>>288791100
so?

0G sex with a gorilla

>in space
>skirt still "held down by gravity"
WHYYYYYYY

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>want humans to make batteries
>petrify said humans
???

>>288791174
It's almost like their logic is truly... alien.

>>288791160
modern anime standards

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Be honest, /a/

Would you?

>>288791174
They succeeded, did they not?

>>288791174
They expected humans to be smart enough to thaw out much sooner, and to immediately be on board with eternal life via petrification after thawing out. Turned out humans are stupid and did neither of those things.

>>288791397
Is there an internal mechanism for depetrifying that's implied here or did they expect the host to just randomly have contingencies for shit like this?
This seems like an insanely idiotic bet to make considering that in case they're wrong they've basically completely disabled their host.

>>288791397
I'm wondering how exactly is this eternal life supposed to work. Petrification does improve health, but I wonder if getting regularly petrified for few days (assuming that's the time the other, more intelligent species require) would make you immortal.
I wouldn't call staying permanently stoned "eternal life".

>>288791496
If I understood correctly, more intelligent species have brains that use more calories, so they get out of stone much faster than humans.
They didn't expect someone like us to be so advanced technologically.

>>288791496
Their previous host species depetrified themselves with pure brainpower in a short time. It took the best minds of humanity thousands of years.

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>>288791496
They said smart organisms thaw out on their own.
>>288791506
It does involve the hosts thawing out after the petrification. Otherwise the hosts won't be around to nurture the parasites.

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The final key visual has been revealed.

>>288791587
Yeah, but I'm not sure what they mean by "eternal life". Is it "you won't die petrified, so replace batteries and go back to sleep" or "petrification heals you, so remember to take daily doses of 8h in stone".

>>288791615
>>288791610
Do you think Senku and Kohaku feel physical pain by having their hair forced into unnatural position?

>>288791636
I'm saying it only makes sense for it to be the latter. The parasites require constant maintainence because high pressure oxygen apparently disables their cognitive function. So if all the hosts petrify themselves permanently for the sake of eternal life then they won't be around to maintain the parasites any more. So the expectation has to be that the hosts use repeated petrification and thawing to achieve eternal life.

>>288791679
I didn't mean "permanently", but getting petrified for a month, doing some maintenance and then returning back to sleep might work for them as well.

>>288791712
Well, it all boils down to how much of life medusas expect species to have. More time spent "awake" with regular petrification sessions, or most of the time spent in the safety of stone with short maintenance sessions. Both would be fine to them, but only former will sustain advanced civilisation.

>>288791610
medusa gachapon

KOHAKU SEXO

>>288791100
Will we get AOE of Senku actually plapping her?

>>288791100
I dropped this midway through this season just couldn't watch it anymore.
Can someone spoil me the ending.

I deliberately entered an atmosphere full of oxygen, and now I am rusting. How could this be happening to me??

>>288792253
their diamond batteries would run out eventually so they cant just stay in space forever. they need aliens to wipe them clean and replace their batteries from time to time

>>288792047
Senku asks the Medusa what they want and they tell Senku “about tree fiddy” and around that point he realizes that the culprit behind the petrification is an eight story tall crustacean from the Pleistocene Epoch.

>>288792253
They're communists. Even if few of them die, the rest will live on.
Unfortunately they landed on semi-intelligent monkeys and their luck ran out.

So the fact that nitric acid undoes the petrification was just an accident? The actual unpetrification was supposed to happen purely automatically because of "brainpower" ? What were they going to do if the intelligent life didn't have brains or DNA? I feel like this petrification mechanic is the dumbest part of the whole story.

>>288792253
bro they're gonna thaw in like a month and fix you, it'll be chill. Trust the process!

>>288792396
I like to think about it like this: Just because they're machine lifeforms doesn't mean their logic is perfect. Someone built them, someone programmed them, we can't know for sure if it wasn't some space indian.

>>288792253
kek

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>stupid

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>>288791140
More like 0 IQ sex

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OH SHIT

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Sex with Reporter-chan

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I can't believe the final boss is AI_a neural network

>>288791174
seriously. how many chapters and THIS was the best the author could come up with? and the editor just fucking let him do it?!

>>288792710
wait till you see how they are gonna end the show lol

>>288791397
okay that makes sense for the first petrification, but why did they keep firing off new beams after it became clear how retarded humanity was? Literally insane.

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Should have brought a diplomat guy

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>loses to fucking OXYGEN
THIS is the final boss?

