Girl Overdose is explicitly aimed at adults and airs late, but Japan does have a lot of taboos around depicting things even if there aren't any laws against it. I'm glad they didn't bitch out about it at least.
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>>288707886
>poop knife
I forgot about that.
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>>288709040
>>288709105
Thread blessed.
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>>288707886
To ward off the demons, of course.
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>>288708485
I really don't get the point in hiding that it's Sally anymore. Even if the final episode has a live action section, they couldn't have made it more obvious that it is her.
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I haven't been on board with most of this show and have really tuned out for the last several episodes, but this was easily the best one so far. Great ep. Will probably rewatch this one by itself in the future instead of the whole series.
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>>288709152
Woah, that sounds like fun! I may pick it up and watch it as stoned and acid as I can.
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>>288709283
it's only marginally about drug use, it's barely on the periphery here
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>>288708398
Reminds me of Umineko episode 4
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>>288708855
I never had an imaginary friend. I just played alone with modeling clay while trying to make Saint Seiya characters with it. Did I miss out much?
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>>288709213
Sure, it's obvious. To us, right now. But in 10, 20 years, when she doesn't want to be publicly associated with this anymore? She'll be glad it's not on the official record.
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>>288708200
It is said that art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable, and I think this episode represents the saying perfectly.
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>>288709452
But it's already confirmed her voice will be revealed when the season ends, and she will even go to an expo after that iirc. Even in your scenario it doesn't make sense.
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>>288709508
>But it's already confirmed her voice will be revealed when the season ends
[citation needed]
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>>288708485
>Music & Arrangement: Sasuke Haraguchi
goat
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>>288706693
>when you find the artist who design Ame-chan used to draw hardcore loli-rape-guro-snuff shit
Good stuff.
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what the fuck is this show even about
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>>288709514
Fuck you for making me look it up, but:
https://x.com/aniplexUSA/status/2059333849436631438
This is the expo thing I was talking about but an IRL event after the season ends implies my point.
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>>288707886
they aren't allowed to have toilet guns in japan so its the best she can do
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>>288709643
Doesn't necessarily mean she has a physical presence or shows up as anything more than the puppet.
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>>288708093
they had to actually explain it this time because they think the audience is retarded
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>>288708485
Anon, would you still love me even if I'm not based after all?
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>Nyalra and Sally made an anime love letter to 4chan
>/a/ is barely enthused
Typical.
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KAngel LOST
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>>288709853
would you still love me if i was a worm
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>>288709868
Americans are asleep right now, but last thread was very fast for current year /a/ standards.
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>>288708485
No, seriously, what was the purpose of making this?
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>>288709152
I also never see self harm explicitly shown. At most I've only seen shows reference wrist scars and such, or maybe have like wrist slitting in an aura-farm kind of way where a character does some blood move or whatever. But never seen a series explicitly show self harm scars done entirely out of mental illness. They're also detailed very realistically to how they heal over.
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>>288710002
What's the purpose of your post?
You ask like a music video needs a grand reason to exist.
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>>288710002
You're surprised we're getting a music video now after we got one almost every week before?
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>>288710002
Marketing
and also just love for the game I guess
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so where's the uncensored ep?
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I hope all the Carlbros watching this are enjoying it as much as I am.
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>>288708855
when someone suffocates, or drowns, it can be normal to froth at the mouth.
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I got my girlfriend to play this and she ended up crying and shutting it off at the self harm scene. Then she got mad at me and said it reminded her of my ex, and claimed I like the game so much because it obviously reminds me of my ex and I'll never love her as much as I did my ex.

...

I told her Ame actually reminds me of her and she got more angry. Then after a long night of calming her down she apologized and never spoke of it again.
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>>288710236
Stupid anon, you're never supposed to say something reminds you of your ex if she is a jealous girl.
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>>288709356
I never had an imaginary friend either and quite frankly were it not for Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends I would of assumed it was a sign that a kid had schizophrenia rather than something people viewed as normal. Just like how anon here has an imaginary friend gf
>>288710236
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What makes the sight of a menhera taking a diarrhea shit whilst holding a large kitchen knife in a cold, lifeless bathroom so erotic? Why am I so simultaneously aroused and intrigued?
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Ame is full of cum
Mom's yakuza bf cum
Doctor cum
Schoolyard bully cum
A world wide web of cum
this truly is an H-World
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>>288710251
No no, I never said it reminded me of my ex. SHE said Ame reminded her of my ex (who she hates with an utmost passion because).

