>no lasting impact>no good games>no fanbase >early good parts retroactively ruinedIs there a more buckbroken manga?
>>288740924I don't like Bleach but Ichigo really is an underrated protagonist
>>288740924>Naruto>not a little bitch>simps for sasuke 24/7 and has a panic attack over people wanting him to hold him accountable for his crimes
>>288741008At the end of the day, he finds a hole where he can unload, repeatedly, his frustrations. The other guy at most has to the kids in the class not to throw things at him when he's writing on the board.
>>288741008>why yes, i intentionally misrepresent story beats, how could you tell?
>>288740924pretty sure all the best demon slayers died.
>>288740924>gets "the girl"More like "a girl" for Naruto.
>>288741159he became het. so that's a good thing. Abe approved.
>>288740924>>288741122Kill yourselves, tourists.
>>288740924But enough about Demon Slayer and its nonexistent impact
>shounenshitfuck off faggot
>>288741159>ino is an unlovable whore that settles for a guy without emotions >sakura is... sakura>tenten is a femcel>shikaGODu made sure no man had a chance with temari
>>288740924Lmao at the brownoid xitter tourist trying to sneak that bitch Tanjiro in there.
>>288740924>is sexy>Yes
MHA really mindbroke one dude on this board huh>no lasting impactThere are a half dozen Deku clones in Weekly Jump alone
>>288741427>there are "people" on this board RIGHT NOW that are so young that they think dekek is an original character
What a weird larp Jeremy
>>288740924MHA has more impact than Demon Slayer my minbroken little cuck.
>>288740924Aren't you forgetting someone?
>>288740924>Is there a more buckbroken manga?Where were you, boy?
Every other big other big manga seems to end as a disaster now
>>288740974>Ichigo>Protagonist of one of the Big Three>Underrated
Bnha has been complete garbage since it began, pretty much the only good thing you can say about it is that it has some hot girls.
>ITT: The MHA Colored AKA Jeremy seethes at Kimetsu no Yaiba
>>288741409>Bunny deku>That bulge Based Homokoshi. Feeding the trannies and fujos well
>>288742609>pretty much the only good thing you can say about it is that it has some hot girlsFT can relate to that.
>>288742423Chainsaw man was never good. Redditroons pretended to like it because it was safe-cool, like frieren
>>288742680What set him off this time? There's been a bunch of falseflag threads.
>>288742782"b-b-b-but muh death battle!"
>>288742782>thinking part 1 of Chainsaw Man wasn't goodJust say it, anon. Say "I'm a contrarian faggot and I love to suck cocks". Do it.
>>288742339>cucky Asta the axed bitchEveryone forgot about him and Blacked Clover, not just OP.
>>288742874>>288742907>J's chimping outThe truth hurts, huh?
>>288742680>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DON'T MAKE FUN OF MY SHONENSLOP MIDMETSU NO YAIBA IS HECKIN KINO ESE, ONLY A CABRON LIKE JEREMY WOULDN'T LIKE IT O ALGO
>>288742956>cuckmaker AstaFTFY Also, his story finished. On a high note. It was not axed.
>>288740924Ichigo becomes a little bitch and quits taking the initiative after the Soul Society arc, and especially after the Hueco Mundo arc has begun. It's a shame, he was pretty cool and a good lead character for the setting until then.
>>288743237BASED! Natsu deserves it.
>>288740924Nothing of this matter, you only win if you make babies, is the only thing that matter in life.
>>288740924
>>288741008>be such a chad that you can tell people to fuck off and leave your terrorist buddy aloneIts kind of based if you think about it
>>288741427Remember to wait to push the "soft-seinen" approach.
>>288740924I've watched all those anime series except Boku no hero. Just from looking at the character designs and the fact that it's about superheroes, it seems very childish to me, aimed at elementary school kids. That's why I've never watched it and don't feel like watching it.
>>288742747>filenameCan I still slide my meat between her asscheeks while kissing her?
>>288740924>not a little bitch >takes the initiative >gets the girlNaruto
>>288740974True, I started rewatching Bleach a few months ago (and haven't really been in a rush to keep watching) and I realized Ichigo is basically a chad>Locally known and respected for being athletic af>Has friends of both genders>Isn't simping over some girl who he's afraid to admit his feelings to/rejects him daily>Isn't an asexual goofball either>Big titty gf>Isn't crying all the time>Is a genuinely good person while still being able to stand up for himself and not get walked all over by everyone>Childhood trauma without being an annoying/brooding little faggot about it 24/7It's rare to see a shonen protagonist be such a well adjusted member of society.