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Wanting to live is low IQ behavior though

>>288792746
Intel™ product, please understand

>>288792721
They are a retarded AI that is presumably working off previous information. They where trained wrong and they're at least better than the BETA, they can be trained with new data.

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>>288792721
Just a friendly hands-on lesson lol

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I'm glad they explained that one, cool tidbit

The twist isn't really that surprising. The whole petrification thing could've only be the doing of aliens.

>>288792784
It just occasionally rains green and people turn to stone. Great lesson. No how, or why. Most people are out of ear shot to get the whole "sky rock said thing, I repeat thing, oops".

>>288792831
Could have been Senku from the future.

>>288792886
Who do you think made the parasites?

>>288792721
They might be stuck and not have enough juice to hunt for a new planet, so they were desperation coping with this one.

>>288792710
Apparently author wanted to finish at the anniversary of the first chapter, or something like that, so he rushed last chapters.

>>288793168
In fact I expect that to be the resolution here. Humanity can't nuke them without fear of retaliation from the survivors, but the Medusa also can't get the continual maintenance from stupid monkeys, and it's too civilizaion-annihilating tech in the hands of humans anyway. So maybe the humans clean them up and recharge their diamond batteries once and send them to Tau Ceti or something.

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THIS is the reveal that made autistic spergs autistically sperg out since the manga?
There is literally nothing wrong with it from the writing quality perspective.
This is why internet access should require a license, like a driver's license. Some brainlets just shouldn't be allowed to open their mouths in public places.

>>288792764
Post hand

>>288793418
I remember the reaction to the ending being kinda middling. People were more mad about Ryusui smuggling himself onboard.

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>y'alls in your general vicinity

>>288793418
It was significantly rushed and also things didn't feel explained. The entire episode was more or less a power point presentation so it helped a lot in that department

>medusa float in space looking for high IQ civs
>they have done this successfully for mainteinance
>they insist on parasiting humans instead of going to the next star cluster
I feel several wrong things about this. If they kept moving, it means that either their previous hosts were unsuccessful in keeping the repair gimmick up (so they will just end up killing humanity anyway via this exhausting proccess) it means that they are essentially mortal as well, and it also means intelligent life in the universe isn't as common, as they insist in looking out for human species instead of moving to the next intelligent planet. there's essentially no redeemable way they can make them neutral/good guys

>smart enough to travel through space
>smart enough to make the beam
>not smart enough to mass produce diamonds and robots to maintain them

It would have been nice if Senku again brought up the first law of thermodynamics and he, in the same way as he did for his own statue, reasoned that the cognition of the Medusas must be fuelled by something - that thing being diamond batteries.

I like how the lifeforms overestimated our intelligence due to the moon landings. I guess it feeds into the theme that humanity is strong because we can persevere,
>>288792253
medusas can survive oxygen for 800years
It's not like they are particularly susceptible to it (aside from getting knocked unconscious).
Perhaps they didn't even think it was a concern because they didn't consider the possibility of waiting thousands of years.

>>288794356
They have no limbs. Also, diamonds involve Oxygen being present and that's their poison

>>288792396
Yeah i think the nitric acid trick was an accident
The nitric acid just triggers a chain reaction.
>brains, DNA
Regarding brains, well all they need is that the lifeforms consume energy to do cognition. Similarly for DNA, they just need a way to identify members of a civilisation.

>>288792047
Senku and co build a rocket to the moon where they meet up with Whyman.
It turns out that medusa devices are conscious beings, and that Whyman is a group of such devices on the moon.
The devices scour the universe, aiming to seduce intelligent civilisations with the promise of eternal life (petrification), so said civilisations maintain and replicate them.
However, humans were 3 orders of magnitude dumber than they expected/planned, so the humans woke up millennia later after tons of them died on the earth, and made miniscule progress. They are only starting to realise this now; their prior communications were them trying to work out why humanity was unpetrifying themselves whilst making no progress with petrification tech.

>>288792710
I think it's a pretty apt way to end it
Of course it would be a sci-fi thing.
>>288792721
Maybe they thought the humans were just thoroughly enjoying petrification.
Perhaps it takes them 10k+ years to reach the next civilisation so they were willing to be patient.

>>288794356
maybe they aren't capable of doing science:tm: themselves
after all they need the diamond batteries to last hundreds of millennia
What i'm confused by is why they don't have an intelligent host upgrade their bodies so they no longer need to rely on other species. Maybe this group have only encountered species that can replicate but not upgrade them?