I corrected her and said I like Ame because she reminds me of her. Then she got more angry. But at the end of it, after she calmed down, she asked me if I hated her and begged me not to leave. But now I'm afraid to watch this in case she catches it on my screen and gets angry.
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>>288710218
I'm still burning.
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>>288707965
You can hit it raw on period days with very little risk of pregnancy
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https://comic-walker.com/search?keyword=にゃるら
I didn't know he made so many manga
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>>288710002
sucking our dicks
which failed because corpo doesn't understand anonymous
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>>288710002
Art does not need a reason to exist.
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>>288709465
People who say this get really fucking pissed when they realise they're the comfortable and find art that disturbs them. It's a retarded idea either way. Art should do whatever the fuck it wants. Trying to impose any kind of arbitrary restrictions or stated goal is nonsense and fundamentally anti art.
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>>288710179
Not out yet. Comes out this Tuesday 3PM UTC.
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God I wish that were me
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>>288710540
She's so sex. Broken girls are the hottest.
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>>288710540
Whoa, her art got way better. Very nice.
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>>288710573
>>288710657
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He hath spoken
https://note.com/nyalra2/n/nb1324c829f2f
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>>288710687
Bravo Nyalra!
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>>288710687
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>>288710687
>the episode was based around nyalra's own bad hallucinations
not sure how to feel about this
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>>288710829
it takes a menhera to write a menhera
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>self insert episode turned out to be the best one
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>>288710829
Needy Girl Overdose is an experience.
Above conventional anime.
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>>288710497
Personally, I see myself as comfortable and I like the art that disturbs. But the way I see it, the aforementioned kind of distrubance is not necessarily the aesthethic one, like shocking imagery or controversial themes, but that of perception. Something that breaks the established norms and grows into the new spaces, alien and strange. Like for example, the themes of online interactions, idolization and internet culture are not uncommon per se these days, but this show goes an extra mile to drive the point home, presenting the more violent side of the subject that other media tend to be more reserved about, and showing that this, too, was possible.
In this context, disturbing can be also explained as unfamiliar, something that, rather than directly giving you what you want, opens the door into the new territory of things you didn't know you might want, something that challenges the limitations of the medium and questions its core. Similarly, the comfortable can be otherwise explained as familiar, grounded, something you come back to when you don't want any new lands to explore. Like the popular local sentiment of people, as they grow older, resorting to simple cute girls shows to escape the turbulence of their lives. Those on land yearn for the sea, and those in the sea yearn for the land, kind of thing. Like magnets, people seek the opposite polarity of their lives, and that is what art provides.
So I think it's not really a restriction, but rather an acknowledgement of what people want and what they get, and why some art resonates with certain people more than the other.
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Where is your trip Nyalra-dono?
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I'm surprised that the Eva references were not from Nyalra. It even sounds like he didn't want any at all.
Well, it came out really nice either way, so there's that.
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>>288706693
This anime literally killed NGO franchise....
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>>288710236
KEK
I sense some complicated feelings there you should probably address with her anon.
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>>288710236
now this is immersion
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>>288710687
No official english TL for this one?
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>>288711107
reminder
>xemono, the NGO developer, signs a bad contract with WSS
>they haven't received royalties since May 2023 and claims they only received their portion of the revenue after initiating legal action, they literally did work for free for WSS because of this
>Nyalra reveals that he WSS threatened to halt the anime production if he did not remove himself from the production and cut ties
>Nyalra and a dev created HazeDenki and are creating their own VN, Sister Other Paranoia
>Aniplex and Yostar pictures have publicly taken Nyalra's side against WSS and Nyalra, even retweeted by the Needy Girl anime account frequently
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>>288711294
forgot to include
>Nyalra and the rest of the team that worked on NGO probably won't do anything to the IP ever again because of WSS, and WSS is milking it hard with merchs
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>>288711294
>Aniplex and Yostar pictures have publicly taken Nyalra's side against WSS and Nyalra
Bro is so schizo he's on both sides of the conflict
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>>288710811
Autism is called "self-isolation syndrome" in Japanese, but "self-isolation" as a term is also used to refer to a symptom of schizophrenia
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>>288711312
I think it was supposed to be "the anime's twitter account retweets Nyalra often", which is true.
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>>288706693
How big are her logs?
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>>288711340
That makes more sense. Cheers.
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>>288710687
claude opus TL for now I guess https://litter.catbox.moe/grurzzgecg31yd5r.txt
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>>288710687
anybody have access to a WOWOW stream?
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>>288711598
nyaa
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>>288711624
>
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>>288711598
Should air in 2 days.
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>>288710687
>>288711504
It continues to be impressive how nyalra is even alive right now.
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Ame will join Karamazov under a new streamer persona.
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>>288711694
it seems he stops seeding after a few weeks
makes sense since the files are huge and the demand is non-existent
next episode stats should be better, now that everyone has their eyes turned towards WOWOW
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>>288710687
>>288711504
>autistic
>sealed-off
which one is it? I'm leaning towards the former
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>>288711816
Read the TL notes at the end of the txt
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>>288711763
I'm delegating this to someone else because I'm a huge faggot but someone really should ask the guy directly to rip this episode in particular since he seems to have not ripped some of then, even though he did rip episode 10
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>>288706693
Can’t she just stream as Ame? Not cutesy persona but just her brooding self? Sounds to me that her putting on a mask as that ángel made her miserable. Or will she just get a normal job?
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>>288711846
>will she just get a normal job?
She won't have to work a day in her life lmao.
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i think i'll wait for the uncensored version
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>>288711816
>Her mistake was her autism—her being sealed off within herself.
Something like this I guess. Not much of a fan of the autistic box rendering.
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In English, finally
https://hazedenki.net/api/Post/Details/needy-anime-11canon-a-3-violinis-con-basso-c-gigue
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>>288711816
>>288711858
oh ur talking about that one. Im pretty sure only the final should get the autism part, preceding are about the box/enclosure.
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>>288711598
It better be truly uncensored and give us Ame nipples.
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BASED
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>>288707886
>Why is she holding a...knife
She's accepted her fate as a jobber, and is trying to stack enough flags to explode.
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>>288711979
Fuck, I posted the version without the crop. Well, whatever
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>>288709868
I'm lovin' it, at least. This show was made for me.
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>>288711979
charge your phone
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Thank you nyalra