>>288745265No wonder he's the least popular of the big 3 protags; he's everything chuds are NOT.
>>288741008At least Naruto got to beat the shit out of Sasuke not like Deku never stopped sucking Kachan's dick
>>288742423I will never forgive Fujimoto for not letting Denji fuck and impregnate Yoru
>>288746026Deku and Bakugo fought and I was expecting them to finally start treating each other more like equals and instead Bakugo kept Deku like a little bitch and Deku became his unabashed submissive little faggot. I think this was when I started giving up on Deku and the hope of MHA ever really becoming something great. I really liked it at first but as it went on it just got harder and harder to enjoy.
>>288742339Deku's manga is over four times as big as Asta's lmao. Assta should be picking fights with Aladdin or the guy from Blue Exorcist.
>>288741350This one made xim seethe
This is the most brown and black thread on the board right now.
>>288746235but enough about Dragonball.
>>288747424Actually, that would be Demon Slayer since OP tried to sneak the MC in while seething impotently over BnHAIronically, his series probably has the most ethnic audience. DBZ, Naruto and Bleach has a balanced demographic (though Bleach leaned more towards female). Demon Slayer's leaned heavily towards male and Latino/Hispanic audiences
>>288740924Decuckbros...
>>288742423We love SCUMji here
>>288746070This. Fujimoto couldn't have the rapebugs show up AFTER Denji gave Yoru the creampie she was asking for throughout Part 2?
>>288742737https://files.catbox.moe/ykoisa.png
Also, I'll answer here since I fell asleep on the last thread and I'll get an answer anyway>>288742966No and I never claimed studios hold theaters "hostage" at gunpoint. My point is that standard industry practice for wide releases specifically minimum play and holdover clauses can be detrimental to smaller or mid tier films. When a front loaded movie experiences a brutal 2nd weekend drop, it "rots" screens that are contractually obligated to keep playing it. This creates significant opportunity costs, as those screens cannot quickly pivot to potential grower films that might have better word of mouth momentumLong runs, like those seen in Japan, can be organic. But the domestic theatrical model is heavily influenced by these contractual requirements. You can see details on these practices herehttps://theankler.com/small-town-theaters-crowd-pleaser-letterboxd-issue-3/https://clarkfilmbuying.com/studio-requirementshttps://www.justice.gov/atr/page/file/1102561/dl?inline=Big difference: MT opened in 1600+ theaters while IC opened in 3000+ theaters. A movie opening in 3000+ theaters will naturally earn more and likewise a movie suffering a 75%+ sophomore drop signals that it burned through its core fanbase immediately. Avatar sequels had stronger sustained legs than IC's drops precisely cause they pulled in casual viewers over months via WOMI'm sorry but a 75% drop is not a subjective metric and it's not up for debate. It's a clear industry indicator of being highly front loaded. Even the most successful anime films still just function as niche fan events at the end of the day. They excel at monetizing a dedicated base through premium pricing and sheer enthusiasm, but they have not yet achieved the broad, sustained, general audience crossover typical of mainstream Hollywood tentpoles. The distinction between deep fan penetration and wide casual appeal is the core of my point
Get lost borutofag
god he is still going about the fucking movie it's insanehow much did the goalpost move? it must be on another continent by now
>>288749279Why are you ban evading?
