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"Paradise"
The new manga from Ryo Minenami, author of Boy's Abyss.
Last chapter we finished up Leafbro / Taiki's backstory: the betrayal he felt at the hands of his wife, which led him to seclude himself on Miko's mountain. Miko listened intently and presumably took a few lessons from that story. What will he do with those lessons, we shall see...
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Mikoma began to stand up against Momiji and she utterly hates it.
And seems Mayu became the hotter and nicer Yuri's spiritual descendant. Some lines already raised several red flags about her.
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>>288771636
>>288771665
>>288771691
How is he acting scary?
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>>288771477
That's not a strategy you should have with the place you are living in, but it's your funeral.
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>>288771512
>>288771536
Hey, it's the panels from Ryu's twitter.
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>>288771691
Roka... don't go along with whatever she wants.
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>>288771771
this slut...
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>>288771771
>All these guys are so old...
Really hoping Ryou does not recycle Yuri like some are speculating. Seems like a deliberate choice of words.
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>>288771721
By standing up against Momiji. Him rebelling against hierarchies makes her disgusted about him.
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End chapter. Viz says the next one is in 2 weeks?

Anyway, what do you think Momiji's motivations are here? The basketball thing is pretty roundabout, if she just wants to get all of them together for a hangout...
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>>288771771
What a beautiful hog.
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>>288771797
Roka and Momiji's panels happen under a rain, and both have le abyss'd eyes
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>>288771691
They're fucking with him?
Trust no bish
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>>288771809
You know, maybe Roka is actually the bad guy and he is manipulating Momiji
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Lastly, here is a cat update from Ryo.
>"Shedding season!!! Humiditiy!!!"
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>>288771864
Sad for you...
>>288771877
She will defo recycle Yuri, but given Mayu's hotter and has a bigger rack, gooners will overlook it.
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>>288771864
>Seems like a deliberate choice of words
Its too on the nose lol
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>>288771929
I love this little dude.
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>>288771877
>Someone needs to stop you
She is going to be the new sensei kek
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Damn
Miko can't even angst by himself without all the women in his life getting in his business. They don't even like him all that much to start with
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I missed the thread for last weeks chapter, it was really good
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>>288771665
>>288771691
my brain is fried atm
what did they mean by this?
why did they lie about the basketball friends?
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>>288771919
Nevermind, I didn't notice the change of pov in the chat
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>>288771636
Extremely cute Momoji. This chapter was worth it.
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Wait what
>Momiji said that they could go to the mountain because Roka was busy with his basketball friends
>A few chapters ago, Momiji told Miko they would go alone and for him to not tell Roka
>But it turns out that this was a lie and Roka was coming anyway. They were lying about the basketball deal
What the fuck is the goal here?
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>>288772101
Momiji wanted to goad Miko into letting her visit his mountain by saying that it would just be the two of them (nudge nudge wink wink), because Roka was busy with his basketball friends. But then her plan was for Roka to show up anyway, saying that his basketball meet got cancelled.
Not sure why she took this route rather than asking upfront if her and Roka can both come to the mountain with him. Maybe she thought Miko would say no? Or maybe she wanted to tease him with the idea of secluded mountain sex?
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>>288772101
I have the feeling that Momiji is a retard and she actually wants to make Mikoma jealous. She likes him, but she wants that Mikoma mans up and asked her out, she is the ultimate woman
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>>288771877
shes gonna molest that boy.
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>>288772379
>She likes him, but she wants that Mikoma mans up and asked her out, she is the ultimate woman
Kek. He tried it, and she got creeped by him.
Momiji just want Mikoma to be her eternal beta simpcelcvck orbiter.
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>>288771636
Her smile and manipulation, destroyed
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>>288772379
I've also seen some theorize Momiji wants to kill him, using Roka as a witness. I think between the two, I'm leaning towards your's, but it's very funny how different they are, but neither can be outright denied.
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>>288772101
I am wracking my brain attempting to process it as well. Like >>288771877 said, this is far too convoluted for a mere three-way hangout, which does not seem particularly uncommon for them. My current questions are:

>1. Why was it necessary for Momiji to lie to Mikoma about "their secret" meeting on the mountain?
>2. Why is Roka complicit in Momiji's game, cancelling his plans if Mikoma decided to go?

It's not adding up. None of the conclusions I am drawing make any sense with the current information. I need to think on it a bit more.
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>>288771798
What's up with this panel? Did she return from the big city to her hometown with her tail between her legs, or what?
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>>288771636
The virgin Momiji vs the chad Mikoma
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>>288772611
Gotta wait 'till lunch to make a quick overview.
But thw thing that bugs me is Mayu basically being Yuri v2 but hotter.
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>>288772379
>I have the feeling that Momiji is a retard and she actually wants to make Mikoma jealous
This was actually one of my >>288772611 conclusions that "didn't make any sense." My first thought. But it was seemingly refuted by Momiji's reaction to Roka happily fucking off and opting to stick with his basketball bros. She wants Roka's presence, which is why "you have to walk me home" to string him along, probably using "scary" Mikoma as a reason she needs to be walked.

Next chapter should solve a few things, I hope.
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>>288772670
More like her already showing she may be... getting obsessed with young and fresh meat, AKA Mikoma.
Picrel is gonna repeat. History's gonna repeat. Too bad Taiki's an over 30yo dude, if he was a 20yo Tokyo runaway woman, she may have been the escape door Mikoma would've happily taken.
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>>288771771
No one would like a dried up old hag fatty like you though
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>>288771636
The face of getting cucked
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''i hate women'' mangaka
i tired of this misogynistic manga
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>>288771636
Maybe... just maybe... she's actually a good girl and is just misunderstood? Mikoma is acting kinda cold and rude here.
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>>288771604
>>288771636
>>288771665
>>288771691
This is setting up for momiji to be a normal ass chick. Miko is going full mysoginist after hearing taiki's story
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>>288772101
Bitch gets off from Miko's cuck face
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Miko/Mayu is definitely a fakeout, right? While I think it would be fun, I have to imagine the author knows the readers are almost expecting it, and so won't do it.
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>>288772342
She wants Miko to man up and rape her
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>>288772880
Maybe...just maybe...you are retarded and can't deeper than surface level? She is *literally* setting up Miko as a bad guy who is "scary weird" because he told her to fuck off. Justifiably so.