Hey kids! Wanna die?

>>288794356
they will also get slowly eroded by radiation, so they need beings that can reproduce them

>>288791100
>Strong Desire starts playing.
I screamed Kino from the bottom of my heart, I won't lie bros.

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>>288792831
The underwhelming twist is that the aliens are the medusa themselves. We've already seen them on Earth, all that effort to go to the Moon just to see... more medusa? Except that they're floating in the air and for some reason finally decided to say more than three words?

HOLD THE SPOILERS I'M 3 EPISODES BEHIND!!

>>288794356
You forget that someone built them. Maybe their goal was to spread the light of knowledge (and petrification, heh), by having medusas travel through the space. Find a planet, build new medusas, half stay, half go to next planet.

>>288795764
>You forget that someone built them
I did. When was it revealed?

>>288795394
I was expecting some sort of left-behind rogue AI from NASA or some plot like that, that uses a 3D-printer factory to harvest the moon's soil and build endless medusa like that (Joel said something about the pieces when he disassembled a medusa), but ultimately I guess rogue evil AI bot in space is also a bit cliche.
Frankly I guess the final boss would always be a disappointment, but instead of a cloud of Medusa, or a green martian, I would have atleast liked an evil looking robot somebitch, that would have to be powered down after a quick battle with Gorilla and Stan.

>>288791100
what is all this space shit, I thought Dr. Stone was about a guy doing science in caveman times or something? Or did I hallucinate that?

>>288795329
That's a neat detail. I didn't notice it.

>>288796026
they did enough science to move on from caveman times

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She looks cute

>>288792746
Ippo...

>>288795930
I think an evil looking robot would be too familiar.
The medusas are future tech, so they should look as weird and inscrutable to us as modern inventions are to the cavepeople.

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>>288791174
I'm actually not that surprised what Why-Man was going to be. It's an extremely advanced synthetic organism who adapted to the vacuum of space against the possibility of a zero heat universe, with the only source of energy being zero-point energy, so these are all extremely likely to host miniature versions of the known recorded universe, using carbon, one of the most abundant elements in the universe, as a power source. It's absolute genius.

THIS is seriously a very realistically possible scenario humanity might end up in real-life in the distant future, putting a conscious mind in a highly advanced god simulator to do with the artificial universe as they see fit, powered by something as insignificant as carbon, working as a collective. It's both a prison and an ark at the same time.

You have absolutely positively literally no fucking idea at all how incredibly vast space really is, and it keeps expanding, and we can't stop it, if it ever will.

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>>288792746
>>loses to fucking OXYGEN

We're being killed by it literally right now. Takes a little bit of a hundred years or so to kill us, but still, it's killing us.

>>288791610
>quieres

They did the reveal well, I liked it.

>>288792634
>>288792679
>>288796225

Gotta say, love the fact that the colors are very... Unsaturated(?) in space, and the suits look cooler.

It weirdly reminds me of 2001 a Kubrick's Odyssey.

All in all, a good episode, the reasoning feels very alien (dumb)... But we knew that from the beginning, at least they are faithful to the manga.

>>288796225
Why can't anime always look like this?

>>288793418
What do you mean? Nobody complained about Whyman, what people complained about was the series pretty much ending in a "joke note", though it was a very Dr Stone way of end things it left a bad taste in people's mouth, but this doesn't matter anymore now that the author came back with an extra ending and is the best ending ever. Crossing fingers for movie or OVAs.

>>288797197
it did look like this, and even better, with the assassin isekai, but that one had zero interesting plot (perfectly generic by standards of when it aired).

>>288797231
Nah... That extended ending it's just jumping the shark on a rocket powered by 'dusas...

I'm honestly very mixed on both endings, the one that got me excited the most was the Rei one, I loved that little soccer ball...

But that one ain't being animated :(

why?

>>288793418
TL;DR: Japs cant make good endings, cope

So where's the crustacean from the Pleistocene Epoch?

>>288797874
And only because 2 super autistic individuals, it really is a big jump going from radio waves to a super smart civilization... The dusas are dumb.

If thawing out is tied to intelligence, then regular people might soon start to break out by the millions.
Most of them while being buried, under the sea, broken.
Senku and co might have a very tight time window to sort them out...
Another big w for niggers, they have a few more millennia to figure them out.