>>288749346Idk who the fuck do you think I am, I only know there's a schizo obsessed with the KnY movie and his prediction that it would earn less than 200 mill overall
>>288749373If he was a BO analyst he would have been fired after that blunder.Imagine missing the mark by 75%
>>288749373Don't play games with me. I know you're ban evading>>288749407If I were a box office analyst, I'd point out that a -75.5% 2nd weekend drop from a $70 million opening in 3300+ theaters is exactly the kind of number analysts flag as heavily front loaded and fan driven. It's not a 'blunder' cause this movie was such a wildcard no one really had any idea over its performance until it dropped. I think now people have a good idea and it's not a four-quadrant mainstream hit. Films that successfully cross over to general audiences like Top Gun Maverick hold much better. A 75% drop is classic for event releases that exhaust their core audience opening weekend. And apparently, this movie didn't actually grow its fanbase for the past 5 years since the first movie. Ticket prices just went up and fans just paid more to see it in a fancier format
>>288749496>It's not a 'blunder' cause this movie was such a wildcard no one really had any idea over its performance until it dropped... except everyone you argued against, but let's ignore that!Saying it'd do 175 million and then it doing almost 800 IS a massive blunder jimbo.MASSIVE, JOB LOSING BLUNDER.And the way you keep hyper focusing on the american market when it's a foreign movie is hilarious, why don't you check it against other foreign movies or its performance in japan to check how mainstream it actually is?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH he is unhinged manplease do tell, who am I supposed to be? I'll play the part>no one really had any idea over its performance until it droppedyou were defending that 200 mill prediction with your life on the line >>288749496
>>288749531And by foreign I obviously meant foreign movie in a foreign language, don't come in bringing english movies.It's actually the top grossing in america in that regard, by the way, outdoing flying dragon.
>>288749531No. I'm not 'ignoring' the international performance, I'm literally using Japan admissions data (the home market) to show the pointMugen Train: 28-29 million ticketsInfinity Castle: 27-28 million ticketsNearly identical audience size despite 5 years of inflation, higher ticket prices, and premium formats. This series didn't actually grow in mainstream appeal, the existing fanbase just paid more to see itJapan loves it, the West not so much outside of the superfans. So it's a very successful fan driven event film with a brutal -75.5% 2nd weekend drop. That's not really controversial analysis, it's exactly how box office analysts describe front loaded releases that don't expand much beyond the core base>>288749554Big difference: Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon opened in 16 theaters then its screenings increased via word of mouth and it had legendary legs. It actually crossed over with general audiences and became a mainstream phenomenonInfinity Castle opened in 3300+ theaters and it crashed hard after just one weekend. It had objevtively abysmal legs and never expanded beyond its fanbase, so it never became a phenomenon
>>288749549The evolving copes are always so funny to read. This stupid ass movie haunts him, and its only the first of 3. I thought he didnt have to talk about BO anymore.
>>288749703The final movie _(highest grossing one) will destroy him.
>>288749625where in this analysis is brought up the fact it shattered every gross revenue prediction you made, and outperformed the several other movies you've compared it to?
>>288749703I'll never understand why not take the L.Kimetsu is wildly popular, its movies are full on events and it stands against big hollywood blockbusters, genuinely the most popular anime will ever be in this regard.
>>288749766Because it destroyed MHA, simple as.
>>288740924Is it a coincidence my cuck academia is the most liked in the west? (Filled with casuals)
>>288749831>most liked in the westObjectively, it isn't.JJK mogs it online, super hardKimetsu mogs it in sales, super hard
>>288749703No? I'm only talking about box office because the superfans talked about it and they confuse commercial success with global impactHaving said that, I personally don't care much about the box office itself. It's not like this series blew up the way studio executives expected it would and the fanbase didn't really grow>>288749707I highly doubt that they'd do better than what the first movie didn't already do. I think this one finally gave people an idea on how much it can really earn and it hit wall. Considering the admissions data, the fanbase didn't really grow over the years, they just paid more money to see the thing they want to see. It will still print money thanks to the dedicated base and premium pricing but breaking out significantly beyond current levels is tough without broader appeal. Even in places like China, it was front loaded and relied heavily on the dedicated otaku crowd plus younger viewers but it struggled to match the legs of Makoto Shinkai. It also lost screenings to Zootopia 2 which appeals more to the ChineseAt the end of the day, you need a four quadrant audience to make a massive leap: casuals, date night crowds, families, under-25, over-25, male and female. This one only had one specific audience. In the US, its audience was 57% male, skewed heavily toward 18-34 year olds and 37% Hispanic/Latino. It lacks the balanced four quadrant appeal that true mainstream hits like Avatar, Top Gun Maverick, or even some Pixar films achieve
>>288749808Which is retarded. MHA is still extremely popular and successful but apparently no other series is allowed to be. It's consolewar fagging but even stupider because its easier to watch both series than have multiple consoles.
>>288749904>>Having said that, I personally don't care much about the box office itself.Now this is funny> It's not like this series blew up the way studio executives expected it would and the fanbase didn't really growYeah, I'm sure they were super disappointed it only did... 800 million?Holy shit, it's been A YEAR and you are still retarded about it being a super smash hit.