>>288711979
charge your phone
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>>288710829
I've had similar experiences with bad shroom trips (minus the getting gangraped by ugly fat bastards part) so I can relate
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>>288712033
What was the support song?
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Ame is a spider and KAngel is a butterfly. Both spiders and caterpillars produce silk. Ame was disgusted with herself and with her life and with humanity, and wrongly convinced everyone else's lives were just as ugly, and so she created something that isn't human to save them and herself. But a spider doesn't become a butterfly just by wrapping itself in silk. KAngel is meant to be something that isn't human, but Ame is human, and confronted with it she's forced to acknowledge that KAngel is as ugly as the rest of them, because she herself is ugly. Now the whole world sees her as human too. So she's metaphorically trying to go back inside her cocoon. Self isolating, taking drugs like how she did when transitioning from her previous delusions to P. But there's nowhere for her to go. KAngel isn't a caterpillar wrapping itself in silk to become something else; she's a butterfly wrapped in a spider's web who's going to melt away and die. Caterpillars melt too when they turn into a chrysalis. The process is similar, just as what Ame is going through now is similar to what she went through before. Her imaginary friends couldn't help her, so she warped her own perception until she believed the newest one could. Ame had someone and no one at the same time, because humans need others but an angel shouldn't. She never believed in friends or family because she never had good experiences with either. Now P is reduced to just another fantasy. She sees she's the same mentally unwell girl she always was. But there's no coming out a butterfly from the cocoon she's in now. Ame is holding her own funeral. The start of the episode shows it literally, coupled with her dissolved body spilling out from the cocoon. Her paranoia is consuming her and she's trying to bury it in drugs, and they're just making everything worse.
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ii ne
yokunai ne
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>>288712086
Her two halves are tearing themselves apart. Ame is disguised by KAngel being human and KAngel is disgusted by Ame making her human. She can't bear the face the world outside. She's terrified of judgement whether real or imagined. She's going to stay inside her cocoon until she dies there.
Lollipop is coming to forcefully rip her out of it before it's too late, to save her like she did and show her a better way exists, and Kache needs to be there because she exists between the two worlds of streamers and normies.
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>>288711878
AIEEEEEEEE
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>>288712105
Lollipop is a damn mary sue
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>>288711979
>3G in 2026
>>288712086
>>288712105
Thanks nyalra, I can finally comprehend wtf's going on now
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>>288711985
Is a chainsaw equivalent to a set of multiple knives for hexing purposes? Is that why she lost despite Purple having a sword?
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>>288711878
>another episode of nyarla forcing himself into his female character
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>>288712086
>>288712105
>killing her imaginary friends up till now
Isn't KAngel killing Ame now, in a reversal of that too? Pretty cool
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>>288712120
Lollipop is based and a hero and if you had a spine she would be an inspiration. Stop saying the mentally ill loser is literally you and start making the normalfag who does the right thing in the face of hardship your role model. Lollipop is a good person to the end and Ame still doesn't believe that's possible. She's a streamer who can actually deal with the weight of fame and one who does so because she has friends to help her. She's everything Ame believes doesn't exist and she's going to be her fucking friend and fix her with the power of being the only sane individual in the room.
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>>288712132
Exactly, you could say it's a vicious cycle of trying to "redirect" the knives at your enemy only to unerringly point them back at yourself.
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>taking a dump onscreen
can't help but remember something rather about using toilet scenes something something is in poor taste
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>>288712193
>start making the normalfag who does the right thing in the face of hardship your role model
Where the fuck do you think you are? Get the fuck off this website right now you disgusting normalfaggot.
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>>288712173
It's weird. You jump from Ame disgusted at K to K beating Ame to death. Sometimes you have Ame with a halo. They're both the same person but being the same person is the source of everything that's gone wrong, and she's drifting through different stages of accepting it and rejecting it.
She echoes Michika in a sense. She also wanted to die to preserve her beauty, but at least she acknowledged that dying meant dying. Ame wants to die as Ame but live as KAngel, but killing one will kill the other. It's always been the problem and the reason she lost. KAngel was always human underneath.
Lollipop won because at the end of the fight, stripped down of everything else both metaphorically and literally, she's still the same person and she still has her friends, while both KAngel and P are part of the illusion Ame built around herself.
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>>288712274
Ame streaming as just Ame would be cool.
Makes me wonder if this can even end in a way that won't be a cheap 'wow all my problems are now fixed' after depicting someone this deeply broken over years. ehh...michika already forgotten
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>>288712247
You are not a menhera. 4chan was never a site for them anyway and especially not its current year incarnation. Stop using your upbringing as an excuse to not be a better person.
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>>288712298
Anyone that's not a normalfaggot is a menhera to you? Again, fuck off normalfag, this site isn't for you!
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>>288712247
>>>288712193
>>start making the normalfag who does the right thing in the face of hardship your role model
>Where the fuck do you think you are? Get the fuck off this website right now you disgusting normalfaggot.
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>>288712293
The Karamazovs live and sleep and shower together. Michika has people she trusts and with her best interest in mind close to her almost always. Getting better is hard but she's acknowledged she has a problem and has a better environment to deal with it than basically anyone else could have, considering she's closer to the other two than most people are to their own family. She can do it.
Ame was constantly on drugs and living alone with her tulpa bf. Not exactly a situation conductive to getting better, which is why she needs an intervention.
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>>288712318
Were you schooled on whole language or is your reading comprehension shit just because you're stupid?
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>>288712352
Oh god now we've even attracted a basedjak poster.
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>>288706693
I got filtered with the Anime.
The game got the comedy right but the Anime takes the schizo stuff too seriously. So i dropped it
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>>288712193
Lollipop's shonen character qualities are played too straight and there's nothing interesting about her character or storyline, it's like she's from a completely different show than the other characters. Though the same goes for all three of the Karamazovs really.
But if they end up being Ame's schizo delusions then it's 10/10 kino
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>>288712401
>Lollipop's shonen character qualities are played too straight
>there's nothing interesting about her character or storyline
Pick one or go back to the early 00s. Characters who are good people are good actually.
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>>288709868
Hey, don't put words in my mouth. I'm greatly enjoying it, just like how I enjoyed the game.
Also, we need more ACTUAL anime that do some interesting shit visually like this. I had almost forgotten what actually putting effort in looked like.
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>>288712442
>I had almost forgotten what actually putting effort in looked like
kanteishi kari had effort and as for visuals yuusha no rokkotsu de is reinventing animation
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>>288712437
If this was your usual shonenslop then I'd pay them no mind but all three of them and especially Lollipop are too idealized and perfect characters where their negative qualities aren't really negatives either. They stick out so much in the show's world that it almost makes me think that there's something more going on with them than the cliche story the show seems to be doing at the moment.
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>>288712437
Being a good person doesn't automatically make one a good character.
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>>288712479
The connection between Lollipop and Ame wasn't explored well at all either, needed to show us how much of an effect on her watching Ame had, meanwhile it was just 'what a cool streamer lol I'd play games with her' - she wasn't saved, there was nothing to save her from...
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She she got doxxed, people invade her home, she hides in the toilet with a knife, they listen to her diarrhea and make fun of her, when she tries to escape they try to rape her, but she keeps shitting and puking so they don't get a chance.
Is that what happened, this episode was really dumb.
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>>288712398
The anime is so incredibly unfunny. Always this forced shit comedy that's completely out of place. Even during this last episode, which is supposed to be a dark mental breakdown episode, they insert these totally off-beat comedy bits like the "Objection" shit during the court scene.
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>>288712398
>the Anime takes the schizo stuff too seriously.
Anon, but it's the same with the game
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>>288711858
>>288711878
Her mistake was, in fact, autism.
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>>288712637
Wonder who does the TLs for it since that's kind of a mistranslation without the other meaning
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>>288712615
Nope, the game is funny as fuck
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>>288712606
Anon using Ame's poop sounds for his edits is the funniest thing ever.
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>>288712676
It's not even clear which language is the right one. I kind of expect Nyalra to be proficient enough in English to be lurking here. It's quite possible that he meant autism and covered it up in Japanese for whatever reason.
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>>288712676
Message nyarla telling him his english sucks.
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>>288712606
Pretty sure the episode wasn’t meant to be funny. It’s seeing someone have a mental break.
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>>288712709
>Whole episode
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>>288710016
>aura-farm
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>>288712702
What?
It's just a simple case of the root of autism being the 'self-closing sickness'. Autism is a secondary meaning here or even unintended by the english standard
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>>288712582
No she imagined most of that because she's mentally ill
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>>288712768
by the english meaning* since we dont collerate autism with isolation like that
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Only lesbian sex with the Karamazov thrupple + Kache can save Ame now. Please look forward to it.
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>>288712702
is hazedenki really reliable?
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>>288712771
Oh so the door bell ringing is just Lolipop and Kache visiting.
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>>288712132
There really is no escape.
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>>288712307
Why do you post this every thread do you want me to eat Michica's ass that bad
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>>288713043
>wanting to eat a druggies ass
Shitty idea
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>>288709868
>>Nyalra and Sally made an anime love letter to 4chan
No, they didn't, their shit is mentally retarded
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>>288712924
They're all "Karamazov" after all.
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I think some shots could be better
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So is there actually going to be an uncensored version?
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>>288713365
Definitely yes for at least some of it.
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>>288713410
If it's not all uncensored it's shit.
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>>288711598
God I need the uncensored so I can jerk off to Ame getting gangbanged by her otaku tulpas
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>>288712080
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxqjzuKjbag
The one with the "anon would you still love me even if I'm not based after all"
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>>288713584
I've tried to listen to this a few times now and I still get a physical cringe reaction
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>>288710236
sperging out like that is exactly what ame would do
poetry
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>>288710299
>>288710236
senpai where do I get an ame gf
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>>288712033
>>288713584
Wait... we have a literal Karen browsing 4chan?!
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KAngel lost
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Worst KusoKino of The Year
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>>288714429
Chill, Michika.
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>>288710687
>I promise it's not eva
>it's eva
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>>288714565
Yeah you can't complain about eva comparions when you are directly referencing it
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>>288712872
It's clearly translated by a human being. Romanization choices are kind of arbitrary.
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>>288711598
what other eps were censored?
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>>288714429
Kusokino is so bad it's good.
"Worst kusokino" would mean it ranks among the bottom of bad shows that still have some redeeming qualities.
How many terrible shows have you watched this year? Why is this worse than the others?

The truth is, NGO is so unfiltered it occupies a superposition of good and bad. How much you enjoy it depends on how many characters' perspectives you can adopt without flinching, how easily you can switch between those perspectives without judging them, how much world knowledge you have to ground their perspectives are, and how much meta knowledge of anime as a medium you have to be able to tell how unique the show's depiction of their perspectives is.