Gas all simps.
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>>288771691
>>288771720
Oh, I think I see. Momiji is still frustrated by Roka not giving a shit about her. So she's saying and doing all sorts of stuff to spend time with him and get his attention. dumb simp brain like Mikoma, basically.
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>>288771665
>>288771691
>>288771720
I'm calling it, Momiji asked Roka to tell Miko he was confessing to her to make him jealous, she's obsessed over him
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>>288771604
>>288771636
This is a man salvaging what little self-respect he had.
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>>288773057
It would really be funny if she was just complely normal and trying some overly convoluted strategy to win over her childhood friend. But he met mountain man and now thinks she's just like mountain man's wife.
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>>288773057
That would be so fucking so funny
>Miko you don't understand, I had sex with Roka to see if you cared!
>Miko it's your fault I got pregnant by your best friend, you should have noticed my feelings for you!
>Why didn't you catch on???
Meanwhile Roka is on the verge of roping
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>>288773016
I considered that as well. But the methodology is still too convoluted. If this was her endgame, why not just say she wants the three of them to go up to the mountain together like last time?

This:
>"Hiihii, Roka will be mad if we go to the mountain. It'll be our little secret XD"
>"By the way Roka, I'm going with Miko to the mountain. Cancel your plans and suddenly show up XD."

Makes no sense. What the fuck? This is retarded, no matter how I map it out. Yet that seems to be exactly what's happening. It only makes sense if her intent is to manipulate Mikoma's feelings.
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>>288773123
>>Miko it's your fault I got pregnant by your best friend, you should have noticed my feelings for you!
Sounds like an evil woman to me
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>>288772822
Author is a woman.
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>>288771721
she's lying bro
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>>288773219
No one hates women as much as women
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>>288771721
He's not simping
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>>288772964
Author will either go for Mikoma/Momiji or Mikoma/Makita. Mayu's clearly a fakeout, unless in her "discriminated women" bingo she now goes compassionate for an arasaa. She already showed sympathy towards 2 bokukkos and a damaged goods/outsider so it's probably time for the arasaa (who, unlike Yuri, it's clear dhe ain't a virgin) or the special needs tomboy... again
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>>288771422
>>288771449
>>288771477
>Series is actually about a comfy cabin building in the mountains with a little bit of tragedy.
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>>288773057
>this page was Roka obeying Momiji's orders
>they were already going out
lol if true.
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>>288771536
>>288771512
Why do I feel like the cat is going to be found butchered? Am I just being paranoid?
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>>288771877
s-sensei...
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>>288771636
>EVIL SPIRIT VANQUISHED.
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>>288772342
I think she just literally wants mikoma's attention. She is the "queen" after all, so everyone should be at her service at all times and having Miko be more interested in the mountain instead of her makes her scared / jeoulous. I think the plan was simply to have Miko agree with momijis 'date' on the mountain only to have Roka show up later and that way give her an excuse to cancell their plan. This way she keeps Miko's interest in her by giving him the illusion that she might have an thing for him without actually having to hang out with him. Basically she just wants him to simp for her but he is too mountainpilled to care.
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>>288771877
>The buyer hasn't come around yet.
What if leaf guy isn't really the buyer?
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>>288771536
>>288771558
>>288771558
>>288771877
For the love of God Miko, get some better parents
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>>288772379
Far from it, I think she wants to hurt him. There's something that happened when they were young that made her hate him.
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>>288773393
What we though it was Mikoma's fatalest flaw ended up being his redeeming quality: his entitlement towards materiañ things. Too bad it's tainted by his seek of validation
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>>288772880
>Mikoma is acting kinda cold and rude here
Cold, but not rude
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>>288773409
He already has a new dad. >>288771494
New mommy on the way >>288771771
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>>288771691
Women are evil
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>>288773187
It's Momiji cope--she forces Roka to cancel his own plans, and that's her "proof" that Roka cares about her. Momiji used Miko as part of it because he's an easy simp.
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>>288772611
She wanted to punk him, make a mean joke out of him. He simps out hoping for a date in the mountain, bf shows up because the boys "canceled" (lie), she says something like "aww you hoped it was just the two of us? lololol", they laugh at him. I'm sure this setup might sound familiar.
He ruined her plans by just saying no
roka just says yes to whatever she asks him because he cant be bothered
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>>288773409
Mayu can be his mommy
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>>288773499
Wait, reading it again, I'm going with the first vibe that Roka never had plans to meet with basketball buddies and that was a lie all along. Could still be a weird Momiji cope by forcing Roka to tell lies and do what she wants but now I dunno.
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>Everybody hates Mikoma
Jesus, Taiki needs to kidnap this kid and drop him off in Tokyo. He'd have a better life.
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>>288773499
Roka had no plans that day,the whole thing was a lie
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>>288772342
A woman like her can’t handle being physically and mentally psuedo-rejected by some mountain boy with no girlfriend. It hurts her ego.
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>>288773552
>Mayu can be his sugar mommy
Fixed
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>>288771449
>Used to watch videos about cabin building
He and Miko will start a channel about building heir mountain mancave, it'll go viral and Momiji will seethe about it
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>>288773642
Mountain Bros Channel fell off when they started hiding using heavy equipment. You could see the tracks and bucket marks in their holes.
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>>288773113
>>288773057
Miko is 100% going to be in the wrong by the end of this. He's already shown he has dark as fuck thoughts due to emotional neglect from his family
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>>288771636
Yare yare daze
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>>288773123
>Roka was gay for Miko the whole time
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>>288773702
>i am tired of being played for a fool and being led around by an arrogant selfish girl
>YOU FUCKING TWISTED PSYCHO STOP KILLRAPING WOMEN
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>>288771477
>>288771494
nice to see them having a good time on the mountain. while it lasts anyway.
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>>288773730
He's developed an unhealthy obsession over her just like with his mountain because he feels entitled to both. He's right to feel slighted but the response he has to both is not good
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>>288773730
Inb4 Mikoma will realize... too late when he already stained his hands with fresh Momiji blood that she liked him, but he was too much of a prideful psycho to ever act like a modern man and just ask her out, but that will contradict with Momiji being grossed out by his chivalrious white knoght outbursts from the very 1st chapters.
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>>288771877
If she ends up being Yuri 2.0 I wonder if we’ll see another senseischizo
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>>288771636
>>288771665
>Goes full mysoginist
>Turns out she really wanted to spend time with him
He played himself.
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>>288773408
I think the parents are just that tuned out.
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>>288773999
she wanted to cuck him, ourboy, mikotate is right
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Remember guys:
>What people perceives as an ideal, it's actually a curse.
>What people thinks it's hatred, it's actually salvation.
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>>288774026
>mikotate
Mikolliot Sasanodger the supreme simpcelcvck gentleman.
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Wait