>>288797994
Most people around the world simply went to sleep. The only people crazy enough to stay awake for 3700 years are Senku, Taijuu, and Xeno's crew who were explicitly told to do so. Senku and Taijuu woke up 6 months apart despite vastly different intelligence, Chelsea woke up about a year after Xeno, so intelligence actually doesn't seem that significant, since all humans have approximately the same brain volume compared to any hypothetical super-intelligent alien species.

In theory there could be a handful of other insane people that are still awake, but they would also need to be lucky enough to be next to a nitric acid source.

>>288797994
>>288798051
Exactly, if I remember correctly, if they lost consciousness while petrified it was game over.

Until chemically revived.

What amazes me is that Senku, super genius boy, took 3700 years to do what the dusas wanted...

Maybe he wasn't thinking hard enough?

For the final villain, I also had the idea/theory of some disgruntled ex-NASA employee (so ties to Xeno and Byakuya) who, on a space mission, stayed behind on the moon, somehow developed medusa through 3D-printing (their ∞ design could hint to infinite energy) and then he too stones himself everytime after he attacks earth, only to wake up when his systems start detecting radio signals.

how does it feel to know humanity is the dumbest intelligent species the whymans have ever encountered? bros... I don't feel so good

>we need physical maintenance
>disable creature's hand
more like bakaman

>>288798817
It is alright because we have infinite potential

>>288797874
I never understood that, especially since they immediately fuck off after Senku tells them humanity is a lot dumber than they expected... which they should have realized on their own after a while. And why did the functioning medusas not fucking communicate on Earth?

>>288796225
Very nice lighting

senku is going to rick sanchez the series finale https://youtu.be/TEZuzA2B2oY?is=LE0MPoSxFtKTMLkW in this style because he needs his best fren back

>>288798817
This just implies that whymans only met extremely individualistic life forms, and we are the first ones they met that achieve goals as a group.
We are essentially dumbass termites with cool mud towers.

>>288798120
well yeah exactly, senku, since he is still a human, is still 100 times dumber (if you use energy cost of cognition as your metric) than what the medusas were planning for
bro is so stupid, he couldn't even realise that the brazil medusas were rusted to death

>>288799006
What I found more funny on retelling of the story in the anime is that, as a medusa, at what point do you just give up and mark your target as retarded?

Coz they kept zapping humanity for millennia!

And at the slightest provocation, I mean jesus! A cave-woman was rubbing an orb and to the dusas that shit was enough to zap us again! xD

>>288791636
If you were smart, you get a rechargable max-heal potion.
If not, you get stoned for 3000 years.

>>288799199
>Petrification will continue until the average IQ increases. -Whymen.

Lmao.

How many years does a dusa has to waste away, anyway?

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>>288792746
Martians lose to bacteria

>>288795329
Not just any machinery, it's got the boats and ships and other stuff they've built.

I want to breed Kohaku

>>288798858
3700 years is nothing for them.

>>288793418
>SNK disclaimer for the post about giving nip endings a break.
kek

>>288791397
>"your entire civilisation got wiped out? Well that's you! Be a bit smarter next time!"
>"SKILL ISSUE!"

I still don't get how Senku was able to land on the moon with a box of scraps from a cave, but for our current scientists this is some sort of dark magic not possible to achieve anymore.

>we thought you were smart
Damn, I know people that barely know how to read and count with fingers but they know how to use a phone perfectly, we are doing something wrong as a species...

>>288799966
Motivation. Just tell the Americans the Russians want to built a Deathstar on Mars. I'm sure they'll get there in 5 years

>>288800184
no one has even seen a russian in 20 years, they may as well not be real

>>288800240
They are all on Mars already. Didn't you read?!

The dipole antenna was kind of bullshit but it made sense I guess, other than that I loved everything about this.

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Imagine being the primary antagonist of a shounen and you're carried around in a special boob pocket for half the series.

>>288799601
The main medusa was able to continue functioning for hundreds of years in a "toxic' oxygen environment without a battery change. It's plausible that 3700 years in the vacuum of space isn't a long time for them. It seems like they remained active and floated around on the moon the whole time, so they are resistant to space radiation and can derive E=mc^2 energy from the diamond batteries.

>>288799601
This is why i agree with anon's theory above and senkuu is going rick sanchez on the medusas.

>>288799966
>Senku
Fiction
>Moon landing
Fiction
>our current scientists
Reality

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So I avoided spoilers for years, holy fuck that's what whyman is? This is so fucking retarded, just make him be le evil baddy, shoot the guy, or it turns out they weren't even going to shoot him but capture him, and end it there.