I propose that NGO is kinokuso: so good it's bad to those who can see but who cannot think or feel.
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>>288717469
>their perspectives are*
I accidentally a word. The point still stands.
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The show is good. If you think it's bad or "so bad it's good" or some other retarded shit you should jump off a bridge. It's good in an extremely straightforward way.
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>>288717469
Sit down Nyarla
We know you post here
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>>288717545
I kind of disagree. "Good in an straightforward way" means it's good in such a conventional way that anyone can appreciate it regardless of their background knowledge or how deeply they engage with the work.
Nothing about this show is straightforward or conventional, and you know it.

>>288717591
I wish I was Nyalra.
Nyalra wishes his English was as good as mine.
You wish only one person disagreed with you.
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NGO is enjoyable but I wouldn't call it good. The story is about as subtle with its themes as a brick to the face is and the animation quality ranges from bad to subpar. Music is all around excellent though.
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>The show is good. If you think it's bad or "so bad it's good" or some other retarded shit you should jump off a bridge. It's good in an extremely straightforward way.
To be fair, you have to have a very highlow IQ to understand NGO
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>>288717656
>mfw my post made it in the edit
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>>288717644
NGO is enjoyable, therefore it's good. Subtlety is optional. If you think you're above enjoying unsubtle stories, you are pretentious. The animation quality ranges from conventionally good to wildly experimental, which makes it fucking awesome. Music is all around excellent.
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>>288717644
Anime doesn't do "subtle themes" in general very well. It is at its best when it's using the full force of its audiovisual medium to beat you over the head with the themes in a thousand different ways, which this show excels at doing sometimes.
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>>288717714
It's more like its flaws are so glaring that I can see why people dislike it despite my own enjoyment of the show.
>>288717797
True, but NGO literally has the characters on soapboxes spoonfeeding the writer's thoughts to you. It'd be better if the preaching was toned down and it made use of the visual medium to show its themes rather than tell them.
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>>288714565
tbf, the game had a shitton of 2ch memes and anime references. It's just jarring this time because they're doing the references seriously in the anime. The galactic road was the only one more acceptable for serious parts because it's a classic novel and not an anime reference.
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>>288717634
>"Good in an straightforward way" means it's good in such a conventional way that anyone can appreciate it regardless of their background knowledge or how deeply they engage with the work.
>Nothing about this show is straightforward or conventional, and you know it.
No, actually, this is just a symptom of people being retarded and art being dragged through the mud for decades as the masses were fed endless sanitised slop. Dozens of celebrated works of the past are "weird" by modern standards because people used to be able to treat art with respect instead of being scared little fragile babies unable to leave their comfort zone.
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>>288717469
Its shit. It's a massive fucking turd and the only reason it gets any praise is because it's le different. It's a convoluted mess with no value besides nyarla telling his life story in a poor way through his characters
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>>288717644
I found it boring at some points, but kept on going cause it was an interesting thing to behold. Is it good? That depends on what you value. It is not a show with massive appeal, that is a fact.
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>>288717898
>NGO literally has the characters on soapboxes spoonfeeding the writer's thoughts
It is very soapboxy, but one of the show's biggest strengths is how it disconnects the speaker's and the listener's position from its own narrative framing.
Sometimes a speech represents one character addressing another character. Sometimes it's the author addressing a character. Sometimes it's the author addressing the audience. Sometimes it's the audience's presumed opinions addressing a character.

Let's use P-chan as one example. In one scene, Ame-chan addresses (You), the viewer, as P-chan in the first person. Another scene centers (You)r perspective on Lollipop (Judas) as she watches Ame-chan (Jesus) cuddle a blacked-out (non-existent) P-chan. That strengthens Lollipop's conviction that Ame-chan needs to be liberated from the messianic persona (KAngel) that controls her life, but the moment the loses, she loses her mind as (You), Anon-chan, assault/rape her with accusations (You) would wouldn't dare lob at anyone face-to-face.
What the hell is wrong with (Us)? Are we really worthy of being saved by someone like KAngel? Are we really capable of saving someone like Ame-chan? Could we even save ourselves without them?
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>>288717656
16 Bit Sensation lol
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what the fuck did I just watch?
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>>288719002
A bad trip
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>>288719002
A breakdown of a mentally ill girl
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This anime is bad, and that's what makes it good, but not in a "so bad it's good" sense.
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This anime was so shit I couldn't even enjoy it while drunk and I usually enjoy everything while drunk
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>>288709192
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>>288717469
It's very flawed and nyalra doesn't seem to know the fundamentals of writing. To give a simple example, the motivations of the different characters, especially of Ame, are not clear at all. What is Ame's goal in this anime? Just to exist? Karamazov has a goal at least, to become the number 1 group, but even then what, what are the personal motivations of the other characters really? We know a little about their backgrounds, but for what purpose are they here? There is barely any plot going on, things just happen, and it makes it uninteresting. That's why a lot of anons say "I still don't know what this is about", because the plot is poorly constructed.

It's such a shame, because this anime was a good opportunity to give Ame some depth. They made the mistake of hiring nyalra for anything other than perhaps giving advice. The game was carried by the aesthetics, not the "story" (which is also basically absent, with a very minimalistic plot, although here Ame at least has a goal "become internet famous")
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Adopting Ame-chan.
Headpatting Ame-chan.
Reassuring Ame-chan that it's ok to feel miserable right now but that no one can force her to feel miserable forever.
Researching drug interactions and giving Ame-chan a personalized rehab schedule.
Being there for Ame-chan, no matter how long it takes.
Introducing Ame-chan to supportive friends.
Watching Ame-chan heal.
Maybe marrying Ame-chan one day. Maybe.
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>>288719278
Are stupid or did you just not play the game? Even with the anime the characters' motivations are amply obvious
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>>288719278
The Ghost Concert thread is over there, buddy.
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I'm starting to sympathize with nyalra
>Her mistake was autism.
kek
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>>288719278
>What is Ame's goal in this anime? Just to exist?
What is your goal in this thread? Just to get replies?
KAngel's goal is to save humanity from itself, which is clearly framed as a ridiculous and impossible goal. Ame's goal is to let KAngel save others from what happened to her, which this episode proved to be misguided and impossible.
>the fundamentals of writing
Can you explain in your own words what the fundamentals of writing are?
Because in my own words, they boil down to characters the audience can care about, conflicts the audience can understand, and a path that can guide them from their current position towards achieving their goals (including unexpected twists).
Some stories may have some characters not achieve their goals, but give the audience a measuring stick to understand why they didn't and what they could have done differently.
ANYWAY,
Which boxes does this show not tick for you?
If you have different ideas about what the fundamentals of writing are, what are they?
(I know you were only shitposting. This is mostly meant as a conversation starter for more sincere posters.)
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>>288707886
To scrape off the remains.
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Did Michika get saved just so they could have Lollipop fail to help Ame? Se we get a “you can’t save everyone” ending?
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>>288719653
it's a mistranslation about isolation
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>>288710573
>She's so sex. Broken girls are the hottest.
We also need more broken android girls. Imagine playing with their dismembered parts while they're still "active"
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>>288720216
I think that's where it's going.
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>>288719932
>KAngel's goal is to save humanity from itself, which is clearly framed as a ridiculous and impossible goal.
And then nothing is done with this. She just exists. She doesn't move towards any goal in this anime.