Is Taiki really the buyer?

Can we actually believe anything he’s said so far without evidence?
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Alright anon, place your bets:

>1. Momiji has the hots for Mikoma and is playing illogical foid mind games while playing the long game "dating" Roka (who's in on it) to elicit a response.

>2. Momiji sees Mikoma as a beta orbiter she has no strong feelings toward, but sees him as an opportunity to try to make Roka care about her.

>3. She does not give a shit about either Miko or Roka so long as they're both under her finger and validating her existence as The Queen™.
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>>288774076
True, what if Taiki is actually misogny ghost, a culmination of all the misogynistic feelings of the Town's residents given form so that Miko may finally ascend as The Supreme Gentleman and take rightful vengeance upon Momiji for not offering herself once she saw his mountain.
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>>288774090
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>>288774090
Case one but it isn't intentional. She gets everything she wants easily so she wants the one person who rejects her. This will grow into an obsession. At the same time she doesn't want to be seen as the pursuing party, even is she is pursuing him, since it'd hurt her image and her self-conceptualization, hence the mind games: Miko has to pursue her.
Her own self worth is probably tied into this somehow, she probably likes being desired.
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>>288774090
3
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>>288774090
I'll go with 1. though I think she hates him at the same time and wants to hurt him, the manga's marketed as a love & hate story after all.
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What do you think she was thinking when MIKOCHAD rejected her?
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>>288774090
Momiji hates Miko and has told Roka about some made up shit that Miko has done to her so now Roka has believed her so they are in on an elaborate ploy to ruin Miko's life. I'm gonna assume in the future, either Momiji or Roka is going to kill the cat and frame it on leafguy. Miko starts becoming paranoid and it spirals from there.
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>>288774090
I think it's 3 but through his rejection it becomes 1
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man, roka looks gay as fuck
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Until now I felt bad for Roka. Now that I see he's willing to play along with this cunt's games to torment his """""friend""""" he can trip and fall down the mountain along with his cunt of a girl.
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I don't get people saying she's into him
he invited her to the mountain and said he'd protect her
and basically told him to fuck off
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>>288771588
Surely this means nothing
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>>288774245
Momiji.exe stopped working
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Thot Patrol:
Status: Patrolled
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>>288774403
inb4 all 3 of them have family issues that make them weirdos but we've only seen Miko's.
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>>288774334
>but through his rejection ft. some flashback that explains why Momiji behaved like a passo-aggro,spiteful bitch towards Mikoma it becomes 1.
Ftfy.
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>>288774386
She'sd into him being into her, she's not in love with him, just obsessed with him
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>>288774090
1 just for the irony that even the readers think she hates Mikoma, when in reality she has the hots for him
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>>288774564
>Miko is her mountain
kino
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Having female thinking about you is extremely unrealistic nowadays
they don't notice mountainboys at all
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>>288771877
She's dead, and Leaf-man will feed her meat to Miko.
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>>288774586
Typical female behavior to flipflop the moment things don’t go your way. She wasn’t even serious about the mountain trip and thought it was gross until her “feelings” were hurt.
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the mom SEEMS to care, but is also just a bad parent
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>>288774090
4. she's a woman so her behavior is completely nonsensical and based on vibes
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>>288771877
>>288771798
>>288771771
>SEX WITH THIS HAD AT THE MOUNTAINS SOON.
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>>288774374
Yeah, Roka is pretty pathetic. I wonder what his mone life is like? He seems to not have a very strong sense of self and just goes along with what everyone around him says, he doesn't even seem interested in Momiji, them being a couple is just something that she and everyone else decided for him.
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>>288774637
She's pretty self-absorbed but doesn't seem neglectful like the dad. God forbid you want anything that isn't 100% in-line with her tastes though.
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>>288774711
Roka and Chiho are pretty much parallels, both of them are just willing to accept other people's wills if they're persistent enough, however Roka folded instantly to Momiji while Chiho resisted and told off Taiki quite a lot.