>>288800778
the irony that senku and taiju literally has the same color scheme of rick and morty never ceases to be funny, including taiju being as dumb as a morty.

>>288799966
because you're a gullible idiot that takes clickbait at face value

>>288799966
it's a matter of fine detail work in machining. an engineer draws up plans for parts, takes it to a machinist who says "I cant cut metal in that way with these tolerances." or "The bent tube part cant be part of this block without welding it on, no drill bit can curve that way, might be able to put threading on to screw it in." and all sorts of things that don't show up on blueprints.
It's why it's so hard to repair modern vehicles, the German engineering problem. so caught up in getting all they can out of improving things that they put all the things you'd need to replace in areas mechanics cant easily access.
no one writes these things down, nor do the engineers of the day want to spend that much time talking to machinists.

I'm still having trouble processing that their big plan to save humanity from a threat that had already demonstrated using global-level transformation tech was to spend a decade building a rocket to go to the moon and then catch him with a net gun.

>>288801141
The plan was to ascert the situation and prepare for what they could, this included a net gun.

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>by the way we also made a moon rover offscreen

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Space Brothers taught me that depth perception on the moon can be a real bitch because of the lack of atmosphere which means you might think a nearby crevasse is actually further away
Maybe Kohaku should be the one driving

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It feels like it's a bit late to say this show has jumped the shark, but still

>>288792710
It could have been so, so much worse, and as such I'm pretty satisfied with what we got.

>>288800408
We can only dream to be so lucky

>>288792710
>and the editor just fucking let him do it
Here's the thing -- the original editor (Hiroyuki Honda) bailed out about the time it became evident that Inagaki was going to force an ending at the 5-year mark regardless of quality. Roughly when the S. America chase began.
For me, the manga deteriorated pretty quickly after that. The new editor didn't control Inagaki's worst writing instincts at all.

>>288801560
That tracks. That was where the series diverged from what I liked about it. I still think Suika all alone trying to create the revival fluid and then unpetrifying Senku is the peak moment of the series but the chase leading up to it and everything after just isn't even close to the level of treasure island and before.

>>288797312
>jumping the shark
What do you mean? That Senku genuinely took humankind to a Type 1 Civilization? Because what made it so good is that they actually explained it, how and why, in a perfect way, and gave us an extra happy ending on top of that, only thing that could have possibly made it better was Senku nutting inside of Kohaku. In any case I rather wait until the last episode to talk more about the true ending.

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>>288801601
I agree that Suika's arc was very well done and really does a good job making her one of, if not the single most heroic character in the series.
But then I remember that if they had just listened to Chrome instead of smugly shutting him down then Suika wouldn't have needed to sacrifice her childhood.

Shame its only one episode left and they won't animate the 3 epilogue chapters

>>288801816
Senku bringing back civilization was established from the beginning, when he was talking to Tsukasa on that beach, I have no issue with that.

Back then the scientific method was the main drive of the show, trial and error.

What irks me by the end, and thus the shark jumped, is that the medusa becomes another tool in their belt... But one so advanced that basically lets them do magic, and I'm not talking about the healing factor.

And if we're taking that route, I don't see why Rei wasn't allowed to be in the anime, y'know?

Having a cool Ai little sister made by Byakuya would have been a great last gift... Imo.

>>288801899
Damn! So Senku could have made the revival fluid on a timer before the watchmaker was even around...

>Sorry Suika, your suffering is paramount to the plot :)

>>288800153
It's as if it was deliberate....

>>288799966
We've, and when I say we, I mean Americans, have been to the moon a gajillion times bro. What the fuck more do you want from it? More space rocks? Not to mention there is no longer prime motivator to get there (the Soviets), tax dollars redirected to fund gibs instead, and political backing/will behind it.

>>288791506
Depends if petrification fixes all damage.
If it fixes genetic damage and the length of telomeres, then it would greatly increase lifespan and regeneration while also taking away the cancer risk associated with telomeres not shrinking.

The most interesting part is that oxygen is also technically toxic for us (hence all the benefits from antioxidants). It's just that the long term effects of oxygen exposure outweigh the short term effects of not breathing

So why wait till humans get to the moon to explain it all? Once they started intercepting Senku's transmissions, they could have just piped in their request for new batteries in exchange for universal healthcare.