My point is that there is no overarching plot. People just exist in this anime. This makes it unengaging. They jump around characters, with vague motivations, and never really give them much depth. It always remains superficial.

There are more things which I find shit about this anime, like the totally off-beat comedy and the abstract representation that just makes things confusing, without actually providing depth. But it's obvious you already boxed me into being a shitposter, because I gave criticism about your shitty anime, nyalra.
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>>288720881
She’s already the top, there’s nothing for her to move towards. That’s why the anime was building up to Karamazov beating her.
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>>288720360
Anon... >>288719959
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>>288720881
People will say this and then watch Gochiusa
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>>288721315
What? It's still about the isolation aspect of it, not autism. I guess the imouto game is gonna be more of the same.
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>>288720881
>And then nothing is done with this. She just exists. She doesn't move towards any goal in this anime.
this. Its so fucking flat and not in a good (chesto!) way
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>>288721396
You're problem is that you wanted an anime where Ame is the protagonist. She's a lot more active and mutable than many an anime villain but you're still too stupid to understand that's her role in the narrative. The stagnation of her position is the point but you still think the character who's barely on screen for entire episodes and rarely gets the POV spot is the protagonist.
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>>288721004
>building up
Very generous way to put it.
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>>288721504
no. I didn't even play the game. Everything is just poorly set up, like even the friendship between Karamazov - we dont see why's Michika such good friends/borderline couple with the uhh, whatever her name was. Purple resonating with them was also kind of random? It only works because the author said it did and moved on. It's fake and stiff and that's why it comes off as merely nyalra's autobiography in a different format, him listing off his interests and events from the past through these non-characters.
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>>288720881
>She just exists. She doesn't move towards any goal in this anime.
Yeah anon it's almost like her goal was foolish in the first place and she was not in a good position to chase it and the anime is criticizing it and pointing out how she became a stagnant rotting god that must be shot down by Karamazov (in the same way she never achieves happiness or fulfillment by chasing her streamer goals in the game)
Fucking hell it's always the stupidest people acting like they're the smartest and above it all, calling things pretentious while failing to understand them even on a basic level.
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>>288706693
>>288706870
Your shit gets pretty nasty after magic shrooms. And I can only imagine mixing it with strawberry milk makes it even worse
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>>288720881
What did you expect her to do exactly, become a corrupt politician with a private army of cyborgs and a tech-enchanced body that could topple buildings to overtake the government?
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>>288721566
Stop watching anime on your second screen. Unironically it's clear you lack the ability to process information at a normal rate so for your own good watch the dub, because it seems you can't keep up with the subs and the visuals together so you're just losing chunks of info.
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>>288721591
>>288721743
I literally spelled it out for you. I'm talking about how it is written, not the contents of it. But (You) are either missing the point because you don't like criticism of your precious anime, or just genuinly stupid.
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>>288721833
Your point is that it's not what you wanted it to be. It's not supposed to be a melodrama.
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>>288722154
I'm not even sure this anon wants melodrama as much as he wants some sort of plot / plot progression, but that kind of thing is so obviously not what NSO is going for nor is it present in any of its main influences.
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Wait what- wasn't there an episode yesterday (or two days ago, not sure, didn't sleep). Is this a leak or was I two episodes behind?
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>>288722441
Anon, everyone is discussing the latest episode, ep.11, Canon a 3 Violinis con Basso c. / Gigue. If you aren't on that one yet then you are behind.
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Absolutely insane ep, AOTS
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lmfao
jeets catching strays again
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>>288723341
This is not a jeet thing retard it's formal otaku speech
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What could cause such trip?
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>>288723691
Given the huge focus on Ame chewing the fuck out of straws, her general staying slightly high to feel good about stuff vibe, and Nyalra's slight penchant for underground counterculture adjacent stuff and music I'm going to say he was doing MDMA often and that time he took too much.
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>>288723850
where do you even get this kind of thing
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>>288723876
The same as any other drug: know the right people or live in the right place
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>>288723876
I'm pretty sure people still do Molly at raves nowadays. In terms of how "hard" of a drug it is (or it's socially perceived as) it's above weed but it's below cocaine I'd say, it's definitely more of a party drug. Might be less popular than crack though, but >crack
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>>288723914
shit sucks I never got to try drugs at all due to just not hanging out with the right people I guess
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>>288723945
You're better off not trying most of them and some should be easy enough still, especially the more legal ones.
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>>288723691
>>288723850
Probably lsd, going by some of the other stuff he said in the post
>I don't want to just feel good, I want to go on a trip
>If I were going to slip in a drug reference, it'd be a rainbow-colored stamp
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>>288723914
This. In high school some black guy I hung out with in gym class randomly told me he could get me any pills or drugs if I ever wanted
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>>288724132
Why not both?
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>>288717469
>how much world knowledge you have to ground their perspectives are
so I'm only able to enjoy this anime because I have no life and therefore I have no standards for how these women should act?
yeah that checks out
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>>288721566
I thought this too
the relationship between karamazov feels very surface level and I wouldn't say forced but flat
the characters themselves are weird, nechika being the worst one who is a walking movie cliche with the thought family was bad but was good thing, I don't think the purple one has had anything at all really other than beating? the streamer she likes which brings me to my final point of why is the climax of this series some weird stream off despite ame herself being grounded in reality for the most part. I can only assume the last 2 episodes are either going to be some dumb meta trick or just bad
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>>288706743
What do you mean, of the anime I'm watching only this and Kamiina Botan had threads hitting bump limit the day they aired.
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>>288725067
Great minds conceive of thoughts alike.
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Haven't seen an anime divide anons between it being either "the second coming of sliced bread" or "liquid dog diarrhea" in a while.
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>>288725369
The vast majority of new anons are second monitor speedwatchers who struggle to process anything even halfway experimental or that requires you to actually focus on it.
Personally I think this is the best thing aired since Ishuzoku Reviewers.
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>>288718250
The fact is, a work of art is simply not gonna argue its message with mathematical rigor, which means there's always the possibility that the viewer is not gonna be convinced by the message through no fault of their own, which would obviously damper enjoyment. This is the problem that present their message strongly and explicitly.
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>>288726011
>"The inherent meaning of art doesn't matter as much as what you take from it"
- literally this show
The real issue is that people want to be spoonfed what the show's "meaning" is instead of putting in effort to think about what they're seeing and coming to their own conclusions.
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>>288710497
This. Although I think that most art in general is trying to be comfortable anyway. That mentality of wanting to make other people uncomfortable for the sake of it is disruptive and against the spirit of art and beauty.
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>>288726183
The problem isn't taking a different meaning than intended, it's taking a meaning you don't value.
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Subtext is for LOSERS!
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need menhera wife
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This is my #3 anime of the season. It's completely retarded but also entertaining as fuck. All this hate is hilarious.
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>>288706693
>>288706870
>Girls will see this and think “Shitterly pee”
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Bold of them to start the new episode with a Youtube Poop edit of the OP