Rather than being malicious, he's just pathetic.
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>>288774090
>3. She does not give a shit about either Miko or Roka so long as they're both under her finger and validating her existence as The Queen™.
It's classic country foid bullshit. She's a narcissist that wants to be the center of the world, so she's playing whacky mindgames with the boys around her. She's no doubt going to deliberately stir shit now.
Luckily Miko and Roka are both way more based than she realizes. They're willing to communicate openly with each other for the most part, so they're already decently immunized to standard antics.
This is the Boy's Abyss author though, and there's definitely some dark vibes going on. I honestly think Miko is the dangerous one here. My bet is that he's going to be exposed to a bunch of dumb bullshit and he's going to snap and start stacking bodies in the woods.
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>>288774761
momiji will wet herself from seeing dangerous mountain man and cum. femoids are obsessed with criminals and especially serial killers
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>>288774386
I mean yes she's clearly trying to hurt him. But she wouldn't come to hate him to that extent if she hadn't had strong feelings toward him in the first place no ?
The reason Miko hates her now is because he liked her and she didn't give him what he wanted. She might be driven by similar emotions.
The fact that she puts so much effort just to hurt him makes no sense if he was just some random simp in her eyes.
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this manga will radicalize boys across all japan
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>>288774982
her work isn't that popular in japan
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>>288774917
that's like saying bullies need to have strong feelings beforehand
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>>288775028
Because if men talk about it they're labelled misogynists. Remember, she's a victim!
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>>288774982
Seems it's radicslizing westoids tho.
>>288775028
Nip population seems to have developed a phobia to too close to home dramss and thrillers they now choose to escape into feelgood unrealistic romcoms.
There's a reason kanokari lost almost all its S1 boost and is now on vol. 1 levels of sales/vol. It became a too close to home series.

Gladly Ryou is more niche because of that and the only reason abyss became more popular than her previous works is that Yuri was basically an escapistic character, the rival heroine who opposses the more realistic main one. It doesn't surprise me Abyss began to lose steam when Sensei showed the nasty realistic part of being that stereotype.
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>>288774917
She's a narcissist in a small town.
Fucking with the emotions of the local boys makes herself feel powerful, attractive, and important.
She doesn't need a reason beyond that. It's like what this guy is saying >>288775077, they don't need a reason. They're just filling an emotional need, and the people they hurt may as well be props.
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>>288774090
Option 1 seems to be the most prevalent response, with Option 3 not too far behind. Option 2 is not even considered, but two alternatives are.

Personally, I have been sort of expecting some variation of option 1 for a while, and parts of this chapter may reinforce it. But if Momiji is to parallel Chiho 1:1, option 3 makes the most sense. But with the themes of the story and Ryou's record, perhaps the answer is blended somewhere between 1 and 3. She likes and hates him simultaneously, making their feelings die one another mirror.
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>>288775290
>Seems it's radicslizing westoids tho.
Ironic weeaboos still think "meek and submissive japanese pussy" is real and aren't ready for the reality of The Asian Woman. Between korean, chinese and japanese, it's hard to crown an all-time worst female.
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I fucking KNEW Mikoma would fuck the girl who runs the inn hahahahaha
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>>288775432
Roka is Chiho parallel. They even look alike >>288775272
>>288771746
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>>288775467
He's going to go up the the cabin site to find her riding leaf-man.
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>>288775467
Not yet...
She only sowed the seed of obsession with fresh blood within her.

Tbf she should've chased Roka instead as he seems to be the resident bishounen. Why Mikoma?
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>>288775600
KINO NTR
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>>288771588
Is it me or it seems she was building courage to talk to Miko?
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>>288775654
It takes effort to not let too much disdain show on her face.
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>>288775571
I see the similarity you're pointing out. But thematically, the entire point of Miko's conversation with Taiki was to draw the parallel between Chiho and Momiji so that Mikoma >>288771604>>288771636
learns to recognize and adapt to his situation without becoming Taiki 2.0.
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>>288775654
she obviously has some feelings for him
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>>288775467
She wants some of Miko's collagen
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>>288774090
Something might have happened between Momiji and Mikoma during their childhood that made her seethe immensely but that he doesn't remember at all, similar to how Taiki's ex resented him for not noticing her fear of heights.
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>>288232574