>>288749904>and the fanbase didn't really grow> Considering the admissions data, the fanbase didn't really grow over the years,RETARDOfficial data on MT>41.35 million admissionshttps://animeanime.global/2021/05/25/61507.htmlPer aniplexOfficial data on infinity fortress >98.52 millionhttps://times.abema.tv/en/articles/-/10238194?page=1&utm_source=chatgpt.comPer aniplexIt DOUBLED its number of admissions.Are you genuinely retarded?
Anyone got the "I don't need to talk about the BO" and passport thread? I wanna reread the greatest humiliation ritual in /a/.
>>288749904Hang it up already dude. There's no coming back from that mental asylum episode from last year. You're no "analyst", you're an escaped lab accident and at this point Im more intrigued by how the next movies will warp a human's psychology and what kind of hallucinations you'll report next. You may not even be human by the end of this and I find that very intriguing. The sad thing is you dont even realize you are a science experiment. Your behavior has definitely caught my interest at least. I look forward to studying you more.
>>288749994Jeremy? Lying? No fucking way man.
>>288749951Why do you type LIKE THIS as if you're on a /dbs/ thread? Regardless, this movie ran for 9 months so I assume the marginal dollars in later months went disproportionately to theaters in order to chase a milestone. So the the studio's biggest share comes from the opening weeks which is often 70-90% after the theater's house nut and their percentage declines significantly the longer the film stays in theaters. By weeks 4-8+, it's often closer to 50/50 or even tilts more toward the theater>>288749994The only who is retarded is the one who can't actually understand the data he posts (then again, I'm talking to a shitposter in a BnHA seethe thread so oh well)Mugen Train's 41.35 million is its worldwide admissions. Infinity Castle's 98.52 million is also its worldwide admissions. I'm talking specifically about Japan and in Japan MT's admission data was 28-29 million while IC's was 27-28 million, very close to MT despite much higher prices and hypeThe worldwide jump is largely explained by IC having a wider international release (especially US opening in 3300+ theaters compared to MT's more limited rollout), higher ticket prices globally, more premium formats (IMAX, 4DX, ScreenX, etc) and overall growth in anime’s international popularity since 2020Whichbis exactly what I've been saying: excellent monetization of the dedicated base + wider international rollout makes for bigger gross but not a massive expansion of the actual audience in the core market
>>288750041I only have the passport saga
>>288750118Thanks anon I needed the laugh.
>>288750086Posting non-anime images is against the rules.
>>288750116>I'm talking specifically about Japan and in Japan MT's admission datano?>. Considering the admissions data, the fanbase didn't really grow over the years, they just paid more money to see the thing they want to see. It will still print money thanks to the dedicated base and premium pricing but breaking out significantly beyond current levels is tough without broader appeal. Even in places like China, it was front loaded and relied heavily on the dedicated otaku crowd plus younger viewers but it struggled to match the legs of Makoto Shinkai. It also lost screenings to Zootopia 2 which appeals more to the ChineseAll mentions of the international market so stop moving the goalposts.All data points to a perfectly amazing audience growth of double the admissions in the same time period.And the loss in japan is minimal in comparison thanks to, again, this amazing, exponential growth in international audiences.Sorry, you lost here, it went well above expectations to everyone involved.Including you, seething here a year later.
>>288740974He's the Keanu Reeves of shonen protagonists, blander than dirt but somehow everyone loves him.
>>288750118>I may have made a miscalculation about Demon SlayerUnderstatement of the goddamn year
>>288750118My favourite humiliatio britual of the decade.
>>288750118The fact that is was the same thread as Kira anon raping him.
>>288750171He had been seething about the movie for two months straight by then.It outdoing the previous one in one weekend+raping DB in mexico fucked him up hard.
>>288750116>which is often 70-90% after the theater's house nut and their percentage declines significantly the longer the film stays in theatersIsn't it amazing then? The studio got by far the most amount of money, both in japan and internationally as it was super mega frontloaded and beat MT everwhere even in japan.
>>288750180I've never laughed so hard at an /a/ thread. It really should be anything anyone needs to point at to completely shut down this retards "arguments". He can't get more humiliated than that. He had what, 30+ posts deleted?
>>288750193Some retards have gotten 150 in this past year, jimbo isn't what he used to be.