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>>288726533
Normalfags and pseuds feel attacked by this anime. Idk how Nyalra did it
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>>288708485
Using 'Anon' is too far
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>>288711846
>Can’t she just stream as Ame? Not cutesy persona but just her brooding self? Sounds to me that her putting on a mask as that ángel made her miserable. Or will she just get a normal job?
Ame-chan is both too disgusted by her own existence and sees kangel as the ideal form an internet angel should be, she would need Kache to tardwrangle her into submission before they even start to address her many many traumas (again I don't understand wtf Kache is even meant to do here, double team ame with lollipop? Ntr scene while lollipop watche? Nyalra pls)
ironically her brooding self could definitely make waves, michika is such an example of success underneath a capable leader like lollipop, but ame is terrified of exposing herself to that degree, she is just hallucinating herself being gang raped by her haters because Karamazov won a nothing burger music fight
But the idea of doing it again but without the whole weight of being the Internet angel, with people she can start to trust and care for her is a start of healing, she doesn't need to cut herself from the internet, the solution is more banal and boring, therapy and probably Kache again I guess kek
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>>288706693
No one wants to watch a streamer poop live on air, right?
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Defeated woman sex
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>>288712606
Suit Ame was sex though
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Our angel is in jail...
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Alice-chan noooooooo!
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>>288727980
Well, hopefully Ame does end up in a better situation by the end. Part of me kinda wishes for her life to end in tragedy, but the other wants to see her get better. Two more episodes to see the grand conclusion of this alternative ending to her life.
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Girlfailure impregnation, surely she will become the mother she wished she had
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Kache is the heroine!
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>you must fix her
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>>288728178
I don't want your stinking lemons.
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>>288728135
>Part of me kinda wishes for her life to end in tragedy, but the other wants to see her get better.
I feel it won't end with ame dying simply because doing so it would be the same as Nyalra saying he should have killed himself too, ame IS Nyalra and I feel with lollipop being such example of positivity and Kache an example of the normie good fren people like Nyalra need to keep it together and break past their self-destructive bullshit, the ending will be very much a happyish one, definitely will make some folk disappointed but Kache has absolutely zero purpose here if lollipop fails now.
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>>288709931
>this fucking template
>except it's these chucklefucks
Anon you have no fucking idea how much I appreciate this image, thank you
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>>288728148
Would having babies make her happy?
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>>288728251
Hope it is tackled in a realistic manner. Would be disappointed if Ame gets better with a few words of encouragement. This is why I enjoy this anime. I have no idea how it will all end. Here is hoping things end on a happy note instead of a sad one. Maybe Kache will pull through in a way that will help Ame? Anyway, just another week to see how it all turns out.
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Did anyone make/save a video of the performance version of Silver 30
The music video is nice but it just doesn't cut it
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>>288719164
It's a "so good it's bad" anime
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>>288708485
It really is.
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>>288728251
So what the fuck is Kache even going to do? How does she even relate to Ame in any way?
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>>288729663
Kache's plot (or lack of thereof) is the weakest part of this anime. At the beginning I thought she was going to slowly descend into madness like a parallel to Ame or something but she just did nothing after her "self-actualization". Then she's portrayed as an emotional anchor to Michica. She is just as vain as the other girls but somehow it works out for her and just improves her life? I don't know what the fuck Nyalra is trying to say with her character.
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>>288725763
Ah yes, Ishuzoku Reviewers, very experimental and requiring you to actually focus on it.
This show does have interesting experimental things especially visually but it's just explaining to you what it is about to your face. It's not really a matter of having to think about it, but rather about not finding it absolutely mind-numbing.
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>>288711109
It's been 10 years lol, not much to address really. She's not over my ex and, and I'm not sure there's anything I can do about her comparing herself to the ghost of a girl she hardly knew from a decade ago. I've just learned to avoid minefields as best as I can. Sometimes they unexpectedly come up like in the case of Needy Streamer, which I in no way even thought would be able to connect to my ex. I love my gf more than anything, she just doesn't grasp that when she has her episodes. For reference, my ex was a very manipulative and bad person, but she knows how to wrap people around her finger and get has no moral qualms over harming others to get her way. Very disgusting person. I do not like my ex one bit - but my current gf hates my ex with an obsessive passion more than I ever could.
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>>288713866
Unironically 4chan. We met from some random anon spamming their shitty Discord server somewhere and kicked it off before the server imploded on itself from the admin spamming CP.
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Think this thread will live to the uncensored release of Episode 11?
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is lsd good?
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>>288708485
wow that is very not good
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I blame Ame for giving me a boner for her cutting scars. This show is kinda of a bad influence.
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The game was better desu.
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Place your bets. Will there be Ame nipples?
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>>288730999
Yea. Cured my depression.
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>>288731760
No.
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>>288731760
They will be in Lolipop's mouth.
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>>288728163
Fixed
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my sister is ame. the entire family is terrified of her. not because of what she can do to you, but because of what she can do to herself. so everyone just tries to avoid ever triggering her and she's too broken to hold a job or any real role in society. she's 37 and lives with my parents and her 26 year old bf who is also unemployed. not because he's unemployable, but because if she's without him for like 6 hours her mental state drastically deteriorates. so my parents have essentially accepted him as their in-home babysitter for her. he's a pretty well put together guy as far as i see. cooks for her and picks up after her. im glad i got out of that household.
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>>288731972
is she pretty though
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>>288731922
I wonder if Kache has pubes.
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I dropped this show after 2 episodes, did it get any better or is every episode just Nyalra jacking off into his own mouth for 24 minutes?
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>>288732173
The latter. Even more obvious if you read the blog.
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>>288706693
So, that just happened.
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>>288708485
Regardless of the quality of the song, it was really nice of them to do something thinking of the western fans.
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>>288731972
wife
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>>288728048
Don't underestimate degenerates.
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>>288728048
An idol streaming her diarrhea session would go viral like crazy actually.
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>>288730728
If anyone even bothers uploading a recording...
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>>288731760
I don't know, but if there won't I'll automatically drop my rating for the show by 1 point.
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Needy Girl Overdose: You can (not) fix her
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Kache was blessed by the physiologically calming effect of being stuffed with boyfriend cum. She'll get crazier the longer she goes without having it given to her.
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>>288723945
You can just buy drugs online with crypto or even just do DXM since that's legal over the counter in lots of places.
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>>288732173
the latter no matter how much the endlessly retarded and contrarian modern /a/ users in this board and thread keep pretending that they have opinions worth having
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>>288723945
Like other anon said most of them are not worth doing, and the few ones that are perhaps worth it to do sporadically are in a social context, like xtc and weed (don't smoke weed by yourself or you'll become a stoner quickly). Shrooms/lsd might be good solo, don't know, but you'd preferably still need a tripsitter for your first time(s).
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>>288732173
>>288732182
>>288732674