Holy SCHOLAR....
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>>288771771
mountainhag!
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>>288775709
The post was deleted. What did it say?
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>>288771771
do hags really use dating apps?
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>>288771411
>paradise
Paradise is just having a mountain where women can't reach you with their bullshit.
Reminder that it was Eve who led to Adam getting booted out of Paradise.
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>>288775775
Women are the only people who use dating apps because they can book dick appointments at will. If you're not a 10/10 chad you're only humiliating yourself by singing up.
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>>288771877
Inb4 she hooks up with Leafman.
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>>288775323
There's obviously more to it in her case. This mangaka rarely draws straight up evil characters, even Yuko's motives and actions were understandable.
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>>288775775
Yes, and they are very thirsty, more than men
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>>288775807
Leafman belongs to the age group she got disillusioned with.
She's aiming for colagen.
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>>288775798
>>288775842
i mean Mountain hag! who would use in fucking village where everyone knows each-other
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>>288775831
Yea, someone like this draws cartoonishly evil that's just comedic. Someone like Ryou draws twisted mundane evil that's understandable and the kind you have to fear of encountering.
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>>288774090
I think Momiji is spoiled by her looks and genuinely bored from living in bumfuck nowhere so she annoys mc and dates the hottest guy around because she has nothing better to do.
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>>288775702
That's more or less my stance, but your spin on "not noticing" adds an extra layer I would not mind seeing integrated into the story proper.
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>>288775772
An old post about Miko and Mayu potentially fucking. He sees this chapter as set up for that.
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>>288775831
No offense, but you sound pretty sheltered. There are people out there who would make your blood curdle. Not only are there some nasty fucks out there, they're normally also quite stupid.
Expecting people to need reasons for what they do is absurd.
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>>288775867
It was implied he had good looks before he disfigured himself and he's some kinda celebrity.
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>>288775872
>i mean Mountain hag! who would use in fucking village where everyone knows each-other
She says guys in the town are all old and had the pulse to go back to tonyo, but them shrugged said intention off in a sus way >>288771798
Mikoma's motormouthed sister spilling the beans shows the reason why Mayu wants to stay in the town. She clearly wants young and fresh cock.
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>>288775772
Something about Mayu and Mikoma
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>>288775932
Neither of you are incorrect. But this is a story, coupled with a message. So it's extremely unlikely that binary of black and white is Ryou's intention with her track record.
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>>288775960
>Mikoma's motormouthed sister
Do you mean his mom?
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>>288775932
bruh this is fiction dude
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>Miko hook up with the hag
>They get caught by momiji
>mountain hag's life gets ruined
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>>288771411
is this supposed to be the start of act 2?
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Ryou, cool it, not all 30+ hags want teenage cherryboy cock
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>>288776196
nooo leave hag alone from teen bullshit
t. local 50yo old guy looking for 20 year younger than me hag
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>>288776196
Either that or Taiki is actually a serial killer and he kills Mayu
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>>288772670
Unironically she might have started thinking about Miko right there
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>>288776226
Let's give her the benefit of the doubt. Of all my predictions, her rewriting Yuri is not on my bingo card. But I'll be fine with their dynamic being a misinterpretation on Momiji's part, leading to levels of seethe and salt that will make her go fully psychotic. Of course, poor innocent Mayu would be caught in the crossfire but that's a small price to pay.
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>>288771798
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Momiji is hiding her true power level until another contender (woman) starts orbiting around the MC. Ryou knows what she's doing, DAMN
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>>288776224
we're in the midst of act 2 right now
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>>288771771
her ass must be so fat..
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>>288776366
And her abdominal fat may be too evident too.
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>>288776336
Oh nonoonon
catfights are big nonoon
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>>288776508
Miko is an architect
built cabin and his hag
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>>288776595
>only one who cares about Miko and his mountain activities
>listens to him and appreciates him
>sexually frustrated
RUN MIKO, RUN
YOU'RE GONNA CLIMB THE ESCALATOR OF ADULTHOOD
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>>288776595
Yeah it's OVER
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>>288776695
>it's OVER
For Mayu.
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>>288776226
Ryo is just going by what the science says.
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>>288776695
early yuko was something else.
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>>288776595
Okay okay, so if I'm understanding this right, this woman is going to rape Miko and this might lead to Momiji showing her real feelings or whatever? I just need to know, is hatesex between Miko and Momiji still on the table?
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>>288776595
>>288771771
i simply don't believe miko has enough meat for this woman
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>>288776914
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>>288771771
Hmm... I will be buying some inn hag coin. She'll be the sensei of salvation in this manga. Trust the plan bros
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>>288776935
>I just need to know, is hatesex between Miko and Momiji still on the table?
I never read Hatsukoi Zombie, but given Ryou's last two works: sex is a foregone conclusion.

And the only way Miko and Momiji will have sex IS hatesex. So until further notice, it's on the table.
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>>288776968
I wonder who was here for this chapter drop. The amount of threads and replies kek
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>>288777072
Me. That thread was actually my first exposure to this manga, but I forgot about it soon after. Then sometime early/mid 2021, I picked it up when I was looking for misery porn kino. When I got to this page, a light bulb went off.

>Oh! It was THIS manga!
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women in small town and villages are not like THIS
they are pure, simple and often more happy
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>>288771877
>Someone needs to stop you.
Stop him from what, exactly? It's like everyone in the manga knows(suspects) that Mikoma is the school shooter type and want to prevent him from going off.
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>>288776833
For Momiji perhaps. If the only female figure that gives Mikoma validation dies, then his hatred at Momiji will turn feminicidal.
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>>288776961
>i simply don't believe miko has enough meat for this woman
Loser MCs only redeeming qualities are usually sex related.
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>>288777202
>dies
Wasn't going that far, anon.
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>>288777189
In my shithole, they're more like Momiji and Mayu tho.

There's a reason an anthology crime recreation series called Mea Culpa exists here and 99% of its cases happen on lil towns.
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Miko is going to give her his boar meat if you know what I mean
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>>288777191
not really
the mom said they haven't seen the buyer (or probably doesn't give a shit) but miko and the innhag already met leafbro
but innhag is suspicious of leafbro, and wants miko to stop snooping around
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>>288777191
>Stop him from what, exactly?
Stalking and recording Taiki. Which he is not doing as she lacks information. Narratively this is just an excuse for Mayu and Mikoma to talk, which will segue into something actually important.
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>>288771771
>>288771798
>>288771877
>>288776595
really love how ryo draws her eyes
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feels like roka is parallel to leafman instead of miko
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>>288771691
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>>288777364
The prerequisite for that would be him needing to give an actual fuck about Momiji.
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Would you trade a mountainbro for an innhag?
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>>288777323
It's not only that. It's how everyone wants him to stop going to the mountain, I kind of expect there being more to it than them being afraid that somethings bad is going to happen to him if he continues going.
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Let me guess