>>288792679
If you move you're gay

>>288793418
If you're gonna list shit like this, the standard actually is
>Invent headcanon 1
>Invent headcanon 2
.
.
.
>Invent headcanon N
You'd use "headcanon X" to refer to a random headcanon, not to a random amount of headcanons

>>288800889
>Taiju, I turned myself into asparagus! I'm Asparagus Senku!

Man, the medusas sent to Earth as a sacrifice must've been the real losers of their people.

Also wait fuck, wearing feathers in your hair while polishing a pearl is what sent the signal that humans were awake again?
What, there was never a bird building a nest in just the right way to give them a false positive on intelligent live in the past couple thousand years?
There's so many stupid things happening in this episode that it's hard to stay focused on just one.

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>>288793418
>>288792710
This is the discourse I've been waiting to see

>>288796652
>against the possibility of a zero heat universe, with the only source of energy being zero-point energy, so these are all extremely likely to host miniature versions of the known recorded universe, using carbon, one of the most abundant elements in the universe, as a power source.
>It's absolute genius.
Bro this is just sciency buzzwords nonsensically strung together. You have unironically been reading too much science fiction, with emphasis on "fiction"

>>288802104
>Back then the scientific method was the main drive of the show, trial and error.
But that's how they built the space elevator.
>that basically lets them do magic
But this is false, the use of the medusa is very limited and bound to very specific rules, and said rules were at play at the end, you might call the author a genius or that he got lucky but it wasn't anywhere off the rails of the usual formula.
>Rei
Now that was off the rails, and awesome.

>>288802441
>what these niggas doing?
>...
>oh ok now we know what these niggas doing
Is not that complicated.

>>288803121
Did you read the extra chapters? Do you remember what they were doing by the end with the medusa? That's what I mean by magic.

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I miss when Mechasenku used to inject himself into the conversation and ground everything going on with real science.
Well, when he wasn't trying to kill you.

>>288803170
You mean the "time machine"? They also explain this and how the medusa could be related to it, for the original ending is just a throw away joke but for the new ending they actually talked about how it could work, even doing something that science fiction is usually afraid of doing, actually reaching a conclusion and showing it. Again, the only thing they leave in the air is if Senku scored or not.

>>288803587
Is this the first time Stanley had to deal with retardation?

If I were on that moon I would honestly get mad as fuck. I would erupt in volcanic rage and cuss those robots out. I call them morons, retards, how dare you, ect ect.

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>>288803707

>>288795921
next episode
and common sense

>>288804331
>next episode
Is that one last?

>>288804491
>Is that one last?
Yes

>>288791174
They saw the abandoned moon landing equipment and thought humanity needed a reset.

>>288793966
Rightfully so.
Ruisui relinquishing his spot to Stanley for the greater good instead of pushing his selfish little wants and needs on everyone was a moment of monumentam character growth.

And then they undid all of it instantly

>>288804547
Can't believe it's ending in a week. I don't even like it that much, it's fun but not top 10 or even top 25 material. But it still feels like a part of me is dying, season 1 came out during the last period of my life where I remember being happy

>>288796652
This is why we should kill all these aijeets that keep saying they want to make an ai god

>>288795764
They are most likely toys for an advanced civilization that are currently just following a law of preservation.
You guys need to watch Galaxy of Terror, or Sphere too or Interstellar if you believe they were created by humans in the future to help ourselves evolve the civilization.

>>288802441
You can't teach a 3rd grader chemistry. You've gotta wait for her to prove herself first.

>>288802438
>It's just that the long term effects of oxygen exposure outweigh the short term effects of not breathing
A neat quirk of this is that you can spend the rest of your life underwater.

>>288804718
couldn't water also act as an oxidising agent? or at least the oxygen dissolved in the water
that's why iron rusts in water, no?

>>288804977
I would plap.

>>288804609
>But it still feels like a part of me is dying, season 1 came out during the last period of my life where I remember being happy
Fucking hell, season 1 was 2019 before covid

>>288801368
There was better way to do this. Maybe you could explain original prettification with something like Roadside Picnic, but not rest of Why Man actions

>have the source of immortality
>don't use it because it's le dangerous
nah you know what, i completely understand the medusas, we are retarded

>>288802707
Franlky he would had done that.

CHELSEA KILL YOURSELF

>>288803631
Yes, it's a whole new level for him. Nothing could have prepared him for that.

>>288800888
>So I avoided spoilers for years
same. But the final boss was bound to be disappointing, especially when they had just 2 episodes left to wrap it up.