see >>288727183
lmao
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>>288732735
Fun trash is still trash anon.
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>>288732755
and it's fun
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>>288726533
this
it's fun and i like seeing mentally unstable women in anime
it's definitely flawed, but i think i don't mind it too much because it feels like an autistic sincerity from nyalra and the anime team, it feels like a friend of the same interests who creates a manga/anime, and while it's not perfect, it has all the usual tropes you like
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>>288729663
Kache is going to pin down Ame's malnourished drug addict body with her fat cow tits and ass.
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So, Ame poops now. That's a thing she can do now I guess!
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>>288732755
fun things are fun
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>>288709465
You have a point
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>>288729905
I've never seen a response so perfectly encapsulate exactly what the previous poster was describing, whilst being utterly oblivious to the fact. Thank you for the wide grin I currently have while posting this, Anon.
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>>288732821
>i don't mind it too much because it feels like an autistic sincerity from nyalra and the anime team
This.
I much prefer seeing something flawed that is an obvious product of love than some bland corporate slop.
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>>288733119
You need to understand that for over 30 years the majority of the US was duped into teaching kids vibes based reading (whole language) instead of phonetics and people didn't wake up to the issue until Covid had the kids doing lessons at home and the parents realised they couldn't read. About a third of US adults are functionally illiterate and most of the rest still don't know how to read properly. Your time on the Internet is spent arguing with people who were instructed to look at the start and end of each word and then divine their meaning from the aether. It's why audiobooks and podcasts became so popular.
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>>288733119
>>288733275
>he doesn't like what I like so he's stupid
Amazing discourse. Now this is the true 4channel experience.
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>>288733298
Don't forget complaining about the US out of nowhere.
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Despite Ame not getting raped, her mother caring more about being "cheated" than her daughter almost getting raped is somehow just as fucked in another way
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>>288733298
Actually it's "he conflated two parts of the post that had nothing to do with each other because he lacks basic reading comprehension and speedreads"
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>>288733348
i agree
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>>288733348
Her mother is fucked in the head, if throwing into the trash her kid's plushie didn't make it clear enough
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>>288733592
Is menheraness genetically transmitted?
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>>288733348
Ame’s mother failed her and now her daughter is dealing with the aftermath of her shitty decisions. Awful woman for sure.
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>>288733843
Not genetically, but mentally ill parents do tend to set an example thus creating mentally ill children.
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>>288726533
>>288732821
>>288733229
same
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>>288734215
I don't get this performative "it's flawed but I like it" mentali of needing to preface something has problems just because others dislike it, without actually saying what those are. Literally every anime has flaws, it came for free with the inherent imperfection of human nature. You don't need to feel pressured into prefacing your liking of som with a condemnation for it. Much more popular shows have bigger flaws but no one feels the need to always bring them up when saying they like those. "I like it in spite of its flaws" is the default assumption. Fuck what people say. I like NGO. I think it's good. If they want to argue otherwise they should bring some actual arguments forward and not just subjective notions of how they were filtered by the structure or don't like the topic. Kache being underused is an actual problem so far. The narration being disjointed is not. You're just stating a deliberate fact about the show with no inherent good or bad quality. Same with "the show is about streamers."
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>>288733119
>Thank you for the wide grin I currently have while posting this, Anon.
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>>288735033
I mean, the alternative is to let the threads be filled with people shitting on the show because they don't understand it. Simply saying "I like it" doesn't lead to discussion.
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>>288735033
Not everyone likes the show as much as you, or wants to rant endlessly about why.
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Watched every episode out so far and I've come to the conclusion that this is just Worker & Parasite in anime form.
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>>288733119
>Thank you for the wide grin I currently have while posting this, Anon
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>>288735374
>>288735534
Someone seems upset.
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>>288735453
Then why the FUCK are you lurking and posting in a thread made specifically for that purpose?
It's like going to a bar and getting mad at all the people drinking.
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>>288712401
>But if they end up being Ame's schizo delusions then it's 10/10 kino
I would have said it's impossible because we see nechika's brothers and father, but given Ame's imagination, she very well could have come up with the entire karamazov trio, their backstories, hell they are all very strangely connected to kangel and ame too even though it makes zero sense here, each of them represent something Ame is desperately searching for too, a fan's loving adoration in Lollipop, who is not only strong enough to push back against kangel and ame-chan's bullshit, but still loves her AME first, and not kangel, goodness in the form of nechika, her father being a flawed but good man and no mom's bullshit to get in the way, mechika who thankfully had a friend to ground her worst impulses and searches for beauty.
If karamazov is a product of ame's imagination that is helping ame to calm the fuck down it will make watching it again pretty fun
That's why they NEED kache, she is the only one outside of ame's imagination that can push through ame's bullshit
yes I know I'm wrong, but it was fun to think about it, this ep was depressive as it was
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>>288735405
No, no, the alternative is saying you like the show AND telling those people to kill themselves for being tasteless mouthbreathing retards incapable of mustering and articulating a single complex thought to give substance to their feelings.
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Michika* >>288735602 my brain is still recovering my drinking yesterday
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>>288735033
>If they want to argue otherwise they should bring some actual arguments forward
>"your criticism is subjective"
>brings no actual argument forward
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>>288735626
The anime sucks.
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>>288733119
>>288733352
actually the way you mention ishizoku reviewers there does kinda hint at ishizoku reviewers being experimental. His reading comprehension is correct, what he failed at was understanding that wasn't your point and just poor phrasing.
Embarrassing
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The joke of this week's 4koma is that it would have been inappropriate to joke about anything in the episode.
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>>288735903
That's two different people and you're also wrong.
>>288735800
The post literally has an example of a non-subjective criticism that highlights an actual flaw the show has but you couldn't be bothered to read that far.
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>>288736123
>my criticism is objective
>your criticism is subjective