We're going to learn that the grandpa was >le evil patriarch of the family huh..
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>>288776595
>blushing
hmmm
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>>288777461
>le evil patriarch of the family huh..
no, if we're going to go by ryo's standards
it might be the grandma who's evil
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>>288777461
I called it. Grandpa diddled momiji and miko only watched. This is why momiji hates him.
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people are gonna get the wrong idea, ryo
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>>288777400
I love this panel. Second time we see her mask crack and reveal those empty, soulless eyes. Imagine being so narcissistic that when your simp stops simping, he is now "Weird. Like scary weird." lmao
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>>288776595
She will offer him to eat her super special corns to him right?
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>>288777531
>people are gonna get the wrong idea, ryo
>wrong idea
"Wrong?"
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>>288771494
>actually, you reek of piss and shit
rude miko
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>woman in her 30s is casually talking to the neighborhood mountain boy
>OMIGOD HAG WANTS TO HAVE SEX WITH HIM YEEEEEEEESSSSS
virgins all of you
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>>288771558
fuck me dude many people in the world don't deserve to be mother and father.
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>>288772994
yes, people aren't nice if you treat them coldly.
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>>288771604
>>288771636
>>288771665
>>288771691
sexo expressions...
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>>288771720
>k
KEK, he hates her
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>>288777750
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>>288774090
1 and 3 looks like strong possibilities.
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>>288777428
Yeah
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>>288771604
>>288771636
and people thought he was gonna rat out leafbro
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>>288777750
She literally complains about not being able to find young guys. The previous author's most popular character is a 29 years old teacher obsessed with the younger MC. It's pretty easy to connect the dots, anon.
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>>288777809
He leveled with her like an adult and set clear boundaries about what is and is not acceptable behavior. Her feelings are hurt because she got told "no." Not because of how "cold" he was. Now she's making shit up about him.
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>>288771422
>>288771449
I would've enjoyed a couple more chapters of nothing but the guys enjoying nature and trying to build their cabin, but shita going to hit the fan. Leaf bro is going to get dragged into this teenage nonsense, isnt he?
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>>288771665
Momiji thighs...
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I have to give it up for Ryo. She can write these mysterious and toxic interactions really well, make them interesting and fun to read now matter how mundane the interactions are.
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>>288771494
*SNIFFFFFFFFFFF*
Taiki my beloved...
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>>288778203
The Mom is terrible. Also Mayu was cute in this chapter, I wonder if she's going to approach Taiki or Miko.
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>>288771720
>>288771665
It's weird how they're never ever swapping their neck accessories back.
Some kind of subliminal messaging?
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>>288778203
Yeah. It's like she lays out landmines and then throws random stuff at them.
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There was something weird about Anon's post
Like scary weird...
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>>288777750
Have you read Boys' Abyss?
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>>288773892
I sure fucking hope so
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>>288778099
>Leaf bro is going to get dragged into this teenage nonsense, isnt he?
*sighs*
This recent page does not inspire much confidence, >>288771477
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>>288778296
>I wonder if she's going to approach Taiki or Miko.
Doubt she's aiming for Taiki. Her thing is young and fresh blood.
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>>288778319
she wears the tie = she wears the pants
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>>288778496
Ever since he told mikoma that he can have it back when hes dead, it seems like something that'll be happening sooner than later with how suicidal the guy is.
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>>288777586
>Imagine being so narcissistic that when your simp stops simping, he is now "Weird. Like scary weird." lmao
Re-reading, I no longer believe this to be the case. I initially thought she we stirring up drama due to Mikoma's rejection. But from her perspective, he may very well be acting "scary weird" -just not in the generic le school shooter vein everyone shitposts about.

This is a man who literally worships the mountain, much to her chagrin. He loves it so much he was just in the process of digging dirt on Taiki to potentially get him to fuck off and reclaim his generational property. And yet then seemingly overnight, a switch flips.

He is now referring to HIMSELF as a "trespasser" on HIS mountain and, to her knowledge, is paradoxically no longer visiting said mountain. And what's more, the empty promise of a whiff her pussy is completely ineffective in manipulating him. Something is wrong. Terribly wrong. He's being influenced by something. Or someone. A "threat."

To me, it is no longer a matter of "if", but when at this point. She is going to stalk him to uncover the reason behind the change, only to find out he IS going to the mountain after lying to her about it twice. And that he is building a relationship with "the mysterious man" and actually smiling and enjoying himself.

She will then proceed to fuck shit up.
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Mountain bro is gonna fucking die in his unanchored shitshed the first heavy rain he gets
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>>288778881
I started fearing for his safety as soon as I read the title of chapter 5: "A Good Guy." Him saying Mikoma can have the mountain when he dies in addition to his ideation of dying on it , practically sealed it for me. I'd love to be wrong, but Ryou keeps raising flag after fucking flag.
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>>288778987
Also, yes, I get it, Taiki is a dumbass who thinks you can just ignore a solid foundation and hope it'll work out. Cool it with the heavyhanded symbolism, Ryou.
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>>288778876
Momiji is scheming. The plan was to have her boyfriend pop up unannounced so that she could be glad and have fun flirting with Miko as a witness. Now that her hopes and dreams of being a shameless slut and an ntr queen are dashed yet again she is going to call Miko a crazy stalker because he ruined her plans of making everyone around her jealous and trampled all over her emotions with his virgin talk. Momiji will not forgive.
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>>288778922
That is pretty understated in this chapter. Miko's always obsessed about the mountain and have previously expressed disdain over someone else possibly owning it. It's a huge shift to Momiji that Miko changed his opinion after one talk with Taiki.
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Thanks for the dump, OP
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>>288771558
>He hasn't eaten breakfast since he started highschool