>>288750139No goalposts were moved though, I've been consistent from the start, you just can't keep up which isn't my fault. The core fanbase in Japan (the franchise's heart) showed almost no growth in raw audience sizeMugen Train Japan: 28-29 million admissions Infinity Castle Japan: 27.46 million admissions (official final figure)Nearly identical despite 5 years of inflation, much higher ticket prices, premium formats everywhere, and massive hype. Fans paid more, they didn't bring in significantly more peopleWorldwide admissions jumped a lot but that growth comes mostly from a much wider international rollout (especially the US opening in 3300+ theaters), hugher global ticket prices/premium formats and just a eneral growth in anime popularity abroad since 2020And that's exactly what I've said the whole time: excellent monetization of the dedicated existing base and a better international distribution makes bigger gross. Not explosive new mainstream growth in the core market. Japan admissions staying basically flat and that brutal -75.5% US second-weekend drop and heavy demographic skew (male, 18-34) still show it's a highly successful fan driven event series, just not a broad four quadrant breakout. It overperformed expectations financially, which is good for Aniplex, but the nature of the success matches what I described. I'm reading the actual data instead of cherry-picking worldwide totals
>>288750198Stop talking to yourself and stay on topic
>>288750199I'm done, you just copypasted your old post like the chatgpt bot you are>The core fanbase in Japan (the franchise's heart) showed almost no growth in raw audience sizenowhere did you talk about japan until the actual tickets globally were posted like the slimy asshole you are.
>>288742423At least Denji being a permavirgin faggot was the point. However painful it was.Hori really wants us to think Decuck is inspirational.
>>288750202Well, your passport adventures are on topic here, to show how retarded you are.
>>288750202Someone is mad.
>>288744210Deku spreading his genes and giving children his traits is a net negative for humanity.
>>288750212I'm not the one having a meltdown and throwing insults thoughI've brought up Japan admissions multiple times because it's the core market and best indicator of actual fanbase growth in the home country>>288731738>Look at the admissions data (which is publicly available for Japanese films) rather than just gross revenue.>>288741095>Actually, MT and IC had nearly identical ticket volume despite 5 years of inflation, higher average ticket prices, and a much stronger pre-release hype. MT made 40.75 billion yen with 28-29 million admissions. IC made 40.2 billion yen with 27.46 million admissionsYou're the one who suddenly posted the worldwide numbers and acted like it disproved everything. I'm only repeating myself because it feels like my point is flying past youMugen Train Japan: 28-29 million admissions Infinity Castle Japan: 27.46 million admissions (official)Virtually flat in the most important market despite 5 years of price increases, premium formats, and huge hype. The existing fans just paid more and worldwide totals grew a lot thanks to wider international releases and anime's global rise which I've already acknowledged multiple times. That doesn't magically turn a -75.5% US drop and flat Japan admissions into massive mainstream expansionYou can call it coping or whatever makes you feel better, I don't really care. The data is the data
>>288742423>buckbroken manga?Denji didn't get the gay segs either...
>>288740924>naruto>not a bitchWhat?
>>288740924Naruto didn't get The girl. He got with a better girl after he accepted that The girl just didn't feel that way about him.
Everyone except decuck lost his virginity before turning 18 there.
>>288744519Wow you're a retard
>>288742553The Big 3 is a hoax, and people often shit on Bleach for being the obvious third wheel in this headcanonical meme grouping, this popular collective mental construct that being 3rd in shounen manga sales puts Bleach into an ontological trifecta with two quasi-religious cultural behemoths it barely compares to, which leads to people actively underrating it for all that it's worth because they can't stop comparing it to One Piece and Naruto and insist it be Swordsman Narupiece. Bleach would be better received if people could just let it be itself, and judge it for what it is and not for what they think it should be.
>>288750860Bleach shot itself on the foot by continuing after aizen. TYBW is one of the worst final arcs in shonen.
>>288750870That's at least a legitimate take.
>>288750870>shot itself on the foot by continuing afterIt happens.
>>288745265>>288745265Really miss early bleach style.Orihime’s design especially.She was really hot when she was lithe but still somewhat curvy.Her personality was cool too like a cute spunky retard.wtf happened?
>>288750870I disagree.Soul society arc was kino and everything after it was significantly worse.BUT tybw is probably the 2nd best arc of the entire series.
>>288751401So why couldn't we just go straight from soul society to tybw?