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>Kohaku
>When we return to the orbiter, I want you to jump my bones immediately
>I want to be a withered husk by the time we splash down on earth's surface
WHAT did Whyman mean by this?

so the reveal that the spooky "why?" and "do you wanna die?" messages ended up not really malicious but rather in an asking way why they don't want immortality is one of those reveals of .... eh I get it ... but .... it also kills some cool mysticism.

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THAT'S IT???

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>Oh, we invented a technology
>That means we now have access to the most advanced form of it
Weak. Go to the moon on gunpowder rockets and walk across it in shining armor, or else you've wasted your premise.

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>>288804195

I haven't been following the threads so maybe this has been brought up before, but has the author ever mentioned if the setting was inspired by the book The Last Man Alive? A bright green mist that briefly envelops the earth and petrifies all of humanity except for a bunch of kids feels like too specific a premise to be used twice by coincidence.

Wonder if they'll animate that final kohaku-senku moment scene after the rescue. Man, I really want to see them shack up.

>>288809122
>be whyman
>stupid ningens dont want immortality
>only way to keep your host species alive is to ensure they procreate and pass down their knowledge
>thankfully the first female they made contact with has a supreme childbearing body
>switch to abe-sama protocol

>>288811290
get a new joke you hack

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>>288811314
no

>>288811290
>WE ARE NO LONGER ASKING, SENKU
>BREED THE GORILLA OR WE'RE PETRIFYING THE PLANET AGAIN

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>>288796652
I'm very surprised.
The fact that the medusa was operated vocally in english using human units of measurement made me think it had to be human in origin somehow.
My theory was some kind of genius scientist working for NASA who created these things and a rogue AI to supervise it. With the intention of saving humanity from itself or some external calamity.

>>288798051
>Senku and Taijuu woke up 6 months apart despite vastly different intelligence
Taijuu was placed directly under the nitric acid drip though. Probably sped things up.

How does a girl as dumb as Kohaku becomes an astronaut

>>288811995
This would be a better ending desu

I didn't understand any of this shit
I just want Kohaku sex

This anime really went shit after the treasure island thing

>>288810265
I think the way Japanese copyright works, you can be in deep shit if you cite a specific work as an inspiration like that

>>288811995
>human units of measurement
This got me thinking, how did the people on treasure island know these? Trial and error? I'd get meters, but seconds are something you can only develop if you have invented clocks (and in order for seconds to be the same you need to also arrive at the same conclussion that 24/60/60 is the best compromise when dividing the day)

>>288812795
inherited from their ancestors

>>288812822
That works for meters because you can just grab a stick or a string and go "this is 1M long", it's borderline impossible to do this for seconds

>>288812795
It's in the 100 tales, I ain't gotta explain shit.

For me is people not only calling this disappointing but also coming up with ideas that they think would have been better but they are actually much worse.

>>288813150
go float in space, Medusa.

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How do you make diamond batteries for sentient metal if you're petrified?
How exactly did either side benefit from this arrangement?

>>288813625
japanese manga plot folded 1000 times, please understand.

>>288812864
all they need is an hourglass or a sundial

>>288813625
Build a medusa, petrify yourself, medusa flies off to join the hive, wake up a week later, repeat.

>>288812691
Whether or not a mangaka acknowledges a Western work as an influence is very random. Sometimes they openly talk about how they lifted a given concept and sometimes they will deny the obvious to people's faces. I think Jump/Shueisha is extra cautious about it, more than nip copyright laws require.

>>288813764
That's not immortality, that's just a very prolonged existence of which the vast majority is spent as an immobile statue.

>>288813625
use your brain, dummy.

>>288813789
The "immobile statue" aspect is completely irrelevant from the Medusa's perspective. A "very prolonged existence" is a complete win.

>>288813789
petrification repairs cell damage and can even bring back the dead. watch the fucking anime

>>288813869
>>288813801
>>288813826
If it can't reverse cell damage from the passage of time then it ain't immortality. Learn what words mean.

>>288814130
It can bring back the dead

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I think I like it actually, I mean it kind of makes sense. Both the ayys thinking everyone would go yaay petrification upon breaking out and humanity taking so long to break out on their own was literally just anime misunderstandings at play too. And >>288805026 coincidentally being an antenna was just retarded but funny.