Well that's a clue on where Miku started being isolated from his family. Right before that must be where him and his family must've had a falling out of the grandpa.
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>>288779114
>Well that's a clue on where Miku started being isolated from his family.
He began to give them the cold shoulder tho.
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>>288779132
yes, it's the child's fault that the parents ignore him. tell us more
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>>288779068
it was a pretty good talk to be fair
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Man who just wants to live alone in the woods will die because he accidentally made a teenage boy based enough to stop being an orbiter for a psychotic girl that keeps playing dumb games with him.
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>>288779234
Man is gonna die in his homemade shed that he learned about from indian youtubers
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>>288779252
Bro actually fell for the "living off grid" meme and got buried alive in a pile of driftwood.
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>>288779252
>Luke here from the Outdoor Boyz youtube channel and in today's episode we're gonna go hike up a mountain
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>>288779068
>That is pretty understated in this chapter
Exactly. That's why I overlooked it and was more focused on why Momiji concocted this insidious little scheme than Mikoma's behavior. Wasn't till I got off work and had the mental clarity to think critically on it and was like "No...he IS being weird!"
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him acting weird in the moment doesn't change the fact both momiji and roka were setting him up btw.
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>>288779382
He turned her down and didnt care about the mountain at the same time. That must feel pretty out of character for her but yeah, hope they explain why she was planning the whole cancelled game with the momiji soon and why he agreed to it
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>>288773057
>Roka at the end of his wits "No Momjii, I'm not calling Miko at 3 am to tell him I fucked you to see his reaction"
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>boyfriend so indifferent to your ass that he didnt even feel like carrying you because his shoes weren't comfy enough
>his orbiter best friend so indifferent to your ass that he doesnt even hesitate to turn down your shit test
Mind broken
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>>288779471
Inb4 Makita now whacks, no, btfos Mikoma for turning Momiji's request down
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>>288779712
yuri time
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>>288779754
>20 minutes later
>"I owe Mikoma an apology"
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>>288779382
It was for his own good. He could be involving himself with a potential crazy psycho serial killer/rapist/pedophile/internet woman hater and the girl is just trying to protect him from the dangers of the mountain. They are good friends trying to protect the Miko.
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>inb4 Mikoma ends losing his v with the arasaa hag, and happens bc Mikoma shows vulnerability. Seeing Miko vulnerable, mixed with her wanting to protect him and her sexual frustration end causing the inevitable. She ends eating his lips and tonguerapes him.
>inb4 Mikoma gets creeped out, but curiosity and his growing hatred against Momiji ends making him cross the line and starts fondling his predator's tits.
>inb4 Momiji watches him sucking Mayu's tits and snaps. Not only he rejected her offer, but also is seemingly DARING to enjoy the attention of the innkeeper. All of this happens in the same rough draft chapter where Ryou hinted Roka and Momiji were up to something on a rainy day.
>No sex happens because Momiji sees them and Mikoma returns to his senses and apologizes to Mayu for crossing a line but she ended up enjoying the feeling. Now she has a pretense to stay in town.
>Mikoma's hell in school begins the next day. Momiji starts spreading ill rumors about him. Roka "advises" him to not come back to school anymore.
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Oh this was a chapter holy fuck.
New dynamics are in now there's a new layer of Momiji's and Roka's relationship and it does seem to be centered around Miko. The question becomes what. Like there does seem to be a web that Momiji has made around the whole situation like scheduling these events so she can be with Miko but have Roka around, having this storyline of "Roka is so indifferent to me boohoo" and Roka substantiating that claim calling her essentially queen bitch and him being a doormat.

Whose to say she didn't setup Roka to go away in that earlier chapter? Whose to say she didn't collude with Roka to say shit behind her back? Whose to say Roka isn't into this as much as she is?

We can't say for certain what their relationship is, is it a smokescreen to get Miko jealous to get with momiji? Is it an excuse for Miko to be with Roka cause this shits yaoi? Both of these claims are harmed by that walk me home line.
At the same time that line could be to keep things presentable to the public, since couple of the school or whatever.

The truthful matter is both of them feel something towards Miko, but it's definitely something more complex than originally thought.
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>>288771877
Thanks for the dump, OP!
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>>288779504
>"Momiji wouldn't be easier if you drop you ego and just ask him out?"
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>>288771536
>>288771536
his sister has been a cunt too
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>>288780147
>Momiji, i saw Miko doing inappropriate things with the innkeeper. Hello?? Momiji?
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>>288780181
>Momiji's grandpa "Momiji where are you going with my shotgun"
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>>288779504
>>288780147
>>288780181
>>288780258
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>>288780258
>shotgun
Knife.
It's Japan. No guns allowed for civilians.
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>>288780016
>The truthful matter is both of them feel something towards Miko, but it's definitely something more complex than originally thought.
Curious side you mostly lean on so far >>288774090 or are you speculating in another direction?
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>>288780016
From what we've seen, Roka and Momi's relationship feels kinda similar to that of Gen and Yuko with how they're working closely together behind the MC's back.
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Miko and Mayu onsen scene soon. Screencap this
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please be a healing manga please be a healing manga please be a healing manga
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>>288780514
1. Would be the closest.
2. Is ruled out since Roka is in on this
3. Is insanely unlikely as she has infinite simps so there's no reason why she needs Miko and Roka even if they're childhood friends. Miko were already under her finger, with these tricks she's pushing him away rather than keep him entrapped.

I think it has to be a long game for either Momiji and or Roka. Roka has been too much of a pushover, we rarely get any of his feelings except for his annoyance with momiji and his care for Miko. They were childhood friends, I need to reread the ealier chapters to really click how close they are than just "oh they were present", but there is clear history.

So if I were to add an extra route it'd be:
4. Roka has the hots for Miko but he's afraid of getting rejected due to Miko's obsession with being portrayed as a mans man. Momiji is helping her friend out by setting up scenarios to get Miko to hate her (since he obviously still is crushing on her) while ending up in the same "room" as Roka.
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>>288780658
HEALING? IN A RYO MANGA? HAHA BEST YOU CAN HAVE IS the tulpa waifu moving on to the afterlife
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>>288780512
Her grandpa is a hunter
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i'm thinking Mayu WILL make a move on Miko but she'll end up also trying something with Roka since she seems like a woman of a large appetite (she fat)