Great insight, thank you for the contribution.
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>>288736187
Yes. Once you grow up enough and consume enough media you learn to distinguish the two. That's why Disney has invested millions in using social media to brainwash people into thinking all criticism is actually subjective and all critics are hacks so they can keep pumping out slop. Objective media criticism exists. If your brain hasn't developed to the point where you can tell the two apart then no amount of examples or explaining will help solve that.
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>>288736300
Amazing insight again. Thank you for being the one anon with great objective criticism.
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>>288736534
You're welcome.
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>>288736300
>That's why Disney has invested millions in using social media to brainwash people into thinking all criticism is actually subjective
Posts and people this retarded are why I still come to 4chins.
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>>288735626
You seem mentally deficient. Good luck with that.
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>>288736300
>>288736123
Kache being underused is an extremely subjective, biased opinion. Seems to me that you simply can't see beyond your own views.
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>>288736300
What? Do you think your hypothetical "objective media critics" wouldn't disagree about things? Like ever?
You know even mathematicians have disagreements sometimes, right?
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>It's bad because it doesn't follow the formula!
Summarized all the criticism the show is getting. You people might as well be complaining it doesn't follow the Hero's Journey or the Aristotelian Law of Unities.
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>>288736860
Anon, I like the show but that's not even what the criticism is about and you're a colossal dumb retard.
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>>288736860
>You people might as well be complaining it doesn't follow the Hero's Journey or the Aristotelian Law of Unities
That's literally what's happening with Lollipop. If anything the show follows premade theories too much.
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>>288707886
Literally answered by a doujin in 06. Get with the program zoomer
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>>288736123
>That's two different people and you're also wrong.
I wish I was, it would spare me the anger at being angry at retards. Best I can give you is that his interpretation was bot-tier autistic since it's normally obvious from context, despite the writing suggesting otherwise.
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>>288736618
You think it's a coincidence that both the manchild social media "let people enjoy things" push and the public's forced distaste for critics happened at the same time as the MCU?
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This thread really went to shit. Guess it won't be around for the uncensored ep to drop.
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>>288736897
>The vast majority of new anons are second monitor speedwatchers who struggle to process anything even halfway experimental or that requires you to actually focus on it.
>Personally I think this is the best thing aired since Ishuzoku Reviewers.
If you think this implies IR is experimental you're stupid. The only way the two sentences could be more separate is if they had an empty line between them. Separate paragraphs means separate conceptual units. Learn to read.
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>>288736785
>Do you think your hypothetical "objective media critics" wouldn't disagree about things?
If someone disagrees with what's right then they're wrong and not worth paying attention to. You should hang yourself for being a godless moral relativist. The Lord's existence implies objective truth to be real.
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>>288737065
i'm willing to bet no one here will record it and we'll have to wait until november
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>>288737122
I love how you can't tell if this is the same schizo or someone trying to make him look retarded.
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>>288737065
I'm sorry for making the post that started this dumb argument (>>288725369).
But ironically, I feel validated a bit. People are reacting too strongly either way.
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>>288737122
Funny post
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>>288737259
That's because your brain isn't developed enough yet.
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>>288733348
these kinds of girls are born from mothers who are often egotistical bitches. even moreso if there's no father figure in the house, or the father is busy working 24/7 and can't curb the mother's bitchiness.
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>>288737065
Just make a new one when it drops, if this one is dead by then. It's not illegal to have another thread.
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>>288737084
Right.
>The vast majority of diners today are fast-food addicts who struggle to appreciate complex, avant-garde culinary techniques that require a refined palate.
>Personally, I think this is the best restaurant to open since Taco Bell.
Are you seeing it now?
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>>288737122
>If someone disagrees with what's right then they're wrong!!!
Right is impossible to define and you are a retarded simpleton. The earth being flat used to be considered "right" you know.
Your line of reasoning is a poor excuse to justify your own opinions always being "right".
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I've been waiting for this to end before I watch it all. Are there uncensored versions of every episode, or just this episode in particular needed censoring? Need to know if I have to throw out the entire batch I downloaded up until now or not. But I don't see any [Uncensored] uploads of the episodes anywhere. Ishuzoku Reviewers had uncensored and censored episodes and I remember that was a pain to deal with initially when I accidentally downloaded the wrong batch.
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When's the uncensored airing anyway? Tomorrow?
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>>288737556
Only episode 11 is currently censored.
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>>288737568
21 1/2 hours from now.
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My dad works for Panda Express and managed to get the uncensored version of the episode early for me. There are indeed Ame nipples! And even a creampie! :)
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>>288737660
Needy Girl Overdose? More like Creamy Girl Overdose. Heh.
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>>288737658
thanks clocknon
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>>288737533
>Right is impossible to define
Wrong. God is objective truth.
>flat Earth
Was not even actually a fucking thing. Earth being roughly spherical was calculated back during ancient Greece because you can intuit it's true by seeing how ships sink on the horizon. Learn some history you goddamned mongoloid.
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>>288737780
>Earth being roughly spherical was calculated back during ancient Greece
Okay so people thought it was flat before that, or at the very least deliberated over what was "right" or "wrong". What's your point, retard?
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>>288737871
>people thought it was flat before that
No they fucking didn't. Every single sea faring civilisation (read "every civilisation worth anything") throughout history knew it was curved. Flat Earth is entirely modern retardation born from people like you incapable of opening a book and obsessed with the idea that truth isn't real
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>NGO is bad because I don't like vtubers
>NGO is bad because Ame isn't always on screen
>NGO is bad because Lollipop follows the Hero's Journey
>NGO is bad because cavemen didn't know how planets work
Incredible set of arguments so far.
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>>288737934
>Sea faring civilization
There was a time before civilizations were sea faring, to align with your claim then, they wouldn't have discovered Earth was round.
I still don't see your point.
You are a retard, and that's the oBjEcTiVe tRuTh. Don't disagree with what's right, because I'm right, and you're wrong and not worth paying attention to.
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>show references art pieces and famous directors
"Relying on references is bad"
>show references Eva
>the thread loves it
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>>288738207
The Eva reference was not Nyalra's idea so it is OK to like it.
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>>288738371
That's what Nyalra wants you to think.
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>>288738016
>"You hate it because it doesn't follow standard structures"
>Actually it follows standard structures (the Hero's Journey)
>"You people hate it because it follow standard structures"
You're a special breed of retarded, aren't you?
Fascinating how it takes only one dumb monkey like you to ruin a thread.
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>>288738860
That's because modern channers can't help but take the obvious bait.
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>>288738207
>>288738371
The show is overloaded with references and quotes. Then is up to the viewer to recognize and appreciate or reject them.
I think that the Eva/Gojira one is all in all an harmless attempt to tone down the brutality of the scene. During the first Michika's ep, I think the Fragonard picture was on point but the Juda's reference was outplaced.
All the Juda's comparison is somehow wrong for me (I was expecting something like the "King of the wood").
But I liked the Thelma e Louise jump and the double-sided Yurikuma based "condemnation to exclusion".
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i wanna have sex with Ame no matter how many stinky diarhea drug induced poops and fan dicks have been inside her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ugh
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Splooging to lollipop
Impregnating Michica
tifucking Nechika
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>>288726300
>I hate doing something as animalistic as running
Smashing windows with a baseball bat is maximum civilized though
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Lollipop had to bring Kache along because Michi and Nechi were busy fucking like rabbits to celebrate their victory.
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>>288741014
Michika is just a retard wrapped in her own world who just says shit to look cool, don't mind her
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>KAngel is just kinda there not doing anything or going anywhere
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Guys, why is Ame-chan so hot?
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>>288742307
based lollipop
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>>288742467
My fucking Hero.
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>>288742780
Her relationship with Ame does fit that terminal surprisingly well actually.
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>>288732821
>it's fun and i like seeing mentally unstable women in anime
We used to have so many mentally unstable women in anime, but then something happened in the early 00s and their numbers decreased dramatically so I'm glad we're going back to the good old days.
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>uncensored episode is PG12 in Japan
>meanwhile the censored one is TV-MA in the US
I don't want to sound like a puritan or culturally insensitive but it's bizarre seeing something with so many universally restricted themes, topics and visuals being given such a low age rating.
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>>288741014
Smashing the school windows is practically a euphemism for delinquency at this point, every school has a legend of that one really bad student who did it. It's such an old trope that it's been parodied for decades, I remember seeing it in the first season of Minami-ke way back in 07.

>>288744553
American haet nudity, more at eleven.
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>>288744553
It's news to me there's an uncensored episode, I figured all the censored parts of this episode were for the bit
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>>288745233
They did a good job making it seem that way.
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>>288744553
>>288745297
What do we even know is getting uncensored?



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