>>288814130
It does give us pseudo immortality, we might even be able to live thousands of years by simply using it once in a while instead of sleeping, as a matter of fact sleeping would be forgotten with this technology, just turn on and off your petrification and you'll be ready to go, imagine having that lost 1/3 of your life to do more shit.

>>288813625
>oh shit this planet emits radio waves like crazy they must be extremely intelligent. They'll understand everything without us telling them what we want, break out from the petrification in 10 seconds, and pump out new diamond batteries for us like candy!
>well fuck

>>288814314
to be fair this was literally the first time it didn't work

>>288793418
It wasn't that much disliked compared to snk or something.
More like it fell flat.

>>288793418
>criticize the government
>get your internet licence revoked

>>288814278
>petrification replaces sleep
>engineers have extra time to think
>petrification technology advances rapidly
>everyone upgrades to the latest iStone
>discarded previous gen have to find another planet to maintain them

>>288814180
Tsukasa was wrong

>>288802198
Xeno also spent those 7years reflecting on what he did. Don’t think he’d be so eager if he woke up right away.

I love retards complaining about shit that was literally explained in the fucking episode.

>>288815683
Some properties were even explained on the first episode of the entire series and people are still confused...

>>288812864
If you have a meter-length pendulum (well, 0.994 m, but close enough), it'll swing with a period of one second. It's one of the early definitions of the second, though not a very good one.

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>>288814896
I don't agree. It's pretty clear at the moment of petrification that Xeno gets on board with Senku's ambition.

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>>288812795
Forget the units of measurement. How did they know all the actual English number names?
>There was a tale in the 100 Tales where they just counted in English
Well, whatever.
>Also mentioned minutes.

Seriously, they never did mention who was supposed to be the "priestess" figure of Treasure Island who preserved the tales there.
At times it seemed like it might have been Kirisame, but maybe it was someone we never saw.

>>288816845
The priestess should be Soyuz's mom, right? Based on the way Ibara changed things once he seized power, Treasure Island probably was on track to lose its oral history completely.

>>288816074
He is somebody who can take L

>>288811314
if you keep calling a girl a lioness it's just gonna make me think of all the litters she should be having.

>>288817236
Treasure Island was like a year away from eliminating the age of consent... So yeah Senku and co. came in the right time.

>>288816845
I think the storykeeper was the male chief (i.e. Soyuz's dad)

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>>288804990
Kohaku was very cute here.

>>288813105
How? With feet and inches you can make a story about measuring shit with your feet and thumbs, but meter long objects are rare in nature, a quick search about meter long things gives
>Guitar, baseball bat, golf club
Man-made objects
>Medium to large dog, penguin
Dogs are inconsistent, also they have neither animal within reasonable distance
>3-4 year old child
Inconsistent
>Adult step length
Probably the best candidate, it's why imperial has yards
>Old trees
Inconsistent
>Branch
Inconsistent

Also I just realized it'd be really funny if Byakuya went "this is the meter stick, it's one meter", then some motherfucker broke it by accident and now they had to change the definition of a meter

>>288791506
Petrification cures DEATH. If you have unfettered access to it then you're immortal without being permastoned.
A sufficiently intelligent species would have broken out of petrification quickly enough that their infrastructure wouldn't have crumbled and they'd quickly learn to harness the medusa's power while also maintaining and replicating them.
Humanity just wasn't smart enough.

>>288814504
Why do they even need humans if they already had other races who bought into the deal?

>>288823000
Why do humans explore new lands? Why does any individual work so hard to raise a family when there are 8 billion of us? It's in the nature of all life forms to reproduce, Whyman literally says it in the episode. The more host species the better.

Bump

>>288823000
They're diversifying to increase their survival.

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If stitchanon is here, could you catbox the full res. version of pic related?

>>288825967
https://archive.palanq.win/w/thread/2238044/#2269296
Foolishly I deleted the full res one from my computer
This is higher res but it's still only 961p rather than 1080p

I wonder if the Why-mans became smarter over time
They talked about the Treasure Island incident as if they didn't know at the time the precise details, but now they do because they did an inquiry and spent 100 years deducing the fact of the matter

>>288812795
we saw in the episode. when the medusas fell, they broadcast noises that they heard and repeated. the people repeating them didn't necessarily know what "one meter one second" meant, but when they repeated them out loud the result was demonstrative. It wouldn't take much trial and error to figure out

>>288827024
Presumably the Medusa on the island was able to communicate to other medusas what it was 'seeing'

>>288827532
>Euro = MC^2