would be a nice subversion of what Yuri was (obsessed by Reiji only) to have the hag be a crazy hoe
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>>288780737
That one story with the male crossdresser who was raped worked out for everyone. Boy’s Abyss arguably had a good ending as well.
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>>288780547
There are clear similarities, but as others in the thread has been mentioning Roka is more of a pushover forced into doing things by apathy rather than Gen's. What's behind the apathy, because in my opinion >>288773057
the relationship wasn't where it started, it came from somewhere else.
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>>288780512
guns are allowed for stickhicks, wild animals are real
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>>288780699
I thought as much. Thanks for your thoughts. One is what I'm think hits closest to the mark as well.
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>>288780512
Even in noguns shitholes like Japan there are carveouts for people who can prove they're legitimate woodsmen.
There are bears and boars and wolves and shit. It's completely fucking absurd to tell them they're not allowed to own guns. Even in noguns countries, the restrictions are only for faggy urbanites like you.
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>>288780547
Is it me or Boy's Abyss had a lot more shading than Haunted Peak?
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>>288773123
Then, when Roka ropes himself
>Miko, Roka commited suicided and now is dead because of you, didn't he? Now you'll have to carry the sin of having killed your best friend for the rest of your life. All because you didn't want to notice my indirects.
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>>288773195
>Miko it's your fault I got pregnant by your best friend, you should have noticed my feelings for you!
Dog and Scum...
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>>288777615
Kek she'll give him the milk his mom denied him since birth.
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>>288782562
Ryou rarely repeats the shadings.
It also depends on the assistants
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>>288771636
Reject evil women
Return to mountain
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>>288771477
This guy is kinda hopeless.
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>>288783583
What's fucked up is that he did it all to himself. He could be living a normal life right now, maybe even have a new wife, if he didn't fork his face and isolate himself. Sure, his wife's betrayal and the subsequent divorce would have messed him up regardless, but he had a good job and friends. He's making a point about rebuilding in that page, but this whole mountain endeavor is just another step in self-destruction.
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>>288780699
>Roka has the hots for Miko but he's afraid of getting rejected due to Miko's obsession with being portrayed as a mans man. Momiji is helping her friend out by setting up scenarios to get Miko to hate her (since he obviously still is crushing on her) while ending up in the same "room" as Roka
Memes aside I don't think Roka is into Miko, I think Roka is depressivesexual
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Ask yourself. What did Momiji intend to bring her boyfriend in secret anyway? The answer is she’s trying to protect herself and Miko from Leaf man don’t think too hard about it.
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>>288784956
Its funnier to make theories
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>>288771604
>>288771636
Bros before hoes.
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>>288771665
>>288771691
>>288771720
Yeah, that theory from the early chapter dumps is mostly likely true.
They are pretend dating to fuck with Miko or something.
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>>288774090
1 + Roka is gay for Miko and possibly blackmailed by Momiji
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>>288787932
She definitely wants to drive a wedge between them for whatever reason. Maybe she just want to bully him because he's creepy. She is disappointed he isn't pinning after her anymore, but it's probably only because, there's no reason to bully him anymore.
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There is nothing women hate more than men just chilling out in the woods off the grid building a unabomber shed.
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Mikoma's Mom genuinely made me angry.
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>>288788503
Momiji simply hates Mikoma bc be's the outcast of the story. Simple as.

In the remote case he ends gettin involved w/ the innkeeper, he won't socially climb, but basically commit social seppuku. If one thing we got from abyss is that Reiji getting personal sex ed classes from Yuri made him become a pariah and a source of gossip from ex-classmates.
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>>288788591
Why? Ultimately she was in the right, nobody wanted to eat that even Mikoma.
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Apparently for the upcoming paris japan expo.
It'd kinda predictable what (or who)'s on the other half of the shikishi.
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>>288788764
Miko only ate it due to muh manly pride.
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>>288788941
lucky frogs
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>>288790547
Ryou must have a strong bodyguard group once she arrives to frogland, she made the mistake of blackpilling westoids
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>>288771558
It doesn't need to be said but this is a seriously dysfunctional and miserable family. We haven't seen any smiles from any of them while they're at home. The dad copes by zoning out and Miko tries to do the same, the mom and sister nag and complain, and nothing gets solved.
While the relationship between the mom and Miko is tense, he seems to occupy her mind. He's all she talks about whether to Momiji, the dad, or Mayu. She's incapable of expressing her concern for him in a way that isn't controlling, and yet he seems to be the most important person to her in the family. The sister must be feeling neglected.
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>>288790828
It’s an interesting thought, but I do think it’s worth considering that the mother only seems to be particularly invested in Miko because that’s all the author finds it worth showing us. Especially if this ends up a shorter series, there’s only so much room.
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>>288790828
Coming to think mom's being somehow too invested in Mikoma, what if the reason Mayu came back to the town and overtake the inn is because the mom was getting creeped by Miko's mountaintism, is aware of his self inflicted isolation at school and that he's giving Momiji the creeps so she asked Mayu to come and do something to stop Mikoma from spiraling because of reasons?

Having the innkeeper being too close to Mikoma's family is clearly a red flag. A set up for an arrangement.
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Jap boys should hug and kiss moms more often
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>>288791201
>hey bestie can you give him some pussy to take his mind off the creepy mountain
>say no more
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>>288791273
moms are evil.
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>>288791201
But Mayu also fed Miko's mountaintism
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>>288791950
wow ryou herself in these threads!
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>>288791964
But now wants to stop him.
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>>288792022
Seems she threw her shikishi drawing midway or had a crisis bc she still can't let abyss go.
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>>288792022
Nah, that's all women, at least all women writers.
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Incel manga.
Incel thread.
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>>288794110
If a woman does something wrong they should get on their hands and knees and apologize. Momiji may not have done anything wrong (yet) but there’s a spot reserved just for her for Miko to look down on when the woman inside her starts to act up. Whenever she’s ready.
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>>288794110
>Incelkino manga by woman
ftfy
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>>288794110
Nice bait
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>>288771877
Thank you for posting.
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>>288791273
"Mom" is on the move



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